DON'T buy the Sony A7CR yet.

If you've been looking at the Sony A7RV and now see the cheaper baby brother Sony A7CR, don't buy it just yet, it's missing some key features which might still make the A7RV a better buy.
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[@chrisbrockhurst]

I just think the price is wrong on this camera, it needs to be priced lower to succeed.

[@DocnoXXX]

It’s USD1200 cheaper than the A7RV where I live plus extra battery and 64GB card as ‘gifts’. That’s a significant difference….

[@alexdubois6585]

I agree, it is not a pro body with the features removed. It is however tempting as a travel camera where you can crop in and bring less lenses (landscape, occasional portrait) compare to the A7Cii... But the price difference between a A7Cii and A7CR is too high for enthusiasts. I am however very happy to see a silver body (as a non pro). I am currently Fuji X-T3 and I am tempted... But between an X-T5 or X-H2 and the increased price on the glass side... (Viltrox 27 1.2 is a third of the price of a Sony 50 1.4 G) It is certainly a very big bump. Bringing down the price of the A7Cr would have been less of a scary move as I can spread more the purchases of the lenses thanks to the crop... And the Fuji Autofocus is coming along to a level that is now acceptable for a non pro.

[@Durka-Durka01]

Have you heard about any info about updates for the A7RV ?

[@dannyboy12244]

@@DocnoXXXthe gap is only £500 in uk

[@cameraprepper7938]

I think that the design of the Sony A7CR with the EVF in the corner is a great thing, but the EVF needs to be larger with much higher magnification, it also needs a joystick and a simpler, thinner back screen, then I will buy it ! Maybe I would even buy two...

[@Cthames123]

The value of A7CR is it gives much of the A7RV, (61MP!, IBIS, Autofocus, etc.) in a smaller body at 75% of the cost, (-$1000). The “doesn’t have this or that” talk makes me say if you need/want all the bells and whistles buy it in the A7RV. I’m pretty sure Sony says that as well! Those who value the common features of both that separate it from other models but don’t need the things that make the A7RV $1000 more expensive (joystick, extra C buttons, better flippy screen, better EVF, better battery, 1 extra IBIS stop, 8k video, etc.) are going to jump all over the lower priced A7CR.

[@POVwithRC]

Pretty much. It's the Miata to the A7R5's 400z

[@Sidowse]

I agree with Chris from the point of view that neither camera is cheap. The "Bells and whistles" of which you write are quality of life improvements for which a professional would gladly pay a premium (one card slot can be a deal breaker). For who is the A7CR targeted? Amateurs? It seems like a backup camera for a professional; the batteries are thus fortunately the same! So are you an advanced amateur for whom this camera appeals? My opinion is that the Compact full-frame cameras are paradoxical.

[@VynZography]

I guess SONY expects that if you need all the things. you will buy both cameras. That's kind of a silly expectation IMHO especially as we know a firmware upate will give the other model everything. Lets please stop making excuses for the cunsumer un-friendly decisons of multi-billion dollar companies, don't buy both. buy neither.

[@Cthames123]

​@@VynZography I won't be buying either, as both are waaaaay too much camera for me. It sounds really advanced and cool, but I don't need/want 61MP, auto framing, and a lot of the enhancements offered by both. Further the $3-4K that I don't spend on either is going to get me further down my path to financial freedom! Still, I can see where the A7CR fits into the world. The $1000 price difference is appreciable enough to appeal to those wanting a cheaper A7RV and are willing to live with the tradeoffs. My choice, (if I was making one), would be for the larger A7RV and all the full articulating screen, 8 stops of IBIS, larger EVF, Joysticking, and customizable button goodness it offers, but I don't need it and I'm keeping my $4000.

