Does AMD's Best Desktop APU Still Have a Place in 2023?

[@hi_its_jerry]

recently built a pc with a 4600G, and honestly these Ryzen APUs surprise me a lot. coming from an older intel iGPU where i would have to run anything at 800x600, seeing my games running at 720p with decent graphics is honestly a nice change. im quite happy with it

[@ZackBrooksjoeseph]

Bro I understand your pain.

[@BertieJasokie]

Perspective is Important, while I'm envying the guy upgrading to a 4090 from his 3080, some Gamers in the poorest countries are still running P4's and 8200GS GPU's. And I'm grateful I can buy a 1650 which cost the median monthly income in my country.

[@silents4ever]

​@@BertieJasokie Meanwhile I don't even have a PC and parents can only afford a low budget pentium APU PC

[@BertieJasokie]

@@silents4everTry upgrading it on the cheap and enjoy your foray into the PC world. We are an economically diverse group of people. Maximize and enjoy what you got.

[@silents4ever]

@@BertieJasokieAs I mentioned, I don't have a PC at all, just a laptop with a Celeron n3350 and 4GB LPDDR3 ram.

[@Joske_]

I'm always amazed at how well 5600G and 5700G can run new games despite only having Vega graphics. One of these with RDNA3 graphics would be insane. I know they exist in the laptop space (with the 7040 Phoenix APU series) but, I want a desktop one so bad. If they ever release a 7600G, after AM5 motherboard and DDR5 prices have dropped a bit, this would be the ultimate budget gaming machine.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

Yeah but this time they should provide an option with more powerful graphics with 16 or 24 CUs of RDNA2/3 and more cache so that we can finally get rid of expensive "budget" options.

[@tobiwonkanogy2975]

the full 11 compute units helps over the smaller apus . its about as good as a 1050 . very solid for built in solution compared to old intel as stated. the choice in ram is more important as well. generally as fast as possible for the chip with lowest CAS . will get the best access times with 4 sticks vs 2 . minor improvement to fps and much better 1% lows. i was testing on 3200 g albeit.

[@AlbionChastity]

weren't all 7000 series have RDNA2 iGPU?

[@airmicrobe]

Right and the board company would not sell it with cheap price. X86 SBC already out. It seems to be a premium industrial product and no point in pricewise

[@RANDOMNATION907]

I'm sure it'll just be a matter of time before some Chinese company starts selling desktop MoBo's with them soldered on. There are plenty of 11th Gen Laptop i7 CPU powered Intel boards out there now, with fairly recent Intel UHD graphics, and they sell well.

[@kentaronagame7529]

Homeboy sat the 5700G facing pins down on concrete. Legit sent a shiver down my spine. 😂

[@dennistomsen5822]

Noticed that too. Yee-haa bent pins 😂

[@slaydog5102]

Those pins are more durable than we think

[@mystiika]

I like that you're including the KCD benchmarks! The game is really a masterpiece, but it can be really demanding at times

[@ScavengerFX]

I built a couple of office computers using the 5600g for a client and it works wonderfully. They were out of the 4600g, but the 5600g was only $20 more.

[@Freddie1980]

Can't wait to see what the Zen 4 APU's bring to the table with RDNA 3 graphics.

[@philipreininger2549]

Really enjoy the testing all throughout the hardware stack, from old gpus, to apus and even new power houses. Ofc it's not that in depth like a HUB or GamersNexus, but equally enjoyable. The only thing I really would like to mention is while some of these new titles are not very well optimized for sure, newer games just NEED more hardware, because they clearly want to portray better visuals. Heard several developers say in podcasts and interviews that there is just so much optimization you can do to fit new visuals and high fidelity scenes into "smaller" VRAM and Ram buffers.

[@Jasontvnd9]

The problem is in alot of cases the game doesn't look any better. The last of us looks like BF4 whilst using 4 - 5 times the vram buffer.

