Don't Ignore This When Hitting Protein Macros

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Greg Doucette

Greg Doucette

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@testableracer
@testableracer 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for someone talk about this. I learned about the different qualities of different types of proteins when I first started learning about nutrition when I was 15. A few years ago when I was in the army I had someone tell me that they’d never heard of protein quality, and tried to convince me that I made it up to “act like I knew what I was talking about”. Happy to know I knew this was a true thing 🙃
@ygalel
@ygalel 2 жыл бұрын
Man... Those are dudes that give the army a bad reputation in terms of intelligence.
@testableracer
@testableracer 2 жыл бұрын
@@ygalel yeah a lot of those officers in the army think just cause they went to college for basket weaving makes them smarter than everyone else 😂
@onepunch5810
@onepunch5810 2 жыл бұрын
@@testableracer basket weaving lol
@YenLe-it2vq
@YenLe-it2vq 2 жыл бұрын
Question, is milk protein (whey & casein) complete or incomplete in amino acids?
@petaroparusic311
@petaroparusic311 2 жыл бұрын
@@YenLe-it2vq homie the best protein source in terms of amino acids is whey, its above any natural source. For example when we first started we took egg as a base for best protein and numbered it 100, and almost eberything was lower quality, until they tested whey and found it was like 103.
@gregjones7738
@gregjones7738 2 жыл бұрын
Im vegan but i cant argue with this. I eat a very wide variety of sources of protein and have never failed to notice making gains but this needs to be highlighted and at the end of the day any vegans who argue with this will just damage veganism. In a way highlighting this head on is good because now vegans can try and fix any issues 👍 i appreciate the advice and open mindedness to not just overlook the diet and say it cant work 👍
@Danuxsy
@Danuxsy 2 жыл бұрын
I wrote a great response to you explaining why this video is false but it was automatically removed lmao
@sinabashirinejad1701
@sinabashirinejad1701 2 жыл бұрын
One of the only complete vegan protein is soy protein
@sinabashirinejad1701
@sinabashirinejad1701 2 жыл бұрын
@Thor Odinson it is
@hirdy161
@hirdy161 2 жыл бұрын
Your parkour is sick mate 👍wish I could do that
@simplyfitness892
@simplyfitness892 2 жыл бұрын
@@Danuxsy 🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
@goat6inboots
@goat6inboots 2 жыл бұрын
It says a lot about Greg's audience. I expected to see lots of offended vegetarians or vegans in the comments but they are all happy to receive information that is honest and not offensive at all, even if it is not what vegetarians want to hear. It shouldn't be relevant but I do not eat meat either. Well done to Greg AND his listeners.
@gregjones7738
@gregjones7738 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely man 🙏im vegan too but i think that instead of running from any issues that present themselves we should always just face them head on and learn how to adapt if we ignore it, i suppose we would never be able to overcome it. 🙏 and fairplay to Coach Greg he has had a bit of stick of off vegans and has never turned his back on vegans once.🙏 thats a special person right there🙌
@zodd67
@zodd67 2 жыл бұрын
Well the video has been debunked by channels such as Mic the Vegan, WIL has been dishonest about other claims too (probably funded). Plants contain all the amino acids just in different degrees to animal proteins they are never incomplete, there's only one incomplete protein and that's from gelatine which is derived from animals ironically. Greg is posting this video due to confirmation bias. There's plenty of vegan lifters in great shape if gains and this marketing obsession with protein matter so much for gains you might as well go on roids because changing from plants to animal protein will make negligible difference in terms of body composition.
@goat6inboots
@goat6inboots 2 жыл бұрын
@@zodd67 Plants do contain the amino acid profile, to different degrees, but that is just a clever way of saying that it does not contain as much protein. It was far easier for me to hit protein number years ago when I was omnivorous. However, the main point of contention is actually digestibility and the likes of Huberman and other renowned professors have confirmed that. Someone disagreeing with you doesn't necessarily have confirmation bias indeed your own bias may force you to believe that their views are irrational because they do not confirm to your own researc. You also know that stating that there are vegans and vegetarians in great shape is an extremely weak argument as it neither proves nor disproves your point. Going on steroids is a completely different matter. I am in great shape and don't eat meat, but it has required far more education and effort to match my previous diet and I love the change I have made and wouldn't ever go back as it benefited me in so many other ways beyond the small sphere of simply making our bodies have muscles. Wishing you all the best with your diet and training.
@zodd67
@zodd67 2 жыл бұрын
​@@goat6inboots Huberman eats butter because he feels it's good for him, Mic the vegan made a video about him too, just because he has credentials in other things doesn't mean he knows anything about nutrition "It was far easier for me to hit protein number years ago when I was omnivorous" The protein number is exaggerated by marketing and fitness gurus, you don't need to consume silly numbers of protein everyday. Some of it's been linked to cancer due to Leucine, the one high in animal products raising IGF-1 etc "Someone disagreeing with you doesn't necessarily have confirmation bias indeed your own bias may force you to believe that their views are irrational because they do not confirm to your own researc." Let's see Greg even watch Mic's video then let's hear his counters? That ain't gonna happen since Greg would never cross reference and watch Mic's video that's the issue. If you see both sides it becomes clear which side looks much better in the science. I have a bias after listening to both sides because one is definitely better than the other but people refuse to see that side.
