Does Final Fantasy V Deserve Its Reputation? A Newcomer's Perspective

FFV might be the least-discussed game in the series, at least in the West. Let's see if it's any good.
Developed and published by Square, Final Fantasy V is a JRPG first released in 1992 for the Super Famicom. It first saw a North American release in 1999 as part of Final Fantasy Anthology for PlayStation.
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[@Ragitsu]

It's the perfect example of a "classic" RPG.

[@fernandojs4074]

This was the first rpg that i actually learned to play and i really enjoyed it. Then i wanted to try ff6 wich claimed to be the best of the classic final fantasies, it was amazing but the ending was kinda lame. Right now i'm playing chrono trigger, i'm almost at the end... and until now it was an amazing game already... but i still think that FFV was the best story and the best ending

[@Ragitsu]

@@fernandojs4074 I think VI was where the complexity of the series started to ramp up _just_ beyond "classic" RPG storytelling.

[@olympusgolemoflight7198]

I think a big reason why people don't talk about this one, is that 4 and 6 not only came to the west when 5 did not, which causes there to be a lot of nostalgia for those two and 7 now that I think about it. Go to almost any review for those three, and you will see a lost of comments about how people grew up with those games, yet with 5 you don't. Five is the best for me, but I grew up on 3 for the DS, so I might be biased. Edit: My younger brother played most of 5 a while back, and his general strategy for bosses was to see what level they were, calculate if he could make it a level of five, then cast Level 5 Death. It was hilarious.

[@rpg_haven]

That's for sure, but I guess I thought by the 2020s most fans who talk about the series on forums and stuff would have played all the games

[@olympusgolemoflight7198]

@@rpg_haven They have, but they either let their nostagia blind them, or they care more about story than gameplay.

[@kingdoge69]

True, FF5 would be just as popular as 4 and 6 if it came out in the US when it originally released instead of releasing in 1999 on ps1, when FF7 and 8 were also out for that system…and from what I hear, FF5 is somewhat popular in Japan, same as how 4 and 6 are in the west I assume

[@Zapdos7471]

Cool kids (read: big nerds) in the 90s played the RPGe fan patch, which has its own interesting place in emulation history. Some of us have nostalgia for FFV! It just can’t be stressed enough how much gaming exploded with the PS1 and FF7.

[@arnifenrenso2940]

I actually grew up on 5 on gba

[@nemoisnobody]

The last of the truest Final Fantasy games, as the purists will tell you. It really does need more love. It's the first one to introduce class-customization and show how fun it can be to break the game! Almost feels like you're cheating!

[@shuboy05]

Final Fantasy V was Hironobu Sakaguchi's final game as director as he switched to series producer with VI. So it was the end of one era of Final Fantasy.

[@reimarc6606]

Yup, Final Fantasy VI was more technology than Magic.😔

[@rabbyd542]

I'm playing pixel remaster right now. I completely forgot that Zenigage is so insanely broken and I love it.

[@j0nnyism]

Yea that was the fun finding all the ways to break the game. Disgea turned that concept into a game

[@al112v4]

Going 3D ruined everything.

[@yoseisovereign6728]

I was hoping to find a more thorough source, but you’re probably right about ExDeath’s treehood being a mythological, or at least cultural reference. There are similar ideas in InuYasha. The main character is a demon who is sealed against a sacred tree (often a feature of Japanese shrines), and the villain is a self-hating conglomeration of demons that spends part of the time in a human shape, and part of the time as a chimeric mass. (Fittingly, the villain was named Naraku, which is the name for the Buddhist version of Hell.) ExDeath would seem to be a combination of these ideas: sealing evil creatures in one spot that was supposed to safely contain them, until they merged with their prison and turned into a walking one-man Hell. This is further illustrated with his final boss form depicting a bunch of horrible creatures spilling free from a twisted trunk. Wouldn’t seem so random to a Japanese audience.

[@rpg_haven]

Nice insights, that makes a little more sense

[@SamuraiGoroh]

It's as you mention, the same idea used in InuYasha were a sacred tree is used to seal spirits, but sealing too many resulted in a monsters (ExDeath here, Naraku in InuYasha). Look up for Shinboku. The tree in question is the one in the 2nd world (Great Forest of Moore) where you fight the crystals. As a curious detail, in World 1 where the seal with the crystals is (near Tule, the first town) is the same place where in world 2 is the Seal Castle (where the 12 legendary weapons are) & in World 3, Exdeath Soul (enemy) appears.