[@philipreininger2549]

@@Jasontvnd9 kind of true. With the last of us being an example of a bad port I totally agree with u. But if you look at Hogwarts legacy, the game is averagely ported and looks amazing imo. But with it’s console first approach it can quickly eat up a lot of memory. Cyberpunk also is quite intensive, but at least gives us unseen raytracing effects etc. so I guess most of the time you do get nice visuals, but pcs just have too much latency issues communicating between ram, gpu, cpu and ssd. The entire data shuffling on console is done extremely well and since they only got 1 or 2 hardware configurations everything can be fine tuned. Pc gaming is basically just brutforcing everything with 3x the performance for a 1.5x better result. Maybe I’m going of track a little, the thing I basically wanted to say, not EVERY new game is badly optimized (some are), BUT almost every new game will be more and more hardware intensive 😂

[@Jasontvnd9]

@philipreininger2549 I wouldn't even say hogwarts looks that great , Compare it to a game like Horizon : Zero Dawn and it looks worse. Cyberpunk is different , It looks better on a mid range pc using say a 3060ti than it does on console , Largely due to the consoles weak RT performance. The problem is optimization , They will rush out a console port on pc because they know most of the player base can brute force it , Not ideal but unfortunately probably going forward will become much more common.

[@SabretoothBarnacle]

I remember when we all got excited over 8FPS on Formula One Grand Prix on the Amiga😅 20fps was the thing of dreams back in those days😊

[@eurocrusader1724]

Hey m8 , i had both, Amiga 500 with trapdoor ram expansion, and Atari 1040 STe and STfm. Those were simpler times when gameplay still ruled and you needed skill. Savegames were a rarity back then. Until i had a 60 meg hdd i remember the disk swapping. Todays "gamers " would not even have the patience 🤣😂. But the sound of a 720kb double sided 3,5 floppy was always music to my ears.

[@kajurn791]

680m kind of changed the igpu landscape massively. It's tough to justify a 5700G only build when you can buy a 6800u miniPC for a similar price or get an used RX 580 which will be a massive improvement. And because of the lower amount of l3 cache and very high price relative to other options it's a questionable CPU for dGPU builds.

[@nexxusty]

For high end dGPU builds, yeah.

[@lazycarper]

6800u miniPC have you got a link to what you suggest

[@HackerL96]

A good APU. I still use it in my main rig. (portable and at home I plug in my RTX3060). I am waiting for the 7700G to get rid of the RTX card.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Nice :) The 7700G would be so cool right now

[@zaidlacksalastname4905]

Doubt the 7700g would be better than a 3060. 3050 perf would be a nice surprise though.

[@HackerL96]

@@zaidlacksalastname4905 I don´t think so, too but I don´t need the power of an 3060. I guess it will perform like the 780M. It sould beat an GTX1650.

[@milo8425]

LOVE this chip for so many builds still. Can't wait for its successor.

[@Beisepimp]

APU's are always interesting, i really hope that AMD is releasing a new one soon! 🙂

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Same here :)

[@mauricionunez1852]

Currently running 2 systems with 5700Gs on them, one being my main workstation paired with a RX 6700XT, I bought it due to it being the cheapest Zen 3 8-core chip available here (200$ less than 5700X) since I require more multithreaded performance rather than single. And the other system being my home server, which, what can I say, absolutely rocks. No complaints at all, amazing chip.

[@brucieplays3720]

How is gaming?

[@mauricionunez1852]

@@brucieplays3720 buttery smooth

[@errettfitchett2463]

Could you find a popular indie game to test these low-power igpus? valhiem or factorio perhaps? Where an igpu like this really shines in my opinion, is in emulation of Wii era or earlier titles. I think that would give a more broad overview of the performance.

[@rdj0981]

Just built a 5700g system for my school pc, with some light gaming while taking study breaks. It will also double as my HTPC system when I am not taking courses. Love it, thank you so much for all the hard work you put into these fantastic videos. I'm an older gamer/builder, and I love seeing how older hardware holds up, or flops in current gen titles.

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

It oddly does seem to benefit from ReBar and 4G, though obviously 300 and A Series boards are best avoided for that, even if ASRock did put it onto the A320M board that just wasn't that stable with it on.

[@FroggyTWrite]

really looking forward to seeing what the desktop RDNA3 APUs with DDR5 will be able to do!

[@Katan4v]

I built my first PC last April 16 with a 4600g and a 5600xt. Was planning on only the APU first then add GPU later but the 5600xt was on sale at $120 a week after I got my CPU. The GPU is from 51Risc, I heard of the brand from the Toasty Bros. I'm enjoying it very much. Since I never experienced gaming with high graphics games before coz we couldn't afford a good PC or console.