@goat6inboots
@goat6inboots 2 жыл бұрын
@@zodd67 I agree with you that someone having credentials in one area doesn’t necessarily mean that they are right about other things. But he spends a lot of time researching with people who do work in this area and I like his methodical approach to things. However I’ll listen to some of Mic the vegans videos as you’ve mentioned him and see if I can get alternative views. I’m sure a lot of exaggerated by the marketing industry and I know that meat will certainly kill you. However even with exaggeration I do think that meat eaters find it easier to hit normal protein numbers because you just have more choice however I haven’t had problems as I like a lot of vegetarian food and eat a vast variety. Thanks for your insight I’m always happy to hear views that contrast my own when presented in a good way like you have.
@OrtizIndustries
@OrtizIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Your comparison of primary pigment colors and primary amino acids was really good
@alibektas1680
@alibektas1680 2 жыл бұрын
finaly a video that helps been learning new stuff every day thank you coach gregg
@anunpopularstance
@anunpopularstance 2 жыл бұрын
He stole it from WIL channel. He should be ashamed.
@codyylu
@codyylu 2 жыл бұрын
wouldnt say he stole it
@alibektas1680
@alibektas1680 2 жыл бұрын
same i dont think he would steal a video idea
@bigd2829
@bigd2829 2 жыл бұрын
More instructional and positive videos like these Greg! These were the kind of vids that got me into your channel! Keep them up!!
@carteroneal8836
@carteroneal8836 2 жыл бұрын
Hey coach, thanks for this. I was vegetarian over 11 years. I recently was hospitalized with pulmonary embolisms, unrelated, but I did have a bunch of metabolic panels. I found out that I was considered malnourished, even at a healthy weight. My body just wasn’t absorbing plant based proteins. As a life long animal activist my heart was broken, but ultimately my blood tests don’t lie. I’ve since switched to animal protein over the last month and my urea nitrogen (BUN) and total protein are very slowly starting to get better.
@locozen78
@locozen78 2 жыл бұрын
💜 🙏🏽
@joelwu2254
@joelwu2254 2 жыл бұрын
Hey how do you select ethically sourced meat now?
@-bella_amy8400
@-bella_amy8400 Жыл бұрын
Just live and eat meat, our life is more important than chickens and cows
@cullenn2100
@cullenn2100 2 жыл бұрын
Recommended study to check out: "No Significant Differences in Muscle Growth and Strength Development When Consuming Soy and Whey Protein Supplements Matched for Leucine Following a 12 Week Resistance Training Program in Men and Women: A Randomized Trial" - I say this not to contradict the video but to add to it
@idano0112
@idano0112 2 жыл бұрын
Great vegan sources of protein: Vital Wheat Gluten: 80g protein per 370 calories Tofu: 20 - 35g Protein per 200 - 320 calories Soy-TVP: 50g Protein per 350 calories Nutritional yeast: 50g Protein per 370 calories Pea Crispies: 71g Protein per 400 calories Spirulina: 70g Protein per 350 Calories Edamame Beans (roasted): 43g Protein per 400 calories Mung Beans: 23g Protein per 270 calories Lupin Flakes: 42g Protein per 360 calories Soja Flocken: 41g Protein and 19g unsaturated fat per 400 calories Tempeh: 20g Protein per 200 calories Organic Pasta from the companies "Explore Cuisine" and "Just Taste" (Black Beans/Edamame/Chickpeas/Red Lentils/Green Lentils/Spirulina/…): 20 - 42g Protein per 300 - 370 calories
@michelrood2966
@michelrood2966 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, its per GRAM not calories..for example 25 grams of protein per 34gr.. Pathetic
@idano0112
@idano0112 2 жыл бұрын
@@michelrood2966 it’s all per 100g. What’s ur issue?
@idano0112
@idano0112 2 жыл бұрын
@@michelrood2966 Would u have commented "bUt hOw mAnY CaLoRiEs pEr 100g D u D E" if I put 100g instead of the calorie number there? Probably
@ygalel
@ygalel 2 жыл бұрын
@@michelrood2966 I disagree. Per Calorie makes more sense because of CICO. 100 g of water cress has no where near as much protein as beef like Ribeyes, but 100 Cal of it is actually denser in protein than most meat.
@StarforceHH
@StarforceHH 2 жыл бұрын
None as good and of high quality next to fish, beef, poultry and dairy.
@TeamYouphoric
@TeamYouphoric 2 жыл бұрын
This is something that often gets overlooked. If you're vegan, you better make sure you get a wide variety of foods if you don't want to develop deficiencies.
@pedrofelciiano12
@pedrofelciiano12 2 жыл бұрын
Same for every other person lol
@derekward3512
@derekward3512 2 жыл бұрын
You can be deficient even as a meat eater.
@TeamYouphoric
@TeamYouphoric 2 жыл бұрын
@@pedrofelciiano12 yeah, but more so with a vegan diet. A lot more potential for deficiencies if you're not careful. You need to make sure you find ways to get your Creatine, Carnitine, Choline, Carnosine, Ansarine, Taurine, B12, K2, D3, DHA, Heme Iron, EFAs, all of your EAAs... A lot more room for error.
@TeamYouphoric
@TeamYouphoric 2 жыл бұрын
@@derekward3512 I never said you couldn't be.
@jht3fougifh393
@jht3fougifh393 2 жыл бұрын
Guys, don't get defensive. It's true that limiting your diet means you need to plan better. Let's not make it personal.
@nicknedelcu
@nicknedelcu 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching gregy greg for years and he’s STILL teaching me new stuff wtf.
