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@mateusoliveira8373
@mateusoliveira8373 6 жыл бұрын
Brazil uses ethanol powered vehicles since the 80's. Every car manufacted in Brazil must be able to run on gas and ethanol. Here our ethanol is made from sugar kane
@almirjorge5462
@almirjorge5462 6 жыл бұрын
the only problem is that when the motor is cold is hard to burn the ethanol, i realy wish that the ethanol here uses 10% of gas like in the us
@BlackCatRedScarf
@BlackCatRedScarf 6 жыл бұрын
Adding 20% on ethanol allows even gasoline engines with modern ECUs to run on ethanol. Certainly not recommend if you don't know what you are doing, but on every racing engine that I opened, there is not difference in terms of wear... Except the gasoline engines got some thicker coal coating on the pistons and cylinders head. Ethanol is a blessing for racing car and much more healthy for people who like to tune cars or work on engines. In Brazil, the price per km can be better than gasoline, but that may vary due to ethanol vs gasoline prices on the pump and the efficiency of the ethanol vs gasoline (engines vary between 60% and 80% of the gasoline milage due to several factors). In US, ethanol isn't exactly a good deal outside the high performance automobiles spectrum.
@ASPthespeedyboy
@ASPthespeedyboy 6 жыл бұрын
Mateus Oliveira i’m going to brazil (This is a joke)
@hqwthe
@hqwthe 6 жыл бұрын
but it doesn't matter because here in brazil we have flex fuel cars, cars with a balanced compression rate so it can run both gasoline and ethanol, which in practice doesn't run good in any fuel. in the 80' to the 2000' we had monofuel cars, gasoline or ethanol, then the difference mattered because ethanol was much more cheap
@mateusoliveira8373
@mateusoliveira8373 6 жыл бұрын
@@hqwthe some better than others. I have a 2013 Honda Civic MT 1.8l it the efficiency compared to 'gas' is 83%
@tvrsh_yuri
@tvrsh_yuri 5 жыл бұрын
The Gallons per Acre of land depends a lot on what vegetal you're using as a base for Ethanol. Here in Brazil we make Ethanol from sugarcane, it's fermentation process takes less time and you get about double the amount of fuel/land. Also, we have E-100 ethanol on every fuel pump, great for performance and costs about half the price of gas with about 3/4 of the mileage, so at least a good 85% of new vehicles here come with a flex fuel option (except for diesel trucks and stuffs like that).
@Hartigan0809
@Hartigan0809 6 жыл бұрын
in brazil we use ethanol as much as gasoline, but we extract it from sugar cane and not corn. a few decades ago there were only-ethanol and only-gas cars, now almost all new cars are flex fuel.
@modergav
@modergav 6 жыл бұрын
And I believe we were the first country to use ethanol as fuel in the late 70's
@Beelzehump
@Beelzehump 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we've been using E100 for over 30 years now. Americans will never know how amazing is the smell an old ethanol chevette LOL
@espvp
@espvp 6 жыл бұрын
I thought you used sopa do macaco uma delicia kkkk
@Beelzehump
@Beelzehump 6 жыл бұрын
HUE HUE HUE BRBR GIBBE MONY PLOZ
@justawhitenigga
@justawhitenigga 6 жыл бұрын
Great. In Europe we use E10 Gasoline. I have a Renault (in Brazil, Renault are popular cars) and I put ethanol E100, derived from sugar cane. No burning oil, no issues or something like that. Big like from Romania!
@rafaelmoreir
@rafaelmoreir 5 жыл бұрын
Here in Brazil I drive a 34 year old Mercedes which uses ethanol blended gasoline for about 27 years. From 15% in 1992 it has raised to 27% today. Not because I have a option (it's mandatory to gasoline here to have between 25 and 27% ethanol), but despite changes in the fuel hoses and a carburetor diaphragm, I don't have a single issue here. The car was once sat for about 4 months and started right away. The carbon build up is really low, the fuel tank is pristine and the carb actually has zero corrosion. But again, it's a carbureted engine, which I could fine tune it to perform with the same mileage to the european or US fuel. Friends with fuel injected ones blame a 30% drop in fuel efficiency. But my point is: Change your fuel hoses (as I would recommend to any old car driver) to a good ethanol-resistant one, advance your ignition timing a bit, maybe a colder plug and test it. I know it's not better than pure gasoline in overall performance but considering the benefits regarding less pollution, it's a very little compromise. Sad to know it's so expensive to make in the US.
@cmte.brazinazzo2061
@cmte.brazinazzo2061 5 жыл бұрын
Actually you don't need to use a cooler plugs if you didn't raise the compression ratio of the engine.
@stefanobonaiuti8243
@stefanobonaiuti8243 Жыл бұрын
unfortunately this is possible only in few places in the world, like Brazil where production of sugar cane and ethanol is cheap. I don't see how it could be done in other places like Europe or north america, unless super heavy subsidies (usa subsidize a lot the corn production, to get to 10% ethanol in petrol.)
@axel3895
@axel3895 6 жыл бұрын
I knew race cars were corny
@haydenreyes4621
@haydenreyes4621 6 жыл бұрын
*que drums*
@markoz673bajen8
@markoz673bajen8 6 жыл бұрын
T Dats theee JokEeeee
@adibbehroozitv6447
@adibbehroozitv6447 6 жыл бұрын
You made a funny
@matthew_natividad
@matthew_natividad 6 жыл бұрын
Ba dum tsh
@poopoopeepee8995
@poopoopeepee8995 6 жыл бұрын
dee. M that joke was too😂
@quickn2889
@quickn2889 5 жыл бұрын
“And then the internal combustion engine becomes a thing of the past like my happiness” 😂 Bart always has me dying lmao but I learn a lot! Great job guys 😉
@SamFBM
@SamFBM 6 жыл бұрын
so russian racers put straight up vodka in thier ladas ?
