Does Anybody Hate Anything More Than Chris Brockman Hates Derek Jeter?? | The Rich Eisen Show

Red Sox fan Chris Brockman and Yankees fan Rich Eisen debate if Derek Jeter is overrated and if Nomar Garciaparra was the better shortstop.
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[@koreancardboard]

Chris is right about the gold glove award

[@MJM17]

Fill-in sound guy: *cuts off TJ* “Well of course the wrestling fan’s like that.” TJ: “Okay, back to you not talking!” Sound guy: “Alright…” 😂

[@polpol1005]

who is sound guy?

[@keefriff99]

I’m a Sox fan, and Brockman sounds demented. Jeter was a great player with a spotless career and 5 rings. A-Rod has an awesome stat sheet, but it’s meaningless because everything is tainted and no one respects him.

[@kodymcbanks1]

You’re not a Sox fan and Lemmy disapproves of your BS as well.

[@mcleanse1382]

Well put, Jeter has 5 rings to Arods 1, has 3000 hits, has never been linked to steroids, and he is in the Hall of Fame and Arod may never be due to the cheating, so this one seems obvious.

[@shepshape2585]

Not only that, but class and rings matter. Everyone in baseball respected and admired Jeter. Even as a Yankees fan I can respect and admire Nomar. There are just some players who can win over even their most hated rivals.

[@ryancalhoun2910]

@@mcleanse1382 rings mean nothing in baseball

[@ryancalhoun2910]

Brockman is totally right. Derek Jeter was great but overrated. Nowhere near top 25 player of all time.

[@johngarynavida]

With all due respect to Brockman re: Gold Glove look up Omar Vizquel who won 11 of them with a career FLD% of almost 99%. Ozzie Smith won 13 with 98% FLD.

[@buffaloarchivesnow]

Gonna be a long summer for Brockman with The Captain series coming out in July.

[@saipanbrad]

"He's a bi-racial angel!"

[@robertdipenice3454]

Only Yankee player in history with 3000 hits. That would be enough. Add five rings, seven American League Championships and a class act in every way imaginable. This is simply Wrong!

[@Yankeemet]

AROD's achilles heel is that he choked way too much, had a few clown plays and his steroids/drama was just pathetic. Nomar was good but Jeter got rings and many, many clutch plays/hits. The only thing Jeter lacks AROD had was HR power. But Jeter was a complete player. Lifetime 300 hitter and good enough glove to play 2 decades for high pressure Yankees, with iconic defensive plays. Jeter is cleaner and less drama.

[@adawg1125]

his good enough glove is one of the worst rated shortstops of all time

[@d.a.baracus1438]

@5:43 - Let's not be so dismissive of Nomar. From 1996 to 2003, the guy was sure-fire, no-brainer HOFer, slashing .328/.375/.562/.925. He was an all-time great. Then he had a devastating Achilles injury & he was never the same. He could still hit (hitting .291 from 2004-2009) but his power was gone & he lost the mobility to play SS everyday. He's basically Boston's version of Don Mattingly. @6:04 - Whose career would you rather have? Of the 3, the answer can only be Jeter. The only argument for A-Rod is career earnings & individual hardware, but his career would also come w/ his PED suspension & forever being labeled a cheater. When you consider the respect of your peers & the public, it can only be Jeter. Plus, he's the only 1 in the HOF. @8:36 - Absolutely agree that Gold Gloves Awards are a terrible metric to judge the quality of a player's defensive ability. Until the recent change in the award evaluation process, the award was given more for reputation than actual skill. Exhibit 1: In 1999, Rafael Palmeiro won the AL GG for 1B...even tho he only played 28 GAMES at 1B that yr. Palmeiro had won the GG in 1997 & 1998, & he had an outstanding yr. at the plate, playing 128 games as the DH. I can only assume voters knew Palmeiro's rep for being a good defender, saw he played 156 games, assumed he had played predominantly 1B, & just voted for him w/o doing any actual research. I lost all respect for the GG after seeing that.

[@taylorevans1199]

Brockman just wants a gift basket

[@PaulMeyette]

He may have taken "48 steps" but Jeter literally caught the ball 2 strides before the stands.

