Does Scout Deserve The New Crossbow? (yes.)

[@ranger8099]

I'm personally excited for the crossbow, since I tend to use my secondary for single target damage. However, it may be tough for me to swap from using imbedded detonators.

[@shadowhaxor99]

Very understandable! I hope the crossbow has some cool builds to make the choice easier. That weird looking arrow at the end of the reveal footage has me intrigued...

[@donutholebandit]

As someone who uses impeded detonators, how are you liking the chemical explosive bolt?

[@Anothergingerman]

The crossbow could end up being the most effective way to deal with swarms for scount, kinda crossing my fingers for some kind of gas bolt or maybe exploding bolt.

[@shadowhaxor99]

I hope those ideas get in! Scout could do with just a teeny bit more crowd control imo.

[@Anothergingerman]

@@shadowhaxor99 yea switching between the classes it's really apparent how weak scout is sometimes.

[@happywiz1833]

If I saw correcly bolts pierce enemies, so... kinda?

[@CMT_Crabbles]

As a scout main, I absolutely agree with everything said here. I'm excited for the Boltshark, and can't wait to see all the special arrows they teased. I'll try my best to make a loadout with the M1000 + Boltshark, but not too optimistic about it.

[@beaniebeh]

I totally agree with the "only single target damage thing". Scout really lacks crowd damage weapons, so thats why I personally use a versatile build for him. I use hipster for not only single target but also to burst down large groups of bugs, then I finish them off with max reserve ammo zukovs. Its pretty effective on crowds, however I recently got a ricochet oveclock for the boltshark so I may not use the zukovs anymore since the boltshark may be more effective.

[@shadowhaxor99]

I was surprised with how good the boltshark can be at cc. It's not as good as most other classes weapons, obviously, but it is much better than I was expectiong! Good build btw, I think I'll have to try it out!

[@kollinbode6569]

Though I'm one of the more sceptical people, with the hints about different bolt types, if we have the option to focus on that, I think it'll find it's place. The idea of a more support focus sidearms could suit him pretty well. I'm just afraid it'll just end up being a single target weapon as we already have 3/4 for scout.(depending on how you categorize his assault rifles)

[@shadowhaxor99]

totally understandable. Scout is very limited when it comes to AoE

[@comet.x]

1:47 something, anything!

[@shadowhaxor99]

finally, someone understands what I want from my viewers

[@jacobfoxfires964]

I am pretty excited about it. Some people were pretty skeptical about the crossbow but I think after that dev stream, which showed it had a unique ammo mechanic that can give it many different types of arrow types, people have really shaped up to like it. Maybe as some kind of tier 5 mod where you can pick from 3 different alternate arrow types. But yeah this weapon will be a nice addition.

[@TheTreesmac]

I like it because it fills a secondary niche that wasn't possible for scout before , a high damage high accuracy secondary that allows scout more options of what he builds his primary weapon Plus the various different ammo types has me interested to see what other possible support options he could have , like a ranged grenade bolt for example

[@Strelok3892]

Aehstetically i think it fits well enough. Since the world has both high tech stuff an really jury-rigged, low tech, cobbled together stuff. Mechanically it looks like a "long" range secondary, who scout lacks, so why not? Its cool.

[@Daughter_ov_Lilith]

HELL YEAH! birthday party when?

[@shadowhaxor99]

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[@mellowstayhigh77]

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[@shadowhaxor99]

Thanks very much! I hope your enjoying the game, and I hope that your friends join in too! They can't escape it forever... Deep Rock will consume us all one day.

[@cryptictentacle3844]

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[@shadowhaxor99]

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[@impetuousllyps5]

Scout is the only class I play, because of mobility alone 😑, but I've found the plasma carbine and crossbow are a pretty solid combo and worth giving a try. The only downside I've kinda noticed about the bow is being greedy with the ammo drops, since you can't retrieve bolts from kills or hits 😑

[@nornornornor9204]

The not being able to retrieve bolts from hits makes no sense to me. I see how it could be op but right now it’s super underpowered compared to the other secondaries.

[@shadowhaxor99]

It's tricky to figure out, since the crossbow isn't really meant for big targets like you would expect. The special bolts are very good at dealing with crowds though!

[@blackjew6827]

The only thing Scout needs to do is light up the cave so I can see what I freeze.

[@Yokoto12343]

Heeeya maybe im first for this one!

[@shadowhaxor99]

Seems like you are! Congrats!

[@coldtech06]

It looks cool, im just worried because in the clip the player spend too much time not killing bugs because he needs to get arrows and put them back in.. maybe we will get some mods to offset that, or maybe it's a small price to pay for more ammo?

[@giova2704]

I cant bring beer for the birthday party because I can't buy it yet, is it ok if I bring the stuff under the sink instead? Mom said not to drink it so it must be for special occasions!

[@cucam7733]

Back then I was hoping the crossbow would be a primary weapon. That would be cooler imo.

[@Tidbit.97]

1) aesthetically I think a Crossbow works REALLY well to fit in with the Neo-Dwarven style! 2) I’m absolutely pumped to see how this will be implemented! I thin it may pair with the GK2 and Plasma Carbine Very Well!

[@shadowhaxor99]

Same here! Love this weapon so much, and I'm really excited for it.

[@TacticalReaper56]

Feels chunky and the OCs i have. All of them are fun.

[@Tidbit.97]

Also, you said Scout’s main job is to take care of high priority targets. Is there a way to sup up the job of each class this way to give a better starting place to understand each roles’ goal in the team?