@c0r5e
@c0r5e 6 жыл бұрын
sam 😂😂😂
@69dirtybird69
@69dirtybird69 5 жыл бұрын
You can run vodka in your car all you have to do is tune the carb or fuel injectors to keep it running
@katalin1595
@katalin1595 5 жыл бұрын
And hearing hardbass 😂
@salttatt
@salttatt 5 жыл бұрын
Melvin Mims Well 40% vodka does really not burn good...
@parisflor2790
@parisflor2790 5 жыл бұрын
@@salttatt it does if its hot enough
@charliekealoha
@charliekealoha 6 жыл бұрын
I love how Bart takes it a little lighter on the subject of ethanol since there are a lot of people who hate it. Good job guys.
@fantasyphilosophy3261
@fantasyphilosophy3261 6 жыл бұрын
Please do crossplane vs flatplane engines
@EyesackWorley
@EyesackWorley 6 жыл бұрын
Yes please
@benjaminmcintosh857
@benjaminmcintosh857 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure EE did a vid if you're still keen
@nyejo
@nyejo 5 жыл бұрын
“Combustion engines will be a thing of the past..... just like my happiness.” I felt that 😂
@MaxSpeedMike
@MaxSpeedMike 6 жыл бұрын
I hear ethanol tastes delicious.
@eduardogears5259
@eduardogears5259 6 жыл бұрын
If you like alcohol :)
@bhavyadhami2727
@bhavyadhami2727 6 жыл бұрын
Especially the one that they use in cars
@BreakingStreams
@BreakingStreams 6 жыл бұрын
Very flavorful. One of the best I’ve tried :)
@henryh3643
@henryh3643 6 жыл бұрын
Well, I wouldn't taste it pure, but with about 40% and some years in an oak barrel I would taste it ;D
@poppy-77
@poppy-77 6 жыл бұрын
Enough to give your chest hairs a perm!
@finboi541
@finboi541 5 жыл бұрын
I want this series back !
@SeamTressGaming
@SeamTressGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Shouout to Bart for biting into that corn cob.
@fitrianhidayat
@fitrianhidayat 6 жыл бұрын
Probably sweet corn
@CSBastianyGaumnitz
@CSBastianyGaumnitz 5 жыл бұрын
I've watched this episode 435 times and I think I might be on my way to cracking the blinking code.
@VauxhaIIOpel
@VauxhaIIOpel 6 жыл бұрын
FLEX FUEL It even works underwater!
@mahiru20ten
@mahiru20ten 6 жыл бұрын
Why isn't Phil doing this?
@desmondmoonbear4143
@desmondmoonbear4143 6 жыл бұрын
*This* comment
@henryh3643
@henryh3643 6 жыл бұрын
watch out, it will seal your exhaust xD
@diegoalvarezc.8236
@diegoalvarezc.8236 6 жыл бұрын
Wierd flex but ok...
@Sandi_shores_lands_fish
@Sandi_shores_lands_fish 6 жыл бұрын
@@diegoalvarezc.8236 Man I just wanna go
@ronangalli
@ronangalli 5 жыл бұрын
Here, in Brasil we use pure ethanol (E100), i feel the change in my car, it gets more "nervous" with 11 hp more than regular gas (142hp/153hp), our ethanol is made with cana-de-açúcar (sugar cane).
@fabuloso3635
@fabuloso3635 6 жыл бұрын
Yes it takes a lot of land to create corn that makes ethanol, but America over produces corn
@jacobmuench6708
@jacobmuench6708 6 жыл бұрын
Oof that cuts deep
@lpmorgan90
@lpmorgan90 6 жыл бұрын
And sugar too...
@terrabnadia1793
@terrabnadia1793 6 жыл бұрын
You dont know shit about corn production. Dont even talk about it
@Jamcad01
@Jamcad01 6 жыл бұрын
Ballz Of'steel That overproduction of corn leads to underproduction of other crops
@fabuloso3635
@fabuloso3635 6 жыл бұрын
Aidan Barrett ooh tough guy
@christophalexander4542
@christophalexander4542 Жыл бұрын
Another point that speaks for ethanol is that you can manufacture it anywhere you can grow starchy crops. Which is basically anywhere humans live. Oil you have to find and have. Maybe not so relevant for the US, but if you depend on pipelines and huge ships to get your oil, it looks a lot more interesting. (Considering the ships probably do not use light oil extra de-sulfured, but rather whatever dregs are left in the refinery...)
@Pornetini
@Pornetini 6 жыл бұрын
1:15 A very important distinction tho is that an enzyme is a catalyst, not a reagent. So it doesn't partake in the reaction, but it speeds it up.
@StatusQuo209
@StatusQuo209 6 жыл бұрын
Ethanol with proper tuning is the bee's knees. Much better partial and full throttle power and even a smoother running engine. (Given you have enough injector) The MPG loss can be minimized as well because you can run a bit leaner partial throttle and also advance timing. I drove 60 miles on the freeway last week and got 33mpg on my B7 2.0T on E50.
