DOES LETHAL NEED LEVEL REQUIREMENTS? (Space Marine 2 Discussion) Patch 5.0

[@nathancawley8759]

Yes. Expecting randoms to carry your shitty zero-perk low level character thru lethal is peak entitled behavior. The reccomended level for each difficulty should be a hard limit unless you successfully solo that mission, on that difficulty, with that class first.

[@MasterFuckingMer]

Based

[@Abrax3s]

I agree in the lethal level requirement, but not on the other difficulties, anything under lethal is very doable with a level zero character and just a single purple weapon. Yes if you jump in with nothing levelled at all it is entitled behaviour, but locking the non lethal difficulties behind a level is also just stupid

[@borone1998]

Level capping Lethal sounds like right way to go, because some people wont read or even acknowledge the recommended levels to go through a difficulty.

[@jamaledwards8118]

This will sound crazy but I actually enjoy carrying teams. I know its an ego boost but i feel like my rank and cosplay demonstrate how top my character is and how I want to live the fantasy. I got everything I want and need so failure is not devastating anymore. When you play a mission and everyone is good you get that badass feeling of being apart of a pro team in this game. However when I know I'm playing with beginners based on their weapons I know the challenge just escalated by 10x. One game this happened and both my under level teammates died. I spent 5 whole mins fighting a fresh incoming horde and when I survive after all the fighting and my teammates respawn the way they played the game changed. We moved as a unit and it went from me keeping them alive to them keeping me alive. We were able to complete the mission. Sorry for the long message.

[@BrentCox2B]

0:25 Gene Seed is pronounced Jean Seed bro. Like a pair of jeans kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaPNnqyorpZ1rNUsi=CnFcKbs8LDmyHMyc

[@tamalesftw]

I think that’s just how he talks, tbh there are a few times when I’m like what? Like minoris/majoris or auric where I was like wtf is this guy saying but he is very informative so I give him credit.

[@BrentCox2B]

@tamalesftw Yep he does a great job!

[@TooTrue22-24]

He literally says it purposefully to increase engagement…

[@BrentCox2B]

@TooTrue22-24 I actually watched a youtube video the other day where this young kid was explaining how he was so successful making youtube shorts channel and he said he would purposefully say things he knew were incorrect because he knew it would make people comment haha

[@Daubeny-pm8vk]

K

[@BrendanMaNiA]

They need level requirements on EVERY difficulty. If it says you should be level 10, make that the required minimum. So annoying having low levels join every game. Also should make it so you can choose your class BEFORE searching to avoid character being taken.

[@milquetoast261]

I go lethal missions solo, with the other two bots, I think it would be a little nice if the bots would get a random set of team perks? Just to maybe make it slightly easier sometimes? Or just have extra? Of course to the corresponding level they would presumably be for each difficulty. Like how they have relic weapons on lethal and ruthless. I think this would make you not need to matchmaker so much cause of people like this?

[@Starkiller09]

This is why I switched classes every match or 2 at the beginning, so all the classes were always a level or 2 from each other. I was able to use any class I wanted and had them all around 20 at the time, I didn’t want to have a 25 and low level other classes and have people think I was a new player trying to do harder difficulties

[@Tekkados]

when i see a low level in my lethal run they absolutely get kicked, like i'm not here to carry you go do it with your friends but don't grief my games. they definitely should put a mandatory level requirement for lethal in.

[@DrObi0us]

wouldnt even give it a second thought I'd vote kick him.

[@AJ-zu7ct]

Exactly😂

[@pyratepotter4850]

No, me and a friend took a level 2 bulwark who is new to the game through all 8 maps on lethal difficulty so he could level up his class and weapons. People need to find communities to play with to avoid the randoms or deal with it. The game is already easy enough as it is. BTW we did this yesterday, pre patch with “broken” fencing weapons.

[@radu808]

I use to do lethal with the venguard at lv 17 but will a fully upgraded Melta

[@TheBlastmeister]

Not necessarily. I wish the game showed weapon levels/total level as well so you could tell the difference between a completely new player and a vet leveling up a newer class. I've hard carried for players twice my level in Lethal just because of skill and weapon level (Bolt pistol, my beloved).

