Does WRC Generations Have Realistic Physics ?

A thick tea drinkers thoughts on the physics in WRC Generations the latest rally sim racing game to be released by Kylotonn
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[@marcp.3900]

I'm really enjoying the game so far, very enjoyable to drive and a big step up from WRC 10 in terms of overall polish and driving experience

[@thepessimisticgamer91]

Agreed

[@Skumtomten1]

I just wish you could do a custom championship like in the Dirt games. I would love to do q long season in all the stages/countries in some of the older cars like the 206. It's a shame really, because in career mode you have to start with the boring WRC3 or 2 cars, and I generally dislike the modern cars tbh.

[@Skumtomten1]

@Auto Bot Pretty much sadly. There are a few events in career mode where you can race them, but outside of that I don't think there is any dedicated mode to race the classic cars, which is a shame. Yes, lights are needed for night stages, and i'm pretty sure if you crash you can break them and not see anything lol. Wipers are alos included, but the rain effects on the windscreen are pretty weak, so you barely even need the wipers.

[@panvlk]

The changes in handling and reduction of the overall grip will probably be mainly due to the regulation changes for the hybrid era. The cars are now indeed heavier, they also have simpler (cheaper) less effective aero, no center differential and the suspension has less travel. Basically FIA wanted to retain the interest of manufacturers by taking inspiration from Rally2 technical rules and making the cars somewhat less expensive to develop and manufacture.

[@barsorrro]

Not only that. With Rally1 cars we are experiencing the return of the 2011-2017 drive-train layout, i.e. the insanity of having no centre diff in a 4WD car. Yes, you read me right. No, I didn't mean no central diff locking -- there is no centre diff at all! The drive is uniformly distributed in a static proportion between the two axles. How are the cars supposed to handle well? They handle like crap, and one can see it quite clearly on IRL WRC onboard footage: the challenge of driving has become to wait till the car consents to turn in an then to play a damage limitation game on the fishtailing on corner exits. Yes, I'm exaggerating. But the cars are nothing like the spectacle of control and power they used to be in the last ever generation of the WRC.

[@bsmracing6592]

that’s one of reasons i m still on wrc10 and thinking if i should get wrc gen or not.

[@lassenikulainen6722]

@@bsmracing6592 Well there is 2021 Toyota and some other quite recent WRC cars in this game too. But of course in the main career mode only the 2022 cars so that is a problem if you are in to carreer mode

[@thealexsimulator2068]

@@barsorrro Yeah it's kinda like WRC decided to go the old Nascar route and take out everything modern and just send the guys out with a beast and see who comes back. LOL.

[@barsorrro]

@@thealexsimulator2068 Yeah... I mean, the cars probably aren't exactly dangerous to drive, but I think they can't be as rewarding to drive. To me, as a former keen follower of the sport, they are totally unrewarding to watch :(. I hate the very idea of top machinery being so much backwards technologically -- no centre diff, no active diffs, no paddle-shifting. In the one area where new technology has been introduced -- i.e. the hybrid system -- we have this stagnating situation where that system is supplied by the same external manufacturer to all the works teams, so that there's no competition in this area. Also, I cannot understand why the application of the boost, rather than being available on-demand to the driver, needs to mapped by the FIA in the ECU -- why?! And then, on top of all this, the Rally1's are now silhouette cars -- just mock-ups of production-car models. Ugh. For me, all of that was too much to take.

[@vincentparenteau6854]

The cars are heavier with the hybrid system and they simplified both the suspensions and the aero this year. WRC drivers says that cars are a lot harder to handle and it took them some time to get use to it. I think WRC G made a good job on recreating that!

[@thealexsimulator2068]

As a WRC game, this is better than Dirt. The physics are good, but if you're into rally and into the nuance of rallying then this game is the best game that I've seen in a long time. You can run custom tire setups, the weight is finally realistic and the cars feel like you're actually on different surfaces. This makes the tire selection even more important, like running cross tire setups and stuff like that. I'm even noticing grip differences on types of gravel and dirt, not just a "dirt" grip level and similar. And it seems to vary through the stages a lot more than Dirt rally did. RBR is still the rally king, but it lacks some things like tire customization and the visuals that you get in this. It feels like the devs play RBR and tried to push this WRC game toward that general direction with this release. It's like an arcade RallySimFans RBR now. Which I like. With great stages and visuals. There is just a ton of bugs with the game right now and there's an automatic clutch feature that is kind of annoying as it can cause stalls on some hairpins unless you're super aggressive with the throttle. But once I got the workaround going for my sequential shifter and handbrake to be bound in the game I am having a blast. Great game once you get past the bugs that never seen to go away.