@WelcomeToTheMadness
@WelcomeToTheMadness 6 жыл бұрын
On military bases it’s horrible...especially if it’s not used frequently.
@claytonbyrne3322
@claytonbyrne3322 6 жыл бұрын
Truth I go off post to get e85
@justinvillanueva4624
@justinvillanueva4624 6 жыл бұрын
Jblm had some good stuff. Cant find it anywhere else though lol.
@rhubarbpie2027
@rhubarbpie2027 6 жыл бұрын
Wishing the station on base sold ethanol free fuel :(
@Mr562stan
@Mr562stan 6 жыл бұрын
Im guessing diesel is preferred lol
@constitutionalrepublican1611
@constitutionalrepublican1611 6 жыл бұрын
@Bernhard Jordan definitely wrong. Ethanol gas most definitely goes bad.
@alexemmitt8791
@alexemmitt8791 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE E85! I took my Jaguar XE35t from 340 stock HP, swapped two pulleys and added the VelocityAP tune, and now I have 553hp. No other mechanical changes needed for running Ethanol in the Jaguar XE. This puts me less than 40HP away from the worlds fastest Sedan, the Jaguar XE P8. :-) You can get a used XE35t for around 25K, even less.
@nodo7575
@nodo7575 Жыл бұрын
Project 8 is fast cause of aero and chassis not power but good job.
@2seep
@2seep Жыл бұрын
Is your jaguar turbocharged or supercharged? Cause e85 only adds a ton of hp in boosted cars
@matthewthomas912
@matthewthomas912 Жыл бұрын
@@2seep probs supervharged if he's talking abt swapping pulleys
@MostlyPennyCat
@MostlyPennyCat 6 жыл бұрын
Very much good! *mixes with coke* Mmmmm
@n00n1n
@n00n1n Жыл бұрын
Ethanol is actually amongst the simplest fuels. You can create it with water, sugar and yeast. You get the sugar from the corn, add the water and the yeast, fermented, distill it and you have ethanol.
@stefanobonaiuti8243
@stefanobonaiuti8243 Жыл бұрын
yep, that's how is made in Usa, but you could do it from a variety of sources that can be transformed into sugar and subsequently ethanol. In Brazil is done with sugar cane, but it could be made from every starchy or sugary crop; the main thing is that it has to be as cheap as possible, otherwise it won't make much sense.
@richardlahan7068
@richardlahan7068 3 ай бұрын
Just like corn liquor.
@JorgioBeckett
@JorgioBeckett 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I've been waiting for a video on E85 from you all. Now I don't have to explain myself over why I'm waiting for one specific pump over the 11 other free pumps. I can just play this for my passenger while I wait.
@dav8388
@dav8388 6 жыл бұрын
Another thing I've noticed is mold growing around where fuel vapor is. My 87 Camaro is carbureted, and the air intake is just above the left headlight. Before I found a station near me that has non ethanol I was getting a lot of mold growing around the left headlight. Ever since I switched to non ethanol exclusively I don't get the mold anymore.
@Jay027
@Jay027 6 жыл бұрын
Hope everyone had a great Christmas
@justawhitenigga
@justawhitenigga 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jdm132
@jdm132 6 жыл бұрын
Have a happy new year next!
@adamz.9275
@adamz.9275 6 жыл бұрын
You too stranger
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 6 жыл бұрын
Hope you also had a great Christmas and a Happy New Year.
@jburgos961
@jburgos961 5 жыл бұрын
No u
@amaziin7733
@amaziin7733 Жыл бұрын
What happens to this guy ?? Bart did a great job explaining stuff
@stefanobonaiuti8243
@stefanobonaiuti8243 Жыл бұрын
I loved him, it was my favorite one out of everyone
@sopadebronha
@sopadebronha 6 жыл бұрын
Well, here at Brazil we produce ethanol using sugar cane. At gas stations here, you can find fuel with +90% pure ethanol and we have many cars running it daily.
@theFailQuail
@theFailQuail 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, higher sugar content in sugar cane yields higher ethanol outputs for a given input. However, sugar cane does not grow very efficiently in the dryer, colder American Midwest.
@sopadebronha
@sopadebronha 6 жыл бұрын
@@theFailQuail but grows really well here
@cyjan3k823
@cyjan3k823 6 жыл бұрын
But its expensive in USA so how can it work in brazil
@sopadebronha
@sopadebronha 6 жыл бұрын
@@cyjan3k823 Ethanol it's just cheaper than gas here. Thanks to the government investment in alternative fuels we managed to create cheaper and more efficient methods to produce ethanol using the sugar cane.
@theFailQuail
@theFailQuail 6 жыл бұрын
@@cyjan3k823 producing ethanol from sugar cane is cheaper and more efficient than from corn. Sugar cane grows like a weed in Brazil, whereas the US has millions of acres devoted to growing corn. It's all about economies of scale. Corn is a less efficient input, but it's far cheaper to grow in the US than sugar cane. Brazil simply has the advantage in growing sugar cane and invested in developing the processes and industries for manufacturing ethanol from it cheaper than the US can.
@arthurraber3839
@arthurraber3839 6 жыл бұрын
"High Compression, Precise Timing, E85? Well that sounds like a race car" I need this shirt.
@Acc0rd79
@Acc0rd79 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad this didn't turn into one huge commercial for Shell or some other company!
@trulyinfamous
@trulyinfamous 5 жыл бұрын
I am super excited for the potential algae biofuel has for the world. It takes less space, can be grown on salt water or waste water, it produces food as a byproduct, it's completely carbon neutral, and it can be used to produce a wide range of fuels from gasoline to jet fuel. I really want to see algae biofuel take off because myself and many other people aren't ready to give up their muscle cars anytime soon.
