Don't ignore your water heater...

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@MRANDERSON70
@MRANDERSON70 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if anybody’s mentioned it to you yet or not, but the Bradford white water heaters do have anode rods. With the gas models, they are under the hot water nipple. What was left of the rod is the skinny stick you picked up from the bottom after opening the tank
@valazuniga
@valazuniga Жыл бұрын
I was going to mention the same thing about the anode rod, or what was left of it. 😅
@gardenpondfishgreenhouse573
@gardenpondfishgreenhouse573 Жыл бұрын
@@valazuniga I was going to mention that too, anybody else thinking of mentioning that? Please chime in here, It's real important that we hear from everybody and show everybody that if the original poster had not beat us, we would of said the same thing.
@jim.h
@jim.h Жыл бұрын
Same here.
@mondavou9408
@mondavou9408 11 ай бұрын
Yep. I wonder how long the water heater would have kept going if he kept up with the maintenance and replaced the rod like he should have?
@alert_xss
@alert_xss 11 ай бұрын
@@gardenpondfishgreenhouse573I was going to mention the same thing but then I saw your post so I decided not to.
@KurtOmodt
@KurtOmodt Жыл бұрын
Having been a plumber for 40 years, I can say that I've never cut open a water heater or expansion tank. Cool to see. The expansion tank is steel and should not be connected directly to the copper. It's a good idea to add a valve for servicing the tank, which also serves as a dielectric to prevent electrolysis. Always a good idea to use teflon tape and pipe dope on threaded connections. Make sure to wrap the teflon in the same direction as the pipe turns when tightened.
@twolfe4295
@twolfe4295 11 ай бұрын
x tank connected to copper is not an issue. adding a valve is not a good idea as someone could turn it off rendering it useless. definately use tape and dope both. jmo
@brianlancaster3709
@brianlancaster3709 Жыл бұрын
Hi there! I'm a long time employee of Bradford White. Judging by the model and year of production, there's a good chance I handled a part of that heaters production. It was cool to see the inside of one that's been in the field that long. Anyways, love the content and keep up the great work!
@some0ne8
@some0ne8 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad he got this install in as practice, you know, for when he replaces that POS Rheem with another BW in 6 months to a year. Thanks for making an awesome product, glad you folks still take pride in your work. Bradford White is the gold standard.
@raybrown1779
@raybrown1779 Жыл бұрын
@@some0ne8 Here in Australia, Rheem is the goto HWS of choice, normal to get 20yrs plus life out of them and a lot are still going 30+ yrs. Our plumbing is a lot less convoluted to yours, cold inblet bottom, hot outlet top. Tthe PRV also acts as the primary expansion relief valve so you know its always working properly
@MRrwmac
@MRrwmac Жыл бұрын
Brian, why was there no anode rod in his? Have HW heater manufacturers found a different way around the problem?
@brianlancaster3709
@brianlancaster3709 Жыл бұрын
@some0ne8 I appreciate you saying that about our products! I watch this channel because I enjoy the DIY world, unfortunately BW heaters can't be accessed by mos DIY people.
@jameskitzmann6268
@jameskitzmann6268 Жыл бұрын
@@MRrwmac The metal stick he was hold was part of the rod. They last about 6 years and then will have the rod completly exposed and it rusts away.
@normanwitzler9665
@normanwitzler9665 Жыл бұрын
Adding a powered anode rod when you install your new water heater is a very good investment. The one I have is called "Corro Protec". The reason your tank rusts and leaks is that the anode rod was never replaced. Also, dielectric nipples need to be installed. You can get over 30 years of use out of a water heater with minimal care.
@fakehandle666
@fakehandle666 11 ай бұрын
Every modern tank style heater comes with dielectric nipples pre-installed
@MrCbell57
@MrCbell57 Жыл бұрын
As a maintenance man I’ve installed hundreds of these. Ive also seen hundreds working fine and sitting at over 20 years of age. Most People don’t go with the ten year average. They work em til they start leaking. A lot of issues start with how bad the water minerals are. Water is corrosive and a terrible match for raw metal. The two nEver get along. Expansion valves are more for water knocking in pipes from the water being turned on and off then heat Expansion. It does work for expansion but really no one has these valves unless they’ve had water Knock in pipes is present. Normally water tanks have issues not because of sediment. But due to poor quality of water from plant. And age. If anode rod is doing it’s job it keeps the tank clean. Anode Rods can last a good ten years. Not just 3 or 4 as you suggest. Depends on the water. It’s the corrosiveness of the water that damages water heaters. That and failed temperature and pressure relief Valves. As well as the fill tube being eaten away due to them being plastic. When that breaks down the cold water is no longer sent to the bottom of tank which allows already heated water to evacuate first. And once you lose your anode rod your tank is left unprotected. Great video and you’ve done your home work. People need to learn these things so they can understand how they work. The Chances of one of these actually blowing up is about .0001 percent. It’s why they have built in safety features. Pipe dope is great and what should be used but you just didn’t tighten these fittings enough. They need to be extremely tight. About 100 foot pounds. All in all you presented this video well. And hopefully it helps others understand that they themselves can replace these without paying a plumber company $1000 to $1500 for a new one. Good job!
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I also think most water heaters can go well past 12 years (like this one). Must be Big Water Heater driving the 8-12 year narrative 😂😂
@ellenka22
@ellenka22 Жыл бұрын
I do most of the work on my home. I’d love to replace the water heater myself. Between this awesome video and your detailed comment, I feel more confident. Thank you!
@PeterHernandez-lg2eh
@PeterHernandez-lg2eh Жыл бұрын
I recently replaced my gas water heater. Rusted out at the bottom and flooded the basement floor. Used pex to reconnect. Diyer with lots of KZbin video watching
@JerryDerGlatzkopf
@JerryDerGlatzkopf Жыл бұрын
Hey fellow plumber. Im from germany and agree with you but not for two points: -The Anode should be checked yearly, most of them last about 5 years some up to 7 or 8 years but thats in germany maybe its different in the US -I dont think that untrained persons should work with gas pipes. thats extremely dangerous if not done right and youtube is not the best place for some things like this. in germany training lasts 3.5 years for this job and after that you learn even more in the real world without someone checking after you.
