Dolphins in Depth: What should we make of Tua Tagovailoa’s defiant news conference?

[@dioncooper2844]

Grier put Tua on IR to save his JOB. Excuses Excuses

[@philjones4995]

Everday, I drive down a 2 lane road going around 60mph. A car passes going 60 the other way. Each car that passes could swerve into me for a head on collision... I have been in a couple crashes in my life (not at fault) , so should I quit driving because it is too big a risk? We ALL take risks everyday to do the things we love. Tomorrow, I am going to climb into a 25 ft high tree stand to deer hunt, could fall to my death. ... I am 68 years old, am I NOT going to go because of worry? I think not. Tua should play for as long as HE wants

[@philjones4995]

haha I posted this before Barry got to the car analogy... guess he gets it

[@ronlee2611]

The Dolphins screwed up giving Tua an extension.

[@dominickhawke9379]

Switch teams then

[@user-jv5yp7el8d]

Big time. They screwed up when they drafted him.

[@PrezWitten]

​@@user-jv5yp7el8dAbsolutely....and all these tua lovers who think otherwise... Have zero knowledge what a takes to be a qb in the NFL.... Did they forget it's a physical sport..... Fragile QBs don't last.

[@setrump2391]

Y’all mf never been this good since Marino.. yall should precipitate that yall got Tua!!🤦🏽 the man will kill him self for this sport he loves..fk outta here!!

[@Bouncindd]

All this franchise does is waste money why pay these old injury prone players. Need to get young and tough look at green bay

[@philjones4995]

Barry, wearing the guardian cap will constantly remind everyone, immediately, that he is that "poster child" you mentioned. He wants to move on

[@WorldofGoose]

Look, we all love Tua. We love Mike. Chris is a good guy, too. I've loved this team since 1971. But, here's the truth. This team can't beat Buffalo, Baltimore, or Kansas City. Probably can't beat Cincinnati, either. These teams have mobile, strong arm QBs that are playmakers. Tua is not a playmaker. He is a functional qb that thrives in this timing offense...until he is knocked off his spot or under presssure. Again, he's an awesome guy, but we've made a serious mistake by extending Tua and Mike. I'm sad to say this, but Tua, Mike, and Chris will be gone, soon. Ross is nearly 85. He is not going to wait until next year to make changes. He was led to believe we were a Super Bowl team. Clearly, we are not. I expect him to fire both Chris and Mike before Week 12. I see Weaver and McKenzie taking over as interim coach and GM. Tua will not be our QB next year. He may follow Mike if he goes elsewhere. Ross knows he can't build a franchise around a concussion prone, limited QB that cannot create offense on his own. Tua's time is coming to an end...sad to say, his career is not far behind. Barry, I think you're terrific. Please start asking Mike tough questions in your pressers. Don't back down. Every reporter seems to just joke with Mike. He rambles and acts very immature. Let's hold every player and coach accountable. As tough and opinionated as you and Omar are on this show, you lose your journalistic integrity in Mike's company. Mike has been awful this year. His play calling, time management, player relationships...all soft and subpar. I hate to see us go 7-10 this year, but we may be lucky to get 7. This is a dysfunctional coach that I personally like...but if he worked for me, I'd have to let one of my popular employees go. If we're not getting better, we're getting worse. Gosh, I miss Don Shula...

[@DemetriusChaney-m4r]

If you expect a coach who went to the playoffs in both of his first two seasons to be fired in his third season, then you don’t fully understand how business works. Too many fans are focused on instant gratification. Look at all the successful franchises. They don’t fire coaches after 2 years. Mike Tomlin has been in Pittsburgh since I was in high school. Bill Belichick was in New England for two decades. Pete Carroll was in Seattle for well over a decade before he retired himself. Those are just three examples of building a system even when facing adversity. This whole idea that a team needs one or two years to prove that they are contenders or else everyone should be fired is preposterous to say the least.