[@adawg1125]

5 strides

[@shaneknight44]

Yeah flying in at full speed, not knowing exactly where he was going? If you think he dramatized this, you clearly show that you personally are a non athlete. Brockton is a loud mouth, no game having, hater. I can’t think of a single athlete that doesn’t appreciate this play as one of the all time best. Period. Regardless of what team you like. Haters will always hate! Usually Brocktons takes are pretty insightful but the way he’s clinging to this absurd take… man the only explanation is he’s a TROLL that never actually played anything, but give that big mouth a mic and suddenly he knows something??? Nope!

[@DucksGamedayBreakdown]

I do agree with the gold glove argument. The Jeter argument I don’t agree with 😂

[@chadbinette3201]

At that time nomar was the one starting in that all star game but injuries just took too much.

[@brianmalaquias9425]

Steroids

[@infernodotdash2203]

I don't know if it beats brockman's hate for Jeter but I have a coworker who regularly discusses committing war crimes against people who leave the cap off the ketchup bottles.

[@pompelmostique]

Forget about Jeter, I would NEVER pick A-Rod's career. He's so much more tolerable post-career than pre-retirement. Brockman has to be trolling.

[@madnessontheisland]

Sure. Zion hates salad. Aaron Rodgers hates science. Tom Brady hates anonymity. Brandon Staley hates punting. Baker Mayfield hates feelings. Deshaun Watson hates dating. Jerry Jones hates competent leaders. Lamar hates getting paid. Lebron hates sinophobia. Joe Burrow hates Eli Apple. Tyrod Taylor hates needles. Drew Brees hates broadcasting. Urban Meyer hates kickers. Suzy hates passenger Rich.

[@polpol1005]

passenger Rich? Care to elaborate?

[@treyrogers6228]

That is an asinine take by Brockman

[@tylermccann848]

Chris is right about the GG, pre Statcast era. But nowadays I'd argue stats, analytics and team performance have more to do with that award, as well as the SS and other awards.

[@stillsixstudios]

Chris in typical Red Sox fashion blinded by his hatred of Yankees & Jeter plus his bitterness for how Nomar's career went. As a Mariners fan, A-Rod had good regular seasons but came up short all too often in the post season. With much respect, Jeter was Mr.Clutch.

[@philipflores2515]

Brockman is 1000% correct. If Jeter played for any other franchise he’d be considered a very good player

[@prot3g31]

And only very good

[@jrn2121]

Yeah ok, but he didn’t. He played for the highest profile team in the game and thrived. A ton of other more talented (supposedly) players have wilted under the pressure of playing in NY.

[@alexs.9903]

No matter what team Jeter plays for he goes to HOF. No cap.

[@CharlieFoxtrotBlog]

Brockman is 100% correct. And I think Rich probably still tears up over Dave Roberts too, but for different reasons....

[@robertlowrie8446]

Rich Eisen plays dumb better than Jeter plays shortstop.

[@bobinjc]

I just watched Jeter's catch and dive into the stands again and he didn't have any choice but to dive. There was no wall to bang into, just a knee-high injury obstacle! I don't think I can ever take Brockman serious agian, his contempt for Jeter is weirdly personal.

[@mcleanse1382]

Apparently it is possible to stop instantly after running full speed for about 55 steps...give me a break.

[@kodymcbanks1]

Chris finally makes some sense and Rich can’t think correctly letting his NY fandom blind him to any rationale.

[@mrblonde432]

Dollar Store Craig Carton has lost his mind.

[@jdstan9650]

O-ver-ra-ted...excellent players can still be overrated...Jeter & David Beckham are the poster boys.

[@FreeRoyalPowerHour]

Sports fans take their hate to a weird,hyperbolic,lowlife level lol. It’s so creepy. I’m a Sox fan born and raised in Boston and these dummies around here don’t understand the concept of any fan not hating a “rival” without merit. Brockman is a prime example

[@explained4242]

He is right about the gold glove. The best fielder does not get the gold glove. That award is a popularity contest. Jeter was an incredibly overrated in fielder. The statistics don't care about your feelings. You can be ignorant and not look at the statistics but they do not lie. And five gold gloves does not count as a statistic because it does not involve statistics. It was popularity.

[@michaelullo2152]

ALL... OF... THIS... Golden Glove was a ridiculous reward that rarely acknowledge the best fielder.

[@yolohernadez2991]

Has brockman ever fully sprinted. You cant stop just like that because your momentum will keep carring you.

[@werquantum]

That was entertaining.

[@hart7668]

"Chris finally makes some sense" "This is an asanine take from Brockman" The duality of man lmao

[@luciocunha928]

Yep, Rich hate for Urban in definitely bigger.