[@VynZography]

@@Cthames123 hi you’re absolutely right! A professional isn’t going to buy this with the limitations e.g. one card slot and it’s way too much for casual users. Most of the reviews I’ve seen are professionals highlighting the limitations, I’ve not heard a single casual user saying how they really needed this 😂

[@possisvideos]

I love my a7cr.❤

[@jason_chan]

I was fully intending to get the A7C, but once I looked through the EVF of the A7RV, I was immediately sold. It’s not even close.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

Did the video mean to end like that? I was just getting settled with my popcorn and it ended. Please gimme more

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Hard unexpected cuts are my favourite way to end videos 😂

[@kevjmu]

I respectfully disagree. I sold my A7RIII and purchased A7CR w/ light Sony 16-35 F/4 it weighs 847 grams 😮 with my Q3 the A7CR is a perfect travel setup. I don’t think answer is so black and white it depends on the type of photography one shoots. It’s not ideal for wedding but it’s great for travel photography & landscape photography ❤. Total travel weight A7CR w/ two lens & Q3 = 2.25 kg😊 covering 16mm-105mm f/4 and fast F/ 1.7 prime❤

[@Sidowse]

Are you an amateur or a professional?

[@erickhernvndez]

Was looking for this! Still the same situation? I currently have a Sony A7Riii but same I am not a professional and use it for travel and hobby. Looking as this as a next/newer option.

[@glaxouszanofi4852]

Here in the Philippines, I find the compactness a significant advantage. The public places here are a bit allergic to professional looking cameras (typically large bodies and evfs are in the middle). Thus I remember being called out and asked for a permit using an a7IV, even for the sake of photoshooting my family lunch and not even commercial purpose. They keep implying that the place holds the right to ask permit and deny the use of pro cameras for privacy reasons. Now, I borrowed an a7c from a friend and been to almost all public places shooting random strangers and places without ever being approached by security. Well I guess for the disadvantage of ergonomics, I'll go for compact this time (a7cii / a7cr) for that reason alone of not dealing with any weird prohibitions.

[@gunn1ng]

The fact that the A7CR seems to have upset a lot of Sony full frame owners and the APS-C people who bought the A6700 is a sign to me that it’s a great product. It’s absolutely perfect for me as someone who owns an A7RV already and was on the lookout for a new APS-C body. For me the A7CR is two cameras in one: the top of the line Sony 26MP APS-C camera with 7 stops of IBIS and also a beastly full frame camera with one of the best sensors ever made. Depending on what I want to do I can put the 40G on it for the most stealth full frame setup imaginable or put on a small APS-C zoom like the 16-55G and have amazing flexibility in a tiny package. This camera is literally the promise of compact mirrorless cameras finally delivered. Funny that a lot of the A7CR reviews are done by people who clearly prefer larger cameras complaining about their pinky. That’s what the other cameras are for, my grip extender hasn’t left the box 😂

[@JaapKroon]

This is video is just what I needed. No A7CR for me. The A7RV is getting cheaper nowadays.

[@jws6181]

the A7Rv is a 61mgp and a 26mgp aps-c in one body, traded in my A6600 on the Rv with the black friday discount and Sony's cashback...and I can stil use my aps-c lenses on the Rv 26mgp.

[@nickscott8488]

The compactness of the a7cr is negated by the FF lens sizes. Unless you use some of the smaller Samyang lens and maybe the Tamron 20-40mm. Alternative is APSC, the sigma 18-55 APSC on the Sony A7CR would give you a crop at still 26mb. More than plenty for most use cases.

[@POVwithRC]

Lovely set of G-primes too

[@Cthames123]

You can make the argument of using crop lenses but you are paying nearly $3000 for the camera and not taking advantage everything that makes the thing $3000! If you're going to do all that, (use the thing in APSC crop mode, why not buy a crop sensor camera, i.e A6700 and save yourself $1600?

[@msbrownbeast]

4:00 The body size difference may be small, but that EVF hump on top of the A7RV makes it effectively a much larger camera,.

[@Jonathantuba]

As a photographer, I would have bought the A7CR as a small lightweight additional body if it had been fitted with a tilt screen, but having previously owned the A7iv, I hate the flip screen. I am not buying any more cameras so fitted. The A7Rv is fine with its multi-angle screen, but I still prefer the standard tilt screen as on the A1, A7iii, etc.

[@StefanBeyer]

Good analysis! Completely agree. I would love a completely stripped down version of this compact body with a very simple tilt display at a lower price. Less buttons, fully focused on photography. Stick one of tiny Sony lenses on there, like the 24mm f2.8 or the 40mm f2.5 and you really have a good alternative to the Leica Q3.

