Don't Make This Mistake When pH Adjusting Plant Nutrients...

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

Super quick and raw video for you today. Nothing fancy here, just wanted to get the message out to those of you putting pH up/down directly into your nutrient solution. Adding pH up/down directly into the nutrient solution is a mistake that I've made before and I don't hear many people talk about this crucial step. Here is that video by Everest Fernandez that I spoke about within this video-> kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmbZfYB7ZbNga5Y Also... Blue Planet Nutrients (Discount code: MRGROWIT)- bit.ly/2lzjC2i pH Up & pH Down (Discount code: MRGROWIT)- bit.ly/2HxgoER PH meter- amzn.to/2tcfrhh

[@garyalcorn3831]

So what is the downside to adding ph straight to reservoir?

[@jermlittle1970]

@@theknightspalace your so smart.I wish I was a genius like you.And notes that brilliant.You sure helped me out.lol

[@TheOGJeff]

What would happen if you just mixed it without dilution?

[@Electric_Skunk]

Thanks man. I had no freaking idea thats what the cloud was. Appreciate it man, thanks for sharing 👍

[@lessmigrantsmorewalls8392]

And with this method can I add both pH up and pH down to the same nutrient solution?

[@MrCanucksGrowGuide]

Ive never mixed liquid nutes before so didn't realize this was a thing to know. thanks for sharing man.

[@theknightspalace]

Shout the f! out to you on the spiderfarm QB.. happy New year! Can I download your music playlist..🤣🤣🤣🤣🙏😎

[@linseywicker6843]

We watch your videos for learning as well. You and mr. Grow are our "go to guys" when we need to know somethin

[@linseywicker6843]

Oh and wizard npk and lex blazer You guys are our top 4

[@hollowbullet]

@@linseywicker6843 Can't forget lex blazer and check out DGC's grow talks; learnt so much from those guys

[@thebayslayer1]

Its actually the nutrients binding together and locking out which becomes un available to the plant

[@valeriesanchez3074]

I been using lemon juice and baking soda as a ph up and ph down. Working wonderful

[@Just4Growers]

Hey amigo-thanks for the shout-out. Much appreciated!

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

I was always taught give credit where credit is due 🙂 ... I hope all has been well with you. Cheers man!

[@chriswilliamson1211]

Damn. I've been making this mistake for 3 grows, now. Oops. Thanks for the video Chris, I hope you know how much of a help you are to "our community". Keep em coming, man. I can't get enough.

[@Kid_Kootenay]

It's called flockulation it happens anytime you ad up to a fert solution to avoid do as you did or adjust the plane water first then add the fert and it will drop down. Flockulation is binding the fert molecules up too big to enter the roots it turns into something similar to gyprock turning cloudy and falling out of solution. Great tip I worked in a hydro store for over ten years and almost no one was aware of this

[@timbrowers4094]

And how did their plants grow ? Just fine I bet. Or they could have had 2% more yield , not worth it.

[@ThroughTheTrials]

This is honestly huge, I’m glad I found this.

[@dr.cronik0_038]

Hey man could you revisit this on a grow talk. Maybe like chemical reactions with nutes. You could talk about the ph cloudy again. Also include proper silica mixing so you don't make sand. And I also know about calcium locking out phosphorus or potassium if mixed in the wrong ratios. I'm trying to think of any other reactions to be aware of but I'm sure there's alot. Didnt you settle that phing is fine for microbes. But I think you get the jist, I think this would be a great topic.

[@rollerkitbird]

Dude, I watched that Everest video too. It's why I'm here. Has this been proven? I started doing this cause it makes sense but what do I know... I'm half retarded

[@skotg406]

odd, 25 years of hydo adding ph up & down directly to my nutes with no issues.

[@GD1_3]

So this explains why my ph won't go up

[@stainpain77]

Anytime you mix acid or base into a chemical compound you are always going to get a chemical reaction. That’s the point. Just because you deleted it doesn’t mean it’s not still doing the same thing. You see the cloud because it’s a high dose reaction but in reality when it’s diluted it’s a smaller scale but the same chemical reaction is still occurring

[@m.feaver960]

Keep the water turning in one circular stirring motion while adding your droplets and it will cut down on the clouding tremendously. Very good thoughts though, diluting it would be the A+ way to go. So med.