[@RoninCatholic]

Low tech version of "What if the Ghostbusters' containment chamber got so full it became haunted and came to life and started attacking everybody?"

[@peppercatx6470]

Lol, finally someone besides me who pronounces Galuf's name like that XD One thing that people sleep on about this game is funnily enough its story. It has really nice themes about generational conflict, even how the Dawn Warriors leading to the Light Warriors. It is really concise but also doesn't get in the way of the gameplay. This game is like having your JRPG cake and eating it too. This game has spoiled me when it comes to mechanics in JRPGs lol.

[@rpg_haven]

Galuf represent! I lean toward using the Japanese vowels for weird names if it's not otherwise clear how to pronounce them. That just makes sense to me

[@studiodsr]

I feel like nearly everyone who gives this game a chance ends up falling in love with it. I have no doubt that had square released it on snes in the west, it would be way higher on everyone’s list

[@poleon2003]

Yeah honestly the issue for a longtime which was why not many people have experienced FF5 was because we didn't have a accessible competent version of 5 because the original mobile and steam versions were terrible but thankfully with the pixel remasters making the first 6 FFs more accessible than ever hopefully we see more praise for FF5

[@jonothanthrace1530]

@@poleon2003 Not to mention the PSX version's translation was hot garbage.

[@poleon2003]

@@jonothanthrace1530 And it's bad load times as well

[@user-yv2dp3tp8w]

FFV is my favorite Final Fantasy! I love the gameplay and the different combinations involving the job system. For example: equipping a magic user with the Dragoon's Lance ability to deal free magic-based damage that also syphons MP and HP. I also liked the story.

[@thepsychomagus]

I almost have FFV as my favorite but FFVI beats it out to drop it to 2nd place.

[@deedoubs]

@@thepsychomagus I appreciate the scope increase of FF7 just a little too much not to put it as my number one, but FFV and FFVI are #2 and #3 respectively. I feel like people really need to take a minute to appreciate FF7 for its enemies more than anything else. They are all animated (that's crazy coming from a history where every enemy had been a static picture with the occasional picture swap for when an enemy is prepping something unusual). Most of them are in some way ridiculous and just have tons of character. And there are tons of them. More than any other game in the series by a pretty hefty margin. The steals are also some of the most impactful in the series. They even made morph matter when in FF6 it seemed pretty pointless. I also just like FF7's enemy skills more than the blue/lore from V and VI... though I'll admit that might be because they are more game breaking. They are the real stars of the show, not Sephiroth and Cloud.

[@rabbyd542]

I think Bartz is the most under appreciated protagonist in the series. He's one cool dude who works to save the world just on the principal that he needs to have his friends' back. He was completely willing to let go what happened to his dad until he met the old man and Lenna.

[@afanofjustice]

Bartz is cool and stuff it feels like Faris is protagonist of the game

[@Saturns_Return]

Every other member of the group is more of a protagonist than Bartz. He is a nothing character with basically no character development whatsoever, which makes sense because the story doesn't really focus on him at any point. I still like him a lot though, he's like an avatar of the colorful, comedic, and carefree vibe of FFV as a whole. If he wasn't so bad in duodecim he'd probably have been my main

[@valkrieknights]

Despite it's vibrant colors, whimsical atmosphere, and comedy, FFV actually has quite a bit of tragedy. The world is decaying, kingdoms fall, friends are lost, etc. I've started to look at the comedic portions as the characters joking around to keep some kind of motivation to push on.

[@Ragitsu]

A heroic spirit isn't displayed during times of peace; it is displayed during a succession of travails.

[@squidlump]

After playing most of the FFs. Five’s cast is my definite favorite.

[@squidlump]

Exdeath was once a tree where ancient people used to seal away evil spirits. Eventually there were so many evil spirits sealed up in there that the tree turned evil.

[@rpg_haven]

Ahh thanks. It's cool lore, I think the translation makes it seem sillier than it is

[@rpg_haven]

Might have to agree. I'd want to replay XII first though

[@arkknight92]

FF5 is pretty underrated. I remember when they released it in the US on ps1. Loved it since I had played tactics just before this came out!

[@LadyJubelon]

Your videos are so good. I love seeing not only your comments but that you enjoyed these games so much. I've recently played back through many of them myself and it's been nice to reconnect to them.