@drippingwax
@drippingwax Жыл бұрын
Mom just celebrated 20 years in this house and each water heater has failed after about 5 years. I read about replacing the anode, but this doesn't seem more important than everything else on my list (before I was accepted into grad school), so I am hoping it can wait. I offered to replace the water heater the last time, but Mom hired a professional--who had me help him. We did not have a ramp.
@Bigfoot14000
@Bigfoot14000 Жыл бұрын
That 'barnicle' you found in the tank is probably the remains of the steel rod inside the zinc or magnesium sacrificial anode.
@teefill
@teefill Жыл бұрын
Definitely. Even though they didn't seem to give access to it at the top, it was there.
@SinSpawn9000
@SinSpawn9000 Жыл бұрын
@@teefill I was waiting for him to say that the black spot on the top turned out to be the anode after all but when he pulled the lid i didnt see a hole....
@WeBeGood06
@WeBeGood06 Жыл бұрын
The size of the anode is the size of the warranty that came with the hot water heater. Replace the anode regularly will replace your warranty as the tank will not rust out.
@tomnorman5461
@tomnorman5461 Жыл бұрын
7:00 Someone has probably already mentioned this (I haven't read all the comments) but the FIRST thing you should do is turn your gas control to "Pilot" or "off" BEFORE draining the tank.
@50sKid
@50sKid 11 ай бұрын
Kind of bizarre how the previous plumber installed the old one by tightening those threaded adapters on first and then soldering them onto the copper lines. I would not have put it back the same way, especially with all those crazy joints. I would have sweated some male ends on to the pipes and then used flexible braided steel lines to connect to the water heater -- exactly like the kind you held up briefly during the video -- although I think you were referring to a shark bite version. They make a version with regular threaded ends on both sides. This makes changing water heaters in the future MUCH easier. I know your new heater was taller but you could have redone the way the pressure reducer was sticking out from the wall like that, maybe pop in a right angle and then go up and reposition it higher so that your ends were in the right place. Also, you could have shortened the metal platform.
@russjohnson6396
@russjohnson6396 Жыл бұрын
Another suggestion: when I replaced my water heater I installed an automatic shutoff valve at the cold water inlet. A sensor actuates the valve if it detects water on the floor (or in the drip pan, in my case).
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat Жыл бұрын
excellent idea
@dougsnavely847
@dougsnavely847 Жыл бұрын
What brand/model did you use? I’ve been looking at that very idea…. Thanks
@disjustice
@disjustice 10 ай бұрын
@@dougsnavely847I used a brand called flood stop on mine.
@colinnicol9447
@colinnicol9447 Жыл бұрын
Here in the UK we stopped installing these heaters about 20 years ago for a couple of reasons. Firstly gas is expensive here and their efficiency rating is about 50-60%. Due to the burner set up being linear.Secondly they are open flued having a draught diverter, they take the combustion air directly from the room they are installed. And if you inadvertently cause a negative situation you can reverse the flue gases back through the draught diverter into the room which can be Co (carbon monoxide). We only fit room sealed appliances now with an average of 90-96% efficiency. All our pressurised appliance must have a 3 tier level of control. Ie thermostat, high limit stat and pressure/heat release valve (PRV).
@shawnjackson4404
@shawnjackson4404 Жыл бұрын
That thing you found in the tank was part of the anode rod. Being a plumber in south Texas we have a hard water issues and the anode rod will last about 1.5 years
@josephkrug8579
@josephkrug8579 Жыл бұрын
I think the 'funky barnacle' was the remains of the hot water tank anode rod. That is in there to keep the tank from rusting, so with yours falling apart, that may be why the tank finally corroded.
@rickcimino5483
@rickcimino5483 Жыл бұрын
oddly, he said in the video he didn't have one!
@josephkrug8579
@josephkrug8579 Жыл бұрын
@@rickcimino5483 maybe due to it totally corroding
@topc5826
@topc5826 Жыл бұрын
Bradford White Water heater doed have an anode rod it slides down into the tank below the the hot water outlet. They use a combination anode rod hot water outlet. you disconnect the hot water output and unscrew the combination hot water outlet tube and anode rod. Let's not forget about the dip tube for the cold water that can be replaced at the same time you're doing the anode rod replacement. If you notice you don't have a lot of hot water that's because the dip tube has deteriorated and the cold fill water is not reaching the bottom
@beakthegreat
@beakthegreat Жыл бұрын
The rod is connected to the hot water nipple.
@alexistaylor969
@alexistaylor969 10 ай бұрын
A water heater will last indefinitely if you do yearly maintenance and cleaning. Parents' water heater is from before I was born and still looks brand new inside. Every year dad will drain out the massive amounts of calcium and then was out the bottom with a hose and shopvac. The heating elements are cleaned or changed as needed as well as the sacrificial node.
@Zanthum
@Zanthum Жыл бұрын
The air pressure in the expansion tank will always be the same as your water pressure. To check it you have to depressurize your water lines. Turn off the water to your entire house, open a faucet, then take your reading. It works the same as and is nearly identical to a pressure tank on a well, just smaller, and that is the procedure for checking them. Well pressure tank air pressure should be set to 2 psi below the cut in pressure on your well pump so a 20/40 psi well pump cycle should have the pressure tank pressurized to 18psi with no water pressure in the lines. I assume the expansion tank should be set similarly.
@brucelee3388
@brucelee3388 Жыл бұрын
Old hot water heaters had a sheet metal pan that they sat on, the pan had a pipe that ran out of the building so if anything went wrong the water just ran outside. I have a gravity feed heater in the roof that has been working for over 50 years now, only thing that has needed attention is once the float valve stuck closed so eventually the tank ran dry rather than overflowing. If i had to get a mains pressure tank I'd keep the pan (maybe fiberglass the inside of the pan) and put a metal or plastic shroud around the tank to direct any leaks or water spray into the pan to flow outside.