[@michaelschneider1365]

and since we got at lest a year maybe 2 till probably dirt 3 with wrc in it. this will be good for now. as the best sim for us. dakar dirt rally isn’t so good.

[@melody3741]

I played rbr and the steering felt wrong along with the cars not feeling weighty at all. It doesnt feel like a real car to me. The body roll seems just wrong. This one looks like how i feel driving a car.

[@thealexsimulator2068]

@@melody3741 I'll just say that real life rally drivers that play sim racing games enjoy RBR. We're talking about the RallySimFans mod with the updated physics, but there's a couple guys who drive it, including at least one WRC driver that I know of.

[@user-dm2hr3qk9l]

Dirt Rally 2.0 is obviously better than all the WRC games. It's easily shown on Steam.

[@Tripokaridos22]

It has amazing stages BUT , the Graphics are full of Aliasing , Has a lot of Stutter and frame skipping , Doesnt support VRR, A lot of people have problems with game not save graphics settings, Also FFB problems on wheels, There is a problem with Throttle also not beeing progressive and many many more problems . And Devs do nothing to fix all those . So No its not a good game overall . Dirt Rally 2.0 is way better in my opinion.

[@dipsetdiplomatz3355]

I agree with a lot of what Gamermuscle has stated. I been playing on controller though and the default settings are way to sensitive so you have to bring those sensitivity settings down under the controller options. Once you have your controller dialed in this game is really one of the best rally games out there at this moment in my opinion. Another thing I wanna bring up is messing around with the differential settings under tuning can help out a lot with controlling your car to your driving style. It took me a bit to learn how to tune these rally cars but once I did I been competitive with the online leaderboards and that’s saying a lot considering I’m on controller. With the junior cars in a rally in Mexico I currently hold 5th place under the leaderboards. In conclusion though dialing in your controller and learning how to tune these cars are well worth the time n effort, it’s just sad to know this is the last WRC game in the franchise. This franchise of WRC definitely left us with a masterpiece of a game n went out with a bang. Nice lil review you have made with the physics Gamermuscle. Keep up the good work n take care man.

[@RealLagoose]

All the way through I am just thinking "Wauw nice drive while talking" Thank you for another great video

[@Rich-pj9wv]

Amazing driving even if he wasnt talking, talking just makes even more impressive.

[@zacharyshiohama9310]

i just started my wrc3 career and this game feels amazing in my opinion.. I tried the new hybrid car on a track im somewhat familiar with and those things just fly, what an absolute beast. (playing on moza r9)

[@DriftsandGiggles]

This looks good. Nice driving!

[@hanamchanaface]

Nice video GM 😄I heard from a streamer that if you increase suspension stiffness it will fix the thing where the car spins on jumps. I think the value he said was 40000. But Not sure about that!! 😇

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

I trust Hannah with a spannah

[@lpcoolee]

@@GamerMuscleVideos too funny mate :) Seriously though, excellent review as ever (even though it was mainly for physics, which to be honest is the most important part of the game imho)

[@StephenBailey87]

Just to confirm, this is correct. Suspension stiffness to 4000 and ARB to 10 is what Izamuzing did. :) Default setups are pretty terrible.

[@manifestualdestiny2057]

I appreciate your nice approach to this title. Never thought WRC was perfect but the hate it gets is absolutely insanity. We probably dont get racing games cause everyone knows how racing sim fans can be a stickler to what is an attempt at making a good game. People forget to just enjoy the game for looking for flaws. Your take was refreshing as I can tell you are taking the time to just genuinely express your enjoyment from the game. That's what it's all about. Great racing title. Great youtuber. Cheers!

[@Gabriel_Angelus]

I pretty much agree on this, codemasters fans can be pretty toxic and annoying to any other thing that isn´t dirt rally. Never understood the hate to kt wrc games and now we have only one option... which is worse for everyone.

[@altarf82]

Hi Mate What I have noticed during the hard turns and drift mode as you have described it, what it really does is engages a clutch, because as much as wheels may keep turning the car just stops going until you release the throttle.

[@wabbit234]

Stage details look very nice.

