Does Col. Dugan Know Kreese and Terry Silver?

[@joshuaharding7363]

I got a feeling Col.Dugen was a good person but was rejected by Keese and Sliver in Cobra Kai or get his butt kicked alot. He takes his failures and frustrations out on his students. The army is all he knew.

[@joshuaharding7363]

*Dugan*

[@jacksoncarroll7801]

Don't Think He Was

[@rich355]

Colonel Dugan is admittedly not, as interesting compared to John Kreese and Terry Silver, but he does have the contrast factor that does make things fascinating. Notice, how Terry's favorite way of pain and pleasure is psychological damage on his enemies. Terry doesn't have a problem hurting you, but he takes pleasure mainly from hurting you emotionally by turning Daniel aggressive, he breaks his relationship with Miyagi and turns Daniel into what Daniel hates. Colonel Dugan doesn't focus too much on hurting someone mentally with the exception of threats, like you said Dugan focuses on Brute force and Physical Harm. Kreese on the other hand is a mix of the two. He becomes more psychologically damaging around those close to him, like Johnny and doesn't take much of an issue with it, as long as it benefits him and his goals. Around those he views as enemies or outsiders, he enjoys the physical harm, like it's a war. Terry to me represents Psychological harm, Colonel Dugan represents the physical harm and pain, and Kreese is like a interesting hybrid.

[@KenCole]

Excellent point and a fascinating way to view these characters in relation to each other.

[@Johnadams20760]

richard Gonzalez, well played.

[@afranks8566]

Never thought of it that way but that's pretty insightful! Terry likes to psychologically toy with his opponents before moving in, where Dugan likes to skip the foreplay and go right for the jugular. Kreese has shown both sides.

[@afranks8566]

@Mike H right but he has shown moments where he'll just go right for the kill, like Dugan. Like in the parking lot in the 2nd movie against Miyagi. He just went right after Miyagi. In the first movie when Bobby was supposed to face Daniel he just wanted Bobby to take him right out. And in the 3rd movie when he had the chance to double team with Silver against Miyagi, he again just chose to go right after Miyagi himself. Over the years tho, it does seem like he's become more manipulative. Like Silver.

[@afranks8566]

@Mike H so I agree with the original poster about Kreese being sort of a hybrid of both.

[@SwabySean1]

One of the major things I notice about Cobra Kai is that nothing is written by accident, everything is on purpose in the Storyline.

[@DecadesApartProductions]

I'm a simple man. I see Ken Cole uploaded a video about Michael Ironside and I click.

[@KenCole]

😆🙌

[@chillguydave925]

You mean darkseid

[@firestar4407]

Col. Dugan and his students are the most over the top school security guards I've seen. lol

[@KenCole]

Get to class on time... or else.

[@Michaelgabriel95]

@@KenCole yeah like you said militarized hall monitors

[@melissapas8474]

@@KenCole Hey good video. It’s possible that he could know Kreese and Silver. I mean if he does make an appearance he would have to have a small connection to someone in the valley because they just wouldn’t have him show up out of nowhere. Maybe they met through their captain in Vietnam, I mean he is a military man.

[@melissapas8474]

@@KenCole And you also bring on a good point that we could have already seen colonel Dugan in the flashback and not known it at the time and your right it is a fun thing to speculate and time will tell if that speculation will come true or not

[@melissapas8474]

@Mike H Anything is possible

[@Sutho81]

All three of them knowing each other is definitely the "entry point" to insert him into the series and also bring in the character Julie. It would not surprise me if it is already in the back of their minds for planning with nothing set in stone yet.

[@VanishingNomad]

Easy to bring back Julie. she was Miyagi's long time student. Theres no way Daniel didnt know her well.

[@davidmorrissey5075]

Michael ironside, the actor who played Dugan, is currently in an Irish/Belgian co-production, "Hidden Assets". He's aged considerably and has put on quite a bit of weight. I couldn't see him making a comeback to Cobra Kai, but it's good he's still active

[@FreddyKurganNimmo]

He could come back just as a single episode appearance to help Kreese after his prison escape. No martial arts needed.

[@jorjaismacias4200]

is exactly what I was thinking and you are literally one of the few who have touched the issue of whether Terry Silver and John kreese knows Paul dougan

[@KenCole]

Thanks and I’m glad I’m not the only one!

[@M.C.ThomasReviews]

To me, Dugan is the only Karate Kid villain that doesn’t have a single redeeming quality. But if he shows up in Cobra Kai, I’m certain the writers of the show will change that.