@michaelamos75
@michaelamos75 Жыл бұрын
Always use tape and pipe dope. Every diyer should replace a hot water heater and toliet at least once. I kept my hot water heater going for 20 years with just a little TLC and replacing the thermal coupler a few times. When hooking up the gas line, always put some soapy water on the connector and look for any bubbles to appear. It's a good cheap way to assure there is not a gas leak.
@ibtarnine
@ibtarnine Жыл бұрын
Yeah, these aren't difficult jobs, and you can basically make gas connections foolproof with a combination of gas-rated (usually yellow) plumbers tape followed by pipe dope. Many plumbers will use one or the other to save time, and maybe that's fine since they're professionals, but as a DIY'er, just do both to be safe!
@lcagee
@lcagee 11 ай бұрын
Oatley makes an all purpose leak detector. Ive read that soapy water may cause rust. Not sure if this is true.
@derekturner3272
@derekturner3272 Жыл бұрын
I opened one that had been on well water for 15 years. It was 60+% full of solid white lime. Could not believe how much and just how THICK it was. Crazy things we neglect. One neat thing was the chunks that had apparently grown on the electric heating element. As the heat cycles, they expand and contract and all off, accumulating down at the bottom. It must have had 15" deep of white rocks on the bottom. Blekt!
@lcagee
@lcagee 11 ай бұрын
I bet mine looks like that inside. Well water. High lime. My WH is a BW and i just discovered it is 40 years old. When heating, you can hear cracking noise inside.
@tragsifarin9505
@tragsifarin9505 Жыл бұрын
I would suggest a dielectric union for the copper to steel connection. Will help stop corrosion and make it easier to connect/disconect.
@steveurbach3093
@steveurbach3093 Жыл бұрын
If you use those, be sure to electrically 'Bond' the hot to cold (and even the Gas) with #10 - #8 copper wire,just in case someone 'grounded' to the wrong pipe elsewhere.
@bradmaas6875
@bradmaas6875 Жыл бұрын
Expansion tank pressure should be checked after you turn off the water and open a spigot. If the system is pressurized, it will read the highest pressure, water or air. You pressurize the tank equal to the water pressure.
@kimorvis3211
@kimorvis3211 Жыл бұрын
My tank is an Inglis Cascade 40 that was installed in 1966. The only problem we has was when our village forced us off our wells and put in a municipal well water system. The pressure was much higher than the well system and the drain valve leaked. The village later added pressure tanks and the leak stopped. I do drain it every couple of years because of our hard water. Still waiting for this tank to fail.
@craigsymington5401
@craigsymington5401 Жыл бұрын
It may be a copper tank.
@rexmckinnon
@rexmckinnon Жыл бұрын
Great video. One thing to note. It’s in your garage and certain fumes will shutoff you gas. I think the toxic fumes sensor is mandatory on new tanks. At least here in Canada it is. I was painting and my tank stopped working. There is a flashing light that gives an error code. Doing research the toxic fumes sensor was tripped and had to be replaced. About $100 later I was back up and running. I am pretty sure it was a $20 sensor but that’s what I had to pay. Anyway, check your new tank. If it has a sensor you could have issues with what you do in your garage.
@joshuayoung2643
@joshuayoung2643 Жыл бұрын
Down in Southwest LA, they put the water heaters in the attic. Could you imagine the disaster if it decides to go up there?! Great video!
@procrastinatingnerd
@procrastinatingnerd Жыл бұрын
Lol, our water heater is from 1990 and still works great. My parents have replaced theirs 3 times since their house was built in 2002. If you have a older one, might be better to just keep it working until it leaks. (unless you have it in a place where it would cause a lot of damage, ours is in the basement right next to a drain)
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat Жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely. If it's not in a place where it'll cause damage then let it go til it leaks 👍
@davidkitchen7219
@davidkitchen7219 Жыл бұрын
@Fixthisbuildthat - Thank you for this. After watching, I wondered, "how old is my tank?" It was 17 years old, so I called my guy and had a new one put in this morning. When he was taking it out, we found that it was starting to leak out the bottom...probably days (if not hours) from a gusher. Tank is on second floor, so you saved my home from some potential major damage! Thanks!
@ranger178
@ranger178 Жыл бұрын
one thing you did not mention is you can get a metal tray to put under water heater with a plastic drainpipe attachment to run water someplace where it won't destroy floors and ceilings like a floor drain or outside or something. the tanks blowing up like on MythBusters is usually because somebody had water leak from their pressure relief valve because expansion tank failed or they opened it and dirt got in valve, so they unscrew pipe and put a plug in the relief valve. then pressure can get crazy high if they have a city water backflow check valve or pressure reducer which i why they needed an expansion tank. if you don't have check valve expanding water just goes back down cold water pipe
@grn9209
@grn9209 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! We just replaced ours after 12 years since our home was new. One key sign we ignored was how the hot water was not lasting when used ( shower and dishwasher running simultaneously). Love the channel , keep the videos coming!
@attocoulomb
@attocoulomb Жыл бұрын
Some times the plastic dip tube can break off. The tube takes the incoming cold water and routes it to the bottom of the tank, so the incoming water forces the (heated) water out the top. If the tube breaks, the incoming cold water will mix with the hot, before all of the hot is used. The plastic tube can be replaced, but after 12 years it was a better idea to just get a new one.
@Explosiivo
@Explosiivo Жыл бұрын
The anode rod is on the hot outlet. Some people are saying it's on the cold inlet, even some saying the dip-tube is "coated." It's just a solid magnesium anode that is connected to the hot outlet nipple.
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat Жыл бұрын
Nice, didn't know that
@dscrive
@dscrive Жыл бұрын
I cut one up and made a little heating wood stove out of it. If anyone thinks about playing around with these, take respiratory precautions because the inside is lined with glass, I verified it when I tried to weld to it and couldn't get a good ground haha, once I got a good ground I was able to just blow through the glass layer.
