Dodge Knew the Demon 170 Engine Was Failing & STILL Released It?

[@sleeeper88]

The balancer torque on these is extremely critical, it is a stretch bolt. The.engine is a great design and very durable. I have a feeling this is sabotage.

[@judgegixxer]

Cleetus blew up his $30000 Hellefant crate motor out on the dunes. Didn’t last very long.

[@pharoahmonk50]

Butter, do yourself a favor. Sell your Demon 170. Its reputation should convince you it is not worth keeping the vehicle.

[@voodoodiecast]

He’s keeping it. Mopar or no car is in his dna. Until maybe he can get a ZR1.

[@pharoahmonk50]

@@voodoodiecast I agree. I would LOVE to see a ZR1 on this channel. Or even a fully optioned out Redeye Widebody. The Demon 170 is simply too much of a one trick pony.

[@DaleKnepshield]

Butter You’re one of the only contacts that actually tells us what’s going on. I for one Appreciate You and thank You for digging into this and letting us know. Basically if not for you, TK and Racer X we really wouldn’t know anything. Thanks Again…

[@ImmuneHaddock]

How was the 2018 demon built way better?

[@allenwaddle5130]

Cleet recently blew up his so it's legit

[@adamg3911]

Great content

[@TKsGarage]

Facts you’ve been putting work in saving people

[@0P0M0]

I thought Raiti's rides said this was fake news lol

[@covingtonpaul94]

Also, maybe they rushed these from the factory. Stellantis doesn’t give af about Dodge. Why is it that I have a 2006 SRT8 with 170k trouble free miles but yet you spend $140-150k on a demon 170 and this???

[@user-tu1ee6dc5f]

Give me a 2018 demon.

[@JLocauto]

How much would you pay?

[@giuseppefondati9647]

DO not let them get to you Butter !!!!!!

[@shovel_head80]

Boat anchor

[@drfaticus]

And it's a big piece of JUNK

[@bullittboost6046]

Looking at the photos. Balancer doesn’t looked like it has a key way slot. Looks like it’s spinning on the crank and walking up/ rubbing on front cover. The cranks are seizing up and breaking balancer. That’s just from the photos.

[@pro5.019]

None of the Hellcat engines had a keyway. The balancer has a press fit. There isn't any metal transfer on the snout of the crank that would indicate it spun. I think the bolts that hold the balancer together are coming loose and driving into the timing cover. The question is, did they come loose from harmonics, or were they left loose during assemble. If Red Loctite was applied to those bolts, the problem would be solved.

[@bullittboost6046]

@ Very Possible. Personally when I build high horsepower and Supercharged, I prefer a keyed or double keyed balancer. Just my choice.

[@pro5.019]

@@bullittboost6046 Agreed that the crank snout should have a keyway. I believe Dodge's theory is that it weakens the crank snout. With almost 22 psi of boost that is asking a lot from a press fit, especially when it takes upwards of 125 hp to turn that supercharger.

[@judgehastheword9069]

I have built motors and drag raced for 10 years. i am not talking building 300 hp to 500 hp I am talking I built 1000 hp to 2000 hp motor blown injection motors. I never had a motor blow up. I believe it is the builders that cause the motors not holding up. And bad design of the motor. And I believe it is owners fault. Owners are driving these cars like they are full out race car and there not. One thing that hurt the motors are the cars weigh to much. That motor trying to perform like a 100% race car and with the weight of these cars is putting to much stress on parts and they can't hold up to it. You can believe me are not I don't care. This is just how I feel what is causing them not holding up. I wonder how many owners have changed the upper pulley on the superchargers to a smaller on to make more boost that will put a lot of stress on the harmonic balancer . I bet is they are doing that they put the stock one back on before they take it back to the dealer.

[@voodoodiecast]

Good points there. It’s safe to say the demon149 is a lemon. Poorly built, not well engineered but motards still think it’s an “engineering marvel” lol

[@perryalexander5868]

That's why I'll build myself a Demon 170 using direct connection parts... it's a design flaw in the Demon 170 engine problems. Rush productions, poor quality control is a recipe for disaster.

[@jgmullins1]

Absolutely no clue how these cars are still bringing 20-30K over MSRP on the auction sites. I get it that some of the owners that drive them (how many are actually driven - very few it seems) have no problems. Good for them. It's obviously a significant percentage that are failing. Why would someone pay this much just to roll the dice on a car that tops out at 149 MPH. Don't get it. Much rather have a 2018 Demon, Redeye, Z06, Blackwing, or GT 500. The 170 is a one dimensional car and it seems to have a high failure rate just doing that one thing. And to add inslult to injury, Dodge will likely be gone within 2 years - possibly sooner. If not for Butter nobody would have ever mentioned an issue with this car. Keep up the good work.

