DON’T BUY LOWERING SPRINGS | Here's why

[@Jedi_Luke]

I've been on Tein springs with factory struts for over 2 years with no issues. It rides near stock comfort. Springs are perfectly fine for a daily. This video needs to be labeled "Cheap Springs are bad"

[@Nick-yf6wj]

Thats what im sayin bro, lol. These fools be trippen. Im on d2 and have lost zero to no comfortability..

[@mattm5786]

Yeah I have a 04 impala ss with Eibach lowering springs and put them in 3 months ago and it rides 10 times better and has way better handling... I can go 80 on an on ramp compared to 40-50

[@carvibewes4400]

Just bought my Teins for my eclipse Spyder lol

[@blakemartin6369]

Also depends on if you got it new or used. If the previous owner beat the shit out the car for 80k miles all on stock suspension then sold it to somebody that immediately threw some Springs on there, those worn shocks are going to be much more prevalent

[@jrlgarage]

@@mattm5786 thanks for this because i spun out on an onramp once lmfao

[@whittleturtle]

If your on a budget i rather do shocks and springs than buying cheap coilovers 🤔

[@biff128]

Whittleturtle _ ^^^ this is super important

[@hello-u2w]

Where can I go to find shocks and springs? I have a 2015 golf and I want to lower it 1 1/2 inches.

[@richie1837]

Exactly I rather buy springs and shocks to lower the car a bit than buy cheap coilvers that can be blown anytime

[@richie1837]

But if want better coilovers have to pay for a high price

[@chris_allupinya5613]

Shocks for my slow ass Veloster are 500 bucks and springs are $300 so might as well get some BC coil overs for myself or d2.

[@irungunduta809]

This guy is one of the most genuine guys I have seen on youtube. I do a Subaru but I like watching Justins videos

[@justinbuice]

I appreciate that!

[@JuanRamos-vj2zo]

The correct lowering springs will work with an OEM struts and you won’t loose suspension features such as adaptive dampening. You will loose it with coilovers.

[@babababa143]

I own new Swift sport which is pretty high and pretty comfortable, want tolower it just 2-3cm s ill probably go with Eibach springs. Want just lower look, as much of the same comfort as possible, and if there is advantage of passing through curves better, than OK :) What do you think about it.

[@boxerboy860]

Really? because I have a 2015 Lexus GS 350 f-sport and was just thinking about doing RSR superdowns I like using Sport+ mode

[@ichard_ray]

Thoughts on GTI springs on a stock Golf suspension? very little difference in ride height in my mind.

[@truescotsman83]

Yeah I have adaptive damping and lower springs is the way I am going. I’d bag before I d use coil overs

[@slimsaiyan4215]

Yeah like the d2 springs I bought were tested with the factory shocks and struts for my car. 2019 kia optima.

[@ayske1]

Lowering Springs because I drive a non turbo Mazda. Also because I'm 34 with two kids 🥴🥴 Edited: every quarter someone asks what's an NA Mazda 🙄🙄🙄

[@chris_allupinya5613]

What springs are you running? And did you get any shocks?

[@BanayatK1d]

I'd like to know was well. I have a 3i

[@Naspletan]

Me too mate

[@ayske1]

King springs. I think they're an Australian brand but h and r /eibach seem to be rated better. It was a 12 model

[@aminalone]

@@ayske1 yep Australian, Eibach would be my go to.

[@ZeD69420]

Actually lowering spring paired with the correct shocks will still give you much better performance and handling than cheap coilovers.

[@FrostRPMs]

I got Eibach lowering springs, and got new oem shocks and struts at the same time, and was AMAZING on my Mazda 3. No roll, no bounce, stiff, and worked great.

[@papi-champoo6033]

You'll be alright with factory shocks and struts on lowering springs.

[@ao8271]

Yh its and if its ur first car u dont wana spend more on suspension than ur car

[@aadvb6664]

If the shocks are in good condition and the springs are not too low, then yes

[@Kinglew23]

If u ain't track racing your vehicle lowering springs work just fine

[@firsttodie7013]

@@ao8271 LOL YE.

[@ge_370z]

You will be alright until you realize it was a bad decision and go back to stock. They hurt performance just for looks.