[@rpg_haven]

Thank you

[@poleon2003]

Honestly I've beaten FFs in order 7, 9, 10, 8 ,3, 1, 4 and 2 atm and currently playing through 5 and before I would've said that 9 is my favorite FF but man even though I haven't beaten 5 yet but it actually already surpassed 9 as my favorite FF because compared to most people in JRPGs I'm actually a gameplay over story kinda player which may sound strange but it isn't to say I don't care for the story but still FF5 has really been such a treat for me

[@rpg_haven]

That's not so strange - I'm more of a gameplay over story guy, too.

[@rhysegozun]

Imo, the job based Final Fantasy titles will always be the most replayable and 5 being the peak of it. The job customization in this game is insane and the story is light hearted and easy to pick up though it has some dark moments, still captures the essence of adventure. Definetely one of the best Final Fantasy games for a new comer to get into then dive into the heavy story based titles like 4, 7 and 10 and save 6 and 9 as best for last.

[@marcosdheleno]

yes, but also no, i would argue that 2 had more of a "job customization" since you could literaly build the characters to play whatever role you wanted, and 3 had the job system. also 7 materia is basically the best of both worlds from 2 and 5, making it a superior version of ff6 mechanically speaking. finally, while i LOVE 5, its one of, if not my favorite of the numbered ff games, i feel like the best version to play is the moded version that rebalanced classes and gives you 2 equipable abilities. as it feels more like ff tactics, giving you alot more options. unfortunately, vanilla ff5 is too limited in that regard. 1 ability slot is too few.

[@Glenningway]

I loved playing V, Bravely Default is a spiritual successor to that game. I've only played BD2 so I hope one day the first will get ported to the Switch at some point.

[@rpg_haven]

Bravely Default looks fun

[@agranosclem]

I really wish they'd port up Bravely Default and Bravely Second

[@Handles_be_dumb]

Exdeath is my favourite antagonist in the whole series. When he turned into a splinter, it was the most explosive reaction I've ever had in a video game.

[@yaboi8167]

Glad to know someone enjoys ff5 and ff12 as much as I do. We have similar taste when I saw the tierlist. I dont like missable stuff so I explore as much as possible before continuing the story. Good thing you didnt mention mix because once you know of its power it makes the game too easy if know how to exploit it. Forcing berserk on bosses who are immune and casting blink will make their physical attacks miss. That gives you plenty of time to mix some dragon power on a x-fight party member and hit all 9's if you mix enough. Forcing berserk on exdeath though was unintended and leads to a never ending fight on his tree form.

[@rpg_haven]

Oh man, I didn't even touch the Chemist. For some reason I shy away from classes that use items like that. Same with Rikku in FFX

[@yaboi8167]

​@@rpg_havenI understand. I would of used it a lot sooner too if the game showed the outcome of a mix with its effects included. I didnt know about it my first playthrough. Gives the game a ton of replay value.

[@iamthehobo]

Ff5 is truly a gem. Played tactics at a young age and to discover the job system is so similar so many years later was mind blowing. Funny and heartfelt, with great customization options and challenges that lend themselves to clever solutions. I don't know when i will replay to try a 4 job fiesta, but i know it won't be long.

[@ShockStormRPG]

FFV was a great game had a awesome job system.

[@gdassspar6nr204]

Ff5 has best monster variety in my opinion

[@Tftapodcast]

As a lifelong FF fan, it nice to find someone who’s new to it and how much they enjoy it too! Great job with your editing and great reading as well!

[@rpg_haven]

Thank you so much!

[@johnnymontalvo5620]

I’m really glad that you liked it this much. It’s probably my favorite FF game. I’m thinking of doing the “Four Job Fiesta” next summer. Sounds fun!

[@michaelclifton9498]

I much prefer job class systems like these that aren't vanilla, meaning that when you choose a job you won't be limited to only that job's abilities and can mix and match abilities from other jobs

[@RoninCatholic]

The reason Exdeath/Exodus is a tree is basically that it was a normal tree with its supernatural life force properties of being a big old tree used to treat it as a prison for evil spirits that were defeated, sealed inside like a genie in a lamp or the like. Basically, eventually the evilness of the evil spirits locked inside the tree corrupted it, and the tree became a self aware being full of demons. The tree is crazy because it's never known any life _but_ being full of the worst demons that human priests could seal away and keep at bay in some way, and it's angry because it's full of angry prisoners.

[@rpg_haven]

Thanks for the explanation. That's actually pretty cool and makes a lot more sense now

[@LavishButtocks]

I played and finished FFV for the first time in 2023, and man oh man was I surprised. The story was interesting, the characters were fun, the job system was fantastic, the two worlds merging was a cool twist... it was just a really good RPG in general. I just wish Galuf didn't get Galuf'd. I liked him a lot more than Krile.

