Don’t Copy the Gaming Setups of Pro Players

Most esports pros use monitors that have TN panels and most of them are from Zowie. But should you get Zowie's latest and greatest monitor: The XL2586X? Can this even compete with the new 360 Hz and 480 Hz OLED monitors?
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[@0x8badbeef]

That Zowie is almost $1K and is only 1080p. That OLED is 4K. I'll take the 4K.

[@Game_Crunch]

To be fair in the WOLEDs 480hz mode it is also 1080p, except now all those pixels are spread across 32" instead of the 24" of the Zowie monitor

[@0x8badbeef]

@@Game_Crunch no doubt. No protocol can support 480Hz at 4K. But it may not be 32". Is this the monitor where you push a button to switch to 480hz in 1080p mode? If it is, the window is 32"/2=16". You get black bars top and bottom and left and right.

[@thomasboob]

@@Game_Crunch they crop

[@alieffauzanrizky7202]

​@@Game_CrunchOn a real use case scenario it's very hard for current hardware (both gpu and cable) to output 4k 480hz. And if you're using 480hz most of the time you're playing a light competitive game that's designed to generate as much framerate as possible. But with less price, you get a monitor that's not locked for competitive esports and can be used for anything

[@lilililiililili6363]

here before people nerd out about zowie and their "low input latency". For 1000€ you can get a 240hz oled monitor that has: Better colors, lower input latency, lower g2g transition, and higher resolution. 240hz oled> 540hz shitty tn

[@arshbimbh]

This guy selected his girlfriend by specs and graph

[@tatacraft791]

by centiliters of wetness and chance of grippage

[@Davinmk]

@@tatacraft791weird comment

[@BananaKyat]

@@tatacraft791 Ya just had to make it weird lol

[@coltzi]

@arshbimbh that's like how everyone chooses their partners. you go through stages, and if you let them pass. you might date them, so your comment is kinda irrelevant.

[@arshbimbh]

@@coltzi I bought benQ mobiuz monitor just on his words and i dont regret it And about girlfriend,I never had one😅

[@CalmConcept]

I wonder if Zowie could push OLED technology even further for competitive play, if they ever adopt it.

[@RegBinary]

Zowie doesn't even have the best backlight strobing implementation. ULMB 2 is currently the best. Zowie is only good at selling overpriced hardware. They won't be able to do anything with OLED since there's no backlight for them to mess with.

[@noidsuper]

OLED panel sizes and BFI/Brightness issues make this unlikely in the near future.

[@Apotheosis..]

Zowie will "innovate" it in 5 years time...

[@hirofps1]

i think only when they make oled bright enough to sustain 350 nits with Black light strobbing on

[@Darkblood14]

@@RegBinaryyeah but the asus monitor dosnt have much customization when it comes to the monitor which is annoying asf esp with no sharpness slider for a esport monitor

[@djvidual8288]

Normaly I skip through sponsor spots, but for you, I'll watch through. You really delivered on content the past year.

[@413fps]

some years ago at a csgo major where dell was sponsoring them, players requested them (by making posts in twitter) to provide zowie monitors instead. So they had to use cardboard covers with dell logos over the zowie screens. Since that day all (decent) csgo tournaments use zowie screens despite zowie sponsoring them or not (to avoid players complains) Also you can see at orgs offices that have aoc/acer/etc etc screen sponsors that their training rooms are still equipped with zowie monitors for obvious reasons. (but sometimes they still dress temporarily their training rooms with sponsored monitors only to make ads shoots)

[@simptrix007]

Pros like to keep things consistent to perform the best.

[@413fps]

@@simptrix007 yes we know that But among all tn screens they choose benq/zowie for a reason. (Or two) It have the best OSD for customization and it have the best stand that do not get in the way. All other brands fails at their stand aproach.

[@Eflaene]

Hey nice to see you getting sponsors (I don't think you've had any so far ?), hope it helps you grow !

[@zypern16]

I'll take the best 540Hz with DYAC2 for game like CS where one tap HS matters. For everything else I just need a second 4K 60Hz monitor. Nothing in between.

[@Lucas-jv9db]

i agree

[@arthur78]

Your monitor videos are my favorite. Underrated channel.