@kelizbethowska3368
@kelizbethowska3368 2 жыл бұрын
Haha gregy greg
@kakaibakaonlol3163
@kakaibakaonlol3163 2 жыл бұрын
@@kelizbethowska3368 (ಥ﹏ಥ)
@Zanabery
@Zanabery 2 жыл бұрын
As a vegan who eats 1g/lb of bodyweight daily, I can confirm you have to be conscious about your diet to achieve this, but it’s not all that hard. I do prioritize variety of proteins as well.
@alexbonesjones7570
@alexbonesjones7570 2 жыл бұрын
Even if you get all the amino acid building blocks to form a complete protein. You will have a tough time replicating the epigenetic signalling provided from high quality animal protein. Not to mention the fact that the unique and highly bioavailable nutrients that are found in the natural matrix of said high quality animal food work synergistically with the protein to activate/facilitate these genetic pathways. In my humble opinion, you are simply doing yourself a disservice by not including some high quality animal products in your diet.
@DeanK1905
@DeanK1905 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexbonesjones7570 any studies to back this claim?
@guts1859
@guts1859 2 жыл бұрын
Yes he can go seach for it himself but if someone makes a claim then the responsibility falls on them to support their claim with studies
@squidito2534
@squidito2534 2 жыл бұрын
@@guts1859 I don’t think KZbin commenters have any responsibility to share studies, just discuss ideas, if it interests you, you can research it.
@guts1859
@guts1859 2 жыл бұрын
@@squidito2534 You can't discuss ideas without at least some sources
@andrewp3358
@andrewp3358 2 жыл бұрын
I was vegan and it wasn’t hard to get diverse protein as a vegan but I was also well informed of options. People of all diets should do unbiased research of their diet and their goals. But do whatever the FUCK you wanna doooooooo. Greg is right 99.7% of the time
@jp2650
@jp2650 2 жыл бұрын
@Andrew P how was transitioning from vegan to whatever you are now?
@negotiv
@negotiv 2 жыл бұрын
Yeeaaahhhhh all kindz of gainzz
@davidwallace6772
@davidwallace6772 2 жыл бұрын
Very generous to share years of study, not to mention the money spent on education, to inform people who will benefit from the knowledge 💯
@anna_moruzzo
@anna_moruzzo 2 жыл бұрын
Coach! It think it would be interesting a video on gout, like going through symptoms and causes also correlated with too much protein consumption (or if this reason is just a myth).
@N1120A
@N1120A 2 жыл бұрын
Gout isn't caused by too much protein. If you ate nothing but protein from milk, your gout risk would be extremely low. Red meat carnivore/keto type? Then you're screwed.
@dadvsdiabetes4621
@dadvsdiabetes4621 2 жыл бұрын
I eat 225 grams of protein (chicken, Turkey, fish) no problems. But if I have fatty ground beef or spam or sausages then I flare up. Keeps me consistent to avoid the pain 😂
@gregdoucette
@gregdoucette 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Consuming animal Pro Tien can increase your risk of getting out for me myself Ham is really bad other people find seafood bad. Might need a prescription for allopurinol
@fai5734
@fai5734 2 жыл бұрын
Meat & fructose seem to have a similar effect on gout, some really interesting studies out there
@N1120A
@N1120A 2 жыл бұрын
@@fai5734 Fruit consumption is universally acknowledged as good for gout. Move on.
@MasterCraftX8
@MasterCraftX8 2 жыл бұрын
Greg watch Plant Chompers response video to WIL’s protein quality vid. Pretty interesting facts he points out about misleading info like the 60% of people don’t get enough protein is not the whole truth from the study. Plant Chompers has a lot of great low density food ideas that you would agree with.
@zodd67
@zodd67 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah WIL is questionable, seems like he has some bad biases. I hate it big channels like this push the myth and misinformation
@Danuxsy
@Danuxsy 2 жыл бұрын
@@zodd67 yea that channel is a product of the meat and dairy industry lmao
@andydelassus2734
@andydelassus2734 2 жыл бұрын
They should also include the cholesterol numbers when comparing, imho.
@hata6290
@hata6290 2 жыл бұрын
LMAOOOO yeah
@TheRomanticDarkness
@TheRomanticDarkness 2 жыл бұрын
Irrelevant. Most of the cholesterol in your body is produced by your body. I eat about 2 to 3 pounds of meat a day and have good cholesterol numbers because it's lean. Saturated fat increases total, Omega 3 increases HDL and lowers LDL, and soluble fiber lowers LDL. A vegan living off of junk food will have terrible cholesterol next to an athletic omnivore eating low fat and high fiber. Science more, goofy vegan cult less.
@bobbarker399
@bobbarker399 2 жыл бұрын
Well the video is about „Is protein protein?“, so I don’t really know why we should add that
@Danuxsy
@Danuxsy 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbarker399 he didn't mention the differences between animal and vegan protein like IGF-1 production, a carcinogen and all the other things you get with that protein. Also all vegan protein contain all amino acids, it is a myth that you have to combine them, that was debunked a long time ago.
@simplyfitness892
@simplyfitness892 2 жыл бұрын
@@Danuxsy wow your crying about this video all over the comment section lmao ur mad cause your diets inferior so you spam the comment section with a load of nonsense.
@maxpower1797
@maxpower1797 2 жыл бұрын
I love coming here after work to eat my dinner and learn something new everyday, thanks Greg. Never stop
@ConstantiaVerted
@ConstantiaVerted 2 жыл бұрын
The average person easily meets their basic protein requirement- especially as they are overeating. I find it hard sometimes because I don't eat much meat or fish. Interesting to hear the protein in nuts is not complete. I hadn't thought of that. Most people get the right balance of protein from te variety in their diet, because they eat a lot.