[@666AmigoBear]

I feel like this argument is similar to Barry sanders and emmitt smith. Maybe the Yankees would’ve won the same amount of rings had the roles been reversed.

[@brandonthompson628]

Brock's right. Jeter is one of the biggest phonies

[@shepshape2585]

The fact that a freaking Pats fan, who for years had the biggest drama queen of all time at quarterback, can sit there and talk about Jeter being dramatic is insane. Also, only a New England fan would want a steroid user over one of the most iconic and winning Yankees of all time.

[@mrblonde432]

How many current great players wear #2 because of Jeter? No one is wearing #13 because of A-Rod

[@vladrek]

Manny machado does.

[@mrblonde432]

@@vladrek ok. So it’s like 50 to 1

[@djmilkdudgbdad2669]

Some how stats were not brought out this whole time. Other than one counting stat.

[@jeremiahhamilton2501]

Schilling did not bleed he is a vampire so there

[@The_king567]

He loves Brady but hates A-rod what a hypocrite

[@chiprenner]

Chris who? Never heard of him.

[@Smithy31]

Man this sounds like ultimate sour grapes, hating for the sake of hating 😂

[@willbeyer6228]

Gotta side with a Brockman- gold glove is meaningless. Palmeiro won a gold glove while playing 28 games in the field.

[@OhThankKevin]

His “best fielding percentage” comment negated his about gold gloves.

[@scottyoung4226]

Seriously? Nobody has brought up "Yeah Jeets!" yet?

[@findingtheFOOT]

Brockman is oblivious.

[@stephengeorge965]

Chris is hypnotized by hatred for Jeter.

[@mikeelton3686]

He was great but overrated totally agree!

[@mathiasjay4320]

Yes. Rich hates Urban Meyer far more.

[@MiniatureMorpheus]

Everyone other than Yankees fans choose A-Rod over Jeter. A-Rod is just a vain and Sus person but was without doubt a better baseball player than Jeter.

[@keefriff99]

His skill was incredible, but he was a phony with no heart. He came up lame in 2004 and only kind of redeemed himself in 2009. That’s why he has one ring and Jeter has 5.

[@nathanworthington4451]

You're wearing a mauve sweater. Just be quiet & read tweets.

[@Fth3465]

Hey rich thanks for standing against this jeter slander that somehow exists

[@macho13us]

the same way i feel when i talk too delusianal people that know their in the wrong jijijiji

[@matthewkemmerle6477]

Big time Yankee fan. Jeter is special and always part of Yankees deities, but ARod was definitely better. No question. I’d rather be Jeter but I’d rather have ARod’s talent.

[@pompelmostique]

As a die-hard-suffering Mariners fan, I'd agree... I'd pick A-Rod if I could dissolve his God-like ego first.

[@kineticsimulations3593]

I'm more surprised by the day that Chris Brockman has a job. Not just in sports. Anywhere.

[@chrisschrock5117]

Preach it! He's a total clown and brings the show down. Wanna get that award next year Rich? Drop that Brockman bum.

[@thejourneyofdj4768]

A fun fact statistically jeter is one of the worst shotstops of all time and that is not a lie go look it up

[@TheMogulman31]

The only reason to take Arod's career over Jeter's is money and if he just says that its fine, but this is clearly just irrational hatred. I'll take the 260 million, 5 rings and and untainted legacy of Jeter. Over the 450, 1, and dubious reputation of Arod.

[@nicka.417]

You know a player’s the GOAT when he gets this much hate AND love…with 5 Chips. 🐐 🐐

[@stingrey1571]

Im a die hard Yankees fan. I went to all the parades. Arod was the better player-period.

[@keefriff99]

More skilled? Sure. But he had no heart, no integrity, and generated no passion. Jeter was a leader who came up big many times. That’s what defines his greatness, not his stats.

[@stingrey1571]

@@keefriff99 no doubt, not disagreeing with you. Jeter is clutch. Arod will hit a 2 run homer when his team is up or down by ten runs.

[@michaelbowman4371]

That knowledge of sports is ridiculous

[@uhohitsdj93]

A Tom Brady supporter complaining about the honor of any other athlete should be the definition of hypocrisy

[@The_king567]

Exactly

[@tjmj5238]

Preach! Nomar was better!

[@samrod2832]

Trot Nixon = GOAT

[@arkhamknight6371]

This dude is weird,jeter had no shot in not jumping into the stands..Running way too fast

[@rossdilworth3412]

Jeter was always a below average defender...first ballot hall of famer. But he's a Yankee so I can't like him. I'm with brockman.