[@HiyokoSupiritto]

I have to say, this game has my favorite themes like Lenna's Theme, Clash on the Big Bridge, all the Exdeath themes, including the Neo Exdeath theme which is my favorite final boss in terms of music

[@unknownuser494]

I agree with your choices but I also like to include "Parting Of Sorrow" and "The Day Will Come", They are also really good.

[@-RogueBlade-]

This was my first FF I ever played growing up; also currently replaying it and it's honestly better than I remember. It's a very mechanically dense game that offers you a wide range of freedom in play style between unique gear aspects, jobs, spells, abilities, and how you pair it all together. Can be a bit grindy at times for AP but the pixel remaster has a x2 modifier that is a perfect sweetspot for rate of progression. Being in the era of remakes, I couldn't help but imagine how incredible an action rpg remake would be with a fleshed out job system; maybe one day square will circle back

[@refeals]

Always great to see more people enjoying FFV

[@WeatherRapport]

My favorite FF

[@TheBuckBratager]

If you're comfortable playing patched ROMs, there's an FFV Advance patch out there that opens up the jobs more quickly (so that the bonus jobs are in the final crystal, not the post game) and makes it so !Fight and !Item can be swapped out for other commands, which I think really enhances the game.

[@rpg_haven]

Thanks, I'll try that patch next time I play V. This playthrough was also on a patched ROM, but just for the translation

[@osurpless]

Hmm, as DonYagamoth’s Necromancer Run revealed, even the !Oath command is overpowered during the First world, so it’s likely Cannoneer and the others favor similar end-game paradigms?

[@GoopyGum]

I'm so glad you mentioned how addictive the gameplay is, when I was working my way through the game, play jrpgs like I'm reading a book every night before bed, I brought my switch with me to work and just did job grinding for fun and looking for treasure. Such a fun RPG that just seems to hit all the marks of a quality game so far back in time where you don't expect it. FFV is probably in my S tier for me. 70 hours on my file

[@crackmonsieur]

Glad to hear you enjoyed the game. I found this to be a Final Fantasy with no real fault just a great game that does everything nicely, and the job system giving it great replayability. Did you play around with Mix or the Beastmaster much? Control and Capture are their own little mechanics that give you a lot of options and interesting solutions and mix can just outright solo the game if you know what your doing. Mixing and matching of the Job System is rightfully praised but one aspect that used to go unoticed was how many classes have their own ways of dealing with the bosses so long as you employ some varied strategies. It's why the Four Job Fiesta way of playing as become quite popular. Have you already done a perspective for FF12? I can't find the video on your channel.

[@rpg_haven]

Hey there, thanks for watching. I didn't try either of those jobs much, except Beastmaster to help learn some Blue magic spells. Safe to say when I play it again I'll have to change everything up I haven't reviewed FF12 yet since I played it back in 2010 or so. Thinking I'll try the Zodiac Age and talk about that at some point

[@crackmonsieur]

@@rpg_haven I saw it on the tierlist and was worried I missed out. One of my favorties alongside 5 & 6.

[@j0nnyism]

Gilgamesh is actually on a bridge in ff12 in the llusu mines. My fav appearance

[@okidokidraws]

I agree with the myth for the transforming tree they used that in Tenchi Muyo with Sasami and Tsunami.

[@tbiramadhan]

My first FF and one of my all time favourite with ton of replay value 🎉

[@steventechno]

I really enjoyed my time with FFV. I played through Pixel remaster and used the Interdenominational Void to max out all classes. When they're all maxed out, All passive abilities are permanently enabled, Fast dash, Thief's reveal path, etcetc. I wound up cheesing Exdeth as all Freelancer with Dual cast and Zeninage since I had throw away Gil. lol

[@sinom]

He turned himself into a splinter. Funniest shit I've ever seen.

[@ZappaSlave]

A Patch? You describe the Four Job Fiesta... But is there a patch for that now? Curious.

[@rpg_haven]

I assumed there was but looks like not. More of a "mental patch" then

[@ZappaSlave]

@@rpg_haven it would've been amazing if it was a randomizer patch for casuals. But hey, it's a currently running charity event, so great time to get his video out!

[@rpg_haven]

@@ZappaSlave Oh nice, that explains why it's getting so many views. I'll have to try that run someday

[@tonypond3970]

The only reason ff5 is underrated is due to the US not getting it until the playstation port...

[@Martyste]

Yo, is this a new fan translation patch to FFV SNES? The thin font and dialogue looks miles better than anything that was done on SNES or PS1 before! Heck this gives the GBA port a run for its money!