[@billynguyen710]

I have the Eibach pro kit lowering springs on a 2018 GTI. Had them installed about a month after purchasing the car brand new, at about 1k miles. It’s a mild drop, about an inch which isn’t really extreme on the stock shocks. Obviously coilovers are better as stated in the video, but wanted to comment that lowering springs will work well too, assuming your shocks and struts are newish. I’m at 20k miles today, and they feel fine. Not too harsh, and still has the new car ride feel.

[@Guilhermepalmeida]

I'm just gonna share my opinion based on what i've experienced. I've had both coilovers and shock plus sport springs and i'll definitely recommend a good set of shock and spring and here ir why: On one hand you're stucked to the height but on the other hand you're perfectly confortable that the spring rate and the shock will get the best combo you can get because it was projected for the best compromise between ride comfort and performance. And these examples are for Koni Sport/Bilstein B8 + Eibach Sportline/ Prokit or H&R When you're buying a coilover you basically buying a set of spring and shock that will have to deal with a large set of height configurations and it will never get the job done like a good set of springs and shocks. It is just not possible, unless we're talking about a KW or Bilstein or Koni and so on but most of the coilovers will much better give you a good looking car than a comfort and performance balanced setup ;)

[@calinikka4life]

Im just looking for aesthetics, i just wanna lower the car. Springs it is!! Just saved myself 1300$

[@aaronf.186]

calinikka4life how did it work out?

[@jpizel1070]

In about 3 months you will need new shocks. Trust me. Been there done that.

[@babababa143]

@@jpizel1070 Yo are talking nonsense, you cant generalise like this. There are lowering springs 2cm, there are 5cm and more, thre are different cars, 900kgs, 1800kgs, different susepensions etc.

[@that1kidjr]

Just did this, and it runs like Sh*t... lol, definitely should've gone coils.

[@calinikka4life]

Yeah i got springs thinking i saved myself 1300$ it rides like Shitt, bouncy , bumps hit hard , gonna look into BC Coils !

[@billwilson6096]

After several years of trying to tuff it out with H&R springs front and rear on my 2012 Fiat 500 I finally had to replace them with my original stock springs. The H&R ride became increasingly more harsh. Even though I replaced the struts and shocks the ride was still very stiff and harsh but less bouncy. It’s a relief now to have restored the stock ride.

[@fenderbender5987]

Correct springs will work with OEM struts and not cause unneeded wear as long its in the OEM strut travel range. Coilovers are harsher even if you can adjust the dampening, Springs will allow you to keep the OEM ride quality. You also need to consider why you are lowering your car is it for tracking or just closing wheel gap with some cornering improvement. Installing coilovers and living in an area where there are speed bumps, poor roads, potholes, curbs etc will just cause you headaches this is why you would consider springs with OEM ride quality but just be prepared to "eventually replace your struts in another 35K miles or so.

[@edgartorres474]

Depends on what you want honestly. Springs is good for a daily if you want to lower and keep the ride smooth. Coil overs is if you want to either slamm and or adjust to a perfect fit but it’ll be a much more rough ride imo

[@Nbdy-tj8rf]

I bought some AGX struts and H&R springs for my 98 Impreza L Coupe. I haven't installed them yet so I've been watching videos about the pros and cons, so thank you for this video.

[@roimatatamihana5681]

Bro lowering springs are fine just buy ones from a reputable brand such as tein and make sure they are designed specifically for your car

[@hugogarcia6568]

I just installed lowering springs and bought cheap oem generic shocks for my E46, worst decision ever, specially the back end bounces really bad, now I need sport shocks for the back at least (and will pray it matches the spring rate!) you’re absolutely right, save extra money and get the preassembled system

[@sakissyard]

Sad to hear that. So what lowering springs have you put on( any know brand as eibach or h&r or maybe sachs sport?) and your OEM generic shocks are Sachs aluminum? -Im asking cause I'm exploring options for my e39 stock suspension. Thanks

[@zackvalen8785]

This is literally what i've been looking for, the answer, thank you for a simple and straight forward video.

[@jay_riv_3268]

Great video, literally was thinking of coilovers but was gonna go the cheaper route with lowering springs. I thought man how is the ride quality gonna be and is it worth it in all. This video helped me realize its better to save up and get coilovers. Helpful video man, keep it up

[@justinbuice]

Glad I could help!