@mustafajmh6563
@mustafajmh6563 6 жыл бұрын
Stop vegans from eating corn More vigans =less ethanol = less fun stuf
@NicoMyers
@NicoMyers 6 жыл бұрын
Howzabout: More vegans = fewer cows eating = more unused corn = more ethanol = more fun stuffs
@prestonmaddox3659
@prestonmaddox3659 6 жыл бұрын
@@NicoMyers That is better
@isakjohansson7134
@isakjohansson7134 6 жыл бұрын
@@NicoMyers Cows eat corn?
@hackdeez1075
@hackdeez1075 6 жыл бұрын
@@isakjohansson7134 theyre not supposed to, but we grow most of it for cow feed. In my opinion ethanol is the only good use for corn.
@yahyasajid5113
@yahyasajid5113 6 жыл бұрын
@@NicoMyers it was a joke
@stevedeleon8775
@stevedeleon8775 2 жыл бұрын
75% E85 & 25% GASOLINE blended together make a great race fuel..I use it in my classic 1970 Chevelle SS 454 V8 Big Block..Raises my Octane 15 points..👍
@WilliamACastro
@WilliamACastro 6 жыл бұрын
Here in Brazil, ethanol is a fuel sold normally at gas stations, all popular cars are Flex, run on Gasoline and Ethanol. is a more fuel with lower price. here it is produced from sugarcane.
@WilliamACastro
@WilliamACastro 6 жыл бұрын
Here in Brazil also sells Vehicular Natural Gas (GNV) which is a cheaper fuel still, however the cars do not leave the Factory already adapted to use this fuel, the drivers install this kits in specialized companies, mainly the taxi drivers, however there is a the only model that comes from the factory adapted to use GNV, FIAT Sienna Tetrafuel, it works using Gasoline, Ethanol, Natural Gas and Gasoline from Argentina.
@Tylonfoxx
@Tylonfoxx 5 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamACastro hmm.. i'd love to see an episode on LPG/GNV too and how the conversion kits work exactly :)
@WilliamACastro
@WilliamACastro 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tylonfoxx I also want to see. Which country are you from?
@Tylonfoxx
@Tylonfoxx 5 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamACastro Denmark... probably one of the least innovative countries on the front of alternative fuel, the worst country to own a car in, and home of the well-known oil and bunker company Mærsk :D Seriously... LPG could never lift off here (there's also an explosion danger, moreso than normal gas, so even the EU has problems with it)... we don't even have E85 served at the pumps (unlike Norway, Sweden and Germany). Not all cars are flex, but most newer ones can be refitted for flex... if it wasn't bogged down by taxes. E100 would never fly here... at least for the next 30 or so years because of a controversial state deal with Mærsk... However, the state has considered reducing import tax (normally almost 200%) on electric cars... and the infrastructure is starting to get solid on that point... Regular gas (95 EU octane, afaik americans would call it 88) lies just short of $2 per liter and diesel is about $1.50/liter currently... about half of that is CO2 "guiltyness" tax
@willm687
@willm687 5 жыл бұрын
william castro do you guys get the holden/gm 3.0 litre 6cyl flex fuel engines
@christianmotley262
@christianmotley262 3 жыл бұрын
I modified my 1980 Pontiac LeMans Safari wagon with a 301 and ran E85 and regular half & half, advanced the cam, blocked the heat risers, 160° thermostat, distributor had more timing than the law allows, used my car to haul scrap metal and antiques even with a 2.29 rear end ratio, the smogger carburetor ran way rich so it loved the alky. The only downside was I had to replace every fuel, return, and vapor line imaginable. Got many compliments on the sound of the car like it had a huge cam.
@vyggdrasil1631
@vyggdrasil1631 6 жыл бұрын
Weird flex fuel but ok
@newtella2245
@newtella2245 6 жыл бұрын
Now this is epic
@geometryjosh21
@geometryjosh21 5 жыл бұрын
This flex fuel ain't it chief
@gelps7267
@gelps7267 4 жыл бұрын
here in Brazil all cars are flex
@jmw434
@jmw434 5 жыл бұрын
These videos are so dope. This guy made me realize how much I like learning about cars engines tires etc
@bakaakuma9288
@bakaakuma9288 6 жыл бұрын
i need that "no" sound effect
@vaibhavdabwalv1
@vaibhavdabwalv1 5 жыл бұрын
Jojo?
@KokoroKatsura
@KokoroKatsura 5 жыл бұрын
a n i m e n i m e
@redflame300
@redflame300 4 жыл бұрын
Can we stop with the jojo stuff
@KingKong-tw9gr
@KingKong-tw9gr 4 жыл бұрын
Was sesrching for this comment
@CH3NO2Semonious
@CH3NO2Semonious 2 жыл бұрын
I run Methanol in my race car. I also run new bearings after every quarter mile pass. My daily driver only requires a carb rebuild once a month to run alcohol. I add some 30wt oil to each fill up to try and keep rust in my tank at bay. I also use oil with no zinc in my race car but not in my daily driver.
@kiritomato2312
@kiritomato2312 5 жыл бұрын
6:00 im a normal jdm fan, I see gt86, I like
@terenceiutzi4003
@terenceiutzi4003 Жыл бұрын
My 1967 Triumph Daytona motorcycle manual shows how to set the bike up to run on E95 and explains that it is much higher octain and runs much cooler and removes water from the fuel system. They thought that over the next few years, petrol would be faced out and replaced by ethanol. My dad ran E95 in his 1937 Harley when he raced it!