[@rpg_haven]

It's the SNES version with the GBA script port patch. I used the "shadowed fonts" version, which looks great.

[@mratzloff]

If you haven't played Final Fantasy Tactics, you would love it. Its job system is adapted and expanded from this game. I don't recall exactly but I think I put nearly 150 hours into that game in order to discover all the hidden jobs and figure out all the game breaking builds, like the Calculator. Tactics is easily the best Final Fantasy game in my opinion. No Blue Mage, but the spiritual sequel (Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, also excellent) has one. Anyway, I just started Final Fantasy V and your description has me excited to get into it!

[@rpg_haven]

Glad to hear you're checking out V. I'm looking forward to Tactics, I'm going to play it after VI

[@veghesther3204]

I love it despite that the SNES one never left Japan.

[@JetSpiegel88]

Just beat ffv today and couldn't agree more with your takes. The job system is where the game truly shines but I don't think there was any one area that was bad. As for the job grinding - there is one square in the ocean where most enemies give you either 8 or 25 abp so that cut down heavily on the tedium. The fact that I had to look up where to grind validates your point, tho.

[@RexCaelestis]

FFV (Advance) was my first Final Fantasy game, so it holds a special place in my heart. Played IV and VI afterwards and can still recall how I disliked the fact that the job system was only in FFV.

[@TheSarias]

Gonna watch the II video next because idk how that can land in A

[@jaykknight2248]

I so so appreciate this video and everyone celebrating in the comments. It's such a special game!

[@GalaxiaShadow]

Off topic but wth is that dialogue font?

[@eastcoasttone3952]

Xenoblade Chronicles 3 recently got me more interested in JRPGs with a class/job system so I think I'll pick up the Pixel remaster version of this game soon.

[@rpg_haven]

Awesome, hope you enjoy it

[@user-dd2lw6rq4x]

that is why i think Sepiroth is so stong besides the whole S cells and Jenova thing he is obviously maxed as a Samuri black and blue and white mage maybe red to tbh

[@modernallie6326]

I'll be back when you do FF6, idk if your saving the best for last .. subbed

[@rpg_haven]

Thanks for the sub. I am-FF15 video coming soon, then 6 after that

[@modernallie6326]

@@rpg_haven also.. you are saving the best for last by the way (imo) .. I wish we had a ff6 3d remake .. enjoy the vids tho

[@mindlessmeat4055]

I am also going through all the main FF games. I have worked my way up to FF8. I really like FF5. I had played it years prior and when I was going through ff3 I couldn't help thinking how much better FF5 was.

[@JRPGGames]

I love FF5! Its such a fun game and has a great job class system.

[@leargamma4912]

I love 5. The jobs system is rewarding, and the bosses are so varied and technical that you can challenge yourself with more or less in any category and still win (the ff5 four job fiesta takes the cake there, holy crap!) The characters are decent and not too deep. Some say this is a negative, but given how some parodies of shows or movies tend to give weird off-handed quirks and personalities to the casts, you can do the same here and fit it around the job system for your own custom adventure. And that's what 5 is. A custom adventure with variety and a side of whimsy. I love 9 as my favorite, but 5 is massively replayable and a blast from start to finish.

[@invisi-bullexploration2374]

I was not aware it HAD a bad reputation. I remember playing a translated ROM before any official release and wondering why I had to violate the law to be able to play such a banger.

[@Karnage420698238]

final fantasy V is one of my all time favorite games not just final fantasy games but it does have a few flaws that hold it back form being 10/10 best game ever like IV the first being blue magic and how much of a pain it is to learn some of the spells i much prefer how the later games do it where all a blue mage had to do was see it used and they learned it second is it has couple of "oh crap i really dont want to deal with this again moments" mainly the events after getting the fire crystal jobs and getting most of the lvl blue magic spells and lastly and my biggest gripe with the game is how long it takes for the final party member to join since their my favorite character in game other than that its amazing it has great characters good story best job class in the series second best antagonist in the series (behind kefka) great cheesable bosses that rewards knowing what your doing status aliments are actually useful and its one of the only two where in the later updated gba ports the bonus content is actual worth doing and fun (other being II with the soul of rebirth) the extra classes sealed cave and cloister of the dead are actual fun unlike the crap in I IV and VI especially VI i already wasnt a fan of the two original split party dungeons in VI and the dragons den is just those but on steroids lol

[@user-dd2lw6rq4x]

you also might like Dragon Quest 9 it vary grndy with many jobs to unlock and max out to make godly op characters.

