Does Flushing work? Is Flushing plants a myth?

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An interview with scientists from RXGreen Technologies to discuss their recent flushing experiment to find out if flushing cannabis plants really works.
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@MIGROLIGHT
@MIGROLIGHT Жыл бұрын
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@Boxbeat666
@Boxbeat666 3 жыл бұрын
13:42 the juicy part your waiting for
@JJ-rw7pj
@JJ-rw7pj 3 жыл бұрын
ty bro
@DrMidas02
@DrMidas02 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro
@Boxbeat666
@Boxbeat666 3 жыл бұрын
Remember these are just scientists they are not life time gardeners they dont fully understand what's happening in microbiology (yet). just a few years ago it was only NPK
@DrMidas02
@DrMidas02 3 жыл бұрын
@@Boxbeat666 NPK? What do you recommend? Flushing? I’m first time at this only within 14 days of harvest
@Boxbeat666
@Boxbeat666 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrMidas02 flush for a week when u see you triclones start to turn a little amber . It will save you nutrients and you can smoke it as soon as it drys. If not you will have to leave it a fews weeks in the jars for the bad harsh taste to go away. Remember its always best to let your plants go a little more than what's stated on the seed package 9/10 weeks. Smaller plans may finish quicker than larger ones.
@Kinaek
@Kinaek 2 жыл бұрын
My understanding in recent years is that it wasnt minerals or enhanced terpenes, certainly not cannabinoid levels, but rather the carbohydrate contents in the flowers. By starving it, it forces scenescense and causes the plants to use up its carbs, which then leaves less carbs to break down during curing. They dont even address that theory at all.
@bgrowsmars3918
@bgrowsmars3918 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t remove it from plant it removed it from soil which causes the plant to feed on itself. You can actually see it working so through trial and error I have come up with the results that it most definitely works . It makes your smoke cleaner and better tasting
@Ajvb219
@Ajvb219 2 жыл бұрын
Not according to their study. They said flushing the soil to starve the plant actually fed the plant more from the medium
@repawnd1
@repawnd1 4 жыл бұрын
I give a flush but only to help the plant finish, to prevent the plant from trying to grow new growth in those final moments.
@bartman7181
@bartman7181 2 жыл бұрын
FYI this video is about a study on a hyrdo grow, not soil.
@healthfreak79
@healthfreak79 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. A Great listen.
@toniwarrson2682
@toniwarrson2682 4 жыл бұрын
ty for this i do things organic so i do not flush but i have done to see if it helps i found it washed a lot my soil and microbes along with a few beneficial bugs like wisps and worm eggs too so i do not flush when using cristal based nuts and water-based yes you need too i would think or let plant use everything up you all know when the leaves turn yellow the plant is feeding on itself thanks for the lesson it was great
@A3245
@A3245 2 жыл бұрын
😂 this study was amusing. People that don’t smoke weed. What flushing does is stress the plant, makes the leaves turn light green to yellow. Buds produce more resin. But so does over fertilizing. What was interesting was that there were no significant differences in weight and mineral content. Take a plant and feed ir nutes to the end it will have a bad taste but the magic of taste and smell comes from the cure
@seriousskateboarding9938
@seriousskateboarding9938 3 жыл бұрын
I don't flush. I use powder nutrients, so I'm not sure if that makes a difference, or not. My ashes are always super white and my smoke is always smooth and full flavored. You might save a few dollars by flushing, but that's probably about it.
@sealion16
@sealion16 3 жыл бұрын
On my first attempt at growing I did not know of flushing as I was new. To this day, it is still the best batch I've done to date. I yielded 116 grams per plant. The smoke was smooth and flavor profile was incredible.
@freezeframeplease
@freezeframeplease 2 жыл бұрын
@@stopblaminggunsblamethedem4964 it says right there that did not flushed but hey your username kinda matches the question lmao
@Paul-q3m7k
@Paul-q3m7k 7 ай бұрын
@@freezeframepleaseyour spelling says lots about you too , freezeframe
@zkilla4611
@zkilla4611 2 ай бұрын
Arguing in a chat? Says a lot 😅😮
@ostelot1biondi800
@ostelot1biondi800 4 жыл бұрын
More discussions like this please. Excellent°°!!!
@bgrowsmars3918
@bgrowsmars3918 3 жыл бұрын
You do awesome work for us Shane, you’re definitely appreciated
@braddream77771234
@braddream77771234 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing brother I have dreamed of these conversations thank you from someone who has had to hide for half my life.
@alexanderp578
@alexanderp578 3 жыл бұрын
same here brother.. remember society is wrong about this not you.
@paddymills
@paddymills 3 жыл бұрын
These people saying it's all in the cure are out to lunch ... I grew my own I didn't use anything unnatural. Even the kief burnt black ... You can't tell me that is from wetness or something.. people are out to lunch ... Makes me sick this guy, the ego how full of yourself are you ?.. you can tell he really enjoys going oh debunked you guys. What causes the ash to burn white ... If you are going to say that's all cure that is bullcrap... Like if you are going to smoke some kief and it burns black do you really think that is moisture like Holly cow ... These people don't know what they are talking about .. try growing your own and smoke it ... Grow it outside in the ground.... Don't use store bought fertilizers I'm sure growing in a tent and using those fertilizers is helping you somehow to flush it or something ... How much experience do you think these people have ... And they think they are smarter than everyone.
@iamhere444
@iamhere444 3 жыл бұрын
@@paddymills hell yeah agreed!!
@Carpenters_Canvas
@Carpenters_Canvas 3 жыл бұрын
@@paddymills wow u really got upset …this is science bro . Real proven data . I don’t flush and the ash is white sometimes and sometimes it isn’t . As far as taste I can’t really tell the difference . This is a highly debated subject that people want answers to so they did their best , I highly doubt that he did this to look good or be better than anyone else or is full of himself , if you have watched any other videos of his he just does tests and shows his results .. sorry if u don’t like it . . Do what you do .., why be upset about someone putting this out there ?
@Meowpheus101
@Meowpheus101 2 жыл бұрын
@@Carpenters_Canvas the darker the ash the higher the resin in the bud. Lesser the resin, whiter the ash
@priayief
@priayief 3 жыл бұрын
I am a 73 year-old lifelong gardener, new to growing cannabis. I've learned that in the gardening world there is an abundance of practices and beliefs that simply are not worth one's efforts. Fortunately, with a little effort, a gardener is able to access many science-based sources of information . My research, combined with my own informal field trials, have led me to the conclusion that successful home vegetable gardening is quite simple: basically, no-dig and the addition of compost to my gardens at the end of each growing season. Over the years, I believe this approach has saved me considerable effort, time and money. While doing my research on how to grow, harvest and process cannabis, I realized that there is a dearth of science-based information. This is probably due to the fact that growing cannabis has been illegal and thus the availability of the plant is too limited to make extensive research viable. Things are changing and this is a good thing. I'm looking forward to seeing more of these types of evidence-based testing. Thanks for posting.
@justicebruno5249
@justicebruno5249 3 жыл бұрын
Their techniques are horrible
@priayief
@priayief 3 жыл бұрын
@@justicebruno5249 Why do you say that? I'm interested in informed opinions. Cheers.
@professor4202
@professor4202 3 жыл бұрын
@@justicebruno5249 lol, what? what technique do you need to run some water through the grow medium. your critique makes no sense.
@justicebruno5249
@justicebruno5249 3 жыл бұрын
@@professor4202 man...lol you are so right... lmfao... I was watching a different video and I guess I finger fucked my phone and posted it here...killer. yeah hard to fuck up a flush. Thanks for letting me know..damn phone
@priayief
@priayief 3 жыл бұрын
@Spectacular Spectacular Thanks for the comment. This is the first time I've heard that terpene production is negatively affected by the use of non-organic fertilizers. Interesting. I googled the topic but can't seem to find any information on that topic. I'm wondering how you reached that conclusion? Cheers.
@Build-to-Inspire
@Build-to-Inspire 4 жыл бұрын
Given that their particular experiment showed no discernable difference in weight, flavour or thc levels between a 0 day flush and a 14 day flush I would be most interested to see how far that can be pushed. Would we see a difference at 18 days? 21 days? 25 days? It seems that the most interesting question out of this is how much nutrient are we wasting?