@dolph9913
@dolph9913 Жыл бұрын
I bought my first house. The temperature pressure relief valve was clogged. Tried to drain the water heater to no avail. Took off the pressure relief valve knuckle. This was under tremendous pressure. Replaced it. Probably bought a few more years.
@lambition
@lambition Жыл бұрын
If you replace anode every few years and flush tank every year, the tank will pretty much last forever. Expansion tank failure is often because air pressure was not matched with water pressure. Bladder always stays at expanded state when air pressure is lower than water pressure causing premature failure.
@jpalarchio
@jpalarchio Жыл бұрын
Have been through about three water heaters with the last one failing basically down to the exact month of the 12-year rating. Something worth mentioning as part of the replacement is adding an inexpensive leak pan and/or water leak detector for that next time around.
@pauljamilkowski3672
@pauljamilkowski3672 Жыл бұрын
The leak detectors are hugely important especially if you have a finished area where the water heater can cause major damage. In some towns where I live it's required to have one if your basement is finished or even semi-finished
@dustmaker1000
@dustmaker1000 Жыл бұрын
Excellent - I’m one of those guys that do all handyman things around the house and I even replaced my current water heater. I’ve been hearing for over40years to annually drain the tank to remove sediment…..and I’ve never done it. My current tank is now 10 years old and on my radar for replacement. This video is timely and reminding me that I need to elevate this project. Because of your video, I may cut mine open to see what is inside
@erniemenard7727
@erniemenard7727 Жыл бұрын
I've always done my own also. The current gas water heater is a GE bought from HD and installed in Sept. 2008.
@craigsymington5401
@craigsymington5401 Жыл бұрын
It was a water heater like this that got me into KZbin and restarted me welding and fabricating again about 6 years ago. This is also how I got into "Rocket Stoves" and Rocket mass heaters. And repurposing stuff, anything with scrap metal... My father-in-law's water heater failed (attic mount, no drip tray) after only 7 years (5 year warranty), the autopsy revealed a careful placed blow, 4 \lb hammer style, in the side of the glass coated cylinder (dent in foam, so definitely production line installed) and a dented outlet pipe connection (carrier/plumber error?), both points of failure. The replacement was installed by insurance plumbing contractor with a tray and external drain, which was new code in South Africa, as well as new valves. My insurance replacement was moved to outside the building we were renting by the insurance contractor.
@pileofstuff
@pileofstuff Жыл бұрын
Note that , depending on your local jurisdiction, it may be illegal to work on natural gas pipes **without proper licensing or certification**. It may also void your house insurance, or put you in violation of your gas supplier's contract. Be sure to know what your local laws are, and what your insurance contract specifies.
@topc5826
@topc5826 Жыл бұрын
Bradford White has its anode rod which is in the hot water line. It's a combination anode rod and hot water output. The barnacle you found was what was left of your anode rod. Had you changed it when you bought the house your water heater would probably be intact that day you came home to find water on the floor.
@DadWil
@DadWil Жыл бұрын
Nice to know about the Anode rod... thanks for the info ... now time to call my plumber an get mine checked out
@Sebastopolmark
@Sebastopolmark Жыл бұрын
Brad you're killing me. My house was build in 2K5 and it has a Bradford White water heater. I have been talking about replacing it. Maybe I should? ?? ??? Thanks for the kick AND the pressure tank info too! !! !!!
@ibtarnine
@ibtarnine Жыл бұрын
A suggestion for people changing the anode rod, especially if you haven't changed it in awhile: Do not even attempt to go at it with a normal wrench. You absolutely need to use an impact wrench. You will almost definitely just strip the bolt with anything other than an impact wrench.
@russelldevane5434
@russelldevane5434 Жыл бұрын
Penetrating oil, wait a day, use any wrench next question. 😂
@zoso1123
@zoso1123 Жыл бұрын
If i have to uninstall the tank to replace then reinstall why wouldnt i just change the tank? Asking for a friend
@ibtarnine
@ibtarnine Жыл бұрын
@@zoso1123 You don't have to uninstall the tank to replace the anode rod, you just have to turn the water off, set the pilot light into standby/vacation mode (if it's gas), and then drain the tank fully or partially. Once the tank is drained you can take the rod out, put the new one in, turn the water back on, and turn the water heater back up to your desired temperature. You're also going to want to put a bit of ptfe tape (plumber's tape) around the threading for the rod before you put it in.
@zoso1123
@zoso1123 Жыл бұрын
@@ibtarnine how do u fit a rod in the tank without tipping the tank in a basement with low ceilings?
@ibtarnine
@ibtarnine Жыл бұрын
@@zoso1123 Ah I see what you're asking. What I would do is pull out as much as you can, clamp it so it doesn't fall back into the tank, and cut it with a grinder. After that, you can pull the rest out, or clamp and cut again if you still don't have enough room.
@ElisaShaffer
@ElisaShaffer Жыл бұрын
So no joke, our water heater failed this week (it’s in the main hallway of our home). We had to have a remediation crew come in, remove carpet, and we are currently living in a vortex of fans. Great video, wish it came out two weeks earlier. 😂
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat Жыл бұрын
Ugh, hate to hear that
@cyri96
@cyri96 11 ай бұрын
American Videos about are always quite interesting to me as a Professional heating Planner from Switzerland, especially how short the life expectancy for some appliances are. Like, we commonly expect the hot water tanks here to last at least around 20 years if not more (sometimes up to 40) though it is also extremely rare to have them directly heated, as most are instead hooked up to the main heating system with a central heat source for both heating and hot water.
@snickpickle
@snickpickle 11 ай бұрын
I've only experienced this type of system once here in the USA (and in Northern Minnesota, at that), and that was at a lakeshore house we rented in the offseason. Since the crawl space underneath the house was not insulated, nor were the hot water pipes for heating, it was VERY expensive to heat that place during temperatures in the -20 to -30 range (both in Fahrenheit and Celsius)! But we always had hot water! I applaud having a system like that, for the sake of using the heat twice. But unfortunately so many places in the USA use forced-air heat instead of hot water heat.
