Does Fish Oil Increase Risk of Atrial Fibrillation (AFib)? - Rhonda Patrick

In this video, Rhonda discusses:
• Her thoughts on the following study claiming people taking fish oil have an increased risk of atrial fibrillation and stroke: bmjmedicine.bm...
• The difference between relative & absolute risk when it comes to fish oil & AFib
• Why, even if fish oil increases AFib risk, it also lowers risk of coronary heart disease, kidney stones, liver cancer, dementia, cardiovascular-related morality, and all-cause mortality
• Why she doesn't recommend free fatty acid form omega-3
• Her omega-3/fish oil intake recommendations given the totality of the scientific evidence
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[@FoundMyFitnessClips]

After watching the video, you'll see why I'm still super bullish on omega-3. Learn how to choose the right fish oil supplement in our free guide: fmfomega3guide.com/

[@yellads]

I ate fish, mainly salmon, but also cod everyday for a month until I felt a tickle in my left upper chest for two or three nights... I stopped and its gone. Yes it is dose dependent. Don't over do it.

[@WollyFatboy]

@@yellads A self diagnosis, eh?

[@yellads]

@@WollyFatboy Of course I cannot say for sure, but just thought it worth mentioning. Thing is it stopped when I stopped eating the salmon. There is a recommendation that you only eat fatty fish twice a week, so guess that is why.

[@foljs5858]

@@WollyFatboy "A self diagnosis, eh?" You mean like whether he can notice that the fire is hot and get their hand off without needing an official diagnosis of a third degree burn first? Yes he can, he's not an idiot, not to be able to understand some peristent signs of their body, even if they don't have a paper signed from a doctor. Even if it's not 100% accurate, medical diagnosis is far from 100% accurate either. People should also be able to see and interpret some signs for themselves, not just rely on their ocassional checkup or rush to the doctor when it's too late.

[@WollyFatboy]

@@foljs5858

[@Fish-please]

The answer comes at 05:45

[@michaelkim4703]

Thank you. Don't need to listen for so long

[@dgiles2560]

I like her eyes. Never sure what she's talking about.

[@DG-EditsYT]

I zoom in on them ​@@dgiles2560

[@stevenellis7492]

You're a hero

[@hw534]

Saint

[@LenPincott]

Thanks Rhonda, it is so good to listen to an "Honest Person" with no personal agenda, please keep it real.

[@cosy1914]

the biggest thing we really appreciate in all of this is your honesty when it comes to recommendations. Thanks so much as this is a very serious subject.

[@donmulder8061]

In 2023 I had my first episode of Afib ever. It was preceded by a period of occasional, brief flutter sensations. At the time I was on regular, daily creatine supplementation, daily Berberine supplementation on a somewhat high dose (while also taking metoprolol for protective reasons related to a prolonged ECG interval) and taking two to three 1,000 MG fish oil capsules daily in addition to two or three shots of extra virgin olive oil. After cardioversion, and restoration of sinus rhythm, I stopped Berberine but returned to the creatine. I then went a year without Afib but got it again with only the creatine (having stopped fish oil). Another successful cardioversion and have stopped creatine as well and my heart is free of any flutter sensations and no Afib. I think all the Omega 3 I was taking and the creatine was causing it.

[@Jason31256]

Yep. I react really badly to creatine and the last time I had heart flutters was after taking fish oil for a few days

[@joenabbi1214]

Rhonda thank you for your honorability in bringing up these helps. You are providing a great service to those trying to avoid drugs and optimizing their health.

[@msagoo29]

I'm more worried about fish oil sitting on shelves for months and in warm conditions aiding its oxidation. I prefer to eat fresh salmon.

[@Fred-zt5ky]

yup same here, that’s the main reason i stopped taking fish oil supplements. Instead i make sure to eat fresh salmon and sardines a few times a wekl

[@change-my-minds]

Would it oxidate inside of the gelatin capsules?

[@edwardgrabinsky]

​@change-my-minds well oxidization requires... oxygen. So something in a sealed plastic bottle in a gel cap is pretty stable. Obviously, storage temps still mater a lot. But a lot of the oxydization comes from manufacturing. Some modern practices involve filling the mixing tanks with innert gas to prevent that. Once opened the syrups oxidize faster than gell caps. There's actually a lot that goes into this in the pharmaceutical industry.