[@roqeyt3566]

I bought one of these for a CPU with an IGPU and very low power consumption I generally have two or three monitors active at all times, so not needing to use my GPU for rendering KZbin and other secondary stuff really helps. Together with my rx 6400, my total system draw rarely exceeds 60w

[@MarkOffski]

I used my 5700g for many months in a SFF build, it performed brilliantly, with some light gaming, but mainly as the driver in an Audio/Video workstation, During which it handled very large Audio samples and Video files with ease and did not skip a beat. However now it is in a Mini ITX build to which i've added an RTX 2060, and a Samsung 1440p gaming monitor and it performs equally well, but ultimately i intend to pair the 5700g with an AMD 6700xt or similar AMD 6000 series as i've seen that you can utilise both the Radeon in built graphics, and the GPU's graphics to work in tandem, so in effect dual graphics similar to the old "crossfire" system. I dont know if you have considered testing that?, but it might be an idea for a video as it seems it isn't that difficult to do.

[@nouraelamri-kw7se]

So no need to disable igpu ? Igain more performance with both ?

[@druidobianco9734]

How can you use both igpu and discrete in tandem? I have a 5700g and lately upgraded my mini itx with a 6600xt, i’m very interested in using the combo to it’s max potential

[@MarkOffski]

@@druidobianco9734 If you search AMD Dual graphics setup in you tube it will give you a few instructional videos, there are several things you need to do in order to get it to work from what i've seen, one is enabling resizable bar and above 4g decoding in the bios, and basically both the Radeon and your discrete GPU will show up in device manager if done correctly. In one of the examples i saw, the guy was using the APU graphics to stream and his GPU to game, and apparently you can also use an Nvidia GPU in tandem also, but not sure how that works as the examples i've seen just show AMD.

[@MarkOffski]

@@nouraelamri-kw7se Yes Noura apparently so.

[@grahamleiper1538]

Recently upgraded from R5 2600 to this. Figure I timed it right as was a good price - £162 (less than I paid for the 2600 a few years back). 5700G made sense for potential future uses of the motherboard and I'm happy enough not on the bleeding edge.

[@brucieplays3720]

Im looking to upgrade from R5 2600 (starting to show its age) to go with my RX 6600

[@666_lucifer_morningstar]

When we chose the parts for my fathers new PC, we decided on the then new 2200G and that thing was already mindblowing for me! I was only used to a 6 year older intel iGPU in an laptop i3 and the difference was night and day. Now with the RDNA3 APUs on the horizon, AMD really bridged the gap between gaming only and office only PCs

[@Carnyzzle]

I'm glad that Ultra Performance on FSR 2 doesn't look like you smeared vaseline on your monitor anymore lol

[@pauld4564]

Thanks for the video! I have one of these in my HP Omen system, it is a bit of an odd pairing with the 3070ti it came with but it was very cheap! I've been really impressed with it, no issues with the games I play. If I ever upgrade I'm planning on keeping the 5700g to use in a micro pc build for some retro gaming 😁

[@larchego4938]

I'm glad to see kingdom come: deliverance used again, it's one of my favorites to play and can be very resource intensive with the right settings

[@RandomGaminginHD]

It’s an incredible game

[@johnsnider3400]

Built my wife a computer with this chip and I tried a few of my games on it. Was pleasantly surprised at how well it played my (still) main game of Fallout 76. Also have a server running a 5600g and it is fantastic for recording videos via Playon and serving out Plex (hardware transcoding).

[@MidlandsbusEnthusiast]

I'm running that exact R7 5700G in my rig, paired with a RTX 3070 TI. It's a great chip👍👍

[@aydenchapman1365]

I recently got a whole system with this chip, a b450 mobo, 512gig 970evo ssd, 32 gigs 3200mhz ram, a case, and 600w psu for $350 on craigslist. So far it has been a pretty spanking deal with the 1070 I got for free from a friend when it broke and I fixed it! I got my chip to OC to about 4.625 Ghz at stock voltages so it has been a substantial chip, I beat a lot of 11th gen intel offerings in benchmarks. I am looking to upgrade my GPU now and am sorta perusing for a good deal on a 6700xt or 6800.

[@rnac5438]

b450s still support AMD 5000 series?