[@WorldofGoose]

@DemetriusChaney-m4r All great points, considering at 6 years old, I saw us lose to the Cowboys in the 71' Super Bowl, then go undefeated and win the next two and could have been three SBs. And I only knew Don Shula as our HC until the end in 95'. I'm patient in business and as a fan...but we live now in an instant gratification world. And we have an 84 year old owner that was told this team, this coach, and this QB were SB ready. They are not. Ross chose Mike to craft an offense to Tua's strengths. He did. He just didn't count on the concussions or prepare for life without him. Mike has been a poor play caller and game manager since his arrival. As you may have seen in the Ross preseason interview, Ross indicated that Mike had a "unique" personality and he seemed to be looking for nice things to say. I don't think he understands Mike, the Capris, the endless ramblings, etc. Grier sold Ross on this coach and team and extending the contracts of both. I believe Ross knows he will not win a SB with an oft injured qb and a timing based offense that hasn't shown it can travel well in January for the past two seasons. I'll be in Buffalo in two weeks for what could be Mike's last game if we get embarrassed by the Bills. Grier is not Beane. Mc D is not Mc Dermott, and Tua isn't Josh Allen. I wish you were right on all fronts...but this time I don't think Ross has a choice. Changes are coming...

[@geraldbartczak8832]

@@DemetriusChaney-m4r if Tua played yesterday we would’ve won the game

[@leisurelife5331]

​@@DemetriusChaney-m4rif you expect anything more than what this coach has offered. Goodluck

[@mr.majestic3851]

Speak for yourself , He is a bust draft pick at number 5 1st rd I have ever seen in 52 yrs watching fins

[@amguinn20]

Salty Tua is here. Hopefully he gets this offense back on track. I’m sure we can all agree that this has been hard to watch. Feeling sorry for our defensive guys who are working their butts off. I feel like we are the jets last year

[@MichaelRowley-z6f]

In bare knuckle fighting ,concussions happen every fight on average.

[@edwardwalsh9558]

In boxing and UFC it's happening constantly.

[@scott7621]

Yeah, and those guys will be mumbling vegetables when they are older.

[@ThePerfectSeason1972]

Great Show !

[@MichaelRowley-z6f]

TUA WOULD BE THE ONLY PERSON WHO WOULD NOT COMPLAIN, HE KNOWS ITS A BUISNESS ,HE WOULD ALWAYS DO WHATS BEST FOR THE TEAM.

[@mr.majestic3851]

LOL, YEAH LIKE TAKE THEIR MONEY WHILE HE MISSES 15 GAMES SINCE 2020 .

[@gavriilnick4225]

the best for the team is for him to get the fk outta here ...stop stealing the teams money ...and go back to frigin honoluluuu ...play golf with the women little girl

[@tylerdurden9135]

The best thing for the team would be to retire and let a real QB in there.

[@geraldbartczak8832]

Kader did not have to cover anybody deep yesterday that’s why he did good

[@mm2024-7]

I’m sure Tua wants to play again ASAP but man, this guy can’t get hit again. Please do the feet first slide this time and take care.

[@KYONGSUKSEYMOUR]

I am a diehard fins fan. I am a older spoiled fan, after being able to experience the team winning many season under the greatest HC the team ever had, yes the late great Don Shula. I will not jump on the band wagon that Tua return will save the season. He started the season not doing much in the games he started. I like to see the team make a good run during his return. I just don't believe it will happen. I don't mind being 100% wrong . I am William not Kyong, that lovely lady is my wife.

[@Stand4Israel]

I think the whole offense has been rusty and I am angry that the coaches did not have them ready to go. Completely different team from the last two seasons. Honestly it does not matter if Tua or Huntley is playing. Nobody is catching their balls Jonnu Smith is performing better than tyreek and waddle. Huntley was getting us downfield reasonably for a backup QB and we kept shooting ourselves in the football with MCD's terrible play calling and the stupid flags. Aside from individual performance I think there is a coaching problem going on behind the scenes that is not being talked about. Stephen Ross needs to fix the problem he got to much money on the line. I am not going to go as far and say McD is not an offensive genius anymore but Mcdaniels needs to give up play calling or coach a different team!