[@SullivanKelly85]

​@@edwardgrabinskyAlso light

[@SullivanKelly85]

​@@edwardgrabinskyI know they sound the same but oxygen has nothing to do with oxidation.

[@lisapet160]

Endurance athletes have higher risk of AFib and at the same time lower mortality risk, including dying from stroke. 4:50 That means they might have health issues, trying to alleviate with supplements, therefore are willing to participate in the study. Same was happening in the studies related to healthy dosage of alcohol, where control groups were overpopulated with chronically ill participants, drug users and former alcoholics. Once these individuals were removed from the analysis, the healthiest alcohol consumption turned out to be no consumption at all.

[@sar4x474]

See headline: “Oh no! I have to stop taking fish oil supplements.” Watch Ronda’s detailed analysis: “Naw, I’ll keep taking it.” Thank you!

[@LongevityLabYT]

As a fellow health KZbinr, I appreciate the insights shared in this video by Rhonda Patrick regarding the potential risks of fish oil supplements. It's crucial to approach such topics with a nuanced understanding, especially given the conflicting research surrounding omega-3 fatty acids. One important aspect to consider is the type of omega-3s being consumed. EPA and DHA, the primary components found in fish oil, have been shown to have various cardiovascular benefits, including anti-inflammatory properties. However, the source of these omega-3s-whether from fish oil supplements or whole food sources like fatty fish-can significantly impact their effects on heart health. Additionally, it's worth noting that individual responses to supplements can vary widely based on genetics, existing health conditions, and lifestyle factors. For instance, individuals with pre-existing cardiovascular issues may react differently to fish oil than those without such conditions. Moreover, while the study mentioned in the video raises valid concerns, it's essential to look at the broader body of evidence. Many studies have indicated that omega-3 supplementation can lower triglyceride levels and may even reduce the risk of certain heart conditions when taken appropriately. In conclusion, while it's wise to be cautious about supplement use, especially in light of new research, I believe that fish oil can still play a beneficial role in a balanced diet for many individuals. As always, consulting with a healthcare professional before making any significant changes to supplement intake is advisable. Thank you, Rhonda, for shedding light on this important topic!

[@ChristopherDowhaniuk]

Took a dry blood spot test for my Omega balance. Went from 25-1 to 3.6-1 in 28 days, Index from 2.5% to 4.9%. I am going to keep on keeping on with my balance oil. Thanks for you info.

[@Photovintageguy]

We had an 70 years old relative that could not take omega products. It acted like speed, racing heart. They started walking fast around the block with their walker, and no this wasn't normal. We stopped the supplements and it stopped. This person had an existing irregular heart beat problem.she lived till 90 btw, not related to heart problems, kidney medicine, caused thyroid cancer, but kept her off dialysis for 10 years.

[@mrbuckmeister]

Just watched the video. Rhonda does an excellent job breaking down the weak basis for the reported conclusions. It must be very frustrating needing to regularly push back on these over dramatized "findings" that people don't dig into more thoughtfully. Maybe we need to teach research methods more universally. We need much higher critical thinking skills.

[@kurtniznik8116]

Imagine if advertising dollars went to thoughful analyses and nuanced conclusions instead of sensationalism. Yeah that will never happen.

[@cliftonnobles5600]

It's almost as if any time a compound or protocol has been in the news a lot recently for it's positive (or negative) outcomes - someone comes along and publishes something claiming the opposite during the peak of conversation around it.

[@mtollmaster3747]

Bingo

[@MultiWeen]

Actually being healthy is not profitable. You can smell the incoming bias on alot of these studies once you've read enough of them.

[@peterbedford2610]

Yup

[@gman_1985]

Anything seen to be benefitting the general populations health needs to be shut down!! The public must be protected for danger of getting healthy. Only processed foods and pharmaceuticals can truly benefit the general populous.

[@jorgegonzales4153]

Yup, the usual and 3:28 customary protocol and agenda of big pharma’s mal-information machine. Like aspirin is good but maybe we sell a different aspirin like med for $700 more….

[@lindaburchell-fp6sk]

I'm old and diabetic after I started taking 2000 mg krill oil my memory got alot better.

[@elinope4745]

I think people should consider the very likely possibility that the quality of fish oil has significantly dropped in the last ten years. The economic crunch has gotten many companies to do less than ethical things to keep from going bankrupt. They had to choose between moral or economic bankruptcy.