[@AlexWilliams-gn6ud]

Getting on the power after using the handbrake just seems so difficult now, cars just want to spin out with even the slightest throttle input

[@jasonking449]

binding both clutch and handbrake to the same binding helps and also tweaking the rear differential and help immensily with getting on the power after a handbrake turn without the car rotating in a stupid manner( all cars are different so i wont throw random numbers at you) just have a tweak and find your preference

[@izzieb]

The question is, does it have *SUBTLE FRONT END FEEL* ?

[@danielcreed2106]

I mean if it's FWD it should

[@tjones666]

I was trying to figure out if it was the FFB or the game physics that made the cars feel more floaty & less responsive, compared to WRC 10. Spent a while trying to dial it in & still doesn’t feel quite right - or maybe to my preference. I just need to get used to it

[@brookstaggart]

I turned the outo center to 0. Feels really good now. Still experimenting but it seems to work well with a fanatec dd.

[@nuu3085]

maybe a bit more lag? different graphics timing for some reason?

[@tjones666]

@@nuu3085 definitely feels like the physics or FFB. I’m using a Fanatec CSL DD. It kinda feels like driving an old school muscle car with air shocks. Although I do have DLSS turned on. Might try without it

[@frenzyfire0005]

Nice job, I may have to get this game now that I saw the trees and bushes in it. lol.

[@Monkey_D_Luffy56]

Does the rock in Portugal still have bouncing effect? And does rail guards on snowy course still makes the car stuck and spin?

[@andrewtaylor8453]

On Xbox Series s with standard controller I love the driving physics of WRC 9 it’s far more arcade than WRC 10 which it’s a struggle to drive in a straight line without the car sliding or diving off to one side, is WRC generations more like WRC 9 or WRC 10?

[@plebsimracer2413]

Excellent review, thanks. But why so sad Mr. Muscle, isn't Codemasters supposed to continue the WRC series next year?

[@computerclub5192]

Brilliant matey

[@MrTokyoJunkie]

This looks like the most fun rally game I've seen in a while. Maybe I just got burned out on Dirt Rally 1, but I didn't enjoy 2 that much. It's like you said 'it feels like you're on vacation' on some of these stages lol

[@AsherSkylark]

i have to admit. Coming from a guy with 200 hours in Dirt Rally 2, the stages in WRCG is top notch with lot of cool details

[@plebsimracer2413]

I'd consider this title if it feels as genuine and raw as Dirt Rally 1 did. 2.0 felt too much like a game...

[@Sezon-xn9lp]

@@AsherSkylark I agree. I want to drive these stages in high quality VR and a motion rig... :(

[@swaggadash9017]

@@AsherSkylark I like the patchy European roads 😂 Seems to have more variety (I haven't played it) than the dirt games, it's feels like the actual dirt, gravel and roads are all exactly the same. In this my eyes kept glancing at the texture of the road itself and it looked really cool.

[@s3any1977]

Good review. I'm looking for a new rally game. I still play DR2 and I never got on with the handling of the WRC games. I like the legacy rally cars in DR2. But this sounds like a worthwhile investment.

[@bratosin1]

Big fanboy dr2.0 here ! I bought the wrc 10 about 2 months ago to give it a try and I must say with all assist off ( I have a sim rig/ wheel ) it a very very good simulator, almost close to dr.2.0 , and the stages are pretty amazing , I just bought the new generations and for now the wheels don't work on series x , so I cannot say , we waiting for a fix , they should release a patch next week ( I hope) almost 10 days and I cannot play , very sad situation, the first time in my 37 years old life

[@swaggadash9017]

@@bratosin1 Did you get a fix? If so, what would you say about it?

[@bendonkin9449]

Since the game forces you to start with the WRC 2/R5 cars in career and season mode that’s all i’ve really driven, and i haven’t really enjoyed or understood them, compared to WRC 9 which i love. The throttle does nothing until about 80% and then it kicks in suddenly, making exits and handbrake turns very difficult. The car actually slows down even when holding 70% throttle. The front weight transfer when applying the brake feels like it does nothing to aid in front grip, especially coming from playing RBR recently. Something just feels not quite right to me but i’ll give the hybrid WRC cars more time tonight. Perhaps the throttle issue and overall handling will be better with the hybrid cars.

[@willmeinhold6578]

Have you been able to fix the throttle problem? I’m having the same issue

[@Alex_Z95]

The thing that slows you down when leaving the throttle could be something like engine braking

[@bendonkin9449]

@@willmeinhold6578 Somewhat yes! 1. set throttle sensitivity to 1.5 2. increase first and second gear ratios, as short gear ratios make throttle control more difficult 3. Reduce brake bias to 40 or 45 Game feels quite a bit better, although not quite spot on, the throttle issue isn’t properly cured with this

[@rabmccudden683]

How does it feel stepping back into DR2 after playing this.