[@davidlovell7724]

Do you check the ph, before adding the nutrients or after the nutrients go in?

[@pwgreen420]

I use lemon juice, the only direction I ever need to go is down, lemon juice is perfect the plants love it

[@torrielandsman4625]

Excellent advice Chris, It was a mistake I made thirty years ago and had to learn by myself because there was no internet back then. You new growers don't realize how good you have it with people Like Chris to steer you right. My first and last experience with adding potassium silicate was awful, It coagulated into a suspended sludge like substance (thats what the cloud Chris showed you) my pump distributed it throughout my system and plugged up drip lines and I had to scrape it off my rock wool so the water would go through it again, I replaced all of my spaghetti lines.

[@MrKnew]

Gosh, I really wish I could talk to somebody about acidity and pH. What I would like to know is, do I need to start balancing my pH before I pour Foxfarm into soil or should I just follow the recommended chart regardless of how high my pH gets because my babies seem to keep disintegrating every time I does, even when I dial it back. It’s just a conundrum to me and I don’t want to mess up and I wanna get this figured out and how to convert fox farms for soil has been a journey; most definitely switching to Hydro in the next few years when I can afford it.

[@justinhewlett2585]

Thank you from saving me from that mistake would of happened...

[@jcmusc]

How much dolomite lime do I need to get a 5 gallon bucket of soil from pH of 5.2 to 6.2 pH? My soil keeps acidifying and then ALL bloom I'm FIGHTING to try and raise it but the runoff keeps coming out at 5.2-5.5 pH when the water going in is 7.3ph. Help!

[@John_Williams421]

Wow now I’m wondering why I’ve had issues with my fox farm nutrients these past two runs!!!! Doing absolutely everything right and both runs around the first two weeks of flower on my autos I’m getting magnesium deficiencies!!!

[@notablerandom]

This is incredibly helpful and the first time I’ve heard this thank you Comment 420 yaaaaaa

[@joealta3450]

OK, there's a reaction.... but why is it bad? What actually happens chemically and what effect does it have on plants? What would actually happen if I don't dilute?

[@microbemania8391]

I know this is old but I just learned this about 2 weeks ago and I wish I had seen this when It came out, completely makes sense.

[@pcostyle11]

Same here im mid weeks 4 ill do it for sure !

[@bowzee1502]

People didn't know this? Got a cal lock problem and giving plants plenty..here's your problem lol

[@WhiteDiablo360]

This is an old video but he's right .. leads to nutrient lockout.

[@LilZombieCheese]

such a great VIDEO. Does this happen when adding micronized calcium and Citric acid?

[@bradharvy13]

I don't, disagree However, for hydro, they make a ph monitor, it just drops ph up, or down, down usually straight into res. It don't mix it..... I always put straight in. But I always have a spoon stirring as I slowly pour. I would say that's ok. However, I'm sure it's best to never see a cloud lol

[@scottarnold6528]

After only a few watering's you should know how much of which product (Up or Down.) that you'll need to add to get within your pH range. Once you know that you can add your pH prior to mixing. Started doing that when I switched to well water, where I had to start using pH down & because it was acidic ( As apposed to pH up just being a base.) I figured that it would lock up easier and after I have my water measured out adding more water is just that extra water that throws off the formula (However minor that is.). Never really thought of it from a chemical reaction stand point.

[@mr.eastcoastgrow6132]

Yeah says it on the back of most up and down additives. Most ppl don't read the back

[@miguelbernardino7395]

So what happens when if you don’t ph

[@mr.eastcoastgrow6132]

@@miguelbernardino7395 what do you mean? The basics of PH is this plants need diffrent nutrients for diffrent things. Like nitrogen for instance is needed more in vegetative stage than opposed to bloom stage. In bloom the plants not focused on building more biomass in leafs and branches its more focused on buds and flowers witch require more potassium and Phosphorus. And there's loads of other micronutrients as well the plant needs. Each nutrient has a certain PH range where it's easy for the plant to digest and eat. So in vegetative stage a ph of 5.8 to 6.0 makes it easier for the plant to get the nitrogen. In bloom around 6.0 -6.2 for phosphorus to be easier to eat. In general if your around 6 the plant has access to almost everything it needs. Now say you don't ph your nutrient solution and it's at 4.5 or 8.0. In them ranges the nutrients aren't readily accessible to the plant throwing the entire plant and rootzone into a state of shock and imbalance. The rootzone can manipulate ph a bit by itself due to adaptation but only a tiny bit to help. Bottom line is proper PH range allows your plant to eat the food it needs. Without it in range it can't. Thats really it.