[@dmdeign7116]

Good video, thanks. Gonna give this game a go on emulator

[@retromaniaco_br7422]

For someone which finished it two times the snes version and one time the gba one, I say it's a classic, fun and damn good rpg. Underappreciated. More people should play it. It's a fantastic journey. And the battle system is top tier.

[@taylorlowder8935]

I like your channel, been watching quite a few of your videos, but I have to say: You have one of the most pants-on-head INSANE FF series tier list I've ever seen. It's like you spun a roulette wheel to determine the positions. I still like hearing your views on the games, but you so have some bizarre tastes.

[@rpg_haven]

Hahah, I'll take it. Thanks for watching

[@pcm2fchris]

dude, this review is a fkin masterpiece. guy is gold!

[@loboneiner1034]

I'm playing it now and glad I finally gave it a chance cause I'm liking it more than 4.

[@jessegarrett6343]

V is my go to when wanting to replay a classic RPG

[@j0nnyism]

Celtic vipes would be bagpipes or maybe a harp

[@chanheosican6636]

Final fantasy 5 was unique hame and I really liked the plot. Also it quite a difficult game.

[@Zapdos7471]

Level doesn’t raise stats but it does affect HP, MP, and almost every damage equation. This makes it a significant challenge to beat the game at a lower level.

[@rpg_haven]

Good to know, thank you

[@ramudon2428]

I thought the reputation was that it's one of the best FF games. Learn something new every day.

[@isidorodaviddoro1920]

I recently started playing the game but quit due to it's difficulty spikes (it all started in the second world and peaked in the island shrine,i might replay it after my final college exams and this time i will specialize the party instead of trying everything since i feel that i was punished for trying everything)the game isn't easy like many people said nor is it super difficult,the game cast isn't bad i loved krile and galluf until that point in the game(bartz,leena and farris are not bad too)and the job system is amazing much better than the psp final fantasy tactics that ruined many jobs(for example white mage is absolutely necessary in FF 5 but in tactics it sucks and is surpassed by the chemist)the balance in that game isn't very good. I also liked exdeath something rare in classical jrpgs to me If you can please reply to my comment i want to know what you think about my points. Edit:fun fact we have the same opinion about final fantasy 2 and 4 to me 2 is better than 4 storywise and character wise

[@rpg_haven]

Agreed, 5 is one of the harder FF games when it comes to getting through the story. Coming up with a plan and sticking to it (unless it doesn't work) is the way to go. It's really all about how much time you want to spend grinding, though. I saw your comment about 4, cool to hear when someone feels the same. A lot of the fervent fandom for it seems to come down to its appeal as a streamlined, almost "JRPG-lite" experience. That's cool, but it didn't make much of impression on me.

[@MacArawn]

My way of beating this one is to max the class level for every char on every class then stick to freelancer for most of the story. It takes a while but the extra levels gained while leveling the classes can make a big difference.

[@isidorodaviddoro1920]

@@MacArawn yeah i noticed this too apparently the freelancer and mimic jobs are the best ones in the game but you need to master the other jobs,the difficulty becomes a matter of how much time you are Willing to put in the game. Edit:my exams finished today so i can now go back to it.

[@chrisrj9871]

By the time Final Fantasy V actually came to the States on FF Anthology, it was after FF4, or "2", after FF6 ("3"), Chrono Trigger, FF7, and we were awaiting FF8. 6 and 7 were highly dramatic, which was carried over from FF4, so many people expected FF5 to be the same, which it mostly wasn't... especially with translation issues like with Faris. It has a Guns n Roses kinda thing where people waited so long for the next album that they sorta stopped caring after the next big thing popped up. Also Final Fantasy 7 brought in a new audience who never played FF on the SNES but because of mass marketing, they had to try it. Those new kids had no interest in sprite graphics from yyears ago. Also, Final Fantasy 4 ranks that low but Final Fantasy 2 ranks that high? Most people who've played the games when they were new would argue against that.

[@rpg_haven]

Thanks for sharing for your perspective. Check out my video on FF2 to hear my thoughts on that one. I think it helps that I played the GBA remake

[@TheSarias]

Nice video, love 5

[@MaskedGuyCh]

FF5 is my favorite game in the series, the gameplay is so addictive and makes for incredible replayability!