[@matthewbedford2421]

i cant get on with the FFB how have you got yours set up in game? I Find it too heavy and less feel Than WRC10

[@comment9874]

Does anyone else feel a bit off when it comes to throttle input? I might be blind and not see it but I dont see anything in the settings to calibrate my gas/break. Feels like pressing on the gas 70% of the way does nothing and immidieatly jumps up

[@someoneonly]

I played wrc10 quite abit and going into wrcg I kept rolling my car multiple times going over crests or road with camber. It feels abit comical how many times the car rolls before coming to a stop lol.

[@beyond72deepsoulfulhousemixes]

What are you playing on? As it was like that on Xbox but an update seems to have reduced the body roll. Before this the Ford WRC2 car was struggling bad in Finland.

[@someoneonly]

@@beyond72deepsoulfulhousemixesI tried all 3 wrc hybrid cars on pc and they all seem to exhibit similiar tendancies to roll. To be fair it could just be the aero changes and heavier weight of the car

[@amsterdan9096]

Lol i feel you man, i just did something like a dozen barrel rolls in sweden, was starting to wonder if i was actually ever going to stop rolling

[@gamesexclamationpoint]

I’ve noticed the change in physics when all 4 tyres loose grip as well, it’s like Mario kart😊

[@MuntyScruntFundle]

Have you watched Cookie and her test run of HRC Gen..? But, GM, the FFB? How's the FFB? Is the FFB good?

[@philippegohier6992]

My biggest problem so far is the pov option on PC . Its so weak . I use an ultrawide 32/9 and the picture is just a strech of 16/9 I cant put the cam in a proper position in dash cam or pilot cam They should copy ACC .

[@xXJojjeXx]

Please do a FFB guide, like you have done before. Always much appreciated!

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

I think ffb is broken at the moment , vibrations won't change anything and some of the sliders don't really do much. Just use the SAT setting and run a lower wheel rotation on the wheel to tighten things up.

[@Hyper_Light_Grifter]

WRC cars now weigh more due to the hybrid system Personally I’ll be sticking with last years cars in the game

[@scottsummers4154]

I was saying the same thing. But try the Ford Puma car. The acceleration of the Hybrids are addictive.

[@Utube2Itube]

It takes some time to adapt to the new driving style that you need to apply. But I prefer these new changes to the physics and the weight of the hybrid cars. They understeer more this year, so you needn’t to put more emphasis on moving that weight over when turning and on forcing the rear end out to get proper car rotation in the slow corners

[@Alex_Z95]

They reduced the grip a lot. A bit more grip would be perfect

[@user-zn2hs4wb6k]

I agree, the cars just slide out WAYY to easily. Even on dry tarmac

[@gamixccc5117]

With controller this game is........ FANTASTIC. Try it if you don't have wheel.

[@claudioalonsof1]

yes in general WRC saga is good for the controller. this is not the exception , i faster than the wheel

[@ianhood6624]

Yes definitely decent with a controller.I think wrc 9 is the best for wheel feel, generations feels dead on a wheel even with everything turned up.

[@iansteelmatheson]

ok but what are the non-tarmac surfaces like?

[@zenoofcitium1894]

It seems to be a true hybrid cars are harder to drive. Because I drove the same tracks, first in a hybrid car (usually Ford Puma), and then in a WRC car (Volkswagen Polo). The result surprised me, because I have always been faster in the Volkswagen, even though it has 65 less horsepower than Rally1 cars and both weigh 1200 kg. For example I drove 14 km Spanish track on Volkswagen 15 seconds faster than on Toyota Yaris.

[@void_snw]

It's pretty much smack dab right in between DR2 physics and RBR physics. Not as floaty as DR2, especially on tarmac, but not as bitey on tarmac as RBR, and grippier on gravel and snow than RBR, but not as much as DR2. I have not noticed what you said about drift mode type physics, at all. Maybe it's a setup thing? It could very much be overthrottling it and the addition of naturally higher FoV in this game, making sideways movement feel odd compared to forwards.

[@void_snw]

It's like, slightly easier RBR thats a tiny bit floaty on tarmac but in turn gets more modern visuals. Very enjoyable.

[@thealexsimulator2068]

@@void_snw Yeah you can almost assume that the devs or someone there plays RBR. It felt super similar in a lot of ways. RBR is still the best though, it's got the best combination of direct steering feel while also having a lack of grip. Right now the steering in WRC feels kind of vague. The grip should feel vague, but the steering shouldn't.

