Beating the Worst Mario & Luigi Game by Not Playing it

[@DonShnack]

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[@moonman3339]

nuh uh

[@Turtleboy42]

I am just sad that the fact that you can’t spell grass without a g followed by 2 s didn’t make it into the video (there was a typo because instead of a g it was supposed to be an a)

[@Toon.Hamstreak_658]

1:42 ~ 1:43 Why is there an apostrophe there? It's neither a possessive nor a contraction. Please proofread your... everything... before you upload.

[@ScootsLounge]

Starlow was done so dirty in this game tbh. She's no where near as bad in Bowser's Inside Story or Dream Team. She's better in Brothership, but that's probably because she's not a main character anymore.

[@castform7]

I was thinking the same thing. Like yeah, she went too hard on him after the Shroob fight in BIS but she has it out for Luigi in this game and it contributes to people thinking she's just the Luigi hatebot.

[@ScootsLounge]

Ngl, this is just reminding me how fondly Luigi is treated in Brothership. He's seen as an equal to his brother by most of the residents of Concordia, and has more than his fair share of good moments. It's just nice after so many games that treat him with varying degrees of punching bagginess.

[@castform7]

Yeah but I'm also glad that it's not completely gone. The problem wasn't Luigi being a joke, it's how they told those jokes in PJ. There are still many funny moments with Luigi in Brothership, like a good amount of the cannon landings but it's Luigi's comedy done the right way. An outside factor or his clumsiness/inherent goofy nature usually getting the best of him leading to an over the top reaction instead of everyone but his brother being like "this guy sucks".

[@beatzdyer]

The Shroob insult makes sense. Back then Luigi hadn't done much to prove that he was in fact That Guy, so Starlow was doubtful that such a coward could be so brave and so good in a fight. In Paper Jam she has seen Luigi be useful in BIS and VITAL in Dream Team, yet she STILL talks shit.

[@ScootsLounge]

@@beatzdyer Overall, Paper Jam just feels like character assassination for Starlow. She had a bit of a mouth, sure, but it was light ribbing most of the time towards Luigi. They just cranked it up for some reason in Paper Jam to an unacceptable level. She's a bit better in Brothership, as I mentioned before, but there's this one moment where she refers to Luigi as "Mario's Brother", and that just pisses me off. Does he not deserve to be addressed as his own person after *3* adventures? That's the worst she gets, thankfully, but that will forever be in my memory.

[@tylerbarth3113]

Paper Jam had really, really great battle gameplay, solid music and not much else.

[@beatzdyer]

SOME of the paper ideas were cool, not the papercrafts tho. And the final Luigi bros attack is such a nice reference.

[@tylerbarth3113]

​@@beatzdyerI enjoyed it but I'm not giving it another run. I even gave Dream Team another run. The Papercrafts were okay. No real opinion on them.

[@castform7]

@@beatzdyer Gotta say, Mega Thwonk is one of my favorite Bros. moves.

[@kuro2378]

Also Paper Jam had minimal tutorial via the Action Guide and a fast forward button, which were honestly a good addition. It was nice it was carried over with Snoutlet School for the most part and fast forward via holding B.

[@Blaze-rw6te]

Honestly I’m glad that the new Mario and Luigi game gave so much spotlight to Luigi. Bro deserves it

[@bandu3567]

Yeah it does really makes me wonder when ign said "luigi takes the l"

[@generalsynnacle23]

Wasn't that first done in Dream Team? The entire game gimmick was Luigi dreaming.

[@PoyoPowerPlant]

@@generalsynnacle23 But now he's turning those dreams into reality with Luigi LogicTM

[@worldssmallestdestron7819]

26:00 either SPM happens in the future, or paper peach has dementia. because Luigi becomes the god of death for a time, and is immortal beforehand.

[@beatzdyer]

Ir she chooses to repress those memories, which is fair considering how Luigi was turned into a mindless slave before being forcefully morphed into a giant death god that was piloted by a demented clown like a giant magical flesh mech.

[@worldssmallestdestron7819]

@@beatzdyer yeah, that could also be a possibility. but I also wanted to get close to saying Dimentio in the comment without saying his name directly for who the hell knows why reasons.