[@mjolniron]

Concerning the statement that there was not a single neurologist had told him he should retire. I’m flabbergasted by this statement. I am a critical care registered nurse, and I round with neurologist all the time. If there was any activity that the patient was engaging in that caused three confirmed concussions and possibly four within two years whether it’s wrestling, boxing, Mountain biking any type of activity the definitive conclusion would be you need to stop this immediately. There is not a good neurologist on the planet that would give somebody a greenlight to continue an activity that had caused that many concussions with such a short span. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@lorenpotaczek125]

Have no idea why you said Tua has had the 2 worst concussions we have ever seen we have seen just as bad and probably worst

[@wiseguy417]

grier should not be in charge of any dolphin draftin after 2024.

[@Man_Darino]

Respectfully, this conversation about concussions is dumb. We're acting like from High school up they dont do this? It used to be and still very much is the culture of football when theres not big money involved apparently. Tua has 3 or 4 NFL concussions, other guys have just as many. Do the ones previous to his pro career not count? its all guessing and assumptions by people who are scared FOR him. Just let the dude ball , hes a warrior and i respect tf out of his demeanor so much at least SOMEONE on this team has a pair.

[@Bouncindd]

It is dumb but we also need a qb that's available and can win games against good teams which tua cannot do

[@Man_Darino]

@Bouncindd Tua has to be smarter, it's that simple. He won't quit on a play no matter what and it's those plays every time that cost him. What about 200m wrs that are ghosts without Tua and in ever big game reek gives up 6 by fumbling, or droppin TDs. the team has deeper issues than a fragile QB. but besides that yes. They have to secure that position going forward regardless. Two totally different topics however.

[@richiebutz7314]

The Panthers visit the Pittsburgh Penguins on December third and then they host them exactly a month later. Maybe George Richards could try and interview Sydney Crosby about concussions. He’s had several; probably as many as Tua, if not more. I believe his handlers did a great job at allowing the injuries to fully heal. He’s still playing at a high level.

[@richardkeys5214]

Barry Tua had neurological issues prior to the three concussions. At a post game Tua was addressing the media with a right eye lid that he couldn't keep open!

[@rojoloco]

This is a direct quote from Guardian (the makers of the cap): "Researchers have not reached an agreement on how the results of impact absorption tests relate to concussions. No conclusions about a reduction of risk or severity of concussive injury should be drawn from impact absorption tests."

[@salcontrino]

Something to consider is how defenses will change play calling. Edge rushers are going to stay inside rather than create a wide rush lane and they are going to pin their ears back knowing tua is not going to scramble

[@fruitstrong5977]

Why would a neurologist tell Tua he shouldn't play again from 3 concussions? They didn't didn't advise that to Mitch Morse and he's had 8 concussions. And he's a Center , which means he's probably had 12. There were 429 concussions the past 2 seasons in the NFL and the media only want to sensationalize Tua injury. Tua is a QB and plays one of the safest positions on the field along with the punter and kicker.. How many OL and DL in the NFL , had two and 3 times more Concussions than Tua? I know y'all reporters don't want to go down that road. I hope Tua has NO COMMENT to all future concussion related questions.

[@kenmcbreairty7878]

Chris Perkins is an embarrassment

[@indade]

Tua has been throwing for 5 weeks. Meaning he passed his protocol soon after the Bills game.

[@mikeday1305]

First we need major upgrades on the offensive line and a 1A back up QB, When tua gets hurt again,and a big bruising power running back to change up from the speedy guys

[@sure2rain725]

If Tua was a true leader, he would wear the "guardian Helmet." He is a main part of this team and for the good of the team, he should do whatever he needs to do to prevent another extended absence do to injury. He is obviously just out for himself.

