Does The Porsche Cayman GT4's New PDK Automatic Fix its Gearing Issue? - One Take

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TheSmokingTire

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@GT1Zero
@GT1Zero 3 жыл бұрын
That’s like the most perfect drive anyone has ever gone on. No cars. Perfect lighting. In a Porsche GT car.
@wasimgotauzi9756
@wasimgotauzi9756 3 жыл бұрын
The people: We want short gears Porsche: NEIN
@ArchyCr250
@ArchyCr250 3 жыл бұрын
Correction : ''NEIN''
@RealRaynedance
@RealRaynedance 3 жыл бұрын
Feel like Porsche heard that wish as "We don't want turbos." and Porsche was _thinking_ "But do you really not?"
@theborth
@theborth 3 жыл бұрын
I think he said there's seven.
@wasimgotauzi9756
@wasimgotauzi9756 3 жыл бұрын
@@theborth seven gears?
@theborth
@theborth 3 жыл бұрын
@@wasimgotauzi9756 yea
@qotsa1
@qotsa1 3 жыл бұрын
That road looks money
@VanshGandhi
@VanshGandhi 3 жыл бұрын
Where is this road?
@topheavyteggy8232
@topheavyteggy8232 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like malibu by Neptune's net
@jetplume
@jetplume 3 жыл бұрын
This is Yerba Buena Road in Malibu, it finishes at Neptune's Net. It used to be undrivable but was just repaved last summer. I will say that if you have a fast car then parts of it are quite annoying because the turns are slow but stubby and you don't get to let loose. But the last section which descends to the sea is absolutely sublime. Also it's nice to see Matt drive these roads, I thought after all those people bitched about his driving that he got scared away from crowded Malibu.
@VIJAYSANKAR
@VIJAYSANKAR 3 жыл бұрын
@@jetplume Thanks!
@VRSProductionsInc
@VRSProductionsInc 3 жыл бұрын
@@jetplume why were people bitching about his driving?
@birani123
@birani123 3 жыл бұрын
God dam that car is so planted, it looks so good. Great job on the video Mr Farrah
@DB.KOOPER
@DB.KOOPER 3 жыл бұрын
_SUPER_ planted aye. What a brilliant chassis.
@Esmith5488
@Esmith5488 3 жыл бұрын
Timing for cyclists is a pro move by Matt
@kleinbottled79
@kleinbottled79 3 жыл бұрын
I like to do a slower scouting run for cyclists, road debris, etc, then you can take note of any cars passing you on your way back down which can let you adjust the timing part if you have a good gap or skip it entirely if you don't see anyone at all. But his way is ok for a car I guess. I'm riding canyons on a motorcycle so road debris is a big deal. Small patch of fine gravel in the wrong place can be baaad news. A rock you can see and (almost always) dodge, gravel can be sneaky.
@ronwolfept
@ronwolfept 3 жыл бұрын
As a 964 owner who likes to drive spiritedly road and track as well as an avid cyclist, I appreciated that comment so much. I was buzzed by a s2000 on a local road no shoulder with a speed delta of 100mph last month and that wasn't cool. Thanks again.
@9-and-3
@9-and-3 3 жыл бұрын
yes sure... pro move. until the lady with the dogs
@Kromer0
@Kromer0 3 жыл бұрын
100% full respect. As a cyclist and car enthusiast I approve of the timing
@Emon_Lusk_
@Emon_Lusk_ 3 жыл бұрын
​@@kleinbottled79 you would love it here, every summer the state puts tons of gravel on mountain roads so they don't have to fill up the holes. And right after that they fine you for your exhaust thats too loud. "for your safety"
@Nugrat1
@Nugrat1 3 жыл бұрын
Word Bro. You want the manual, get the manual. You want the PDK, get the PDK. Pretty simple.
@gky3019
@gky3019 3 жыл бұрын
Not as simple, as many were considering the PDK to have shorter gearing and therefore likely be more fun. However, the gearing issue is still there and therefore, the PDK doesn't really offer any gearing advantages, but just simply the fact that it is an automatic.
@cren1676
@cren1676 3 жыл бұрын
@@gky3019 so if you want to drive an auto, buy an auto.....
@ThatRosco458
@ThatRosco458 3 жыл бұрын
@@gky3019 Exactly. Unlike most cars the auto GT4 was considered possibly the one to get because the gearbox problem may be fixed. And auto with good ratios more desirable than manual with not so good ratios. But based off this video the problem is still there.