[@KenCole]

For sure. The writing for the OG characters has been incredible.

[@TheJohnnyCotts]

What is Terry Silver's redeeming quality? All I can think of is he's very loyal to his friend, Kreese.

[@TheJohnnyCotts]

@Mike H I see Silver showing just how evil he can be, leading Kreese to finally turn against him.

[@mightguy3118]

We don't know much about him so he probably does have redeeming qualities

[@mightguy3118]

@Mike H We barely know anything about him 😂

[@Supremmo]

I like that theory. It's possible that after those events and under the guidance of Kreese, Dugan was set on the road to become an Alpha Elite. He may of modeled himself after him and when he rose in the ranks, branched off to start his own unit. He may been a career military man until settling as a security officer in the public schools. I think in the current timeline of Cobra Kai it's likely after the dissolution of Alpha Elite he may went into private military contract work echoing the "stories" Kreese was feeding Johnny in Season Two.

[@KenCole]

That’s interesting! It seems there are a number of narrative threads they can pull.

[@nahuellombardia6031]

6:41 OMG i havent notice any of that! you are a genius, now i do think that is a younger dugan. TB3 put a lot of atention to detail. this is great!

[@KenCole]

😆 Thanks, yeah I think there are some... interesting similarities there!

[@danielcastro8216]

I bet he was one of the POWs held with Kreese and Silver

[@epcotman32]

I am assuming they will start introducing characters from TNKK in future seasons, because I believe Kreese, Silver and Dugan met sometime in Vietnam, whether he was a member of their unit or was a commanding officer. As for Julie, it would be nice if she and Daniel met so they can make Miyagi do more better.

[@LazyPirate8]

Or she's actually Tories sick mother.

[@smash910]

@@LazyPirate8 na definitely not

[@chinodelchicano8332]

Silver and Dugan joining forces

[@BillyButcher90]

Julie should be in a law enforcement or legal career.

[@amin_rulesandraps1984]

I don’t think a lot of TNKK is canon.

[@danielcastro8216]

I so would love seeing Dugan again on Cobra Kai as well as Julie but I want to see Julie as Tory's anger management therapist plus it's well known and the writers have said Julie and Daniel met at Miyagi's funeral and it's likely Dugan knew Kreese and Silver

[@irvinalexanderflores]

Would be cool to see her rehabilitate Tory In that way it's in her nature since she rehabilitated Angel the Hawk but now she's be healing people for a living.

[@davidjames468]

This was a much needed video, and I really liked how you showed how we may have already seen him in the flashback. That causes me to think we most likely have and this can get even better as the series moves along.

[@KenCole]

Thanks David! This was definitely a fun topic to think about.

[@nahuellombardia6031]

First! yesss i wanted a video like this ! the next karate kid doesnt get many atention, because it kinda doesnt deserve it as a movie, but the amount of interesting lore of karate kid that this movie brings up has always fascinated me,a lot of ideas with potential to do a great movie with a good screenwriter as rmk or a good director, even when the movie itslef its pretty mediocre. so im glad that you are talking about that element of the movie specially the character of coronel dugan.

[@KenCole]

I think you're exactly right - no matter what you thought of the movie, there's some interesting lore there that could be expanded upon.

[@BenjaminGessel]

Colonel Dugan

[@stephendexheimer7914]

The writers have done a terrific job exploring the dimensions of Kreese, Silver, and with Mike Barnes so clearly coming back, Dugan deserves a comeback. If you can make Silver and Kreese crazier than they were in the original movies, you could do the same with Dugan, I can imagine Dugan bringing back the Alpha Elites and then wondering what Cobra Kai is so he meets Silver and they get along so well he decides to work with Silver to make Alpha Elites even tougher

[@KenCole]

It would be so amazing to see Dugan come back. My dream scene would be Michael Ironside, Martin Kove and Thomas Ian Griffith in the same scene.

[@jonathanperess6408]

The character in Cobra Kai season three there was the guy in the POW camp in Vietnam who fought someone over the snake pit and beat him although there was no name to that character. That character might be considered Dugan. The Next Karate Kid was terrible. However, putting the character Dugan, Kreese, and Terry together in Cobra Kai would be awesome!