[@silversonic9683]

This has to be an alternate timeline of sticker star bc the paper big pokey has a sticker crown

[@Turtle-Melon]

Gotta say this, I really respect how you try to actually think about how you like the games you play, why you like them or dont like them, and the pros and cons of the games no matter how you feel. You dont immediately end your feelings on "bad game because I lose" or "game different therefore bad." You have something that I feel like a lot of people these days are lacking when judging video games, something I don't really have a term for yet. A combination of patience, the ability to see into the creators' vision, the ability to see into different perspectives, and the willingness to have as much fun as you can. Among many things, that is why you are The Don, and I greatly respect that

[@PTp1ranha]

Empathy and nuance are the terms that come to mind.

[@lilaniloxi]

I'd say good faith is the thing you're eluding to

[@lizzieva1646]

I think the luigi bullying is one of paper jams worst qualities, like it feels actually mean spirited and not funny compared to inside story and dream team

[@mintystingmoon4787]

It’s by far the most any Mario game has pulled the “Luigi’s the butt of the joke, please laugh” card, and it’s always present in Paper Jam’s dialogue and not a random single jab at him like it is most of the time.

[@WooperK]

if it was only starlow then it would probably be alright but the princesses and toads, it genually starts to sound like no one likes luigi

[@JamesP7]

And in Dream Team the “bullying” actually was intentional to help build Luigi’s character. It makes the final Giant Battle so much more worth it.

[@beatzdyer]

In those two games he wasn't bullied much. In dream team he was finally earning respect only for starlow to show that her brain is as smooth as her body in Paper Jam

[@tylerbarth3113]

Absolutely agreed. Slowly but surely people started taking Luigi seriously over the prior four games and it's all just undone. Luigi really gets a place in the sun in Brothership which is so nice to see.

[@MCFawful]

One of the highlights of this whole run was you spending forty minutes on the Kameks fight, saying “trust the process” and then WINNING??

[@CR1MSONACE]

The power of *trust the process* is not to be underestimated.

[@aidanwalker8142]

Guys he’s finally 15% done with the game! Can’t wait to see him experience the post tutorial game!

[@hello6794]

The king bob-omb fight is B- until you realize that you can actually survive the attack that he does when the timer runs out. You auto win the fight when that happens but you don’t get any exp

[@HellFireRock0731]

For a second I thought he was talking about brothership, and I was actually about to lose it

[@comet.x]

ah yes, the starlow character assassination. She went from a bit snarky to just straight up vile

[@Dullsonic3]

It still pisses me off that they could had picked far more interesting characters from both the world of paper Mario and Mario and Luigi for this collab, but no! Instead it’s just some generic bs we seen 100 times! Anyways gg for clearing the brutal “only use Paper Mario” challenge!

[@notsogreatjagras4314]

They couldnt actually. Alpha Dream stated after PJ that nintendo forced them to only utilise established nintendo characters, thats why you see no reference to previous paper mario or MAL characters (with the exception of starlow). So the unoriginal setting is 90% nintendos fault, the boring stale plot is their fault.

[@Dullsonic3]

@ bruh

[@DaMrTree]

I always love these videos. They're so well done, great cinematics, top notch commentary, and there's so many emotional moments, I feel I'm watching some top teir drama while lying on my couch eating cool ranch doritos, staring at my phone to watch a man play as a stack of sentient paper. Absolutely love these videos, and constantly play them back for the heartfelt and comedic momements by one of my favorite content creators. Never change, Mr. Shnack. (And don't ever be embarrased. Nobody is perfect, and you'll always be better at games than one person in your chat...)

[@TheGreatVoicemancer]

46:54 I completely disagree, PIT probably has one of the darkest stories in any of the rpgs, second to spm, the final battle will literally garuntee the extinction of at least one species no matter who wins, toads get killed and turned into batteries, the shroobs are essentially a parasite upon the world.

[@notsogreatjagras4314]

But outside of the forest and the final fights the shroobs cannot be taken serious. Tell me you took the big green guy with a lolipop as a serious threat. The game had some darker things every now and then but still is kighthearted abd goofy.

[@spiritbaki108]

​@@notsogreatjagras4314 "But outside of the things that made it serious, its not serious"

[@notsogreatjagras4314]

@spiritbaki108 yeah 90% of the game was jovial, the other 10% was kinda dark. Dropping a few drops of coffee in water doesn't make it super bitter, just a tad bit bitter.