[@donjezza]

I've really enjoyed it so far

[@bulbhead3333]

I love this game. The only thing I don't like is the reflections in the wet. Handling and driving are a lot of fun and the stages look amazing.

[@baccattack]

Visuals look good.

[@Themisterdee]

The physics thing that stood out for me. Take an alpine or stratos out to Kenya and the along open straight flat out. you will believe a car can fly. especially at stock . just need s few more mph for a full backflip 😃

[@beyond72deepsoulfulhousemixes]

An update on the Xbox has reduced the body roll and now my Stratos is behaving itself.

[@tradesman1000]

I’d love to be able to play this title if I could get my Fanatec DD1 to bloody work! 😤 all my other peripherals are working. Does anyone else have this issue?

[@Varmint260]

Feeling like you're on vacation when you play a new stage gives me hope that they'll get the new Test Drive Unlimited right. I hope their WRC physics translate decently to road cars and that they resist the urge to make them more arcade for TDU Solar Crown. I loved the atmosphere in both TDU and TDU2, even if TDU2's physics were a bit janky. As it stands, I haven't played a WRC game extensively since WRC4, but I just installed WRC10 and I'm planning on giving it a go today.

[@danielnutley6422]

Please do try WRC 8 and 9 they are awesome and better than 10, Generations is exceptional as well, the Toyota engine sound needs to be better and some of the ambient fx in 8 and 9 have gone, but please give them a go!

[@Varmint260]

@@danielnutley6422 Good time for a suggestion as they're on sale on Steam. I might just give 9 a go as I only have 10 on Playstation at the moment anyhow.

[@danielnutley6422]

@@Varmint260 Yep, WRC 9 is a great game, you get great stages with rich saturated colours, great engine and ambient fx audio and the WRC class cars are super quick, have fun!

[@corsica2b625]

what are the settings for having such good handling? could you make a video please ?

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

I just drink lots of tea

[@corsica2b625]

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[@hvacinstalacije1985]

Hi, I have Fanatec CSL DD, what is best setup fo FFB and setup for cars.

[@vitruviuszhang5057]

The only thing I have problem with is the handbrake, I don’t know why, after I used the handbrake, even though I applied the throttle gently, the car would spin like 270 degrees… in WRC9&10, I never had this problem, and in this video it seems work just fine. Is it a setup thing or maybe wrong settings?

[@swaggadash9017]

If you do that in the new hybrid cars the torque will be what's messing you up, those things pull man and will just blast into wheel spins 😂

[@vitruviuszhang5057]

@@swaggadash9017 the develop team has addressed the issue about no power when 60% throttling under 6k rpm, hope they will fix it in the next update

[@swaggadash9017]

@@vitruviuszhang5057 It's good to know they are still supporting the game even if it doesn't get any new content.

[@wearethebashers]

I have a g29 on xbox and it crashes on launch still... glad other people can play, looks like a ton of fun

[@axxxxier]

I re-installed it and worked, had the same issue on launch

[@Curious_Donkey]

Same here, the game was working for me with steering wheel until yesterday's patch - although not without some severe ffb issues. I will re-install it, hopefully that helps. Honestly, I don't understand how they can release a patch that causes such an issue. Edit: Re-installation did not fix the problem.

[@adoringfan1226]

Why does the frame rate in wrc always look choppy?

[@h.mushmann2351]

Turn up the steering sensitivity to 2.5

[@specscheck952]

yet again with wrc i cant get it to run smooth when set to 120hrz only when its set at 60hrz on on nvidia control panel will it run smooth its stupid

[@Utube2Itube]

It’s funny that you feel the grip level on tarmac is lowered. I feel the opposite, it’s gone much higher with the soft tires, thats why you have much less sliding on tarmac stages., especially in the fast corners you can drive like an arrow. You almost have to drive them with a F1 car mindset. I definitely agree with the less responsiveness in the turns, basically much more understeering than before, which is probably a result of the added weight to the cars. You definitely have to work much more on forcing that rear end to slide in the corners to get the proper rotation in the tighter and slower corners. Everything above applies to tarmac. I haven’t done much snow or gravel racing yet, but from the few attempts it’s definitely very different from tarmac. So I agree that the variation in handling between different surfaces is much greater this time around. I have been looking for opinions on the realism from real life rally drivers, but it’s difficult to find on the internet. I’m really curious how the realism compares between WRC Generations and DiRT 2.0. It’s a hot debate between gamers 😄