[@m1ghty_angel530]

Did you buy them

[@hirobojr]

Hi Justin, A couple years ago as an experiment I bought a set of lowering springs brand Megan Racing from Amazon for my 2009 E90. Let me tell you that for $150 totally worth it, Im riding 1.8" lower than before and the ride is very comfortable.

[@L-Noble.YT_Hi.Res-Soundminds]

What shocks did you use if you dont mind me asking you?

[@SoHoDon_718]

Idk I kinda like stock ride height lol, maybe that’s the cheapness in me because I don’t want to spend $1400 on some Coilovers

[@doseingit]

I dont mind the 1400 but I dont want to mess up the suspension in time one my 2019. I think I'm just going to go with aftermarket rims and tires first

[@georgia658]

Eiibachs 1.5 2 had me tucked and on rails $129

[@ayske1]

For some cars it's good enough. On my liberty GT, the springs are quite firm but not as firm as a lowered spring. I want to get some JDM wheels. Already running a thicker rsb and Michelin PS4

[@Jon-nz3dm]

@@doseingit honestly, you'd be better off lowering the car first. sooo many cars just look silly when you get new wheels but stay on stock suspension that puts the fender 3 inches above the tire lol. more often than not stock wheels on a lowered car will look better than nice wheels on stock height. most people still do wheels first and don't realize this though.

[@joshuamcf9660]

Sure u can get a set of prosport coilovers for £185 !

[@colinmarcus8723]

Had 40 mm lowering springs on my prelude 97. Had 400 xxx km on it. Shaved off about 3 secs of my time at zandvoort. And the ride was still excellent imo.

[@evanthomas3984]

Eibach pro kit lowering springs on stock suspension on the Volkswagen Vento. These were designed to work with stock suspension. It's pretty good from my experience but coilovers are just different.

[@prshntydv14]

Evan Thomas How are Eibach lowering springs compared to Cobra lowering springs? Even I am planning to get them for my Vento.

[@chris_allupinya5613]

@@prshntydv14 I've read they're not very good unless you get some Koni shocks along with them

[@fernandofragoso4118]

They weren’t designed to stock dampers, they just work with them but not in an optimal way. It just fits and works, but if the dampers werent sport dampers in first place it would be just a matter of time to have premature wear. How much time...? Well that would depend on the road condition where you drive.

[@nz7555]

Evan Thomas I have on my bmw 3series eibach pro kit over 6years...now on my new 3series buy again and its great...

[@zadeh79]

@@fernandofragoso4118 That's probably not true. If peoples stock shock are acting up after 20,000 miles, Eibach would have been sued to hell by now. Eibach springs are progressive, which means in normal driving (95% of the time) they are putting a load on the suspension which is similar to stock springs. It's only when you are really pushing the car, the higher spring rate kicks in. So unless you are tracking the car, Eibachs springs are reliable and won't cause excessive wear.

[@calmiller3024]

The knock on lowering springs doesn't really apply to modest one inch drop, such as the TRD lowering springs designed for the BRZ/FR-S/86. Any set of lowering springs that only drop an inch or less won't affect the shock travel issue significantly.

[@im.weasel]

This is exactly what I was thinking. In my head I was like there is no way that dropping a car an inch on the stock shocks and struts just all of a sudden fucks the whole thing up. Its just not possible. I feel like this is even less of a problem when using springs on newer cars that have adaptive dampers and much newer components.

[@popodip3471]

Glad you posted this at 3am, gonna get some coilovers right now

[@mercpindi5522]

Did you

[@slishady1]

I want to run tein endurapro plus shocks with tein lower springs on my wrx sti sedan, do you think that us a good setup?

[@nathanyoung8284]

Running H&R springs and Koni shocks on my Legacy GT and couldn’t be happier. Way better than any coilover at the price point of this pair (about $800) and it’s very comfy, looks lowered, and handles better than a cheap coilover from BC or Tein. You lose some of that “riding on rails” feeling you get from using rubber top hats rather than the hard ones on coilovers, but it’s much better for NVH and I’m already at my threshold with an exhaust and engine/trans mounts.

[@grandhigh1857]

As long as a respectable brand is used for springs the ride isn’t bouncy, what makes a bouncy ride is cutting or heating the factory springs simply because the spring rate changes and you’re also weakening the coil by heating it, and cutting them also changes the spring rate.