[@mauricecolyer8024]

Had the A7RV, nice camera. Sold and bought the A7CR, worked well for me. I never worry about view finders - bottom line is, with autofocus you can "point and shoot", literally. Doesn't really matter how bad your eyesight is, the camera does it for you. Lot of nonsense talked about needing to have super dooper viewfinder. Most images can be corrected in software, if necessary.

[@RebeccaHargate]

I just (today) picked up my new A7r5. I was tempted. Didn’t like the lack of flexibility of the LCD. Don’t like the location of the A7cr viewfinder. And I didn’t want to hang my pinky off the bottom where it barely fits on the A7r5.

[@RebeccaHargate]

The final thing that made my choice was the $400 price discount that was going on this past weekend.

[@A1000Truths]

I have the Sony A7RV and the Fujifilm X-T5. I think the Fuji is a better buy then the Sony A7RC. It even shoots 6K along with having the dual slots, better screen and EVF. The X-T5 is like a mini A7RV for me.

[@collodionpositive554]

Great, this convinced me to get the A7CR over the A7R V, as will be using it mostly on a tripod for video the EVF and handling aren't really a concern. Used the £900 saved to put towards a lens instead :)

[@Cthames123]

Thanks for the great critical comparison and analysis. This helps me see the camera I should have been pining for was the A7RV, not the A7CR.

[@herokme]

the single card slot and body design (no joystick, low quality evf , small body, etc) still make me heavily lean towards the “non C cameras”. definitely think the price should be a bit lower! great review 🔥

[@daveericson8447]

Own the a7r5, I also bought the a7cr because of its size. I took it out once and it became obvious to me that although it's smaller and lighter which is nice the evf up until this point I wasn't concerned with was a real issue. With the a7r5 when you look at the photo you've just taken the image through the evf looked fantastic when checking details and focus etc, whereas on the a7cr I couldn't tell at times if I had nailed focus because of the resolution, the lcd screen wasn't so much of an issue. Equally as was mentioned once I put a bigger lens on it lost its small size attraction. Now realise that the a7r5 really isn't as big as I imagined and the compromise on size isn't enough reason for me to keep the a7cr, so I'm sending it back

[@ChargedPulsar]

You are using your right eye, you can find centered evf useful. Some people use their left eye, in that case, left positioned evf will be more convenient. Important little detail. Can’t say anything about resolution though.

[@StefanBeyer]

Isn't this the other way around? I.e. right eye shooters get and advantage of having the EVF on the left?

[@SLEHphoto]

A very informative video and a really good comparison of the two cameras. Thank you!

[@vinitha2679]

There will always be , “ for a $ xxx more “ you get so and so . 61mp with almost 80-90% of the features of 7v for a 1000 bucks less is an amazing deal . Specially the a7cii

[@Duc1198YamR1]

I agreed that the A7CR should be a lot lower. In California that’s $3250 after taxes and shipping. You can get a used and fairly new A7RV for $3000.

[@jgm3796]

Great overview. Agree with the firmware/software updates.

[@m3photo726]

00:35 “COMAPCT” Good one …

[@hasenmyer]

I don't care if it doesn't have the adjustable screen of the A7R5, but no way I'm paying 3k for that crappy 1M dot low res screen and a crappy view finder. Put a 3M dot screen on it and a decent view finder OR lower the price.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

def needed a better screen. no question

[@Cthames123]

Those are all reasons why people would pay a little more for the A7RV, (I would if I was in the market and I had $4K laying around that I didn’t know what to do with). That screen is bananas.

[@LMActionsports]

This makes me appreciate my Sony a7rv much more. I have size 4 XL hands and I need a battery grip for my hands to fit comfortably on the camera. The compact version would be way too small for me. I do wish Sony would come out with firmware updates like you said when they drop a new model. But I could never buy a camera without two card slots for what I do. Plus i use my evf 99% of my photos so having something smaller and less resolution is no Bueno for me

[@JamesClark1991]

I also express this thought once again: Why aren't the EVFs just detachable on the C line?

[@flatearth3114]

Because that would make the camera more expensive and not much more usable.

[@msbrownbeast]

It all depends on the purpose. For travel, low weight and small size if very important and I'd much prefer the smaller camera and give up some of the extra features of the A7RV.