[@stburr91]

The grip level on dry tarmac is still pretty low, the cars begin to slide at speeds in turns that regular cars could do with little to no sliding in real life. I do agree that the cars are now prone to understeer, while the added weight of the cars contributes to that, the front tires just have noticeably less bit/grip to them. It's quite hard to get the cars to rotate. I noticed that you can only really get the cars to rotate by turning in aggressively, and lift the throttle, then slamming back on the throttle. The problem with this is that if you do this, and the corner tightens, there's nothing you can really do to get the car to rotate any further, and you often will go off. I think the game is the best WRC game of them all, and pretty decent overall game.

[@Utube2Itube]

@@stburr91 Regarding the tightening corners, you can rotate the car additionally using the handbreake. At least in the slow corners. Thats what I tend to do anyway. Moreover, generally speaking, I also tend to use lower gears in the corners to get that extra rotation of the car. Sometimes I even downshift in the middle of the corner to get a more pronounced effect.

[@GethAndroid]

@@stburr91 You need to use the brakes a bit to break traction then use throttle to maintain a slide through corners. Steering is only like 30% of cornering in this game sometimes.

[@stburr91]

@@GethAndroid Yes, you use the throttle to do a lot of the steering in the game now.

[@MrExcessum]

I like the grip and the physics.

[@MrPaullProductions]

What I find strange is that now the cars feel so heavy, you can no longer do a donuts in the short stages for example in Spain where the co-driver tells you to do a donut. I am just not able to, I can just drive around it, no wheel spin, no smoke from tyres, nothing. Just drive around like you are in a parking lot, feels so slow. Am I doing something wrong here or are the cars really that heavy that this sliding is no longer possible? After this, I tried it in WRC 10 again how it felt and I did a donut just fine, sliding, smoke, spining. I tried with controller, wheel, automatic, manual..... nothing seems to be working. Feels strange, but overall, the game is great. It just feels very slow also in the hairpin corners since there is no wheel spin, when you fail in this type of corner, again, accelerating like a very slow car and not a rally car with more than 300 hp.

[@melody3741]

Can we talk about how fucking impressive this Croatia rally stage is? This is mind boggling coming from dirt rally. I would love to live there lmao.

[@matttondr9282]

Like others have pointed out, the new hybrid cars are heavier and harder to drive, so that’s actually well done by the developers.

[@gru0058]

What are your PC and monitor specs. I have a 3070Ti and a 144hz 16:9 1440p and don’t get graphics like yours. I tried to have everything on high with DLSS, but the game feels badly optimised. Do you have any tips to get more fps with good graphics?

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

It's litrally on defaults with my 2080ti didn't change anything 😅😆 as it looked ok and ran well.

[@gru0058]

What monitor resolution and refresh rate?

[@magicfok]

Some "L" corner , use the handbrake , your car just go sideway far far away from the track, even in 2nd gear.

[@SCHOOLOFROCK776358]

I didn't want to buy this game as a controller player and WRC 10 really bad, but generations is brilliant. Actually in top 100

[@lferli]

Cars pretty much drive like cars. Best review ever :D

[@acemczero88]

Anybody playing this on a VRS DFP without having to edit the registry to get it working? That was pretty much the deal breaker for me on WRC 10. Is the VRS natively supported this time?

[@Leynad778]

I've tried it in WRC10 and Generations and both could map the VRS DFP without more than the common issues and less in WRCG. WRC 10 just worked because I have an XBox Controller attached to my rig that allows me to navigate through the menues. I got a Steam-refund of the game and bought a key for 24 instead of 40 Euros. I kind of like the physics and graphics are nice.

[@scottsummers4154]

The Hyundai is just loose like that, makes it fun in Kenya. But the Ford feels great, how it squats under acceleration.

[@VodkaRob]

I guess the only people who can answer the question genuinely would be a rally driver. I got WRC 8 & 10 but I haven't got a round wheel, I've got an F1 wheel and a Mclaren GT3 wheel so it's quite difficult. I ended up only playing both games once or twice so I'll hold off on getting this one 😂

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

in an absalute sense for sure , but in a general sense its pritty clear when sims / games are generaly close or massively off from reality. ironicaly real drivers i know argue over which sim is more or less realistic just as much as simracers.

[@salgshaka4483]

wrc feel bad on wheels on tarmac felt snapy at times or like u have deadzone on rotation, i only enjoy on gravel

[@deggial2005]

I always felt that Dirt series have too much grip on tarmac. So I guess I'll try this now...