[@razorwireclouds5708]

I was considering getting some Eibachs and keeping my current Sachs shocks, but now I realise I should just save up and get the full kit. Thanks, dude ❤❤

[@patrickv6545]

i drove 4 years with a 1998 corolla with Vogtland lowering springs 30mm front and back, starlet with 40mm springs, yaris t sport with 40mm springs and a daihatsu charade with 40mm springs. always gave me good feedback on the nurburgring. So yeah i will keep running on lowering springs with stock shocks but with my current car i will do lowering springs with new shocks. Once i had a Civic hatch with a D2 coiloverkit but it was a very expensive kit.

[@spencer1320]

I am on stock shocks for now. But I am running H&R sport springs. And I have 112,200 miles and the ride is starting to suck! But they look good and take turns good!

[@coles_infiniti]

I'm gonna give lowering springs a shot an get a quick alignment and if the ride is shit I guess later down the road I'll buy aftermarket shocks. But doing it this way makes me feel like I'm saving money rather than dropping $5-700 in one time on some coilovers that might not even be that good.

[@jondevers1]

Very helpful, helped prevent me from just jumping right in to sport lowering springs, going to save the headaches and just go straight to coilovers on my BMW 530

[@daltonlesko8386]

I have Eibach suspension on my e90. It sits really nice and i do get a lot of compliments on it. The ride quality is absolutely amazing and my car loves the corners. Literally no body roll at all. No problems with it in the 3 years i’ve had it. The only con is i am pretty low, but i got used to it, just have to remember not to fly over a speed bump lol.

[@cosminc4355]

What shocks do you have?

[@daltonlesko8386]

Cosmin C I believe Bilstein shocks with Eibach lowering springs. Rode incredibly well for the money. Sadly sold the car though.

[@cosminc4355]

What do you think of Sachs shocks with the same springs? They recommend standard or sport springs on this model of shocks. I don't have the budget for Bilstein shocks and I only want sport springs just for the look.

[@MoonishGoonish69420nice]

Been on new h&r race springs paired with new bilstein touring struts and shocks and have had 0 issues. Goal was aesthetic drop without sacrificing ride quality. Perfect pairing imo.

[@jroe217]

2 years with godspeed springs on my 2014 Hyundai sonata no issues yet and ride didn’t change much at all, but thank you for the advice!

[@thelifeofmikeyy]

Ran H&R super sport springs on my A90 Supra and they were solid. Sold the car so not sure of any long term issues but I was happy with them.

[@GhostOfAMachine]

I had lowering springs on my Ford Ranger years ago and the ride was more unsettling, until I invested in some belltec nitro and it improved quite a bit. I was really in budget at the time

[@l-abi]

Casually filming in your underwear! You're hilarious man! haha

[@justinbuice]

I was debating on whether or not to leave that part in lol

[@2nd_gear85]

Dont push yourself so much😅 Your videos are great in your casual way.

[@wrenchgroove9387]

haha

[@oldkid6]

A lot of variables to consider, like what the car is worth, whether you plan on keeping the car, and what kind of car you want to lower. On one of my cars, a Mini Cooper S, I purchased it used and knew the value of the car would drop like a box of rocks, even though I was keeping the car I wasn't going to spend 2K on Bilstein PSS9's and in a few years the cars value nose dive. My second point is, the ride quality on the coilovers would have definitely been best, but consider the size of or length of the wheelbase, it was going to be on the rough side either way. I asked for the advice of my Mini independent shop and he advised me to just get H&R sport springs if I wasn't committed to spending a couple of grand on quality coilovers The ride is not bouncy but if I hit a pothole it definitely hits the bump stops. I also have MKIV R32 with Bilstein B16 coilovers and I wouldn't consider anything else.

[@Jabeezo]

Just saw this.. after I lowering my "stock" spring by letting someone cut it, it pulls to the left and i spent a lot of money to allignt the wheels but still, i am having trouble on the pulling.. 🙈

[@cfisher2447]

when the comment section is more informative than the video. this guy must have purchased the shittiest springs available.