@kellyb7321
@kellyb7321 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I've never done any maintenance on my hot water heater because, well I never knew it needed done. Looks like that will be tomorrow's project.
@davidshaw9993
@davidshaw9993 Жыл бұрын
Your "crazy barnacle" was an anode rod. Water heaters don't explode - they leak slowly. If you maintain them properly you can get 30+ years out of it.
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat Жыл бұрын
Yeah, never seen that style rod before. Always seen the ones that screw in from the top
@topc5826
@topc5826 Жыл бұрын
@@Fixthisbuildthat it does screw in from the top it's the hot water output side of the water heater.
@markkempton4579
@markkempton4579 Жыл бұрын
This is easily the best water tank video I've ever seen. Unfortunately, I've learned everything you did the same way, but I appreciate the great job breaking things down. I've never seen an expansion tank connected directly to a water heater until I started watching plumbing videos. Must be how it's done when the tank is in the garage. Our basement tank has the expansion tank overhead in the joists in line after the water heater and before the first branch off to the faucets.
@russjohnson6396
@russjohnson6396 Жыл бұрын
I think the expansion tank is required by code, particularly if there is a check valve anywhere following the water meter.
@markkempton4579
@markkempton4579 Жыл бұрын
@@russjohnson6396 so is mine, but it's not right on the tank
@Gantorin
@Gantorin Жыл бұрын
I am moving into my new house soon, so this was VERY valuable information. Thank you!
@travisyarbrough4033
@travisyarbrough4033 Жыл бұрын
Rotten rubber water ....... Cheap water heater also. Our Rheem 50 gallon is nuts !!!! Turned down to first setting and 127 tap temps even outside. Furthest is the shower and it is at 120ish also. Great upgrade for us. Don't think twice folks. That Rheem heater is amazing compared to a run of the mill 50 gallon we had. Three times better. Heater had rotted outside and rod was swiss cheese and half it's original length. Set some reminders on phone calander ( Google ) for maintenance reminders in the future. The reminders show up on my computer and email to make sure I don't miss them in the future.
@davidboston7943
@davidboston7943 Жыл бұрын
Good PSA! I only learned about water heater maintenance a couple months ago when I had to replace the elements in mine. I originally came from the Pacific Northwest, where we have pretty neutral water, and my parents never did any upkeep on theirs. Now I live in the Midwest, and the water situation is a complete 180.
@osgeld
@osgeld Жыл бұрын
2:14 how I figured out ours was about to go, is that all the houses in our neighborhood were built around the same time, and I started to see heaters one by one on the curb over the course of a month or two ... ours was next. House was built in 92 some basic fuzzy math tells me that lasts about 9.8 years on average, and our old one was made in late 2008 and we replaced ours in July 2019. Here's a tip for everyone when you replace your WH, write the month and year on the outside with a marker so its not as much of a surprise
@erniemenard7727
@erniemenard7727 Жыл бұрын
And don't do it with a Sharpie. I did, and now I can just barely discern the last digit of the year of installation, 2008.
@5ElementsWoodworking
@5ElementsWoodworking Жыл бұрын
Nice soldering job! I learned to solder with my Dad when we switched from a coal hot air furnace to a base board hot water furnace. Must have soldered 250 joints that week. I ditto whoever said get a pan, and you can get a water sensor too for cheap. If you have IoT setup at home, they have ones that integrate. If not, they'll just beep super loud. Again, nice job!
@greenyonder
@greenyonder Жыл бұрын
This was both fascinating and helpful. Thank you for using your homeowner problem to educate the rest of us.
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@timothywhieldon1971
@timothywhieldon1971 Жыл бұрын
too bad almost everything he said is WRONG
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat Жыл бұрын
@@timothywhieldon1971 have you been talking to my mother-in-law?
@duncancremin1708
@duncancremin1708 Жыл бұрын
Irish here, operating to European standards, so never seen anything like that before. Nearest thing we have would be the immersion heater, but those are electric, usually have a replaceable element that goes in from the top, and are always made of a non ferrous metal, like copper or stainless steel. With the price of gas or kerosene, I can’t imagine being able to afford to run a burner just for hot water storage. Over here, if we’re using a burner like that for hot water, the hot water storage is heated as a side effect of running a central heating system to heat the whole house. Or, in some systems, there is no hot water storage at all, and the burner instantly heats only the water that’s required right now. Thanks for showing this. It clarified a few things and now I get where some of the misunderstandings come from, when people from the US try to deal with regular plumbing over here.
@emmetmyers
@emmetmyers Жыл бұрын
Never leave a leaking fitting on top of your water heater. Leaks on top of your water heater destroys more water heaters than rust from the inside
@monteglover4133
@monteglover4133 Жыл бұрын
Dielectric unions on the cold water inlet and the hot water outlet will help the water heater last longer. The brass valve above the water heater is also a back flow preventer.
@EeyoreDavey
@EeyoreDavey Жыл бұрын
I believe newer tanks that are made from Stainless steel do not use anode rods, might actually be hard to buy a decent WH now that does. I also didn't know about the "annual" maintenance until last year when my 5 year old tank started leaking. I have such awful water where I live that at most people get 6-7 years from our WH's and now I'm cleaning mine every 3 months, and it's crazy the junk that comes out just after 3 months.
@snickpickle
@snickpickle 11 ай бұрын
We just had a new well dug a year ago (the old one ran dry), and there is roughly 100' difference in how deep the new well was dug. I was quite dismayed at how much CRUD there is in that new well! I blow down the tank once a year now for sure! I've even heard that one should actually leave the water pressure on, so that it will force more junk out. The last time I drained the tank, that's exactly what I did.