[@Putkijumala]

DR2 (and especially DR1) on tarmac is undrivable because of the terrible physics. Some cars are great fun on gravel but on tarmac every single car is just more or less bad. In recent WRC games the tarmac is becoming drivable enough to naturally start thinking about the racing lines instead of just surviving.

[@Mopze]

Has this game a VR mode? i Love Dirt Rally2 in VR, i would never play an racing sim without vr anymore :D

[@Woopass90]

Any VR support?

[@loganwhite6173]

Nope

[@GethAndroid]

Yeah you nailed the description of the problem with jumps. The car just goes sideways and rolls. So annoying on Finland. Few issues that irk me is how unpredictably the car will sometimes lock up and the rear end just washes out instantly sending me into a ditch. I don't mind challenging physics as long as I can adapt my driving and know I'm to blame if I screw up. For example, the cars seem to go into half spins much easier on slower turns and hairpins. So I've adapted by taking wider lines and more gradual corner speed, rather than trying to hit the apex with acute angles. Only other issue that I think needs work is there is just too much wheelspin off the line. No matter how sensitive I am with inputs its just instant wheelspin and when I back off slightly the revs die completely then go too high again when I reapply throttle. So I'm short shifting to 2nd gear early to compensate but it's still not an ideal workaround. Fun game otherwise, love the amount of stages there are to play around with.

[@FatswellSmart]

anyone else getting a pixelated mess through the windshield in cockpit camera?

[@RuezgaDaniel]

Yes. It's been an issue for me since WRC 8.

[@FatswellSmart]

@@RuezgaDaniel perfect thanks, i assumed it was the game, now back to RBR i guess lol

[@markweatherall7437]

WRC 9 is the best one they brought out in my opinion.

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

HELLO ! - Nothing like a cup of tea and some hedges

[@Jack-zs9ui]

The fact its going for £32 on amazon I think it's a buy

[@youngyingyang]

Does this "simulator" exports telemetry for buttkickers and motion rigs?

[@thealexsimulator2068]

Yes, they have information about it on the main website.

[@matthewratcliffe1953]

Brilliant game

[@chedhead3278]

No comments on the FFB? No swigging tea mid stage? Where is the real GM and what have you done with him? 🤗

[@MrGulyo]

Sounds are killing the whole game experience to me. Proper sounds are vital for simulators. This is……😂

[@Alex_Z95]

This is a vacuum cleaner...

[@freekshow]

Where are you? KT holding you hostage?!

[@Tripokaridos22]

How is it possible Sim racers run with Dash Cam or Hood Cam ? I thought Cockpit Cam is the most logical .

[@Konchunas]

In this game it has like tinted windows effect, so cockpit cam is suboptimal

[@steveogle8942]

I need a working steering wheel before I can worry about realistic physics.

[@SnakeyOshio]

please drive slower so we can actually appreciate the trees and grass more, as colin mcrae said "twenty is plenty" :D

[@Aures91R]

If you want talk about realism change cam view 😊

[@MenniePlay]

This is the fun game! I enjoy it. For the best graphic, Disable DLSS!!

[@sureslick1]

Better than dirt rally 1 or 2?

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

Stages are nicer , no VR , worse sound , better single player , physics are just different but still fun

[@Hyper_Light_Grifter]

Better at asphalt than dirt rally 1 and 2 imo

[@LorenzoClara97]

@@Hyper_Light_Grifter waaaay better tarmac than Dirt , even on wrc 10 Not tried gravel yet

[@dokmdeindj5212]

@@LorenzoClara97 Yes tarmac is horrible in dirt games but i feel that gravel and snow physics are just a bit better than wrc games.

[@lpcoolee]

IMO I just find WRC more playable, and a more fun experience. Don’t get me wrong, I loved DR 1 and 2. I just found the career mode so much more engaging, and the game just feels bigger. Also, I personally prefer the handling of WRC (once I’m into it again, as when I’m into DR2, I enjoy that too). I didn’t like that DR2 had so much paid DLC season pass content, whereas WRC has it all in the game (and some cars if you want to buy those separately - although, they’re not needed)

[@Lakedistrictrider]

VR?

[@shieldyourselfmusic8567]

I will watch this video when Ive got decent internet - have you played dirt rally 2? DR2 is my fav rally game and never tried a WRC game but the only thing that makes me want to buy any WRC game is the career mode

[@75STARFISH]

My Logitech G29 is softer / lighter

[@Rich-pj9wv]

Would you say its more or less realistic than Dirt 2 ?