@joejoe850
@joejoe850 2 жыл бұрын
They misread the study. The average american consumes a lot of meat. If the average american is not hitting their protein goals then no one is. The study was talking about protein sources not protein quantity. In other words americans were eating enough protein quantity but the variety of sources was not there. Lifting vegan logic has done a debunk on this video you can check it out if you are interested.
@ConstantiaVerted
@ConstantiaVerted 2 жыл бұрын
@@joejoe850 Ooh do you have a link to the debunking? I looked at his channel but wasn't sure which vid it was.
@martysmith871
@martysmith871 2 жыл бұрын
Protien is responsible for tissue synthesis. Even bone. Yes, being protein deficient can stunt growth.
@hata6290
@hata6290 2 жыл бұрын
he didnt fucking deny that, and that wasnt even the point
@blaine6097
@blaine6097 2 жыл бұрын
@@hata6290 did you say something? All I heard was you gagging and choking on Greg phallus
@squidito2534
@squidito2534 2 жыл бұрын
I think an issue with vegan/vegetarian protein is the the majority of options come wrapped up in carbs, it’s hard to get something low carb and high protein
@morganmitchell4017
@morganmitchell4017 2 жыл бұрын
How is that an issue? Why do you need your protein sources to be low in carbs?
@dzlordthor
@dzlordthor 2 жыл бұрын
Been a big fan of using pea protein to supplement. (I still eat a ton of animal products) pea protein seems to keep me satiated and agrees well with my body
@thomasv5342
@thomasv5342 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, pea protein and other plant based protein (e.g. hemp) are very well absorbed by the body and make great supplements.
@ygalel
@ygalel 2 жыл бұрын
I like making muffins with pea protein and matcha powder. It's just mind-blowing.
@Madchris8828
@Madchris8828 2 жыл бұрын
It does seem to be easy on the stomach from my experience.
@dzlordthor
@dzlordthor 2 жыл бұрын
@@Madchris8828 absolutely. Whey protein makes me feel like a bloated mess.
@N1120A
@N1120A 2 жыл бұрын
Pasta with peas is a compete protein and delicious
@JZ-xu3vg
@JZ-xu3vg 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting subject, I studied 3rd world in college a bit, Beans saved the world because they include all the essential amino acids ( VERY BIG DEAL ) . They can be dried stored, made in mass and your not required to raise animals which cost way more pound for pound. Less lack of protein related disease and morbidities for the kids. Now they are cornerstone of the Spanish diet and served at almost every meal.
@farikkun1841
@farikkun1841 2 жыл бұрын
Cheap and easy nutritious food always amaze me. Society was built from it. Eating tempeh feels amazing now
@bullbou7003
@bullbou7003 2 жыл бұрын
I love beans and would eat them everyday, but my intestines don't enjoy them as much. I get windy and the colon waste isn't so solid anymore unfortunately
@zarathustra007
@zarathustra007 2 жыл бұрын
More content like this. This was awesome.
@tabitha8707
@tabitha8707 2 жыл бұрын
id love to see you react to freely the banana girl. she’s not as relevant now but she was the reason A LOT of vegan youtubers pushed raw, uncooked vegan food for years. and a lot of those youtubers are no longer vegan and blame veganism for their health issues even though it was more likely this weird super restrictive diet that says you should only eat raw fruits and veggies for optimal health🤦🏻‍♀️ like this one youtuber ate a piece of salmon one day and said her sex drive came back immediately and then concluded she lost it due to her vegan diet but I think she just didnt eat enough calories or protein to get a sex drive in years and finally did
@thomasv5342
@thomasv5342 2 жыл бұрын
The raw vegan diet is silly and these people are doing such damage to the perception of a healthy vegan plant based diet! A typical problem with these diets is low calories as you point out. And a lot of nutrients need to be cooked for the body to be able to absorb.
@thomasv5342
@thomasv5342 2 жыл бұрын
@Bingo Lol thanks for your contribution
@GRPABT1
@GRPABT1 2 жыл бұрын
Freely and her crazy ex are also drug addicted psychos.
@loganwolv3393
@loganwolv3393 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's really weird because i think raw kidney beans can actually poison you to death, so they gotta be cooked, and in general if you want to eat certain vegetables/legumes/beans i think eating them cooked makes the micronutrients more bioavalible so this could be the reason for her low sex drive right? Maybe she got zinc deficiency because the zinc in her raw beans had very bad bioavalibility.
@cooperfuller9524
@cooperfuller9524 2 жыл бұрын
Well said! Being vegan and building muscle is incredibly easy; it just takes a little bit of learning. Those that don’t go vegan are just lazy and refuse to learn, essentially saying “I don’t care that another sentient being had to suffer because of me.” Greg really should have a discussion with Brian Turner or Hench Herbivore-he’d hear what he needs to hear, not what he wants to hear!
@arvidlystnur4827
@arvidlystnur4827 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Not knocking vegetarians because I've become one, minus the possibility that I might eat egg whites and fish in the future. I assume that whatever formula one decides for intake of protein, add about twenty percent more if going vegan. It seems though that many vegetarians accuse bodybuilders of taking as much as 2 grams of protein per pound of body weight while they (generally vegetarians) recommend .3 to .5.
@tawon1984
@tawon1984 2 жыл бұрын
🥚 is the master in the protein world.
@GRPABT1
@GRPABT1 2 жыл бұрын
Whey is actually slightly better.