[@trevorsoza7469]

Ran hr springs and matching struts shocks on my old e36 loved it. Now running hr race springs and konis with adjustable camber plates and adjustable rear control and toe arms in my e39 540i love it. Spent more on it that I could've gotten a decent set of coilovers but the way my e36 was I kept with springs and matching struts

[@jinxtacy]

I have a set of inverted Bilsteins on OEM springs. The Bilsteins helped a lot. I like them over Konis for cost of rebuilds. Monotube Bilsteins tend to last much longer as well. For street use though unless you're willing to release some of the gas pressure a Koni twin tube setup just does a lot better at absorbing the smaller imperfections, but big bumps can be just as brutal. A problem that I find with lowering springs is that they are designed mostly around stock dampers and they lower the vehicle too much with too low of a spring rate. Lowering a vehicle effectively changes the geometry of the suspension and can negatively impact performance, regardless of if it's a coilover. My issue with coilovers are generally ability to get dampers rebuilt, the quality of the damper, valving, and the lack of travel. On some applications you gain space for wider wheels and tires and in my case you lose wheel and tire clearance. Sway bars also play a roll in the balance of everything as do wheel/tire weights, etc. Lowering springs aren't inherently bad for street use, but on my model it actually effects toe, roll center movement, camber curves, etc. Very smart people design these suspensions and some thought should be put into how it all works before deciding to alter it, unless your function is purely aesthetic. Lowering springs were great on some of my cars, and detrimental on others. It's a pretty deep subject, but those that put in the work can find something that matches their needs.

[@zadeh79]

Eibach springs are progressive, which means in normal driving (95% of the time) they are putting a load on the suspension which is similar to stock springs. It's only when you are really pushing the car, the higher spring rate kicks in. So unless you are tracking the car, Eibachs springs are reliable and won't cause excessive wear.

[@_danieljr]

Always so amazed about the video quality it’s insane thank you Justin 🙏🏻

[@raulolvera-thorup263]

Interesting. The video says one. But the comment section says the other…. I am new and lost…

[@nuevo_mexico_cruizerz]

Lowered my 2004 suburban with 3-4 lowering springs and belltech street performance lowering shocks great ride and look.

[@kayladisler2058]

How do i lower my car without damaging my lower control arms. I had cut springs before and it was damaging my lower control arms and i had to replace them twice and my front suspension back to stock

[@hwrida]

Just bought some TruHart struts for my 93 Accord wagon. Gonna be getting some lowering springs soon. Thankfully was told about getting performance struts over OEM shocks to put the lowering springs on.

[@vladimirtalijan]

I drive a Honda Accord Type S Euro (Acura TSX in the US) with Eibach lowering springs only, for 5 years, and my car is behaving way better than with the factory ones, never had any problems with handling or shocks, they are actually original factory ones from 16 years ago.

[@JonasDarnettLoges]

Thanks for an informative video. I'm looking into some mods on my Mazda 6 2018 stationcar, and with 19" rims, chrome-delete and a bunch of other things, it quickly adds up. I was told that when it being a stationcar, it isn't (in any way) a performance car and the "ride quality" will not suffer that much when using 30mm lowering springs - however, they do wear the shocks faster than buying a complete kit. Coilovers, or shocks and springs are almost 5x or 6x the price of springs - so I'm thinking i'll just go with the springs at first.

[@sawedoff74thompson11]

Were is the best website to my adjustable shocks for a 2010 Toyota Camry SE and do I have to use the shock what should I buy the shop with it

[@jay-oz3yh]

Nice video, but I am completely happy with my eibach springs and sways on my wrx and it's done quite a few track days. Only got bouncy after being on for 60k miles, probably dead struts

[@DaytonCarCare]

If you want to lower your car slightly and on a budget $300 usually gets you some quality lowering springs. Coil overs start at about $800 on up but are adjustable. I've used both in many German cars and found H&R sport springs work just fine. Though adjustable coil overs are a nice option I rather save the extra cash for other parts for the car like tires.

[@NitinRashuworld]

I have been riding. My f30 on lowering springs and it sucks the previous owner had done it and most of my cars seems failing apart on every bump, is there a good options for coil overs someone can suggest which will not break the bank , thanks !

[@fernandofragoso4118]

Had Eibach Pro kit on B4s, everything installed on the same time. First 2000km ok, after that increased loss of ride quality, traction, premature wear and started to bottom out and bouncing back and forth on bumpy surfaces. Bought later the right dampers for the springs, the B8s. Totally different experience. No bottoming, very controlled ride, superb traction and much better ride quality.

[@felixyu3763]

Stuck with the stock ride height and went with the Bilstein B6 for my E90 330i sport package, but love the overall balance. While not as cool looking as your 330i, I'm happy not having to slow to 2mph for driveways or speedbumps and still supple enough for long road trips. Great job with all the videos - even some of these more basic ones!