[@BBUBst]

The grey slime in my hydro is undiluted PH_Down? Can I keep the mix or do I have to start again if I was to drain and mix then reapply

[@cars-cannibis101]

So as far as reg watering if I'm just using a milk jug...adding in pH down...shake it up and test is wrong? I should delute it then add into my jug???

[@teddybear1829]

Help, does adding ph up or down add more ppms? I checked my ph after afew days and it raised after the first adjustment. Maybe from it being a hot few days someone said , so I adjusted down again as it raised to 8! out of curiosity of tested the ppms and it said 1000! these are only seedlings , when I first measured it was only 300pm’s

[@buddydavidson8549]

I have an idea for a growing experiment divide your grow room six plants on the left side and sex on the left the six plants on your left use great white in the soil and foop on the foliage end the six plants on the right side use CO2 compost in the soil and CO2 foliage spray only foliage and see which side grows better the side where you're using microbes are the side that you're using CO2 in which you cannot use CO2 in microbe products on the same plant because CO2 kills microbes using great white or foop will the CO2 product is redundant because the CO2 kills the good stuff off inside those products

[@elliseditz01]

does this happen with all nutrient brands.?

[@scottinsierras2945]

So Chris is that for all PH up’s? Manufacturer label doesn’t say to do that just curious?

[@scrapyang8977]

Finally found what I need. Cause when I put in ph up it just cloud like that. Thanks for the video. I knew that there was something wrong with it when I put in the ph

[@FortifiedMind]

What about using Vinegar to PH down? Is it safe?

[@alfredgaitan1201]

I use AN ph perfect and bring my water down to 7 first. Then they do the rest. It's great stuff biggest best plants ever.

[@tory464]

ThAnK yOu. S O o O..... MUCH. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@_KeneYah]

Organic ph up: banking soda Organic ph down: lemon juice from lemons, not lemon juice concentrate

[@kylepope6805]

Calcium carbonate and Carbonic acids where it’s at for organics

[@_KeneYah]

@@johnnys3576 I've been using baking soda and lemon or lime juice for a few months now and my plants dont even flinch cause it's all organic ingredients, nothing synthetic. your only using about a finger pinch worth of baking soda to raise ph or a couple drops worth of lemon/lime juice to lower ph in 1 gallon of water or feed & that amount isn't even enough to add ppms to the water, let alone do any damage

[@Oppenheimer1968]

Fabulous information in which I was not aware-thank you sir!

[@NICHOLAS-h1p]

Bro, I hope you’ve gotten yourself a proper work bench by now to do your thing.

[@MrSlim-pb2io]

Great update check out my grow room and let me know what you think

[@jamesmaske2710]

I always mix my nutrient and ph. up with a paint mixer that goes on a drill. LOL

[@enzoblade]

So what happens if you don't dilute, does it harm the plant?

[@robertsawada6536]

But how much did it change your EC‘s

[@Harvest_hustlers]

Use citric acid for oh down it will convert to phosphorus to anions there for up taking it in coco

[@sugargraham6868]

What ph do you recommend using pro mix?

[@kylesteen7205]

thanks mr grow it. didnt kno this myself.

[@victoryang2094]

how long can you store that premix?

[@austinreese420]

Use 542 down to earth for cannabis

[@user-pwfus]

I add my ph up to the res but mix it around as soon as I introduce it to the bucket so that it does not concentrate one spot.

[@videos-hp4ch]

So you have to dilute the ph liquid nomatter what brand

[@edgarnavarro7264]

hello bro, great informative video. Should I be doing the same process for PH Down or only for PH Up?

[@Killquickgamingofficial]

Should I dilute ph down aswell ???