@gradeagrasshole3192
@gradeagrasshole3192 3 жыл бұрын
At 21 or 25 days the plant is dead.
@5h1tfuk
@5h1tfuk 3 жыл бұрын
@@gradeagrasshole3192 shouldn’t the plant start to die, self consuming & more natural? Pulling nutrients from the plant, rather than growing medium
@gradeagrasshole3192
@gradeagrasshole3192 3 жыл бұрын
@@5h1tfuk I mean it will be completely dead. Not transitioning or pulling nutrients, but dead. It wont get any deader, but it also wont get any flushier
@Kier4n99
@Kier4n99 3 жыл бұрын
@@gradeagrasshole3192 lmao I love this comment for some reason
@greenthumbj4151
@greenthumbj4151 3 жыл бұрын
You’re an indiot
@bigj7807
@bigj7807 3 жыл бұрын
All these findings lead me too believe that it doesn’t matter if your clean water feed at the end or not . The one thing I wish they talked about was chlorophyll content % for the final product of each trial .... hugely overlooked and direct impact of how a joint burns . Black vs white ash . Not nutrients ... chlorophyll. I wish they found out if flushing for 7 days aided in breaking down chlorophyll on top of a 14 day hang dry , tote cure
@vancemorton1081
@vancemorton1081 Жыл бұрын
They did do the taste test which included the question about the ash from the 65 participants that did the test ,,,sorry I was reading your comment and listening to her talk at the same time ,,,just saying ,,🤘💪✌️
@Mene_OG
@Mene_OG Жыл бұрын
chlorophyll is made by nitrogen and magnesium
@jennicol-el6xv
@jennicol-el6xv 4 ай бұрын
Ive always believed in flushing, but lately, have been going down the scientific rabbit hole of not doing it. Another thing I listened to was saying that, by flushing, you’re, essentially, weakening the plants immune system for the dry/cure process, making it more susceptible to mold. It’s the proper cure that breaks down the chlorophyll.
@jennicol-el6xv
@jennicol-el6xv 4 ай бұрын
Just as healthy clones are necessary for healthy veg, to flower, to harvest, to dry/cure
@paulhillclassix7676
@paulhillclassix7676 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the scientific end of their research and I found it to be very strong in my opinion that I have of flushing or not flushing as well. And so that being said I have always grew my plants the nature's Way!!! So good soil good organic compost good organic food and nature takes her course and that has always done for me beautifully!!! With no tip burning no fungus no deficiencies no headaches of any sort short!! I'm just old school I guess but I believe in the keep it simple stupid method!! Peace and God bless keep it growing green!!!✌️
@LeslieKailVillarreal
@LeslieKailVillarreal 2 жыл бұрын
I want to learn more about not having to add notes to my outdoor grow they always cause issues!
@Deaner510
@Deaner510 4 жыл бұрын
Great interview! I couldn't bring myself to hit the thumbs up since it's sitting at 420. I'll have to come back to it lol
@kylewhite8258
@kylewhite8258 4 жыл бұрын
The cure wasnt talked about at all that's where the magic happens that's where taste and flavour comes in .
@TronSAHeroXYZ
@TronSAHeroXYZ 4 жыл бұрын
Experience is the key.
@kuittiukko
@kuittiukko 4 жыл бұрын
curing and flushing does the exact same thing,flushing just quickens the procces
@16thdave
@16thdave 4 жыл бұрын
The best tasting cannabis product I have had is live resin. It is not cured at all soon as the plant is cut straight into the freezer then made into bubble hash finally made into rosin that they call live resin. This is the best taste ever!
@BC-nl9ph
@BC-nl9ph 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps more interestingly... Can the flush effect the colour/hardness of the Ash?
@bmmmchichibmmm
@bmmmchichibmmm 4 жыл бұрын
@@kuittiukko NO NO NO NO NO
@TitterGrows
@TitterGrows 4 жыл бұрын
missing data on Chlorophyl levels before and after “flushing”. Chlorophyl is a huge contributor to taste and flavours as well as harshness.
@someone_else303
@someone_else303 4 жыл бұрын
Chlorophyl will decay in the dry/curing stage anyways.
@TitterGrows
@TitterGrows 4 жыл бұрын
IsExtinct this is true but if you get more of it out before hand, there is even less to decay. i read the entire research on their webpage and the 14 day flush had their leaves completely yellow compared to the 0 day that still had full green leaves. this was the only data that seemed to widely vary between all cases unlike as stated in the video that there wasn’t enough difference between the groups to warrant any significant change. i feel there is something they are over looking here. it’s not pertaining to NPK so i understand why it wasn’t covered in the study.
@BC-nl9ph
@BC-nl9ph 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think chlorophyll content could affect the colour/hardness of the ash?
@bmmmchichibmmm
@bmmmchichibmmm 4 жыл бұрын
@@BC-nl9ph It does not.
@daltonwyant5154
@daltonwyant5154 4 жыл бұрын
There’s a lot of flaws n your methods
@fgovern
@fgovern 4 жыл бұрын
This video is BS. What is the experience level of the people consuming the cannabis in this test? As a grower and a consumer, I see a massive difference in Flushing versus no flushing. The most obvious when not flushed is the black ash and cannabis that will not burn even if it is bone dry. In my opinion, this is due to a high level of nitrogen remaining in the flower essentially making it fireproof. Second, is a cherry that has its own fireworks. In my opinion, this is due to the high level of phosphorus remaining in the flowers. The metallic or bitter taste in the mouth is offsetting to say the least. It almost has a numbing effect on the inside of your mouth. Not only that but I find "Dirty" Or unflushed cannabis gives me a headache. Chop a plant down without flushing and you will have these results every single time. Flush a plant for a minimum of two weeks and you will not experience cannabis with a black ash, burn problems, or a bitter/metallic taste. This is regardless if it has been cured or not.
@MistahBufo
@MistahBufo 3 жыл бұрын
This study also didn't just test people in their preference, they tested nutrient levels in flushed and unflushed bud, and found ZERO DIFFERENCE in nutrient levels and chemical make-up between them. Starving your plant does nothing for the buds in terms of making it use up the nutrients already present. Black ash and uneven burning is almost certainly a result of unfinished drying/curing, as any plant material that has been properly dried will burn entirely, but if theres still high enough moisture in the plant material, it will burn but not completely combust. "regardless if it has been cured or not" again, your opinion is your opinion, it's unfortunate that its factually incorrect and there's a fair amount of science behind why you're wrong.
@nihilityjoey
@nihilityjoey 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love for a study to be done on topping and stress training, and the perception of higher yields.
@nexxgeneration875
@nexxgeneration875 3 жыл бұрын
Now that will be great to have studies on these subjects.
@nihilityjoey
@nihilityjoey 3 жыл бұрын
@DoWhutNow no it doesnt. The evidence is like for flushing.
@B.White70
@B.White70 3 жыл бұрын
@Ivan Catudan depends on strains as well. Some respond better than others. But, fundamentally I agree with you. Any changes typically that I've seen have been minimal. But, I'm only 5 years in...
@Flippy2100
@Flippy2100 3 жыл бұрын
stress training definitely works
@B.White70
@B.White70 3 жыл бұрын
@@nihilityjoey what part of flushing isn't legit to you? As a test was done a few years back. Limited completely to a couple strains and environmental settings. Taste was changed and the fact that no nutrition is needed for the last two weeks is legit. As far as the stress included in the process filled by darkness is a slight improvement. Almost no need to do it. But again they only used two or three strains. And the same environment. Hardly a deep dive into it though. From the 2017 study. Migro and Mr grow it talked to the people who did the study last year. You can find their input there as well as there site if you can remember the name if the company that sponsored the testing done.
@A100andtenpercent
@A100andtenpercent 3 жыл бұрын
This is some groundbreaking stuff. Happy I can stop wasting the last two weeks worth of nutrients and get the same crop.