[@spiritbaki108]

@@notsogreatjagras4314 But adding a few drops of dye does turn it that color. Lets stop the unrelated metaphors

[@notsogreatjagras4314]

@spiritbaki108 calling the entire game dark because of a handful of moments is like calling silent hill 2 a comedy because of the handful of jokes th cast tells. The moments are dark but the game throws little mushrooms in lab coats with swirly glasses at you, a rock with an angry face, and a giant fat Yoshi with egg based mini games inside. Based on you logic that makes the entire game a joke because of this handful of moments. That's a joke from me but it's the logic you used, it's a Mario and Luigi game, it's not that deep, they are creepy goofy aliens, the game has dark moments but ain't dark overall.

[@RadTroppy]

The reason the devs didn’t also add Paper Luigi to the game (at least to be playable) was so players would only have to control 3 characters instead of 4. Partners in Time is forgotten yet again

[@bombs2848]

Tbf you're still only controlling two people at once in the game. While the brothers are still alive the babies are basically like extensions. You don't control all for at once. There's never a point where you control more than two people at once. I completely understand why they didn't go for it.

[@danielferrieri7434]

I, for some reason, want to play Mario and Luigi: Paper Jam.

[@joeyburkhart6602]

You are insane. No one wants to play this game for fun. This game is mental torture.

[@Sliggoo_457]

If you were to get one of them i recomend bowsers inside story or superstar saga

[@DiagonalTanooki]

it's funny because although this is the worst mario and luigi it is still a pretty good game

[@Red-lu1rx]

Hot take: I actually like this game

[@Sliggoo_457]

@@Red-lu1rx have you played the others

[@theinsomniacleader509]

I never expect him to get philosophical in a video, he always gets philosophical in a video, I always enjoy when he gets philosophical in a video

[@wobblewokgaming655]

The whole Kamek and Magikoopa thing was fixed in Brothership. Kamek is still blue, but Magikoopa's are orange.

[@castform7]

I know it probably won't be done but I kinda hope they use that idea in the future. I do really like Kamek and it's a shame he has nothing that distinguishes him from a regular magikoopa.

[@Mario87456]

@@castform7I mean an easy way to also fix that would be to remove the white parts from their robes by making them blue as well. Since I still want to see blue Magikoopas. It’s similar to how Toad is supposed to be the only red Toad with a blue vest but unfortunately they don’t always keep that consistent much to my frustration.

[@Keiretacooife]

Red Luigi, green waluigi and toilet paper mario wat a team

[@leepakyee]

Or cardboard paper mario

[@Idunno1707]

This is making me want to play Brothership more, since it gives the characters actual personality instead of Mario and The Dickriders.

[@Moonlight24123]

Thank you Don. I love the way you write and pace your videos, but you've also inspired me to be more vulnerable with my own thoughts about games and the media I consume. It's hard being a public figure, asked to comment on or have an opinion on anything, and I'm thankful for your ability to do so in a vulnerable and honest way. Also you say funny haha jokes. So keep it up man, you're the best.

[@sweetnsowre]

that sponsor transition was absolutely genius

[@castform7]

Legitimately didn't see it coming and was just like "y'know what, you got me. I won't be rapidly tapping the right side of my phone."

[@RoboWrecker]

@@castform7I didn’t skip the ad because it was genuinely good, I love it when youtubers take ads and then just put random stuff about the run and jokes inbetween and it isn’t just a boring copy pasted script with 1 or 2 fake stories

[@DaxWolf777]

The grayson productions "You are 100% done" was so frigging poetic oml

[@Alexmurf8.]

41:09 for this trio attack, there actually is a button to make it go faster, i forgot what button, but it's a button for sure

[@paperclipps551]

I came here for the M&L and as an Origami King fan the amount of joy I get from just hearing that you like it was unmatched, THANK YOU DON

[@Aiden-es3hh]

Hey it's me the guy who challenged you yeah the challenge was the opposite beating it with ONLY the bros but y'know lost in the sea of chat

[@Boiky_Cheezooks]

You know I thought this game was alright until they started roasting Luigi like that Fuck this game