@numbers9696
@numbers9696 2 жыл бұрын
Nah it’s 🥩. 🥩 makes you a man
@tawon1984
@tawon1984 2 жыл бұрын
@@numbers9696 Steak is my favorite food but eggs have the highest quality protein there is next to breastmilk. With that being said, I usually have steak and eggs together 🤤💪
@numbers9696
@numbers9696 2 жыл бұрын
@@tawon1984 the manliest meal in the world. Cook that in some chicken fat
@TheCrinkledFox_theOne
@TheCrinkledFox_theOne 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Working on phasing into a vegan diet but this is an important factor I’ve been trying to ignore to reach there. Especially just going to university, cost of this varied vegan protein is definitely a challenge to consider
@jamesmcferren117
@jamesmcferren117 2 жыл бұрын
Would you consider reaching out to Hench herbivore and having him come on your channel. I think if you’re going to talk about a vegan diet and protein, it would be beneficial to talk to someone who is a vegan nutritionist and into fitness. It would be beneficial for you to have a discussion with someone who is an expert in that field
@zodd67
@zodd67 2 жыл бұрын
He won't because he seems to have a massive bias and is afraid to be proven wrong.
@sonja4164
@sonja4164 2 жыл бұрын
I think that would be great!
@joejoe850
@joejoe850 2 жыл бұрын
Greg dislikes hench they have some sort of beef
@Strivefornuance
@Strivefornuance 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video! I vaguely knew about this but thank you for highlighting it further so I may research it some more on my own. I enjoy consuming mostly animal based protein. More recently though, I have been interested in trying to incorporate more plant based sources for largely environmentally and financial reasons. I have been nervous to do so because I have worked hard for my current fitness and physique, and wanted a strategic plan that wouldn’t sacrifice my progress and future goals. It feels validating to know that my reticence wasn’t completely unfounded.
@dinocollins720
@dinocollins720 2 жыл бұрын
The primary color comparison was great!
@YouAreNotFree1
@YouAreNotFree1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Vegan but add 7g EAAs to each of my 5 meals! I have 9g protein from a quality vegan protein powder with each too! No issues with gains at all!
@zimabluecascade
@zimabluecascade 2 жыл бұрын
Jeff Nippard did a phenomenal video on protein quality recently. Only protein related video you ever need to watch
@jaydog9329
@jaydog9329 2 жыл бұрын
I used to be that guy who would eat a whole loaf of whole wheat bread with peanut butter & milk + lamb chops thinking I was getting all the 'quality' protein I needed. Shockingly enough, I actually got pretty big with this diet despite eating only 100g protein 500g carbs 200g fat. Just train like Ronnie Coleman and the calories become utilized effectively.
@MotoguyX5
@MotoguyX5 2 жыл бұрын
Unless at a very high level or someone is really jus not eating much protein, I think macros are a bit overrated. I’ve made decent gains and by extension a good physique on high protein, moderate protein, high carb and low carb. It doesn’t seem to make much of a difference unless I go to low on protein “less than 80grams a day and mostly all plant based”
@jonr4779
@jonr4779 2 жыл бұрын
100g of protein is plenty, especially if you're in a caloric surplus.
@Rgm4n
@Rgm4n 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly summarized, loud and clear. Thumbs up
@jamesowens3921
@jamesowens3921 2 жыл бұрын
Im vegan and its not hard to get protein as a vegan. Still getting stronger just fine.
@RetroR0bbie
@RetroR0bbie 2 жыл бұрын
Such great information. I am learning more and more from your channel. Thanks Greg.
@nunosilva187
@nunosilva187 Жыл бұрын
0:25 well, some "protein" as shown in some equipments is just some measure of nitrates that aren't actually usable as aminoacids by the human body. This usually happens when food is ultra processed, for example, in the case of bread where first the wheat is ground and then blanched and then baked, causing the original aminoacids in the wheat berry to degrade and not provide as much nutrition
@bestgirl3380
@bestgirl3380 2 жыл бұрын
Greg, you keep dieting interesting with your consistent dietary dissertations ☺️☺️🥳
@MyNameIsUnavailable
@MyNameIsUnavailable Жыл бұрын
Greg is LITERALLY the first guy to state .8 g/Kg or .36 g/lb, not just rinse and repeat 1g/lb for minimum requirements. 💯
@RandomUserAct
@RandomUserAct 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your informative videos 🔥
@jevonyethman8045
@jevonyethman8045 2 жыл бұрын
Coach Greg aka THE CONTRIDICTOR
@runforrestrun6103
@runforrestrun6103 2 жыл бұрын
Good subject. I have Coach Greg's Vegan Cookbook to cut down on meat consumption. So I concentrate on vegan sources of protein in the cookbook and protein powder. I eat salmon and cod. Every couple of weeks I have a meat source. So the vegan sources of protein represent 75% by calorie count.
@gregdoucette
@gregdoucette 2 жыл бұрын
Thats great
@runforrestrun6103
@runforrestrun6103 2 жыл бұрын
@Lyn Forge Foods with high cholesterol and saturated fat need to be eaten in moderation for health reasons. Anyone that thinks that it is optimal to have a diet based mainly on high meat consumption is deluding themselves. For body building it works. For long term heart health it doesn't. You can high dose on fatty meat and dairy and do little or no cardio and you will look great in your short life. "Red meat, fried foods, and baked goods are notorious for raising levels of low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol, the sticky kind that builds up in artery walls."
@alexgiomuelgonzalez2523
@alexgiomuelgonzalez2523 2 жыл бұрын
P
@jimiannelli3089
@jimiannelli3089 2 жыл бұрын
Another informative video from Coach. Very good stuff.