@bruceholinight7978
@bruceholinight7978 3 жыл бұрын
One thing for sure about growing cannabis and that is nothing is for sure , at 67 I started to experiment with smoking and growing in 1967 and in 1975 started growing with a 400 watt metal halide warehouse light ! My favorite thing to do , and still is , going to auto wreckers and abandoned cars around old farms and looking in vans , obvious teenagers cars and I've found many old seeds some that geminated after 20 years of being under seats ! Most grower's are like hunter's or equipment operators , they always thing they are the best at it , like I've said before I've been eating for 67 years but I'm far from a chef and I learn from newbies all the time ! Experience is still the best teacher .......great channel !
@jucedcustoms2274
@jucedcustoms2274 3 жыл бұрын
touche
@johnschubert5664
@johnschubert5664 3 жыл бұрын
Ii8pjp lol (ppp program lol poop
@jasegtree4553
@jasegtree4553 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing but respect for youand your approach to growing mate. I'm 49 and have been growing weed for a while now and I am still learning something new every crop. I pity anyone who doesn't know enough too know they know nothing. 😂
@flpdragonslayersmith8
@flpdragonslayersmith8 2 жыл бұрын
Ur right man, I've grown straight monsters and then like now I had one that wouldn't veg at all, idk what it did. But turned back and it's made a lil flower on it. Hopefully it's goin to be a good one, something stressed it bad at gemination, but 3 more of the same seeds right beside in same dirt have flourished. Idk. Wierd plant but love em. I'll listen to anyone for advice. Even if I know it's wrong or I know is right, I just like hearing opinions or stories, while we cheef down on said plants lol. ✌️
@pjarma8536
@pjarma8536 2 жыл бұрын
I started at 45 after retiring from boatbuilder since 15. I knew then plants grew from soil just add water. I now know I knew nothing. Now,10 years later,I know the cure for most afflictions. My plants thrive and boom instead of fizzle and pop. Everyday I still learn new things.
@gbaszanda
@gbaszanda 4 жыл бұрын
The best channel on KZbin by far.... thank you shane!
@jimsutube123
@jimsutube123 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I work in the medical Cannabis industry and have yet to meet a plant scientist or anyone but myself who even studied it in College. Lots of "facts" they were passed down, miss information, half truths and people stuck in their ways cuz this is how there mom who grew did it and she has dreads etc..
@devjyarn
@devjyarn 4 жыл бұрын
I remember this study first being published about 6 months ago, maybe more, then it completely disappeared from the company's website after some questions about finding no significant differences between treatments, but still recommending a 0 day flush based on consumer preferences in the blind taste test. If an operation runs 8 an week flower schedule and can achieve statistically identical results by using only 6 weeks worth of feeding, that's a 25% reduction in inputs for the producer. On the other hand, recommending a 0 day flush treatment ensures that producers are not buying 25% fewer inputs from a fertilizer manufacturer. I guess my curiosity is why go through the effort of conducting a study worthy of being peer reviewed and published, then conclude with a statement from qualitative data when all other statements have said there is no significant difference?
@TheAmericanOne
@TheAmericanOne 4 жыл бұрын
It was only a one medium test- the sample and methods were inconclusive, not just the results provided.... I know from experience- salt build up in a media will have your smoke tasting like crap and that’s if it’s even burnable...
@brandonstock29
@brandonstock29 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheAmericanOne crazy thing is i use tap water with 120ppm and she's smooth with no flush in soil.
@TheGoonster22
@TheGoonster22 4 жыл бұрын
@Philip J Fry I'm leaning to your method to try. Thanks for the input.
@eugeniahobbs41
@eugeniahobbs41 4 жыл бұрын
That was the finding of this study, no significant difference at the 0.05 level of certainty. That’s how the study was designed. The results are the results. No conspiracy.
@devjyarn
@devjyarn 4 жыл бұрын
@@eugeniahobbs41 I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories either, I've just had previous personal experience with this study. The dead link and my comments from this past December can be found in the link below. forum.growersnetwork.org/t/finally-controlled-study-about-flushing/28376
@lukedvisscher4676
@lukedvisscher4676 4 жыл бұрын
Still means we should be flushing. To save nutrients!
@ethdsththwethr7220
@ethdsththwethr7220 3 жыл бұрын
thats a matter of opinion at that point I think depending on your medium
@stochastic24
@stochastic24 3 жыл бұрын
Stop fertilizing, but not flushing in the sense of flushing out the soil with excess water.
@ethdsththwethr7220
@ethdsththwethr7220 3 жыл бұрын
@@stochastic24 I dont agree with that because thats not flushing then...... thats just tapering off nutes which i agree with, but to cut off completely i say no
@derekellisCAN
@derekellisCAN 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best in depth look at flushing I've been able to find. Seems that 14 day flush is not the way to go, looks like 7 days may be the sweet spot. But that's my take, what's everyone else's opinion?
@TheRasta815
@TheRasta815 3 жыл бұрын
It depends on what media you grow in !!!
@derekellisCAN
@derekellisCAN 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRasta815 I'm growning in coc coir.
@HAPPYHERBS1
@HAPPYHERBS1 3 жыл бұрын
@@derekellisCAN yeah 7-10 days for coco/hydro, 14 for soil, if your unsure do a half and half and see what you prefer.
@Brovillion559
@Brovillion559 2 жыл бұрын
They just spoke in circles. I have all this experience huh.
@allanmakkink8404
@allanmakkink8404 4 жыл бұрын
but this was only done in coco hdyro the question is does media matter does the same go for soil dwc other types of systems
@apsert
@apsert 3 жыл бұрын
Does fruit in nature ONLY fall from the branch after a down pour or simply, when it is ready? Answer lys with!
@Growdankmeds
@Growdankmeds 3 жыл бұрын
Hydro plants only need 48hours of nutrient free to flush, 7days to be extra sure. There is a worrying number of fame hungry idiots desperate to put their name to something in cannabis history. If you’ve ever had unflushed bud it snap crackles n pops or doesn’t burn evenly/properly, taste like chemicals, just all round nasty. UK cheese is quite a popular strain and a very unique taste, can tell instantly when the cheese hasn’t been flushed properly due to how it smokes tastes and smells
@GerryMantha
@GerryMantha 3 жыл бұрын
@@Growdankmeds You need to eliminate your male plants before they drop pollen dude. Your snap crackle 'n' pop comes from seeds in your joint. FFS, at least remove the seeds before rolling if not. lol
@Growdankmeds
@Growdankmeds 3 жыл бұрын
@@GerryMantha seeds?? its not 1970 dude
@Growdankmeds
@Growdankmeds 3 жыл бұрын
@@GerryMantha all these attention seekers are desperate to put their name to something thats all, fake ass philosophers
@Skillzzzzza
@Skillzzzzza 10 ай бұрын
So there basically saying flushing doesn’t do shit and be careful about what your feeding your plants because once the plant is able to uptake heavy metals/ chemicals you can’t get it out of the bud and plant and then your smoking it into your lungs ???
@ReapingTheHarvest
@ReapingTheHarvest 9 ай бұрын
Yes lookout for metals especially. Weed is a "Hyperaccumulator" plant.
@ronoberbeck6914
@ronoberbeck6914 3 жыл бұрын
Thank God for sane cannabis laws that allow us to have an open discussion concerning things like this! Also, thank You people for being intelligent, scientific and informative! That said, now I Really don't know what to do. 🙄 I imagine in a commercial grow it would save money on nutrients to not flush but it seems to not matter at all in a personal very small grow by the study. People mention RO water and filtered water.. How about distilled water? Within 24 hours after flushing my Hydro buckets and refilling them with plain pH adjusted to 5.8 distilled water, the flowers Noticeably lost fragrance. Now I don't know whether I should add a small bit of nutrient to the water for that small extra bit of terpine profile that the test subjects noticed. When it comes to flavor, Every little bit counts! Lots to learn! Now would you please do a study on drying & curing correctly because we now hear That's the True Key to efficacy and flavor. A couple of times, I've ended up with pasty tasting crystalline hay.. No One wants crystalline Hay. 😝 Marijuana, when properly grown And handled proves that effective medicine does Not have to taste terrible. Thanks again!
