DON'T RUIN MY CHILDHOOD!! Reacting to "Mewtwo vs Shadow Death Battle"

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[@alvaroperez2349]

Some fun facts: Mewtwo first came to Smash Bros in Melee, But disappeared from Brawl, came back as DLC for Smash 4, and became a main character in Ultimate.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Bro talk about a tease...

[@alvaroperez2349]

@@theduckgoesmoo no kidding!

[@Whisper11950]

“Was this Pokémon ever in a game that you could catch and put on your team?” 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ Yeah. The first Pokémon game. And every mainline game since then if you traded it to them.

[@tyreeharris7214]

Only with a master ball

[@HeadBodyMasterPersonal]

@@tyreeharris7214 Not necessarily. As with any Pokemon, you can just lower its health and inflict status ailments like Paralyze or Sleep to increase the chance of catching it. Mewtwo just has an incredibly low catch rate, so it's just harder to catch overall.

[@DarkraitheLoner]

I know right? Was very shocked by that question. Nah man, here's a Pokemon that you will only ever see and be told about, but not ever able to capture. Would kind of make the whole "gotta catch em all" thing meaningless.

[@tyreeharris7214]

@@DarkraitheLoner that phrase doesn't show up in the newer games

[@huyle-ob8rg]

@@DarkraitheLoner probably because "gotta catch em all" is from western tv show, not in japan which is where pokemon was made.

[@nicholasmaddocks7545]

"I'm gonna go with Shadow." Kirito from SAO Abridged: YOU FOOL! YOU DOOMED US ALL!!!

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Kiritooooo

[@zebreacts9706]

"Why is it always a dead daughter?" Well if it makes you feel better, Mr. Freeze [Batman villain] is motivated by his dying/dead *wife*.

[@BJGvideos]

The gen 7 villain is motivated by her lost husband (yeah he's still alive but I don't know if she's aware of that)

[@theduckgoesmoo]

People have issues...

[@BuzryHaproMandalorianHunter]

“Impaled by a spoon?”. Tucker: Bow Chicka Bow Wow!

[@chefcircuit5392]

Shut up, tucker

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Booooo

[@BuzryHaproMandalorianHunter]

@@chefcircuit5392 Donut: I’m always down for a good spooning.

[@chefcircuit5392]

@@BuzryHaproMandalorianHunter Shut up!

[@kanseiyamazaru435]

If I remember correctly, some of the people working on DB really had it out for Shadow and did whatever they could to really drag him through the mud.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Oof

[@22kingdomheartsfan]

I remember hearing one of the hosts (Ben or Chad IDK who) themselves say they hate edgy characters, and Shadow counts as "edgy" to them.

[@Right_Bumper]

@@22kingdomheartsfanBen hates Silver

[@AutumnWoodham]

Man, after not seeing it for years and now having a much superior Shadow match up, I forgot how bad this fight was, from the animator half-assing the fight on purpose because he just did not care, and having Takahata101 voice him worse this time around on purpose because as an "Homage" to Shadow's voice in Adventure 2, and TOTALLY wasn't jumping on the rise of the Sonic Hate Bandwagon caused by a certain grump, and DEFINITELY wasn't a massive middle finger to fans. In short, this episode was a fucking joke, and an insulting one at that.

[@DieselWeasel]

I love how the Patreon e-mail must've suffered from autocorrect, because it said "Mentioned vs Shadow". XD

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Lol thats not surprising

[@SpencerBPD]

It did, can confirm

[@itsturniptime3699]

So, noteworthy thing of Death Battle The characters they put against each other are usually amalgamations of different incarnations of the same character So, Manga Mewtwo has giant spoon, anime Mewtwo can talk and mega evolve at will, and game Mewtwo just hits really really hard and is always mad but never really flies. Death Battle Mewtwo can do all of these. Also, basically any Pokémon that exists can be caught and used. There are a few exceptions like Eternamax Eternatus who is only a boss and doesn’t work outside of its boss fight because game stats and also it’s 328 feet long. For reference the Blue Whale is about 100 and is the largest animal to ever exist. There was also AZ’s Floette which is just a Floette with a different flower and an unused move attached to it. Never actually appeared in the games besides a cutscene.

[@BJGvideos]

And Mother Beast Lusamine, who's a pokemon/human hybrid and one of the most terrifying bosses in the series... ...until you realize you're fighting her pokemon as normal instead of her directly.

[@itsturniptime3699]

@@BJGvideos okay, she’s more complicated. Logically you’re meant to fight her directly, however because the devs feared people would hack in Lusamine for them selves to use, she was relegated as a Trainer instead. Would have liked to see what she could have hit us with though

[@BJGvideos]

@@itsturniptime3699 I know people hacked stuff like the Pokestar Studios opponents from BW2 so you have things like Giant Leg and other bizarrities. That's probably how they figured that people would do so. Ugh though, such a missed opportunity. Let us take our frustrations out on the second worst parent in the series!

[@itsturniptime3699]

@@BJGvideos Ah yes, my favourite Pokémon. White Door.

[@VOIDoftheZUN89]

If you mean capture Mewtwo in game an not trade then: Pokémon red, blue, yellow, fire red, leaf green, hearth gold, soul silver, x, y, omega ruby, alpha saphire, sun, moon, ultra sun, ultra moon and sword and shield(if you have the crown tundra DLC)

[@theduckgoesmoo]

I'm not sure if I played those a lot

[@obsidianwolf9966]

@@theduckgoesmoo there is also Pokémon GO

[@crcoghill]

6:32 yes. whatever game Mewtwo was in that had him be a wild Pokemon: he was caughtable. those games being: Red/Green/Blue/Yellow FireRed/LeafGreen HeartGold/SoulSilver X/Y UltraSun/UltraMoon Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee and Sword/Shield's Expansion Pack. there was also Pinball games, the Stadium games, Mystery Dungeons series, the Rumble series and some phone games. so... yeah. Mewtwo is a Pokemon so he can be caught. he is just a modified clone of Mew after all.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

So the games I played he wasn't possible to.... cool

[@TnT_F0X]

I think Shadow actually fought in Cell vs. I remember a joke about him being 'the blue one's Vegeta'

[@theduckgoesmoo]

I think so too lol

[@connorwood9211]

- Shadow is the Krillin of Death Battle. And he was voiced by Takahatta101 from TeamFourStar - Why did he have a gun? Cause EDGE! - The plot with the scientist trying to clone his dead daughter was actually cut out from the dub of the 1st Pokemon movie

[@locvo2050]

If you call him krillin, that means he gets a win in the end Well he does so yeah...