[@toscompliance]

Beginners make this mistake all the time and don't realize the impact on soil health. Thanks for sharing with the community

[@therealm00theoriginal27]

well in hydro it does not matter

[@702grobuddy3]

Look at that! I've learned something new today! Thanks Chris! I'll definitely keep that in mind for now on. Just another extra step to keep the girls happy! Happy growing!

[@peaches963]

I've been struggling with this to the point that I stopped doing it, this video super simple and informative. Do you also check ppm run off and how do you do this

[@Bloomcycle]

Look up lemon juice to ph down

[@patty.cakes.]

Self reference: 00:43- pH up dilute it!!! 😮

[@moosebrandon8665]

Appreciate it man thank you

[@job187]

Do you find that the ph level in prepared water changes over time?

[@jeroenverbeeck7925]

It does

[@ghettoaquatics5244]

Another pro tip buy powdered ph up and down

[@offswitch1]

I put pH down in my tomato res.because it was at 7. Now after adding pH down the pH is even higher at 780 after 2 hours. How is this possible

[@fuzzy5101]

Aww shit i remember you being with epic five tv lol nice to see you doing the growing !

[@quentinaskin6752]

Thanks for sharing this chur

[@michealvega3695]

Shit I’ve always seen this cloud whe I ph up and thought it was normal thanks MR. G

[@ExiledJester]

Was literally wondering this myself yesterday on my last water about what I thought was a salt build up in my bucket.

[@michealvega3695]

Yea it looked funky to me now I’m using this method of pouring into into a small cup of water first and I don’t see a cloud anymore plus it’s working a lot better so it should last a lot longer as well

[@superunknown314159]

Yasss this happened all summer long! I knew it was a reaction but didn't realize it was negative

[@mariusadam4429]

so whats the down side to this-if i mix a batch and add up/down and the ph raises or lowers { which it does } how does this make for a bad reaction or how does this affect my crop ? ive never noticed any bad side affects from this

[@highsierragrowbro6683]

No shit. Damn. Ok. Gotta re-evaluate my ph mixing! Thanks Chris! You da man! Thanks for the amazing info!

[@austinreese420]

How to lower ec in soil with a power

[@chamed3381]

Thank you very much for this information!! My Ph always go back up when I adjust it to 5.8 and let it sit for a few it’s always goes back up to 6.1 or +

[@ruanschafer6877]

So I feed my plants this morning and discovered a few results regarding ph levels. The ph of the 1L tap water was 8.9. Added 1ml of fish mix. Ph dropped from 8.9 to 7.1. After adding a quarter of ml fish mix it dropped to 7.0. After leaving the water for 10min I test the Ph again and 7.0 was the reading. I'm using coco coir perlite. My question is do I have to use ph down to adjust to 6.2 - 6.3 ?? I discovered that the ph liquid I have is not organic. Can I use non organic ph liquid with organic nutrients?

[@chrisfarlee6496]

yes, and with cococoir you want to have a ph of around 5.8, you can use non organic ph with your nutes but if you want to keep a completely organic feed, diluted lemon juice will bring your ph down

[@littlemac8673]

I like to use lemon juice to go down.

[@Anthony0855]

@@chrisfarlee6496 no you cannot use regular ph up and down in organic soil/coco it will destroy the microbiology a simple google search will tell u this.

[@jeffheyer7783]

Thank you for this video! I just make this mistake and saw the “cloud” you speak of. I began to wonder if the nutrients were reacting with the ph up and down.

[@Superlow2015]

Wow! I did not know that shit!

[@joshuahereth5094]

Wow I just saw that! Thanks I would have fell right into that non- deluded and added just like that..Thanks and to that rocket scientist who said bad chemistry was happening..u guys rock!!!

[@MrM-69]

Should you do this for ph down too. Noob questions lol

[@tsquez]

Yeah I believe he said do it for both

[@UnconventionalPotato]

Damn i was thinking about getting that bluelab control system that drip ph down in your mix automatically. I guess il have to re evaluate

[@OperationAnnihilation]

Very valid point. Is the Blue lab controller diluting the pH up before adding to the rez??? I dont think so.