[@SlashinatorZ]

If only silver hadn't betrayed his friend & if Kreese had treated him as an equal

[@irvinalexanderflores]

Honestly I thought the next Karate Kid was kinda fine it's weird not having Daniel or knowing where he is they'd have you assume he abandoned Miyagi but thanks to Cobra Kai that obviously isn't the case so the thing about TNKK is it doesn't ruin anyone as a character Mr. Miyagi is still Mr. Miyagi all the new characters like Dugan and Julie can't be ruined since they're brand new, compared to following Daniel for 3 films learning Karate, and he still gets bullied all the time.. I honestly disliked KK3 more even though I love Terry Silver as a character.

[@funboy4809]

The Next Karate Kid was awesome I mean Mister Miyagi was in it, and I love Julie Pierce, that movie was magical... 😈

[@SkylerDouglas]

They could definitely use that for the future if they do want to bring him back or maybe you found their Easter egg.

[@chillguydave925]

I hope they put him in the show It’d make sense for the school to

[@KenCole]

Oooo, great point...

[@lizzkaayako2270]

Another great video, Mr. Cole! I'd been wondering what your next video would be about. It's very much possible Dugan and Kreese/Silver *have* crossed paths. Seeing Young Kreese vs. Young Dugan in a 1970-1972 Army Karate Championships flashback would be another cool way to bring Dugan into Cobra Kai, even if just as an Easter Egg.

[@KenCole]

That's a fun idea!

[@ninjapirate123]

I want to see Col Dugan bring his whole gang here in season 5 of Cobra Kai

[@dakentaijutsu2010]

What gang? All his students ditched him after knowing about his true colors, and what part would Dugan have played in Cobra kai anyway?

[@ryanbadgerheart]

After watching season 5 and re watching the next KK , I think this may well be the case, in one of he first scenes when he is training in the school yard, he grabs the throat of one of his students very similar move that chozen does to Daniel when he tells him about master Kim and Tang Soo Do. Could this mean that Dugan studied under master Kim during the Vietnam war?

[@chillguydave925]

Coming back to this I think you are correct They seem to be bringing in every old character from the karate kid show They even showed Johnny’s old biker gang /best friends After this it’s possible they do the final series during college and that’s where Dugan will be . Plus that’s a pretty good actor that I would love to see again on the screen

[@glenross9467]

I don’t think he’s connected. They just couldn’t use finish him as that was used by Kreese in karate kid. They just changed the words about a bit lol

[@arcticwolf9332]

As far as I'm concerned, that soldier in the flashbacks is dugan. Brilliant analysis.

[@Pancake3225]

If you think about it, the young POW soldier in Vietnam does kinda resemble what a young Dugan would look like.

[@simplequestioncanuanswer2457]

Dang Ken , I'm at 5 minutes in and wondering to myself if those POWs could have been Duggan. Then you brought it up. Way to be on point with all the angles. Great video perspective.

[@KenCole]

Thanks, glad you were thinking that too! The possibilities are interesting for sure.

[@kiggi__]

Very interesting stuff there Ken, I actually haven't seen the karate kid film he is in but i have to say i am a massive fan of Michael Ironside and if this is a possible way to bring him into the Cobra Kai universe it would not be a mistake to bring him in. He does for sure have the right style on screen for a bad guy and what you mentioned about the flash backs could well be him.

[@KenCole]

Honestly I'd love to see a scene with Martin Kove, Thomas Ian Griffith, and Michael Ironside. I think people's screens might explode.

[@ChrisRoth1972]

The evil thing that Dugan does,he mostly orders,however he could be serving Prison and he has PTSD,it appears that way.

[@MrRatchaphruek]

No he wouldn't be serving prison. It was during Vietnam war and rules of engagement were different (No body cams)

[@TonySkittleAlive184]

Ken Cole is looking cool with the Alpha's t-shirt 😎

[@antoniomatosjadraque2006]

In Cobra Kai just before Armand went to the Cobra's Gym, there was a scene where Kreese was seeing a photograph from Vietnam days. There were 3 guys on the picture: Silver, Kreese and probably Dugan.

[@DAsrada]

One thing I think it's good to notice is that Dugan's focus seems to be less on individual martial artist skill - and focus more upon societal control and applying brute strength to answer any dissent. The Alpha Elites wield an absolutely enormous and bizarre level of influence, control, and Dugan himself was able to weigh in on expulsion and multiple school functions. Whereas Kreese and Silver focus on martial arts themselves, Dugan is more of a controller of social circumstances and power in structures. I think it might be realistic to expect the Alphas to be akin to "you invite them in to keep your school safe, but slowly they usurp more and more control and authority". Which considering the repeated bullying and karate incidents at the school in Cobra Kai, we might see the school end up inviting the Alpha Elite in to "keep the students safe" via forming a Chapter there, not knowing what they're inviting into their midst.