@_markblaze
@_markblaze Күн бұрын
Biological value of protein is what it was called to me when learning this. My understanding was the higher the number, the better the breakdown and absorption. Bc soy was so low, you would have to eat so much more.
@gregharris2679
@gregharris2679 2 жыл бұрын
I notice when I don't hit my protein intake. I feel it when I workout.
@ven4762
@ven4762 2 жыл бұрын
No shit sherlock
@AndyPresto75
@AndyPresto75 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual coach and the Layne Norton clip was an appropriate mic drop.
@DarrylJohnsonIsWrong
@DarrylJohnsonIsWrong 2 жыл бұрын
🥚 protein provides additional nutrients beyond protein.
@kakaibakaonlol3163
@kakaibakaonlol3163 2 жыл бұрын
kidney?
@DarrylJohnsonIsWrong
@DarrylJohnsonIsWrong 2 жыл бұрын
@@kakaibakaonlol3163You have a kidney good job 👏 👍 👌 🙌
@kakaibakaonlol3163
@kakaibakaonlol3163 2 жыл бұрын
i mean liver not kidney 😆
@kakaibakaonlol3163
@kakaibakaonlol3163 2 жыл бұрын
liver has more protein more amino acids and more vitamins than eggs
@tbhc415
@tbhc415 Жыл бұрын
i think nowadays, most people overthink about what type of exercises, Source of protein, what to eat pre and post, what supplements to have, what quality of protein powder, creatine etc etc . as long as enough protein and macros your body needs a day is going into your body, everything is fine. people really need to stop overthinking abt lots of stuff, as long as your exercising regularly, working out and eating enough macros your perfectly fine
@chasewb
@chasewb Жыл бұрын
Thanks coach Greg, I literally had no idea about this at all. Just never occurred to me
@victoriagilarranz6804
@victoriagilarranz6804 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up on a vegetarian diet and never got enough protein. The difference in how I feel and perform in the gym now that it's over is insane. Like, "oh I don't have terrible genetics after all" insane. Also, I'm shorter than both my parents.
@slimbrady6004
@slimbrady6004 Жыл бұрын
Meat based diet ftw. My mom is vegan (except cheese) and she was very unhealthy until I got her on the proper supplements. I bought her creatine, choline, activated Bs, d3, spirulina, and pea protein. She feels a lot better now!
@gaznann6503
@gaznann6503 2 жыл бұрын
It also depends on how you digest protein because if you have stomach problems not enough stomach acid it's harder to digest
@starrebornalpha
@starrebornalpha 2 жыл бұрын
Vitamin B1 and a bit of magnesium.
@johnbrown2030
@johnbrown2030 2 жыл бұрын
I was literally thinking of the Layne Norton response video half way thru this one haha the coach knows his stuff!!
@zylonchar
@zylonchar 2 жыл бұрын
Been vegan for 9 years and definitely familiar with this. I try to eat a large variety of proteins every day. Soy based, lentils, rice, seitan, quinoa, beans and bean protein products, leafy greens, hemp.. mix and match all that. Plus ofc protein shakes and EAA:s for breakfast. Try keeping my intake around 180g (I am about 100kg myself).
@Danuxsy
@Danuxsy 2 жыл бұрын
it's a myth, all vegan protein contain all amino acids, you don't have to combine them.
@zylonchar
@zylonchar 2 жыл бұрын
@@Danuxsy I mean ofc they do but the amount they contain each aminoacids vary and you may not get enough some. For example Soy I do believe has a "complete" AA profile while as lentils are lacking in some parts etc.
@Danuxsy
@Danuxsy 2 жыл бұрын
@@zylonchar lentils are not lacking in any amino acid.
@zylonchar
@zylonchar 2 жыл бұрын
@@Danuxsy absolutely right. They do have it all but just maybe not enough of it to provide you with the needed amounts. That is why you diversify. And why say Vegan Protein Blends are good because they are tailored so that the user will have enough all amino acids.
@JohnDoe-fk7bv
@JohnDoe-fk7bv 2 жыл бұрын
I watch this video a while ago and i was waiting for a Greg response
@INTJames
@INTJames 2 жыл бұрын
Soy has all 9 essential amino acids, is a complete protein and has a high diaas score
@Dontatmebr0
@Dontatmebr0 2 жыл бұрын
Soy raises estrogen and is by far the worst form of protein.
@jassa2160
@jassa2160 2 жыл бұрын
Soy boy
@INTJames
@INTJames 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dontatmebr0 interesting, it's been my main source, eat about 210 grams of soy protein per day, get my blood panel every few months and my estrogen is never raised, suppose I don't exist then
@Danuxsy
@Danuxsy 2 жыл бұрын
@@jassa2160 Beer increase estrogen, it contains hops lmao
@oggabob
@oggabob 2 жыл бұрын
@T S while soy has phytoestrogens which have no effect on the body, cow’s milk contains mammalian estrogen which actually can increase your estrogen level.
@Mephistopheles791
@Mephistopheles791 2 жыл бұрын
Finally an informational video instead of the normal hs drama videos he’s been doing. Excellent!
@Wetterwet
@Wetterwet 2 жыл бұрын
Lucine, isoleucine and valine are the amino acids you want to focus one, especially vegans !
@saiancantin7667
@saiancantin7667 2 жыл бұрын
I think greg is such a good teacher because he nails vulgarisation. He makes complicated stuff easy to understand👌
@JohnA...
@JohnA... 2 жыл бұрын
You also might be getting the same amount of protein but aren't getting the same amount of calories. It takes so much more to get the same amount of protein in non-meat sources as it does in meat sources, to get the recommended daily protein you are almost certainly going to have to over eat if you aren't getting it from meat.
