Does spinning a sword work? The Moulinet

[@Snnoy]

Your videos are a goldmine for preparing D&D combat descriptions.

[@Ki6FHX]

Yeah, unless max dexterity, a miss is likely described as some sort of parry or feint instead of duck etc unless attacker is obviously slower

[@Ki6FHX]

But they do say D&D is "theater of the mind"

[@nicholaskissell4243]

I was thinking exactly this.

[@negan9055]

Unless you’re going for cinematic over practicality

[@timetraveler0002]

me: i do a spinning attack with my sword dm sellsword: you get stabbed in the back and die

[@JainaSoloB312]

I came here looking for evidence for an internet argument (he was claiming no historical fencing system ever used sword spins! Absurd!) but I absolutely loved this video. The way you explain and demonstrate is easy to understand, and then sparring with those techniques so we can see the efficacy for ourselves is awesome. It's great to see such camaraderie and respect between you two, it sets a very good example for aspiring HEMA members such as myself, and the discussion about safety was similarly important! Very impressed with this channel, instant subscribe💜

[@maichka15]

I'm here after a Witcher fight description said Geralt goes for a Mulinet and my zero understanding of sword fight was like 'is that another dance move like the pirouette?' And here we are. Thanks for making it so much easier to imagine the cool bits!

[@ekoz]

I love the energy you bring on this channel, you and the people you film with synergise very well and it's super entertaining to watch.

[@TaijDevon]

I lost only 4-6 to an olympic fencer from Penn State. He even stopped the judge and said 'no you missed how how he hit my wrist'. Sure he knew he would win but the honor is so impressive.

[@n0wheregrrl]

"I'll try spinning! That's a good trick!"

[@wulvershul]

keep up the content guys loving these deep dives into things showing what really is possible with sword fighting compared to movies/games

[@jakubekch.3621]

I mean... It could work... If the person handling the sword would be like 10x faster than the opponent... But those pesky phisics are getting in the way

[@frandy_0]

Most probably in animes where the protagonist just gets a random power to do it 😂

[@hz.kemalpasa2997]

if you’re x10 faster than your opponent just stab him really fast duh

[@RageBearer]

the moulilet is actually more of a wrist flick hes using alot of elbow which for the move is unnecessary and seeable its about getting around the other sword

[@maddriim]

Honnestly I am pretty happy to have found you guys! Love all the content you made👌

[@Dyundu]

I am so very happy I found this channel.

[@SkimJeezy]

In my heart you all are Witcher’s 😊

[@r.b.rozier9692]

Then where are the coins

[@T-verseTrevor]

Hmm... So, would this technique be applicable with different grips, like when you're wielding a longsword in a two-handed grip?

[@SellswordArts]

its a lot harder with a two handed sword, but not neccicarily impossible. its best with one handed weapons. there are spinns that work with two handed swords, but the mechanics are different.

[@T-verseTrevor]

@@SellswordArts Would you be willing to do a video on these different spins? I ask because... Well, to be frank, I'm curious and because it'd be interesting to see.

[@magnusnordeidebrede892]

With a thumb grip, like in the German styles of Longsword, these spins are really great after a parry in some kind of hanging or ochs guard. I was showcasing HEMA Longsword for a collegue with a stick each, and caught a diagonal strike from him on my left side with a right hanging parry, and he asked "what if I just apply pressure?". That's when I just lifted my arms up, pointed the stick down to my left, moved my hands to the left side of my body (so my pommel would be pointing to his left shoulder) and swung the stick with the thumb grip from above at his left shoulder. He barely had time to recover, even with so little pressure.

[@jaketheasianguy3307]

Yes, look up Stramazone. A technique very similar to the Moulinet in Vadi Longsword, cut with just wrist and elbow instead of whole body

[@hobgoblin6551]

I used to do lightsabers with some friends (saberforge, ultra saber, etc) and I have no formal training just practice through the years, and I worked out a variation of this move. Block high and swing the saber quick around the back of your own head for a strike in the opposite side of the opponents head. I put it in to practice by watching Obi-wan, if you watch the prequels he makes a lot of large strike over the the top of his head uses his wrists, it surprised a lot of my friends quite often 👍 (this move doesn’t account for the amount of force you can put into it or edge alinement, so only really works with light sabers I think 🤔)

[@jeffreymonsell659]

That's the interesting thing about light sabers. Force and edge alignment wouldn't really matter.

[@Dyundu]

@@jeffreymonsell659 Well, one might argue “Force” is a factor . . .

[@ConernicusRex]

This is the gayest thing I’ve ever read.

[@catocall7323]

That's done with the dussack and polish saber. In the end position and timing are the key.

[@sjoroverpirat]

1. How different would you fight if it was an actual fight with your life at stake? Would that change a lot with different weapons? 2. Another reversegrip question. How about to long daggers, with one in reverse? Like electra.

[@johnnyjohnson6643]

Electra uses sai (As does Raphael, the mutant ninja turtle), not daggers. They’re a lot easier/safer to spin in your hands than daggers are, but they’re still not designed to be used with reverse grip, and there isn’t a practical use case for holding them in reverse.

[@aronsvanlaugsson5338]

In summary, don't spin except when spin works, mhm mhm Nice video, glad i was awake and saw that dodge video short, you guys got some guud shit videos so keep that shit up!

[@dungeonmaster217]

Just when I started to think about witcher, you mentioned him and said that you are not witchers :D I absolutely love choreography of swordfights in witcher games and show. And I want to ask everyone - do you think it's justifiable to spin if you are mutant with heightened senses, reflexes and way better balancing and movement control than regular human? To get more energy for his cut. Especially if he was trained to fight against monsters in the first place.

