Does the GTX 1080 Thermal Throttle?

[@Under6001]

If this happened to an AMD card it would get so much shit. Meanwhile Nvidia is always misleading consumers and no one gives a damn.

[@14supersonic]

AMD is no different, they are companies, and are bound to bend the truth in some way. Just like how AMD promises that their new cards are going to be great VR performers, but what about gaming in a traditional sense? These are the tricks of the trade, and no here said anything about giving Nvidia a free pass.

[@Music42Ever]

"no one gives a damn" >comments on a video 100% about nvidia thermal throttling

[@joseluislopes3956]

its a reference cooler, no ones is going to buy this cards unless to watercool them. They are atually more expensive then partners coolers

[@theoneyoudontsee8315]

agreed!

[@rushdrift]

+José Luís Lopes no one? tell that to amazon its sold out

[@Jayztwocents]

Oh man, its only been a few minutes and the ignorance is already running rampant. SmH.... there needs to be an age limit and IQ limit on comments section.

[@deadizbetter]

I have a feeling your talking about that "doubleyourpee" guy.

[@dawsonwikkerink7207]

Do you mean IQ Minimum?

[@orlandogonzalez3939]

Ignore the trolls. Nice video , you gained a subscriber

[@ethannewhouse7541]

Also know as a Lower Limit.

[@DoubleYouPee1]

My bad, I didn't know Crysis 3 was still so demanding. I guess it really is badly optimized... It's not like that scene is very active or with huge draw distance or whatever.

[@hussainrt3242]

"i'm so proud of you son" -gtx 480

[@attackperson47]

LOL

[@theroyalcam]

LMFAO

[@attackperson47]

greatx7 grandson

[@TheVanillatech]

Classic!

[@ktc7576]

what about Nissan GTR-X 480X??

[@brysonshires9573]

GTX 480 rebadge?

[@brysonshires9573]

trolololololololololololololol

[@brysonshires9573]

Cancer Slayer ok :(

[@TheFancyCreeper2412]

+Bryson Shires I'm joshing ya

[@brysonshires9573]

Cancer Slayer Lol, ik

[@theoneyoudontsee8315]

it cant be a gtx 480 because my asus gtx 750 (non-ti)2gb card outperforms the gtx 480.

[@GamertagO1]

Why no custom fan curve? you were at 82c with only 50% fan speed. that's a big problem.

[@Icy233]

Yea, because using high fan speeds is too mainstream apparently... :/

[@GamertagO1]

ok, so you moved out to 80%. I have my fans hit 100% by 65c. I'll take noise over high temps any day. I'll never buy reference/"founders", cooling is never as good as say twin frozr or another 3rd party cooling solution.

[@GamertagO1]

+Iceberg 233 Hmm. I turn my case fans and GPU fans up, I never hit 70c and I have two 980tis.

[@Icy233]

NGT OI I was being sarcastic. I don't care about the noise either, all that matters is performance.

[@GamertagO1]

+Iceberg 233 Oh, I got the sarcasm. I was just saying that for an example. It seems like Jay would have already had a custom fan profile unless he wanted to demonstrate the bad temps. Just weird.

[@iongarcia881]

My 1080 brings all the nerds to the yard, And their like, "omg!", Dang right, its so hot, I'll let you touch, but you must be with your hands clean because it cost me a fortune to get one.

[@conquerduke2997]

+Morgan Williams pls, my ati radeon reaches 102 degrees

[@deldrinov]

I saw 114 on 8600 GT :D

[@kukri52231]

You guys are all poor. I'll be running this in 4 way SLI on my dual xenon CPU 128 gig water-cooled super silent glowing 4K quadruple monitor ultra custom PC. ha

[@deldrinov]

kukri52231 And who said we're still using these?

[@scootbmx01]

+WS Dylan, wrong. 3x and 4x sli is possible. Just needs a little work around

[@Nau4aa]

Pascal is just a Maxwell on speed, aka refresh. Remove the big clocks and you'll get Maxwells performance.

[@TheofficalTactical]

also with the die shrink, Polaris is what I'm waiting for

[@fritopendejo1933]

so AMD can do it, but Nvidia cant. Alright man good to know.