@charliekp6534
@charliekp6534 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is an important message to get out there, especially for vegetarians and vegans. However a number of researchers have delved into that video by What I've Learned and found that he didn't look into/ misrepresented to data considerably in a number of cases. I still think it's very important - especially for vegans and vegetarians, even moreso if they're exercising heavily and trying to build muscle - to be mindful of their protein intake, but the bottom line is it's very difficult on a modern diet not to meet protein requirements.
@sdtngo
@sdtngo 2 жыл бұрын
i think this is one of coach greg’s best videos. thank you, as always, coach!
@sanjogh777
@sanjogh777 2 жыл бұрын
Learned something new. Thanks Greg.
@TypicallyUniqueOfficial
@TypicallyUniqueOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I only count my protein from whole sources. If I eat other proteins that add above my goal (1g per lb) then cool it's a bonus. But I get no less than 1g per lb from whole sources, and I don't count bread, rice, beans etc etc. This is also why I don't eat raw egg whites (some people add pasterized egg whites to their uncooked shakes) and the bioavailability of raw egg whites is horrendously low (50% bioavailability compared to 90+% cooked egg whites).
@AliyahDayeVocals
@AliyahDayeVocals 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Shout out to the clipped video by What I've Learned, I just watched it last month. Love your added commentary and clarification.
@josephgregormayer3386
@josephgregormayer3386 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great advice, Coach Greg.
@Josh-py9rq
@Josh-py9rq Жыл бұрын
This is why I eat a healthy diet mixing of both veggies and meat and yes love fruit too 😎🙌
@maljohnson2660
@maljohnson2660 2 жыл бұрын
Red, green and blue Greg!
@bw6078
@bw6078 2 жыл бұрын
Coach Greg explaining it better than last time
@edkruzel
@edkruzel 2 жыл бұрын
Coach, you should talk about GMO's like "franken-wheat".
@karimdamerji7011
@karimdamerji7011 2 жыл бұрын
Coach Greg can you please do a video if the Buff dudes are natty or not ? you're the only honest fitness influencer I know.
@jevonyethman8045
@jevonyethman8045 2 жыл бұрын
But truth spoken
@abdielrubio5918
@abdielrubio5918 2 жыл бұрын
Growth hormones added to the chicken and beef in developed countries make the population grow taller and bigger too, together with all the other health problems like cancer. I grew up in cuba and saw this first hand, our food was more natural and although the average height is 5.6ft we have plenty of 6ft tall plus guys there but this is 100% due to genetics. Here in the USA allot of first generation immigrants families with natural heights have kids that grow much taller than their genetics would’ve allowed in their country of origin.
@ydonnay3145
@ydonnay3145 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. The quality of protein. 👍
@johnyboomboomchsloth-o1414
@johnyboomboomchsloth-o1414 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU DOCTOR!!!
@Teesukisuki
@Teesukisuki 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I never knew I needed to hear this.
@bilbobaginutopi2284
@bilbobaginutopi2284 Жыл бұрын
This is the same concept of rice giving more carbs compared to lawn clippings. Your body can't digest the cellulose of these lawn clippings (which is made of many glucose molecules) while you can from rice.
@Trefalas
@Trefalas 2 жыл бұрын
When I grew 6'5 I was playing videogames and mostly ate kelloggs morning and lunchbreak. Also lot's of alcohol on the weekends. When my mate grew 6'3 he did mostly the exact same beside adding a ton of choclate
@unpopularopinion149
@unpopularopinion149 2 жыл бұрын
Egg whites Chicken Salmon Fat free milk Non fat Greek yogurt Protein bars Protein fiber wraps And so on…lower calorie proteins from higher quality protein sources. I could never be vegan..I do eat plenty of fruits and veggies with each meal.
@housetechnotrance2336
@housetechnotrance2336 11 ай бұрын
I’m not vegan, but I drink vegan protein powder because I breakout with cystic acne when I regularly incorporate whey in my diet. I haven’t incorporated dairy into my diet regularly in 6 years. I can eat ice cream on pizza on the weekend just fine as a treat, but not dairy as an actual part of my diet.
@lowrisklindsay
@lowrisklindsay Жыл бұрын
This video illustrates why I’m not vegetarian. I would rather be vegetarian, I have a strong preference for vegetarian meals taste-wise (maybe a little morality-wise)… but the high quality protein struggle is real. So, I make a conscious effort to do the chicken and the eggs and choose the right fish sources to hit the minimum requirement for my fitness goals when I’d rather have a bowl of rice or pasta.
@ordnas5693
@ordnas5693 2 жыл бұрын
The Video from 'What i've learned' has been debunked so many times and many things me says in the video are simply wrong, for example that 40% of americans don't eat enough protein. The guy doesn't read his own sources.
@whatisonyouanme89
@whatisonyouanme89 Жыл бұрын
Added in hemp protein to change it up. Read its well digestive. And it has complete amino acid.
@Kordon87
@Kordon87 2 жыл бұрын
Based.
@discobites
@discobites 2 жыл бұрын
In the Wilks vs Kresser debate on Joe Rogan, it was explained that the DIAAS scoring system is only really relevant in underdeveloped countries where people aren’t getting enough calories in general, let alone protein. They should prioritize sources with a higher score. But if you’re generally well-fed and getting enough calories/protein, the “quality” of the protein isn’t going to make much difference, if any at all
@hata6290
@hata6290 2 жыл бұрын
yep. also i really dont like how high that recommendation for protein was
@liammarshall-butler3384
@liammarshall-butler3384 2 жыл бұрын
It's still true that vegans should try to eat from a variety of foods, even if the DIAAS scoring system isn't a relevant metric. There are a lot of videos where unnatural vegan shows in vegan what I ate in a day videos, that they don't get the ideal amount of all essential amino acids.