[@The_Blue_Otaku]

Didn't Takahatta101 also voice Nappa and Prefect Cell

[@connorwood9211]

@@The_Blue_Otaku along with Alucard from Hellsing Ultimate Abridged

[@locvo2050]

@@The_Blue_Otaku And Alucard

[@theinimitablejora522]

Ah, It’s time for the diet DuckGoesQuestionCorner! Not too many questions in Death Battles, typically. “What is that?” That’s RNA eating and splicing DNA. I’m not too good on cellular biology, so I’m not your guy, but it’s science. “What game is this?” This is Pokkén Tournament, a Pokémon fighting game made by the fine folks behind the Tekken series. Give it a try some time, it’s actually really good! “What kind of Maajin Buu thing is this…?” Remember Charizard’s whole “temporary mega transformation” thing? Mewtwo can activate that on its own and, depending on if you’re playing Pokémon X or Pokémon Y, you get a different Mega form. They just gave him the Y form in this Death Battle, which heavily skews his stat buffs on the special attack and speed- basically, amplifying the stuff that killed Shadow. “…gottem?” Gottem. “Was Mewtwo ever in a game where you could, like, catch him?” Yes, actually. The first games even. And plenty of others as well. Even in the ones you can’t catch him in, you can trade him in from the games you can. “50 years?” Yeah, Shadow can’t die unless killed. Natural causes ain’t catching him. “We’ve had Shadow in another one, right?” Yep. Vegeta slapped every inch of his shit. “Why does… he have a gun?” Ugh… one of many scourges of the Sonic franchise in the mid-2000’s. The video game known as Shadow the Hedgehog… one… of the WORST games… of all time. So edgy. So dumb. So contrived. So adding-aliens-to-Shadow’s-backstory-because-reasons. So GUNS. What a sour note to end the day’s DGQC on, huh? Oh well, Cid shall enter our lives on Monday. So Kyle, drink your GOOOOOOD DAAAAAMN TEA, alright? Stay classy out there.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Too fast for death... I like it

[@theinimitablejora522]

@@theduckgoesmoo Oh no, that’s actually the Flash. The Speedsters (the colloquial term for those granted access to the Speed Force) are so fast, the Grim Reaper can’t catch them, so the Black Flash was created just for them. No, I am not kidding.

[@markerikson7423]

HA "Scourges"

[@LittleZbot]

So, there's something very important about this show that you should know, but I don't think anybody has told you yet: the rules changed after Season 2. Actually, a lot of stuff changed. This is a pretty long, fairly important spiel, but if you want, you can just *skip to the TL;DR at the end.* So, Seasons 1 and 2 were more or less experiments by the company (which was then ScrewAttack) on a show, format, and idea that had never really been done before. The director, Ben Singer (who also voices Wiz), came up with the concept, pitched it, and was given the thumbs-up. A thumbs-up and very little money or time. He did almost the entirety of Season 1 by himself, often having random fun with non-serious battles like Goomba vs. Koopa or Justin Beiber vs. Rebecca Black. Each episode, he was given two weeks to research, write, animate, and edit the entire thing by himself. That's not exactly ideal working conditions, and led to a lot of inconsistencies and mistakes. Goku vs. Superman was the only one with a larger team, and even then, only for the animation. In Season 2, he was given a little more time and a much larger budget. Freelance Animators began to be hired for episodes, and he could even delegate some research to one or two other people. But it wasn't a real show with consistent rules, research, and writing yet. It was still not the best working conditions. There was a massive break between Seasons 2 and 3. During this break, Ben Singer was able to create a good schedule where multiple episodes could be worked on at once, gain the resources needed to hire on more staff, and completely revamp the format and rules of the show. Most 3D episodes from now on are done by the same guy and team, and most 2D animations are done by one of two animators. Every episode has a team of researchers that present their findings for review. In Seasons 1 & 2, who won was decided exclusively by Ben Singer based on his own understanding of the characters, with some intentional arguments from his co-host, Chad James. Season 3 onward, every bit of research is presented to the entire crew, and anywhere from 20-40 people sit in a room and argue every argument they can think of until the winner becomes unanimous. This has greatly lessened the amount of fights that are generally considered incorrect. They still use this method, and have revealed that some episodes have been completely finished, then suddenly delayed for weeks after somebody discovers something new or comes up with a new argument. The most important factor, however, is the overhaul in the Rules of Death Battle. In Seasons 1 & 2, they included all incarnations of a character combined into some composite form, all feats being equal. They focused on abilities a little more than stats. The winner was whoever would win the specific scenario they imagined (hence why you have lines in older episodes that refer specifically to the animation and none of the other ways this fight could have gone). Season 3 onward, the primary purpose of an episode is to determine this one question: If these characters were to fight a thousand times, which one would win more often? Their new rules are as follows: *- Combatants possess no prior knowledge of each other unless specified by canon or otherwise.* This is an important one, as many characters have very specific weaknesses that their opponent would never normally think to exploit. A good example would be Superman. Nobody outside of his universe (or others with a Superman) would know that he was weak to kryptonite, and as such would not seek to exploit that weakness. The "unless" is equally important. If they were to do Batman vs. Superman, Batman would certainly know of that weakness, and would seek to exploit it, because that's a canonical part of his character. The "otherwise" this rule refers to is talking about characters with mind-reading or great detective skills, or something to that effect. It wouldn't be right to say that Mewtwo can't find out about Shadow's weaknesses in this episode just because of this rule. Reading minds and discovering weaknesses is what Mewtwo's all about. *- To ensure a fair fight, all moral restraints from killing are ignored. All other traits are considered.* This is a battle to the death, and should be treated as such. Characters aren't going to go into a bloodlust, and they still retain their personalities and other moral characteristics (such as wishing to fight their opponent only when he's at his best) but they'll have no hesitations about ending their life when given the chance. *- A character's maximum potential is examined unless otherwise specified. Factors unrelated to the characters cannot end the battle.* This is sort of a two-in-one rule. First, they look at the maximum potential a character has throughout their story in terms of combat capability. For many characters, there are moments when they lost to someone they have no business losing to because of plot, or maybe a mountain-shaking tornado robot gets taken out by a single bullet _cough cough._ That stuff isn't counted. They're taking these guys at their strongest. The "unless otherwise specified" line, however, provides an exception to this. For example, Captain America's strongest was technically when he wielded the Infinity Gauntlet. So should they give him the Infinity Gauntlet? No! That'd be REALLY dumb. Nobody wants to see him fighting with the Infinity Gauntlet - they want to know if CAPTAIN AMERICA can beat Batman. An alternate universe version of Alfred, Batman's butler, once used a pill to enhance his body to Superman's level. Would we count that? No. That's not the character everyone wants to see fighting. Those aren't their powers. That's not who they are. "Unless otherwise specified" is an essential line in this rule. Second, it's stated that factors unrelated to a character cannot end the battle. Notice that this is not a "no outside help" rule. Outside help is fine - but only if it's an essential and consistent part of their arsenal. Jiraya has the ability to summon toads to fight for him. That's an essential and consistent part of his arsenal. That does not break this rule. But if he were to send a message to Naruto (his student and the main character of the show Jiraya is from) and tell him to come fight, too, then that would break this rule. We want to know if Jiraya can beat whoever he is fighting, not Naruto. This rule also prevents the environment from forcing a death. The environment is an outside factor, and unless it's adjusted so that one character can use all their powers (such as making it near water so that Katara can waterbend, making the arena an abandoned building so Batman can use stealth, or having the fight in a desert so Gaara has a consistent supply of sand to fight with) it shouldn't be what decides the winner. How dumb would it be to say "Well, Batman outmatches this random guy off the street in every way, but he loses the Death Battle because they decided there happened to be a vat of acid directly underneath him"? *- All official material related to a character is applied unless found contradictory to original source material.* So, basically, any material that's officially recognized is up for grabs, but only if it doesn't contradict what's shown about the character in canon. Batman's main canon is the comics, for example, but they can and will measure and apply all noteworthy feats from the TV Shows and Movies. But if something in those contradicts the official material (e.g. if Batman is shown to breathe in space in an episode of an old TV Show, or magically holds off Superman with brute strength) then it won't be applied. Another decent example is the Sonic Universe. They can take into account things like the TV Shows, Movies, gamebooks, related comics, and spin-off games, but can't take into account basically anything from the Archie Sonic comics, since those are totally different characters with totally different powers. So, yeah, things are way more profession now. *_TL;DR: Season 3 gave the show more researchers, a way better way of picking winners, and a revamp of the rules. People don't know who people are at first, everyone has their regular personality but is now fine with killing, people are at their strongest when they fight but can't randomly win because of environment or calling someone else to fight, and the researchers look at everything in the bonus material for people, but throw feats out the window if they contradict the original character._* Oh, and, uh, the fight itself is just a fun extra. It doesn't determine the winner. They usually figure that out way before animation even begins. Hoped some of this helps!