[@dandobi]

I really needed to hear all of this…good stuff

[@petripuurunen]

Extension grip is _removable_ thus you can fit camera + grip into smaller bag.

[@tc227]

The hiker side of me loves the compactness and lighter weight of t he a7CR, but the EVF on a7RV is so good.

[@amroelnour]

Do you guys think size, evf, joystick should cost more than 1000$ ??? What are the other major differences between the 2 cameras, because a lot of us actually prefer smaller bodies

[@Cthames123]

In addition to the better EVF, flippy screen, joystick control, and 2 additional custom buttons, the A7RV gives you 8k video, better battery life, better In body image stabilization (8 stops vs 7), dual SD card slots, and a full HDMI output. The enhanced LCD screen and EVF seem pretty expensive which is likely where the cost difference comes in. When summing up all the extra features I can see where the $1000 price diff comes in.

[@Sidowse]

@@Cthames123 No, the Compacts have better battery-life because their screen and viewfinder are much lower resolution and consume less power.

[@Cthames123]

​@@Sidowse You are right. Saying the battery life is better on the A7RV is going a bridge too far. Looking at this better reviews say the A7CR has more shots per charge using the LCD than the A7RV, (490 vs 440), but difference would be hardly noticeable in real world shooting. Even with this, I think I'd still go with everything the big boy A7RV has to offer if I were in the market.

[@Cthames123]

​​@@Sidowseyou are right on the A7CR vs A7RV, but the logic doesn't hold when comparing the A7C ii is vs A7IV. The A7IV is rated to have slightly better battery when shooting photos. Understandably, these are 2 different products.

[@Sidowse]

@@Cthames123 The Sony Website doesn't seem to list the A7IV shot-count per charge. A strange omission.

[@Georgie_B_]

Hi Chris, have you done a side-by-side comparison of the colours and the exposure level? Are they exactly the same? Thanks so much!

[@Abdi_Mohamed_]

I like the idea of the ‘apple approach’ but I feel because they pump out cameras faster than I can breath! This kind of allows them to sell more camera bodies Think about it If your 4 year old camera had similar features as the newer one would you be inclined to buy the upgrade?

[@jackpatmoreinc]

What are your thoughts between the A7IV and A7CII?

[@LF1985]

You don't get the grip advantage. With additional grip the gripping area is a bit taller than A7RV's so it suggests to me it's more comfortable (many shooters also got a plate for better hold for A7RV). You use the grip with mid and larger glasses, and use body only with small G primes for travel light. You cannot detach from A7RV anything so you never able to reduce size for hiking. Also A7CR body almost a brick, it's easy to pull out from a small bag, the EVF bump is not in the way. It's seems a minor problem, but I often have trouble to pull out my A7RIV from 3L sling because of the bump. The fact it's 200g lighter makes a lot difference with small 24 or 40g prime, but not with 35 or 50GM. A7RV with 35GMis 1250g, A7CR with 40 2.5G is 700g and lot smaller package, it's even comfortable with a wrist strap.

[@benjhaisch]

If they put the rear display on this it would have made waaaaay more sense.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

That rear multi angle display would’ve completely changed my opinion

[@DavidVidiere]

i have noticed as of now in Germany the you can get the a7r V for only 500 EURO more instead of 1000 as mentioned in the video

[@dwightlooi]

Funny thing is I'll buy the A7Cr even if it is the same price as the A7RV and it has the same reduction in features. Why? Because size is worth something; size alone is worth $1000. I want a small, full frame, camera! The EVF is just fine, as is the one of the non-R A7 cameras. It doesn't affect picture quality so I don't care. More importantly, the A7Cr has smaller, thinner grips! I like smaller thinner grips and I dearly miss the ergonomics of the original A7/A7R before they repeatedly make the grips and body thicker and bigger. Finally, all the slight reductions in shooting speed, IS or the missing card slot? Meh, I was on the A7RII for 8 years and it didn't bother me.

[@Cthames123]

I understand the argument on how the A7CR is a smaller camera, but I think way more is made of the size difference than what is really there. The A7CR is smaller, but I don't think by all that much. I personally will take the bigger A7RV with it's more comfortable, larger, ergonomic grip...Also, I would take the additional height for that beautiful EVF. Good trades for me.