[@viracocha2021]

I can confirm that I have arrhythmias if I have been ingesting 2g/day. It’s not placebo because I discover it before all these studies. Right now, I’m switching to only DHA, let’s see how it goes.

[@joenabbi1214]

Me ditto on that one! I've been a EPA DHA user for 10 years now and getting irregular heart beats. I think I have other issue going on but I did make the switch to higher DHA because I need it for my Brain. ALSO I saw another KZbin that talked about having more Omega 6 to balance and since I am almost 0 on the 6's I started using Borage Oil caps and that seems to help quite a lot! The theory is that on a cellular level there are 6's present more than the 3's so therefore the Imbalance. So the best 6's to take is Borage Oil due to the quality of fatty acid components. Anyway my heart is running much smoother now and I hope this serves as some help to someone.

[@5456645]

Same for me. I tried for so long to find an alternative explanantiom but, finally i had to admit it was the omega3. Im down to 1g every other day with no issue

[@joenabbi1214]

OK I figured out the most likely other issue I mentioned and it has nothing to do with my arrythmia so I think the Borage Oil is really worth a try if you need a next option, it works for me but I seem to need to at least match the amount to the EPA DHA buy also I will try going high DHA And see how that goes. Don't forget though, any change might not be immediate positive results and may take some time. Also thanks @5456645

[@joenabbi1214]

@@5456645 Thanks and please let us know any changes if you would?

[@smokesgtp]

But are these just irregular beats or confirmed a-fib? Almost everyone has some form of benign irregular beats daily.

[@maherbarsoum9831]

It indeed caused me AFIB. I used to take 4 grams per day. Not anymore!

[@JennyAndAlex]

The way people twist the cherry-picked results of this kind of study is really unfortunate and does a disservice to all of us who are seeking the truth. Thanks Rhonda for helping to set the record straight about the real benefits of Omega 3s.

[@xmav0065]

I've been taking fish oils since I was 42, I'm 58 now and I've had no issues whatsoever.

[@orion9k]

My fishoil consumption were giving me weird heart beats that went away after 3-5 days of stopping consumption. After seeing one of your old videos last year, one of your guests said that Omega3 fish oil was most beneficial if we were getting at least 1 gram of DHA and 1 gram of EPA per day, this meant I had to consume 6 grams of fish oil per day, because the capsules I had, only had 180mg DHA and 220mg EPA per capsules.

[@orion9k]

I do miss the other positive effects I got from taking the fish oil, like almost never brainfog and bone pains went away when taking omega3.

[@zoltar2342]

Omega Avail 2 capsules yields 800 mg of each. Designs for Health product. Expensive but will get you where you need to be

[@earlkoropatnick1928]

Thank you Rhonda. I have been waiting for your input.

[@lamb-in-Christ]

Histamine in Fish oil can trigger cardiac mast cells in susceptible people (people with MCAS/MCAD). The remedy for me is H1/H2 blockers, mast cell stabilizers, mag taurate, and 2 rounds of 10 minutes of 4-7-8 breathing to jump start the vagus.

[@MartialGolf]

Thank you so much for clarifying this data!!!!

[@meditim2032]

Anything the Government say to eat i just do the opposite. I recommend reading “Health and Beauty Mastery” that book is a real eye opener about shocking stuff health industry is doing! I completely changed my habits

[@mikaelajasonnn3]

Exactly!

[@FireOElijahMC]

I got it, truly a good book

[@BigQuadsOnCampus]

🤖

[@zacharysherry2910]

Lol. Russia wants you to eat vodka

[@martinlutherkingjr.5582]

Same goes for money - buy some Bitcoin!

[@Nikcel72]

Thanks so much for addressing this question!

[@historicallyintriguing-q2p]

Thank you for this information

[@Red_AIert]

You and professor Huberman are so helpful and appreciated. Thank you ma’am! 🙏🏼

[@prepsmartz2793]

Have you researched CardioTabs for Omega 3? It was developed by a preventive cardiologist in Kansas City.

[@lawrenceweinzimer]

Dr. Rhonda's exhortation about Omega 3's is solid. Keep enjoying fish and shellfish, seaweed, herbs - each in relative moderation. To paraphrase my father: '..living is dangerous..' He smoked, drank, did Valium before heart meds 😮. Enough said.