[@christopherwang4392]

I always thought that Kreese and Dugan were rivals who served in different units and hated each other.

[@KenCole]

Now I’d like to see that play out!

[@castortroy7704]

Kreese would mop the floor with Dugan without breaking a sweat.

[@LoganDX1990]

If they did a kreese prequel that would be really cool

[@bobx6565]

Dugan has an impressive military career. He taught Maverick to fly and he killed bugs in the Battle of Klendathu. He could not survive Miagi’s bad breath. HONK!

[@jakeytedesco3003]

Ironside (Dugan) and Kove (Kreese) were in a movie together in 2001.. it is called Extreme Honour

[@douglasgreen1607]

I wouldn't be surprised if kreese makes a side trip to boston to pay an old friend a visit and finds ducan working as a security officer guard

[@KenCole]

Would love to see this!

[@johnnymarrco770]

Dugan wasn't really fleshed out in " The Next Karate Kid" he was very one dimensional in the movie. Unlike Kreese, we got to see many sides of him in the First , Second and Third Karate Kid movies and we got to see how methodical Terry Silver was. We really don't know that much about Dugan.

[@carminesandiego4303]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the strike.

[@YodaMiyagi]

Col Dugan to help form the new Alpha Elite aka Cobra Kai Elite Dugan teams up with Kreese & Kim They destroy Silver and then shift towards Miyagi Fang and then Julie Pierce teams up with Daniel , Johnny , Chozen , and Barnes

[@fsociety9369]

You by far have the best Cobra Kai/Karate Kid videos on the net. Great explanations of the characters and lore, and all possible theories are logical and based on facts. And catch the smallest things that no one else does ❤️

[@KenCole]

Wow, thank you! I'm speechless. I'm just glad other people enjoy talking about this stuff too 😄

[@dhirshg]

@@KenCole Absolutely brilliant videos and theories. FYI: Sean Kanan is my all-time favorite actor - mostly due to his Deacon Sharpe days though lol.

[@KenCole]

@@dhirshg Thank you! And Sean Kanan is definitely a great actor.

[@rodneylight3602]

He's a hell of a bad guy actor. I would definitely welcome him.

[@travelingdude1621]

The two old friends Silver might dig up for season 5 might just be Barnes and Dugan. 👌🏻

[@THERANDOMMAN91]

Well you’re wrong about Barnes

[@dj198228]

I could definitely see Dugan appearing in season 5 to keep things fresh. I don't think we need him in season 4 as we have Silver to mix things up and I'd like to see Mike Barnes before Dugan (which we probably will)

[@KenCole]

Yeah, I would agree.

[@robanah]

Can’t go bigger than Terry Silver though 😂

[@KenCole]

@@robanah indeed!

[@robanah]

@Mike H Nah... these writers are smart, they'd know that bringing in Mike Barnes in the same season as both Terry Silver and Kreese would be too much. So they will most likely leave Barnes for S5 or a very brief cameo in S4. Plus, like Terry's return and every other OG return, it would have to be organic, not like another show(Supernatural) where they just toss them in with little to no explanation or story. Once again, they are smart writers, so Barnes would have to fit into the story in some way, which probably won't work for S4 since the focus will mostly be on Terry Silver coming back.

[@michaelzoran]

Dugan definitely could have known Kreese and Silver. All of them were in the military. This factor easily could have made it so they knew each other.

[@emubilly999]

Excellent video!

[@KenCole]

Thank you very much!

[@js3599]

I always thought it was funny how Dugan promised Eric that he could get get him into the Air Force Academy, but no mention that a letter of recommendation from Miyagi, a winner of the Medal of Honor, could quite possibly, and very likely get Eric into the Academy as well. I find it unlikely, albeit not impossible, that Dugan has such an accolade. The reason I doubt it is because Dugan mentions his Army experience, but never mentions his awards... Not likely for someone like Dugan to not mention something like that. Many veterans don't like to speak about his/her war experiences, but Dugan, to me at least, just does not seem to fit that mold. Anyway, as Miyagi himself told Daniel, the medal only proved he was lucky, not brave. As for Dugan knowing Kreese and Silver? Possible, maybe even plausible. Being in the same unit in a war does not mean they all go home together to the same city and meet every Friday night for beer and billiards. Most go home to wherever their family/friends are, or wherever they can get a job and make a living, but some do stick together, and/or keep in contact in their post military lives.. I could certainly envision Dugan conditioning and sparring with the Cobra Kai students as Kreese and Silver look on in preparation of the tournament. He could certainly be the guy in the flashback. Maybe he will be in season 4... and/or/maybe future seasons. It would absolutely take a serious character overhaul to make Dugan fit to stand with Kreese and Silver as a formidable and believable villain, and not look like just a lackey. If they want that kind of character in the show, let them bring back Sting Ray...