[@dwightlooi]

@Cthames123 As I said I find smaller grips and the offset EVF more ergonomic.

[@konradgos5065]

the reason for a studio/wedding/advertising-pro not to buy the A7CR is syncspeed: 160 vs 250

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Thanks for adding this in, appreciated for those using flash

[@jordiblanchcosta]

Best video ever. Sony must rethink about price and firware updates. Totally agree.

[@erickhernvndez]

Coming from the A7Riii would it be smart to move to the ACR? I use it as a hobby and not as a professional.

[@vetisonpainter8014]

The a7c line is really compact only if we had pancake lenses. Attaching a grip or any other EF lenses (except the f2.5 G series) you are back to regular a7 cameras. I've been waiting for a7cR, The price shocked me, and I settled for a7R iii.

[@luismoracmyk]

I would say pricing should have been $2000 and $2500 for a7cii and a7cr respectively. However, at current prices it makes much more sense to get an a7iv or a a7rv . Yeah, they lack some software features but they can actually be used on a professional environment. Lack of dual SD, less buttons, no joystick and micro HDMI instead of full HDMI really undermines the C cameras to be considered as workhorses

[@LightshaperQ]

I got one for $2200. It’s been inspiring to use

[@Thenelsoncarmona]

You said it Chris, they definitely missed the mark not including the multi angle screen which I feel should be standard on all Sony cameras moving forward. I for one will be holding off especially that we just saw global shutter with the a9. Curious to see if that trickles down to other cameras. For now might pick up a second a74 or a used a7rv

[@daniellindsay4390]

How you hold your cameras, scares me, swinging them around like it’s a toy 😂😂😂

[@Discofoxx1]

Did Sony give the ability to load Luts on the A7R V with the last firmware updates?

[@VynZography]

I've owned several sony cameras now and the one thing that you can't expect is to get any improvments after you have bought it. Fair enough, but the A7RV is a current model, so newer 'lower end' models have features that it does not. That's just stupid from any perspective.

[@Mohika881]

Great comparison video! Thanks. I have an RX1 R and completely agree Sony need an RX1 R3 - possibly with interchangeable lens option, although I appreciate why that would be heresy to some.

[@jukeboxjohnnie]

Well done on comparing the two, way too fast on the side by side shots i had to pause to see, doesnt look as much size difference as i thought there would be!

[@Cthames123]

I love your content @Chris Brockhurst, (your content is fantastic), but 4:55 I disagree with everything you said. The reason why they are providing the modular grip in the first place is to address the ergonomic issue you are highlighting in that with certain lenses the camera’s body/grip is too small. So, Sony provides the modular grip which can be put on and taken off, and you are still complaining. I don’t get it…The reason to get the A7CR and not the A7RV is to save the $1000, without having the ergonomic compromise.

[@meat_loves_wasabi]

The A7R5 feels a bit too bulky on some days especially when paired with zoom lens …Needs to revert back to R2/R3 size

[@IanDavid-v2x]

Very good overview. The A7CR just needed a better EVF or an optional 5k+ EVF for hotshoe?

[@oddjobprime]

Spot on on all points - including the timing for an RX1R3.

[@jigjitsu5599]

I would even pay $1300 for the Dual slot, 9mil evf, robust body, 4 way til screen & 10 fps vs 8. If i want smaller body then used a7c which i just bought for $1050 new

[@Cthames123]

I agree with you 100%!

[@SilatShooter]

Completely agree with your video! I was really excited about the A7Cr but the price has me pausing to buy. Too many compromises verse the A7rV. I like the idea of a smaller discreet camera but this is really expensive for a camera that is essentially the same as the A6700 except for the sensor. The other point you make well is with this sensor, it's better with higher quality glass like GM lenses and those are larger and heavier and not well balanced on this body. Sony needs to make more G lenses like the 24, 40, and 50mm for these two new bodies.

[@AaronCarr]

I don't really mind losing any of those features but the EVF is a dealbreaker for me, thanks for your opinion

[@DMRCapitalHill]

I actually never use the EVF on any camera

[@eyedearsb]

I have noticed that the image look sharper in the viewfinder when the initial magnification is set to standard in the A7Cr. While the A7rV images looks less sharp. It’s looks like the A7rV is zoom to 200% instead of 100%. Can anyone confirm this. Thanks

[@djsororaando]

Anyone else notice the comapct?