[@GMoneyy3000]

There will still be a market for 24inch TN panels. I have an LG C2 oled, a 1440p 240hz IPS and a 1080p 360hz TN (xl2566k) and end up playing all my shooters on the 1080p. - 24inch size alllows you to sit much closer to the panel while keeping peripheral vison - TN panel has 0 risk of burn in unlike OLED, and dark colors transition faster (faster response time generally) than IPS which is helpful for identifying enemies in FPS games - Zowie monitors have the best customizability in regards to sharpness, color saturation, and black equalizer sliders - A large amount of pros play stretched 4:3 resolutions, so having a good sharpness slider is important - OLED still isnt as bright as TN/IPS - high resolutions don't matter for competitive FPS games that have outlined enemies ( Valorant / overwatch). CS nearly everyone plays stretched, so again low res - 1080p still much easier to run, lower barrier to entry for new players

[@keeshh06]

high resolutions actually do matter but its more of a additive than a guaranteed need, and people who play 4:3 are usually jus pushing their frames to the max (which when you reach high enough specs it doesn't do jack) and also because the pro players are used to it from playing old shooters on 4:3

[@GMoneyy3000]

@@keeshh06 4:3 stretches player models and makes them bigger on your screen (except for Valorant). This makes it easier to hit enemy heads

[@thomasboob]

its the price that is a joke 1000 dollars for that piece of garbage

[@Violet-ui]

Why do you want to sit closer to your monitor? Also it's only a little over 10% closer, so like 3 inches You can adjust sharpness, saturation and black levels better with software than with built in monitor settings Resolution does matter for competitive fps games too. It's easier to see enemies on 1440p Performance is not really a concern for e-sports gamers, especially not if you have so much money for a monitor And for the average player I would also like to add that a bigger, nicer looking screen will make the game more immersive and will be more fun to play on, which will make you a better player too

[@marinmesaric6213]

@@Violet-ui yes exactly the "average" player. So now tell my why does "the average player" need 480hz?

[@inceptionsd]

Now imagine if they made a 24 inch 480hz oled with BFI for that money.

[@lylied8621]

The monitor I use right now (and bought with my first cheap PC) is a 60hz 27' TN pannel. I don't see many displays but when I got a laptop with a 280hz 17' IPS panel I learned that I prefer the older 60hz over the never 280hz. ofc I notice that my older monitor is slower but I feel like size is more important. Maybe the technology was playing a part in it all allong as well...

[@Marsk1tty]

Is there any benefit to high refresh rate monitors when playing games that are locked to 60fps? I'm looking to minimize blur when panning the camera

[@Alee-ox3ge]

I bought an LG Ultragear and when I've been playing for about 3 or 4 hours the screen turns off for a few seconds. Could that be it?

[@bepo13]

The biggest issue I see with these backlight strobing technologies is eye strain they bring with them. We finally got rid of them in past with flicker free technologies and now they are brought back as backlight strobing technologies. Lot of people keep praising companies for technologies like that compared when in past we were against alternating current for backlight. What weird times we live in.

[@faranocks]

Zowie blacklight strobing is much faster (frequency), quicker (faster transition) and less straining. It's really not even comparable.

[@Petight]

Don't know if you've ever used one, but for most people I don't think it's an issue at all. I used the 390hz strobing IPS monitor for over a year with strobing turned on 100% of the time, even when I worked from home. Never caused me any eye strain or headache or anything at all

[@pineapple6567]

I'd say don't knock it till you try it, trust me the back light strobing on zowie monitors is leagues ahead of what it used to be. I remember the eye strain i used to get on my old tvs. Recently purchased a zowie monitor with back light strobing tech and I don't get that same eye strain.

[@normaalewoon6740]

To me, the biggest issue is that strobing is not a plug and play solution. It's easy to mess up one or more of the settings required for a clean strobing experience, causing unnecessary motion artefacts, bad frame pacing and eyestrain. Most people just give up when this happens and remember what they were warned for. Eyestrain can also be caused by the lack of motion smoothness, which is not consistent with the much smaller amount of motion blur. You need some time and rest to get used to this, if sensitive to it. On top of that, TAA blur is a lot more visible with strobing. With nearly every modern game forcing it, it is likely to cause eyestrain for strobing newbies Strobing can defenitely be good, even at 100 hz or lower. I can use my xg2431 like that all day, without eyestrain at the end. My monitor isn't a factor of annoyance anymore, I can just forget about it and do whatever I like without being constrained. I only need a refresh rate above the flicker fusion threshold (around 85 hz for me, lower with less brightness), a 100% consistent framerate, v-sync, an fps-cap at exactly the refresh rate (to get rid of input lag), a high vertical total (aka quick frame transport, to make the refresh time as short as possible and give the bottom pixels more time to respond before turning on the backlight), the right strobe phase and enough overdrive to remove crosstalk at the center of the screen, allowing overshoot at the top and undershoot at the bottom.