[@MLmaster135]

what makes me curious is if you'd be willing to do something called "Nerve mode" of DS Bowser's inside Story if thats possible, where the rules are: 1. Jump/Hammer/Punch/Fire Breath only. no bros/special attacks allowed, as for Specifically BIS, its not required. Durmite is a sole exception to no bros attacks cuz the straw heals for 40ish and has 20 hp, but it should be possible Jump/Hammer only. Wiggler.. All I can say is minimize the amount of times leaf guys appear to minimize total exp, vacuum's hard required for this fight Chakron, who doesn't give exp, which if +1 level is done right, both bros should be at exactly level 19 for both Chakron and Junker all solely cuz Chakron doesn't give exp and doesn't really count as a boss. Bowser Memory M and L will trap you into their fight after you beat Fawful express, so you can't leave til you beat them. the brick block break attack of M is a bit jank hitbox wise so you can be stuck here for awhile. 2. Stache/Horn only on level up. must get +3 Stache/Horn each time on roulette or its a reset, this is extremely important for the last few bosses in the game, thats why +3 is required. 2. no equipment(includes the weakest Boots/Hammer and Bowser's weakest attack gear as these can be unequipped.) or healing blocks/items. BIS level scaling helps to make up for having absolutely nothing. exceptions to this are specifically Challenge medal(must be gotten as early as after Scutlet is beaten), which must be on at all times. and the 2 set full-heal points for the bros(Badge tutorial and 4 sockhop fight) Bowser specifically, cuz Vacuum is important, is allowed to heal on Beehoss cuz he dies in 1-2 hits anyways. this's also especially cuz Dark Bowser's Fire breath+falling rocks is jank hitbox wise, so Bowser needs the full hp. Giant Mushrooms in giant battles are legal, cuz those aren't your inventory, only a temporary item. 3. a choice of either minimum level or +1 level per area arc Boss. like if its Bowser's turn in Story before his boss/giant boss, he gets +1 level and only him. if its the bros turn for their boss then its them. exception to this for +1 level is Broque+Broggy,, so it'd be wise to avoid all encounters, save and fight Broque to see the exp gained. as well as Blooper Statue 4. no badges, exception to this is specifically the last 3 bosses in the game. 5. the shroob fight's forced at the earliest available point ie right around before Junker, no +1 level for the bros for this fight, and it only gives 700exp so its fine. 6. Junker's a 2k hp mario solo. also don't bother freeing Luigi, trust me I tried and it will just throw him back in the junker cans. good news is Junker's saving the run via protecting Luigi 7. Dark Star, I can confirm both bros w/0 speed upgrades or equips are hard-required to be at level 35 for mario to out-speed Dark Star cuz of how its vulnerable cycle's tied to it and both bros's speed stat. at level 35, Mario gets an extra turn in the cycle. Dark Star will also start healing for 30 hp after strictly, the 2nd vulnerable cycle, and it can heal up to 60-120 or more if too slow to kill the satellmites. at any level lower than 35, and I can confirm having tested this at level 22, the lowest on +1 level, this fight is impossible all cuz Dark Star goes first. lastly, the 4 color orb attack Dark Star does, specifically from top to bottom w/4 of the same color red/green orb. this, and I can absolutely confirm, is a frame perfect Jump dodge that will likely wall you for awhile. if jumped wrong by the 2nd orb, the 4th orb will catch the bro right in their hitbox right as they jump. I have seen this happen to me a lot. it is brutal and, worst of all from my experience, it seems guaranteed to do this at least once. this's why Dark Star's the hardest boss in DS BIS aside from how aggressive it is, all cuz of that frame-perfect attack. this's where the exception to no badges comes in, Excellent+POW! badge's x2 Damage effect is required here. however, the bros are strictly not allowed to level to 35 until after Blizzard Midbus is Defeated. 8. Dark Fawful. the 5 turn wait time for Vacuum helmet is another reason why Excellent+POW! badge's required, combined w/a combined total of 4k hp between both bosses and a trickier Star ray at half hp where its "Memorize pink Star or die." I can absolutely confirm DS BIS is completely possible Jump/Hammer only. and its a pretty satisfying challenge, alongside seeing how monstrous some bosses like Dark Star actually are without the aid of what normally makes the bosses easy(bros attacks and equips) It may be tedious yes, but this's effectively the hardest challenge the series has to offer, by using only the basics. there's even a series of videos on nerve mode for partners in time too, which I was inspired by. Brothership's version of this's legit even harder, but is completely possible no gear Jump/Hammer only too (excluding 3 specific fights)

[@PopodumMan]