@zonapainter
@zonapainter 3 жыл бұрын
@@gky3019 it may not offer gearing advantages, but it most certainly offers performance advantages.
@joe718gt4
@joe718gt4 3 жыл бұрын
I have the manual. Gearing isn't something to complain about
@tracewaybos
@tracewaybos 3 жыл бұрын
Matt reviews a lovely twisty road, and a Cayman GT4 came along for the ride.
@Nugrat1
@Nugrat1 3 жыл бұрын
Better than the manual review.
@ssllhh100
@ssllhh100 3 жыл бұрын
porsche is like if you want short gears buy a miata ...
@gky3019
@gky3019 3 жыл бұрын
The Cayman has so much more potential than the 911 and Porsche understandably is scared of giving it what it actually deserves. A cayman with shorter ratios and a 9000rpm redline would be the best sports car on the planet, especially better than the GT3...
@orbitaljunkie
@orbitaljunkie 3 жыл бұрын
Was just about to comment this as well. If 2nd in the GT4 tops out around 70/80, that's the problem right there. Above the speed limit in most of the United States. Miata's second tops out at what... 55 or barely 60? For this kind of road I'd honestly prefer a Miata, but to each their own.
@gky3019
@gky3019 3 жыл бұрын
@Alaberti That cannot be the case, because the GT3 Touring has a 6 speed manual with a shorter final drive ratio, which shortens every single gear. Not to mention that the 4.0 of the GT3 is a different engine which produces a whole lot more torque compared to the 4.0 in the GT4. Ironically the shorter final drive should be for the GT4 instead. It's quite obvious that Porsche tries to hinder the GT4's potential, which makes sense because the Cayman would outperform the 911 any day, with the same power.
@gky3019
@gky3019 3 жыл бұрын
@Alaberti So what is your point ? They know they can sell more if they improve it...They keep improving the 911 but neer work on the cayman, while there would actually be a huge market for the GT4 if it would be quicker than the GT3. Most people owning GT3's just buy it because of the hype, they would buy the GT4 instead if it would be quicker. And since it can be quicker why is Porsche not improving it...Because of the reason i said earlier.
@jamaisvu2664
@jamaisvu2664 3 жыл бұрын
@@gky3019 Agree with this statement. The cayman has a lot more potential being lighter, shorter wheelbase, and better dynamics. It should have a 2nd gear top at 60. It weight less than 3,000lbs with almost 400hp. I would just have the wheel diameter dropped to a 19 or 18. At least one size smaller at the rear for a little more sidewall.
@hovnojede010101
@hovnojede010101 3 жыл бұрын
this road is something else, damn
@thatguymichaelhtx
@thatguymichaelhtx 3 жыл бұрын
That thing HANDLES
@yt0500323022
@yt0500323022 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts.
@kingGfour
@kingGfour 3 жыл бұрын
It's a porsche lol
@thedudeabides1443
@thedudeabides1443 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what Caymans do. All of them.
@taforth
@taforth 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are so fortunate to have roads like that near the coast in California!
@lwwells
@lwwells 3 жыл бұрын
That front end grip is really impressive.
@kuno0802
@kuno0802 3 жыл бұрын
If he took a GT3 up the same road he'd probably be in 2nd most of the time and nobody would say a word.
@TheSmokingTire
@TheSmokingTire 3 жыл бұрын
The GT3 has the most powerful version of Porsche’s engine and a perfectly matched manual gearbox. It is not widely reported that the GT3 was held back so as not to compete with faster models.
@aiGeis
@aiGeis 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSmokingTire What on earth does that have to do with his statement? It has long gearing, and a 9k redline to accentuate what is already long gearing into super long gearing. You nor anyone else would make a peep about it being in 2nd the entire time like the OP said.
@Zierfish
@Zierfish 3 жыл бұрын
@@aiGeis true... but let’s bash the ratios of the GT4 because after one youtuber said it you would be crazy not to say it as well. I happen to have a GT4 and in a real world scenario the ratios are fine. Making first shorter won’t really get you anywhere because: A: enough wheelspin as is B: the redline comes so quick you have a hard time shifting fast enough already. Bonus Point: a longer ratio means a higher top speed aaaaand I don’t have to drive at 5.000RPM while cruising 100mp/h on the autobahn. (That’s a thing we do over here in good ol Deutschland)
@TheSmokingTire
@TheSmokingTire 3 жыл бұрын
@@aiGeis I "peep" about it, bcause the Cayman GT4 is intentionally hamstrung so as to not be as quick or fast as the regular GT3. I don't want the GT3 to be faster; it's fast enough. I want Porsche to build the quickest and fastest Cayman they can, which they could do, but they actively choose not to do. That is the point.