[@KendoSwordsman]

Yeah... Second video of yours I've watched and you've earned my sub. Like this channel. Great work.

[@DateMasamune1636]

Do a video about throwing swords like a javelin

[@C43P9]

Skallagrim covered that topic a few years ago.

[@DateMasamune1636]

@@C43P9 Ik

[@KendoSwordsman]

I haven't fenced (European) for ages, since I was in my teens but this reminds me of how interesting and enjoyable it was when I tried it out back then.

[@hotshotroom964]

You mean I can’t spin more than a gambling addict at a slot machine?

[@D516.]

jedi moment

[@spacewiz163]

Hi Sellsword im curious to ask if you can do retractable swords?

[@DendieselGaming]

do you have any advice or tips on why to NOT do a jumping stab? one that I've seen movies do a lot with swords and spears

[@Kingdomkey123678]

You have no structure when you are in the air, makes you vulnerable to being knocked down

[@nightshade7240]

You didn't address the reverse moulinet. it requires a pióro or false edge, but striking someone in the right way with the spine of the blade will cause damage as well that allows you to capitalise on the position of the blade. There are also reverse moulinet from resting position that are extremely fast and unexpected that lead into plays like the hellish fourth. You can also moulinet into angles and cuts with the pióro that you can't do with a single edged sabre. Moulinet can be used as a feint as well. As for spinning swords and body there are techniques, like the retreating wrap in chinese swordsmanship. I don't know if you'd consider a wrap itself a spin or something else but there are wrap cuts that can set up effective moulinet use. I think the Spadone might be the most terrifying sword because of the patterns of circular cuts you are taught to deliver that will brute force their way through other weapons that aren't also a Spadone or Montante, also the weight and length are almost impossible to overcome without a weapon of the same size or longer.

[@davidmacey5422]

You also cover cavazione and commanding the line

[@lesgoshooping6695]

How do you start in swordfighting?

[@jakubekch.3621]

Look up a school for it somewhere near your home

[@sparrowhawk81]

If there is a fencing club of any kind in your area, go check it out. Even if it is sport fencing. The most important parts of fencing are footwork and distance and you will learn good footwork and distance control at a good sport fencing school. If the instructor at the sport fencing school knows anything about historical fencing, tap into that and make good use of it. Start with sport saber and/or epee. If you meet anyone along the way who seems interested in historical stuff, you could go from epee to small sword, then to what we are using here which are dueling sabers (sometimes called heavy sabers), then you could go to rapier and/or longsword, but don't rush it. Learn respect for the weapons and regard for your own safety. If you get into something like rapier or longsword too prematurely and you don't have the right attitude or approach, you could hurt someone or get hurt. Longswords are blunt, but they can hit hard.

[@chopstick1671]

@@sparrowhawk81 I agree with joining a fencing club of any kind, but I don’t think you per se need to build up to rapier or longsword... just be sure to have the right protective gear for the weapon you want to use and have fun; just choose the weapon you like and learn that.

[@SethisRio]

What kind of blade uses spins? Did you say montong tai blade?

[@SellswordArts]

Montante

[@SethisRio]

@@SellswordArts Thank you so much. Ive been wanting to see it. I will have to look into this definitely. Edit: I’ve see good and bad. But I do believe it’s a little flashy if you go down to the roots. I honestly want to get into sword combat. I just don’t know where to start.

[@catocall7323]

​@@SethisRiothe montante is big enough that you can cut from a safe range and it can be quicker to attack again with the spin than trying to slow the momentum and rechamber a strike.

[@miker2288]

One question, is the use montante sword figures viable (besides obviously the Zvihander)?

[@TaijDevon]

I would spin with a leg sweep. But not much other moves. Tiny aggresive movements are how you are taught foil, big straightforward movement are how you are taught saber, fletch being a case in point. Ok maybe inside tornado kick with sword blocking theirs but that is really advanced move.

[@TaijDevon]

Ok, just practiced it. Color me an enthusiast. Looks like it would really work provided you spent more than two years on a tornado kick. That thing is not something you learn overnight.

[@johnnyjohnson6643]

Y’all should work out some kind of collaboration with Jill Bearup! 🤩

[@bruh-xx1li]

Haven't watched the video yet but it sounds interesting 👍

[@r.b.rozier9692]

All movement is expended energy. If you are moving it should be effective.

[@gabrielzinho3230]

Loved the video

[@metooo668]

So it looks like most people in a sword fight both people die.

[@antondelacruz9362]

It is a lot more common in single stick.

[@charlescowan6121]

It's movie b.s. to make it more dazzling and entertaining.

[@leogabriel5422]

Found your stuff on tictok, sorry about what happened.

[@TaijDevon]

Yeah looks like Italiante to me with extended sword.

[@edwardfritz1266]

That's what I always disliked about movies and shows. People try to copy those two much and claim to be masters then they twirl and spin their bodies and their weapons and I'm just starting at them like "you serious? If this wasn't practice then you'd be very dead...." My brother does that stuff and it drives me nuts. The reverse gripping a blade too.

[@yevanasvetya5486]

My question still remains, Did u guys actually sells sword? Or do you guys only practice the art of selling sword? And to be honest u guys aint looking like merchant either

[@sd1m3]

First of all Haha Second sellsword was often a title for mercenaries.

[@WhitneyBuchman]

I definitely put these in the category of only used when you egregiously outclass your opponent. You're literally only doing it in mockery and/or it is your one time in life that you can get away with it without getting stabbed in the back. Like 90% of cinematic combat moves.

[@SellswordArts]

The Moulinet is a very effective combat move for the reasons we outline.