[@uncensored6177]

Only played ff3 thru ff9, and ff5 has been my favorite so far. And the most difficult out of the ones i played

[@Starcat5]

"Does Final Fantasy V Deserve Its Reputation? Thumbnail: NO" Oh great, a hit piece against one of the most beloved sprite FFs. **Watches video, hears nothing but praise** ...WTF? Have we simply been living on different corners of the Internet?

[@metalsonic8888]

Right? That's what I clicked on to find out about. As far as I was aware people were at worst neutral on FFV. In my opinion it's underrated, but I've never been under the impression that it has a bad reputation

[@rpg_haven]

Usually I talk more about the reputation at the start of these videos, but I kinda forgot to do that for this one. My bad. Before playing it, it always seemed like FFV was lesser known and generally not considered one of the greats, while I absolutely think it is. I feel like most people don't bother playing V because it doesn't get much hype, and that sucks.

[@sakurikunikai7564]

gba version was super glitchy it constantly resetted all the progress and the other one had bad translation last time i played, pixel remaster probably best way to play it

[@wingusdingus9447]

I liked breaking the game combat wise. Would've been nice to have optional dungeons to play in that nothing except severely broken can survive in.

[@somecommonsense4647]

Final Fantasy 5 for me is the best Final Fantasy the only two I would consider close seconds would be Final Fantasy 2 and Final Fantasy 15. The story is fantastic yeah it's still condensed enough that it doesn't precede the gameplay, the characters have enough backstory and feel fleshed out enough, and the refined job system is just perfect. I know a lot of people grew up with six and seven, but I personally feel that six has horrible pacing and could definitely use a remaster of some kind. It's not a bad game, its story is excellent but I think it could have waited a generation or so before coming to fruition. Final Fantasy 7 is a great game but for me it has a terrible endgame. Which makes completing the game tedious after you've done everything, and no I don't count the weapons as a good finale to the game as you really have to grind and play as meta as possible. They are great games but they could have been better, Hence the reason seven has had so many remasters. But five not only had great combat, but a solid endgame to which you could grind freely and happily with plenty extra to do, and it had a solid story that didn't take over gameplay. The job system was refined to its pinnacle with almost no flaws to its creation. You could play hundreds of different party combinations and for turn-based game to allow that much freedom is hard to do. And not to mention since it doesn't take itself too seriously most of the time it's relaxing to just play it to completion. When the game does challenge you it challenges you well and pretty much fairly, with a few exceptions do having to play as precise as possible for certain enemies. For me I don't think a turn-based game has entertained me quite like five. It's hard to balance turn-based games in general, and five did it as well as you possibly could. I think that's why they haven't remastered it quite yet because it's so perfect, and the reason 6 probably hasn't had one except for the pixel remasters is because a lot of people think that game is perfect as well. And while I don't think six is perfect, the fact that 5 and 6 haven't had a remastered and people still love these games to death should show how much care and love went into them in the first place.❤

[@rpg_haven]

I enjoyed reading your analysis. Haven't played 6 yet so I can't comment on that, but I agree 7 has some pacing problems. And that 5 has the best job system in the series.

[@somecommonsense4647]

​​@@rpg_havenyeah five has my favorite combat in the series, perfectly flexible with plenty of options in combat and a plethora of items and gear found throughout the world. Making set ups and figuring out the perfect playstyle that fits you is unlike any other old school turn-based Final Fantasy. Unfortunately only Final Fantasy 15 and world of Final Fantasy Maxima are they only modern Final Fantasy that I find interesting. World of Final Fantasy being probably the only modern Final Fantasy with a story that I never skipped on my first playthrough. It's like Final Fantasy meets isekai in a Pokemon world. I'm actually thinking of putting Final Fantasy World on the top, as well I love all the others world is the most easy to get into and just replay after you get past the extremely long tutorial.

[@olavi_liikanen]

Amazing game! ❤

[@bahamutskingdom]

I will say that the story was slightly....slow. But it is funny as hell. And the game is just.....so....damn...much....fun! It is not the masterpiece story driven epics of IV, VI, or VII. There is just so much to do and see. Side questing galore, and the job system is the peak of Final Fantasy job system. I love the hell out of this game.

[@suiken3149]

I miss the quirky mainline FFs. The last one we have one is IX. I'm getting tired of the edgefest which later FFs ramped up

[@DoctorPlato]

Should check out FF14

[@RubianGaming]

The only reputation I have ever heard about 5 is that it's the best of the classic FF's due to the job system depth. Which is correct.