[@4lc441]

16nm vs 28nm? Bit more than a refresh lol

[@arwlyx]

Yeah, AMD gets away with 3 years of rebadging, but Nvidia ACTUALLY making an improvement EVEN IF it is based on Maxwell, which I doubt regardless, is bullshit. These guys need to stop worshiping their case badge so much.

[@NicholazWoW]

+george vengrovski Vega man, Polaris is just power optimized cards that show similar performance to maxwell. Vega is gonna kill with HBM2.

[@ElonSmallPP]

So, Nvidia basically made a faster R9 290x reference card.

[@Longgshot]

Yup. But without async compute. lol

[@ElonSmallPP]

The largest GPU endeavor in human history, and this is what we get. I called it when they kept saying 2x the performance and 3x the power efficiency of Titan X, just marketing hype. Sure, it's good, but I'd like to see what AMD could do with the kind of budget they put into this.

[@umuza1]

They said double the performance of the Titan X in VR, not with regular gaming performance.

[@elliotschmidt1559]

+Naga Sadow a rebrand with 16!!! gigabytes of vram

[@ElonSmallPP]

+Umuza I know, and that's why I said it was marketing hype bullshit because they only classified that after the reveal. The press had to ask before they stated that.

[@THEREALTICKLEMYELMO]

AMD runs hot, all nvidia fan girls point tilt head and laugh ... NVIDIA runs hot , meh " running as intended "

[@romeotango5597]

It runs hot when boosting, and with a lot more density of transistors. And with much lower power draw. Kinda apples to oranges if you think about it.

[@Guitardrumr]

This is almost entirely to do with the rear exhaust cooler and the fan curve being stopped at 55% from the factory. As soon as he allowed the fan to actually do some work and set it to 80%, temps dropped to 77C. So it's perfectly reasonable to expect one of the aftermarket cards with a proper cooler on it to be able to hold mid 60C numbers without much issue, as long as you run a custom fan curve that bypasses the silly 'silent' mode they all ship with.

[@GuernB2]

Jay knows his shit, there are many others on KZbin that just perpetuate the misinformation. Thanks Jay for setting everything straight on a regular basis.

[@mitchmarvinmartian]

+1 For being such a pimp you get the very first full cover water water block.

[@doublebubleguy12]

Ha you just jelly;D

[@nock8900]

+Ninjanomikz he got it from EKWB not Nvidia lmao

[@doublebubleguy12]

Boller Neckbeards will defend AMD like the plague:)

[@amdintelxsniperx]

not much different then nvidia fans

[@Jayztwocents]

You think I defended Nvidia? You are literally as stupid as you sound. Like, seriously the level of stupid that must actually cause physical pain....

[@Kakaroti]

I can see Jay struggling here not to bite the hand that feeds him, but it's clear he isn't happy with NVidias BS Founders Edition rip off.

[@Jayztwocents]

Im not struggling. I already publicly stated that it is NOT 25% faster than Titan X in DX11 which was advertised, and now Im saying that their demo was falsely showing an unreasonable expectation on temperatures. How is that struggling?

[@virgin_kills4369]

Oh shit! Jay's laying down some knowledge!

[@philipr.7893]

+JayzTwoCents: Are you keeping the Founder's edition (read: reference) cards for Skunkworks? Or are you going to buy an EVGA, Zotac, ASUS, etc... card?

[@samhewitt4940]

Remember that performance was in vr. It seems the 1080 is well optomised for vr, probably because of that whatchamathingey thats also used for multi monitor that saves the gpu from rendering both eyes.(sorry i forgot the name)

[@samhewitt4940]

Might I also ask whether you benchmarked this in a actual case or just on a test bench, because I have heard that it performs considerably worse in an actual case.

[@refractionpcsx2]

The nvidia demo lined like they had vsync on, the fps stayed around 60 pretty much dead on, so the card want being pushed, hence the lower temperature. I'm amazed none of the techs who were there (that I've watched so far) have even mentioned or debunked that, but it seems such an obvious reason why the temperature was so low, I don't know why it is baffling you tech guys so much... I could be wrong, but nobody has said anything to disprove that theory that I've seen. Apologies if somebody has and I've not seen it.