[@griffin1366]

Yeah I noticed far more eye fatigue after about an hour and ultimately started playing worse.

[@woro.]

make a video about DYAC 2 vs ULMB 2

[@lirimeyer]

optimumtech said its same theres almost no difference

[@Jumbob]

@@lirimeyer yea, even the slower one is so fast that your not gonna be able to notice any difference without slowmo.

[@Matheuslivio23]

Could you review the HyperX Armada 25, 240Hz? I was thinking of buying the BenQ EX240, but the HyperX monitor is cheaper than the BenQ where I live (I live in Brazil), but I couldn't find many reviews of it.

[@WrexBF]

The size is the primary reason I'm still using my 24'' TN monitor. All OLED gaming monitors today are at least 27'' and I'm can't stand that size. Until monitor companies start making 24'' OLED monitors, those Zowie TN monitors won't' go anywhere.

[@knz2894]

it's actually 24.5 inches against 26.5 inches. Also some of the 26.5 inch oleds offer screen adjustment to 24.5 inches.

[@WrexBF]

@@knz2894 Those modes are blurry. Look up Optimum's review of the 32GS95UE. If you're talking about the 25 inch mode of the PG27AQN IPS 360Hz monitor which isn't blurry, that mode is extremely unreliable. It only works in some games. It doesn't work in games like Fortnite, Apex, and Valorant.

[@HenrySavinon]

Got LG’s new oled monitor today and it does just that. Oled 240hz 4k or switch to 1080p 480hz at all sizes stretched 34, 27 and 24. It’s amazing except for one problem.

[@HenrySavinon]

Problem is I come from a Samsung g5 curved 27 and now any flat monitor looks strange to me. It’s apparently a trick of the mind from using a curved monitor for so long. Makes my flat monitor look wrapped like if it had a bubble in the middle making the corners look small and far while the middle enlarged.

[@WrexBF]

@@HenrySavinon Look up optimum's review of that monitor. Those 24 and 27 inch modes look blurry. About going back to a flat monitor, your eyes are currently tricking you. Your brain will adjust after a few days.

[@americanninja9163]

can you recommend best non oled , 1440p, 34" (or similar), ultrawide monitors (21:9 or similar) for gaming and productivity?

[@ByPaco10]

Can you update the 1080p/1440p/4k best monitors video?

[@ChaosCraft0000]

Bro Switched language at the end lol

[@deadlylive_gaming7154]

Can i prefer AOC 24G2U/BK in 2024 as im getting at low price or go for new monitors?

[@jesnontop]

Yo techless, which one is better in your opinion? The AW2725DF or the AORUS FO27Q3?

[@RyTheFightGuy]

I own the AW2721D and its kind of a joke.. the image quality is on par or even worse than than my 24in Acer xv240y. which is about a 4th the cost. only thing you get with alien ware is cool design and some rbg. not worth it my guy.

[@bergdk237]

Some of the reasons I use a Zowie monitor, is they have the best on the marked implemented Black EQ, AMA, sharpness setting in my opinion/experience, and i care mostly about performance, since i play mostly competitive fps & BR.

[@lvlmedyza7409]

for me i like the zowie's bigger bezels more just because of the fact that they look better being all the same width, while others have no bezel except for just the bottom one and having a large writing of the monitor maker.

[@Kryzez]

I think the reason is mainly because there is no 24 inch oled. For fps games 24 inch is better than 27. I want a oled but i dont want a 27 inch monitor

[@karolkonieczka]

why 24' is better then 27' for esport?

[@Jamesified]

​@@karolkonieczkathe reasoning is less moving your eyes and head to look around but 27 in is fine for that.