@calebshonk5838
@calebshonk5838 6 жыл бұрын
Ethanol does not negatively impact food prices, nor does it take crop space away from other crops. The corn used for ethanol production is "field corn", which is grown for livestock and isn't digestible by humans anyway. The fermentation process consumes the starches and leaves behind nutrients and protein which makes for a more nutritious feed for livestock. You also can't drink ethanol (even before it's mixed with gasoline), as it contains high levels of toxins and other chemicals that are harmful if swallowed.
@ZacharySolomon0429
@ZacharySolomon0429 6 жыл бұрын
Also, most of the time, at least around here in north western Illinois. We take the corn dust that's in the grain bins and around the other stuff then take it to the ethanol plant. Might as well be used for something rather than being burned off. That's what they used to do to corn dust.
@emptyshirt
@emptyshirt 6 жыл бұрын
Fuel ethanol actually stabilizes food prices. Excess production of feed corn in good years doesn't tank the price of corn because ethanol plants can just run at 100% capacity. In really bad years the ethanol plants run slower and there is still enough corn for the pigs and cows. Caleb, you are wrong about the edibility of field corn though, it can be eaten if it is converted into hominy. Also, fuel ethanol is safe to drink too. You might want to carbon filter it and distill off the methanol, but methanol can be broken down easily by the body if you drink a little of it.
@johnabrahamsson3280
@johnabrahamsson3280 6 жыл бұрын
@@emptyshirt You can eat the corn raw aswell. I have done it many times. Only setback is that it tastes shit.
@Farms2000
@Farms2000 6 жыл бұрын
Field corn is used to make a lot of food products like Doritos. But you are right there will never be a shortage of it
@truantray
@truantray 6 жыл бұрын
But people care paid to post on the interweb that ethanol is made from food crops.
@digitalbilly
@digitalbilly 2 жыл бұрын
This is so sad that Science garage is gone this was my favourite show... now I'm stuck watching reruns to get by in life.
@hondaforcedproduction2469
@hondaforcedproduction2469 6 жыл бұрын
"Wait, high compression? Precise ignition timing? And dont care about my fuel economy? THAT SOUNDS LIKE A RACE CAR!!!" Lol My favorite part ahaha
@TakeDeadAim
@TakeDeadAim 4 жыл бұрын
I have a son who works at the local "corn gas" plant. It's one of the most heavily monitored(by the ATF) facilities around. They make sure no one is running moonshine outta there. He gives me 55 gal barrels full of the used mash though...makes great fertilizer and breaks up the heavy clay soil. Also good bear bait!
@iManillaFolder
@iManillaFolder 6 жыл бұрын
Just like my happiness A thing of the past
@xavierpanohaya2647
@xavierpanohaya2647 5 жыл бұрын
yup... dang
@eE-wn3fs
@eE-wn3fs 4 жыл бұрын
I commited homicide on a freight train
@mannye
@mannye 4 жыл бұрын
you know my favorite part? THE WAY THE AUDIO CHANGES volume UP AND DOWN. Thanks for that. Do it more.
@myoldaccount2560
@myoldaccount2560 3 жыл бұрын
However, the assumption that ethanol makes the air cleaner does not take into account all of the farm equipment used to harvest the corn as well as the refinement process, using straight gasoline In regular driving is a lot cleaner and makes more sense than the ethanol additives. But keep putting it in racing fuel, that’s a sacrifice we’re all willing to make.
@PatrickAguilar
@PatrickAguilar Жыл бұрын
You can run farm equipment on ethanol too if you know what you’re doing. You can also create an ethanol burner for your distillation apparatus if you know what you’re doing. 🤷🏽
@nans969
@nans969 3 жыл бұрын
I have a flex fuel 2013 Taurus . I only have 1 station that carries it. It's on a navy base. I do have access to it. It used to be more expensive than gas. I used it on and off for 4 years now. Lately, it's all I use. Its 80cents cheaper than gas. Except for a lower mpg, my car is fine with it. Glad I can use it right now because of the pipeline issue.
@ProTreeVideos
@ProTreeVideos 6 жыл бұрын
Hey random person scrolling down the comments.. Happy New Year, and all the best in 2019 :)
@torplum5406
@torplum5406 4 жыл бұрын
GuelphRacing it’s actually about to be 2020. Just wanted to make a correction
@AlanShortySwanson
@AlanShortySwanson 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks from 2020!
@gur262
@gur262 4 жыл бұрын
It's 2020. They are trying to ban the autobahn as I know it. Arguing environment. Meanwhile my dream motorcycle takes less fuel at 240kmh than a fatass BMW x3on average. Meanwhile they pay money for rich people buying an eco e car for 10 000bucks less instead of buying me a motorcycle. This year sucks.
@nimaabtahi9165
@nimaabtahi9165 4 жыл бұрын
These comments really didn’t age well
@brysonrodden5112
@brysonrodden5112 3 жыл бұрын
@@nimaabtahi9165 yeah.😂
@punisher7335
@punisher7335 5 жыл бұрын
I put E85 in my 2000 Dodge Ram 1500 that is not Flex Fuel compatible it runs great for a long time no problems just smells like Cornish than usual and it does help pass with smog.