[@aydenchapman1365]

@@rnac5438 yeah man! You can even plop a 5800x3D in them! Thats my upgrade path once people start throwing those away in a generation or two. Just make sure that on the board manufacturers website there is a BIOS that supports the chip you want to put in. Most boards do have support for basically all chips, but lesser known board brands or cheaper boards might not. I even have a buddy with a 5950X he fixed some pins on off of ebay that he has in an A320 board!

[@midnighteclipsed2738]

​@@rnac5438 even some A320 can run em need, need bios and some gamble thou

[@HalfOgre0520]

I paired one of these with an AMD RX 6600XT. Perfect pairing IMHO!

[@Heldermaior]

There is another use for these. Emulation machine. You can emulate PS3 and XBox 360 in these things. Plus Wii U and Switch. Just OC the CPU as far as it goes and underclock the GPU to give you more headroom on the CPU and you are good to go.

[@thepcenthusiastchannel2300]

This is a great CPU for pfsense if you have a 10Gbps internet connection like I do. The iGPU means no need for a discrete GPU so you can go Mini-ITX and use the PCIe x16 3.0 slot for a Dual 10Gbps NIC. I used the ASUS TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS WiFi II motherboard (mATX) and got its 2.5Gbps Realtek NIC to work with PFsense for my Wifi 6E AP. I have two separate Dual 10GBps NICS in the PCIe slots on the TUF board. So that's 4x 10Gbps ports and 1x 2.5Gbps. The Ryzen 7 5700G's 16 threads and 8 cores handle routing at 10Gbps quite nicely especially with all of the security apps I have running on my box. It also handles the AES-NI VPN acceleration for my OpenVPN server running in pfsense. All in all, a really great CPU for that task. It's power usage is also quite low when you're not using the GPU. Around 60-75W at full CPU load. Believe it or not, that's actually quite good for a Firewall of that calibre.

[@bcalle1grg2t5]

I was just thinking of this apu!. Thank you for doing this review!

[@justffff]

performance difference between forza and spiderman is insane

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah it’s all about the optimisation

[@robertt9342]

I thought that Spider-Man was adequately optimized where Forza was well optimized but also less demanding.

[@4skintim962]

Forza 5 is the best port I have ever seen tbh.

[@zaidlacksalastname4905]

Spiderman is very well optimized. Forza is less demanding though

[@Sabihabano-qj9fz]

Spiderman isn't that demanding

[@Nagizak1]

Can't wait for the future apu where they will be on par with midrange gpus.

[@oldfartgaming148]

Hd 680 integrated graphics are close.

[@bulletpunch9317]

@@oldfartgaming148 close to what, 1050ti?

[@kakhak]

I awaited for it since April 2021. It was avaulae at retail 5th of August. I bought it 6th of August. This CPU is insanely brilliant.

[@micahottaway8455]

I have a Ryzen 7 5700U in my laptop, and it does well in the use case you describe for gaming on the 5700G without a discrete GPU.

[@Mandroid1v]

Not having pcix gen 4 was a detail I did not know about. You saved me from going down this route.

[@lepyti]

Watching these videos about low-end/old hardware is somehow more enjoyable than watching videos about the absolute best hardware. I have been using my Rtx 3080, I7 10700kf and 32gb ram pc for about 2 years now. Its my first ever pc btw. So I dont even have a low-end pc.

[@jeffjefferson7384]

Absolutely yes. Good for making a tiny PC, and with the current insane prices of GFX cards they might be the best value possible.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah perfect use for one :)

[@ZaGoudou]

Why would you set AA to high instead of increasing detail in Elden Ring? Anyway great channel 👍

[@aara-tg7kc]

I really like the inclusion of kingdom come deliverance again, very super benchmark imo since it doesn't have dlss and can measure non upscaled rasterization performance

[@stephanhart9941]

It will be nice to get the Zen4 APUs.

[@fabrb26]

Since normal zen4 cpu now have graphics core it may never happen.

[@Carnyzzle]

@@fabrb26 The Zen 4 graphics are just for display out and not for gaming, AMD would be stupid if they didn't release G model APUs

[@stephanhart9941]

@@fabrb26 2 CU's ain't doin nothin! Maybe half life or ps2 emulation.

[@riven4121]

@@fabrb26 It probably will. The graphics cores in the current Zen 4 chips are for troubleshooting and office PCs to run without external graphics, not for gaming. AMD will probably port over Phoenix to desktop in the future. Based on the Techpowerup approximate relative performance chart, the 780M in Phoenix should be around a 1650 or RX 470 in performance.