[@Kryzez]

@@karolkonieczka well a lot of Pro players are prety close to their monitors and on 27 inch they could not see everything going on as the screen is just to big

[@BaBaNaNaBa]

esportlers don't care about 32'', ultrawide immersion. They care about visibility. Smaller 24'' better fits on the desk. Even on an oversized desk 26.5'' is the upper limit for me. Also PPI on this larger screen generally is worse. So if you actually would care about good image quality you would want high PPI smaller Monitors, like the ones used by professionals. I won't upgrade until there is a proper 4k 26.5'' OLED option with at least 240hz and UHBR20 support. So not gonna happen in the next 3 years ...

[@serantos]

@@karolkonieczka just a meme. Very few pro players really know about settings. The majority just replicate the "tradition"

[@C0nnie]

If Zowie made a 1440p monitor I’d be on that asap. I got the next best thing, the BenQ ex270qm which is 1440p 240hz

[@Physis_88]

EX270M is 1080p and EX270QM is 1440p according to the BenQ website

[@C0nnie]

@@Physis_88 qm you’re right

[@thedesk954]

LG coming out with 480hz 1440p this year oled

[@C0nnie]

@@thedesk954 I would never consider an oled lol

[@thedesk954]

@@C0nnie why not?

[@JD-rl2or]

I mean I kinda agree with what you are saying but I just can not play fps on 27 inch and pretty much every oled monitor is 27 inch or larger. I've switched back to my xl2546k after trying a 270hz IPS 27 inch.

[@DarkPhychic]

same,can't have 24 inch qhd monitor from more companies...

[@ronald0122]

I tried the 2566k and this thing is the worst thing i ever looked at. The thing was in front of a wall and i almost could see through it. Bought the PG27AQN and it is amazing.

[@Davinmk]

Either you sit 10cm in front of your monitors or it takes you a longer time to get used to it but at normal viewing distances 27insh is just superior to 25

[@FriendNotFoeBand]

That's where I'm at. And pushing the monitor back to get the same physical fov DOES NOT feel the same. I think an even a smaller screen than 24 inch feels better. Especially in close quarters. My best Soldier 76 game I did 720p black bars on my 27 inch and I finished with around 75 percent accuracy. Lower dpi and resolution have a unique interaction with each other that feels amazing.

[@djeneral6158]

Any suggestion on which 1440p 180hz / 240hz monitor to take for like 300€ budget? Currently using some Asus 240hz 1080p 27inch IPS monitor. Primary use FPS titles like Rainbow Six: Siege.

[@frallorfrallor3410]

i dont recoment 27 inches for 1080p, usally 1440p is 27 inches pixels per inch is worser ona 27 vs 24

[@gnshp8167]

TN is such a huge turnoff for me , thats why i bought one of the first 144Hz VA panels back when it got released. I will wait until the OLED's get cheaper and probably gonna upgrade to that in sometime.

[@ChristianPhone-sz2ty]

hi bro can you please make a settings for 271 QRX settings. i really love your videos

[@-Noble]

Wondering if you would want to check out the KTC H27T22S 1440p 180hz monitor? i got it on sale for 120, but right now it is 155 it's a fast ips, not va

[@Primatenkot]

can you make a update on iems gaming? nice video, keep going

[@dangers]

Where can get the wallpaper shown in the video?

[@Gershy13]

How are you finding the Akko YOTD keyboard? Video coming soon?

[@techlessYT]

Yes, video coming soon 😊

[@konstantinFPS]

I don't agree,some people have the money to have a gaming monitor as well as a OLED 4K monitor for content.Hardcore "gamers' don't care about your colour gamate or modern asthetics,the only thing we care about is PERFORMANCE,speaking from a strictly competitive FPS background.But for casuals getting a good OLED 240Hz will do for everything.

[@ainesh1406]

Watching this video on my XL2566k. 360 HZ TN PANEL !!!

[@arthurcuesta6041]

I think they'll switch when Zowie makes an oled monitor. Pros use the same monitors they use in tournaments, and the ones in tournaments currently are made by Zowie due to advertising and such. Once Zowie makes oled monitors and put them in tournaments, they'll switch.

[@malithaw]

Man I love this channel. He deserves the same recognition optimum has received.