[@refractionpcsx2]

Looked like * goddamn KZbin app, why do you not have an edit option??

[@refractionpcsx2]

Sod the other autocorrect errors , you know what I meant :p

[@GenerationVideoGamer]

You are absolutely correct. Because the card was locked at 60fps, that is all it had to do and it did it without breaking a sweat. Now if VSync was unlocked it would go full throttle and we'd see crazy FPS but much higher temps.

[@refractionpcsx2]

+GenerationVideoGamer exactly my thoughts, why are Jay and Co sounding so confused about this and not pointing that out? These are correct guys, surely they noticed!

[@Longgshot]

Yea, them showing that "demo" fixed at 60 fps and on a static background was really fishy. Btw, theres an edit option xD, the 3 dots to the right of the post.

[@MadsMagnus]

Good thing you come out as a big HW profile here on KZbin, and clear things up. This issue has been around on different forums and various unknown tubers for a while. Good job Jay.

[@AbsTechie1]

Thanks JayzTwoCents for letting people know about this could be overcomed while a lot of enthusiasts just threw out the idea that it thermal throttles. Thank you for going deep into it.

[@zabdi786]

Viewer: What was your ambient temp? Jay: Underboob sweat temp.

[@chrisdavies4323]

Humiditities

[@Redsmeg68]

what temp did you get with fan speed 100% and a gaming load ? Also will there be a water-cooled video ?

[@jahramika]

Well at 80 percent fans he said it was alreading throttling at high 1700's. Which mean gaming this cads will not do 1900.

[@Jayztwocents]

Nope. Im never doing a watercooled 1080 video

[@jahramika]

+JayzTwoCents was hoping to see if you could find out if water Coolin 16nm is more or less effective compared to 28nm

[@jordanmcgaw5591]

no... it stayed stable at the 1797 boost clock...

[@jahramika]

That's no where near 2100 or 2500 like all the talking was about at the release.

[@spkt0r]

Thank you for J getting that work done.

[@smerhawk]

Very concise and I finally understand a lot more about overclocking, ty Jay.

[@654pedro123]

your face while playing was pretty funny =P

[@Jayztwocents]

I was cringing at my own shitty gameplay

[@Jcrash1]

+JayzTwoCents abahaaha

[@Trust990]

does this mean that the *MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GDDRX5 Gaming X8* is much better in cooling then the Nvidia GTX 1080 founders Edition??

[@chriswho12345]

I expected a watercooled loop benchmark! Where's the overclock?

[@jahramika]

Sure he will do a water cooled test soon enough he just got his for the 1080. Keep in mind as he said this new chip is small and the energy is so concentrated might still not OC much more even on water. Water does not cool the chip it just removes the heat has from the chip compared to air.

[@chriswho12345]

Still will run at a cooler temp. Higher overclocks, but a much slower rate of heat transfer. I wonder what a 1080 could do if it was adequately cooled without a gimped vrm section.

[@evantheis4892]

+Chris Hsu slower heat transfer? I'm pretty sure it's same if not better there with a higher specific heat capacity, and in theory, more surface area for dissipating heat.

[@theintensegamer178]

so nvidia lied to its consumers to get a few extra bucks... what's new?

[@robertvanderveen4384]

An excellent video and nice to see someone explaining this so plainly ...cheers Rob from Tasmania Aus

[@Rayark87]

Jay looks so young back then.

[@84MadHatter]

we all did

[@lema_garage]

are you going to upgrade skunkworks to gtx 1080 (or any pascal card)?

[@justin-pk7436]

If you watched one of his previous videos then you will already know the answer.

[@frankjackson655]

+justin peperkamp well what's the answer

[@LuKaS2oo9]

+Frank Jackson 3x gtx 1080

[@retartedfreak]

Yes, they pretty much did, but jay is doing it anyway.

[@gigityyquagmire]

IDIOT

[@saswineey]

2010 called, they want their Fermi back

[@saswineey]

+Brandon Chambers does the gtx680 throttle at those temps? and it's a joke calm the fuck down fanboy

[@TheMrKeksLp]

the 480 throttled like shit

[@saswineey]

itzJanuary dayum right it did....lol

[@TheMrKeksLp]

Sashvin Raj It was cheaper getting a 480 than a ac unit

[@saswineey]

waddd...how much did it cost then????for the 480?