[@jasoneickmeier114]

Anecdotally I believe this. Over a short period of time I had a couple of occurrences where during a zone 2 workout my heart rate jumped almost instantly from 130 to 210 BPM, stayed like that for a minute or two and then dropped back down. After reading that omega 3 supplementation could cause that, i dropped my dose in half to around 2 grams and it hasn't happened again in 2.5 years.

[@MJ-hl1kk]

Relative risk can be extremely misleading; always consider absolute risk.

[@Jinnyjammywhammy]

IDGAF what the "study" says... I 100% care who conducted the study, who paid for the study. The longest lived people IN THE WORLD eat TONS OF OMEGA3s...get TONS OF ALA...have the HEALTHIEST HEARTS

[@mrmacguffin6886]

A very simplistic way to look at things. There is a very large quantity of variables that determine lifespan, and as long as many of them come together, you can get away with doing harmful things whilst still remaining healthier. That’s not to say that ALA or EPA or DHA are bad, they are great for you. However, just looking at country or regional data and making conclusions about the effectiveness of a single dietary variable based on their lifespan is intellectually lazy at best and ignorant at worst.

[@Jinnyjammywhammy]

@@mrmacguffin6886 lol... you can't even use large enough words to sound pseudointellectual. Occam's razor my friend. The simplest answer is the right answer

[@heathermunoz6282]

​@@mrmacguffin6886True

[@heathermunoz6282]

​@@JinnyjammywhammyWell, maybe he felt like saying more on this day. Geeze.

[@kurtniznik8116]

I think Hong Kong ranks among the top for life expectancy. They eat tons of meat, and they smoke like chimneys.

[@RomanDvorak-jk4to]

I really needed this.

[@Carlos-od7jr]

I listened to you by taking 2,000mg of fishoil a day for a month straight and the EPA in the fish oil made me feel fatigued and raise my blood pressure I finally got off of them Thanksgiving day and I feel way better

[@anthonym3351]

Same I took cod liver oil it made me fatigued, a small dose may work better.

[@Carlos-od7jr]

@anthonym3351 I Google it takes 2/3 weeks to get outta your system today has been 2 weeks exactly my blood pressure was 115/80 but also I been taking hibiscus tea I'm still a Lil bit fatigue, how long til you went fatigue

[@gkarthikraja1890]

I have a doubt. What exactly is causing Afib? EPA and DHA or fish oil?

[@MrPaulSF]

Thank you Rhonda 😊

[@JohnnnyMojo]

Personally with my anecdotal experience, I no longer take any fish oil in supplement form. I was taking a very high quality high EPA form and I developed AFib while on it. It's not worth the risk for me and I think that dietary intake of omega 3s is the much better and safer road to take.

[@HomeEngineer-wm5fg]

Same here. I have A-Fib caused from fish oils. I know because I stopped taking them and my afib went away.

[@markusantonious8192]

I've been taking 5 to 7 grams of fish oil for 15 years or more; no problems. I was taking 3 grams but noticed my inflammation went down considerably, i.e., following playing tennis, once I increased the amount (I am now 71). I rather suspect that, as per usual, it depends on individual physiology and risk factors.....though, as Rhonda has taken pains to emphasize here, the nay saying seems designed to frighten, and to steer people away from a patently healthy supplement. This goes hand in hand with all the other mainstream medical attempts to fear monger against everything from Vit. D to intermittent fasting (Remember the 'paper' that recently came out purporting to prove that IF increased mortality by 95%!!....Total, unmitigated nonsense and pro-Pharma propaganda). These amount to a concerted campaign by the usual suspects to denigrate truly beneficial - and often cheap, and usually highly effective - supplements or health strategies.

[@Macgee826]

Im taking what shes saying and going with the exact opposite .your absolutely spot on!

[@zeyadsharaiha]

Hi always enjoy your Podcasts. What is high dose

[@iconic1758]

Omega 3 for hormone positive breast cancer? Is it safe?

[@chazwyman]

The sort of confounding factor might be something like this - Why do people take fish oil. Maybe they have Afib in the family and take it for preventative health reasons. So the fish oil may not be causal only correlative.

[@rokmin8550]

I left boxing at age 28 because of suspected neurological reasons and since maybe 29 until now (37) I've been taking about 7g/day (total omega 3) daily from fish oil for the neurological effects not so much cardiovascular which I think are good and I haven't noticed any kind of Afib or anything negative at all. I know one person doesn't mean anything but I just thought I'd put that out there.