[@zaidlacksalastname4905]

This would probably be an emulation beast. Edit: It is. There's a good ETA prime video on it. Can basically run anything, including switch, cemu, and PS3

[@jerryhernandez96]

Ordered a 4600g for a new build and received a 5700g, great upgrade from my fx 6300, might pair it with my old radeon hd 7950

[@Play3rID]

Great vid so far man! I got no clue why I still watch videos such as this whole rocking a 3060ti though…

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Great card :)

[@toddhermit]

I have a 3060 Ti too, and have stopped watching most tech channels. RGinHD is different though, I enjoy the low spec content

[@R3TR0J4N]

this was an informative vidoe, when it comes to budget builders and their worries when it comes to how much can an APU round up in today's titles.

[@joshj88]

I like that the 5700g is an option. i refuse to build aq system without a fallback gpu...

[@Turbo614]

I just built a pc with one of these and 32gb ram and a 2070ti. shes a happy pc

[@shivay9]

hello brother nice vid 👍👍🍻🍻

[@kwerboom]

The thing I'm waiting for is the AM5 APUs to be released. AMD has some interesting mobile processors with Zen3+/RDNA2 and Zen4/RDNA3 that would really make for interesting builds.

[@shakkaka12435924]

Man you have to overclock that IGU, i have mine running at 2400Mhz with some DDR4 4000 CL16 and man this thing is really good

[@manuelhernandez2017]

Nice, if I have to use an APU, LAPTOP or otherwise, 900p is a great resolution for performance on these integrated graphics

[@hashbrownz1999]

There are some AM4 motherboards that have 3 display outs, so this and the 5600G make for fantastic options when the build demands 3 monitors, low power, and an even lower profile.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah good point

[@MrRrosi]

Still use it without gpu. Such a strong Apu. When i will get gpu it will still blow rocks with its 16threads

[@martingolding4951]

Using a 7th gen here since 2019, and still going strong

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

I was in the US a year and a half ago, got the 5600G and 32GB of 3600 memory for $200, later on added a 2TB NVME drive for £80 and found a B450M board for a bargain £30 as the A320M board wasn't stable enough for the 5000 series. Not really seeing why I would want to upgrade to AM5, or pay a fortune for the latest AAA titles, though I may invest in Cyberpunk in the future if it's really cheap, or free. This is fast enough, you only need faster if you are in production where time is money

[@Ferzin400]

Just yesterday i upgraded my friends pc's graphics from the 5700g integrated to a used rx 5700xt. He is more than happy with the upgrade😊

[@fatbeard8072]

I just got in the mail this exact CPU....I love it. Even though I have my own GPU for my PC, the CPU is an APU, just in case my GPU fails or something. I hate not having a non APU. The only thing is not PCIE 4.0....not a big big deal for me since all my stuff is older. Except my Motherboard has 4.0 for upgrading later on if needed. I like the core and thread counts with it as well and being a base clock at 3.8 is decent for me. My previous was an AM3+ build with 6 cores and 6 threads. Now that was bottle necking for just normal day to day stuff.

[@andrewmutavi590]

I think with a 32 gig 4000mhz CL16 ram ram kit n the igpu over locked,this 5700G could really really keep u clutch,also supper exited for the 680m

[@capsulate8642]

I bought a 5700g at launch, then returned it just in time to buy one at Microcenter for $300 a month later. For that, it held up as an alternative to paying over $130 for a GT 1030 or something similar until prices crashed and I got a 1070 for $75. Now, the CPU is great and the iGPU runs one my CRT monitor and handles most basic apps handily. Even ignoring the iGPU, there's not really a competitive 8-core for the $150 that you can buy one for, so the only real sticking point is the PCIE 3.0 limitation.

[@7sj3Ax]

I just build PC with this chip (5700G), 32GB ram and samsung 980 nvme ssd, for 3D and CAD work. It is great budget 4k work horse.

[@beefnoodles95]

man the 5600g i have thts stuff in a itx inwin case impresses me so much with how many games can run decently on. i remember back in like 2007 having a dell home pc and barely any games tht could run on that thing and i was just grateful i could run anything at all like runescape lol.