[@L-Noble.YT_Hi.Res-Soundminds]

So you really like the b6 shocks? I want to get eibach pro kit and bilstein b6 shocks for mine. Basically to lower but not be a harsh ride for my 08 330i.

[@ricksteven7027]

Thanks a lot that advice just saved me lots of headache 😊

[@ricksteven7027]

Thanks!

[@davec5237]

Thanks for posting, was thinking of getting h&r springs but after watching this will get bc coilovers.

[@blakestorey4792]

A tip for breaking nuts. Heat it up with a blow torch and spray water on it. The rapid expansion then contraction will get it everytime.

[@Catholic1391]

Do you where I can get 1 inch drop front strut fully assemble with the spring. 2013 Chevy Tahoe LTZ. ?

[@SilverLightningXV]

As much as I’ve spent to make my coilovers actually lower my car properly I could’ve bought some lowering springs and gotten new shocks and would’ve been a lot lower for about the same 3-400 I was already in on these crappy eBay coils

[@xorbitman]

I have a 2012 Infiniti G37xS Coupe and Tanabe NF210 lowering springs. NF stands for Normal Feel as they claim to be only 5% stiffer than stock. However, I noticed that over our rough roads the ride quality is not so comfortable and I feel every bump, crack and crevice on the road. I was considering replacing my suspension with fully adjustable coilovers with rear camber adjustments like Tein or another brand, however 2 garages that I deal with claim my ride will be even worse. Some people on the forums claim that adjustable end links and/or softer rubber bushings are the answer. I have about 57k miles or 88k kms on my car and she's in mint condition and never winter driven. Can you please help? Thanks!

[@crazyloco8844]

I like that info on lowering springs.... Cuzz I was 2nd guessing on buying lowering springs. But NOW, I think I'm gonna stick to my 1st decision, Coilovers, all the way bruh! Thanks! Keep up the good work!👍

[@Balrockk]

1:20 When u go to a lowered spring, the shocks have 'less' travel to work with. This is whats causing prematured failure of the shocks. The bouncy ride is due to the fact that by using a lowered spring the impact force will be bigger. Hence, the OEM shock can't handle this force aka doens't have enough dampening strenght and will result in a lowered dampening system or bouncy ride. Conclusion: both the spring and shock have to be dimensioned in funciton of eachother. :)

[@1DrunkSocialite]

Balrockk but what if you have magnetic suspension with adjustable dampening?

[@MrAuto727]

@@1DrunkSocialite I have H&R Springs on my car for 6 years now and the car still drives smooth and my struts function as if they were still new. My ride is 75% stiff and 25% bouncy... I'll take that over any coilover setup any day

[@hawkinsjd11]

looking at doing H&R for my Boxster S. The 1" drop should be perfect with the B6 shocks I have.

[@chrisp.5272]

Yeah I’ve got a budget build, 00’ Ford ZX2, and I’m going to buy new OEM KYB Struts, and H&R Springs. It’ll be my first track car as well. I plan on daily driving it too as it’s pretty decent on fuel. It’s not fast and I don’t really want it to be, just want decent handling, and some driving skills developed. It’s a cheap fun car, and i think when I’m ready I’ll jump to an older GT86, with some bolt-ons, or a 2005 Porsche Boxster with some tasteful mods.

[@freddycansino3440]

I put lowering springs on my 2010 Camaro 2SS.1.8” in front and 1.9 in back,it’s a little stiff.What shocks do you recommend I go with,the car only has 35000 miles on it.

[@gotlumpz4upaintball447]

I put Eibach lowering springs on my 2010 Challenger RT and dropped it 2” on some 22” rims. It looked AMAZING! But… It made my car very bouncy and wore out the control arm. Even after taking the 22s off it was still a weird ride. When I get my Stinger I’ll just throw some coilovers and 20s on it and call it a day.

[@johnblack6340]

Which is the best coiled over stretch to use on a 2014 CLS Mercedes-Benz

[@raymondtuckerjr1886]

Great succinct video. I learned that 1) lowering springs aren't a good idea generally. 2) I can't AFFORD to lower my volvo properly. 3) It's cool when your car has the sexy, lowered stance, but it ain't THAT serious, I'll use the money I DON'T spend lowering for gas.