@frankmavety9450
@frankmavety9450 2 жыл бұрын
I am 77 years old and became familiar with cannabis 50 years ago. What I have found in Practical experience is a difference between a flushed plant and a not flush plant is the non-flush plant when smoked in a joint will have visible Sparks and the occasional audible crack. The plants that have been flushed 7 days do not have the Sparks and the cracks. I don't know why. Cannabis needs much more study it has qualities that are still uncovered. Absolutely curing cancers is one of them.
@SmilingGriffon-lk7um
@SmilingGriffon-lk7um Ай бұрын
Excess Nitrogen creates sparks
@DanielDroegeShow
@DanielDroegeShow 3 жыл бұрын
It seems like the study talks about more chlorophyll breaking down in the flushed leaves at harvest and a decrease of Nitrogen. I know it goes over the schedule, but I wonder what NPK ratio they fed to the plants in flower. I wouldn't think that it would have so much nitrogen compared to potassium even without the flush. edit: I looked it up and it is like 7-2-7.
@tg8051
@tg8051 4 жыл бұрын
Great information! I can say personally I prefer flowers to be faded yellow vs fresh green color! Smoother taste & white ash burn vs a black snap crackle pop smoke! I will continue to let mine fade last couple weeks.
@melefarmer1127
@melefarmer1127 4 жыл бұрын
Yessah!🤙gotta flush before harvest.everything these ladies are saying goes against my personal experiences.i do not believe their claim that there is hardly to no taste difference in 14 day flushes compared to a 0 day flush.again this goes directly against mine and others experience.
@winddrift03
@winddrift03 4 жыл бұрын
Ash color is based on sugars in the buds, NOT the nutrients used. Only a good cure will remove the sugars, it has nothing to do with flushing, just another part of the myth
@danbell1618
@danbell1618 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly right
@ethdsththwethr7220
@ethdsththwethr7220 4 жыл бұрын
fade doesnt have anything to do with flushing
@GerryMantha
@GerryMantha 4 жыл бұрын
@@ethdsththwethr7220 Exactly. Cannabis is an annual plant and dies after flowering. If your plant isn't "faded" when chop time comes, it means they're making the typical newbie mistake and likely harvesting too early.
@colincampbell4261
@colincampbell4261 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is one of those stoner science nonsenses! You don't need a 30 mins video to say so.
@DrSoapp
@DrSoapp 4 жыл бұрын
Go grow some hair colin
@brewingfarts
@brewingfarts 4 жыл бұрын
Its nice to hear the science and understanding from people who have studied it, it means more .
@Medastep
@Medastep 3 жыл бұрын
And you don't have to be a jerk about it Colon
@inkognito3145
@inkognito3145 3 жыл бұрын
Just google it if you only need an answer as fast as possible. Don’t click a 30min video and complain that the video is 30min lol
@Medastep
@Medastep 3 жыл бұрын
@non important so you're saying they determined the same thing?
@jborganix4028
@jborganix4028 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, this seems rather basic for a study. There are way too many considerations not taken into account. Volume of water for flushes, frequency of watering for flush, time of day for harvest (extremely important for terpene retention) Also, never talked about PPM throughout flower and no talk about how much lighting power was used for the plants nor hanging height of said lighting. Also, in my experience flushing only removes the nutrient available in the medium. Not the plant itself. They uptake and store the nutrition, so in theory the only thing that will change that is time. You can flush a plant from 5k ppm to 400ppm in 40 minutes with heavy watering, but the nutrition is already uptaken by the plant and stored in the cell walls. Also, your charts on terpene retention are boof. At around 7 days monoterps are offgassing which is why you have such a big push in the 10-14 day range thereafter in terpene expression. They'll rollercoaster again thereafter and in around 30-40 days they'll peak in terpene profile expression during a cure. This is why people don't smoke 14 day old dried cannabis. Like wine, it needs time. Nice efforts but would love to see way more detail.
@justanotherwaytodoit3796
@justanotherwaytodoit3796 4 жыл бұрын
From my experience I notice a difference. Started the flush 2 weeks before finish and carried on feed in the other plant. The plant not flushed had a harsher taste to the flushed plant, though I wonder if different feeds and chemicals may have different effects, no two setups are ever the same there's always something you can't replicate 100% in either water, temp, humidity so I think it's hard to get a true answer. I always say flush, doesn't effect the finish in my opinion and why not potentially remove something that can cause human harm. Great watch and learn though 👍
@RocketNothing
@RocketNothing 4 жыл бұрын
Yep same experience for me. I wish I could agree with this & it were true because it would be more convenient for me to not flush. But it just isn't, not with my nutes, they're missing something.
@TheFingolito
@TheFingolito 4 жыл бұрын
If you use coco coir and you flush then you will remove salts (nutrients) from the plant and simulate the process of summer to autumn. This doesn't mean that your plant is ready or ripe, you are just telling it that it should be. Using living soil you store all the nutrients from the start in the soil and only top feed 1 time every 3-4 weeks, last time 5 weeks prior to chopping and you will see that the depletion of nutrients happens naturally that way. Flushing just imitates the same thing. :)
@ajahnke688
@ajahnke688 4 жыл бұрын
Wha growing medium do you use?
@timpage5021
@timpage5021 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@TheFingolito
@TheFingolito 4 жыл бұрын
@@timpage5021 I have tried soil mixed with coco 1/3, I am really interrested in testing out organic dry amendements. Checkout Mr Canucks Grow on youtube, he got some realyl interresting method and idiot proof (almost). Im thinking of combingin this method of growith with the Blumat drip system, have you looked into this?
@jamiescott1062
@jamiescott1062 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like some people wanting a paycheck telling growers what they already know! Funny how this happens when something becomes legal- even though these women talking most likely never used weed talked shit about weed when it was illegal! But hey thats usual with the industry now!
@donhodgkinson6233
@donhodgkinson6233 3 жыл бұрын
I'm smoking weed right now that hasn't been flushed properly i can still taste the chems and it's horrible and your there saying don't flush your plants! perhaps more sane advice would be never over do it with feeds in the first place in case you get mould or have to crop early for unforseen reasons this is what I do. Smoking unflushed weed that has had organic feed and ec of about 1 throughout is just about acceptable and is what I do most over the time. If you completely ignore flush and have high ec you WILL make people ill no question 100% and the weed will be revolting. If you grow weed to sell some dickhead and you have no problem poisoning people for slightly more proffit then yea lace it with glass and silicon while u at it. If you grow weed for your own consumption then flush your weed for at least 5 days not much time for such massive difference. Trust if you smoke 25 spliffs a day these things very important in my life day to day. I've studied physics for 2 years weed ain't no science it's more like a placebo and a hobby and a narcotic
@16thdave
@16thdave 3 жыл бұрын
25 spliffs ???? How big?
@donhodgkinson6233
@donhodgkinson6233 3 жыл бұрын
@@16thdave small Ls 2 papers 1 pack a day lol
@sevensurvival
@sevensurvival 3 жыл бұрын
Flushing has more of an effect on Hydro grown plants with a simple medium like rockwool. Organic super Soils like i utilize are complex, with many different sizes of soil components . Some of which take a long time to break down, and dissolve into a liquid so that it can be flushed out. Nitrogen is the main culprit in adding a green, bitter grassy taste to herb. Discontinuing the use of elements that the plant no longer needs, and increasing slightly what it needs to produce volatile oils near the end. Potassium, and calcium along with other minerals help improve the taste, and oil production. Plants take only what they need from natural soil. In hydro those nutrients are intravenously apply in the water, and enters the plant whether the plants needs them or not. In nature without applications of fertilizers plants fade in color at the end of their cycle. Go organic, and natural all the way, and stop applying nitrogen before flowering. I still flush with pure water the last two weeks.
@rikh9546
@rikh9546 4 жыл бұрын
What I got out of this is if you flush you can save some nutes, save money and it really won't affect your yield.