[@nadir4562]

i am still having alot of fun with my Ryzen 5 5600g. CSGO / GTAV / CyberPunk2077 /Dying Light/Dead By Daylight/Dark Souls 3... All run well

[@nadir4562]

@El Cactuar ?

[@trexxtechs2857]

These apus are best, but they only make sense if you build them with no dedicated gpus, cuz in their price you will get much better processors I was getting 5600g for about $25 cheaper than 5600 but still i went for 5600 cuz of pcie 4.0, better clock speeds and all Building a igpu gaming pc with 5700g makes no sense ( at least where i live ) You can easily get a pc with ryzen 5 5500 and rx 6400 with some extra few bucks ( if you really opt for gaming, but you can also get 12100f; even better. ) The 5700g would make sense only when it's use for multitasking and office work which needs some photoshop and casual video editing

[@jeanbrouwers]

I kinda miss some benchmarks with like a RTX 3070 to see what the CPU performance is like with the higher end cards.

[@thepcenthusiastchannel2300]

RTX 3070 should now be considered a mid tier card if that due to it's 8GB VRAM limit.

[@_baniraaisu6711]

The G series Ryzen was our saviour during crypto bubble until it burst like 6 months ago lmao.

[@RANDOMNATION907]

I'm torn. I have a nice and capable B450 mobo and a 2600X. I really want the Zen3 8-cores. Zen3 is, of course, a massive upgrade over Zen+. I'm not a serious gamer so, PCIe gen is not of great importance to me. *_BUT!!_* . . if I get a 5700X, I know my mind won't rest until I get a PCIe 4.0 mobo. If I get a 5700G, I know I won't bother to upgrade my mobo. I'd just wait til Zen5 comes out and see where things stand. If I get the 5700X and a 500 series chipset mobo . . . then maybe I should just get onto AM5 now. Decisions decisions. Thanks for the 'timely' revisit.

[@jantube358]

This is just my topic! In my opinion these APUs are so underrated! Some people were paying huge amounts of money for a 3060 during the GPU shortage just to play games like Valorant. The Radeon Vega cores used in the 5000G APUs are very outdated. AMD could make a 7600G with the power of an XBOX and a huge 3D-Cache to make up RAM speed. That should be cheaper than a CPU+GPU combo and resistant to the current VRAM problems. But they also want to sell consoles. I like the garden recordings again.

[@laowai2000]

Suppose one benefit is if you have integrated graphics and also run a GPU, if GPU craps out you still have this as a back up.

[@Mechenzo440]

Fsr really is a game changer for older gpus/ amd/intel gpus

[@denvera1g1]

If you can get a good kit of bdye for ~$90 the GPU really flies at 4600C16-16-16-28, any higher and the GPU doesnt like to run slower than the IMC/FCLK and it needs to be disabled. The downside is that with these cheap and easy kits, you're limited to 16GB and generally need an ITX board to hit these high speeds and low timings

[@denvera1g1]

Of note, you can get a 32GB kit of bdye from HP and it can get to 4400C19, but it requires active cooling, the patriot viper 4400C19 kits can get to 5000 without active cooling on all 6 kits i have.

[@AW28]

The 3xxxG, 4xxxG, and 5xxxG's where great starts for a build. I've got 2 systems built during the coof times. One eventually got a GPU when available and games well. The other got the 5700G as an upgrade and serves home theater duty.

[@dd22koopaesverde58]

na the 3xxxg was ok but not great i hope they release the 7600g and 7700g whit the rx 660m and 680m apu

[@kasimirdenhertog3516]

Power consumption is the 5700G’s redeeming feature. The APUs feature a monolithic design for the die vs. the chiplet design for non-APUs. In low load scenarios this means a night and day difference between a 5600X and 5700G. If you are in any way power or thermally constrained, the 5700G is a better choice than the 5600X.

[@jakobe_bryantgaming5580]

5700g's are going for like $130 for me atm. I helped my friend overclock one by abt 25% and it gets comparable performance to a 5800X, pretty solid

[@kevinrichards1666]

Any advice on overclocking for a semi-noob?

[@jakobe_bryantgaming5580]

@@kevinrichards1666 disable c states, turn on PB02, set watt and current limits to 200, boost override to 200 MHz, and try -30 on percore curve optimizer

[@UncannySense]

Sold all my GPUs during peak crypto along with a 3600 CPU and got a 5700g...played all my classic,retro,indie, emulation games fine and sipped power doing it...lost interest in modern games and haven't found a reason to buy a new GPU yet in today's GPU market.