@RidingWithBobby
@RidingWithBobby 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSmokingTire do you think they will make those changes to the GT4 RS when it is finally released? I for one, hope so.
@ricoraxelhd
@ricoraxelhd 3 жыл бұрын
Lesson learned... Cayman GT4: Awesome car! Matt: Knows some amazing roads! The better transmission: Preference!
@venom5809
@venom5809 3 жыл бұрын
That thing really hustles through corners. That road looks incredible. 👍
@brandonschooley8744
@brandonschooley8744 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta give credit to that cupholder for not slinging his beverage all over the place!
@alfredooliva5175
@alfredooliva5175 3 жыл бұрын
Ya this dude is an idiot. Always has open cups in brand new cars why he just doesn't have a closed bottle drink is beyond me
@Mtneer
@Mtneer 3 жыл бұрын
@@alfredooliva5175 His cup has a clear plastic lid on it. Why do you care so much? They’re press cars, people beat the shit out of them.
@jeebus2121
@jeebus2121 3 жыл бұрын
@@alfredooliva5175 It's a Yeti mug; the top has double O-rings and seals pretty well. They can be dropped off a desk onto hardwood and don't leak.
@Jesse_Nolan
@Jesse_Nolan 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeebus2121 can confirm this lol.
@blackhawkfan1988able
@blackhawkfan1988able 3 жыл бұрын
Thumbnail font makes the video look like a generic youtube drama video. This channel deserves so much more.
@taylorbean1890
@taylorbean1890 3 жыл бұрын
I believe they mentioned this on the podcast. Don’t quote me on this. But I think they said they hired someone to comb through their channel and tell them what they can do to get more eyes on their content. The thumbnails are definitely part of that.
@blackhawkfan1988able
@blackhawkfan1988able 3 жыл бұрын
I can understand that, but i hope Matt's business mindset will just look at this as crowdsourced feedback if he ever reads this comment. It just doesn't look polished to me.
@taylorbean1890
@taylorbean1890 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackhawkfan1988able fair enough. I agree that it could use some polish. I think it’ll get there.
@AnassRifaoui2
@AnassRifaoui2 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@edcain3676
@edcain3676 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackhawkfan1988able of by it
@rashaadadam3359
@rashaadadam3359 3 жыл бұрын
i dont know why people hating on the gear ratios ... the torque is enough low down and it has never been an issue for me ... for normal driving you dont need to red line the car all the time . Even with brisk fast driving it never was an issue (and im at altitude)
@alfredooliva5175
@alfredooliva5175 3 жыл бұрын
@ 1:43 One of the best looking cars to come out in a while...
@ehall15
@ehall15 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Matt! Well said about the manual vs PDK, get what you want to experience!
@details78
@details78 3 жыл бұрын
"Make sure to like and subscribe!" Now that was deliciously condescending 🤣
@アマ-p2l
@アマ-p2l 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta swim against the flow of the Niagara Falls of BS
@slaWterCH
@slaWterCH 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man what a road! Pleasure even to watch! As for the gearbox, I never expected PDK to change the situation. That would have been very untypical. Glad I have the manual.
@robmccall5017
@robmccall5017 3 жыл бұрын
Funn Fact: The Orders for the GT4 in Germany are 80% Manual Gearbox. (And so did I)
@mattmitchell5320
@mattmitchell5320 3 жыл бұрын
Matt, I saw a ton of those comments on the stick GT4 video, and in NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, were you condescending regarding the car at all. People are just too soft. You made great points about that gearbox.
@455LT1
@455LT1 3 жыл бұрын
I think it needs the tall gearing for emissions (I thought I read that somewhere). Seems to sap the fun out of having a quick shifting PDK if you can barely even shift in such roads. It's like driving a single speed go-kart around a track.
@ColeConnectionRLP
@ColeConnectionRLP 3 жыл бұрын
On that tight road, in that car with that camera position, it conveyed speed better than almost any video I've ever seen. You were canning that thing!