[@neoncandi7880]

pros wont adopt the oled quickly cause of the burn in issue they put to many hours into one game and those games usually have static hud elements. even with the best anti burn in tech its a problem when you play that much

[@drbrofessor7956]

Bester Channel mit Optimum

[@hiramabiff604]

I understand the decision not to utilize oled for a display targeted toward ESports pros and enthusiasts. Burn in isn't too much of an issue for the average consumer cycling through different games with varying huds, but when you're 10k hours into the same game with the same hud, I'd imagine burn in would occur.

[@johnnybravo69420]

Yeah, there’s equipment that measures better compared to most things pros have in their setups, especially when we’re considering the pros’ personal setups. Tournament setups tend to be better. Besides, other peripherals they use aren’t the actual best in pretty much 90%+ of the cases. So, pros could actually optimize their setups in lots of regards besides monitors.

[@videogaminbiker889]

9:18 is the only reason that actually matters for what pros use really, everything else doesn't matter nearly as much.

[@butter6095]

7:00 thats trippy

[@hirofps1]

You forgot to mention one thing, pros care about motion clarity and BRIGHTNESS, TN still have the edge on this two aspects at the same time (at least zowie has) you can use dayac2 and still maintain high brightness. I think zowie will only switch to OLED when they make it bright enough to sustain 350 nits with Black light strobbing on (or watever they call it when is not the back light that is strobing). So basically Zowie are still using TN because they undestand pros and tryhard player like no other company.

[@griffin1366]

Problem with OLED is that there aren't any 24" models (yet..?)

[@Acem8887]

imagine if zowie makes an oled 24 incher..

[@JunsuePark]

Great video

[@johnnyodriscoll585]

Hey techless I am looking to buy a 1440p 120+hz monitor for a xbox series x any recommendations under €250 your my favourite tech reviewer I trust your recommendations

[@mohamedim3270]

what about the asus 540hz ? it it better than the zowie

[@triplespace007]

They were the first brand to make it big, and will replace your monitor if it ever breaks (I don't mean punch you monitor).

[@AkanagamaR6]

bro saved the best for last

[@lukeX2m]

honestly, as a sweaty tryhard gamer, i enjoy zero compromise high refresh rate monitors that are smooth. literally through the video you can see the zowie clarity. im rocking the backlight strobing viewsonic 240hz and its just fantastic for counterstrike. a high rez high refresh rate simply cannot offer the clarity and smoothness.

[@GFClocked]

Now if only we could get qdoled 480hz I'd finally be able to get the monitor or my dreams

[@xythiera7255]

Dont realy see the point 480hz is not that much differents to 360hz

[@GFClocked]

@@xythiera7255 it is different. How can you say 33% improvement isn't much difference? Then 4090 and 4080 aren't so different, why pay double

[@Katze822228]

It's zowie, they'll switch to oled monitors years after every pro started using them. Just look at their mice, they're always years behind everyone else and they only catch up with technological advancements once noone buys their stuff anymore. Their first wireless mice were on par with the g pro wireless in terms of specs and weight but zowie released them 5 years later. And zowies latest mouse the u2 is on par with the gpx 1 but they released it 2 years later. And currently you can get 50 gramm mice with high polling rate and good built quality from china for 50€ but to get the same from zowie we'll have to wait a few more years and pay 3x the price. It'll be the same with monitors.

[@MakeSh00t]

Zowie TN 540hz cost 1300 euros and LG 480hz dual 1400 euros... Normal i will go for oled :D 540hz TN zowie can not keep with refresh rate vs 360hz.. it was tested

[@yoked391]

you need a good pc, to push 480fps, with dyac, you can run 144fps at 144hz and blow away 480hz in motion clarity

[@thefreemarketeer765]

At the most recent CS2 tournaments they are only using the 360HZ Zowie monitors, and making insane plays.

[@DLMinecraftTutos]

And the funny thing is that most pros dont even use dyac

[@Amp_Edition]

Pros get them free to promote the brand.

[@suprjudy]

It adds to your gravitas, and seems interesting as unknown rhetoric to a noob, but it's incredibly misleading to call a 540hz dyac+ 2 display "old tech" XD this crap is the cutting edge and came out before the 480hz oled. (most pros use the 2546k still today and most tournament setups do as well)

[@moon.trance]

You don't need to be a pro to buy good monitor. Zowie looks nice and minimalistic, perfect screen size, fast panels, dyac is actually top-tier solution. I bought 2566k for 600 bucks and that's best monitor I've had. I would never trade it for 4K 480hz 32" OLED cuz I don't care about colors, fancy resolutions, lgbt backlit or whatever. If you're playing competitive shooters, buy Zowie, you not gonna be disappointed.