@MOTORDRIFT
@MOTORDRIFT 4 жыл бұрын
We want you Back Man!!!!😭
@okctrl
@okctrl 3 жыл бұрын
Facts I miss him
@chizowen
@chizowen 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being the only video on KZbin to explain Ethanol in a way that answers all my questions
@papabearjoe9392
@papabearjoe9392 5 жыл бұрын
I remember in The Dukes Of Hazzard The Beginning, Bo put moonshine in The General Lee to get away from Boss Hogg.
@gatorboy74
@gatorboy74 3 жыл бұрын
Love me some e85, got both the impala and the cadi running on it 24/7. Way cheaper than regular gas too
@SuperJuicebox24
@SuperJuicebox24 6 жыл бұрын
My car sat for about a month with E85 in the tank (I had some issues with my tuner) and after I got it sorted and started it was a little rough for about 2 or 3 minutes but after that there have been no problems at all. Switching to E85 was probably my favorite mod I've ever done with any car.
@GumbootsOnBackwards
@GumbootsOnBackwards 3 жыл бұрын
Did this guy die? Why don't we get Science Garage anymore. RIP Science Garage guy. ;(
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 6 жыл бұрын
I have been wondering about the effects of Ethanol on a modern car for years now. Glad, I finally learned about it's effects. If I ever get a car that could use this as it's source of fuel, I'll definitely try it and see how well it drives. (:
@thirteen12
@thirteen12 6 жыл бұрын
daily drive an Evo for 6 years on E85, it's basically a free 100whp because of the timing and increased boost over 91. I can't believe this video didn't mention turbos, that's where it really shines
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 6 жыл бұрын
Tooter Oh really. That’s good to know. Will an older Turbo system benefit from it as well?
@thirteen12
@thirteen12 6 жыл бұрын
@@WarriorsPhoto yeah, the detonation resistance is the whole secret, it allows for more boost, and you can push harder without problems. E85 cools the intake charge and has cooler combustion too. For example if you go crazy with mods you can make a 4 cylinder spit out 1000whp, but no way can you do that on just 91 octane
@ParalyzedPotato7
@ParalyzedPotato7 4 жыл бұрын
Small engines guy here, don’t use ethanol gas in any of your small engines. Especially because they usually have to sit without use for a long time. That will allow water to build up. I recommend using rec gas (you can use the website pure gas to find stations with it)
@nerothehero8236
@nerothehero8236 6 жыл бұрын
Flex Fuel... Damn Phil Swift is cornering the Fuel market now!
3 жыл бұрын
I have a 78 GM Chevette and a 92 Ford Verona, both runnin on alcohol since they are "born" still running fine
@danielkapindu4214
@danielkapindu4214 6 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of alliniol from cars 2
@MonkeyF1st
@MonkeyF1st 3 жыл бұрын
That audible plug between Bart and Nolan was the best plug I've ever seen on youtube; very surreal LOL
@deanjones1801
@deanjones1801 6 жыл бұрын
Anytime I drive my Subaru BRZ around, i usually get asked if I run E-85 . Never knew much about it until watching this 👍
@kennedyjimenez3406
@kennedyjimenez3406 6 жыл бұрын
Dean Jones239 do it man they run so much better with e85 so much smoother and it’s kinda fast lol
@JotaroKujo-gw6ng
@JotaroKujo-gw6ng 6 жыл бұрын
Do yourself a favor and tune it in the future. Particularly for track if you're not gonna make it a drifter.
@deanjones1801
@deanjones1801 6 жыл бұрын
I preciate the feedback guys ice been trying to get more into modifying my car towards a track build
@terrabnadia1793
@terrabnadia1793 6 жыл бұрын
@@kennedyjimenez3406 lmao "kinda" fast. Sorry but those things are insanely underpowered. Needs a turbo from the factory
@muhumads
@muhumads 6 жыл бұрын
If your brz isnt turbocharged then you will get little gains from e85
@chrisdalton3503
@chrisdalton3503 2 жыл бұрын
I love these videos. Keep them coming!! More knowledge!
@SavageBunny1
@SavageBunny1 6 жыл бұрын
I drink ethanol from Chevron when I'm broke.
@redflame300
@redflame300 4 жыл бұрын
@Blake Belladonna nah just enough to make u see sounds and hears colors.
@khirulaminur
@khirulaminur 4 жыл бұрын
Whats wrong with water?
@MACROPARTICLE
@MACROPARTICLE 3 жыл бұрын
Why not grow sugar cane for ethanol production instead? There is barely any starch to convert into sugar, as the cane content is already sugar.
@julianriva5093
@julianriva5093 5 жыл бұрын
Great content and very well presented, I always use E10, its the cheapest and also higher octane than standard unleaded here in Australia. standard = 91 RON, e10 = 95 RON
@itsdeqsterr2184
@itsdeqsterr2184 4 жыл бұрын
This is the one channel that I don’t skip the sponsor, because they’re great 😂 love the vids!
@kylefulkerson3360
@kylefulkerson3360 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing as I sit here fuming out this Chick Fil A line 🌽
@mr.t3520
@mr.t3520 2 жыл бұрын
While I don't necessarily agree that companies "have our best interest at heart", I definitely am interested in using pure ethanol fuels in hybrid use with electric motors
@danmanthe9335
@danmanthe9335 4 жыл бұрын
Sure miss Bart
@terenceiutzi4003
@terenceiutzi4003 Жыл бұрын
In the 70s, Pioneer ran a funny car on E95, and it could only run for expansion because it had such an advantage! In the early 2000s, Triumph ran a Daytona 675 on pure ethanol for exhibition for the same reason, and it led to the new Triumph moto GP bikes that run on E95
@gabo7356
@gabo7356 4 жыл бұрын
I miss this guy
@peter7582
@peter7582 2 жыл бұрын
Butanol is what we should be using. It can run in an unmodified gasoline engine. And it can be made the same way as ethanol.