@3turbo144
@3turbo144 3 жыл бұрын
Dude why don’t you film here more?!?! Hands down the best road I’ve ever seen, even if you can’t always push that hard
@aceboogymullins765LT
@aceboogymullins765LT 3 жыл бұрын
This GT4 truly looks like it dances effortlessly. Complements to Matt's driving and the Porsche Machine you handled. Overall great ONE TAKE1
@JordanPayneLV
@JordanPayneLV 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that 79 mph second gear won’t make such a big difference. It’s really insane how long the gears are. My 981 S’s ratios are crazy long too
@kelvinchu6792
@kelvinchu6792 3 жыл бұрын
Matt, beautiful drive and awesome vid! I do think the criticism that the gearing is too long is a bit overblown, especially as it's not really that far off from GT3 gearing, which doesn't garner nearly as many complaints. For comparison, top speed for 997 GT3 is 85mph in 2nd, and 117mph in 3rd. A 991 GT3 is 77mph in 2nd, and 106 in 3rd.
@fkporsche1
@fkporsche1 3 жыл бұрын
another great video! Get right to the point, drive and review. I agreed. For my driving skills, I found the GT4 is much easier to handle than my previous GT3RS. Although more dramas and exciting on the GT3 motor. 🦅🦅🇺🇸
@whatsupwithsteve
@whatsupwithsteve 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos!! I thought I tired of my love of sports cars but after a couple years in my Lincoln Aviator I'm ready to get back to driving fun!!! This GT4 reminds me of my first car, a Datsun 510, albeit with a lot more tech and power. Thanks for the great videos!!!
@TeatimeAndy
@TeatimeAndy 3 жыл бұрын
Man!.. That road looks amazing! I'd still prefer the manual
@bcs528
@bcs528 3 жыл бұрын
Matt, been watching your reviews since you started and you’re my favorite car journalist. Never afraid to spit the facts, never sugarcoated and you drive like you mean it! Also pretty sure you just sold me on that beard trimmer lol
@mattsomeonewithansrt3948
@mattsomeonewithansrt3948 3 жыл бұрын
The manual version of the Gt4 in those canyons you couldn’t drive that fast unless you were Randy Pobst. You can clearly see to be able to control the car like Matt did at those speeds you need two hands firmly on the wheel.
@bikelifebreezy7400
@bikelifebreezy7400 3 жыл бұрын
Its called knowing and picking the right gear for the corner
@GuyGamer1
@GuyGamer1 3 жыл бұрын
@@bikelifebreezy7400 The real world isn't a racetrack, you won't know every corner.
@bikelifebreezy7400
@bikelifebreezy7400 3 жыл бұрын
@@GuyGamer1 1st rule of the street is to never take a road or corner fast that you don't know religiously. Any real street driver could use the manuals full potential, it just takes real skill
@eag8999
@eag8999 3 жыл бұрын
Disagree
@domloz3130
@domloz3130 Жыл бұрын
I so wish I had roads like that near me
@turbochoochoo
@turbochoochoo 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could drive my FiST on that road. Awesome One Take Matt!
@BiigMe
@BiigMe 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao, I'm trying to find what road this is specifically so I can take mine there haha
@JTube571
@JTube571 3 жыл бұрын
@@BiigMe Malibu
@scottcowan6798
@scottcowan6798 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t really see much of a problem with the longer ratios. There is plenty of torque and that long second gear is a weapon for quick overtaking manoeuvres. Make sure you have an exhaust valve control unit (Cargraphic) or a different back box and you won’t be left wanting for more. Ps I have a 718 Spyder with manual shift. Great review as always though.
@michaelsalter2473
@michaelsalter2473 3 жыл бұрын
I have a GTS manual and there isn’t a gearing issue, it pulls from 40mph easily in 6th and if you want it to go quickly you drop to 2nd. The car just pulls in any gear at pretty much any speed and you decide how fast you want to accelerate by changing gear. I did think I would probably change to a PDK in a couple of years but have no desire to, I love the manual.
@phwhitefly
@phwhitefly Жыл бұрын
As a cyclist and P-car owner, I appreciate the explanation about waiting for 30 minutes before going hard on the up hill road. Early morning canyon runs are the best.
@skirne_
@skirne_ 3 жыл бұрын
I had to make sure my playback speed was 1.0... that car dances
@mikers73
@mikers73 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video. Thank you for highlighting the difference between the ratios. Would really appreciate it if this same road was used for cars that tend to be lighter, shorter wheelbase, etc.