[@theduckgoesmoo]

That is awesome! How did you find all of this out? Thats insane that Ben did it all himself for so long and its awesome that they have group debates now!

[@LittleZbot]

@@theduckgoesmoo They have a weekly podcast that's been running since mid-Season 3 (shortly before the upcoming Hulk vs Doomsday) where they nerd out, talk about random matchups that are requested and may or may not happen, show some behind-the-scenes stuff, and answer questions. I've been following it since Day 1, and this is some of the stuff they talk about. Most of the time if you hear some claim about the writers or crew (such as Dante vs. Bayonetta being the dream fight of the 3D Animator, Donatello being the director's favorite ninja turtle, certain episodes where the writer admits he got it wrong), nine times out of ten all the extra information comes from this podcast. It's honestly really cool. I find it hilarious that for this episode you said "I feel like this won't matter" regarding Shadow's memory loss, and it was the deciding factor of the fight. Don’t worry, a lot of people got this one wrong when watching. Some try to dispute it by bringing up the time Black Shadow failed to mind-control Shadow, completely ignoring that Gerald had made Shadow to resist this very specific style of mind-control on a genetic level, and EVEN THEN he was still almost taken over by it. He must have anti-resistence to mind manipulation. It works way too effectively every one of the dozens of times it's used on him.

[@Dario-uj6qo]

​@@LittleZbotunless Shadow is considered a dark type, wich by the Pokémon rules it would change everything

[@tvftw1]

3:04 "Oh yeah, I remember this" Given everything I've seen on this channel...I sincerely doubt that That whole 10 minute segment with Amber was cut from the initial english release and was included as a special feature on the dvd for a later Mewtwo-centric special

[@theduckgoesmoo]

I had the DVD and we would watch it in the car on long road trips

[@mothified1676]

Mewtwo of the Pokemon adventures manga is incredibly cool. He's also more restrained. See, it has Blaine's DNA in it and when he becomes agitated, exhausted, ir whenever he gets too far from Blaine, his DNA gets unstable because theh have some sort of connection or something. So Blaine's the ONLY ONE who can be the trainer of Mewtwo

[@isabeauwolf562]

Mewtwo and Shadow were my childhood! The reason Shadow has a gun was from the "Shadow The Hedgehog" game for ps2 and game cube. Which I still have. The music is amazing and depending on your choices has multiple endings and songs.

[@ChikinNugget76]

Imagine dying to a comically large spoon

[@kbennett365]

I think if I recall this death battle was literally made to just shit on shadow, considering he has 3 battles total as well.

[@DIEFORME173]

Exactly

[@DieselWeasel]

4:38 - That would be Pokkén Tournament DX.

[@itsturniptime3699]

Actually I think it’s just original Pokken Tournament

[@artistanthony1007]

He has a Gun because he lost Chaos Spear which debuted in SA2 Battle because of that fall but guns are only in gameplay even though optional and not canon, the reason why it's in the OP is to show the two canon Routes of his game, Dark and Neutral which you can see he rides his bike looking at the bird Black Arms flying above him but with a cautious look, shows signs of evil and is well....neutral.

[@Caruto]

Nurse: "Doctor shadow is dead" Doctor: " How did he die?!" Nurse: " He got spooned" Doctor: " Good Lord, who could have done such a thing?" Nurse: " Sir it has a tail and can walk on two legs, it's a" Doctor: "Dang you freezer!!!" Nurse: " Sir it's a pokèmon" Doctor: "Oh.. Dang you discount Freezer!!!"

[@luisrosales3430]

Ohhhh i get it😂😂😂😂

[@hrafnknutsson2859]

the games came first the show and movies after so yes you can capture mewtwo and use him on your team

[@huntersmith561]

Mewtwo has 2 mega forms depending on which pokemon game you are playing

[@sohammitra1951]

Which mega form is stronger?