Lowkey one of the best parts of Paper Jam (in my opinion) are the optional amiibo cards you can unlock using the Toad, Mario, Luigi, Peach, Yoshi, and Bowser amiibo. They're just upgraded versions of battle cards, and you can only use one amiibo card per amiibo per battle, but some of them have completely overpowered effects. Want to prevent all enemies from taking any actions for like 4 turns? Fully heal the entire party? Earn double coins and EXP after battle? Deal 10 damage to all enemies 8 times, for a total of 80 damage? Revive all fainted bros? You can do all that and more. Plus, they have really cute custom art referencing other mario games on each card - such as mario with a coin block helmet from New Super Mario Bros. 2, or yoshi in his Yoshi's Island style. All in all, considering you unlock them after Petey Piranha, the very first boss, it can massively reduce game difficulty for any kind of run. Kind of an odd thing to lock behind amiibo though

[@Hugelag]

I just wanted to tell you that you do a great Yogi Bear and Bender impression. Great video, btw.

[@jaberan25]

the stop motion paper mario animations go crayyyzayyyy

[@skinnylegend1427]

And just a couple of minutes ago I thought to myself, where had the don gone? He must be cooking something and here the video has came

[@idontwantahandlethough]

LOL I haven't heard a Flat Stanley reference in like 20 years. Love that guy!

[@expertdesperado6]

One of my favorite things about Brothership is that Starlow has almost no purpose

[@Red-lu1rx]

When I saw our companion not being Starlow I was like "YES, Luigi is not catching strays for no reason this time"

[@mintystingmoon4787]

they massively cut back on luigi catching strays in brothership, you could probably count the amount of them on half a hand.

[@therealtailsprower]

starlow is only really super bad in paper jam, but that's just because paper jam as a whole is mean to luigi even the "did you defeat them with some crying" in bis has her apologize after

[@castform7]

@@expertdesperado6 I am still glad she wasn't just put in a vault. She has appeared in enough M&L stuff to where I consider her a mainstay of the side series. Plus there's something really nice they do with her that I won't spoil.

[@i-Sparki]

Hell, Snoutlet does the opposite of Starlow and gives Luigi a fair bit of credit and praise which is amazing- he's a genuine friend to both of the Bros.

[@EnigmaticGentleman]

I thought you were talking about brothership and clicked on this video just to talk smack (something like "Do you get your media opinions solely from critics?"), but man this was a really fun video.

[@Gamma11698]

First time catching an upload this early, I just wanted to say I love your presentation in all your videos. It always feels so well paced and very fun and interesting. You are very unique on this platform, keep it up!

[@Egoo02]

God, your videos are just so beautful. You're so funny, everything is structured so creatively and interesting. You always have inteeresing stuff to say. It's always a treat and I look forward to your next uploads!!! :D

[@omegazero5884]

I think something that's difficult as a creative when looking at transforming the media we've consumed is the difficulty that comes with not being "cringe" to those we try to share that transformation with. Be it fanart, fan games, videos, fanfic etc it's got it's own challenges that come in exchange for talking about an already existing medium. Sure your not creating the thing from scratch but your still putting pieces of you and how the medium affected you into it, and then contrasting it with someone elses. To two people who loved the Galaxy as an example, to one person it was just a really good mario game they played it had their fun moved on to another it was THE game. I think it's more than fine that you struggled with this blind challenge run and honestly I enjoy it alot more personally than the far more "prepared" if I had to pick a word for it. It feels alot more you than the pikmin documentary staring CAPTAIN DON. That while random always felt like you had a good enough grasp on the game to be able to be a cocky player. I understand if you decide to go back to playing games your far more confident in. Just so you don't seem like your going out of your way to attack people who enjoy a specific game but if you decide to do far less challenge focused blind playthroughs of a series I'd be so hyped for it.

[@MusicianNrd]

4:24 I really appreciate the usage of “Night of Fate” from Kingdom Hearts 1 because I love that song.