@IrishDilly.
@IrishDilly. 6 жыл бұрын
I'd rather use vegetable oil. It has a octane rating of 140
@axel3895
@axel3895 6 жыл бұрын
good luck to injectors
@sidharthcs2110
@sidharthcs2110 6 жыл бұрын
It doesn't burn clean
@flyingpirate0456
@flyingpirate0456 6 жыл бұрын
@@axel3895 Just use a converted diesel engine
@ahapainenpaavo6010
@ahapainenpaavo6010 6 жыл бұрын
Dilly Good luck with that. Idiot.
@eastonhansen4787
@eastonhansen4787 6 жыл бұрын
That’s for deisel vehicles
@PAPO1990
@PAPO1990 5 жыл бұрын
"Flex Fuel" is not another name for E85. "Flex Fuel" denotes that a vehicle can run on various mixtures of fuel, usually anything from normal petroleum to full fat E85 and various in-between mixtures.
@viktorsalazar7289
@viktorsalazar7289 5 жыл бұрын
What happens to my car if I mix premium gas with E-85
@joeyphoshowey
@joeyphoshowey 5 жыл бұрын
If it's not equipped with flex fuel sensors, etc. it'll run poorly if you mix more than 15% ethanol content. The effective octane rating of the fuel in your tank will go up, but your ECM will have to adjust the mass flow from injectors to compensate since ethanol has about 2/3 the combustion energy density of gasoline. BTW most E85 sold at gas stations isnt exactly 85% ethanol. there is always some variance to ethanol content. Some gas stations will have 70% some have 82%, etc. The content matters because fuel maps will need to be calibrated based on how much ethanol is in the fuel mixture.
@theshield1613
@theshield1613 4 жыл бұрын
7% cars in the U.S run E-85.
@davidbuyshouses1530
@davidbuyshouses1530 3 жыл бұрын
nothing except better performance. I've run my BMW on full ethynol E85 for almost a year and its fantastic. Those who say otherwise have never used it they just repeat information they hear or read from unreliable sources.
@alextheonewarrior
@alextheonewarrior 4 жыл бұрын
Precise timing and high compression also increases efficiency does it not? Modern engines could run up to a 12.1:1 compression ratio on E85 while current E10-E15 usually run a 9.4-10.1 compression ratio. Higher compression means more heat and more heat means more efficiency, precise timing also means more efficiency and both of those also increase power gains, on top of that, eco-boost cars could run more boost to save on fuel economy.
@MickSwanson
@MickSwanson 6 жыл бұрын
Science Garage these days feels like "Keep it down in the Science Garage, the baby is sleeping in the next room over" - I don't know if this was a production decision or Bart is just feeling low on energy or what, but it's just not the same. :\
@raisinnotnice
@raisinnotnice 6 жыл бұрын
He's becoming a dad soon.
@itssalmonthatfly7465
@itssalmonthatfly7465 6 жыл бұрын
No more screaming Bart then
@Alexd3g
@Alexd3g 6 жыл бұрын
Bunch of people were whining talking about he's too aggressive 😂😂😂 that was the fun part
@PrydeWater901
@PrydeWater901 6 жыл бұрын
Noticeable, yes but still just as informative and interesting. You can clearly tell who’s the grownup in the Donut trio.
@Sandi_shores_lands_fish
@Sandi_shores_lands_fish 6 жыл бұрын
A bit sad when he says compression engines like my hapiness a thing of the past but also funny. I think he can make a joke out of sad
@RCisMe64
@RCisMe64 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think some government-like big names in the automotive industry are controlling the donut media channel to easily educate the youth about vehicles to accommodate for the upcoming mechanic shortage
@motorguy4203
@motorguy4203 6 жыл бұрын
If you don't have a flex fuel vehicle you don't have the proper rubber seals or plastics. Don't use it.
@Haloruler64
@Haloruler64 6 жыл бұрын
Flex fuel isn't an issue of rubber seals, it's an issue of engine management and sensors. Modern fuel systems can support E85 just fine, but they need to be tuned for it.
@ExileXCross
@ExileXCross 6 жыл бұрын
Also most car engines have long switched from fiber/cork gaskets to exclusively multi-layered steel (MLS) gaskets a long time ago to the point where that is more of a falsehood than a truth. To ballpark, If it was made after 2005, chances are that a tune is the issue.
@StatusQuo209
@StatusQuo209 6 жыл бұрын
@@Haloruler64 Yup. You are absolutely right.
@TheMrFlyBoy18
@TheMrFlyBoy18 4 жыл бұрын
Its possible to run E85. You would have to upgrade the fuel system components and get a tune for it. But if you’re saying just a regular car and the owner tries to put in E85, yeah thats a big hell no. Don’t ever do that.
@ancientaliensarecoming7201
@ancientaliensarecoming7201 4 жыл бұрын
Hey this guy is back!
@YeffRamos
@YeffRamos 6 жыл бұрын
Bart, i told your wife you coming to NY next weekend!