[@persiansneakerhead1916]

He's a leader and that's why he's coming back to play when just about everyone is calling for him to retire. I wasn't the biggest Tua fan but he's shown that he loves the game and his team. If he was out for himself he would retire and get a big settlement from the team

[@geraldbartczak8832]

He just needs to make better decisions and not to take any player head on

[@pauldelray5839]

Dolphin's offense is being out coached by every team they face. Total failure by McDaniel and staff. Defense holding up their end while being on the field way too much. Special teams and numerous offensive mistakes unacceptable. Mike has lost the locker room. Tua return changes what? Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin was interviewed before last night's game and acknowledges he loses players because they practice hard, especially on Friday's. Doesn't care because they won't fit his team. That is what tough teams do. Toughness only comes from the Head Coach who makes it clear that is what I want from you, the players. Not vice versa.

[@tylerdurden9135]

For Tua's first game back, the Dolphins' organization will honor him by giving the fans a free "Tua Bobble-Head Doll".

[@lark740]

Barry I wish you would ask them why McDaniels tyreke Jalen and I think mostert on sidelines laughing while we losing

[@richardkeys5214]

Barry Tuas concussions have caused him to exhibit poor judgement and lack of clear processing.

[@lastwordproductions9781]

It’s absolutely not risky for him to not wear the guardian cap it’s just down right stupid to not do so regardless if there is no data supporting it to help prevent concussions it’s literally just something to help u possibly not only further your career but protect your help it’s extremely foolish for him to not at least try to exercise all options

[@almamia229]

McDaniels is doing a terrible job and Grier has made a mess of this team.

[@JohnCerlanek]

Tua is not happy about the possible firing of McDaniel - I guess. McD is not a good Head Coach (at this time) and his concern for Tua was sincere. However, in the end his decisions were not good for Tua - or the Team ! Tua made the mistake and owns the results. However he was aided by McD and the Fans in this mistake - in my humble opinion, by "the circumstances". In my opinion: On the concussion play, Tua tried to show a determined and tough attitude - and realized immediately he made a big mistake. I agree that the Concussion issue is serious but look at the "non calls" with other QB's. He got his "Bell rung" and should have only been held out for that Game (or two) - maybe ? He pleaded not to be put on IR. Bad decisions - for the Team - and the Owner: Mr. Robb I believe we have to be objective and also remember: "we still have a " Glass over half Full " ! We have many assets and a bright Future - if we continue on with the right decisions. My Humble beliefs and hopes. John C Reply

[@MichaelRowley-z6f]

GREAT QB HAVE A GREAT O LINE NO O LINE NO GREAT QB.

[@cave352]

I think it's legitimate to have doubts about the coach, even if he has done two seasons as HC and this is the third. You lost the QB, you know that the level according to the scheme drops drastically with QB2, QB3... you have 2 weeks to prepare for the game against the Colts and this is the result?? It's not good!!

[@Laura-dolphinfan]

Guys why haven’t you thought it was ALL THE DANG questions only about his concussion that pissed him off ??!!!!

[@peterkiviat9969]

What difference does it make? Everytime he gets a snap, until the time he leaves the game, everyone is waiting for the next concussion.

[@danielcosta6238]

I’ve long since suspected that McDaniel is out of his depth. Winning masks a lot of deficiencies. I think he lucked into the job because no one wanted to touch the team after the Flores debacle. The league has him figured out for the most part, but he also outsmarts himself in those rare moments he has the upper hand.

[@user-jv5yp7el8d]

@@danielcosta6238 Getting rid of Flores was a huge mistake. We would definitely be Super Bowl contenders right now if we had him right now.

[@devo229]

Rule out QB sneak? QB sneak has been ruled out since the buffalo game where all this started 2 seasons ago what are we talking about here, ran a sneak and hurt his back then hurt his head and told them it was his back..