[@zeroknight2718]

4:37 That game was Pokken, a pokemon fighting game on the nintendo switch.

[@CrepR-351]

And Just like Charizard, Mewtwo also has two seperate Mega Evolutions (Mega Mewtwo X being one of them)

[@CommanderM117]

It would be cool if OG Mewtwo was Mega X buuut hes likely stronger

[@JShepLord]

The game is called Pokken Tournament. It's a pokemon fighting game.

[@sethgibson5148]

I'm kinda happy you got this wrong, mostly because I dont want the win/lose to have a giant gap in between them. And I definitely agree with this one. And honestly I don't remember anything about the next death battle you'll be watching. So I can actually guess with you.

[@Dark-mi9ks]

You agree That mewtwo beats Shadow your a fool.Shadow is multiversal in base and has infinite speed

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Seth didn't you like the losing streak???

[@sethgibson5148]

@@theduckgoesmoo it was funny because of the punch you would give yourself if you got 20 losses first. But it's not like I wanted 40 losses and 19 wins or anything. If anything I'd want another losing streak just for the L to catch up. But realistically I'd want the win/lose to be like 4 or 5 apart. Hopefully this made since.

[@sethgibson5148]

@@Dark-mi9ks Shadow is not multiversal, and he can only got the speed of light as super shadow. And being physically invincible doesn't mean his mind is, which mewtwo used to beat him.

[@b.a.r.f1004]

@@Dark-mi9ks depends on the version of shadow

[@Xeroxthebeautiful]

4:38 That's Pokken a 3D Pokemon fighting game made Namco the same company that makes Tekken released on the Wii U and Switch as well as Japanese arcades. It's actually pretty good.

[@RuneTacticss]

Yeah, this fight is generally considered really bad, along with the episode as a whole. It's also one of the many Death Battles that were unfortunately researched wrong, as Shadow would generally win

[@SufferingSuccotash]

The animator was suffering burnout from animating fights around this time

[@22kingdomheartsfan]

The research was bad, but my god, the animation was just..... so bad. And the voice of Shadow? Taka what the hell man?

[@tristanthewalrus7496]

@@22kingdomheartsfan apparently he was straight up told to act bad to mimic the bad Sonic voice acting back then. Not sure if it is legit or not, but it would explain a lot.

[@22kingdomheartsfan]

@@tristanthewalrus7496 I don't care the reason, the bad voice is just..... No. And if anything, THAT is WORSE then any bad voice acting from Sonic.

[@schakiarligonde1736]

Nope mewtwo wins

[@Charadoesthatgaming]

And shadow died from a comically large spoon

[@AutumnWoodham]

the "armor thing" was made to suppress Mewtwo's psychic power, with Giovanni saying it was "Focusing' it instead.

[@mothified1676]

Also, I think logically (or at least I try, becasue it helps me to remember them) about the weaknesses and strengths of pokemon. So bugs against psychic. I imagine Psychics need concentration and bugs can interrupt that. Like, I like some bugs and beetles are cool, but if one flies by my ear, it's buzz gets to my core and gives me the jitters for some reason. Imagine being a psychic and having to deal with THAT

[@rodrickgoldberg2324]

I think the reason for psychic type weaknesses are based on common phobias and how fear can affect ones mind. Three big phobia being bugs, ghosts, and the dark.

[@trashpanda3172]

They just make shadow lose to everyone huh 🤧☹

[@tyreeharris7214]

Have you watched the one where he fights ryuko from kill a kill

[@DIEFORME173]

@@tyreeharris7214 redemption episode

[@ViewerOnline101]

Yes, Mewtwo for sure. His psychic power was just far too great.

[@DIEFORME173]

No not reality been debunked multiple times

[@smugsneasel]

14:05 They were appealing to edgy teens at the time, Kyle. It was horrible.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Soundsmith would like to have a word

[@gogetablack5384]

Can you please react to episodes outside of the playlists as there will be many good, and have been many good episodes you missed because they aren't there. I suggest locking in the Death Battle fandom wiki as all the episodes are listed in order after when they are released.

[@fireball1249]

Yes pls

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Some of them are left off on purpose

[@BJGvideos]

Honestly I'd compare the lake to Crater Lake, what with the island in it. Also they missed how Mewtwo somehow showed up in feudal Japan in the game Pokémon Conquest. So either it can time travel or Conquest, a game that involves actual real people from Japanese history (the goal is to defeat Nobunaga), somehow takes place in modern day.

[@huntersmith561]

Mega forms are from pokemon x & y & omega ruby and alpha sapphire

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Ive never played any of those

[@huntersmith561]

@@theduckgoesmoo well I think you should now

[@brokencannon9174]

Gotta finish the trilogy! Shadow vs ryuko is next up, and then you get to have your brain melted by kill la kill

[@DieselWeasel]

I definitely agree with this one. The "ultimate lifeform" versus a genetic clone of what is essentially a god. Better luck in the next one!

[@Dark-mi9ks]

This is wrong Shadow has infinite speed and is multiversal in base there’s no way Mewtwo wins

[@kahanuermeyas-tulu4056]

@@Dark-mi9ks Incorrect, Shadow in his super form is only multi universal. While his base is solar system. Stop highballing him to his Archie Sonic version’s level of power.

[@KEEPTALKIN8215]

Yeah shadow should win

[@Dark-mi9ks]

@@kahanuermeyas-tulu4056 Idiot He’s atleast Universal because of Erazor Djinn who Sonic beat with 1% of his life force.And he scales above Solaris who was Going to collapse everything into nothingness including maginary world which is 6D.And he’s stronger then infinite who is the strongest Sonic villain and Shadow is stronger then infinite in his base form

[@Dark-mi9ks]

@@kahanuermeyas-tulu4056 Also said by you Someone who thinks Super sonic last for only 50 seconds

[@terrynasonisasupervillain9017]

Nice video

[@delite3400]

My childhood destroyed your childhood.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

My childhood was mewtwo though

[@delite3400]

@@theduckgoesmoo Ehhh? I misunderstood then, but isn't Mewtwo already enough mature? Lol

[@Kadeda]

I think they put to much emphasis on mewtwos durability and not enough on shadows speed and power. Also, Shadow wouldn't just stand there and let someone hit him even if he didn't have his memories. This is another one that they got really wrong. Mewtwo has no chance against Shadow.