@friskoskiez3761
@friskoskiez3761 4 жыл бұрын
Depending what your car was made for, E-85 helps out LATER in the process. First modifications towards leading E-85 is a full exhaust system, starting with the headers, than a tune, a better intake filter, THAN E-85. Not doing this is a waste of fuel with minimal power gain. This fuel is awesome, but not when the weather is cold.
@rhedinrage1601
@rhedinrage1601 5 жыл бұрын
Never give up on Combustion engines!
@romirsarangi4341
@romirsarangi4341 4 жыл бұрын
Never gonna give them up never gonna let them down
@rickrealestate9222
@rickrealestate9222 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2000 and 2001 truck/car put ethanol free gasoline in both vehicles everything has improved. Gas mileage, overall performance,engine temperatures, reduced idle rpm’s, same Highway speeds at lower rpm’s- drive exact 260 mile route round trip 3X week . Use all grades from 87 thru 91 octane rates.
@iviaverick52
@iviaverick52 2 жыл бұрын
One other point is that ethanol absolutely demolishes typical engine seals, especially in older vehicles. If you love having a big 'ol puddle of oil in your driveway on a regular basis, use E15. If it wasn't for that fact, it would be a great consideration for a lot of folks.
@jorgeramirez-tr2ov
@jorgeramirez-tr2ov 5 жыл бұрын
Helped me with a school project thank you donut
@aaronburratwood.6957
@aaronburratwood.6957 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah!👋🏻😃 Fire in the bathroom!
@Drzika8000
@Drzika8000 6 жыл бұрын
Here in Brazil ethanol is obtained by sugar cane fermentation This process is make in really large scale So, most of the new cars sold in Brazil can use ethanol, gasoline or both at the same time This usage in large scale begined in the 2000's when the governament started do incentivate the usage of a fuel that coud be used on most of the new cars and wasn't so dependent on oil price due to the oil crysis
@karlwashere123
@karlwashere123 6 жыл бұрын
My car gets significantly better gas mileage when I avoid ethanol
@3O2MuStAnG
@3O2MuStAnG 6 жыл бұрын
That's normal as ethanol naturally burns more efficiently than gasoline. You still save money as ethanol is a lot cheaper depending where you live while increasing the power potential of your engine. It's good for the environment, too.
@karlwashere123
@karlwashere123 6 жыл бұрын
@@3O2MuStAnG I have a turbo kit on a 3.5 VQ Putting 349 down at the wheel. Not only do I get valve chatter during cold start ups with ethanol but sluggish pedal response all around. And although the price is negligible when comparing the two types of gasoline almost all ethanol laced gas in my area is 15%.
@atomicmillenial9728
@atomicmillenial9728 6 жыл бұрын
OneTT It really does depend where you live. In Australia E10 is the "cheap" fuel and is generally avoided since most cars run like ass on it. E85 on the other hand is fairly uncommon at the pumps and is usually 40-50 cents MORE expensive than petrol.
@Sandi_shores_lands_fish
@Sandi_shores_lands_fish 6 жыл бұрын
@@atomicmillenial9728 is it a question of whether the cars poor performance on that fuel can be tuned to run ok
@jeep13ca
@jeep13ca 5 жыл бұрын
The better mileage is due to the fact that the power density of ethanol is lower than that of gasoline. So to get same amount of heat out of the fuel you need to use more of it.
@joekoy7495
@joekoy7495 5 жыл бұрын
As an owner of a 1971 Datsun 240z (twin carbs) Efuel is a disaster, when the fuel is fresh the cars starts and runs just fine however, if I let it sit as little of 2 weeks the fuel becomes useless, the car refuses to start properly and once started it will not run properly, it refuses to idle and drive as it should, I have to drain the gas and put fresh gas into it , problem goes away, strangely, fuel injected cars are not effected by the same problem. Also, I noticed that my fuel filter (the reusable cleanable glass job) keeps getting clogged with what can be described as a very fine mud...color is tan, not sure what that is all about. I'm in Las Vegas so water absorption from the air should not be an issue, As the car is not a daily driver I do not keep any fuel in it, I put in couple of gallons at a time when its to be driven. Its a PITA but it is what it is.
@americansmark
@americansmark 5 жыл бұрын
Put E15 aka Unleaded 88 in my car yesterday and set off the emissions CEL. GM says I can run it, but it still freaks out the system. Gonna switch to E85 this summer so I can make more power.
@jerkimerjames3545
@jerkimerjames3545 5 жыл бұрын
I'm the nerd here. We have to make ethanol as a byproduct of feed for livestock and inputs for many Agra chemicals. Washer fluid, de-icing chemicals, feedstocks for thousands of products. If we used more ethanol for transport, it would help our obesity epidemic. The tech is here now but it takes leadership to balance out our resource consumption.
@tenlugggaming2341
@tenlugggaming2341 5 жыл бұрын
First Donut Media video where the subscribe button satisfyingly and perfectly aligns with their template.
@jorgem.alonso5409
@jorgem.alonso5409 4 жыл бұрын
Get this guy back!
@GustavoSilva-xr3cv
@GustavoSilva-xr3cv 6 жыл бұрын
Here in Brazil ethanol is made of sugar cane and is as common as gas, so every car that is built here has a corrosion protection, since all of our gasoline has some ethanol in it. The more you know *rainbows
@spencertaylorcrowe
@spencertaylorcrowe 5 жыл бұрын
E85 turns my 2010 ford escape 3.0l Dohc v6 (flex fuel) into a freaking beast. The fun part is when the rpms get into 4k range it feels like it's taking off like a jet 😂
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