@rgsparber1
@rgsparber1 Жыл бұрын
I put my water heater in a 3” deep pan and put a leak detector in there. It gave me plenty of early warning when a seam started to leak. The detector sounds like a smoke detector when it goes off (in the middle of the night…).
@ptech88
@ptech88 Жыл бұрын
The anode is part of the hot or cold water. Some have separate but others are part of the hot I believe.
@powerbuilder0510
@powerbuilder0510 10 ай бұрын
That rod you found in the tank is the remains of the sacrificial anode, thats what left when they're later or never changed 😮 🎉
@sbpboyd
@sbpboyd Жыл бұрын
You should have tested your water pressure at the heater because of your prv at the heater. Hopefully it was the same because you tested at the hose bib and that is typically before the PRV or the the first water fixture before entering the house.
@Indiskret1
@Indiskret1 Жыл бұрын
My heater is Swedish made and from 1974. Still works perfectly. Will not change what works and (of course) is situated in a room with a drain. (edit due to autocorrect!)
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 Жыл бұрын
Don't know what your set up is but opening a hot water faucet should break the airlock and allow more water to come out but you might've already been at maximum flow due to holes rust etc. With Ours in the basement I can either open the utility sink or the upstairs sink and it does make a difference.
@snickpickle
@snickpickle 11 ай бұрын
Once the water had started draining when we replaced our heater, I just opened up the emergency valve, which helped. But I regret not opening up a faucet or two, because it turned out to be more efficient.
@johnwehunt4305
@johnwehunt4305 Жыл бұрын
I installed a Rheem Marathon metal free water heater and after the previous revision replacement for the long warranty to the current revision all has been good.
@missionmarkone7484
@missionmarkone7484 Жыл бұрын
FYI in Australia, regulations stipulate you have a tray under and heated water vessel with a plumbed in drain. There is requirements put on the tray size too. Additionally hot water vessels here don’t have a the expansion tanks. And finally, some hot water vessels have non-return valves which I would assume is why you couldn’t turn on you hot tap to drain it quicker. If you turn on the cold, it would work.
@court2379
@court2379 11 ай бұрын
New installs require mostly the same in the US. Though it does vary a bit by state or even county. Floor drain, drain pan, extension on the pressure relief to get it close to the ground (to prevent burns should it go off). In earthquake areas a strap holding it to the walls and flexible pipe connections. Most places require an expansion tank because there are check valves in the lines from the city. As the tank heats up, the thermal expansion has to go somewhere.
@MrKen-wy5dk
@MrKen-wy5dk Жыл бұрын
I've been using a whole house water softner for over 20 years here in Houston. Water heater still going strong and no deposits around my faucets, ever.
@MANSHED
@MANSHED Жыл бұрын
I switched to a tankless water heater 7 years ago and never regretted it. Great video Brad. 😊
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Michael, I considered tankless. But I couldn't give up the dedicated circuit in the shop
@tcg1_qc
@tcg1_qc Жыл бұрын
@@noquedaniuno how is gas more secure than electricity
@noquedaniuno
@noquedaniuno Жыл бұрын
@@tcg1_qc It is for this case in specific, since he already have a gas installation. Since it only stays on, for as long as a hot water line its open. Besides it only opens the gas if there is a flame, otherwise it will shut down the valve if for any reason it wont ignite or anyways
@MANSHED
@MANSHED Жыл бұрын
@@Fixthisbuildthat yea, I get that. I got a commercial grade tankless heater so it needed 2 dedicated circuits but now 3 people can take showers at the same time in 3 different bathrooms and the dishwasher going and nobody runs out of hot water. 😂
@tcg1_qc
@tcg1_qc Жыл бұрын
@@noquedaniuno I still don't see how it's more secure. Yeah, he already has gas, and there are safety features, but electricity is still safer.
@Danman1972
@Danman1972 Жыл бұрын
That sucks big time. Been there and done that. A few times. Long story short... keep you turn off key handy and know where your water valve is. If you go on a weeks vacation shut the flow off to the house. I have one that will leave the sprinkler on, but shut the house down. I've had a pop off valve fail, the previous owner used regular PVC for the drain on it. That failed shortly because the glue is not rated for scalding hot water. I was home. Was able to shut the hot water heat fill off quickly. Had a plumber repair it. Despite the down sides, I really do want to go with tankless.
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, I shut our water off every time we leave overnight. I've had too many close calls and friends who had flooded houses when they were gone
@redcorset
@redcorset 10 ай бұрын
Before you purchase a water heater. Take a strong flashlight and shine it in either of the water ports hot or cold. As you are doing that look into the other water port and by moving the flashlight beam around. Make sure that the tank liner coating is intact, no cracks. Rough handling can cause cracks in this liner. Cracks will be where the tank will eventually rust out. 10 minutes of inspection will save you from an early demise.
@miketayse
@miketayse Жыл бұрын
I'm a homeowner with a 12 year, at the end of it's service life, Bradford-White water heater. I called them up with the model number and serial number, figuring if they could sell me the same model, it would speed up installation. They told me they don't sell to homeowners and were of no help at all in trying to locate a replacement. They didn't care at all, in my opinion, when I told them I was a homeowner. I looked about on the internet and found Bradford-White sometimes sells rebraded GE, so if you need a Bradford-White, maybe go that route.
@johnmcrae5043
@johnmcrae5043 Жыл бұрын
My NC house is 31 years old and still has its original 2 A.O. Smith 40-gal electric water heaters. I've been paying Duke Energy an insurance repair premium for 15 years, so I'm sure I've paid more than they're worth by now. I inspect them every couple months, hoping I'll find a leak and get them replaced.
@FreakGene
@FreakGene Жыл бұрын
Our hot water heater is currently about 25 years old. In an unfinished basement so just waiting for it to leak to replace it. Or whenever we finally decide to redo the plumbing (house has old iron pipes and a questionable planning to them, the hot water connects back to the cold water at the end by the master bathroom so it takes forever for hot water). Still try and flush it out every so often, but unsure how well of a flush is as the shut of valve to the tank doesn't work. Also the original owners installed it so everything (temp, pressure release, flush) is against the cement walls in a corner so thats always fun...