[@MegaManNeo]

My current rig has a 5600G on a X570 and is paired with a 5700 Pulse. As weird as this may sound, said X570 is the AsRock Gaming-ITX which actually has Thunderbolt 3 and thus comes in handy to me as a VR player who likes to keep his Quest charged. I probably could still replace the 5600G with a 5800X3D but the APU/GPU combo works fine for me on 1080p. Plus I hate e-waste, so I wouldn't put it anywhere.

[@svpracer98]

My laptop has a 5700h and my desktop has a 5700x, both with RTX 3000 series cards... Coming from older i7 based systems, I cannot believe the power both CPUs pack.

[@TheGameBench]

GPU shortage? We don't have a shortage, we have GPU manufacturers intentionally limiting supply to keep prices high.

[@duladrop4252]

I am just praying that one day they will have an APU sort of like MI300 instinct, be available for us gamers to save space on our CASE and just invest those cool Liquid cooler on the motherboard...

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

I'd actually say the 5600G was the saviour, because of the architecture structure 6 cores is more clockable, plus it was $50 cheaper anyway.

[@Kubose]

Thinking back to when I was a kid playing games on the family Compaq desktop with like 32mb of ram, this level of performance would've been amazing. Have to imagine that's a good use case for this APU, just a bare minimum "the game plays" experience for a kid playing on the cheap family computer. When you don't know how much better it could be, you don't even really think about performance, so long as it plays.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah exactly, we had a compaq too haha. Intel gma

[@modernlogix]

I was recently surprised to see how the APUs from AMD have become very affordable. I was able to build a pc for friend with 5600g for about 260 to 300 euros with 16 gig ram and 500 gig nvme. While 2 years ago, only thing remotely available at that price point was 3400g and even that was unavailable in my country or was almost at the price of a 3600🥲. Really glad gaming is becoming available at budget again after 2 years of hellish GPU prices. It's still not the best but we've been through the worst.

[@Kubose]

@@RandomGaminginHD ours was a compaq 6265AA with an athlon xp 1800 and an integrated nvidia geforce 2 with 32mb of vram and 256 mb of ddr1 ram. We kept it for some reason, it actually still worked (as much as a ~20 year old windows xp computer can work) until a couple of years ago, doesn't turn on anymore so it lives in the closet now lol.

[@adaxgreat5721]

When the vga s costs more than a expedition to the moon... I bought a ryzen 4750g processor. + Patriot 2x 8gb 4266mhz rams. Im set it to 3800mhz. And i played gta 5 / hellblade senua s. / Resi village / prey (2017), wow, wot, wows, war thunder, overwatch, cs go, etc. But i never use 900p or the lowest settings. Still i use 32gb 3600mhz with a rx 480 8gb. But i always feelin good and im happy for buyin the 4750g. This helped me to survive many years when the vga price costs more than a older used car on my country..

[@Kizarat]

I'm really curious to know how desktop Ryzen RDNA3 G-series APUs will perform.

[@riven4121]

Phoenix is rumoured to be in the ballpark of an RX 470/GTX 1650. These are the new laptop Zen 4 APUs with RDNA 3 AMD absolutely could make a desktop APU that has serious grunt behind it (the SoCs in the PS5 and XSX are AMD Ryzen APUs albeit with much faster GDDR6 as VRAM/system memory) but will never do it because it would cannibalise sales of their higher margin GPUs.

[@Kizarat]

@@riven4121 Maybe they could make APUs that replace lower end GPUs such as the RX 6500 XT which did not sell well.

[@styrelsefksu4463]

I have a 5600G 32gb ram Asus ROG STRIX 550F motherboard running Linux as my new gaming rig and it works really well but I did have a problem with the computer totally freezing up in one game a while ago I looked in the logg files to see what the last thing it did was before it hanged there was a error message that said out of graphics memory it turned out that my 5600 G only used 1 Gb of graphics memory so I googled how to fix it and dedicate more memory in the bios it is now using 8 gb of ram for the graphics and the difference is enormous and it is now running really stable

[@TDP808]

Would be great to see where the PCIE3 x8 bandwidth affects the dGPU at losses of 5% or more. Thanks a lot for the great content!