[@AJSchneider-ot1ux]

Chris is like a child when it comes to this. I get the hate for A-Rod, but Jeter is unnecessary.

[@TheStrategist314]

LMFAO!!!

[@dougswamprat5275]

Nelly had to wear a band aid for years because he got cut so bad.

[@ExclusiveLM]

If Jeter had run slower towards the stand he would not have caught the ball. He had to run at full speed to have any chance at the ball and once he caught the ball the momentum carried him into the crowd. This idiot is just a hater. Even the Red Sox gave Jeter a standing ovation after his last hit in Fenway and being taken off the field. Keep hating the so called over rated Jeter because 100 years from now people will be reading about Jeter in the history books, not the haters. The haters will be forgotten.

[@chrisratcliff7466]

I too hate Derek Jeter. He's Satan in human form. That's how he's that good at......everything he does.

[@kawibomber6098]

Least drama queen? Ask eisen about Jeter and A-Roid playing together lol. Jeter is the most overrated athlete in history.

[@mikeelton3686]

Hey ya feel after my jays beat your mets! .. again lol

[@tjwashington2683]

Brockman is just annoying tbh. It’s hard to listen to anything he says. A lot of his tales are just outrageous and ridiculous. Why do they even entertain him? (Yes I know why. It’s hypothetical)

[@MrTUBEular10]

Juan Uribe catch was a million times better than the oversold, overrated Jeter catch.

[@brewer921]

Jeter was a terrible fielder.

[@reemak8500]

Jeter couldn't carry Ripken's jock

[@tphoto10]

😂 Brockman is insane with hatred.

[@chrisschrock5117]

Well Rich, your fans dislike Brockman MORE than he dislikes Jeter. So think about that

[@catherinewilliams9680]

How can anyone hate Jeter? He's an incredibly classy man. Take the situation with Miami. Jeter could've stayed and just went through the motions, knowing that the other owners of the team weren't going to put any real effort in putting together a winning team in Miami. But he didn't. Not only that, but he also quit and sold his stake of the team once his five-year contract was over. He didn't stay once he realized that no one else was going to buy into the winning culture he tried to instill in the organization.

[@ElPhenomenon]

Idk if I would hate him , but he’s prolly overrated , coming from a Yankees fan . Although I think his arm strength is greatly under appreciated

[@DanielLDavidson88]

Jeter is the most over-rated player in the history of MLB. He was a poor defensive shortstop who refused to let A-Rod, one of the best defensive and offensive shortstops play 3rd base.

[@tomstevens7452]

Agree, if he played for the Twins he would have maybe been 3 AS appearances.

[@marlonelliot8943]

Every time ARod left a team, the old team got better and the new team got worse. Seattle set the regular season wins record after he left. Yankees lost to the Red Sox for the first time in the playoffs when he joined the team.

[@bradcornell6329]

Every poll of major league players at the time said the most ridiculous thing was the jeter hate. Jeter did all the mundane baseball plays unknowledgeable fans don’t see. Always took the extra base. The play in Oakland is the best play I have ever seen and jeter is the only one that makes that play. That is how instinctively genius he was.

[@vladrek]

@@marlonelliot8943 Texas didn't really get better. And after that one seattle season in 2001 they never went back to the playoffs. Longest drought currently.

[@mkadoza]

Derek Jeter is top 20 all time in offensive WAR, and 61st in overall WAR. Analytically, Derek Jeter for his career was about as valuable as Frank Thomas, Reggie Jackson, Jim Thome, Barry Larkin, Manny Ramirez and Miguel Cabrera.... How the hell is that overrated.

[@elijahpfeifer6811]

Well, I mean Brock is clearly a hater😂😂 dude said that Jeter took 48 steps and didn’t need to dive into the stands…has Brock ever played a baseball game in his life?

[@macho13us]

the only yankee that gets standup ovations in boston stadium. they respected his game.

[@lexnorwood6949]

Might be the first thing Brock man ever said that I agreed with

[@handsanitizer1963]

The fact that him leaving Miami because they aren’t going to compete and he’s too much of a competitor is bs too lol It’s been well stated the reasons he left Miami. But jeter always gets the favorable story lol

[@Rick-Rarick]

Jeter is the man!

[@brokenleveeIV]

Jeter most overrated athlete ever

[@The_king567]

That’s Tom Brady