@retass1979
@retass1979 Жыл бұрын
That small metal rod inside is what was left over from the anode rod…it is a sacrificial rod made a magnesium alloy…it prevents the tank from rusting and should be changed every 3-5 years. They are sold at home depot…but most people don’t do this critical maintenance.
@missinesita5032
@missinesita5032 Жыл бұрын
I've had to change the water heater in two of my homes by now and I've always wanted to see the insides. Thanks Brad!
@TekedixXx
@TekedixXx Жыл бұрын
About 5 months ago our hot water heater blew all 3 gaskets on the top and was spraying water in my utility room. We discovered it when the hot water was only warm (We have a solar hot water heater inline that heats our ground water to 60+ before it hits the traditional tank) and I went down in the basement to investigate only to see water spraying onto the ceiling. Thankfully it was right next to the sump pump and that part of the room has a isolated ridge stopping any water from escaping, but we still needed a new unit and the accompanying code-required add-ons. The plumber couldn't believe water was coming out of every hole in the top of the tank. The inlet and outlet were both leaking. Unit was installed 2010.
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what we're hoping to avoid. Looks like you made it just past the 12 year mark
@attocoulomb
@attocoulomb Жыл бұрын
Did you have an expansion tank installed?
@JamesKehoeDO
@JamesKehoeDO Жыл бұрын
I know other have pointed it out but that tank even though old failed because the anode rod was completely disintegrated. Yes the Bradford Whites have an anode rod it is on the hot water nipple. I am not aware of any traditional tank that does not have one. Also you can get a kit to move a anode rod on your new tank to the hot water nipple. This is a good idea because if you break the more traditional location off your tank is likely ruined. The hot water ones don't thread directly to the tank.
@mr.bianchirider8126
@mr.bianchirider8126 10 ай бұрын
My water heater lasted for 32 years before I replaced it. It was still working with no leaks or rust, but needed to be moved to install a new furnace (which was also 32 years old). I figured if the water heater was moved around and put back, it would start leaking. I’m on a well pump. The water is high in sulfur so the anode was removed when it was installed to reduce the rotten egg smell. The water goes through a softener. Four people lived in the house for the majority of the time. I guess I got my money’s worth. AO Smith gas heater.
@richardflanigan9475
@richardflanigan9475 Жыл бұрын
That ‘barnacle’ I believe was part of the anode. If you replace the anode every 5+ years and purge the sentiment from the tank yearly you can extend the life of the tank.
@flatlander523
@flatlander523 Жыл бұрын
You may have just disscovered why you should install a flex hose from the heater to the house. Really a bummer to have a leak on a fitting you cannot tighten. Cut down your pedistal some, get rid of as many sweated connections by installing flex hose and you should be good for another 10 years. I did the same thing you are doing with a tank that leaked and stopped for a year and started again. Owning a house is fix this fix that.😅
@LimbaZero
@LimbaZero 10 ай бұрын
Haven't seen those. What we had in my childhood home was about 4-6 m3 rectangular hot-water tank. We had boiler in separated fireproof room. It can use oil, wood or peat. If I remember right water tank had 3 loops. one for boiler, one for central heat, and last one was for hot tap water. Water tank also had heating elements.
@kevinkoch5243
@kevinkoch5243 Жыл бұрын
Bought a new construction home 11 years ago. The water heater is electric and I replaced the heating elements in it just over a year ago. Great video here, my takeaway is I need to start paying more attention to it and now. 😊
@WeBeGood06
@WeBeGood06 Жыл бұрын
Did you replace the sacrificial anode?
@vuurkoning
@vuurkoning 10 ай бұрын
Well, my heater was installed when the house was built in the ninetees, making it 30 ish years old. In the 17 years ive been with it its never had any repairs. It likes to drip at night cus the pressure thingy is starting to leak.
@Maximosis007
@Maximosis007 10 ай бұрын
Kool
@AmplifyDIY
@AmplifyDIY Жыл бұрын
Many Bradford White heaters have the anode built into the hot water outlet.
@Acheron2010
@Acheron2010 Жыл бұрын
We're in the process of purchasing a home in Alberta, Canada. The home has a ten-year old water heater. In obtaining homeowners insurance, I was surpised to learn the insurance company will add $300 a month to your premium if your water heater is >10 years old.
@jonathanshumpert9549
@jonathanshumpert9549 Жыл бұрын
I just replaced my water heater a few months ago. It has been in the house since before I met my wife about 19 years ago. It had so much gunk/sediment in the bottom that the drain valve would not drain. Thankfully it was mounted close to the floor so I didn't have too much difficulty moving it despite it having 50 gallons of water.
@yeensbeans
@yeensbeans Жыл бұрын
Replace that plastic drain valve with a brass one. The plastic ones have a high failure rate I only learned about after it flooded my basement.
@dogieeu
@dogieeu 11 ай бұрын
Hey hey just a reminder DO NOT WEAR GLOVES WHEN USING ANGLE GRINDER!!! Glove may be caught by the spinning disc and it will destroy your hand
@ImOnAJourney
@ImOnAJourney Жыл бұрын
We’ve NEVER had a water heater last more than 6 years because, even with a water softener, our water is full of minerals … and sometimes boulders … or so it seems. And yes, our water softener works just fine. It’s actually less than 2 years old, it was purchased through our local plumber (not a Big Box unit), it was professionally installed, we add excellent quality salt regularly, we scrub the brine tank monthly, and we have the unit professionally maintained annually. It’s definitely our water quality. I’ve never seen an expansion tank on a water heater before. I’ve seen them on water pumps in houses/barns/field irrigation systems/swimming pools/etc. on properties that have private wells where there is no public water source. That’s definitely not a thing where we live. Interesting. The water is black because the water itself ate the rubber bladder. Water does that to rubber after years and years of contact. And yeah, that was disgusting. If you had applied your muscles to the heaviest part of the tank, it wouldn’t have taken so much energy to slide it uphill. Just sayin’. Nice little ramp, though.