@discobites
@discobites 2 жыл бұрын
@@liammarshall-butler3384 yeah that’s kind of true for everyone. You should incorporate a variety of foods into your diet. People who are fixated on only eating a small number of foods over and over again probably are dealing with an ED like Orthorexia. I’d say most people try eating a wide variety of foods
@ghostalexc
@ghostalexc 2 жыл бұрын
Also 20grams of protein from chicken has less calories than 20grams of protein from beans or lentils. The beans and lentils carry calories from the carbs while chicken has almost none.
@anabolicamaranth7140
@anabolicamaranth7140 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why Americans are so fat, they eat too many lentils.
@NancyThecheerfulheart
@NancyThecheerfulheart 2 жыл бұрын
I was just wondering about this topic. The for the great info
@FrugalMamma
@FrugalMamma 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I love watching your videos 💞💞💞💞💞
@darbieluce146
@darbieluce146 2 жыл бұрын
Very informational!
@bigpicturegains
@bigpicturegains 2 жыл бұрын
Quality of protein matters, just like quality of carbs and fats. Candy vs. rice Extra virgin olive oil vs. Vegetable oil Etc…
@betteroffoutdoors6
@betteroffoutdoors6 2 жыл бұрын
Avocado and coconut oils are far too overlooked
@bigpicturegains
@bigpicturegains 2 жыл бұрын
@@betteroffoutdoors6 I include ghee, avocado oil, coconut oil and extra virgin olive oil into my diet on a regular basis.
@stephenferguson6363
@stephenferguson6363 Жыл бұрын
I'm a mountain hunter mainly hunt mountain goats,sheep,elk and the odd moose im just starting to get into body building I easily eat 125-180 grams of protien per day at a bare minimum some days I hit 250-300 protien I got 2-3 freezers full of meat wich deplete it's seltzer into the summer if I ever run low I go buy bison
@cheliospanama9786
@cheliospanama9786 2 жыл бұрын
For the algorithm 🤓🥳💪👏🤙🤔😎
@nunez3142
@nunez3142 2 жыл бұрын
This video was a good one 👌🏽
@Kureiji-Desu
@Kureiji-Desu 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I watched this video. I thought it was all in my head that when I ate more eggs I felt better and stronger.
@donwinston
@donwinston 2 жыл бұрын
You are having delusions.
@marshmallowmann20
@marshmallowmann20 2 жыл бұрын
eggs have a digestibility score of 1 (like milk) . lentils are literally half of that. you gotta eat twice as much of lentil protein to get the same results
@deavman
@deavman 2 жыл бұрын
I guess I must be different. I have been eating no animal-based foods for 40 years now, and never felt it hard to stay strong and build strong bones and muscles. I am now 62, at 10-12% body fat and still pulling 550lbs DL's. I pretty much ignore the amino acid ratios as I consume a varied diet of whole foods and never felt a need to change that with powders of other concentrates(tofu, seitan, etc).
@zodd67
@zodd67 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly this video is just confirmation bias on Greg's part IMO. I don't supplement and am vegan for 2 years now and nothing changed in terms or strength or body composition I just feel better. Plants contain all the amino acids in their protein it's just to varying degrees.
@AresCosmos
@AresCosmos 2 жыл бұрын
noffense but ur video shows u not big,strong yea
@deavman
@deavman 2 жыл бұрын
@@AresCosmos I am not into big muscle as much as I am into heath and strength, but yeah. Better be just above average no using anything messing up your hormonal balance, than being very big, sometimes, and not really other times, eventually getting old and struggling because of health issues. I have been 10lbs for the last 30 yrs, at 8-12%. Works for me.
@ghostalexc
@ghostalexc 2 жыл бұрын
I tried to explain to a Vegan that not all proteins digest the same and the absorption of plant protein is less in the digestive track than animal protein. And that’s y we eat animals. Animals like cows have to proper digestive track to absorb almost all of the protein from plants while we do not, but we have the digestive tract to properly digest and absorb all of the protein from meat.
@Divinia93
@Divinia93 2 жыл бұрын
Pastured eggs Wild salmon Grass finished steak These are my main sources of protein and I feel great. I eat 150g - 160g of protein daily easily. I’ve noticed such a big difference too since I lift heavy and I’m 5’10”. Do what you can to invest in your health and your body will thank you 💕
@KrucialTempest
@KrucialTempest 2 жыл бұрын
agreed good stuff i eat 220+
@Danuxsy
@Danuxsy 2 жыл бұрын
animal protein promote IGF-1 a carcinogen.
@jafyl2705
@jafyl2705 2 жыл бұрын
I'd cut out the steak, since it has a lot of saturated fats and cholesterol, but it's good that it's grass finished and not processed. Or atleast don't eat it every single day :)
@potatowaffle5653
@potatowaffle5653 2 жыл бұрын
@@jafyl2705 you can buy lean or use 3% fat steak mince 👍
@xXAlmdudlerXx
@xXAlmdudlerXx 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be healthier to prefer chicken and only occasionally have red meat?
@wobbers99
@wobbers99 2 жыл бұрын
Roe is underrated. it's easy and high quality.
@6ismus384
@6ismus384 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video coach greg. More advice for us vegans is always welcome!
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