[@lark740]

At the end of the day tua is a grown man he make his own decisions some of us might not like his decision but that's on him if you want to be a veggie we can't stop that only thing we can do is support it js

[@i_tearespect8190]

It's not how they built. Honour to family is all or nothing. They are also not ok with taking the money and not see out their commitment. The only people that he needs to put at ease are his wife and children. When you get one of these warriors on your side. They will literally give there all, even if it means the extreme. It's more than a game. "Honour," whether we see it right or wrong. It's how they built.

[@nategon8511]

Dont understand why they refuse to play the rookies more, what are they saving them for? SMH

[@carlhurd4207]

Why not put Skylar in for QB sneaks? He’s a big guy. There’s a few teams that switch QBs for situations like that?

[@tonythompson8549]

Not getting notifications 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@jorgecosme2650]

Well, I’m tired of you two talking about Tua’s press conference and not showing it. I’m out!

[@StephenKirkHarman]

Tua needs to where the extra protection and Mike McDaniel needs to give up play calling this also will help Tua.

[@coastuncle1965]

Tyreek has already jinxed this season and maybe the next with his press conference lies. Don't knock on my window like that.

[@richardkeys5214]

Barry you say the Dolphins are doing what's best for Tua not True he has a serious medical condition that just gets worse. What happens when he never gets off the turf?

[@VishdianandTiwari]

Tua is a spiritual person! Whatever he is doing is based on his spiritual values!

[@wkazantzis]

McDaniels is getting outcoached. His timeout management is losing games. Plus he doesn't stay with what is working. Dont take Jalen Wright out when he is gashing runs.

[@lancemcdonald1317]

We need to move on from tua he is not him. Far from it

[@MichaelRowley-z6f]

I think I would drop OBJ LIKE A HOT ROCK HE IS A PERSON WHOS HEAD IS NOT IN THE GAME,HE HAS PERSONAL REASONS,.

[@darrellsalu4405]

Double standard and unfair treatment of a player. Tua needs to sue the NFL for labeling him of this. The world watched in horror as Josh Allen bounced his head off the turf and even got knocked out cold. But nothing from the NFL for Josh Allen. He even went into the game and continued playing!!! 🤔

[@rthompson624]

McDaniel says we shouldn't look to Tua as a savior. Um, don't worry McDaniel. I wasn't looking at a short, slow, pudgy, weak-armed qb as a savior. Lol.

[@stu1844]

Y’all act like River Cracraft is gonna save the team…It used to be “Ez E” and now it’s 5 WR River Cracraft.

[@michaellombardo7788]

Thanks guys great show

[@richardkeys5214]

Barry don't believe anything coming out of Dolphin camp.

[@VishdianandTiwari]

He trust the almighty father to Secure his life and soul

[@rthompson624]

I'm so sick of Tua and his weak arm and all his concussion baggage. I'm sick of Grier screwing up draft picks and contracts. I'm sick of coach McFriend to the players. I want a GM to come in and start to clean up Grier's mess who values a quarterback with a strong arm who can scramble without getting his brains scrambled. Enough of this sh*t. This team sucks.

[@trusoundlowvolumedrumheads1002]

That he's one more bad concussion from retirement

[@StephenKirkHarman]

Mike McDaniel is far from a good play caller. He needs to hang it up and worry about the whole team not just the offense. Sunday game proved it 1st and 10 inside the 20 he runs a fullback dive wow not smart at all.

[@stevedallas3488]

Barry is just mad because he got roasted by Tua for his question

[@blackjackgreen9499]

Hmmm pretty sure he can handle it

[@TheRobHess]

OBJ is washed. Too many Diddy parties and not enough focus on health and football.