@Fixthisbuildthat
@Fixthisbuildthat Жыл бұрын
what part of the world/country are you in?
@ranger178
@ranger178 Жыл бұрын
the barnacle rod was probably all that is left of your anode rod some water heaters have the anode as part of the fill pipe. i did that cutting it open to an old water heater once i kept the old heater after i put in new one closer to bathrooms and used it with no insulation on it to pre warm the water to room temp till i was getting worried it would break one day. then i took it out and cut it open still had not leaked in 20 years.
@ProudVet-Russ
@ProudVet-Russ Жыл бұрын
was that solder he used in between the pipe pieces? i know that stuff is used for connecting electronics like repairing wires or connecting points on a board. isn't that stuff pretty soft? would it be able to resist 50lbs per square inch of water pressure that he measures for his faucet?
@farmgrowncountrystrong
@farmgrowncountrystrong Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing for this video 👍🏻 We've been having problems with ours and no one else had such an in-depth video.
@catcrazy8
@catcrazy8 Жыл бұрын
I went tankless years ago and I love it! I never ran out of hot water while raising my six kids. Had the dishwasher running while doing laundry and kids taking showers all at the same time. Bonus - it hangs on the outside of my house and frees up space in the garage, and I don't have to worry about damage to my home.
@mrcrash5555
@mrcrash5555 Жыл бұрын
Do you have problems with the unit freezing in the winter. Never understood putting them outside.
@caroljeannephillips8794
@caroljeannephillips8794 Жыл бұрын
Are you saving $ in the long run? What size are you using and what size is your house? We need to change out our water heater and we're seriously considering going to a tankless system.
@pilotdog68
@pilotdog68 Жыл бұрын
​@@mrcrash5555they probably live somewhere like Florida
@monteglover4133
@monteglover4133 Жыл бұрын
@@caroljeannephillips8794 we had a tankless in our previous home really like it showers and laundry at the same time. How ever some periodical maintenance should be performed for maximum efficiency
@tizme6105
@tizme6105 Жыл бұрын
We have just gone to a High pressure tankless system too. I took the old LP hotwater cylinder out and checked the date stamp on it - 1953 30 Imp Gal copper tank. It was actually the old 1" galv pipe (at the BSP threads) that gave out, not the tank. Amazing difference in hot water supply.
@bit-tuber8126
@bit-tuber8126 Жыл бұрын
Trick I learned when I was young enough to do this trick. Take a couple of heavy leather pants belts, with rough enough surfaces, comfortably above the center line, around the heater. It then gives you enough of a grip to securely lift up the heater. Used t his for both removing and reinstalling heaters.
@ejonesss
@ejonesss Жыл бұрын
the barnacle is the anode rod it causes an electrical reaction that is supposed to neutralize the electrical reaction that causes the rust . if you replace the rod it is possible to extend the life of the tank but i am not sure if you can get replacement rods.
@BruceAUlrich
@BruceAUlrich Жыл бұрын
I don't have that pressure valve with the bladder on mine. Must just be a difference of code in different areas. Good to know all of this!
@gordbaker896
@gordbaker896 10 ай бұрын
Too much chatter. Don't try to drain it as the valve will likely not seal. There is and upper and lower heating element. Do NOT turn on power with tank empty. That was the remains of the Anode, a 5/8" dia aluminum/magnesium rod which while connected helps prevent internal corrosion. Bladder had long gone in Pressure area of small tank.
@b_uppy
@b_uppy Жыл бұрын
Would love to see what the inside of a tankless WH looks like. Curious as to how they heat efficiently...
@ronaldtreitner1460
@ronaldtreitner1460 Жыл бұрын
used to run to pubic pool and one year for our last party we left the water on for a last event at the clubhouse and it got really cold. the part that regulated shutting it on off froze and the water heater built up pressure. the explosion could be heard all around the lake. the water heater blow a good portion of the pool house roof off as it launched itself into orbit landing 50ft away, so yes they can go off like a bomb.
@kazolar
@kazolar Жыл бұрын
Why replace one tank for another? Especially with gas. When gas was installed on our street, we switched from electric, we got an instant on, and it has been awesome. Takes so much less space, and works great. Never had any issues with hot water pressure.
@goingagainstthegrain
@goingagainstthegrain Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I just replaced mine a couple of months ago. I noticed it started leaking out of the bottom.
@criticalevent
@criticalevent 11 ай бұрын
I've got an electric heater and I have to run it without the anode rod because of the sulfur in the water causing bacteria growth on it and a horrible stink, so I have the tank in a water heater pan so I'll have warning when it eventually leaks, but it's been going strong for 20 years!
@red58impala
@red58impala Жыл бұрын
My electric water heater stopped getting hot so I had to service mine. I used to drain the tank but never drained after my dog chewed off the portion of the spigot that you attach a hose to. Getting the bottom element out was a difficult. I had to use an electric impact gun to get it out because it was full of sediment. I cleaned out the sediment which took hours - I didn't have the right tools, but the inside of he tank, at least at the bottom still looked new. I was shocked since this is the original water heater that was in the house when I bought it in 1993, the house was built in 1988. I replaced all the electrical components, both elements, and installed a new spigot and it came back to life. I know it'll go out some day, but for now, I'll keep using it until I have to replace it. Thankfully, it's in my garage so if it leaks, the damage, if any, should be minimal.
@greglamphier4430
@greglamphier4430 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this.. you’re a great communicator/teacher. It makes these projects much more approachable as a home owner. Thanks again!
@SoyFreeMustardFree
@SoyFreeMustardFree Жыл бұрын
We had one that was 17 years old when we bought the house. Needless to say I replaced that really quick
@Syunnnnnnn
@Syunnnnnnn Жыл бұрын
most austrlian water heaters are outside on the side of your house, if it does explode it does not damage anything
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