[@DIEFORME173]

Yeah

[@b.a.r.f1004]

actually mewtwo is really smart, and also he can erase all his memories, bro if you had your memories erased you woldn't know how to react because you literally don't know

[@b.a.r.f1004]

also plz don't use the term "no chance" when you are talking with a mid-high intelligence level

[@theomnigamer9177]

@b.a.r.f1004 Let me run down the plot of Sonic 06 in a simple and single sentence (despite it being trash). All the characters are being played like fiddles because of a character named Mephiles, except for Shadow. That’s all you need to know. Everything was going to be easy for him, if it weren’t for Shadow knowing he was going to be played like the other characters in the story. However Mephiles still accomplished his goal and became a celestial being thanks to the other characters being gullible. When 1 can damage a celestial being, I think you can take down Mewtwo. Especially when said celestial being can, and I quote “Eat dimensions for lunch”.

[@catxborsuq1]

4:32 "Is that like Deoxys or something?" Yes. Those are pictures from the Pokemon Adventures manga (or Pokemon Special in Japanese), which is AMAZING. Like, really, this is THE best medium of Pokemon ever. Even the creator of Pokemon had stated that this manga is "the closest to the world he had imagined". I cannot recommend it highly enough! Anybody who is a fan of Pokemon should give this a read, and people who aren't but are manga readers in general should get around to it, too, because it's that good. Those particular pictures are from FireRed & LeafGreen saga. You see, this series is divided by sagas: first is Red, Green and Blue, covering adventures of Red, his rival Green (or Blue in official English translation; as Pokemon Green game never came outside of Japan, so they changed the rival's name to Blue; consequences of which ruin an amazing stupid joke Mewtwo, of all beings, makes in the Fire & LeafGreen saga years later), and mischievous girl named Blue (Green in official English), then it's the Yellow saga, focusing on Yellow, then we go to Johto with Gold, Silver, and later Crystal, next is Ruby and Sapphire (which is my personal favorite and I actually own physical copy), FireRed and LeafGreen, Emerald, Diamond and Pearl, Platinum, OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire, and so on. The story keeps evolving in the manga, not just sticking to an eternally 10 year old character, each saga focuses on different set of characters, with the old ones occasionally popping up (with one or two particularly feeling like Avengers styled crossovers!), remains MOSTLY faithful to the events from the games (I still cannot forgive the anime how they butchered Team Magma and Aquas' storyline... and don't get me started on BW series!), and is far more mature than the anime... well "far" might be too much, it still keeps this "kid friendly" feel for most of the time, and the anime does occasionally cover mature stuff (like the 1001st episode, which was just WOW 0_0). Seriously, give it a read, I promise you won't be disappointed. Admittedly, it takes a volume or two to get to the really good stuff (as I said, my personal favorite are Ruby and Sapphire saga, but the previous ones are awesome too), but once you finish the first saga (which is only 4 volumes - 40 chapters - long), you will want to know what happens next^^ PS: Hope I didn't ramble too much, I can get very passionate about this manga. I think I talk about it on my blog to my readers (I write fanfiction, long and unrelated story) every few months about how amazing it is ^^;

[@BlahBlahWoofWoof12]

Always trust your gut, Kyle. This is what happens when you don't believe in yourself.

[@CommanderM117]

I just have to say some of the MewTwos facts come from Other MewTwos. the First MewTwo from Mwetwo Strikes back and Return is nearly God like in Power. MewTwo from Genesect and the Legend Awakened can lift a lake and go Mega and that it. the First Mewtwo could mind control create Storms and Erase Memories . also the Mewtwo from Reds Adventure is similar to the first but is more an Animal then the First Movies MewTwo hence why it got captured in a pokeball.

[@funny9able]

Duck Streak that was Pokken Tournament a fighting game but with Pokémon. I wish they brought more Pokémon or a sequel. To anyone reading this what is the best mega? Mewtwo X or Mewtwo Y? 24 W 19 L (1In A Roll)

[@SyxxPunk]

Honestly, for me, I like Mega Mewtwo X over Y, but that's because I like the idea of the bulkiness and the adding of the Fighting type. Even if it makes them really weak against Ghost, Flying, and Fairy types, the elimination of the weakness of Bug and Dark types are a huge up.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

I like the original

[@Xeroxthebeautiful]

The whole Amber section of the movie was just straight up cut in the English version so not many people in North America know about it

[@kumaJoru]

Fun fact: the whole coma daughter subplot was completely cut out of the dub even the first movie remake

[@CommanderM117]

the Heresy

[@BJGvideos]

Until they put it on the Mewtwo Returns home release.

[@donniehamilton7797]

The pokemon fighting game is Pokken tournament

[@AnimatedDude420]

Hey, if you ever react to the "Ben 10 vs Green lantern" that battle is kinda wrong, but that's if you ever see it, the Ink tank kinda explains why

[@DementisXYZ]

VA Fun Fact! So, to start this one off, I've got a fun fact for you unrelated to this particular video. Mewtwo, in the original movie, credited as being voiced by Philip Bartlett. In 2001, it was believed he had died. Turns out (I just learned this while trying to look up his name because I couldn't remember) he is still alive and was using an Alias. His actual name was Jay Goede, but regardless of his living status, he did not return to play Mewtwo in the sequel "Mewtwo Returns," which is a movie I highly recommend watching. In the sequel, Mewtwo's voice was actually taken over by 4Kids VA, Dan Green. You would know this voice best as the voice of Yugi Moto in original show, Yu-Gi-Oh. He plays both Yugi and Yami (The Pharaoh). Also, tying this back into this video in a fun way, Dan would also end up voicing the character Knuckles the Echidna from the Sonic Franchise from 2004-2008. Now the fun facts for THIS video! Mewtwo is voiced by Chris "Kirbopher" Niosi. Voice of Noah in Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged, and animator for LittleKuriboh and TeamFourStar (and Terrain of Magical Expertise). Shadow (And I know you're gonna love this one) is Curtis "Takahata101" Arnott. Pretty sure I don't need to list his credits off at this point.

[@DementisXYZ]

Bonus Fun Fact completely unrelated to anything here: Since I got my finances in order, I've now officially, as of 20 minutes ago, become a Patron.