@michaelschneider-
@michaelschneider- 2 жыл бұрын
Ala a Lotus
@shazmaster
@shazmaster 3 жыл бұрын
damn sir, i was expecting a launch with the PDK! great review and I feel you on the auto vs manual driver complex. At the end of the day choose wat you want, they're both equally as awesome in this car. (BMW should learn a thing or two about this)
@tomasvelasquezvelez3050
@tomasvelasquezvelez3050 3 жыл бұрын
watching ads of a product that the influencer actually uses and that are not complete shit is rare these days, that's one of the reasons matt is, in my opinion, one of the most objective car journalists these days. no stupid phone games no one actually plays, of shitty headphones(raycons or whatever) just stuff he actually uses. kudos mate.
@keenanfitzpatrick9104
@keenanfitzpatrick9104 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think he really wears Vincero watches? He used to do those ads and they’re great sub $200 watches but Matt seems like too so much of a well off watch nerd that I expect him to only wear much nicer watches. He could tho. He did drive a FiST. I still agree with your comment regardless and Matt’s genuineness off his Vincero ads.
@matteugenio
@matteugenio 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing machine. Lovely road. I would still get the stick.
@slytherben
@slytherben 3 жыл бұрын
Look at that stitching!! Love the old cupholders SO much!! Use them everyday
@DB.KOOPER
@DB.KOOPER 3 жыл бұрын
I'd prefer a manual but this looks to be a _ brilliant_ car. Such an amazing chassis.
@sleepeatdrive7619
@sleepeatdrive7619 3 жыл бұрын
Woooow that video looked so fun to film! I had a PDK Boxster and can imagine how it would feel like driving on the amazing road!
@TheNeil20091
@TheNeil20091 3 жыл бұрын
Porsche are waiting for anybody that wants a manual just have your deposit and if you want a PDK there's another door for you just have your deposit it is that simple contrary to what people are fussing about. Me,I'm old school but would be foolish to turn down a PDK, quicker and easier round town. Too much people talking about track but then never get there.
@jonahhitchcock5821
@jonahhitchcock5821 3 жыл бұрын
Too much talk, agree!
@philspaghet
@philspaghet 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, manual is more engaging. Most track guys get the PDK so in your argument, get the manual
@Mr_GMS
@Mr_GMS 3 жыл бұрын
Someone who's old school doesn't buy an automatic
@JamesKromer-c2l
@JamesKromer-c2l 4 ай бұрын
As an avid cyclist and an enthusiastic driver of a Porsche, I am most appreciative of your concern regarding cyclists. Lycra versus a 4,000-5,000 pond car is a no contest!
@tom72545
@tom72545 3 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does this engine sound amazing?
@thedudeabides1443
@thedudeabides1443 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds ok. I’ve got a stock 981 and I have to say it sounds better but maybe because this is the Euro spec car.
@msl5254
@msl5254 3 жыл бұрын
@@thedudeabides1443 Hell Yes!!!
@a20axf
@a20axf 2 ай бұрын
@@thedudeabides1443yeah sadly we get screwed over by shitty emissions legislation 🙄
@asparceproton1
@asparceproton1 3 жыл бұрын
I've spent enough time in the Cayman GT4 CS on iRacing to know that you're still in 3rd gear most of the time. Fun car, but frustrating to not have at least 5 useful gears when racing.
@salangchoi02
@salangchoi02 3 жыл бұрын
People complain about the inconvenience of manual cars. Now, you just need to use two gears on GT4 on the public road!!! What is terrible about, uh? Don’t forget that you can always bring it to a track for full usage of manual gears.
@ImBarryScottCSS
@ImBarryScottCSS 3 жыл бұрын
On most tracks you wont get past third and you will be constantly raging that you aren't in the powerband when leaving corners because Porsche mated a high revving NA engine with a two speed box.
@tommihommi1
@tommihommi1 3 жыл бұрын
I think the gearing is more for the Nordschleife than smaller, more technical tracks with slower corners
@TheSmokingTire
@TheSmokingTire 3 жыл бұрын
The gears are too long for most tracks as well, and when your power band starts at 5,000+, you have to be going very fast to even be in the power band in second.
@riptiide9285
@riptiide9285 3 жыл бұрын
Have you driven a manual before? If by 'public roads' you mean in traffic then it doesn't solve anything. You're still gonna wear out your left foot in stop-go. And just because your first gear goes to 40mph doesn't mean you should stay in first gear all the time (holding it at high revs serves no good purpose)
@hallamring2036
@hallamring2036 3 жыл бұрын
Matt, since 2017 PDK has been almost telepathic in Sport Plus (no more redline shifts), you could have just left it in Sport Plus auto and let the car decide when to shift, that would have been helpful comparison on this video. Maybe with it would have decided there is enough torque to use 3rd more often and with lightening fast shifts it might have. I have dozens of friends with Porsches I go on drives with often, most have PDK and I can tell you they never use the paddles. I've started using mine recently just to experience something different on drives. Another comparison to this video would be to drive a 991.1 (i.e. non-turbo charged) 911 on the same road, see if you ever left 2nd gear.