[@shadowhaxor99]

That is a short question with a long and complicated answer lol. I love to get really into the classes roles and functions so i hope you'll forgive me as I start diving into this. I should have specified in my video that scout's main role in combat is to kill high priority targets. Outside of combat, scout should be providing light and collecting minerals. His insane mobility makes him the best at getting to hard to reach places, and getting into optimal positions for taking out larger threats. Scouts mobility also gives them great survivability, meaning scout is likely the last to go down if they know how to use the grapplehook effectively. I made a video about this a while ago, and I plan on making another, but Gunner's main role is actually less focused on killing bugs than most people would think. Gunner is a supporting character. Whether it's keeping bugs at bay, setting up reliable ziplines, or using shields, Gunner is great at keeping teammates alive and making it easy for them to do their job. Of course, that doesn't mean gunner is weak by any means. Gunner is also great at taking out priority targets, as well as large swarms. In combat, he truly is the best of both worlds. Driller is the class I have the weakest understanding of, so I recommend seeking other players to get better advice lol. That aside, I think Driller is amazing at crowd control. While it is possible, he lacks a lot of good single target damage options for his weapons. Driller has excellent control over the space, being able to keep bugs away from key areas. Driller is also good at controlling the space in a different sense, able to destroy any terrain that gets in his way. Driller is also able to handle close quarters combat better than anyone else, meaning that he often becomes the first line of defense. He can get himself in and out of trouble at a moments notice. Engineer is all about control. While he has the capability to do amazing single target damage, Engineer is a god of crowd control. With turrets, nukes, and mines, if you've got an area that you want to keep safe, Engi will make sure no glyphid even looks at it. He is also the only character in the game with the ability to create terrain, something that should not be overlooked. You can make areas safe, keep bugs out, or get a better vantage point. Enig is all about having a plan for anything and everything. I shouldn't say much else though, I've got a new video about engi in the works ;) anyways sorry about the long rant, hope this clears things up! I'm looking to do videos about all the classes so maybe one day you'll be able to listen to me for a whole hour lol

[@LittleFairyCirno]

grappling hook crossbow but you can swing like spiderman aw yea

[@shadowhaxor99]

I think there's a mod for the grappling hook that lets you swing like Spiderman actually. Looks super fun!

[@drarenthiralas1683]

As a scout main, I respectfully disagree. I think this weapon still looks rather boring despite the highly detailed model, and that it also looks like it would conflict heavily with the M1000, which is the most popular main weapon on Scout, in its role as a long-range, high-damage precision weapon. I will recommend you some Scout builds though, since you mentioned that you could use more variety. You can pretty much freely mix and match the following primaries and secondaries: M1K 23211 Hipster - great for swarm clearing M1K 23221 Hipster - great if you can get consistent weakpoint shots Deepcore GK2 21213 Bullets of Mercy - pretty good all-around weapon with high burst damage, but inferior to both M1K builds DRAK-25 32112 Thermal Exhaust Feedback - good all-around weapon DRAK-25 32112 Overtuned Particle Accelerator - massive burst damage, but no accuracy Boomstick 21313 Compact/Stuffed/Shaped Shells - all three listed overclocks are about equally good on this one, I usually run Shaped Shells Zhukovs 13212 Cryo Minelets - try to get above the bugs with this one, goes great with the Deepcore build above Zhukovs 13232 Embedded Detonators - amazing damage potential, as long as you remember not to overkill. Can wipe out swarms through pure damage (with no blowthrough or splash), as long as you pace your reloads properly EDIT, 2 months later: Now that the update is out and I've had a chance to actually play with the new weapons, I have to admit that I was wrong. The Boltshark is a great weapon, and a lot of fun to use, mainly because of the special bolts.

[@shadowhaxor99]

Hey thanks for sharing all these builds! I have a lot to try out now lol, looking forward to getting in more practice! As for your first comment on how the crossbow competes with the M1000, I think I'm going to have to disagree. Based on the footage, it looks like it might actually be better at mid range combat. Considering the projectile will certainly move slower than a bullet, it'll be harder to hit long distance targets. I do agree with it does conflict with it as a high precision weapon, however. For now we'll just have to wait for more gameplay to get a better understanding.

[@drarenthiralas1683]

@@shadowhaxor99 hey, you have a good point about the projectile, I did not think of that! I have a little more hope for the Boltshark now

[@heliodorespecht6083]

you're so late you're just in time for the gunner secondary haha

[@shadowhaxor99]

Yeah, I'm going to buckle down this weekend and try to get a video out lol.

[@crowan1400]

B U N G U S.

[@mateuszkusz5593]

With shotgun and special powder being a thing, this weapon imo, is set up for failure.

[@shadowhaxor99]

I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here. Special powder is good and all, but I hardly think it's good enough to render an entire weapon irrelevant, especially since it's not even trying to do the same thing.

[@mateuszkusz5593]

@@shadowhaxor99 Out of all classes, Scouts dieing due to fall damage is the most common thing. Having shotgun and special powder not only allows you to ignore grappling cd and its range but also stops you from going down like a total green-beard. His new primary is more than enough when it comes to dps. With that in mind, turning secondary into utility tool is in my opinion something that sets you apart from all scouts ppl are making fun off of on Reddit.

[@shadowhaxor99]

@@mateuszkusz5593 I think I understand a bit better now. The utility of special powder is pretty incredible, I'd just encourage you to give the new weapon a shot once it's out. Like any build in this game, I find that with enough practice, it can be really enjoyable! If you want to stick to your favorite, that's totally understandable! Regardless, I hope you have a good time playing. Rock and Stone!

[@cntipede1000]

Not sure how it doesn't fit? Every game has small but very vocal minority of complainers.

[@danielalbright92]

Something, anything. Even if you disagree with me I want to go and have that conversation with you.

[@someguy3330]

I liek bows.

[@shadowhaxor99]

me too

[@animacje2126]

what kind of cake?

[@shadowhaxor99]

Dairy Queen blizzard ice cream cake. Thinking chocolate chip cookie dough.