@fullparranrlgames3758
@fullparranrlgames3758 4 жыл бұрын
If it doesnt effect taste and so on...what happends if u feed right to harvest
@fullparranrlgames3758
@fullparranrlgames3758 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe that could have been a 2nd control
@SevenFromTheSins
@SevenFromTheSins 4 жыл бұрын
But waste two weeks of life.. smh 🤦🏽‍♂️ I rather time than money
@fullparranrlgames3758
@fullparranrlgames3758 4 жыл бұрын
@Tin Tizzy MY DRYING WAS A LITTLE QUICK LIKE 5 DAYS...I DIDNT FLUSH..IM CURING NOW BUT HAVE SMOKED THE BUD TO TEST...NO HARSH TASTE/SMELL...WHITE ASH I HARVESTED MILKY WHITE TRYCHES...AND THE HAY SMELL DISAPPEARED AFTER 3 DAYS OF CURING...
@markrich3271
@markrich3271 4 жыл бұрын
@@fullparranrlgames3758 They did . The said they had different control groups that flushed starting different days 0 being no flush.
@moedogger21
@moedogger21 4 жыл бұрын
I've flushed my plants and not flushed them and no one could tell the difference. Dispensaries still bought as much of it as possible and so did my friends. Still tasted great, white Ash and smooth. The plants I have going right now are at week 9 and I have been flushing them for 5 days now, because I did a run off and the soil had 1800ppm, so there are plenty of nuts in the soil for the plant to eat up. In two days I'll do another run off and see where it's at
@dubc313
@dubc313 4 жыл бұрын
What was your ppm's of your last feed solution and how long after that feed was that first flush?
@professor4202
@professor4202 3 жыл бұрын
right on. you can save on input costs (mainly nutrients) by only watering with regular water the final two weeks. it won't affect your buds or harvest in any way.
@K_Nasty
@K_Nasty 3 жыл бұрын
I always want to know the "how "and "why "..👍🌴👽
@brandonstock29
@brandonstock29 4 жыл бұрын
does coco have "the ability to store" nutes? what about soils ability to produce them... variances immeasurable
@russelltonnesen6711
@russelltonnesen6711 2 жыл бұрын
I always suspected flushing was BS myself, thanks at last for some believable data !
@kibackatitjerseywelitrecor8422
@kibackatitjerseywelitrecor8422 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@ScubaSteve4444
@ScubaSteve4444 4 жыл бұрын
Yet another myth debunked. This info will help many open minded growers.👍🤙Can't argue science and data analysis
@kuittiukko
@kuittiukko 4 жыл бұрын
lmao, their testing cured product, flushing and curing does the same thing so u have to spend less time curing it hence u save money on space needed to cure. also you save money on nutrients when flushing. ID say if they used the same time on all plants for curing procces , they probably over cured the flushed stuff whitch have led to terp degenration. but yea, they leave all this information untold, you know their a nutrient company when you use more of their stuff they mke money. have fun waiting 60 days to cure your weed when my is done in 15
@ScubaSteve4444
@ScubaSteve4444 4 жыл бұрын
@@kuittiukko to each his own.
@jsmith3966
@jsmith3966 4 жыл бұрын
Flushing and curing does not do the same thing. Curing releases the gasses stored inside the flower. Flushing is supposed to flush out nutrients from the soil
@kuittiukko
@kuittiukko 4 жыл бұрын
@@jsmith3966 yes and after the nutrients are flushed out the plant will start to breakdown the same way as curing does. you re probably from this company and again trying to water down the real answer.
@kuittiukko
@kuittiukko 4 жыл бұрын
@@jsmith3966 please tell me why they did this with cured product then? if flushing dosent matter. ofc they would have done it with fresh mj....also tell me 1 seiously taken grower who dosent flush.
@tableshaper4076
@tableshaper4076 4 жыл бұрын
So what causes the different colours of the ash?
@C...G...
@C...G... 4 жыл бұрын
carbon content?
@DrSoapp
@DrSoapp 4 жыл бұрын
Nitrogeon
@huskygardens
@huskygardens 3 жыл бұрын
Were these ppl who were the smoke testers actual growers or just cannabis interested...
@MrJaman0083
@MrJaman0083 3 жыл бұрын
When you are using 3 to 5 times the "standard" dosing of nuits and you are using 8 different ferts you have to flush. This reminds me of all the Horticulture degree students thought they could grow pot. Turns out they couldn't. Saw many failed crops cause some ass hat had a degree and ruined hundreds of thousands of dollars in product. The early days of legalization! You flush for all kinds of reasons, bugs, mold, stress etc. These people have no fucking clue on how to grow commercial pot.
@westero7013
@westero7013 4 жыл бұрын
When referring to minerals are they talking about chlorophyll? I've always thought it was chlorophyll we were trying to remove hence the yellowing of the leaves before harvest and proper cure to remove the grassy taste.
@B52StratoBomber
@B52StratoBomber 4 жыл бұрын
Less Clorophyll in the Leaves (yellow Leaves) leads to less Clorophyll in the so or so green Buds ? Makes no Sense to me Since the flower doesnt turn yellow and that should be the case when there is less Clorophyll in the Final Product...
@StockedShelves
@StockedShelves 4 жыл бұрын
From my understanding you are trying to remove any carbon/sugar reserves the plant may have, which is believed to cause the harsher burning taste as a result of excess minerals upon harvest.
@raphaelv9197
@raphaelv9197 4 жыл бұрын
The chlorophyll molecule is made out of nitrogen, magnesium and other.
@guillaumefeldman
@guillaumefeldman 4 жыл бұрын
@@StockedShelves The random taste test demonstrates that there is no real difference in taste. If anything no flush tasted better! Flushing is only worth it to save yourself some money on nutrients. Consider the carbon/sugar reserves leading to harsh smoke theory debunked
@mikestewart6793
@mikestewart6793 3 жыл бұрын
Meh. Ive done a 2 week flush for 20 years now. After hearing these debates decided to try tapering food back at the end with no "flush" for 3 crops straight. Wont do that again, put it that way. Ive gone back to water only at the end.
@guilhermepaula6496
@guilhermepaula6496 3 жыл бұрын
care to elaborate? what differences did you actualy notice?
@paddymills
@paddymills 3 жыл бұрын
@@guilhermepaula6496 how about black ash that barley breaks apart .. how about you go to smoke some kief and that burns black ..can you imagine that ...
@B.White70
@B.White70 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome clip. More like these please?? Thank you for continuing to do what you do. You absolutely rock!
@DigitalMadrigal
@DigitalMadrigal 3 жыл бұрын
If it makes no difference than flush . Because water is cheap and nutes are not.
@fkindirtyhippie8853
@fkindirtyhippie8853 3 жыл бұрын
Better Title “Does Flushing Work? No, here’s why.”
@Peter-zg3em
@Peter-zg3em 3 жыл бұрын
Best title “people who sell nutrients want you to Max out your EC for an extra week.” Flush dwc for at least 3 days. Higher if you have a dialed setup and you run high ppms. Soil for a week. At least. What do you have to lose?
@dabsindeeddabsindeed7205
@dabsindeeddabsindeed7205 3 жыл бұрын
but .....when i flush my soil ppm drops and my bud burns and smokes way better.......im kinda lost lol
@raphaelgoins2276
@raphaelgoins2276 3 жыл бұрын
No your right their test were all hydro, most no there a diff when growing in soil and flushing would be diff tooo
@DriftmanX
@DriftmanX 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Let the know it allS try their no flush methods. I focus on the VPD and optimum health of my plants and flush a minimum of 10 days. Also dry for 7+ days and cure for another 2 weeks. My friends never complain about my product and love the smoke.
@alex-m-jones
@alex-m-jones 3 жыл бұрын
We need to know what nutrients were used, and what the substrate PH was, along with the runoff EC. How do you explain cannabis that won’t burn properly because it wasn’t flushed. When you “flush” do you just stop giving nutrients, or do you actually run water through the substrate until the ec drops to the same level as the input water? These are important factors
@JJ-rw7pj
@JJ-rw7pj 3 жыл бұрын
Hi buddie can you be so kind to explain both? many thanks in advance
@topshelfruns2039
@topshelfruns2039 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly bro dont waste your time these people need too read a book.