[@davidrich4738]

Thanks for the tip

[@dylski4294]

Thanks man! good video. Only thing that sucks is having so much extra water in your dwc that you’ll either have to scoop or drain out to get back to the appropriate level of your net pot. And then also having to re-assess PPMs, EC, and TDS. It’s a never ending cycle it seems. And also seems like it would take hours to feed your plants plants playing catch up

[@JH-lr8cl]

I dilute mine in distilled water 1/10 then store it in a large medicine syringe. Makes it easy to dose and it stores well for a week or so.

[@Javanni]

Smart. So you mix your ph w your distilled water then store it in a syringe?

[@JH-lr8cl]

@@Javanni correct. I use 80 % phosphoric acid. I find it easier to work with this way.

[@soulseeker42388]

What's happening is your seeing the dissolved solids fall out of solution

[@WogChilli]

High quality comment. Is this the same as supersaturation?

[@soulseeker42388]

@@WogChilli no it is a chemical reactions to the swing in acidity to alkaline

[@kr0nk]

Unintentionally doing this correctly. I don't like using the little tiny dropper. So I mixed some with a gallon of water. Ratio , ½ cup of water to 1 point approximately.

[@dimasmoreno3512]

Thanks for the info

[@rekaviles]

I was trying to raise PH off a 5 gallon bucket of solution and it did not want to move from 4.1. i added a bit at a time, testing after each but after 5 try, I tested other things to make sure my meter was not broken. I then tried to raise pH in same solution but just a cup of it and it worked. Could not figure outlets why the main 5 gallon world not move from 4.1. I rested enough so I left it as-is at that point since I already wasted a good amount of my small bottle. What you explained in this vid must be what I was going through. I'll try the dilute first method and see if that gets things moving. Thanks.

[@RIBBY_BOY]

I always do this and I noticed alot of people dont ur right about that I use a milk container so I dilute it atleast a litre

[@Brazilbroker1]

dude, excellent 💯💯💯

[@Trackattack.911]

Thank you man that really help because I really didn’t know that. I will do that for now on

[@extremeoverclockingyobbo5467]

good vid mate

[@seymourgreen5859]

I know this is an older video but, is this necessary with natural pH up/down like Earth Crystals?

[@bennybenz.]

Hellz yeah brother been researching around the clock for quite some time and never have never heard about this hack or pre-diluting your ph up and down before adding to your nutrient solution!👍 So kind of just stating the obvious here but if your just ph'ing your water without any other nutrients involved theres obviously no need for this ......correct!?!?👍

[@bennybenz.]

@@hlaw2830 ah you must be one of them grow know it alls huh! Or you just have no friends or no one else to argue with so you resort to trolling people in the comments section, damn clown!✌💯

[@bennybenz.]

@@hlaw2830 its comments like that, that just makes it more obvious your a failure.....Son!💯💯

[@bennybenz.]

@@hlaw2830 deeeeeezzzzz nutz!!!

[@laythbadra1231]

I did not know this...I have been having problems with my ppm fluctuating and have had no idea why. Could this be the reason for my fluctuating ppm? Thanks for sharing the knowledge!

[@greenghost-xi5jp]

Wow man i kno this vid old but this is huge. Ive been doing this wrong for over a decade.

[@thea.r.c.1914]

6.3 is perfect.

[@kaciaway4167]

Cheers mate.. notice that same white streak in my last 2 mixers n both got a bit frothy. I know y now. 👍🙏🇦🇺

[@yvanbeenhim]

I also found on an online source that adding a bit of tap water brings up the nute water’s PH level. Is this also an ok alternative method?

[@moioonoppe]

Any idea how long does nutrient solution lasts ? Im using organic fertilizer in soil and my bucket started to smell pretty awful and suspicious after few days. I already made a new patch, but it would be nice to know how long it can be used before new one.

[@deanv5470]

You do not need to pH any nutrient teas they will pH themselves you will damage to microbial activity

[@boringusername6876]

I dont even adjust it anymore since this cheap Amazon ph pens r garbage.. shows wild shit all over the place only shit it messures precisely is the calibration solution😂

[@kennethcunningham70]

Christian isn't going your water before adding nuets the same process??

[@simmon81au]

Another tip is don't use cheap Amazon ph pens. They're always way off