[@mikeespo7728]

Curious how that's working out for you, with regards to neurological effects.. I'm guessing, due to Boxing, you might have experienced some issues in the cervical area C5-C6 ...maybe a herniated disc ... minor tear/scaring on the spinal cord .. Wondering, Have large dose's of omega 3's helped with the healing process...are you feeling better? Personally****I played racquetball at a championship level for 30 yrs .. had to have an ACDF at that level and feel like I never really recovered and have started taking 4gms a day

[@rokmin8550]

@@mikeespo7728 thanks for your interest...apparently I have a form of dysphemia (stuttering) although I don't stutter, its like my mind goes blank for a few seconds and I can't find the right word. If I can speak in short statements its not noticeable but if I have to talk continuously then you can tell. I can't say if the fish oil has done anything but I haven't gotten any worse. I'm good everywhere else.

[@JasonBuckman]

Does full fish such as salmon or canned sardines increase risk?

[@Slopo777]

Thank you! Question: 2g/day Omega-3 supplementation plus what I get from a daily can of sardines in water? Or is it 2g total, including sardines? Thanks again!

[@MuhammadAli-ek9jp]

3 months ago I had a bad reaction ... took 1 fish oil capsule had an erratic heart beat ended going to hospital although was given the all clear ... stopped taking them.

[@helios4425]

Everybody talking about the omega 3 but forget about the magnesium link to a fib. Is there a study that shows high omega and nornal to high magnesium causes a fib?

[@HomeEngineer-wm5fg]

I have afib, only fish oil supplements agitate it.

[@fishnski9211]

Magnesium 90% stopped my irregular heartbeats

[@cooly4831]

Really helpful video. Thank you.

[@jhakku1401]

I took fish oil and developed Afib

[@charleswalton5132]

One big factor that was not considered in this test was alcohol consumption.

[@colincline7641]

It took me a year and 10ish brands of fish oil before I found one that made me feel better, not worse. I don’t know how often the researchers control for rancidity, but the one I found that works is extracted with supercritical CO2, stored in the freezer, and shipped with an ice pack. As a sensitive person, “acceptable” levels of rancidity were still too much for me. I hope fish oil rancidity is more researched in the future if it’s not right now!

[@AsiHassan]

Can I ask for the brand please?

[@jamescarlson486]

Is there any proposed mechanism on how fish oil disrupts the heart’s electrical system?

[@SMM60614]

When I took a triple strength omega 3 supplement (1g) and ate salmon on the same day I would get heart palpitations and in a few instances afib. As long as I stay below 1g I seem to be ok (I switched to a lower dose supplement).

[@BeastForever9]

Mam plz reply does vegan omega 3 supplement causes afib .?

[@mnyshrpknvs]

I'll continue to take Nordic Naturals Cod Liver Oil

[@DrAJ_LatinAmerica]

All of these trials need to be RCT's (lock and key). Environment, activity levels, hydration, nutrition, sleep, sexual relations, stress are all factors. Control the participants and we can properly answer these questions

[@robblankenstein6825]

I like mussels, high in B12, and they seem to improve my sleep stats the night I have them. Perhaps that will fade with time as I keep eating them though? Easy for me to get as well in little tubs with good shelf life.

[@mattparr3038]

Bottom line, if your in good metabolic health, have a good diet, taking codliver oil occasionally increases HDL. It worked for me, you want more of that than ldl. I only take a capsule once twice of week. Have done for 3 months.

[@jeffreydanilin6216]

Phenomenal video

[@SpurOne76]

I take flax seed oil rather than fish oil. Is that better?

[@jozefien1702]

I am still confused about the one thing and that is i get that supplements can give problems but what about eating actual fish? Can that also give problems?

[@Deadlift750]

Men, find a woman that talks about you the way rhonda talks about fish oil.

[@boxerfencer]

Lol!!

[@heathermunoz6282]

😅

[@MrDjhealth]

Lol, every woman I talk too about health and bio hacks says I am psycho

[@wread1982]

@@MrDjhealth😂😂😂😂

[@DG-EditsYT]

I don't know about that

[@Bleed242]

I stopped taking some brands for this exact reason. Crazy palpitations. Fermented CLO works well up to 6 ml per day. YMMV

[@johnnyd614]

Doesn’t seem to bother Eskimos.

[@gab8290]

Please you'd do a podcast with Paul Saladino.