[@ReconsOfficeal]

im just gonna wait for amd's new gpu

[@rushdrift]

well if its polaris not really going to compete with the 1080, vega would though but hbm2 gonna be a expensive i guess

[@ReconsOfficeal]

+rushdrift i think im gonna go with vega

[@youvegoattobekittenme6908]

still on my hd 7770, going strong :^), just waiting for vega

[@Ebsalom]

You're aware that Polaris and Vega are completely new architectures, right? What's most impressive about AMD is how they were able to rival modern cards with a tweaked die from years back.

[@YehNahYehAyy]

"rival" lol

[@file1man]

jay shares his knowledge so well- for the 1080 change my temp target, change power limit, and or change fan speeds or water cool the gpu to minimize thermal throttle on the 1080 gpu reference cards

[@cokker]

Massive respect Jay, giving nvidia a little slap on the wrist but helping us with how to minimise throttling (on most cards too).

[@Latiosx123]

question: why isnt the auto fan speed ramping up despite the temperature?

[@Latiosx123]

alright, dumb question i get it now.. the fan curve is responsible for it

[@Jayztwocents]

The factory fan curve wasnt really letting the fan go past about 55%. Its too low which is why its throttling.

[@Latiosx123]

thanks for the reply, keep up the good videos

[@griffn1]

Is there a reason why from the factory at base settings the card throttles at around 82 degrees yet fan speed is only at 54%??? You would think that if the card was approaching temp limit and was going to start throttling, the default fan profile would go to 100%.

[@Jayztwocents]

They chose to air on the side of noise performance rather than thermal performance for whatever reason. I agree the fans should have ramped higher on their own. Thats the issue with early testing though, fan profiles werent available to us at the time of testing.

[@griffn1]

+JayzTwoCents it is just interesting to me that (for a graphics card that focused primarily towards gaming) they would choose to limit the performance capability to reduce noise as the default. keeping the card performing at its best should be default, with noise reduction being addressed in profiles.

[@DarkJaynx87]

Guess that 2 Ghz graphics card dream is over for now

[@mup8661]

Wait till ti version, or third party. Like always.

[@davidhouseman7151]

If you get a water-cooled card, you may be able to see 2 Ghz imo

[@Jayztwocents]

My card reaches 2100mhz with fans at 70% and minimal throttling, Just have to let it sound like a jet plane to do it.

[@spookyghost7524]

the new titan perhaps

[@KSATechnology]

When you take "quiet" out of the equation, you always get lower temps.

[@ganzonomy]

There is truth to this. I have a 1080 Classified, and at stock settings (all I did was switch to the LN2 BIOS), it sits put at 1987MHz in the low 60s to mid 60s C. It's scary to think that, between the Titan X's default at 50% and the 1080 throttling unless power target and temp threshold are raised up, these cards will thermal control (Titan X) or throttle (1080) as much as they do. I get that nvidia wants a share of the GPU market to itself with its own "it's not reference!" designs, but perhaps they've found the limit of that cooler's design, and should let 3rd party makers such as EVGA, ASUS, etc., do the cooling designs. Getting an extra 190MHz because of a combination of "out of the box OC," better board design, better power delivery, and much better cooling capabilities, even compared to a "liberated 1080" is nothing to sneeze at. I would love to see Jay do a battle of the 1080s. Take a normal 1080 and a completely non-ref but still air-cooled 1080, and without voltmodding or overvolting, see how far each one can go. Can any 1080 actually crack 2100? (PS: I'm getting that 1987MHz in an Obsidian 350D, so I don't even have the advantage of an open test bed)

[@acemcplane]

Helpful info in this video. This is why you don't by reference cards unless you plan on putting waterblocks on them.

[@formerlycringe]

>thermal throttling now I'm going to go /r/ayymd hey R9 480. You're about to play BF1

[@Grrizz84]

To be fair if you are happy with R9 480 performance you probably weren't in the GTX1080s target market anyway (mid range vs high end...)