[@frantello8808]

Zowie is overpriced tho, u can find even better monitors for esports than them

[@moon.trance]

@@frantello8808 well it depends on your country. What would you buy instead of Zowie? Requirements: 360hz, backlight strobbing, 24-25", $600.

[@Divinity_vA]

2024 and Zowie still have these 90's bezels its so ridiculous like, ffs just make something appealing.

[@omg432111]

7:48 bro is a gamer

[@JohnnyEMatos]

Pros don't enjoy games, they work games

[@marinmesaric6213]

yea I will buy an expensive massive 32" oled monitor that will get burn ins and become unusable just to play cs at 1280:960 4:3 stretched

[@FriendNotFoeBand]

No one else has a 24 inch monitor that can compete. If we had 24 inch oled at 1080p or 1440p the tune would change. Native resolution just feels better. The only non-native resolutions that feel great are black bars or stretched at 720/760. Also dyac is amazing and Zowie has way better support than Asus. It's more than just status quo. Edit: the best aim feeling I've ever had is on 400 dpi on 720/760p monitors. Even at lower refresh. Something about having less pixels to aim at and the interaction of the pointer at 400 dpi just feels amazing even though it looks like garbage. 1440p at 800 dpi is comparable, but 27 inch screen does something to my brain that does not feel as precise.

[@user-fy4rn9mf1p]

You forgot size. Pro players prefer 24/25 inch size monitors.

[@Funay31]

Gaming monitors and E-Sports monitors are 2 different things It's like putting a Supercar and a Professional Racecar side by side One is made for casuals and the other one is made for professionals, no offense but facts

[@potato8236]

Zowie is probably not gonna adopt OLED for their High-End E-Sports Monitors. The deciding factor here is that if their popularity is due to them sponsoring many events, then choosing OLED would be the worst. I have to close my shutters to see anything on my 250nits OLED, being in a e-sports venue with that much light all around is just too much for any OLED monitor currently on the market.

[@Evoskylution17]

hi, I have an old laptop (2017 model) that don't support Windows 10 now. So I just found out about Mini PC. Is it a thing nowadays or its not worth it? Thinking of getting one to just "I have a PC" (KZbin,Googling, etc.) because I have XSX for gaming.

[@arcticowl1091]

wdym you can't install windows 10 on a 2017 laptop? windows 10 came out in 2015, you're probably doing something wrong. mini PC's are way too expensive for what they are, waste of money unless you absolutely need to save space.

[@ItiankShorts]

If laptop is running slow because of windows install linux on it. That will breathe new life into it. If new to linux i would recommend linux lite or linix mint(mate edition)

[@sasufle1392]

Hey ! What is your sound card ?

[@techlessYT]

RME ADI-2 Pro ✌️

[@sasufle1392]

@@techlessYT Thanks ! I got a beringher umc-22 and i need to upgrade lol there is a awfull background noise when using my iems

[@sasufle1392]

@@techlessYT OOF i just saw the price lmao nevermind

[@techlessYT]

Yeah it's a bit pricy... I'd suggest checking out Julian Krause's review of the Topping E2x2. It has one of the lowest noise outputs available right now. Or you could always get something like the ifi iematch.

[@sasufle1392]

@@techlessYT thx !

[@wrongly5286]

From personal experience: I had 75hz 1ms benq monitor was pretty fast for 75hz. Then i bought msi g2412 170hz thinking it would be better than 75hz but for me it is not, Msi is smoother but when you turn your mouse is very slow its now always the hz, benq is benq and it has price for a reason.

[@Pe721]

show me the ulmb mode on lg c2 compared to dyac+ and you dont talk about dyac+ vs dyac2 that coms with no sync. You also dont talk about brightnees in oled that makes problems and has burnin. Also you dont talk about Fast TN panels beeing IPS lvls of good. This Video is just a Benq hate video. I dont like it. You need 480 hz and fps on oled to achive whatn a good benq tn can do at 240 hz and fps. In Shooters the image is always moving when i play and try to hit. How hard is it to understand for you?