[@malagoke]

I took 10ml of cod liver oil for months until I had an event of atrial fibrillation. I know I might have genetic dispositions concerning overall heart health. I tried varying the dose and while I had another event after drinking a large amount of slightly salted water, I now reduced the overall intake by 1/3 and don't have problems any more.

[@malagoke]

It's most likely that for a specific cohorte the risk is much higher, though! Of course, if you average over total population, the relative risk shrinks drastically. But we need more data to confirm this.

[@arkhurdler7308]

Question: What about me who was diagnosed with AFib, then had an ablation that removed the AFib symptoms. Do I face a renewed risk of Afib if I take 3g of fish oil a day? I understand that there are benefits towards the other health markers you mentioned, I'm just not keen on another increase in stroke risk. Regards W.

[@sirwalksoftly]

I'm at 8.1% as of a week ago! Would you advise to maintain these levels to continue 2g/day of fish oil?

[@bertcollard6619]

Good video

[@Biohacker24]

I take 12g fish oil per day and eat sardines daily with no afib. EPA/DHA intake is ~8g per day and I consume other omega 3 from plant sources as well

[@MoniPaoA]

Are you mercury levels high?

[@Biohacker24]

@@MoniPaoA I have not tested them

[@MoniPaoA]

@Biohacker24 too much fish can lead you to have high levels of mercury. To prevent this, I don't consume fish or fish oil every day. I replace my omegas with eggs that have omegas, milk that also have omegas-dha, flax, and chia "grounded" (to prevent appendicitis) seeds. Each day, different foods with omegas. DHA is amazing for the brain, and the heart is safe to take daily. Sardines are very low in mercury, the bigger fish are not since they eat other fishes, their mercury intake is greater, so your oil, if it is not from small fish, can contain high levels of mercury.

[@MoniPaoA]

@Biohacker24 too much fish can lead you to have high levels of mercury. To prevent this, I don't consume fish or fish oil every day. I replace my omegas with eggs that have omegas, milk that also have omegas-dha, flax, and chia "grounded" (to prevent appendicitis) seeds. Each day, different foods with omegas. DHA is amazing for the brain, and the heart is safe to take daily. Sardines are very low in mercury, the bigger fish are not since they eat other fishes, their mercury intake is greater, so your oil, if it is not from small fish, can contain high levels of mercury.

[@MoniPaoA]

@Biohacker24 too much fish can lead you to have high levels of mercury. To prevent this, I don't consume fish or fish oil every day. I replace my omegas with eggs that have omegas, milk that also have omegas-dha, flax, and chia "grounded" (to prevent appendicitis) seeds. Each day, different foods with omegas. DHA is amazing for the brain, and the heart is safe to take daily. Sardines are very low in mercury, the bigger fish are not since they eat other fishes, their mercury intake is greater, so your oil, if it is not from small fish, can contain high levels of mercury.

[@neilgunns8391]

I believe it does cause it. I was taking it for years, but now I switched to cod liver oil and I notice a difference. 🤷‍♂️

[@NeilM-v5z]

And the link between omega3 supplementation and prostate cancer??

[@michellet1800]

Should we worry about rancid fish oil even in the good brands like Nordic naturals??

[@seabiscuitandhoney]

Untreated Sleep Apnea is definitely linked to an increase in A-Fib. I know the mask is a pain, but it's worth it.

[@benardnamukobe8289]

How's it treated

[@paulhailey2537]

Mine was Caused by low Electrolytes . Salt , Magnesium and Potassium Supplements Cured my aFIB

[@paulwood4142]

I used to take 2 grams a day fish oil and had heart palpitations, maybe it was afib but it was a bit concearning every time it happened, its like your heart stops for a split second and then does like a double beat or something? Anyway I stopped taking them after I read that study a few months back and they went away! I take maybe 1 1000mg pill a week now.

[@leemcdermott1770]

They were ectopic beats

[@VeganLinked]

what about someone like me who has zero cardiovascular risks, low triglycerides, low LDL, etc... on a very anti-inflammatory diet, perfect BP/heart rate, is there any evidence that vegans for example need to even take a supplement (algae of course)? Is there any evidence that the omega index test reflects anything meaningful for brain and heart health? Where is the evidence that I need to be in a particular omega test range when my other biomarkers are excellent? It's my understanding there is no conclusive evidence linking omega levels to brain or heart health in vegans. Yet there's solid evidence for other things like lack of sleep increasing tau proteins, amyloid plaques, etc... even fasting helps.