[@KenCole]

Great points! You're right, I think Eric would be much better off with Miyagi's recommendation. And you talking about Dugan got me thinking, it's probably very likely he knew ABOUT John Kreese. After all, Kreese was US Army karate champion for three years. That's a rare honor I'm sure, and Dugan may have admired Kreese even if he didn't compete against him or know him personally.

[@michaelvaladez3012]

If they bring Dugan back they should bring in Julie,Eric McGowan,and Ned too.

[@danielwalshe3354]

All I want is a prequel series to Cobra Kai where it focuses on Kreese after the flashbacks in series 3. Imagine, Kreese and Silver making the foundation of CK, learning more Tang Soo Do and competing in the Army Karate Champs. Who does Kreese face in the Tournament I hear you ask? Col. Dougan of course

[@KenCole]

Would love to see this!

[@VanishingNomad]

THIS!! This right here!

[@CursedBarneyy]

I remember macchio saying anyone who interacted or knew mr. Miyagi in the karate kid universe they will or may be in cobra Kai.

[@KenCole]

💯 Indeed.

[@ArizonaRed]

Come back Micheal Ironside 😍

[@MrJamesakeller]

I always saw Dugan's fighting style as simplified military hand-to-hand combat. Like U.S. Marine Corps L.I.N.E. was in the 90's. Not martial arts.

[@castortroy7704]

It was army combatitive training.

[@VanishingNomad]

LINE came from the Shanghai police training. Its essentially Kung Fu, without the forms, mixed with judo. So it totally is martial arts.

[@MrJamesakeller]

@@VanishingNomad That's funny, LINE always struck me as a simplified, brutal, and lethal derivative of akido.

[@wherenomadhasgoneb4618]

I like yur concept and the guy in flashback does look like young Duggan

[@juanma250297]

I would love for Dougan to return in Season 5 or 6. The producers confirmed that they are planning at least 8 seasons of Cobra Kai. I would love to see Col Dougan return and be the soldier in the cage with Kreese and Silver. I could imagine that Silver brings him back to help him train his students in season 6. Silver will need all the help he can get because now Daniel, Johnny and Chozen will be working together, heck maybe Julie returns and joins them in training the Miyagi Do and Eagle Fang students. with that quarted working together Silver will be in deep troubles, he’ll need Mike Barnes and Dougan to come and help him train his students

[@ninclow5421]

If Dugan did serve with Kreese and Silver, the fact that he don't have "skills on the level of Terry Silver and Karate Champion John Kreese" could be because he only ever received the basic training in Tang Soo Do that George Turner had to offer, while Kreese and Silver had that _plus_ additional training under Master Kim himself.

[@KenCole]

Yes this is a great point.

[@ninclow5421]

@@KenCole Do you have an email or a Discord account I can reach you on? I have a great idea for a video you could make.

[@ninclow5421]

@@KenCole Do you have a Discord channel or something? I have an idea for a video you could make.

[@KenCole]

I don't right now but you can leave a comment if you have an idea!@@ninclow5421

[@ninclow5421]

@@KenCole Wouldn't that be a bit too spoilery?

[@youngloux]

I actually never thought that soldier in the NAM flashback could be col Dugan now that I look at them he has a general young look to Dugan like the kreese and silver actors in the flashbacks I actually think that could be the only way he and Julie can be introduced in cobra Kai because the writers said they want to involve all the characters that includes the Next karate kid characters he could be in s5 as one of the ‘old friends to help out with cobra Kai’ like Mike Barns because silver wants to open many dojo’s he needs a lot of sensei’s to teach at them

[@joshsherman2318]

Michael Ironside played his part well and I like him as an actor. This is a great potential write-in for him

[@DamonNomad82]

1:45 I thought that they should have used an alternate line for Miyagi after this scene. In the movie, his line was "Is best not to fight, but if must fight, win!" The version I would have favored was "Is best not to fight, but if must fight, eat lots of stinky tofu just before!" As to the actual subject of the video, I sort of always assumed Colonel Dugan was a former student of Kreese, due to the strong similarities in their styles of ruthless, attack-oriented training.