[@finalcam1740]

+Sam B exactly... what will a 480 cost like 200$ and perform like a 970. so far off the target market.

[@Music42Ever]

lol thats not even close to 1070 performance, the 480 is going to be a low end card, AMD said so

[@joseluislopes3956]

970 should be something like the 1060, if the r9 380 performs the same as a 1060 and both cost 200$ then the market trend continues from this generation

[@Alex-kb4ve]

+Final Cam Leaked benchmarks put it at the level of a 980, we'll see though.

[@TheSickness]

100 bucks more for FE card, high fan speed(noise) and no OC headroom *facepalm* what were they thinking...

there just maggots. lol

[@fanchiuho1]

Fanboys. They can carry all the sales.

[@ScienceMarc]

They said the founders edition isn't supposed to compete with board partners. So it's designed to be shit and overpriced

[@brianhamel5640]

Lisa is right

[@ScienceMarc]

+Dakpan but it should really stand for "fucking expensive"

[@shredhead6665]

So you review an AMD card, it runs hot, you say its hot and then let everyone believe its hot. Then you review a Nvidia card, you say its hot, then try to explain to everyone its ok and here is how to get around it. Hard to trust these reviews anymore due to so much bias. I guess its hard not to be when NVidia is always throwing you 3 or 4 free top of the line cards all the time. Loved your earlier vids (2012-2013)

[@rushdrift]

so true man, was a sub when he only has 10k subs

[@HCkev]

Exactly. The worst is his totally lack of transparency in his benchmark video, he should have mentioned that he had to make a custom fan profile to get those results...

[@Shuubox]

Still miles better than that Linus fuckboy

[@chrcoluk]

excellent video jay, one of your best ones.

[@ArnaldoCastro2791]

Jay in this video you have more rationality than all the videos in the brazilian hardware community together. Thank you very much!

[@AshenElk]

What the hell? Why do people keep asking questions for which there are answers in the video?

[@Interrobang212]

welcome to youtube comments!

[@JChamberlin]

I know, right? LOL.

[@diazzsama]

I know it's just like school presentation

[@fortris]

Does he answer why he turned the AC off in his house? That part makes zero sense. Why the hell would you turn the AC off if it's hot enough to make you literally sweat?

[@fortris]

***** No A/C but drop $700 on a GFX card. Priorities I guess.

[@newport5504]

nvidia had aircon going with the system running.

[@TwoCraZyEyes0]

when does gtx 1080 launch again? i forgot

[@retartedfreak]

iirc may 27

[@umarahmad9097]

May 27th

[@IronmanToday]

I CANT WAIT X_X

[@noodles1916]

google exists

[@davidinark]

Thorough overview of what's going and a helpful solution. Great to see a video that not only poses the problem but offers an ootb solution (okay, you have to get a/b, but still, essentially ootb solution). Glad to be a new subscriber. Looking forward to checking out your other videos.

[@paulgo1146]

Very good video Jay, glad you made it. Clears up all the confusion surrounding this issue.

[@williamarthurfenton1496]

Even with the fan at 100% I can't see how they got 67 degrees at 2100 core.

[@GrayFoxGamingHD]

liquid cooling most likely.

[@williamarthurfenton1496]

They said it was on a stock cooler. I certainly believe companies will mislead all day long, but outright lying seems crazy to me, not because I'm naive, but rather because companies aren't really invested in committing commercial suicide.

[@Mismatch-]

It's because they weren't running a game. The GPU wasn't working at 100%, so the temperature being lower is normal. The fan most likely wasn't even locked at 100%.

[@C0manso]

Probably had an air conditioner directed towards it, or the room it's self was aircooled.

[@williamarthurfenton1496]

Plamen Yordanov Maybe, but it's still a GPU test though, no? I mean I remember not being quite as wowed by it as I expect they wanted us to be-- it's just a still of some people in a completely empty space. Again, misleading. Surely everyone knows such a test is no indication ever of real world performance? I have to say though I have a completely stock 980 ti, and the highest temps I get are about 75-- that is with a custom fan curve but the most it goes to is about 80-85%.