[@keeshh06]

Of course he isnt talking about the problems in this video, its a vid on WHY not to get monitors that pro players use. If it was a more in depth vid then yeah i could agree but hes saying why not to get a tn panel vs oled. Also hes comparing the monitors and features in the vid, no reason to bring up dyac+ when no product in the video mentions it

[@Violet-ui]

strobing just does not matter as much at 360+Hz, as shown in the video if your PC can't do more than 240fps, then yes, strobing will make a big difference but then you wouldn't spend so much money on a monitor if your PC is so weak

[@n1coR]

Pros need it, so the consumer needs it. (obviously not, 99% of gamers are never reaching any high skill ceiling) but making them think they need it, sells more.

[@4ikibrikivdamk3]

Burn in - pros playing for hours each day same game, so maybe OLEDs will come to E-sports, but they will need to be replaced quite often.

[@mrxcs]

Also always the same game and UI.

[@ClassifiedGrayZoneWarfare]

Master of yapping and dragging out the video

[@yarincool1237]

Pros need 1440p and they don't even know it, especially since they sit so close to the monitor.

[@bradleyhenry2411]

If they made a 25 inch 1440p high refresh, fast response. The pros would probably switch.

[@yarincool1237]

@@bradleyhenry2411 yes I dont understand why it hasn't been done yet, there's only like a couple 165hz ones.

[@maozedowner5915]

No, pro players don't choose to use it. They're sponsored to use it.

[@muhammederenkaradag3881]

But don't pros prefer disabling Dyac? There was a few ESL youtube video about pro settings. If im not mistaken they don't even use that feature

[@jonasba2764]

Some do, some don't. The real reason they all use Zowie monitors is because that's also what they will be playing with at tournaments, so they might as well get used to it.

[@kelownatechkid]

OLED is a non-starter for desktop usage due to the subpixel layout. Anyone who is a professional fps player has great vision and will instantly notice fringing and switch back

[@0xszander0]

My reason to use Zowie is because its both good for esports + 8hr a day productivity work hooked up to a work laptop. Something I still don't want to do on a oled monitor due to burn in risk. Two monitors is only possible if you have the space on your desk. And then there are also no 24 inch oleds. I wish Zowie made a good miniled monitor, that would solve it all.

[@carloscorona3143]

Mini-led monitors don't have fast response times to the same level as TN panels And back light strobing usually doesn't work with VRR I doubt it'll work with local dimming as well.

[@chlebaQQ]

Most pros don’t know sh*t about settings…

[@casper3677]

This new 540Hz doesnt make that much sense, like in cs2 at least you will never do 540 fps, most of the pros lock the frames at 400 to 500 for more consistency frametimes. So idk, the XL2566K is still the bette choise for me.

[@srvuk]

Whilst there are good reasons to use some stats to choose the best monitor suited to particular needs, I think that in this respect, all the stats in the world are rather meaningless. A great player is a great player and could use any monitor. Humans also have great ability to acclimate very quickly and people also have varying degrees of eyesight quality. So for me, the whole Zowie thing is almost certainly a brand/style over substance thing, where the mark-up on these TN monitors is going to be enormous but like the Apple effect, if it seems cool, then it is, resulting in more easy displacement of money from suckers purchasing them. A grand for that monitor should have people laughing their socks off but ....

[@FlamencoDeniz]

kind of wrong direction. it's more: organizers use zowie monitors - gamers want to practice on the same hardware as in tournaments - gamers get zowie monitors

[@collinsgichuhi8255]

Why do you look AI Animated?

[@waterflowzz]

As someone that has owned all the 240hz zowie monitors, zowie is overrated. They’re just outdated. If you want a 540 hz tn get an asus or wait for new oled tech.

[@elliottsalt]

I still love my 60hz ips panel I'm not a pro, I don't care about having over 60hz.

[@Caydos]

Its insane if anyone's paying that money for a disgusting wildebeest of a TN panel monitor in mid 2024

[@mkatakm]

Perhaps I am a pro too.