[@Damnationization]

Dugan should come in with a two by four and call himself Hacksaw Jim Dugan. 🤣

[@QuixoteX]

If it means getting Michael Ironside chewing the scenery. YES! It would be interesting though if he actually turned out to be the most stable of them all, after 30 years of treatment. I thought Terry Silver was gonna turn out to be the voice of reason that would bring Kreese back to his senses, but I guess I was wrong on that.

[@thelegendofthem6120]

Silver was always a psychotic . No way he was going to he the voice of reason. This show is great, but it's also very Riverdale. Everyone flip flopping to different sides constantly. It's great so bringing in Duggan and Julie Pierce and even Ned and Eric would be interesting.

[@michaelzoran]

Dugan is someone Daniel might actually have the ability to defeat. It is ABSURD the way Daniel defeats Silver and Kreese. Both Kreese and Silver are on a higher level than Daniel LaRusso or Chozen - the idiot that lost to a teenage Daniel in Karate Kid 2.

[@Hello_Ladies]

Kreese is 75 years old. Even when he was younger, his skills weren't very impressive. Daniel pulled some new moves on him, that he had recently learned from Chozen. Daniel beat Silver only after his fight with Chozen. Silver won the first round with Daniel easily, but when there were witnesses, Daniel embarrassed Silver.

[@michaelzoran]

@@Hello_Ladies Kreese may be 75 years old, but Kreese is still in excellent physical condition. I completely disagree with you when you say, "Even when he was younger, his skills weren't very impressive." Karate Kid 2 showed us Kreese was capable of easily defeating Johnny Lawrence and multiple other Cobra Kai students simultaneously. And we know John Kreese was superior to Terry Silver when both of them were physically in their prime, because Kreese was the Karate Champion of the Army multiple years in a row. We saw Myagi easily defeat Mike Barnes. Myagi defeated John Kreese, but it took very advanced moves to do so. Myagi also defeated Terry Silver, and embarrassed Terry Silver by spilling paint all over him. Plus, Terry Silver had the advantage of being the last to fight Myagi - which showed Terry Silver he needed to be very careful. Movies and TV shows often send the message that the "Older" characters are supposed to be seen as "Experienced" forms of "Instructors" that are virtually invincible. That is why Myagi was virtually invincible in the "Karate Kid" movies. I was truly hoping John Kreese would have been invincible in the "Cobra Kai" TV series that is named after him.

[@Hello_Ladies]

@@michaelzoran Thanks you, sir. You made some very valid points.

[@baccusx13]

If they have not met up in the Cobra Kai series flashback scene (interesting and plausible theory btw), it is fair to assume that Dugan knows Kreese by reputation for the 3 years Karate championship in the U.S. Army. Heck, maybe the reputation of Kreese could have influenced Dugan's career path after the army.

[@KenCole]

This is an excellent point. It’s highly likely Dugan knows exactly who Kreese is and as you say, Dugan may have looked up to and been influenced by Kreese.

[@josephgana5746]

THE DUDE WAS ALREADY IN COBRAI KAI IN THE FLASHBACKS!!!!!!!

[@saiyanwarrior3895]

that is paul dugan 6:36 from kreeze flashback

[@dakentaijutsu2010]

Um nothing is confirmed on that

[@saiyanwarrior3895]

@@dakentaijutsu2010 yes that maybe true but unless paul dugan apear as main alias of kreeze and master kim in cobra kai season 6 part 2 or 3

[@dakentaijutsu2010]

@@saiyanwarrior3895 which is unlikely

[@saiyanwarrior3895]

@@dakentaijutsu2010 wel you dont know that cobra kai season 6 part 2 or 3 said other wise sins julie piece and eric might return and ned randell and charlie and cabe and dutch and morgan

[@dakentaijutsu2010]

@@saiyanwarrior3895 believe me, I'm almost certain that they won't be in part 2 or 3, they would have no reason to appear

[@samuelstephen8147]

They may have just known each other, but that is about it. They probably were not friends.

[@brettmajors69karaoke]

All three were part of shadow company.

[@Hello_Ladies]

No way... Dugan was in the Navy, call sign "Jester" in the Top Gun academy. He was also a smoker with no cardio. He was lying to his students to appear tougher.