@foxxrider250r
@foxxrider250r 3 жыл бұрын
Here for the Yerba Buena comments.
@ToxicSpiker
@ToxicSpiker 3 жыл бұрын
blaze it 🔥
@stephenmurchison2681
@stephenmurchison2681 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing car, amazing road, amazing video!! Your in-car camera work is the best in the KZbin business.
@AngelInTheDesert
@AngelInTheDesert 3 жыл бұрын
Patiently waiting for another Smoking Tire video
@SteveWeltman
@SteveWeltman 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, exciting review! That engine note is intoxicating. The Cayman handles like nobody's business. Totally a canyon carver. As far as the PDK vs the 6MT? Not all that important either way unless you have $110K to spend, but as far as daily use, either way could work, even in LA. Porsche builds amazing cars. It's my bucket list car (the Cayman GT4).
@wil_leighton1618
@wil_leighton1618 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for a review of the pdk! Thanks @thesmokingtire
@seinsmeld13
@seinsmeld13 3 жыл бұрын
I have the new Spyder, however, I detest the manual roof. If I knew the GTS were going to be available I would have ordered that model instead. Keep up the great work Matt.
@tractioncontroldelete
@tractioncontroldelete 3 жыл бұрын
More videos on this road please 🤟
@drbfitk366
@drbfitk366 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Matt, you looked so comfortable driving a very technical road!
@pkvillager
@pkvillager 3 жыл бұрын
I would buy this car based on this video alone if I could. Perfect road for the car and I would like a just the noise video.
@981_pdk3
@981_pdk3 3 жыл бұрын
In the meantime check out the sound captured in this video I came across yesterday. Can't understand a word the reporter says, however it's the sound like nothing I have heard on these new Caymans:- kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3ulqX2nl91mbM0
@marcnobel3938
@marcnobel3938 3 жыл бұрын
That handling looked amazing. - Great car and great Video!
@drewhoffman1461
@drewhoffman1461 3 жыл бұрын
The car looked like it was glued to the road. No tire chirping either. Amazing
@RogerBaileyOnCars
@RogerBaileyOnCars 3 жыл бұрын
excellent thanks for the information, I'm wondering, will the 992GT3 also come with tall gearing ?
@christianfloehr
@christianfloehr 3 жыл бұрын
This squeee from the brakes would make me crazy! This alone would make me go for the steel ones. Beautifull road with a beautifull car. 🤙🏻
@JoseRamirez-hw9vj
@JoseRamirez-hw9vj 3 жыл бұрын
TradeCraft yerba buena my man haha you cracked me up with that “made for me” comment. This One Take really showed how good you’ve become at your craft, stay up Matt!
@s0lidjesus885
@s0lidjesus885 3 жыл бұрын
When you're buying a car it's all about what makes you feel special. I drove my childhood hero, the Evo, and light to light I didn't like it. I drove an mx5 and a 128, I liked it but it didn't give me the fizz. Drove an STI and didn't like it. I drove a Focus ST and almost had it. Then I drove the Fiesta ST and within the first few gear changes, I was in love and had to have one. Still driving it stock power-wise and laughing all the way to work and back and take it for the occasional canyon day. Find what you like to drive, and the car that makes you feel special, and buy that.
@stms4411
@stms4411 3 жыл бұрын
Good for you! A lot of people might criticize the comparisons your making but f them.....you sound like a good-faith car guy (or chick) who found your car and fortunately it was very strong on the grins per dollar quotient
@jonathanngai5956
@jonathanngai5956 Жыл бұрын
can someone point me to where i can read more about this long gearing issue? i want to learn what exactly is the issue
@Guy_de_Loimbard
@Guy_de_Loimbard 3 жыл бұрын
Roads like this make me hate living in Hellinois.
@bv9613
@bv9613 3 жыл бұрын
I lived near Chicago for many years...
@Guy_de_Loimbard
@Guy_de_Loimbard 3 жыл бұрын
@@bv9613 Have you ever seen such pitiful driving roads? Lake Shore Drive is great for scenery... other than that you have to drive hundreds of miles to find interesting roads or anything interesting to look at.