[@yosvanirodriguez7499]

Lowering springs are fine with aftermarket adjustable shocks, cheaper than good coilovers and arguably better ride quality for someone who doesn’t need super stiff handling

[@bobpepe1711]

Currently considering of lowering my 3.6L Passat, and going to 19" wheels. Great advise! Thanks.

[@joebloggs4191]

I was wondering about this. I have a E89 Z4 with standard suspension and want to get slightly better handling and a lowered appearance. I don't want to spend big money so coil overs are out the question. I was considering the Eibach lowered springs with stocks shocks but I did wonder how the two would work together. Eibach say that the springs are designed to work with stocks shocks but I wonder. Without spending big money I guess I would be better off going for the Bilstein B12? Would it give me the lowered appearance better handling but without sacrificing too much ride comfort?

[@L-Noble.YT_Hi.Res-Soundminds]

The bilstein b12 is a little sportier than you might want. Meaning the shocks are on the stiff side. If you want a good medium of low and good ride I recomend you get the eibach pro kit and pair them with the bilstein b6 shocks. You will have a more comfortable ride. The bistein b6 are about 15% stiffer than your stock shocks so that equals a little better handling.

[@sakissyard]

So what did you do? Any updates of your car handling, ride height, road bumbs e.t.c All in all Does Eibach paira well with bmw stock (standard) suspension?

[@joebloggs4191]

@@sakissyard So far nothing, it's still on my list of mods to do (hopefully towards the end of this year) but probably I will go with the B12 Pro kit. Some owners on the Z4 forum have this setup on the E89 and have commented that it makes a vast improvement to the handling without upsetting the ride quality too much.

[@sakissyard]

@@joebloggs4191 good to know, thanks for the information. I would never be willing to sacrifice ride quality over aesthetics. So that's why im asking sround on specific mods. I want to put OEM sport springs(Sachs or Eibach, having trouble spot any of them, shops or e-shop) on stock shocks, and step by step completely go from standard to sport suspension. No more than that. No more lowering.

[@abedawg94]

Been running raceland for two years now on my 06 gs300. Got them bc I didn’t have tons of money but still wanted the whole coilover set up. For $500 the feel is still good, not as soft as stock (bc it’s a Lexus) just a tad tighter. Doesn’t compare to bc coils on swift springs but for 1/3 of the price and lifetime warranty I think is a great buy

[@Kookbob]

I have a BMW 535i M-sport from 2016. Upcoming saturday I am going to install my new BC Racing coilover kit together with new 20" Ström ST3 rims. Can't wait! :D

[@scliny]

What about the TRD lowering springs for the Toyota 86 TRD SE

[@deplorabledave1048]

I installed cheap Tein lowering springs on my E46 M3 in 2008. Horrific. Three hours later I was on the phone ordering KW Coilovers and Turner Camber /caster plates. I later installed Turner rear camber arms. Since 2019 I have been running TC Kline and Swift springs adjusted as high as possible. Car still looks plenty lowered, but I don't scrape on ramps or sustain damage from road debris any more.

[@calumward1192]

Tein and kilen springs are designed for stock struts I find them good, though using them on standard shocks that aren’t at the optimum piston rod length can wear them out quickly, I buy proper made shocks and springs over coilovers, the term coilover comes from the coil spring being mounted over the strut so basically the majority of cars today just now we use the term for the adjustable ones, I find coilovers that are adjustable don’t last as long and aren’t up to the same sort of build quality as a good shock body and can’t take as much of a beating. I have tein endurapro plus on my forester c/20 they are only twin tubes so they won’t handle as well as a monotube like my konis on my Peugeot 106. Or Bilsteins on my dads Saab rally car The teins are 32 way adjustability I bought them as an ex test set from tein from testing purposes for the Impreza GD. Their site only claims to have 16 way adjustability on rebound but these are 32 way rebound and compression. The konis on my 106 are not adjustable but that’s a daily! I find on rally cars and most street cars shocks just last that little bit longer and have comfort in mind where adjustable coilovers are really a track oriented design and often you need to spend like £700 upwards for a set that will outperform shocks and springs on tarmac but not all situations, the good thing about shocks and springs is you can change your spring rates easy when you change how soft or hard your dampers are and makes it good to be able to match them so you don’t have too soft of a ride or one that’s too jarring and crashy that will bounce the car and be dangerous I’m not a fan of ap coilovers, definitely not ta technix and maxspeedingrods, I mean for the sake of going low no just get springs and shocks! My koni str.t shocks cost me £250 and my apex springs cost me £61 and my rear bars cost £27.99 so that’s all 4 corners done I mean granted it’s a cheap car but it’s only £100 or so more than terrible coil overs

[@jaypt00]

what’s the best lowering spring that will work with the stock shock absorber? looking for low on my 2015 mazda 3 sedan. thanks!