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

PCIE bandwidth will start to affect as soon as run out of VRAM. But then you'll have bigger problems to worry about.

[@bulutcagdas1071]

Still pretty useful for other things. For example if you have a Freesync monitor with only an HDMI port and you have an Nvidia GPU, you can plug the monitor into the motherboard to allow the APU to control the Freesync function while the Nvidia card handles the rendering.

[@robertanthonybermudez5545]

I don't think it will work that way

[@panpaism]

I've been using a 4650G for almost 1.5 years now and I would never consider buying a separate GPU. I play demanding games on my Xbox Series and for PC exclusive games (Riot and Blizzard games) Vega 7 is solid 1080p 60+ with the right settings. I love this silent beast with almost zero power consumption while modern GPU's almost demanding a wall plug to run😅

[@maksymiliankuznik4856]

can't wait for desktop APUs with RDNA3 graphics

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah same

[@youcantata]

I am anticipating next gen "Raphael" 'Dragon Rang' (mobile) and ‘Phoenix’ (desktop) 7000 series APU , successor of 5700G

[@robertfoster838]

The 5700g is very amenable to overclock. The iGPU can get to 2400mhz and i overclocked my ram from 3200 to 4000 mhz. Theres at least a 20+ % gain in performance for minimal effort . Have a look at ETA pimes video on the settings .

[@TheSpotify95]

8:37 Heh, I think you probably did overdo it a little bit. The bog standard Low Preset would have probably still netted you a playable result, though Performance Mode is designed for integrated graphics like this, weaker hardware, and basically anything that just can't handle Low Mode.

[@MortalityUnleashed]

The 5700G is ideal for those with like $500 who want to build a computer and upgrade later. At time of this post, for $497.94 pre-tax/shipping, you can get this: R7 5700G ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming Wifi 16GB(8x2) Teamgroup VulcanZ 3200-CL16 1TB Crucial P3 Plus Gen4 NVMe M.2 SSD 650-Watt EVGA BQ 80+ Bronze PSU NZXT H510i Mid-Tower Case Gives you an excellent starter PC for $500, and you have an excellent upgrade path, with lots of power budget, perhaps wait for an RX 7700 XT to pair with it.

[@sylverrob]

Dont regret getting it during the shortage.

[@Craider79]

The HUGE problem for this APU is the fact that you can get 7840HS mini PC for 449$ (bare bones meaning + RAM and Storage - which should be like 60-100$) - and the 7940HS at 509$. The 5700G is still 175$ which means once you add the motherboard, PSU and case you are AT LEAST breaking the 350$ if you aren't going with some insanely cheap parts... and at that point we have to talk performance difference in games... For some reason there are VERY few comparisons between the 7840HS and the 5700G - however a channel named "GeekBoy - Labs" has one - and the difference is pretty striking! In a lot of games the 780M in the 7840HS seems to be 2x as fast as the Vega8 in the 5700G... If the "real" price difference is less than 100$ and the gaming performance is that much better then - the 5700G seems like a bit of a waste of money TBH.

[@someguy3186]

I have the 5700G in my main rig because it was about $150 cheaper than the X when I bought it. But at this point, I'll probably replace it with a better CPU and use the 5700G for a small form factor build that I can hook up to the TV in the master bedroom for media playing + light gaming.

[@JohnDoe-ip3oq]

Vega is the last AMD GPU to support fluid motion, so it's a good upgrade for PCIe 3.0 boards with a dedicated GPU. Maybe some programs will use HSA someday, I dunno.

[@nikosensei1258]

Bro, my gtx 650ti died in GPU shortage era, luckily i have my old gt240, damn era

[@Decenium]

I know Cyberpunk is an Nvidia showcase game at this point...but they should really update the FSR implementation

[@SGTADMAN]

I was thinking about getting one of these to replace my Ryzen 7 2700 a while back, but never got around it. But now the "3D" Ryzens are here and I'm more tempted to go with those now. Are you gonna look at those 3D Ryzens at any point?

[@houssam5180]

my 5600G manages +200fps in CSGO! very happy with it

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Nice :)

[@curie1420]

i have the r7 5700g and a rx 6700xt, using dual monitors is actually a very nice.... streaming, youtube or discord on the igpu and games on the dgpu