[@fireball1249]

Bonus Bonus Fun Fact: Not sure if Kyle noticed, but Shadow's voice was off and didn't sound right. That was actually on purpose. It was a reference to a Sonic Game that I've never heard of and apparently, it had some terrible voice acting, including Shadow.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

I appreciate you becoming an insane patron my guy! I love those fun facts and how dare they kill Alucard

[@arthurwatson2555]

I see one of my favorite characters coming soon

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Which is??

[@arthurwatson2555]

@@theduckgoesmoo Ramona Flowers in Ramona vs Amy

[@christophercollier5737]

So will the cammy vs sonya be next time or will that just be in a week?

[@theduckgoesmoo]

That'll be next!

[@cybersonic8472]

As for Shadow with a gun and motorcycle. It was his spinoff game and it was horrible because when you are a living weapon and you run faster than bullets why use a gun

[@cedricgiyo9666]

Yes, you can catch him in gen 1 3 7 and 8

[@Umbran_Alex]

You forgot gen 6

[@cedricgiyo9666]

@@Umbran_Alex oh omega and alpha. Right

[@robertstepney8560]

Mewtwo used to stable he use that move to disable Shadows mind. And That's how Mewtwo got the advantage to win!

[@Dario-uj6qo]

Question, would Shadow be a dark type? Because if so....

[@ILikeCHEEZ9]

2:14 Dr Gero broke the combo with 16

[@Trilaan]

I was in my 20s when Heelys came out. I was so jealous of those kids.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Dude you can buy light up adult sized heelys TODAY

[@Trilaan]

@@theduckgoesmoo New shoes, here I come!

[@cybersonic8472]

So I'm undecided on this match. While Mewtwo has the ability to wipe Shadows mind Shadow moves at light speed and can travel through time I don't know if that will work. Also even though Shadow has had his memory scrambled multiple times he never looses the abilities that are hardwired into him. They seem almost instinctual.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Thats what I was thinking too

[@sohammitra1951]

Yeah but.. Mewtwo can literally control your body and mind like a puppet, it won't work

[@22kingdomheartsfan]

@@sohammitra1951 Shadow's immune to brainwashing though. Mewtwo can't brainwash Shadow if he's immune to it. And if you are wondering when he got immune to it: His video game. THe final boss literally says he's immune to brainwashing

[@22kingdomheartsfan]

In my opinion: Shadow should be able to move at FTL (At most) with Super Form, so he should be frankly too fast for Mewtwo to pull out his mind wiping powers. And while I do not agree with the whole universal stuff (Its debatable) for Shadow, he should be at least in the solar system regions, making him more then a match for Mewtwo. And as you said, Shadow can still fight with out his memories, so Shadow won't go "WHY AM I GLOWING!!!?!?!?" he'd still attack and finish Mewtwo off.

[@sohammitra1951]

@@22kingdomheartsfan well if shadow is completely immune to mental/psychic attacks, then it's a different issue otherwise no matter how strong and fast he is shadow cannot win

[@huntersmith561]

Plus that game was pokken tournament

[@VirtueCry]

14:08 "Why does he have a gun?" Because the Sonic franchise is 80% bad ideas

[@Spark_Guerra]

No its not

[@mrroboshadow]

and the other ideas cant be used cause of a petty lawsuit

[@LOK_Dev]

You could literally catch mewtwo in the original game lol, it was basically the final boss.

[@BJGvideos]

Well, post-game boss

[@theduckgoesmoo]

I didnt play the original game much

[@MyAbridged]

As a rule if a fighter has telepathic abilities and it's opponent has none, nor any form of defense against them, the psychic will win. Same with reality warpers. Shadow is faster and stronger but has no immunity to psychic attack, it's no different to someone like Goku, on paper Mewtwo should be able to defeat him simply based on the fact that Goku has no written in immunity to psychic attack.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Noted from now on

[@22kingdomheartsfan]

Goku has dealt with psychic based attacks though. He saw through an illusion in the original Dragon Ball, he's battled against guys with telekinisis and mind reading powers (He himself has the power to read minds, he shown he can do that on Namek when he first got there) and brainwashing doesn't work on him and even if it did, Goku can power though it like Vegeta did with his. And yes. Goku defeats Mewtwo in EVERY SINGLE sense of the word. Mewtwo would not be able to pull off his "mind erasing powers", as Goku has not only a powerful mind, he would be FAR too fast. Mewtwo can't erase someone's memory if he can't track them, or getting hammered on by Goku who would land several blows on him, before Mewtwo can even process the thought of "I should erase his memory".

[@22kingdomheartsfan]

Also: Shadow does have immunity to psychic attacks. He's immune to brainwashing, as stated in Shadow the Hedgehog by the final boss

[@luisrosales3430]

3.00 wheres this from?

[@ryokeatoyomi3977]

cammy vs sonya is after meta vs carolina.

[@xviza9000]

Mewtwo should teach other psychic types how to SPOON

[@huntersmith1943]

red, blue, green, and maybe yellow

[@enchantedlightbringer]

Death battle knows how to make the fans salty ngl.

[@cedricgiyo9666]

Fun act: ash would be unstoppable if he would just call Mewtwo. Mewtwo told him to do so.

[@datkhornedog899]

Or if Ash can remember it.

[@communitygamer117]

Shadow would just blitz Mewtwo. He's much faster than his perception speed. Also the time stop would neg him too. Although they definitely downplayed Mewtwo. He has much better scaling. Even normal Pokémon can dodge the move Flash. Which is literally light.

[@Dark-mi9ks]

TRUE

[@Dark-mi9ks]

Also Shadow is multiversal in base and has infinite speed

[@boxinthejack2166]

I feel like they made this episode exclusively to shit on Shadow

[@Rippen_Crippen]

Yea, thankfully they treated Shadow better in Shadow vs Ryuko

[@King-ze2kt]

They actually did

[@sohammitra1951]

But it's valid, mewtwo can completely brainwash shadow although shadow is stronger and faster

[@Dark-mi9ks]

@@sohammitra1951 No not really Shadow can counter Mewtwos mind control and Can speed blitz Mewtwo faster then he can think

[@boxinthejack2166]

@@sohammitra1951 They told Shadow’s voice actor in this episode to make him sound bad on purpose, and they didn’t even bother to finish some of the backgrounds.

[@ClarkJKent]

Please watch Ratchet and Clank vs Jak and Daxter Death Battle

[@donniehamilton7797]

They forgot shadows ultimate weapon GUN

[@theduckgoesmoo]

America intensifies

[@championofunityantarctica8232]

My second favorite pokemon vs my favorite hedgehog

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Lol something about having a favorite hedgehog is funny to me

[@brandonwong8614]

Personally think shadow should've cause he's way more faster, and when shadow chaos controls it would of been way faster than the animation showed it to be, dude was holding saying chaos control like if a dragon ball character was doing a kamehameha.