[@claw247]

Would the a7riv be a better comparison?

[@RandumbTech]

Totally agree - I posted a similar video on my channel. Last week, Sony had the A7RV on sale for $400 off PLUS a $500 trade-in bonus (literally any crappy lens qualified). I picked one up for $3k for the same price as an A7CR - it was a no-brainer. Sony totally missed the mark with the A7CR. Perhaps there is an RX1R iii around the corner?...

[@mbvglider]

People really need to stop comparing brand new prices vs. discounted promotional prices for existing products. If A7C R is $2999 new, that means deals will start popping up by Memorial Day next year. Good chance that it'll be close to $2k for deal hunters. Why would the same deals that exist for A7R V this year not exist for A7C R next year? I think the $3k starting price is reasonable.

[@RandumbTech]

@@mbvglider Nah - it's absolutely fair to compare current prices. There is nothing new (except for some AI and UI bits) that the A7CR offers while falling woefully short on everything else. Unless you really need the marginally smaller body, the A7RV makes so much more sense for most people.

[@mbvglider]

​@@RandumbTech The only people who should be interested in this camera are the people who want the smaller camera body. It's not marginally smaller; it's substantial. In any case, the price issue will fix itself over time because discounts will become a thing. There's absolutely a case to be made for waiting for the price to drop if you want this camera because it will, but I don't know why people keep suggesting A7R V to people who are looking for a compact camera. It would also be a fantastic second camera for people who already have another Sony body. It's a very specific tool for people who want a very specific form factor.

[@robertdoyle8972]

I went with the Sony A7R V and had to get the battery grip for it because it was still too small for my hands lol I use a size 2xL for gloves

[@artur.charaev]

Struggling which camera to buy, at first I wish it was compact, at second I like to use manual vintage glass so it should have good evf for crucial focusing. - A7CR - main problem is EVF and I feel I will have to add grip in some cases, i.e. for travel I might wish to take something like 28-200. Another problem is flip out screen that makes more attention on street. -A7RV is great it has almost everything I wish from the camera and much more so I feel it just overkill for me and I wish it was a bit more compact and weight a bit less. Rangefinder body also nice to have. So after all I'll be unhappy with either option. I wish to have something in the middle: not as big as A7RV and not that small and crippled as A7CR. And that never gonna happen, the sad truth of business: Sony wish you to buy 2 cameras.

[@Cthames123]

I have 2 full frame cameras, so I understand the mentality. I have a used (open box) A7C, “day camera”, that I bought form a song and a A7IV, “Night camera” (bought it brand new). I love the size and cute factor of the smaller full frame A7C, but its limitations makes me appreciate all the wonderful things about my A7IV. Both the A7R cameras 61MP! are much, much, much more camera than I need and I would never buy even one, much less both. With my current setup I can shoot all day long, but The file sizes on one of the A7R cameras would kill my hard-drive space so fast. but if I were in the game I’d go with the A7RV if I caught a killer sale, (June 11th 2024: Target online is selling it at a 17% discount ($3150) new), it’s even less used, and I’d keep my lower MP cutesy OG A7C for my 2 camera setup. The crazy articulating screen on the A7RV, the EVF, 8stops of IBIS for longer shutter speed shooting and handheld video, and the same buttons and the joystick that comes with the A7IV would do it for me.

[@MrChrisReaper]

Couldn’t agree more with the firmware updates!

[@primeautofocus5801]

Thanks for making this video Chris, I have had to watch this many times to remind myself not to sell the A7RV in favour of the A7CR as the GAS is hitting pretty hard with this one, the lighter and smaller package with the included LUTs preview is a real draw and it’s driving me crazy, I really hope Sony release a firmware update for the RV that would cure my GAS, I would even pay for an update.

[@Omikoshi78]

Lack of multi-angle screen is a deal breaker. Hate it on A7C after getting used to it with Panasonics LX10.