[@claudioalonsof1]

is diferent man.. need to probe i love WRC saga.. but Dirt 2.0 is nice also

[@L0CALDRUGMAN]

well in my opinion dirt is very unrealistic

[@Nadk2010]

In my opinion no pal dirt 2.0 is just amazing and the sounds are unreal the sounds on this game just kills it off and the co driver you just cant be dirt 2.0 trust me just stay on dirt pal

[@L0CALDRUGMAN]

@@Nadk2010 sounds and graphics yes very nice looking but the physics are not realistic in dirt , driving in WRC is super fun and you can feel the cars weight and how the suspension transitions weight etc its far more realistic , very similar to assetto corsa

[@Lead_Foot]

I can't stand how much understeer there is. There's options to tune the center diff that doesn't even exist on the real car. The cars lose all forward momentum when oversteering.

[@mintcocobrown]

If you still have a belt driven wheel review games with those wheels instead cus most people don't have direct drive wheels.

[@navorskygames940]

I think this game have a very very solid force feedback if you take the time to set it up properly. It took me half an hour to reach something waaaaay better than Dirt 2.0 and somewhat close to RBR.

[@terenceramroop]

Game does not have realistic physics. Take the transmission for example. Drive slowly up a hill then stop before the crest. Put the transmission in neutral, let off the brakes and the car does not roll backwards. I'm really wanting to like this game.

[@Konchunas]

That is true, but it is a minor problem, and doesn't quite break the immersion cause you never break on hills to win

[@youngyingyang]

Those visuals are so much better than Dirt Series!

[@martsum398]

Hmmm DR2.0 still looks fantastic, 3 years old now... codies next WRC game should eclipse this easily.

[@karl343]

Plus DR 2.0 has HDR, something this game lack for some reason.

[@Skumtomten1]

@@martsum398 The problem with Dirt 2 is that extreme fog to block out the drawing distances. It's ugly and annoying, that game is also too saturated for my taste.

[@notthottie9882]

so no one gonna talk about how he sound like FailRace

[@stijn324]

let's hope it runs better then wrc 10 that game keeps crashing for me on pc. got plenty of capable hardware so that's out the question

[@navorskygames940]

I can assure you it is very optimized. The use of DLSS makes the game virtually viable for every spec. I run it on triple screen in a mix of High and Ultra with balanced DLSS and im getting 50/70 fps

[@messiahshow]

I have never had a crash on WRC 10 so it is definitely a you problem. Old/bad drivers, OS version? Bad harddrive maybe? It can be a few thing but I promise you this game do not crash on a healthy PC.

[@stijn324]

@@messiahshow my pc is healthy on any other game except this one so. what wheel/pedals are u running?

[@messiahshow]

@@stijn324 I am actually just using Xbox 360 controller. What you can do is try to really remove your old gpu drivers and install fresh. Also verify integrity of game files on steam for WRC 10. Sometimes files go corrupt and you can crash, first thing I do is verify game files.

[@stijn324]

@@messiahshow so yeah it has nothing to do with my drivers but the game isn't handling my input devices.

[@cieslus1988]

Dirt rally tarmac grip is not bity at all what a weird comparison

[@jasonking449]

most of the issues you are describing are completely fixable in the tuning menu i have tweaked cars to actually hold power reliably on corner exit without rotating and also fixed the understeer under breaking after a bump but the tires feeling like streets rather than slicks on tarmac is a good point ....i dont drive rally cars irl but it does look like the also dont hook up like they should on real life stages ...i tried the wrc 2.0 category citreon xsara and that thing felt wayyyy more pointy and planted compared to the hybrid wrc cars ...take both the xsara and a hybrid wrc car to belgium and youll see exactly what im on about

[@philippegohier6992]

They may be heavier , but not that much. I strongly believe brakes are at 70ish % of their power. So you should just change the setup to 100% , but that setup do not exist ! It exist on other games, but not this one .

[@messiahshow]

I read somewhere a dude that did some braking change that made the brakea way better. I will see if I can find it again.

[@chromedev6588]

I guess it's just preference, I like when I can throw my car around on tarmac

[@kennygo5053]

The car felt too lighter

[@geoundici]

I think this is quite a decent game. I would buy for max 10 euros. Sound design is so bad, as the overall sense of "drama". It's a pity, since they have good stage design

[@christopherscott934]

The braking in this game is different than in 10. The braking is better optimized than the game is...