@ethdsththwethr7220
@ethdsththwethr7220 3 жыл бұрын
I think the flushing everyone does is nute starving, not ph lock flushing, with that in mind no they did not soak the plants it's just starving the plant,that's the myth
@michaelsheehan7316
@michaelsheehan7316 3 жыл бұрын
The way it smokes has nothing to do with the flush that all happens during the curing process where you burn starches and remaining chlorophyll.
@ethdsththwethr7220
@ethdsththwethr7220 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelsheehan7316 Ill say it again, the myth for most growers especially from word of fuckign mouthy since that was the way to really trade info on growing for alot of use back like 8-10 years ago is that flushign helps improve taste, and the ash will be white. these are the main 2 claims of flushing being beneficial I know the pseudo science as to why people believe its true as well so please you can mention starches and chlorophyl carbs etc all you want till your face turns blue that process does not actually make yuour weed taste better and does not give white ash instead of black, that is the main claims of the myth, anything else is your own perception
@gprojectnoob4779
@gprojectnoob4779 4 ай бұрын
My bro science theory. Your not "flushing". Your letting the plant consume whatever nutrients are left in the stems and stocks. Then when you dry the plant the flowers are not sucking up those left over nutrients from the stocks .
@electricjc
@electricjc 2 ай бұрын
"Flushing" also causes the chlorophyll to breakdown faster which reduces curing time and makes for better taste. These "scientists" are not "bud enthusiasts" so their opinions are limited to stats.
@roberthughes4129
@roberthughes4129 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do one on removing leaves from a flowering bud
@seriousskateboarding9938
@seriousskateboarding9938 3 жыл бұрын
Here's a cool little fact: Calics/bracts have 140% of the photosynthesis of a leaf (after they start to swell). Not only do you get better light penetration but you also get faster growth, if you defoliate leaves at the right time.
@28russ
@28russ 3 жыл бұрын
@@seriousskateboarding9938 But when's the right time to defoliate?
@irish-medi-weed-grower5240
@irish-medi-weed-grower5240 4 жыл бұрын
My understanding is the flush is to do with enzymes . In the wild as the summer progresses the soil heats up and the enzymes are able to break down more of the available nutrients and thus the plant is able to make better use of the soils benefits . As the summer recedes the soils cool down and the rain and a few nutrients are all that is taken on as the enzymes die off . So when we give plants just a water feed for the last few days indoors , we are replicating the end of the plants grow cycle forcing it to use up its stored energy in the leaves .
@nickphinney9568
@nickphinney9568 3 жыл бұрын
Bad info .
@juliankirby9880
@juliankirby9880 4 жыл бұрын
I know someone whose bud always tastes the way botanicare cal mag smells. He flushes for 7 days. My other friend doesn’t flush, and also uses botanicare cal mag. Other friends bud does not taste like botanicare cal mag’s smell. It’s all about feeding your plants right.
@jeff7279
@jeff7279 9 ай бұрын
Tell me why, if flushing has no benefit on end user smoking experience, then why does unflushed cannabis ash burn black, it won't stay lit, and is harsh and tastes like chemicals?
@ReapingTheHarvest
@ReapingTheHarvest 9 ай бұрын
You're right. Personal experience always trumps whatever "science" says. I fell for the no-flush nonsense for a while and always wondered why my weed was harsh. People will say just cure it longer, or that I dried it improperly but that's not true. I've experimented several times with flushing vs not flushing, and the flushed weed always tastes better. It's an easy experiment for anyone to do themselves, but people prefer to "follow the science" and regurgitate whatever "science" says. Plus the main company that everyone cites for this study... the one on this video (rx green tech)... is a freaking nute company. Of course they want you to use as much nutes as possible lol.
@benjibowser5181
@benjibowser5181 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah white ash is down to moisture content as well as over fertilisation
@memo007999
@memo007999 3 жыл бұрын
100%
@eugeniahobbs41
@eugeniahobbs41 4 жыл бұрын
Again, Shane lifts the lid on folklore and myth. My favourite is blasting the idea of Grams/Watt as a metric for grow light efficiency. Not very long ago that was “da’ bomb”. Now everyone is up to PAR and PPFD. Introducing scientific method always improves results. Thanks to the great science from Rx Green.
@rogermoore770
@rogermoore770 4 жыл бұрын
You mean Gram per watt which is an aim not a measurement! and par ppf ppfd is a measurement thats been around for decades ! We didn't suddenly lern this when migro turned up with their overpriced lights.
@DrSoapp
@DrSoapp 4 жыл бұрын
Grow some hair old man
@astralpx
@astralpx 3 жыл бұрын
Yet most weed is still terrible lol
@riffnz1
@riffnz1 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shane for organising and sharing this informative video, and to the RXGreen crew. I have been growing for forty years and still learning! Funny how those who are presented with evidence are still denying it. Guess the flat earthers will ignore science and do it their way as usual though.
@blainelyster496
@blainelyster496 4 жыл бұрын
@Tin Tizzy as long as your not over feeding , your ashes won’t be black residue.
@airsoftsniper9191
@airsoftsniper9191 2 жыл бұрын
It is clear you did not check the rx green study. Please at least give it a glance before commenting. Please try to find even just a single good thing they did during that 'study' 😂. Cmon man have some self respect... At least if you don't understand (which I highly doubt, the rx green 'study' is very easy to read and understand) then don't post these misleading comments where you are backing up unuseable results
@jeff7279
@jeff7279 9 ай бұрын
How does a mineral stay in the plant? Thats like saying the carbohydrates a human consumes stays in the body. That it is not used for growth or to stay alive? If the minerals aren't consumed to create plant tissue, then why do we need to continue to feed. By that logic we should be able to feed once and thats all ya need cuz once the minerals are in the plant they stay there......
@homunculus2824
@homunculus2824 28 күн бұрын
They stay until used and are stored in the leaves. They are saying you aren't going to remove them by just flushing with water as they are stored in the plant itself not the water just like we store fat and our body uses it later. A plant will uptake nutrients as it needs it, not just gobble it all up. That is why leaves turn all sorts of colors during a flush, it's getting deficiencies because the nutrients it needs aren't available, and they don't have any stored to release from the leaves.
@MrFragranceReview
@MrFragranceReview 4 жыл бұрын
I think the only legitimate reason to flush is to bring out ‘color’ from the plant more. Although, I think it could potentially be bad as you don’t want leaves dying too early, crisping up and making trimming more difficult as you may have dead nutrient free leaves inside your cured flowers.
@DrSoapp
@DrSoapp 4 жыл бұрын
derp
@A3245
@A3245 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@huskygardens
@huskygardens 3 жыл бұрын
And i heard nothing bout dry times and cure and how that plays a huge role in this.
@chrisconley5664
@chrisconley5664 2 жыл бұрын
Might be ok not to flush your plant if you fed at 900-1000 ppm using a TDS meter. On the other hand, some new growers give heavy feedings throughout, creating a nutrient lockout with all the built up salts, a flushing makes a huge difference in tastes believe me. New growers don't even know how acidic some of these flowers foods are and don't even pH balance their nutrients solution. A flush is very good for beginner grows.
@kingcola3849
@kingcola3849 3 жыл бұрын
Finally some scientific information but here's the deal I truly believed that Flushing made my plant better but according to the science it doesn't matter if you flush or not so what it all boils down to is that both sides were wrong the side that thought flushing help clean the plant out and made it tastier and the side that said not flushing was was giving your plant more nutrients to grow both are wrong so I'm going to still flush for two weeks because it doesn't make a difference but I'll save two weeks of nutrients hahaha
@ryanavery7980
@ryanavery7980 4 жыл бұрын
What about flushing as a cure for overfertilization and excessive salt buildup in the growing medium?
@ryanavery7980
@ryanavery7980 4 жыл бұрын
What I mean is, start by over fertilizing, or start by putting excessive salts in the growing medium. Then test a control group where you do things normal, and another group where you first try flushing and then switch to normal, etc.
@zacharyhalladay1342
@zacharyhalladay1342 3 жыл бұрын
Certainly
@stephenrozz8732
@stephenrozz8732 3 жыл бұрын
I would give more credit to this study if rxgreen wasn't a nutrients seller. Claiming flushing isn't working would increase the nutrients use by 25% so they money aswell. Not saying they are wrong but it's like the study against vape that in the end was financed by tobacco company.