[@jakeytedesco3003]

Neds actor Michael Cavalieri just completed a Passion Film called Ritornato

[@ahsenkhan5386]

when Terry said he has a friend to raise Cobra Kai I think Terry was referring him as well as Mark Barnes and others

[@HepCatJack]

The name Michael Ironside sounds more like someone in the Navy

[@shawns9813]

Thanks for this man. Amazing possibilities. Imagine if Col Dugan comes back and it turns out he is Dmitri's uncle or something. Season 4 will be epic. You think Mike Barnes is returning?

[@KenCole]

Interesting! I’m confident Mike Barnes will return at some point. Not sure about Season 4 though, maybe 50/50, it could be Season 5.

[@shawns9813]

@@KenCole The actor Sean Kanan has given subtle hints that he is indeed returning. I think Mike Barnes' character will be a hybrid of Chozen. He will still be against Larusso, but also a rival of Silver. I feel these writers are creative to the point they won't give Barnes a redemption arc like Chozen. We shall see.

[@KenCole]

@@shawns9813 check out my interview with Sean if you haven’t seen it! kzbin.info/www/bejne/enrZimCIpdSYrqs

[@shawns9813]

@@KenCole awesome will do!

[@jonathanperess6408]

Mike Barnes I bet will appear in season five. Perhaps a surprising cliffhanger on the last episode of season four which is where Barnes shows up all of a sudden!

[@stephendexheimer7914]

I tweeted Hayden Schlossberg if Dugan was coming back and he said that Dugan has come up quite a lot in the writers room but want to find a way to bring him back that’ll make sense, we gotta tweet him this video because this theory does make a lot of sense

[@nealsmall9316]

Dude you should've tweeted him if Chozen will fight Kreese in season 6!

[@Grodd70]

That would be a great way to bring him on to the show. The flashback looks like a young Dugan.

[@CplDwayneHicks11]

May not be in Barcelona but maybe his watching the Livestreaming...

[@MaxiRyu99]

Well, he could be the next secret character reveal of Cobra Kai Season 5ive.....

[@CplDwayneHicks11]

MIT near Boston.

[@aprilripka5341]

I think dugon will appear in cobra Kai season 4 with kreese and silver war buddies

[@johnwilkins4125]

I think that's very possible Has that would also allow Julie from the next karate kid into the cobra kai serie & help tie everything together nicely

[@KenCole]

It would definitely be fascinating to see these characters in Cobra Kai.

[@stevehungarter8601]

Kreese was a two-time Karate champion in the Army. It is likely they could have met at one of those tournaments as well.

[@michaeladderley5180]

If they bring back a remix of American Ninja....I'm headed for the hills...

[@muhammadnaqvi1407]

Cobra Kai and Alpha Elite work together in S6 or 7

[@cokebenni]

Col. Dugan looks like Red foreman from that 70s show

[@darth_vedant669]

Ngl that slap and choke thing looked alot like what chosen did to show tang so do

[@Sgtvalentini]

Well, atleast his military flashback won't have a ponytail lol

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Another terrific video, well presented, Ken! My personal opinion is: It's 'possible' Kreese & Silver once knew Dugan. But if that turned out to be true, then I would not like it. It'd be too big a stretch... Just say the following out loud: Miyagi lived peacefully in Los Angeles for years, and about the only people he ever fought with there were Kreese & Silver (and their students). Then years later, Miyagi travels all the way to the other side of the country (Boston), has similar tension with someone else - and then it turns out this person once knew Kreese & Silver? That'd be about the biggest coincidence I've ever heard in my life. That said, I think Michael Ironside is an excellent actor, and I sure wouldn't be opposed to seeing him appear on Cobra Kai. It'd just need to be a story that seems believable to me... One story I wouldn't mind seeing would be simply saying that Dugan has never forgiven Miyagi for beating him up in front of his students. Then one day Dugan is visiting LA, hears the name "Miyagi-Do Dojo," learns that Miyagi's old student (Daniel) is now teaching students, and that rubs Dugan the wrong way - which leads to him meeting Daniel and REALLY getting things started on the wrong foot? Or maybe if Hilary Swank ever does show up on Cobra Kai as Julie Piece (which I hope she does for a few episodes), and Dugan happens to be in LA, still feels bitter towards Julie, then this could start a story of tension between Dugan and Julie's friend (Daniel), which could lead to Dugan wanting to team up with Daniel's enemies (Kreese and Silver)... I don't know. All I'm really saying here is: I think it'd be too big a stretch to say Dugan already knows Kreese and Silver, but I sure wouldn't mind seeing Dugan show up on Cobra Kai, meet Kreese & Silver for the first time, and then join forces with them. Yet I must admit: I kind of LOVED what you said at 5:59 - now that you say it, that does look like could be young Dugan! If your theory turned out to be true then I wouldn't like the stretch of the story, but I'd say the filmmakers did a great job portraying a young Dugan. Last, I think it's hard to say if Kreese, Silver and Dugan are all about the same age. Martin Kove was born in 1946, and Michael Ironside 1950 (not too far off). But Thomas Ian Griffith was actually born in 1962 (in fact, he's actually younger than Ralph Macchio in real life!)... But regardless of how old the actors are in real life, we really don't know how close in age the characters are in the story... I guess all I'm saying here is: the writers do have a lot of freedom there.