[@MelaStarrata]

Never knew my fav bus ride game was hated. Thanks for showing it off for me to play again

[@Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17]

How DARE you say that about the goat Kamek?? Although he should have his own special design compared to other Magikoopas 😭

[@superlagbro192]

It's crazy how they decided to try and solve this problem in Brothership by making every other magikoopa orange. Funniest possible solution for the kamek dilemma

[@ILikeKirbys]

@@superlagbro192 Kamek finally realized everyone was copying his style and made them all change

[@POP_TR]

1:11 Not to be rude, since i know this challenge took you a while to beat since i was in the stream, but you can use items specifically between the 2 bros, or fail all your bros attacks. You cant mess up red shell without doing a little damage, but fire flower you just dont press anything.

[@DonShnack]

not rude at all, I did end up using items on them a lot. The bros tech was something I didn't think of tho good shout

[@POP_TR]

Oh yeah- 41:14 if you ever plan on playing this game again, hold Y to speed up your descent, i think it only tells you this in the tutorial while hovering over the attack

[@grfrjiglstan]

I think they should've kept Attack Pieces in this game. I get that the Paper Toads sometimes serve basically that same purpose, but if you're gonna make me run around grabbing random bits of litter, why not keep the system that already makes me feel motivated to actually do that?

[@PTp1ranha]

I remember at the very start of the game, I thought: "oh no... I think I hate this. I've never hated a Mario game before, I was even lenient with Sticker Star, but this?" But the game did win me over before too long. It's definitely the weakest when it comes to a lot of the things people have come to enjoy in Mario & Luigi games. Brothership definitely brought some much-needed juice back to the series. But Paper Jam's still got some snazzy gameplay. Though I think the Trio attacks tend to overstay their welcome.

[@ethanhuddleston]

Oh my, raycon jump scare, I thought my internet crashed😞😂😂😂

[@castform7]

If I had to describe Paper Jam in one word....I wouldn't know what to say so let me use multiple. I agree with the fact that in a way, they celebrate mainline Mario more than the two side series this game presents crossing over. It sucks to hear about the development of this game because now it feels like the developers had higher hopes for this too but stripped it back to the point of it being generic and in some ways, passive aggressive. Like the constant Luigi bullying is dialed up here. I'm fine with Luigi being the butt of a lot of jokes in the M&L series because 1. it usually comes from his own clumsiness or some outside factor messing him up and 2. it has always been a point in the M&L series to show why both brothers' names are on the title. Here, even the princesses *who respect him* get on his case. I don't want to rain on the parade of anyone who likes the game. It does do some pretty neat stuff and if it scratches someone's itch, who am I to tell them they're wrong. I just personally feel like the game didn't reach its full potential and fell into being pretty generic unfortunately.

[@DonShnack]

Beautifully put : ) really appreciate the input fr

[@Aldenfenris]

I know people love to dunk into this game but i loved it when u played it haha. I must have low standards Also i tend to not be the kind to jump around out of the expected areas si never really ran into the glitches the game clearly has.

[@SylviaGrome]

Honestly this game is kinda crazy for challenge runs (especially a no dodging run because bosses like Wigglerand Kamek have attack patterns that could be plopped straight into a different turn based rpg and easily end up being one of the stronger super bosses) mostly just due to the combat system of the Mario and Luigi series Also about the music at least for Dream Team, Paper Jam, and the remakes Yoko Shimomura the composer for Kingdom Hearts was also the composer for those games which is the explanation for some of the music feeling like it was from a different game than the Mario RPG that has two Mario’s or like 500 Luigi’s Also one last thing I’m pretty sure the Bowser anti trio attack thing is supposed to be unfair with it purposely not giving very reliable tells for when to jump because it’s mainly just supposed to stop people from spamming trio attacks instantly

[@melonhead8884]

Don, you always manage to tell a great story and have such interesting visuals and dialogue between the gameplay you truly represent the best of this website

[@melonhead8884]

yo, bro's glazing like crazy

[@Red-lu1rx]

6:40 The blue blur is doing them tricks in the air again

[@WhatAboutDustbunny]

The Grayson Productions callout is crazy, I've watched that homie get timed out in stream chat before

[@Illinaut552]

I think the wild thing is that although paper jam is the worst m&l game, it's just aggressively mid and I mean the actual definition of mid, not bad but not significant, hell I beat it and didn't even remember the desert area. which I think is a testament to m&l game design and honestly if it's story was better and it didn't have the constant time trial and papercraft battles it would genuinely be a really good game. At least that's how I see it.