[@MB-xq9hu]

It is a remarkable opportunity the Dolphins have this upcoming off season, whatever it takes to draft that Oregon QB we need to do it.... When your offense is built for a left handed QB it is hard to change it in the other direction in the middle of the season, never seen two players that look so damn similar at QB you can make the seamless change when Tua gets hurt, and he will, I love Tua as a person, but 7 years of College/Pro football last year was the first one he completed a full season in...

[@mr.majestic3851]

I do not recall raiders going in the tank when right handed Lamonica replaced an injured Stabler back in early 1970s , That is a bone headed excuse

[@MB-xq9hu]

@@mr.majestic3851 Your reply is what happened 50 years ago when Bradshaw was successful because he had 6 offensive plays so that his dumb A&% can figure it out? It's a different world/Sport these days... But whatever, I am not trying to fight

[@almamia229]

Tua is young and foolish. I hope he doesn't regret this decision. He comes from s family that has put a lot of pressure on him to succeed in football and Tua doesn't want to let them dowm, mainly his father. This whole situation is wont end wèll. I pray im wrong 🙏

[@rockafellagold]

Lol Tua has never did a quarterback sneak not for the Dolphins at least in this part of the problem you too limited with him

[@donjohnson3195]

Don't get Concused from a JV tackle... Then you won't be the Concussion Poster Child

[@cap4life912]

BUZZ!!!🤙🏼❤️🐬🫡🫵🏼

[@jorgefernandez5231]

Never done sneak ever

[@michaelpulisic9873]

Tuas analogy of driving to work being a risk ,is one of the stupidest things ive ever heard. People barely making ends meet have no choice but to travel to work ,hes a multi millionsire who never needs to work another day in his life. Its his choice to play ,but please dont insult us with this nonsense ,getting out if bed is a risk???

[@Scarymovies321]

McDaniel is a Terrible Coach! Dolphins & Cowboys just Paid their QBs Hundreds of Millions to Drag Their Teams Down to Miserableness & Idocy!!!

[@VishdianandTiwari]

Mohammed ali was the greatest athlete that lived on this planet! How did we witness his karma!

[@ShineOnn-l9n]

Just retire bro... You're not an NFL qb... You're going to get lit up again.... Save us all the misery and embarrassment.

[@orionrainz]

I'm embarrassed by dolphin fans like you.

[@HavocMane-xb4nu]

Aww .. Yo shine...you hit a soft spot.....his feelings got hurt.... possible a concussion 😁

[@KuspCanes]

His embarrassed because you told the truth... What a joke... lets see I a few weeks when tua gets dismantle.... Please retire tua.... You may not be so lucky next time.... just would be in your best interest to call it quits.

[@DrowMANZ]

Yeah.. Most can't handle the truth... He will suffer another concussion unfortunately...... STOP thinking he's the answer... because he never had been.

[@HenzelGrimes]

Stop being a Karen 😭 😭 ​@@orionrainz

[@lucascasey6867]

Defiant? More like a whiny baby. Like sorry dude you get the concussions frequently, and this is what it is. Nut up or shut up

[@tylerdurden9135]

"Salty Tua" comes across like a spoiled little girl. In a man's world, you'd better have the balls to back up a cocky attitude, and Tua doesn't have balls big enough. He's a soft player in a finesse offense, that was designed by a soft coach of a soft team owned by a a guy that knows nothing about football.

[@findaddy160]

Who cares get a QB

[@CamWard4Heisman]

Comes of as a religious zealot that would be believe his own BS.. if anyone thinks that this guy can take you to a playoff win only averaging 8 games a season, cut this guy and move on!! It’s a absolute joke, he made himself the poster child of concussions flapping around the field everytime he gets hit

[@pdouble9396]

Salty Tua seems fake and corny. He is a big cry baby and is sensitive.

[@StephenKirkHarman]

Mike McDaniel is far from a good play caller. He needs to hang it up and worry about the whole team not just the offense. Sunday game proved it 1st and 10 inside the 20 he runs a fullback dive wow not smart at all.