[@InnerFire6213]

and I'm here still rocking my r9 290 reference at 95c. [insert amd jokes here]

[@ryanjames6948]

Yes it has thermal throttling problems.

[@RigoSanzo]

Great video as always Jay!

[@robsmors]

Be sure to make an update video on the watercooled results and the mounting of the block! Looking forward to that!

[@r3vo830]

Long story short: Buy a partner card...

[@ArcadeMasters]

People setting here all hyped about the new 1000 series Nvidia cards, im just setting here felling all alone hoping that AMD will someday come out with a new CPU..

[@thebrowncan7212]

+Alex Skolznev rap god

[@ArcadeMasters]

Alex Skolznev : ^)

[@rushdrift]

er my gard i kan bear li rid dis

[@Sabrinahuskydog]

AMD's still 4 years behind Intel in the CPU And motherboard/Chipset department. (FACT not conjecture). They have -A LOT- of catching up to do.

[@mormegil231]

Zen is right around the corner...There even been some leak out that show very impressive stuff...

[@matthewkinney5474]

Why you only run at 54% fan speed if at 82C

[@chriswho12345]

default curve

[@SpaceClown404]

That takes more powee

[@matthewkinney5474]

+SpaceClown404 like 1W more.

[@SpaceClown404]

lol u funny

[@EspHack]

stock cooler trying to not make noise, pathetic

[@noureddineelaroussi7680]

To the the guy who said JayzTwoCents make these videos for money: well duh, of course, do you work for free sir? at least he is being honest, only a handful of youtubers nowadays are not biased, Jay is one of them, keep up the good work Jay, don't mind the haters, you deserve a lot more money than what you make here on You Tube, you're wasting your talent here and some people don't even appreciate it.

[@Cmon3play]

i love your background jay than your dark new background recently..

[@MrMortadelas]

So 1080...great for 1 minute benchmarks. Cooks it self if used.

[@baneblackguard584]

no, throttles itself so it doesn't cook itself

[@TheVanillatech]

Better than the 980Ti ! I was shocked I thought given the new 16nm process and full YEAR of developing Pascal and throwing 8GB DDR5X on a card would make a shitter card than the 980Ti ! Guess I was wrong ! I just don't understand why the 980Ti still costs a lot more than the GTX1080 though. That part makes no sense.................

[@TheVanillatech]

Vercusgames The 900 series were power efficient cards for 28nm processes. Polaris makes them look hot in comparison though.

[@TheVanillatech]

Vercusgames June 29th 2016. Official launch date.

[@TheVanillatech]

Vercusgames No. Polaris 10 is what is going into the Playstation Neo, the next XBOX and the new Nintendo console. Polaris is the R9 480 (Neo) and R9 480X. They are releasing in 4 weeks time. They have standard GDDR5 RAM, like the 1070. The 480 is as fast as an R9 390, but 1/2 the size and only needs 1/3rd the power. It is also around 25% faster under DX12 than the 970 and around 20% faster than the 390 under DX12. The 480 is also around £160-£170, compared to £240 (R9 390) and £260 (GTX970). The 480X is around as fast as a Fury / 980, but again it is smaller, needs less power and costs around 50% less than the GTX980. It will also be much faster than the 980 under DX12, and a little faster than the Fury under DX12. Basically ...... 1 GTX1080 = £620 2 x R9 480X = £480 Same performance ... only the 480X Crossfire will be a fair bit faster under DX12. June 29th 2016.

[@samfisherkiller]

watch the pcper stream with nvidia, the fan was running at 100%. watch that video, and you will hear it from the horse's mouth.

[@samfisherkiller]

it is called bullshit marketing, and lies.

[@Alex-kb4ve]

+The Bearded Computer Nerd Didn't you hear Jay? Nvidia just made a "mistake", they didn't mean to lie to us.

[@Alex-kb4ve]

+Artemis ...

[@MemphisPrime]

It wasn't a mistake, it was exactly what they wanted people to see. They didn't lie, but it was no accident that people interpreted the information they saw in the way they did. And what do you mean, "they didn't mean to lie to us", why does it matter if they meant to do it or not, Nvidia does everything for a reason and it was exactly what they wanted people to see.