[@PenCatStudio]

No way… I was just studying for a math test going “Dang, would be real nice to have a Don Shnack vid to study to…” uh then I took my test. Sooo too late, but this vid still rocks so I guess all good :D

[@dacknostrum]

Starlow is better in Brothership. She's also not as bad in her debut game.

[@3clisp315]

Paper jam lowkey fucked up starlows character forever ngl

[@Alberto-tg1ey]

Thank God in the last game they stopped with the bullying Luigi jokes

[@Squincy.B]

The printer is back at it again! YES BRO!!!

[@CooperDooper38]

It was a genuine joy to be there live for about half of this playthrough. You may have fucked up a few times, but you never gave up. Was an inspiration to see

[@Sky_The_Dragon]

Oh no where'd my comment go? 😢 I can't find it, I think it disappeared. I was just saying how awesome and funny you are, this is the second video I've watched from you (the first was your Mario Kart battle mode video) and your videos are so entertaining :3 I LOVE when KZbinrs do quick, low quality meme edits, and it's even funnier when they're perfectly cut. Your videos are so awesome and I'm DEFINITELY gonna stay up to date with them ❤

[@tenaciouswaffle]

I don’t normally comment much but I think the content and videos you make are some of the most original and full of heart on the entire platform. Keep up the great work Don you’re incredible!

[@KyaHimiko]

I honestly love love LOVE these videos. Not only because of the sheer quality and effort put into it all, but also because of the way you go about it, how you talk about the game from an honest yet calm and understanding perspective. You make me want to take a step back and truly try to see the intentions and goodness in games that I would otherwise just cast aside because "game bad lmao". Please keep doing what you do, you're an inspiration.

[@ShratTheMighty]

I respect that you always stick to your video concepts, both narratively and in practice. It can come out a mess sometimes, but anything worth making is a bit messy. Insta click, was waiting for the edited vid eagerly. Based as always

[@catborg780]

You explained what I don't like about this game perfectly. The papercraft fights turn the game into ungodly slow tank fights

[@liammcintyre8826]

Hope this blows up man, you're the goat

[@Toorsie]

32:10 the fact I was able to find Stray music of a few notes is insane (stray is such a good game btw)

[@beetlepainter00]

I actually really like the ending to this video, it feels, personal, and special. This channel is insanely cool, some of the most creative videos ive ever seen, and just so cool, so thank you for being such a cool person, and making some special stuff for all of us to enjoy. Im always excited to see more :3

[@CXIgaming6170]

I loved watching the final couple of streams you did of this challenge. You’re way too entertaining for your own good!

[@Kgamer7800]

MARK AND LUWIS😂 2:02

[@nooneiknow2719]

1:05:42 The return of the Shadow puppet almost made me spit my water out 😆

[@calemr]

As someone who played it: Probably the worst M+L... And I still enjoyed it thoroughly.

[@Nimzo25]

I enjoyed Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam and loved the partnerships of both the regular and Paper Koopa Troops, as well as the Koopalings having dialogue and they even hinted their own Paper Counterparts, which were seen in Paper Mario: Color Splash. Now if only Nintendo can reveal Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam 2, which has the Koopalings team up with their Paper Counterparts in addition to Bowser, Bowser Jr. and Kamek doing it again, as well as Minions such as Paper Buzzy Beetles, Paper Pokeys, Paper Cheep Cheeps, Bone Goombas, Ice Bros, Sledge Bros, Pink and Yellow Shy Guys, Ptooies, and Dino Rhinos.

[@beatzdyer]

I only want a Paper Jam 2 if Paper Luigi shows up and jumps even HIGHER than Paper Mario.

[@DarisuccSA]

Thank god the comments are talking about how Starlow went through some character assasination in this game and not just how "ummm starlow bad!!! I love stuffwell!!!" Like how most other youtubers do

[@Phoenix58803]

25:39 I like how through subliminal music messaging you tell us that this toad would fit perfectly in an ace attorney game.

[@Alicia_Highwind]

You've done it again, boss! Amazing video, and just in time for me having finished binging all of your content lmao. Looking forward to whatever you put out next, Mr. The Don!

[@keving264]

7:05 actually petey is the 1st one to introduce this mechanic but since it requires the bros to be alive, it didn't activate the move

[@Vinedsteel]

Love this video, your a underrated KZbinr, you SHOULD be more popular.