[@MrGomoma]

I did this when I was changing class but my pistol was maxed out just good with parrys and dodging

[@mac7858]

Sabre has just dropped update 5.001 and reverted the parry system back to pre-patch levels. They’ve also buffed the blocking system too make it more viable as well.

[@warangelthelight2077]

No! Dang .....

[@malehumanperson7901]

Weapons upgrades matter more than class levels. I'm level 25 on all classes bar Assault and all weapons are relic except the thunderhammer and heavy bolt. I'm level 1 on Assault but could do a Ruthless with relic weapons.

[@Abrax3s]

Agreed, all you really need to get through missions is relic weapons, class level matters little if you have 1 or 2 relic weapons on you

[@TheRandomASDF]

Yes, I have so randoms with non or low upgraded weapons and their answer is: „ITs nOT mY MAin“. I mean at least have a teamperk online and the weapon on tier 2…

[@johncollom5698]

Yes I was playing with a bulwark without the heal banner and it's was annoying af

[@Darkwater1886]

I have multiple lvl 25s. Have beaten every mission on lethal with randos. Joinded a Ruthless mid match with a lvl 20 as an Assault mid horde. Surprise surprise I took some damage from getting jumped INSTANTLY. Guy had the balls to talk shit to me for getting injured. Yeah, talk shit in a co-op game and see how smooth your game goes.

[@Angel-ob8md]

Yes levels should be required for Lethal. Idk about other difficulties I don’t think it’s that bad, but I’m not gonna be coming back for you when your lvl 15 no build character is getting ass blasted and falling behind on Lethal.

[@JigSawFrags]

Gene seed drops on the floor if you kicked them on the spot. No harm done. Unless the lvl 1 is being carried by a friend I got no problem with. But a rando? That’s the rando’s problem.

[@clover8775]

If he's good, he's good. Leave him be.

[@careyosoup274]

at least be lvl 9 w/ relic weps, so you bring something to the table. your might not have a meta perk loadout, but you are not coming in empty handed at the very least.

[@xenosayain1506]

It needs reworks. My biggest complaint about the difficulty system was timings changing for dodges, blocks, and parries. It changes the mode from a heat check to a high stakes mode yiu have to relearn. My opinion, keep dodge and parry windows the same, keep the dodge windows the same, and keep the increased enemy damage/aggression. Uve beaten about half of the missions on lethal and though doable because I have to change my timings it just isn't very fun for me.

[@RaduAdrian-f7k]

The parry bug was fixed for fencing weapons. If the low lvl players know how to play and are of course, using relic melee and relic pistol, they wont be fodder.

[@deathbyspeed2]

The game does warn you if you choose an underleveled class. There definitely should be some requirements. Like for example I feel you should have to complete all the operations on ruthless before being able to queue for lethal. Being underleveled isn't the issue I encounter most though. That award goes to people not sticking together in lethal. I find myself more often than not chasing down my battle brothers that run off during massive waves. Running away seems to be peoples go to rather than standing and fight. I don't understand. If you can't stand your ground during a massive you should probably not be in lethal.lol

[@weediestbroom]

Yes. And ruthless. They should all be locked behind the existing suggested level. Sure you might have relic weapons and i won't kick anyway but you definitely don't have perks and if you keep going down you're just wasting everyone's time

[@radu808]

yes it does if you unde 23 you should not be allowed

[@Bboy235]

It’s pronounced Geen Seed

[@_Velocity91]

Sorry imo just don’t be a dick and play lethal/ruthless low level, especially lvl 1.

[@rcore4089]

not nessesery if u have usefull team perk....

[@soulanski]

short answer is no. Some of the worst people J have seen at this game have been fully maxed out meta players. They are not upset they have to carry you. they are upset you are not able to carry them

[@pole8740]

honestly some of the worst players ive come across have their shit max and still feed like crazy, no spacial awareness, no desire to do the objective, they just run around and get killed by a spore mine

[@Eleftherios323]

Yes