[@johanliebert3119]

hahahahahahah my god..... I´m fine with my 65 inch 120hz 4k OLED TV. tnks! (y)

[@griffin1366]

ok boomer

[@mttrashcan-bg1ro]

I'm a firm believer that the majority of gamers are completely clueless as to what genuinely makes them more competitive and gives them the advantage. Most people are under the impression higher refreshrate is always better, but panel type proves that to be false. I've heard a lot of competitive gamers say 24 inch screens is by far the best and 27 or 32 inch is too big, but I've found it so much easier to play games on my 32 inch than my old 27 inch. Resolution is also underrated, in games like Battlefield, Warzone or PUBG, the 4k will likely be a lot more useful than 240hz or better. It's game dependent as well as personal preference. Try sniping on a Battlefield game on a 24 inch 1080p then try a 32 inch 4k and tell me the 1080p panel is easier.

[@xythiera7255]

Higher refrashrate is better but as high you get that lower the return becomes . If you say higher refresh is not better you are wrong when we talk about competitve games . 😂 there is no way you run 240 or 360hz in 4k you even speaking about 4k shows you arnt realy competitve . 4k is a mem in general for peopl that have no clue or are consule peopl

[@osku388]

Brother the games you play are barely competitive

[@w04h]

Pro's still use 400dpi like cavemen from 1990's. They don't think when buying this stuff, they just copy older pro players.

[@LoreSquidd]

Good luck buying 1400-1600 Oled monitor for PRO play, where you will be playing 1 damn game for 8-14 hours straight and not expecting it to get permanent burn, or you want to tell me that Burn in for such conditions is already a thing of the past?

[@lbgstzockt8493]

Does burn in really matter when you literally only do that one thing?

[@thomasboob]

burn in is a thing in the past, show me any burn in from the new gen oleds? there are many things to prevent burn in in huds and things

[@LoreSquidd]

@@lbgstzockt8493 by "do that one thing" you mean like playing only one game? Yeah maybe it wont matter that much cuz the burn in spots will match the UI of the game, but personally i play alot, like ALOT of League of Legends, but even if i do that i still want to watch tv show, youtube or play some single player game every now and than and seeing the UI of League will be killing me. that's why i for the time being using only MiniLed Based VA monitor and similar TV

[@calmsh0t]

goes completely towards what I always say ... STOP LISTENING TO PROS REGARDING ANYTHING THAT ISN'T DIRECTLY TIED TO THEIR GAME. pros have NO idea when it comes to mice, mousepads, monitors, hardware etc. ... they use what they have on torunaments, what their sponsors are giving them or what simply worked for them at some point. could they even improve further with personalized hardware? certainly. but it just didn't enter their bubble yet how important personalized peripherals are and you could argue that they play well enough with what they have.

[@iceynagisa6197]

Sag doch direkt das du deutsch bist

[@ana303_]

you dont need anything over 180Hz

[@ea02ca6f]

downvoted for thumbnail

[@Milkovichultear97]

r/ihavereddit

[@Jumbob]

I have been saying for so long that pros dont know what actually best for gaming. Pros do know whats good but theres almost always better products available. If you ask about their mouse, they usually just say my friend uses it, logitech is best or that my team made me use it. And if you ask about the mouses specs they just say: it has 4k polling, 30k dpi and its logitech = it must mean its the best mouse out there, and usually they say the shape is best for them. Same thing with mousepads, monitors, headsets and keyboards. They would need to do way to more research about mouses and other tech to know whats really the best. You cant just search the best gaming mouse 2024. It gives terrible videos. Usually top 5 gaming mouses 2024 and in the video there apple magic mouse. And still they are gonna trust that video.

[@DrakonR]

There is nothing athletic about esports.

[@Eazer_Monarch]

So? There is nothing athletic about chess either (chess is recognised as a sport by the international Olympics committee)

[@DrakonR]

@@Eazer_Monarch do you believe I would argue otherwise? Of course not.

[@Eazer_Monarch]

@DrakonR alright, im just saying that going off of that, not all sports have to be physically demanding, some like chess, or in this chase esports are mentally demanding

[@DrakonR]

@@Eazer_Monarch you have no point to make when I'm logically consistent. At no point are you going to convince me otherwise. eSports aren't even mentally demanding and I'm not going to pretend they are. Apparently it hit a nerve speaking down to eSports since you're only commenting in defense. Good luck with that.

[@Eazer_Monarch]

@@DrakonR how do you know if esports are mentally demanding or not ?