DON'T Buy the NEW Ventus Velocore Plus Shaft until you've watched this video...

[@Wahgwarn]

I also used to play a 70g Kuro Kage Silver X-Shift shaft in my driver and it felt great, then. Absolutely great for feeling where the shaft was throughout the backswing and downswing and great ball flight. In fact, a 70+ year old guy I was once playing with asked to try my driver and his mind was blown when he could hit it longer and straighter than his gamer driver. He tried it again, same result mind blown… 😮. So, there’s something there in the heavy shaft benefits… 🤔 I now play a 60g X-Stiff Ventus Velacore Black (self fitted 😀) which feels plays better, though a lot lighter. Now, I have a theory that the heavy shaft improved my swing with positioning, so now I can benefit from the light shaft and the heavy shaft served as a training aid whilst using it. So the “heavy” shaft phase shouldn’t be looked at as wasted time. Great content as ever Gaz. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@vanbalzup6481]

I’d love to see a video where these modern shafts bring older heads back to life again.

[@garymartingolf]

Good point! We could start to test older heads, pull the stock shaft and then tune it up 🧐

[@vanbalzup6481]

@@garymartingolf my personal request would be a SLDR 430. Somewhat unpredictable at the time, but with improved stability could well be the low spinning bomber of all bombers. Also sounds incredible when pured!

[@jimwocha4949]

@@garymartingolf as Sam only stocks PXG the value to consumers is the variety of shafts he offers and the fine tuning of individual clubs. Not everyone wants to buy a whole new club but a new shaft or an optimised existing club is a lot cheaper proposition.

[@garymartingolf]

@@jimwocha4949 I completely agree. We do touch on alot of high end shafts but as I’m readying the comments, It did make me think of trying to improve someone’s current set up with a £150 shaft budget, as a lot of people wouldn’t value putting a £300 shaft in a driver.

[@jimwocha4949]

@@garymartingolf sounds like a great idea for a video to me

[@craighaslam1279]

Always enjoy the content with Sam..Would be great to see Sam make his own KZbin channel and showing customers fittings there..Could watch them all day 👌

[@tommiethatcher7265]

Unbelievably great video Gaz and it was a great insight into driver shaft fitting and the difference a shaft can make, really enjoy watching and listening to Sam

[@andyfrizzell4352]

Good stuff again Gary and Sam. In the 💰 again 👌

[@isthereanavailable]

If you can, give Graphite Design a chance. I thought they would be too whippy. However, when doing a fitting with multiple different shafts, the HD worked for me and helped my ball stay more right.

[@andymason8834]

Great info Gaz. I must admit I've never had a shaft fit and this proves I need one as I feel I'm leaving loads of yards out. . You won't believe how many driver shafts I've got to get the right one . Would of been cheaper to go straight to Sam to be honest.Bet you buy the blue after that performance as well 😂😂👍

[@garymartingolf]

I was the same. If you love optimising clubs, you will learn so much about shafts and club optimisation just through spending a few hours with sam.

[@andymason8834]

@@garymartingolf yeah I'll have to sell all the shafts I've got ,then make an appointment with Sam this year . Keep the great info coming Gaz ,love it 👍

[@johncandlish1282]

As you say its amazing the differences in performance between shafts which can be identified during a good shaft fitting, you aren't the slowest of swingers so its quite surprising that you are playing 5S shafts because these all felt very soft to me especially the Red 5S which I really don't like and their higher torque makes them feel and play even softer yet, the numbers confirm the Black profile just doesn't suit you even though the Black 5S is not very stiff compared to heavier Black and TR Black shafts.

[@garymartingolf]

Most of my life I’ve been fitted based on club speed and then ended up with shafts that felt to me were too stiff, Sam’s the first fitter to go outside the box of club speed to find me a shaft I actually like the feeling of using. I know what you mean, it’s a shaft that you wouldn’t typically think of for the speed I swing, but because it’s the velocore, I get the feeling of a flex I like without the feeling of torque you’d usually expect in a stiff, so it’s a win win for me.

[@kane3952]

I bought the blue from Sam when it first came out feels great

[@garymartingolf]

It feels great to be honest 👌🏼

[@starks1974]

This is where players should invest, not the head but shaft. All drivers are maxed out for adhering to USGA/RGA rules, thus investing more in the shaft will provide that difference.

[@PhilConran]

Clear as day, Gaz, get yourself into the Blue +. Best shot shape for you.