@bv9613
@bv9613 3 жыл бұрын
@@Guy_de_Loimbard yeah, although I’ve lived around the country and while there are better places there are a lot that aren’t so good as well. That road in the video is amazing
@paul_howey
@paul_howey 3 жыл бұрын
The timing of this video is pretty perfect. Just sold my 991 GT3 and I'm not yet overly excited about the 992 GT3. Not to mention, the GT3 has just gotten too fast for public roads. I was considering a 997 GT3 but I have recently been drawn to the GT4 as I think it's the best of both worlds (997 GT3 performance in a newer package). I do think the manual is still the way to go but I totally see the case for the PDK.
@hellario2
@hellario2 3 жыл бұрын
Those squeaky brakes are killing me 😖
@hondansx1000
@hondansx1000 3 жыл бұрын
I think the GT4 is making a case for becoming one of my dream cars
@kingdomfunding
@kingdomfunding 3 жыл бұрын
Point of the story: Get the manual and get the gearing changed !! So simple !!
@sunnohh
@sunnohh 3 жыл бұрын
How do you get the gearing changed for less than the price of the car itself? Lol
@VarioFelce
@VarioFelce 3 жыл бұрын
@@sunnohh yeah it's like 40 grand
@kingdomfunding
@kingdomfunding 3 жыл бұрын
@@sunnohh it’s only like 10-15k
@connormckay9429
@connormckay9429 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like adding a Vonnen Shadow Drive system to one of these (whether manual or PDK) would truly turn it into the ultimate track weapon.
@spooler7828
@spooler7828 3 жыл бұрын
That road reminds me of The Tail of the Dragon.
@DeShawnaldTrump
@DeShawnaldTrump 3 жыл бұрын
Matt absolutely mogging this thing what a mad man
@Primitivegarage915
@Primitivegarage915 3 жыл бұрын
These cars are brilliant. Have you guys heard these with a good exhaust? They sound absolutely insane!
@thedudeabides1443
@thedudeabides1443 3 жыл бұрын
Sucks that you’d have to put an aftermarket exhaust on a $130k car to make it sound better.
@joe718gt4
@joe718gt4 3 жыл бұрын
@@thedudeabides1443 it sounds fine without an aftermarket exhaust. Doesn't mean I don't want one though
@thedudeabides1443
@thedudeabides1443 3 жыл бұрын
Joseph Herbias glad to hear that. I have a 981 which sounds awesome. Does it sound better or worse than the 981? Someday I’d like to jump up to this one.
@joe718gt4
@joe718gt4 3 жыл бұрын
@@thedudeabides1443 not sure. Never drove that and this is my first Pcar. Haven't even broken it in yet, but my opinion there is already a lot of drama in 3rd and 4th gear at 4k. If the move to a 992 GT3 or the rumored GT4 RS don't pan out, I am going to ring up JCR. I can also tell you that this car is even noisier stock than my previous SS 1LE I had a Borla Atak with
@Primitivegarage915
@Primitivegarage915 3 жыл бұрын
@@thedudeabides1443 in my opinion every car from factory is too quiet. But that’s just my personal opinion. I haven’t had a car I don’t modify, everyone is different. Different strokes for different folks.
@onethousandtwonortheast8848
@onethousandtwonortheast8848 3 жыл бұрын
That shade of blue is the cat’s meow. Perfect.
@TheLentastic
@TheLentastic 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like a CVT option for all GT models.
@Nugrat1
@Nugrat1 3 жыл бұрын
Troll
@ThatRosco458
@ThatRosco458 3 жыл бұрын
*Nissan has entered the chat*
@TranceFur
@TranceFur 3 жыл бұрын
It’s called a joke. Not everything is trolling, lol.
@tibor29
@tibor29 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the long gear ratios don't really matter that much in an automatic car. The reason why long gear ratios are a problem in the manual Cayman is because part of the fun of driving a manual car is running through the gears on accelleration and having to shift before and after corners. Having to stay in 2nd gear most of the time on spirited drives and twisty tracks defeats the purpose of owning a manual car. But with an automatic the experience of shifting is not as important. If it were that important to someone, they would just get a manual car. So personally, I don't really mind the fact that they haven't changed the gear ratios that much in the PDK version.
@jasonbrower1
@jasonbrower1 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to Shark Werks releasing their gearing update for the PDK as well. Hopefully that will make the PDK not just a great canyon carver, but track day weapon as well.