@blizz2018
@blizz2018 3 жыл бұрын
I aggre with you and how about growing with soil and organic nutrients vs hydro and mineral nutrients is there a diffrence in taste quality and so on?
@KingKong-mp6gj
@KingKong-mp6gj 4 жыл бұрын
Dis is debunkin of da highest oda!
@nickphinney9568
@nickphinney9568 3 жыл бұрын
It takes at least 3 to 4 days after flushing to get results , so testing the product right after its done is not a fair test the plant needs to start to dry out again b4 anything would change . Always flush dont ruin your hard work make time and flush no one wants chemical tasting weed . Plants would be green as hell still with no flush
@paddymills
@paddymills 3 жыл бұрын
Yes thank you mine burnt black .. Even the kief
@wonkeytjuuuh
@wonkeytjuuuh 4 жыл бұрын
i always flush, with every strain, doesn't do any harm and it's something i'm used to take into my routine
@michaelversant8401
@michaelversant8401 3 жыл бұрын
if anything it saves us nutrient costs
@wonkeytjuuuh
@wonkeytjuuuh 3 жыл бұрын
@William Rice yep! you're totally right, this is a very good video. I didn't flush once and my flower tasted really bad and burnt black. (most likely my fault since i had no idea what i was doing) so i think it's more of a superstition as to why i flush, throwing 65 grams in the garbage isn't fun either!
@apsert
@apsert 3 жыл бұрын
Ask yourself, in nature, do fruits ONLY fall off after a down pour or simply, when they are ready? Answer lays within!
@dickdiamonds3410
@dickdiamonds3410 3 жыл бұрын
Flushing works. I've been growing indoor for over 25 years. I don't care what any scientist says. Its obvious that flushing improves flavor,color, and final smoke. I wonder how many of these "scientists" are paid by nutrient companies, or other data bias influences
@PhannySanchez
@PhannySanchez 3 жыл бұрын
Do you add sugar or molasses into your flush?
@ziemelbriedis
@ziemelbriedis 3 жыл бұрын
does this refers to soil grow as well or only hydro? thanks
@quentinaskin6752
@quentinaskin6752 3 жыл бұрын
Both unless you're Organic and flushing can help prevent foliage tip burn and possible nutrient lock out like cold water can sock plant into nutrient lock out.
@stefanoaliatis4851
@stefanoaliatis4851 4 жыл бұрын
If this is true then flushing is a good practice since you're saving 2 weeks of nuts and use only water
@allanh6667
@allanh6667 3 жыл бұрын
When I didn't flush i couldn't keep a doob lit. It would crust up. I haven't had that problem with a 10 day flush at the end. Coincidence?
@ethdsththwethr7220
@ethdsththwethr7220 3 жыл бұрын
yes coincidence. mine doesnt do that and i didnt not flush at all and since for some reason people think synthetic is a factor i also used synthetic nutes
@allanh6667
@allanh6667 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethdsththwethr7220 i use pro mix and your general salt based fertilizers. I have well water with a ppm of 370 out of the tap. The times I didn't flush the accumulated salt build up after a 90 + day grow ...I am certain that the higher than normal for nature NPK salts were deposited in the bud because there was issues with keeping the damn joints lit, or getting bowl hits. When I started using distilled water to flush....all my negative fire + bud interactions disappeared. 100% NOT coincidence.
@ethdsththwethr7220
@ethdsththwethr7220 3 жыл бұрын
@@allanh6667 ok few things here, for one if your actually flushing for saltz thats on you dude, you just need to water till run off which is not flushing. you water till run off throughout the grow, again flushign doesnt do shit, its 100% coincidence and you're just lookign for some reason to say flushign is useful because thats what you want to believe, flushign is only good for ph lock outs, other then that the beenfits of taste and white ash from flushing is 100% myth end of story
@Str8GasGenetics
@Str8GasGenetics 3 жыл бұрын
The thousand other factors you didn't mention. Improper drying, curing, pulling plants early, etc. It's a stupid myth that has no backing in science
@michaelversant8401
@michaelversant8401 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethdsththwethr7220 Agreed, when i hear the word flush something has gone wrong.
@perveetv
@perveetv 2 жыл бұрын
So then what creates white ash in some weed as opposed to black ash? Would it be more an issue with the drying and curing of the buds???
@MIGROLIGHT
@MIGROLIGHT 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Yes the ash color is due to the moisture content in the bud. Thanks.
@shawtop
@shawtop 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing migro. I've never flushed mainly because Im to bloody impatient haha, once I did it once, I never flushed again, 👀👀💯
@TeW33zy
@TeW33zy 2 жыл бұрын
Damn these 2 ladies have some knowledge. The both of them should get together and create the best exotic strain known to woman. As of 2022 it's still FPOG (Fruity Pebbles OG) which is a cross of Green Ribbon x Grandydaddy Purp x Tahoe Alien OG. These 2 ladies should try a new strain called Lady OG Diesel. Create it.
@MrE1981
@MrE1981 4 жыл бұрын
Answer: Inconclusive one way or the other, flush or don't flush, it doesn't matter much at all statistically.
@TheFingolito
@TheFingolito 4 жыл бұрын
It would depend on your growing medium and method. If you grow in hydroponic methods it would make sense to use less nutrients in the end phase, A for taste (can be discussed) B for money. But, let's say you grow using living soil then there is no need to flush because the soil is having the nutrients and the microbes feeds the plant just what it needs. No need to flush. So both ways works I guess.
@blainelyster496
@blainelyster496 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheFingolito well if you think about it, flushing the root zone for 2 weeks with plain water will make the “plant” look for nutrients in its leaves, I mean with live soil I’m sure your working with 50 gallons or more of soil, but still, using pure water in the last two weeks will trigger the plant to look for nutrition in itself, this will increase thc,terps, and overall potency, even though your live soil has a shitload of nutrients sitting in it, pure water will signal the plant to collect its nutrients it can’t find in itself, the lower older leaves and branches.
@blainelyster496
@blainelyster496 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheFingolito I seen a lot of sources about it, but with live soil I don’t know if you would see much a difference as live soil has all its nutrients in the soil already , ready to be broke down by organisms.
@TheFingolito
@TheFingolito 4 жыл бұрын
@@blainelyster496 Hey man! Yeah I see your point and my interpretation is that this "nutrient deficiency" that we create when we flush is to simulate the natural depletion of nutrients in the living soil that we would find in the nature where you in teh beginning fo the year would have a more nitrogen rich soil because of the degradation of leaves and stumps from the previous atumn and then when you grow indoors you would use a no-till or living soil to emulate the same environment. You have to keep in mind that when we grow indoors you are simulating a 9 month grow over 3 months or less so you will always have a stressed plant and with that lesser potency. Pure water as much as I know does not "trigger" anything, its just that when your plant is out of nutrients in the soil you will start to see nutrient deficiencies which is what you call that the plant us "using up its storage" which is an intepretation but not entirely in line with what happens with the plant on nutrient level. Love this conversation and its so much to learn! :D God bless you brother and your family in this time of health and economic difficulties!
@ethdsththwethr7220
@ethdsththwethr7220 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheFingolito doesnt do nothing for taste at least for coco
@WayneStakem
@WayneStakem 4 жыл бұрын
There's so many old wives tales in the cannabis community. Have you ever heard of the one in which they split the main stem of the plant towards the end of the flowering cycle? Believing it increases potency.
@4qutube234
@4qutube234 4 жыл бұрын
I know with certain strains, the stress caused by this can produce some nice colors but overall, it's quite useless to do lol
@professor4202
@professor4202 3 жыл бұрын
yep, the cannabis growing community is full of bizarre ideas and bro-science bullshit. just this year i had someone who has 'been growing for 40 years' (haven't they all?) swear up and down that you should dig up your plant, roots and all and boil it to cause whatever, whatever, bullshit, bullshit. there are so many bizarro world practices in the cannabis community. just look at all the butt-hurt bro's in the comments...