[@rushdrift]

+Sergey Smith pretty sure that is called false advertising which in term lied

[@UberHaxorMarty]

Can you overclock the 1080 until it breaks? For science.

[@MrKrzys01]

Isn't this what AMD cards have been getting abuse for for years?

[@spikemaul]

Another great video Jay!

[@117johnpar]

This is the best video I have seen from you Jay

[@Mephistobr]

Another thing you forgot to mention users can do to solve this problem is returning this piece of shit card.

[@baneblackguard584]

that "piece of shit" card is showing some pretty phenomenal performance.

[@ivanalfaro3039]

...while cooking itself

[@baneblackguard584]

that's why you adjust fan speed settings, build pc's with good airflow cases, and monitor heat. and they don't cook themselves, that's why they throttle.

[@6969blair]

Hey JayzTwoCents, why did you delete coreteks's comments? Why are your reviews so shallow? And why the Nvidia bias? I get that Nvidia has made sense for the past 2-3 years in the $500+ market but why is that you never seem to show AMD some real love in the markets they compete in?

[@Jayztwocents]

Did you see this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWrGfI2ff9xphs0

[@6969blair]

I sure did, it was the most popular argument for AMD's 300 series. But what about coreteks's comments? Did you or did you not delete his comments?

[@Jayztwocents]

It's pretty obvious that I did. Since he wants to be antagonistic, he got what he wanted. Besides it gave plenty of fuel for his Imgur post, but unfortunately hes feeling the wrath of reddit as most people seem to be tearing him apart. Im moving on, its time he does the same.

[@6969blair]

Wrath of reddit? I read the comments, they reemed both of you. He was totally out of bounds himself but you as a professional were also more if not more childish about the whole situation. I understand people have bad days from time to time but people still need to own those bad days and make up for them. No one will fault you for manning up and saying you were out of line, we are all human after all.

[@nanokhuma419]

+One “Thaone-kid” Kid *facepalm* Nvidia TEGRA CPUs aren't even relevant to the desktop market

[@bently1984]

funny how when amd's r9 290 reference card's where hot [92c] and loud all the tech reviewers gave it tons of shit for being so hot but when nvidia does this its really not that big of a deal just kind of weird

[@svrvegasblackops]

82C = 92C?

[@ElliotRock]

Jay I am super keen to see a subscribers over time for you. peace!

[@snowstar3560]

Jay in this video is not biased or anything, it's just a review based on his observation with the card, chill guys. And yes he made it clear that the card will throttle, and he clearly showed us a live gpu reading in-game, results speak for itself.

[@MakoRuu]

Nvidia's base fan profiles are stupid. I don't care if my GPU is a bit loud as long my temps are good and it's not burning a hole in the chip. Thank God for after market tuning software.

[@HeavenEdit]

High fans speeds such as 80% - 100% are ridiculous. Even when wearing headphones, the noise will be obnoxiously disturbing. The noise will basically sound like a vaccuum cleaner then.

[@MakoRuu]

It really doesn't. I've been on a gaming PC that had a 980 ti at 100% fan speed. (EVGA's 980 ti SSC) And you could barely hear it over the speakers we had. Which were just Creative T10's at the time.

[@C0DFR3AK11]

well my r9 380 hits 52% fan speed max with a temp of around 64 degrees c

[@rushdrift]

well after market cooler is way silent, but 80~100% on a reference cooler does sound like a vacuum cleaner

[@MakoRuu]

It won't fucking break them. lol They're made to last for years. You don't have to baby a graphics card. I've put mine through the ringer. And it's performed beautifully. Although on my workstation board, it doesn't like being overclocked. Anyways, the point is, set up a custom fan profile and you'll be fine. Just like Jay did in this video.

[@chechar3dg]

Nice damage control you did, daddy nVIDIA must be so pleased

[@gamingmarcus]

How about you just stop caring about any promises, look at the raw performance and reviews and THEN accept that NVidia is still better than AMD.

[@ButterBradb]

Maybe on the top end but As far as mainstream is concerned....not really

[@gamingmarcus]

Depends on your definition of "mainstream" If you mean 380 and 390 you are far from right.