[@robbyrobot3303]

In Japan V has a much better reputation

[@carlosescalante9909]

When I first played ff anthology I liked 5 a whole lot better then 6

[@CarlosSilva-bh4bi]

"A new comer's view" bro, I litterally played it as my first FF game and the ambientation/rythm of this game beats FF6 and 4 for two reasons - Its not too edgy - Explains all fucking characters (exept Enuo by disgrace)

[@rpg_haven]

I agree on IV. FFV does everything better than that game. Haven't played VI yet

[@Romangelo]

FFV is probably the most "Final Fantasy"-ish Final Fantasy. You have everything a FF game supposed to have in this one masterpiece game. It's almost like an insult when FF16 producer said that FF16's gameplay was inspired by FF5's... If anything, FF16 is the least customizable FF game I've ever played.

[@thepsychomagus]

This is definitely an S tier FF game and is 2nd among all the FF games for me. The only one that I put ahead of it is FFVI.

[@geopowered]

Maybe I'm not on forums enough, but in my circles everyone likes FFV and recognizes it for starting many of the long term trends of the series. So when I saw your title and the big "NO" on the thumbnail, I was ready to hear why you don't like it. Left me confused and surprised when you explained how much you ultimately enjoyed it.

[@rpg_haven]

Hahah, gotta work that algorithm somehow. For real tho, I think most people just haven't played it

[@ElWeyDeGorra]

n0ice

[@seansullivan7928]

Only after you beat it

[@fargoretro]

final fantasy five four job fiesta ( for charity )

[@ninjabluefyre3815]

Guh-loof?!

[@rpg_haven]

I always just use Japanese vowel pronunciations for names in JRPGs, and indeed, in Japanese he's "Garafu". Stressing the first syllable might sound better, though. How do you say it?

[@ninjabluefyre3815]

​@@rpg_havenGAL-uhf

[@Tinandel]

FF5 had an awful story and weak characters. It also had a FANTASTIC combat system and a really unique and fun-to-explore world. Honestly, the best character in FF5 is the setting itself. Just wandering around learning and powering up, is truly awesome.

[@deedoubs]

> grinding AP got monotonous > has X-fight when going against mid-game enemies Uh... pretty sure that's your fault.

[@rpg_haven]

I don't understand what you mean.

[@deedoubs]

@@rpg_haven You were dramatically overbuilt for where you were at. You pretty much have to sit at the bottom of Val Castle for an hour grinding statues to unlock X-Fight.

[@rpg_haven]

@@deedoubs Right, that's what I did.

[@judgeofarchetypes6103]

In a nutshell it's basically just a better 3 lol

[@rowanmorris2187]

Algorithm

[@CarlosSilva-bh4bi]

FF5 was my third FF, and gonna say it, ur wrong, I have not seen the video, but this thing lacked what FF6 lacked and put it out of inperfection, the limit on the Edgyness, the villian had a reason to be and the characters had development with each other on camera, and were tragic, but stopped crying after a time

[@reimarc6606]

Idc FFTA, FFT, FFV, FFIV is my favorite

[@markellzey1531]

This is easily the weakest story of the three Final Fantasy games on the SNES but it might be the best combat system. Jobs are so much fun.

[@KrGsMrNKusinagi0]

I think 5 is ok but 3 and 4 way better and 6 of course better

[@unknownuser494]

Honestly, i found ff5 story better than ff4 because it's doesn't do fake death like ff4 and it also ruin the entire game for me.

[@danceswithchihuahuas]

Came by to respond to your “NO” with a downvote, I didn’t watch

[@rpg_haven]

So you didn't like the game?

[@danceswithchihuahuas]

@@rpg_haven I loved it, the question is “Does it deserve its reputation?” And your video flashes “NO” in big letters Bye

[@rpg_haven]

@@danceswithchihuahuas What do you think FFV's reputation is?

[@danceswithchihuahuas]

@@rpg_haven I don’t care what your game is, I’m not here to hash it out with you either

[@rpg_haven]

@@danceswithchihuahuas Oh. Well, you could try watching the video instead. It's one of my most popular and has a lot of likes. I explain in the first few minutes what I think the game's reputation is and why it deserves more praise.

[@sumarian79]

V is ok its just not as good as IV or VI

[@zyxyuv1650]

I got to the Crescent Island with the Chocobos and then the script stopped working. I exhausted every possibility on the island then ran around the whole map for hours and nothing would activate any story event. I gave up and never played again. I don't enjoy these linear games where you run around endlessly trying to figure out why the game is stuck. The job system didn't matter because the combat was not challenging enough for there to be much actual gameplay, I was mostly pressing A, A, A, A, A over and over. The story was an F. This game is a D tier for me.