[@lapine.mp4lapine.mp350]

16:00 *You can't just rip off the goat Stuffwell's line and fly away without any consequences, you oversized tennis ball.*

[@kylewood4001]

There’s no way a “game but I don’t ___” video touches your soul at the end out of nowhere :

[@ByrneBaby]

1:01:05 I HAD THE SAME EXACT REACTION. Why did they actually bully Luigi so hard??? Also this is such a fun video format, it's a great way to review and play a game and also inspire actual discussion about game design which I think the gaming sphere is severely lacking rn.

[@LoreSolver4]

I feel Paper Mario (by himself at least) in this game is like (and here is the wierd analogy) Banana farm in Bloons. Are they broken? Yes. Are they fun to use? Not really.

[@thegreenninja216]

Normally I skip the sponsor segments of videos in general but you got me with the mid sentence pause so I had to watch it, unfortunately I don’t have money to get the Raycons but if I would

[@megaplays2748]

Ya know, seeing how brutal Luigi is treated in this game makes the favoritism towards him in Brothership more like making ammends than just Luigi bias

[@reesewhittington6778]

15:49 Dude I have no idea _how_ a fan came up with this but according to a fan theory Starlow has a crush on Luigi and thinks this is "Romantic teasing".

[@corbinegan3682]

Man the mistreatment of the weegee is PALPABLE. Disgusting behavior from the lotta them.

[@thomaslammens4058]

This game is awesome, I love Paper jam, People don't like it because of the story but I don't really Care that much. Sometimes a generic game can be good and this in one of them!

[@beatzdyer]

I also love this game, but we have to agree that the Luigi slander is AWFUL

[@ByrneBaby]

Response to the ending: I agree completely. The last Mario & Luigi I played before Brothership was Dream Team, although I didn't finish it. Things were tough back then and they haven't stopped, so the enthusiasm needed to finish games isn't there unless it's truly exceptional, BUT THAT SAID... This game's sick. I was never a Paper Mario guy myself, only a GBA and DS dude, but this game's clearly good and had love in it, it just came out during a bad time for Mario RPGs. Imagine if it was made right before Super Paper Mario or after Bowser's Inside Story... Might have just been peak gaming for decades to come. It sucks that it was held back, because the potential alone was through the roof.

[@grfrjiglstan]

So glad Paper The Don showed up at the end to bring it all home.

[@SKirbGame]

I will never forgive this game for its crimes against my goat luigi

[@AlanNess]

Really enjoy watching this playthrough of Paper Jam~ I have gained new appreciation towards this game.

[@k-webb]

I doubt you’ll see this Don but I think you’d LOVE Sea of Stars as it is heavily inspired by this game series, Mario & Luigi, and has a great story. Doesn’t even need a video you just deserve to see how beautiful this game is! Loved the video, the beans bit made me giggle.

[@Colaconnoisseur]

It can be said without a doubt. Don has finally completed the tutorial

[@Laylaytheflyingowlbear]

I like this guy. It makes me happy to see successful autistic people, maybe one day I can be one too

[@brandonwejkszner1733]

If the environments were more memorable and the paper craft battles were replaced with giant battles or some sort of variant of that this would be one of the best Mario and Luigi games

[@beatzdyer]

After ALLL the work Luigi did in Dream Team Starlow still talks shit about Luigi. She wasn't mean in Bowsers inside story where she was introduced.

[@variumi]

The Don’s printer must have had a paper jam with the amount of stuff he printed for the commentary

[@Mama-Luigi]

thumbnail scared me for a second until i saw the poly count... that was almost definitely the intention which is lame but whatever ball on top

[@ruler898]

38:30 I think the worst part when you don't get to complete the vision and rush out a product is that the idea is then spent. You don't get a do over really. So this game, which has a great idea behind it by bringing both worlds together, is now done, and it was mediocre, you don't get to re-use that idea now that it's done and didn't live up to it. I feel the same way with other games too, like Bethesda's new Starfield, great setting, neat aesthetic, good foundation. And in the end it was executed poorly and you don't get another first shot. That's the worst thing about rushed games. When you see the potential there, and then see how it squandered it.

[@squiddorito]

I love the Grayson line at the end idk why that hit me in here 👉❤️🥲

[@Raymond-yl2gt]

FRAME ONE SONIC RUNNERS OST MY BELOVED???

[@Jamm7]

Good vid. *(and the man walks out of the bar, and leaves everyone confused)*