[@erickbernard8208]

How many demon 170 engine failures in total are there?

[@voodoodiecast]

170 😂

[@butleroferic1135]

Not really feeling the direction dodge is headed in. Should I trade my widebody 392 challenger for a CT4-V Blackwing or a GR Supra 🤔?

[@ex.spaceshuttle.worker]

Maybe I missed it during this video. But did this demon 170 engine failure happen during drag racing on a drag strip or just happened during a normal Drive?

[@covingtonpaul94]

I think people aren’t allowing these engines to break in.

[@user-tu1ee6dc5f]

Could be part of the problem.

[@ex.spaceshuttle.worker]

If anyone has followed Racer X he has a demon 170 and he said he was very careful to broke it in properly. And his engine failed after a few times at the drag strip. So it may or may not have anything to do with not properly breaking in the engine. More data needs to be compiled

[@voodoodiecast]

The car is just not well engineered. MoparX has done the break in on his lemon149 but the engine failed. Now on his 2nd engine he still hasn’t done racing because the car or motor isn’t doing it’s thing.

[@StevenMortimer-o1t]

I wonder if it’s a keyed crank for the balancer and not keyless Even if it was over torqued it wouldn’t do that Could also me bad bearing and seals or just cheap parts as they have been using To make that much power you need good quality parts

[@julianscott8420]

It's got to be because it's was rushed to get on the street. Not happening to the hellcat/redeye or demon. They could've took there time with the 170. There's nothing else coming out .

[@StevenMortimer-o1t]

I wonder if it’s a keyed crank for the balancer and not keyless Even if it was over torqued it wouldn’t do that Could also me bad bearing and seals or just cheap parts as they have been using

[@curtiscovington1403]

Can you put 100 octane in a hellcat

[@fragginyou]

I'm still stuck on how these were Dyno'd and no issue raised its head. Still don't believe they were becuase simple things like plug gap should show up

[@killerta87]

Stellantis is making its employees look so bad, i feel bad honestly for them. Management keeps pushing junk out.....i mean if a demon170 is junk, what would their cheap cars be like?

[@voodoodiecast]

Disposable I guess

[@michaeljohnson4947]

Carlos Tevaraz want's to discredit gas burning engines. Maybe the reliability problems, are on purpose.

[@fulcrumsee5968]

If i was the people in the factory knowing I'm about to be laid off because of dumb corporate decisions, I would literally be going there to collect a check. A whole cylinder could be missing and I wouldn't give two phucks. I would send it on down the line. I'm willing to bet this is what exactly is happening.

[@drdetroitwheels]

Dog needs to get their act together and I think they will after what happened in the last few days

[@giuseppefondati9647]

File a BBB complaint!!!

[@TyZo6]

If the engine was reliable I would be buying a demon 170 instead of a c8z.

[@717Chris]

Facts! Ignorant ppl dont like them.

[@patricksquires77]

28% of current Demon owners watched this video & 37% of future demon owners find this find this channel…. These stats are made up 😅 but they are why companies need to change how they operate.

[@jeffreyschweiger7960]

GM, FORD , DODGE their all having problems with their new engines. I'll stick with my old guns. They use a device called a pully pusher which is hydraulic/pneumatic pistol gun that attaches to the pully and has a small computer on it now. If that pully pusher isn't working properly , leaking oil, software problem etc... it will fail. I worked for a company that built them and they ALWAYS had problems with them and still do to this day. Those pully pushers are a pain in the @$$.

[@MarkCameo]

Dodge is turning into crap my my my my my

[@scatspeed3114]

Sabotage

[@user-tu1ee6dc5f]

I think they knew they were tanking the company so it didnt matter. They said build them and f it. I would just be like throw a redeye in it f it.

[@DOUGMAC]

Those German CNC GROBS are no longer machining. These blacks cranks heads that’s your real reason.

[@luisem214]

This is why I only buy Ferraris.

[@BBscat2020]

You really look disappointing of this car

[@jeffbrown8974]

No you're the king of bashing Mopar

[@jermaineogarro2124]

How is that??

[@SoFukinDope24]

You spelled, 'just stating facts' wrong

[@voodoodiecast]

Bro he is a mopar guy through and through. And even with all this, he’s still keeping his demon149/lemon170. Hes stating facts.

[@JamesStover-gr3hw]

Dose doesn’t have to fix the failures. All they have to do is stall every owner until “ the big event” of 2025. You’ll know what I’m talking about when it happens. If you’re still alive that is.

[@ryotaryuu]

The only thing happening to Dodge in 2025 is bankruptcy

[@LastCallDemon170]

Whats the Big event of 2025?

[@ryotaryuu]

The only big even happening for Dodge is BANKRUPTCY