@MrBongstrow
@MrBongstrow 4 жыл бұрын
i've tried flushed and unflushed, i can't taste any difference!
@chuffamarley8120
@chuffamarley8120 4 жыл бұрын
I would happen to agree
@BC-nl9ph
@BC-nl9ph 4 жыл бұрын
@@OG_VeniVidiVici agreed. Bring down temps, bring down hours of light, water with colder water... I've even seen someone put ice in the pots in the last few days to replicate snow!
@professor4202
@professor4202 3 жыл бұрын
this video makes so many bro's out there so butt hurt. running gallons and gallons of water through your grow medium in some insane effort to 'remove excess nutrients' from the plant is the dumbest idea ever. why doesn't a famer 'flush' their asparagus or apple crop for instance? no bro-grower has ever been able to answer this question...
@DanielDroegeShow
@DanielDroegeShow 3 жыл бұрын
It is to remove the nutrients from the soil, not the plant. The soil is where the plant gets them from. I also don't coat my buds in wax much like apple farmers do. Should I be doing that too?
@professor4202
@professor4202 3 жыл бұрын
@@DanielDroegeShow lol, except every bro is like "you got to flush to get those excess nutes out of the buds so they smoke smooth and you get white ash and blah, blah, blah." you can do whatever you want pal, but if you're flushing your cannabis, i'm going to point, laugh and mock you. notice that you completely skipped my question: no other farmer 'flushes' their crop, why the fuck would you do it to cannabis? also, i grow outside, in a garden that's about 20 feet by 40 feet. how do i go about 'flushing' the soil? how much water should i try and run through...the ground? won't removing all the nutrients from the growing medium negatively impact the other fruits and veggies that i have growing there?
@geminikid21
@geminikid21 3 жыл бұрын
This was well needed thank you ❤️
@Merlin-wo1kj
@Merlin-wo1kj 4 жыл бұрын
Cure process is far more critical to the outcome..
@Merlin-wo1kj
@Merlin-wo1kj 4 жыл бұрын
@jase gtree Yep, no reason to flush them, the key is to not use too much regarding nutrients to begin with, most people waste $$ on them. Curing correctly is what separates good from great.
@TheFingolito
@TheFingolito 4 жыл бұрын
So, based on this, Is it the curing process (breaking down of product) that will give that white clean ash and good taste or the ripeness of the bud?
@BC-nl9ph
@BC-nl9ph 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm trying to narrow down. I think you would have to do this test backwards... Get a few samples of 'hard ash' and 'white ash' and then analyse them in a lab and try and find patterns there...
@TheFingolito
@TheFingolito 4 жыл бұрын
@@BC-nl9ph I am not an expert but if chlorophyll is what gives that fresh grass harsh taste then I would say that it most likely depends on the A) Ripeness, because it is a form of degrading already by the plant and in the nature you would have a depletion of nutrients in the soil and then leaves falls, autumn and the rest we know. So, it's probably a combination of both cutting the plant while it is not yet in its point of ripeness and then then curing process is mostly likely not done as it should giving a minimum of 3 months in 50-55° humidity. For us that smokes medically (I dont use tobacco for example) you notice immediately when it's not as 'it should'.
@BC-nl9ph
@BC-nl9ph 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheFingolito OK I think the ripeness argument could be a good way to go... The old adage "when you think it's ready, leave it a week" is kind of lost on a lot of people these days... Chop it early, dry it quick seems to be their mantra!
@xx1xxxx1xx69
@xx1xxxx1xx69 3 жыл бұрын
Grey Ash or Black? I personally want to see Grey Ash at the end of a Joint. Nothing wrong with a good flush!
@bcbradley
@bcbradley 3 жыл бұрын
Have any of them tried to burn a joint that has black ash and won't stay lit? Weird science
@PeterKKraus
@PeterKKraus 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they had included not watering at all for 0, 7, 10, and 14 days also.
@6themaker
@6themaker 3 жыл бұрын
You do it and I’ll sub
@c.v.3721
@c.v.3721 3 жыл бұрын
there are some vids: here is one in german kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6m7laptqpZmmdU just use subtitles
@PeterKKraus
@PeterKKraus 3 жыл бұрын
@@c.v.3721 I don't speak or read german., much.
@c.v.3721
@c.v.3721 3 жыл бұрын
@@PeterKKraus sorry didn't see it has only german subtitle
@professor4202
@professor4202 3 жыл бұрын
you don't ant to water your plant for 2 weeks? why?
@alexborowski3409
@alexborowski3409 3 жыл бұрын
I think a lot depends on the human palate as with food.to me personally flush weed tastes much better....
@micktronic330
@micktronic330 4 жыл бұрын
This is great information, big thanks for the research and sharing it.
@wazzy8867
@wazzy8867 4 жыл бұрын
They should research which nutrients are better. Use a few different brands to see if there is much difference
@jesseindabag2023
@jesseindabag2023 3 жыл бұрын
Organic
@sickoffence4632
@sickoffence4632 4 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when tobacco companies want to start growing your marijuana too
@leslieottaviano5749
@leslieottaviano5749 4 жыл бұрын
seriously! SHANE RUN AWAY FROM THESE PEOPLE DO NOT TARNISH YOUR BRAND. Thanks for the comment Sick Offence. I remember doing research on RXgreen years ago. I was given some of their products years ago at a show. PH was completely outa wack. Ended up on my tomatoes in the yard.
@Trottelheimer
@Trottelheimer 4 жыл бұрын
Some specifics, please. Are they really a tobacco company? Why exactly are they bad? How would they tarnish Shane's brand?
@Brwykk
@Brwykk 4 жыл бұрын
Pics or it didn't happen 🤪
@locallyhatedstunts
@locallyhatedstunts 3 жыл бұрын
Who farted at 8:06?
@getbennt
@getbennt 4 жыл бұрын
What if we flush out heat at the end and moisture, I do because I’m a photographer and I get great colors.
@jayperez3431
@jayperez3431 3 жыл бұрын
that's just called a proper simulated Autumn flush my friend!
@HAPPYHERBS1
@HAPPYHERBS1 3 жыл бұрын
@@jayperez3431 senescence.
@jayperez3431
@jayperez3431 3 жыл бұрын
@@HAPPYHERBS1 good luck running into that with plants if taken care of properly. Clone a clone of a clone and so on, you will not see senes. Grow a plant for 20 years, you will not see it. Flower and cut every bud but one off, reveg and flower again, repeat; you will not see senescence.
@Gulfgrown
@Gulfgrown 19 күн бұрын
Flushing. Just my experience over a few decades. I imagine trying to flush all my outdoor primo in the woods every season. Use the right organics indoors and there's not a problem
@KwissBeats
@KwissBeats 4 жыл бұрын
Great mind blowing video, still hard to believe. I’ve been flushing since I started 15 years ago. Only thing I’d like to add is that one of the things that does happen during flushing is that the color of the plant gets less dark overall. Which hypothetically could make your buds more attractive once dried.
@professor4202
@professor4202 3 жыл бұрын
why did you start flushing? because someone told you to?
@priayief
@priayief 3 жыл бұрын
@@professor4202 I am brand new to growing cannabis. I practiced flushing because I couldn't find any evidence-based study that suggested it was a waste of time. Such are the risks of relying on anecdotal information and testimonials. Unfortunately, the cannabis community doesn't have many evidence-based studies available. And I got sucked in!
@professor4202
@professor4202 3 жыл бұрын
@@priayief yeah, that happens. i've got some stuff for ya: www.rxgreentechnologies.com/rxgt_trials/flushing-trial/ atrium.lib.uoguelph.ca/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10214/12125/Stemeroff_Jonathan_201712_Msc_with_erratum.pdf hightimes.com/grow/new-research-shows-flushing-plants-before-harvest-may-be-unnecessary/ kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYW6l4agr9apgqs
@priayief
@priayief 3 жыл бұрын
@@professor4202 Excellent information and just what I have been looking for. Thanks.
@professor4202
@professor4202 3 жыл бұрын
@@priayief you're welcome1 the migro video is pretty awesome. the two scientists are quite succinct and informative. it's 29 minutes well spent. happy growing!
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