[@rotciv557]

Mewtwo can also just instantly teleport around wherever he wants to though, and Mewtwo is both sturdy enough to last a bit in a close up fight and smart enough to teleport out of the fight at the first opportunity given, brew up a plan, then teleport back to Shadow and finish him off before he gets got. Then he would just stall with his barriers until his memory attack got Shadow.

[@Dark-mi9ks]

@@rotciv557 Well no Because Shadow has infinite speed and would Speed blitz him Shadow also has infinite reaction time.And even if Mewtwo erased his memory Shadow would continue to fight because we have seen him fight people with his memory erased.And instant TP doesn’t matter if your not fast enough to use it

[@jacksonvoet8312]

@@Dark-mi9ks Yeah, uh, infinite speed and reaction time isn’t a thing, if Mario can beat sonic pretty easily, than mewtwo’s mind wipe could most likely hit, and he can erase the nerves needed to breathe and pump his heart. You need to remember, Shadow is SLOWER than Sonic, at heart, Shadow is a faker. He was built after the prophesied fight between super sonic and eggman. Shadow is far from multiversal. Sonic, his more powerful rival, is barely universal. I do agree that they underestimated Shadow due to the problems of Sonic 06.

[@williamhiegel2756]

I’m glowing! Why am I growing?

[@sharzinlalebazri5673]

Although I can't argue with the result, this episode was absolutely a spite match. Takahata 101 was specifically told to give Shadow a stupid voice and they didn't even let him get too many hits in or act in character during the animation itself. I think both Mewtwo and Shadow had instant kill options (mind control and Chaos Control respectively) but since Shadow must say the words "Chaos Control" but Mewteo can control minds instantly, it ironically has faster access to it's instant kill option so I'm not mad about the result.

[@catxborsuq1]

Yeah, when they first announced this battle I had thought: "Um, wouldn't it make more sense to use Silver? They're both psychics and would make the fight more even..." but they had gone with the whole thing that they are similar because they were created, which indeed does make sense except one is clearly superior in combat.

[@Dark-mi9ks]

Shadow would still win though he can counter Mewtwos hax and can run at infinite speed.If Mewtwo can’t think faster than infinite speed or atleast 10000000 times the Speed of Light than Shadow wins

[@22kingdomheartsfan]

Mewtwo CAN'T do that in an instant, and he certainly can't erase Shadows WHOLE memory in an instant. If anything, Shadow can say Chaos Control quicker then Mewtwo think "Oh I should read his mind and then erase his memory". Shadow would not go "CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (10 anime episodes later OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS CONTROL!!!" He can do it a hell of a lot quicker then that. Not to mention, Shadow should be AT LEAST Solar System level and FTL in Super form, which is enough to beat Mewtwo in stats. Mewtwo can't erase memories if he's being hammered on by someone far faster then him

[@Dark-mi9ks]

@@22kingdomheartsfan TRUEEE

[@Dark-mi9ks]

@@22kingdomheartsfan Since this answer is SO GOOD Can you tell me where you scale Shadow and if I disagree you can tell me wether or not I can explain my reasoning and debate you on your stance but you don’t have to😁

[@thothunter4971]

I agree with this one xd Mostly because mewtwo was literally made for combat And if they use the manga as reference, Mewtwo is a ridiculously powerful being

[@Dark-mi9ks]

Not stronger then Shadow

[@thothunter4971]

@@Dark-mi9ks as I see it, not more powerfull but definitely stronger There are not many abilities more powerfull than chaos wave, chaos control, etc.

[@Dark-mi9ks]

@@thothunter4971 idk what your saying but nothing Mewtwo has compares to Shadow

[@rotciv557]

@@Dark-mi9ks Memory attack + Teleport him to space. Shadow chokes out unable to do anything while Mewtwo sips tea in his cave while studying the Chaos Emeralds.

[@thothunter4971]

@@Dark-mi9ks ok it obvious that this discussion is going to nowhere because you did not get the point and I am not a fanboy of any franchise. So have a good day man, drink plenty of water and stay safe in this troublesome times (honestly).

[@mcpics4448]

Don’t worry their mega mewtwo x form if you hate the y one

[@helios_is_my_name]

Personally disagree with this one. Shadow should really one shot and blitz imo. Even if mewtwo got off the memory erasure (which as far as I remember it's never even used it in combat, as well as mind control, see the entrie genesect movie and the sequel to the first movie with giovanni) it wouldn't matter because instinct is a thing, shadow would still try to fight when he realises he's being attacked and proceed to one shot. At least they didn't try to argue planet level mewtwo, never understood how that's a thing.

[@Dark-mi9ks]

Yeah and Shadow is multiversal IN base and has infinite speed

[@jjspaceluigi5906]

The outcome of this battle made me mad, but I see why it happened.

[@roboticminer8843]

By all accounts Shadow should have won.

[@DIEFORME173]

True

[@CoolPlayersVic]

And even if he didn't they just did him dirty in this fight

[@roboticminer8843]

@@CoolPlayersVic indeed.

[@csk7769]

Never showing up in Dragon Ball Super means that Cell does not scale to anything good, and thus Shadow would fold Cell into pieces. Every Dragon Ball character that does show up in Super would eat the hedgehog for breakfast though. Unless you bring in the Archie Sonic comics but that's another headache

[@Dark-mi9ks]

No Game Shadow is High multiversal in base and has infinite speed and is 6D

[@kahanuermeyas-tulu4056]

@@Dark-mi9ks Lol, nice high balling fanboy.

[@Dark-mi9ks]

@@kahanuermeyas-tulu4056 Says the one who ran away from me when I started to corner you

[@RookMeAmadeus]

14:05 - Why does he have a gun? Simple. Like Wiz said, the worst game ever happened.

[@mechatar1051]

Day 10 of asking for Game theorists FNaF (Not that you care) Heres my ranking of the 8 mainline (no side games) FNaF games 8. FNaF 3 7. Ultimate Custom Night 6/5(tie). FNaF 4 and Freddy Fazbears Pizzeria Simulator(FNaF6) 4. FNaF original 3. FNaF 2 2. FNaF VR Help Wanted 1. FNaF Sister Location(FNaF 5)

[@theduckgoesmoo]

But pain

[@hallofguns8174]

Look up Mega Mewtwo X, it looks way cooler than Y.