@michaelschneider-
@michaelschneider- 2 жыл бұрын
@Jason Brower .. +1. Now thats the ticket! . A re-geared PDK GT4 Cayman 4.0..
@lezzgp
@lezzgp 3 жыл бұрын
Joe. I don’t understand what the issue is with long gears. You’re driving a very special car. I love the way it’s doing it’s thing. You want a car that’ll hold its gears to give you more torque when your doing the business. I’d hate it if it switched gears when I want to leave a curve really fast. You want a car that shifts, go get grand dad’s car. This one is for the gas heads. Well done Porsche. You know your people. Drove the MK1 Spyder along the craddle of human kind in South Africa. That car was a beaut. Long gears perfect. Balance par excellance
@clyde5273
@clyde5273 3 жыл бұрын
What an amazing road!!! Also the car really shines on that road. After watching your video I really should be considering a Porsche Cayman GT4 for my next car, though I think I would still prefer the stick
@trevorwray
@trevorwray 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely my dream car in the manual spec
@mylifewithporsche
@mylifewithporsche 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great video, Matt. Tx! At one point up in the twisties your comments made me think that you were eating a bucket of fried chicken! The road is THAT good! I'll be down that way late summer (Sept?) in a new 718 PTS Spyder and have ear-marked the road. T Thanks again so much.
@roguecyphernetwork2938
@roguecyphernetwork2938 3 жыл бұрын
I kept my $3,200 and went MT. Used the $ to get an aftermarket cage and some other goodies. Gear ratio nonsense is overblown. I have had zero issues with the gearing on this car.
@bagggggyo
@bagggggyo 3 жыл бұрын
That GT4 handles so good, looks like Matt is driving in fast forward>>> Wish I had a job like that. What. a. treat.
@slytherben
@slytherben 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 3.8 C4S PDK and run the Dragon mostly in second, with a little third. So given the amount of curves you've got there, 2nd and 3rd sound right. You should paddle shift though. It's SO fun! Instant power is intoxicating
@BigHeadClan
@BigHeadClan 3 жыл бұрын
I mean if you are driving a manual car but the gearing is so long that you pretty much stay in one gear and don't get to enjoy rowing through the gears what's the point of having the manual version? For the cayman gt4 I don't think this is simply a matter of if you want a manual if you want a manual. That said Matt 100% answered the question of if the pdk solves the gearing issue with the GT4, small improvement but still not perfect. Tangent aside that was a crazy drive Matt thanks for sharing.
@y4nnickschmitt
@y4nnickschmitt 3 жыл бұрын
The only slightly not perfect is the exhaust placement. The old center exit was perfection!
@closer71
@closer71 3 жыл бұрын
Strangely enough....as much as I’d prefer the 6-speed this PDK is heavenly!!! I’d probably just go with the automatic. I’m seriously considering one - I’ve been ramping up to buy a 911 by year end but the Cayman has really got my attention. No sunroof available, which might be a deal breaker for me. Guess I’ll have to think about it a little bit more.
@maaackel
@maaackel 3 жыл бұрын
I came to the rock at 9:15 once a few moments after it had claimed an Evo X. That road is no joke.
@calvincooley1074
@calvincooley1074 3 жыл бұрын
I had fun on this video!
@maxcactus7
@maxcactus7 2 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion, one of the most beautiful sports cars ever put on the road, and that's saying a lot given all the competition it gets from within it's own brand. Utterly gorgeous car!!
@mattjonesgt3538
@mattjonesgt3538 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I own a early cayman and the GT4 is like my little croc turned up to 20! Lovely spec with club sport buckets and ceramics in gentian blue. My heart aches ...
@Resist_Oppression
@Resist_Oppression Жыл бұрын
Tell it how it is. If you want stick, get a stick. But I am tired about hearing about the gearing. Dope video. These are the roads these cars are meant for.
@Daveyboy_RS3
@Daveyboy_RS3 3 жыл бұрын
Can't drive the 4.0 around town. I'd give my left arm for the turbo 4 cayman S. Tons of low-mid range grunt great for passing, and some of the most sublime susp, steering, balance, cornering that make it one of the best sports cars period.
@melbguy1
@melbguy1 2 жыл бұрын
The PDK adds 30kg to the kerb weight, but has 10Nm more torque, is 1/2 sec faster than the manual 0-100kph and has launch control. So for my needs, i'd go for the PDK for sure, but with after market mods to further improve the gearbox and clutch.
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