[@VeganLinked]

in other words, you're citing reduced risk with supplementation for issues that vegans already have a reduced risk for.

[@stevenrobertson4190]

What are free fatty acid, ethyl ester and try glyceride forms? I keep on hearing these terms but what are they? Which form is the liquid fish oil itself that you take in spoonfuls from a bottle and then the capsule form? I look on the bottles and packaging in the UK but cannot find these terms.

[@kyles5513]

I take krill oil, shoud make a video on that.

[@bhut1571]

Interesting to look at populations like the Innuit that have always ingested a high proporton of omega 3's. Do they have less genetic propensity for afib; folks with thos genes such as TTN mutations would have less chance to tend to their off-spring. As and avid backpacker, canoeist and snow-shoer it was debilitating to developed afib at age 76. I've always been fond of sardines eating them for 3 or 4 lunches each week in addition to having a nice feast of salmon once or twice a week for supper. I've been supplementing with omega 3's from fish or krill for some 20 years now. Only an "n" of 1, but when I halved my omegas, me afid quartered.

[@tremfilsccsolutions8902]

I am 66 yrs. Diabetic and high BP. Having codliver oil for about 20 yrs. No problems

[@estellar.367]

everyday, what concentration?

[@DG-EditsYT]

Rhonda I have 20.5cm, do I have risk

[@charlessommers7218]

Thanks 👍

[@mrbuckmeister]

If this article relied on self reporting for whether subjects were taking fish oil, it makes me wonder how the authors determined who had A Fib. Was that from self reporting too? At best, their metrics are imprecise and lack the rigor I would expect for such a bold claim.

[@delltv9863]

Thank you Rhonda, Thanks to you I will continue to take Omega-3. I wonder who financed the study...?

[@bencohensteadisfat]

I’m confused. The risk reduction stats - are these all absolute or relative risk reductions?

[@gregw3707]

I struggled with heart palpitations for years finally identifying the cause from fish oil - the last thing I suspected. At .5g day, is the threshold that is ok for me. I don't care what the study says, it is a problem.

[@Danny-mg1hu]

if you take 4 grams or so according to the study, you might be. if you take 1-2 grams you still should be good. the study though like you have went through it is kind of flawed.

[@Danny-mg1hu]

@@AA-ki6zn not really. 2 grams of Fish Oil, Rhonda Patrick says later in the video raised people's Omega 3s from being below acceptable levels to normal. i measured mine and so far after reaching normal levels 1.5 grams was enough to keep up there at normal ranges. also 4 grams of fish oil is pretty costly on its own. most folks pick 2 grams just on that reason alone.

[@Danny-mg1hu]

@@AA-ki6zn also check out this fish oil Physionic video on Fish Oil. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qomaqa2wfs2Endk

[@SMM60614]

I experienced heart palpitations and a few instances of afib when I took around 2g/daily. I was taking a triple strength supplement (1g) and if I ate salmon I had issues. I went to a lower dose supplement and I don't take it when I'm planning on having salmon on that day. I haven't had any issues since.

[@Scottlp2]

@@AA-ki6znlike vit d or many things, amounts pills consumed less important than blood levels eg vit d blood level or here omega index.

[@boxerfencer]

Did you go to the hospital and get confirmation that your palpitations were AFib? Cause, it's a medical condition and not something you can diagnose yourself just because your heart beat goes irregular now and then. I'm speaking from experience. An irregular heartbeat can be from many things, including stimulation from vagus nerve from looking down at your cell phone. Lastly, if you're truely getting palpitations from eating fish, there's something really wrong with you medically, I would suspect. I'd seriously look into that. ​@@SMM60614

[@jerryh2954]

What else would you expect from Time Magazine? Garbage rag! Thank you for clearing it up, Rhonda. Much respect to you.

[@americanpancakelive]

It sounds like a horribly flawed study. Total self reporting?? No data on the participants actual health, no data on what kind of fish oil? Even still, the benefit from fish oil in general outweighs the small chance of A-fib. This is like arguing getting a Covid shot, the benefits (collectively) far outweigh the risks. Stupid. I hate reporting these days. I feel like my fish oil has helped reduce my triglycerides. Can you do a piece on the daily baby aspirin debate???