[@jcueto75]

I didn’t notice it when I watched season 3, but that’s where they set up the introduction of Colonel Dugan and the Alpha Elite. Not only with the POW camp but also with the parent school board meeting in episode 1. My theory for season 6 is that the Alpha Elite will be brought into West Valley. After reconnecting with Kim Da-Eun, Kreese who is on the run will connect with Colonel Dugan and that will lead to an alliance between the Alpha Elite and Kim Da-Eun’s way of the fist students. And that will lead to Julie Pierce coming in

[@YodaMiyagi]

This would be an interesting to solidify the entire karate kid and Kobra Kai series

[@tnazealot2143]

When Julie Pierce comes back hell ya I want to see Col. Dugan again. He has revenge on his mind still if they decide to keep him as a instructor who has a east coast dojo coming in to the All Valley or some veteran bum on the street that finds out where she is.

[@KenCole]

He definitely seems like the kind to hold grudges 😉

[@patrickwagner98]

I hope there's no relation. Soem fan theories with relationships sound neat, but it's just too coinsidential that all the people across the country and around the world are tied to some little karate tournament.

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

Agree him nor Barnes should be on

[@SwabySean1]

I've been thinking about Colonel Dugan having something to do with Kreese and Silver in Vietnam for the past couple seasons.

[@stormcloud-9369]

He got his redemption in Starship Troopers. “Everyone fights. Nobody quits. If you dont do your job, I’ll shoot you.” Oorahh

[@charlesstevensiii7762]

I was wondering about this for a while

[@Chainsawhappy]

Michael Ironside is a great villain in any movie. Would love to see him in Cobra Kai. Did part 4 take place at a high school? All the students appear to be 30-35.

[@KenCole]

Yes, it was at a "high school" 😆

[@hectorbarbossa4403]

@@KenCole honestly most of the "teens" in movies and series Look to unrealistic or old to be

[@YodaMiyagi]

Love to see Col Dugan team up with Kreese and Barnes and form the new Alpha Elite and get revenge on Silver

[@mitchellcohen3444]

How deep is that pit man? Deep enough, but that ain't the worst of it....

[@kbcinmedusn]

Word has it that Vietnam vets are really not bad guys. Makes me question the integrity of Karate Kid and Cobra Kai.

[@walterbaldemor2128]

Col Dugan is here and Ready to give his Maximum response

[@KenCole]

It would so worth it to have Dugan come back just to say “maximum response.”

[@SlashManEXE]

That flashback was pretty convincing. Wouldn’t be a stretch to include him in a later season. It would have to take some good writing to not feel contrived, though

[@eyalrephaeli6833]

Silver will probably ask Dugan for help once Mike will decline(there is a chance he turned over a new leaf). Silver and Dugan will try to hire Ned(who probably turned over a new leaf aswell). Given Silver's wealth and Dugan's military connections, they will turn Cobra Kai to a youth movement.

[@dakentaijutsu2010]

Um why would Silver ask Dugan for anything? Dugan doesn't know any karate, he was just army combatives, he's obviously less skilled in fighting than both Kreese and Silver, wouldn't make any sense at all!

[@eyalrephaeli6833]

​@@dakentaijutsu2010 Barnes and Randall were both manipulated when they were fighting Miyagi-Do(not different than Johnny or Chozen), so there is a chance that if they return to the Karate Wars, then they will help Miyago Fang. Dugan however, was a mastermind like Kreese and Silver. and Dugan's connection and prestige would help Silver spread Cobra Kai like wildfire.

[@cobrakaiworld23]

Can you do a video about Silver training Robby and Tory

[@KenCole]

Hmmm, interesting. I'd have to think about how to do that without stepping too much onto the future CK S4 story.