[@wajopek2679]

I’ve been in contact with Sam. Hope to see him within 10 days (weather depending) to see if a shaft tweak to my 2018 Cobra F8 woods can improved things. The heads are immaculate but shafts abit worn. So far the new PING, PXG, Cobra Darkspeed have not been able to make any improvements with stock shafts to justify replacing the Aldila 2KXV Blue R 70g shafts. I’m a slow moderate tempo 84mph driver so it’s interesting that these new lighter shaft do not fit me.

[@garymartingolf]

It will all come to light once you’ve seen sam. The lighter shafts may suit you, but if there’s not changing the head weights to match the lighter shafts, you’re probably testing them with a heavy swing weight. You’re in safe hands 👌🏼

[@Handletaken4]

Bought a 2008 Tour Stage head with a 2013 Aldila Tour S shaft and Winn grip. Total cost: $75 Just amazing.

[@DanB-]

Love these videos with Sam, one thing I think is you need to see a sports psychologist Gary, your mind and feel instantly just makes you hit stuff really bad. Im only saying this as a reviewer type youtuber there is no reason with your skill level why you cant hit all those shafts "okish" and then of course see the differences. There is no way years ago when you were buying loads of different clubs unfitted you did a bad shot and then just could never hit it properly. You see it alot in your course vlogs, when you "feel" good you play so much better but once you feel a bad shot your gone for the game. Like with the black here your up to 10mph ball speed down for no reason at all other than in your head. I hope this doesnt come across as a negative I just think it could be interesting to see.

[@67Golfnutt]

Great video guys!

[@garymartingolf]

Cheers 👍🏼

[@icecmu]

Looks like you need a blue! Maybe try a 10.5 head turned down . That will open the face and help move the ball right also!

[@tomashmore4128]

Important to note too that Gaz can play a 5s in these shafts whereas a 5s in a oem shaft would feel really loose that's where the price tag comes from for the exotic shafts

[@garymartingolf]

Yes 100%, I have always love the feel of stiff, but I always used x just for the stability. With the exotic Stiff, you get the best of both, feel and stability 👌🏼

[@rocky45741]

Class Gaz and Sam ⛳️👍🏻

[@garymartingolf]

Cheers

[@ericj1412]

I bought the Ventus Red TR Velocore in 5 R Regular for my G430 MAX as I'm in-between a regular & a stiff shaft with my swing speed & the stock shaft was too floppy in regular & too stiff in a stiff. This Ventus Red TR Velocore in 5 R fits my swing perfectly with the stiffer upper section & softer middle. It's a fair bit of money to spend but perfect if your in-between regular & stiff shafts.

[@garymartingolf]

I was the same with stock stiff and X. Unless people have the same issue, it’s very hard for them to value an exotic shaft.

[@kevintimpson219]

Interesting! Out of interest what’s your swing speed ? I have the same issue it seems

[@ericj1412]

@@kevintimpson219 before my fitting it was 140mph ball speed giving me around 93mph, after being fitted into the G430 Max it went up around 144 ball speed & 96mph then i got the Ventus shaft, with this Ventus TR shaft in 5-R its 148 ball speed & around 98mph. Dispersion is a lot better & my misses right have all but gone as the stock shaft wasn't closing quick enough for me & leaving the face open for a slice. I'm now around 255 to 275 total yardage depending on strike & ground conditions. I've never been a big hitter, I'm 5ft 5in & 11st 10. I was around 235 total before fitting & new shaft so its made a massive difference. This is regular to stiff in stock shafts not being an option for me but you might need Gary's numbers for your self if stiff & x stiff stock are an issue for you.

[@kevintimpson219]

@@ericj1412 Thanks for the info

[@RaidersGolf19]

⁠@@ericj1412 thank you so much, Eric! Everything you said exactly describe me and my swing speed and my issues. I have an in-to-out swing and somehow can never close the club face and still lose it left. (I’m left handed). I don’t think a premium shaft is in my budget right now, but I certainly will be looking into it as I near retirement and hopefully plan to play a bit more often. Again, thank you so much for your information! 👍

[@michaelr9397]

Found this one especially interesting lads, I'm gaming a Mavrik driver with Riptide shaft, was going to buy Ai_smoke driver head to put on my Riptide shaft, now I'm not so sure, would say spending £150-£200 on a shaft from Sam be more beneficial?