[@mrmagicBOBdude]

+P@r@m3d!© ???? AMD is about to come out with their new gpus but comparing last generation, the 390 was similarly priced to the 970 and performed better

[@gamingmarcus]

mrmagicBOBdude It performed very similar, with higher TDP, less potential for overclocking and much worse drivers. And about their new generation: we will see how it turns out. I won't care until I see a reasonable comparison between the two.

[@James-pf1vg]

Don't forget all them kuda cores... :D

[@Royal_Vengeance]

One of the nicest video you've done to date ! Great editing , script , camera work etc. Great one Jay ! Keep it up !

[@jirikocman]

JayzTwoCents many thanks for that video, it works absolutely same at my 1080 FE, keeping 1797MHz all day long, now waiting for EK water block :)

[@rmg222]

Very nice video Jayz! Tks man!!

[@NicsCarChannel]

Thanks Jayy, I just learnt what thermal throttling is

[@robwaygood394]

Thank you for another extremely helpful, detailed and informative video. Keep it up!

[@mardon85]

Interesting Cheers Jay. Looking forward to your non reference reviews.

[@williambanal8888]

jay nice review.keep up the good work man .

[@mcdonaldstitties556]

Thanks for the video. I saw your overclocking video and I was confused that I was building such heat on my 1070 FE. After making my own fan curve, it was way easier to understand overclocking as I was no longer pushing 80.

[@brandinricardo9810]

Great stuff made it super easy to understand and a great commentator thanks for the vid

[@paulsouch3577]

Solid work Jayztwocents. Cannot wait to see how it runs with a GPU block.

[@michaelwilkey529]

"More often than not it could be" - This statement means absolutely nothing. Much love +JayzTwoCents

[@monacocross4241]

i have gtx 1080 when play games 75-80 c. temperature its normal ?

[@alejandrodg82]

Great explanation Jay, best regards from Argentina!

[@sickler5]

jayztwocents im building a comp for my first time and your videos have been very helpful fyi thank you its much appreciated

[@Paelmoon]

Very interesting. Keen to see how the partner cards play out.

[@IAmYakYakTV]

@JayzTwoCents to speak on what you mentioned. this IS a gaming card, so hopefully people will be using watercooling in some form whether its AIO unit, Hybrid, or custom loop...so hopefully the thermal throttling wont be a major issue.

[@Nevoexpo]

Thanks for the informative video Jayz!

[@pjstran]

As usual, great info Jay. Thanks.

[@goldensdomain]

Thanks for this vid! I was going to grab a reference board on Friday, but now I'm going to wait for EVGA's ACX option.

[@Ray2001ify]

thanks Jay some love from capetown

[@IcEWoLF388]

Thanks for the clarification Jay!!!

[@aslangrande6334]

I know a useful and informative, straight-to-the-point video when I see one and this is most certainly such. Keep up the good work! Subscribed immediately.

[@sabzi5528]

Very informative, thanks jay!

[@phrantik69]

thank you jay for all your work!

[@TechShowdown]

Great video Jay, very informative, anybody with a founders 1080 needs to raise the temp limit and power limit!!!

[@wtfdinges]

Dayum Jayz you little tease. I honestly expected some watercooling results after that teaser :(. Fucking badass though that your block is in the EKWB promotion!

[@20superjason]

appreciate your honesty Jay. Can you make a video to show and explain the monitor option from MSI afterburner?

[@Mayanca]

Awesome video as usual Jay, but I must know..What monitor is that? I want one!

[@ianwakers]

Good video +JayzTwoCents. Would you consider doing another one looking at what happens when you overclock and keep the power target at 120%? Because a lot of people were saying that eventually the card power throttles after 5 minutes or more, too, but in your video it didn't seem to get close to 120%. That'll make a big difference for consumers because if it does power throttle we're going to want to avoid any design that only has one power-pin - and there I'm assuming that third parties will rework power delivery and add an extra one?

[@joefx69]

Fantastic video Jay

[@radtech246]

I've always ran 125% power target & 92c temp target on my reference 980, and a custom fan curve always helps. I don't mind the noise of 100% fan speed on the Reference Card XD

[@Jedicake]

So glad I'm getting an EK block for it.