[@SimeonKolev]

Exactly my point :) the prices are for people who do not look at the price and other options... A7CII is so much more expensive than the Canon R8 which is almost the same camera on paper...A7Cr is too close to the A7rV. And we need small and cheap pancake lenses. Canon has now 28 2.8 that is something we need on the E mount. 16 2.8, Nikon has 40 2.0... Sony makes pancakes that are F1.8 big and more expensive but they are slow F2.8-2.5 and sorry but the 24 2.8 G is not the greatest optics... I think Sony are holding back now because Nikon and Panasonic are struggling. Panasonic released the best camera in the lower enthusiast class (now with AF) by far just like that from nothing, Sony made the A7rV with the screen like on the S1H... I am usually not a conspiracy theorist but... I think A7CII and A7Cr can be much cheaper and must be cheaper.

[@devenlad]

A7R5 is best secondary camera, performs great when I need faster auto focus compared to my X2D

[@NealAshbyPhotography]

Where is this 1000 less? In UK they both the same price, give or take 100 or 200

[@artmaltman]

What is the practical use for 61mp vs 33mp? Is it just cropping? Does 61mp create a better quality image? Thank you.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Essentially twice as much detail if you want to simplify it

[@t87h21]

Thanks for the Perfect comparison, thats what i was looking for. In Germany currently Price difference from 3699€ (a7CR) to 4199€(a7rV). The compact Body and the Price difference is nearly nothing. In my opinion the a7R5 is the clearly better camera.

[@fraanzfan8158]

Bro you have huge hands. I can easily fit all my fingers on a Rx100 😭😭

[@jennifercall9014]

Great perspective as always. Thank you. Of note. Compact is misspelled in your opening.

[@Eric-xf3hd]

well, that made up my mind. thx

[@Yusaku_VCP]

4:25 some people might have huge hands like you some people small hands, completely perfect handle for that cam! 😆 Finally Woody already escaped. 🤣 playing with kids. 🤣 Im guessing no reflector with background window.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Woody is back again now haha

[@Yusaku_VCP]

@@chrisbrockhurst 🤣🤣🤣 Savage!

[@Propaganda_Films]

This video totally makes sense. EVF, LCD and dual SD card slots... A7R5 makes sense.

[@markstpierre]

you forgot to mention the micro-HDMI on the a7CR vs full size on the a7Rv. I think a better evaluation to show the bad deal you get with the a7CR is comparing it to the a6700. They have the same EVF & screen!! what? $1400 vs $3000!! So you're paying more than double for the 61MP vs 26MP (oh, and both are the same if you're shooting APS-C mode) I was holding out buying the a6700 to see what the a7CR was like. Thought I would like a smaller body with APS-C lenses for walkaround, but would have the FF in the a7CR when needed. But Sony killed that idea for me, since I have the a7Rv, and no way would I want to pay $3000 for a substandard experience (EVF) walkaround "APS-C" that i could accomplish with a $1400 a6700

[@chrisbrockhurst]

You're right about the HDMI, that's important to know. As for comparing an ASPC to Full Frame camera, different tools for different jobs, can't put them in the same category

[@markstpierre]

@@chrisbrockhurst True, I'd agree: use the tool that fits your need. I'm just stunned that the a7cii & a7cR have the same EVF & screen as a6700, but are up to 2x its cost

[@joeg4609]

it’s a compact camera why would they put a whole HDMI port on it? Just get the slightly bigger one for stuff like that. they should have just put 2 USB-C ports on it so you can stream the feed out from there

[@ChristianLawrence]

As a main body totally agree that the a75 makes perfect sense. But if you compare the a7cr with say a 24mm G and put it up against a a Leica q3 then it’s good value. I shoot the canon R5 and have RF glass which I love, but canon offers nothing in this interchangeable compact range. Come canon get with it 😅. Tried Fuji a second time using the x100v and it’s always left me feeling that I wanted more from it. A bit overrated unless you are jpg shooter. But as a high res, FF, ibis compact camera the a7c is the best option availed at the moment. Just wish they had the better evf and the a75 flip screen. Who knows maybe the a7r could sway me to to Sony eco system long term 😊 Nice review though.👌👌

[@gerykis]

in europe the A7CR and A7RV have 400USD difference. :(

[@kolapyellow7631]

The a7r5 looks smaller than the a7ii. Is it??