[@steviesteve750]

The purpose of suspension is to keep the tyre in contact with the road with as much force as possible. Ironically adding stiffer springs can reduce that, as you're changing the spring rates. A smooth track is fine, but a potholed bumpy road in Europe requires an appropriate spring rate.

[@oliviacolunga1548]

Using springs does it make the track control lights turn on Bc of the height change

[@stephenblakey4913]

So i own a zafira b n im on disability benefit which isnt alot, i was looking at lowering springs that lower the car by 30mm which isnt alot in all fairness, also the spring company im using states they are fine to use with stock shocks, i want other peoples opinions is 30mm a reasonable drop in order for my dampeners to cope or is 30mm far too much?

[@claudiapfeifer8073]

Just casually trying to decide how I wanna lower my civic hatch and then all of the sudden I see my hair salon in the background 😳

[@noahmartin9755]

that’s actually dope

[@Rolly_27]

how do ik what coilovers to buy? i have a 2013 corolla sport

[@theorylolz]

what about eibach pro kit springs? I asked and was told they should last about 50k miles before i have to change anything.

[@Momo_RT]

I’ve had Eibach Lowering Springs on mine for 6 years, on oem shocks, and guess what? Still rides well.

[@f8hemi733]

I have a 2022 dodge charger rt and I’m trying to lower my car and get better performance, should i go with Eibach lowering spring (as they work with factory set up according to the website) or should i go with bc racing coilovers?

[@MyBrothersKeeper101]

Been running lowering springs for decades on the rough ass roads of Northern New England without a single issue.

[@B58_Bless]

Thanks for explaining bro Great video again 💯🚘

[@rookietoprobuildz]

Definitely had to get coil-overs for the FRS. Loved the adjustable & easy installation.

[@defyiant]

Answered my questions I thought I needed springs and the coilovers you actually just saved me a ton of cash 👍

[@whiskeY_11]

Eibach sportline kit with new KYB Excel-G struts. As you said, I had previously put them on stock shocks and the ride was hella bouncy, so I bought these new KYBs and now the ride comfort is pretty decent. They were also pretty cheap compared to the coilovers :)

[@sorrow301]

well I have a Hyundai Senota 2008 and they dont have any coil overs for what I've seen so im stuck with buying everything seperate!

[@syg_fryd]

There are factory lowering springs that can be used with stock shocks (less than 1.5" drop) just like TRD springs on stock FRS/86/BRZ shocks & that won't VOID the warranty, & can handle full passenger & trunk loads without the issue of rubbing. Besides, some aftermarket coil covers may not be compatible with electronically-controlled suspensions.

[@tomnguyen1802]

My 2016.5 Mazda CX-5 touring is lowered on Megan racing lowering springs. The ride is pretty bouncy on different roads and some are smooth. I’ve notice a tad better turning but not significantly. Looks better, could be lower but I don’t want it to be bouncier than what it is now. I hope blistein makes shocks for my car, haven’t checked yet.

[@undeadexile2485]

I went with stock struts and ebay lowering springs on a mostly stock 2000 gs-r. Other than the comfort level it improved the car's handling. That may not be due to the spring but because the lower ride height. Still there is nothing wrong with lowering springs if you consider what they are, a cheap alternative to other things. Just dont expect a stock strut/shock to last as long with lowering springs.

[@kodokuproductions1570]

zip ties compressing the springs, when you go over bumps they snap off and sound like back fire which is a free added bonus.

[@vloguis]

I have Eibach Pro Kit springs on my Polo (brazilian version) since 3.000km, the car have 35200km now, I barely know how behaves on stock suspension With Eibach, it feels better on curves, but on asphalt ripples at some speeds I feel the shock absorbers reaching their limit, feels flimsy and behaves unstable I don't know if it's an unique situation, because brazilian cars have longer springs and shocks to handle bad asphalt