[@rna151]

"Why does he have a gun?" Ow, the edge. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIG6o3uGg8qerKc Sega thought this would be popular for some reason.

[@keyblademasterct2]

Pfft, he thinks he has one of those XD

[@theduckgoesmoo]

One of what

[@keyblademasterct2]

@@theduckgoesmoo A childhood =|

[@22kingdomheartsfan]

I just found this, and I'm so sorry you watched this disgusting abomination. In my opinion the research was done VERY badly, but even ignoring the research, the fight was just... Just awful. Mewtwo's voice was.... Okay? Shadow's voice was trash. The fight.... Was garbage, the animation wasn't even finished, and the ending was stupid. This was a middle finger to Mewtwo and Shadow fans. Its an insult to Shadow fans for obvious reasons, and an insult to Mewtwo for not giving him a proper fight. I highly suggest you check out "Fatal Conflict Shadow vs Mewtwo" over on the Rewind Rumble channel. Fatal Conflict is a zero research show, so results don't matter, but the fight on that channel is INFINITALLY BETTER then this.... This death battle doesn't even have the right to be called a "fight".

[@ZombifiedBuizel]

These comments hurt to read. I mean the ones from the Sonic fanboys. They clearly don't understand psychic abilities. I don't know much Sonic lore so I can't say anything to it but I do know Pokèmon. If Shadow does have an immunity to mind manipulation that still doesn't save him from psychic attacks or mind reading (it's not manipulation). Mewtwo could literally rip him apart with a mere thought. Since Shadow's Chaos Power abilities seem to be incantation based (have to say a phrase to activate) they can be rendered useless simply by rendering Shadow unable to speak. Also I seem to recall him needing an emerald to even use them. Either way Shadow stood no chance. Strength and speed do not win fights. Intelligence and wisdom do. With that being said Mew could even beat Shadow probably with even less effort as Mew can do what Mewtwo can and then some as Mew can learn any and all moves.

[@TheUnknownZ990]

YOU HAVE A CHILDHOOD?!?

[@caganegeakisik69]

Watch lazy purples how it feels serise

[@Ozionian]

I wanna say- I personally main Mewtwo in Smash Ultimate. As much as I adore Mewtwo, Pokémon that aren't Arceus don't usually win Death Battles. Usually. Who knows lmaoo

[@CommanderM117]

the thing is Movie Mewtwo is not the same as Game Mewtwo sure same origin but power lvl and abilities are different. Mega Mewtwo Y is not the same Mewtwo from the first 2 movies it is in fact a different Mewtwo likely cloned after the first left different voices 1 male 1 female. I think maybe OG Mewtwo is about as Strong as Arceus or close

[@Dark-mi9ks]

@@CommanderM117 Your such a Pokemon fan boy

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Arceus is INSANE

[@CommanderM117]

@@Dark-mi9ks no I am A Digimon Sonic/Shadow Pokemon fan in that Order maybe throw Yu gi oh in as well

[@Dark-mi9ks]

@@CommanderM117 Well you don’t know anything about Sonic and Shadow who are Faster than Mewtwo and could kill him before he can think

[@NateTmi]

I think u are right to say shadow is stronger but mew2 can change your memory by deleting at least part of it. We don't know how long the memory would stay gone in the long term but in a fight to kill mind reading & memory deleting powers even with the limits mew2 has are very OP to removing powers so he only needs to survive something 1 time to know what to target. Where as shadow has no power of the mind & no power to ward off such powers. (that I know of) So when shadow had to learn some of his powers & mew2 was just born with them all that means shadow could forget his powers & die B4 he could recover the memory of how to use his powers

[@22kingdomheartsfan]

Shadow's immune to brainwashing. He was shown to be immune to it in his video game "Shadow the Hedgehog", as you see during his fight against the final boss Black Doom. Black Doom literally says that he's immune to brainwashing And Mewtwo can only do that in the anime, not the video games, and in the anime, Mewtwo hasn't shown he can erased someone's ENTIRE life story in the span of 2 seconds. Took Mewtwo at least a full minute to erased just the memories of him. And even so, Shadow had his memories gone in Sonic Heroes, and he still could fight.

[@NateTmi]

@@22kingdomheartsfan all they would need to delete is how to use the chaos emeralds, that is not alot of memory to target & it only needs to be gone for lone enough to kill shadow. I did not know about the game power u speak of. death battle likes to use powers from both games & anime that they find, even when they don't have the power in one but they have it in the other. a shame they missed that power, shadow needs that in this fight

[@22kingdomheartsfan]

@@NateTmi And Mewtwo can't do that, if Shadow is too fast for him. Its called "Focusing". You can't focus on a target if you can't find the target. He doesn't need his brainwashing immunity power to win, since in terms of stats, he beats Mewtwo, making him far to fast for Mewtwo's mind wipping powers And that's always been Death Battle's problem. They always miss or out right ignore things that give someone a victory

[@NateTmi]

@@22kingdomheartsfan what good dose it do telling me? I am not a big fan of sonic so I only know the 2 games I have & shadow is in 1 but even that I don't play it much, I enjoy pokemon & know mew2 well he would not need much time to focus with his power & it is not like he would be removing alot of memory. Yes death battle maybe got 2 things wrong about shadow or made mew2 a bit too fast to use his mind power, yet that is the power u can't run from, speed might make the difference if shadow attacked B4 mew2 could use the mind attack, that is why I say shadow is stronger then mew2.

[@22kingdomheartsfan]

@@NateTmi Its MORE then just two things, and Mewtwo isn't faster, Shadow is. And yes, you CAN run from mind powers, cause mind powers require you to FOCUS! You can't FOCUS on a target, if you find, see, or location your target! And Shadow has the speed to do that. And by the way: Mewtwo never uses mind erasing powers first. He didn't use it on Giovanni when he attack his island on the 2nd movie, he only used it AFTER the bad guys were beaten, and Mewtwo didn't use mind erasing powers on that one movie where Mewtwo became female. So Shadow not only has the speed to out pace Mewtwo and his psychic powers, but the strength to finish him before he pulls it off

[@empirejeff]

Mew Two owns all.

[@adam-dn3hi]

Mewtwo hase 2 mega level x and y

[@CommanderM117]

and OG movie Mewtwo likely would never need Mega but that me