[@b-sideyou7111]

I almost subscribed but then you spelled compact wrong so I was like nah maybe next time 😂

[@brianmuir9059]

Finding the A7CR in UK for £2080 online, that just over £1k less than Sony price.

[@Thenelsoncarmona]

I think Sony missed the mark with these cameras in terms of custom buttons availability compared to the a6700. It’s essentially the same body.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Nah these are compact bodies which actually appeal to a large audience, the price tag is just gunna really hurt

[@JamesClark1991]

I think the price is (kind of) reasonable. I say 'kind of' because I find it egregious that Sony bundles in that ridiculously overpriced grip and the A7CR price reflects that bundled item. I also have ZERO idea why the "new" multi-angle screen isn't the standard on EVERY Sony camera going fowards, the stupidity on that decision genuinely baffles me.

[@joshuaaruiz]

such a great video Chris. ah if only they update their older cameras I wouldn't feel like I’m being robbed of features when all these newer less expensive cameras come out with features that could be added to their older cameras

[@NYorkieMom]

How does the A7CII body compare to the size of the A1? Thanks.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

A lot smaller

[@bokbokeh]

that ending tho xD

[@mamumonkan]

what do you mean big lens not balancing ... love shooting my M2 Leica with my 640mm f/9 Telyt

[@NetvoTV]

Wow thanks for making this video, I'm logical and rational person, I see a lot time a thing just doesn't make sense to buy and exist at all but a lot KZbinrs just not sure why they talk like it is make sense to have it and get it even the Pros and famous KZbinrs, things like Apple MagSafe wallet too, why you want to stick it back to your phone and not keep it safe in your pocket, it's a wallet, but a lot doesn't seem to realise, maybe it's the excitement for new product and try to justify because their love for the company but end up losing their rationality and logic to them. Why get a slightly smaller camera like A7C line at all at first place that still not pocketable like RX100 line because you still end up with a smaller camera that you still need to put into a bag but still noticeable from far away as a guy with camera when you use and lose its benefit if you going to use a big lens but end up doesn't have the great handling and quality of VF on a slightly bigger body camera and it just feel smaller from your own perspective and handling, not from the crowd the full size A7 is just A7C attached a proper size EVF, better go really small or go proper size. But how is the pinkies on the A7 body, is it still tight for it on the full size A7? I decided not to get A7CII/A7CR as my first camera, it's exciting that they are the new products but the actual practical one is A7RV and I will get it, althought the silver top of A7C line are good looking, I will get the 70-200mm F4 macro G ii with 2X converter to shoot tele and macro and I thought to just use iPhone 15 with its 13mm, 26mm and 52mm to shoot closer things, less intimidated and always be with you too, I thought to get 16-35mm F4 PZ too but depend on the fund and if the iPhone 15 is enough, not sure if it will be a waste not to get that lens to shoot video with it and just shoot with iPhone 15 tho

[@TheCreatorsBlock]

Ha! It's nice to hear genuine opinions about Sony products from a Sony user. I actually made a recent video talking about a similar thing and what I think the future of the camera industry should be like. I also discuss some similar thoughts in respect to Firmware and Sony's approach (or lack of). Great video as usual Chris!

[@chrisbrockhurst]

thanks for stopping by!

[@jimi272]

Yeah, I pretty much agree on all points! Way too expensive for what you get… I‘m still using my a7iii for photography and one or the other filming occasion. But: even with it I think it’s grip is very small. If you come from a DSLR by Nikon or canon, everything full frame by Sony is small…😅

[@bluetronikk]

You have hit all of the spots! Does not make sense to get less features, if the price was a bit lower then maybe, 7RV is worth it

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Lower price and I wouldn’t have made this video basically

[@bluetronikk]

@@chrisbrockhurst agree! 💯

[@MartinV.]

Great Video

[@firehorseweddingphotograph3995]

I could probably have accepted the single card slot and used 2 with a pair of primes, but the ‘too low res’ rear screen is the dealbreaker for me. Everything else including that new grip, ticks boxes. So nah, sorry.

[@firehorseweddingphotograph3995]

Went on to get the A7RV and haven’t looked back!

[@GilbertTV]

3200 GBP for the a7cR ..is a joke the EVF, no redundancy & that annoying flippy floppy screen ..