[@bigirishe]

Yep, iff it's a self report study, you can safely disregard it.

[@otg1433]

Yes take care of the body but to be obsessed with it is an exercise in futility, as sooner or later it will be a corpse..in the morgue with no life of its own..."wrong identification" we are not who we think we are and we are certainly not our body...keep truckin...

[@stephenbarone4053]

Does anyone know? A doctor once told me about a study that showed fish oil supplements did not show up in people's blood work or whatever screening process was used when compared to people eating actual fish. This meant that the supplements were useless, and the people weren't getting the benefits. Thanks.

[@global-village-idiot]

Are we talking about 2 grams overall (ie. 2 pills) or 2 grams of EPA / DHA... or combined EPA/DHA?

[@intratox1097]

2gr fish oil

[@meltedsnowman9637]

2 grams EPA/DHA.

[@rbt5785]

I’m 35 and have had Afib since I was 12. I’m one of the only documented cases of its kind in the US. I can 100% confirm that fish oil supplementation increases Afib episodes significantly. The last thing you want as a someone with a heart condition is to voluntarily be inducing a potentially fatal arrhythmia. People with Afib should not be supplementing fish oil. More importantly, we need to figure out why this happens - it could imply something negative about the process or quality of the supplements, or it could also reveal something about the arrhythmia trigger. Eating large quantities of fish doesn’t have the same effect

[@MultiWeen]

Probably gut related. Or hiatal hernia related, mimicking symptoms of afib. Or chronic nutrient deficiency which also may lead back to gut and absorption.

[@rbt5785]

@@MultiWeen Sorry this is just laughable. I’ve had 3 heart surgeries and am in case studies at Cleveland Clinic, Vanderbilt, and UPMC. No buddy, it’s not a mimic of Afib symptoms - it’s actually happening in real life. My lord lol what a ridiculous comment

[@MultiWeen]

@@rbt5785 Well laughter is the best medicine. You're welcome pal.

[@peterbedford2610]

I've been in constant Afib for 8 years. Consuming herring and sardines doesn't effect me.

[@rbt5785]

@@peterbedford2610 How would it trigger your Afib if you’re always in it already? Anyways, like I said, eating it doesn’t that the effect supplementation does, in any amount

[@richardparis8738]

How about krill oil

[@gene4094]

I worry about farm fish that are contaminated, even the Scandinavian countries farms have problems.

[@CC-kl4nh]

Fish oil at high doses affects your PT and PTT which affects clotting. It risks your bleeding risk.

[@kirkkelley3791]

Raises blood glucose drasticly

[@ilonabaier6042]

Q: eats just 1 tablespoon of chia seeds (=2 gr of omegy-3) and 1 tablespoon of flaxseeds (=1,8 gr) that is almost 4 gr of omega-3 then, in addition to this, when one eats healthfully more omega-3 gets piled on top of that, and we are talking about a significantly (dangerously?) high dosage of omega-3 AND no omege-3 supplements have even been tabled. I am confused.

[@jozefien1702]

Those are the ALA forms and can hardly be transformed into EPA and DHA

[@N238E]

From personal experience, I'm going to say yes.

[@sar4x474]

Saying yes to what?

[@lessthanoptimum]

I have ben in continuous AFib since 19 Aug. LOOKING BACK i DECIDED THAT IT COULD have been caused by excessive fish oil. I was consuming about 4 grams dayly. Reason? Brain health. 85 years old. History heart ablation several years ago to cure AFib. Been taking blood thinner for years. Wass scheduled for CV TEE on Oct 2. Unfortunately contracted Covid Sunday last week. Oct 02 reschedule to Nov 15. to give two weeks from Covid and get doctor/hospital schedule agreement. I have no bad symptoms from the AFib.. Doesn't affect my daily life but my fitbit says my heart goes wacky every night during sleep. I am in extremely good health otherwise. particularly my calculated O2max is exceptionally good for men my age AFib or not. I plan on at least 10 more years of useful life. Was taking Amazing Omega Norwegian Cod Liver Oil. I had stopped using for 2 or 3 weeks before AFib started. I decided that the additional Vitamin A included in the oil might be bad for my liver from taking 4 servings a day.

[@lessthanoptimum]

All the decisions in the above were by me without consultation with any doctor. I actually haven't talked to my cardiologist yet. about my thoughts on possible contribution of the oil. Busy man.