[@bigjerm9657]

Are all 3 shafts 5S models? What was the swing weight and length?

[@lfraxurel4429]

how many of those stealth 2s have you broke? i went through 3 of them. 2 of them face popped out and one the crown by the toe just broke

[@lexxwhite747]

I'm using a 2024 Ventus blue, love the damned thing

[@garymartingolf]

Is that the new version? This video was recorded a few months ago.

[@lexxwhite747]

I bought it in April so as far as I know yes, it is the Velocore+ version

[@petekenny3774]

Hitting the driber well gaz

[@DanielleBarks-tg4fd]

How much!? You could afford a holiday for that ☀️ ⛳️

[@KentnDebi]

Oh dear...first mistake, going to see Sam. Second mistake, looking at the new Velocore+ shaft. Third mistake, trying it 😂😂😂 Kiss goodbye to another £300 Gaz. 😉 Mind you, if the casual watchers would actually subscribe to your channel you would have over 100,000 following and the platform to speak to Fujikura and have them suppy the shafts for free...the perfect price for a Tyke 👍👍👍

[@garymartingolf]

I didn’t go with any intention of buying a shaft lol 😅 We might have a little bit of support for this year from a uk shaft distributor. I definitely can’t afford to lose money on changing gear atm lol

[@KentnDebi]

@ Fingers crossed some/all of the people casually watching your channel, actually take the time to subscribe and raise your profile with manufacturers. Good luck with the shaft manufacturer 🙏

[@scallywagturk]

300 quid for a shaft is nonsensical in my opinion. There might be a slight "gain" that a fitter will emphasise as it's in their best interest to upsell. Different story getting fitted when buying a new driver and finding the right weight and stiffness thst suits you. But hey, let people spend their hard earned money on what ever they like.

[@KentnDebi]

@ You think that’s expensive Bruce? AutoFlex, who distributes from Brighouse, here in West Yorkshire, charge the best part of £700 for a couple of their driver shafts 🤪

[@dbo4506]

Every ventus are completely different profiles. It’s not the 24 version of the TR like the fitter keeps saying. The OG ventus the TR and now the 24 are all different shafts with different profiles. They hold their own space.

[@coreyvanular6195]

Bought the black thinking it would be like hzrds black , nope it the worst feeling shaft ever 😂

[@garymartingolf]

Nightmare! You should pull good money for it 👌🏼

[@jimwocha4949]

Looks like you need to buy the blue and part exchange the red TR😂

[@garymartingolf]

I know 😅

[@jimwocha4949]

@garymartingolf think I'll book in to see Sam this year for a full bag assessment. Better start saving up now!

[@sma3429]

What do you do if you want a sitting but don’t want to buy brand new clubs?

[@garymartingolf]

That’s what sam specialises in. He custom fits who you already have.

[@petekenny3774]

Gaz ...why you trying to hit fades 🤷 surely a draw is your natural shape mate ...so many golfers get into trouble trying to change path and shape can ruin games for a lot even pros (kaymer)

[@jessehudson3377]

Omg you where wrong. Now how can I trust that you haven't been wrong about everything

[@81FireDancer]

I can’t understand a word of what the guy in red is saying. He talks without even opening his mouth

[@edanzore]

These have no value. After 5 swings, you will adjust to a shaft

[@paulburton210]

No reason to upgrade !!!!! Lol Why use black ops then !

[@garymartingolf]

What do you mean with the black ops?

[@paulburton210]

@ sorry mate thought you were gaming black opps driver after being fitted by pxg !! Cant keep up

[@markpenn9355]

Hi Gaz, what are Sam and your opinion of the Graphite Design Tour AD shafts and comparisons to the Ventus range ?

[@garymartingolf]

@ I’d have to let Sam Answer that one, I’ve never game a Tour AD to really give any feedback. He’ll see you comment soon. Thanks

[@garymartingolf]

@@paulburton210 it’s okay. I did get a fitting on the black ops driver, but I didn’t pull the trigger on the day as it wasn’t with sam and I didn’t feel like I were swinging very well and the fitter could only fit from what he saw on the day. Sam then fitted me when I was swinging well, but by then, Pxg couldn’t send me a club so I’ve just stuck with the TM Stealth 2 Plus.

[@Gatorgolfusa]

Let's address the elephant in the room. That hitting screen looks disgusting and unprofessional? Love the content, but I can't look at that screen anymore!! 🐊🏌⛳️🦅🇺🇸