$300 eBay Coilovers vs. $2500 Coilovers - Is it worth it?

[@misterdinner3648]

All im learning from this series is that when I finally get a project car I just have to build the mid car that this series did not feature.

[@dominictalcott351]

I bought a project car because of this series 😂

[@justinleonard2304]

Dominic Talcott what car

[@kunimiy212]

Lo Team missed one major factor; lo team should at minimum be a parts upgrade to stock; no name coil over for $300..... they went ricer mode with the welded diff; they could of cut the coil, they have things that compress the coil as well

[@misterdinner3648]

@@kunimiy212 Rice stands for racing inspired cosmetic enhancements. Welding the diff is not rice, its a performance enhancement that makes power delivery more consistent and allows cars to drift, and its really common. Cutting the springs isnt considered rice either because it just lowers the car and makes it handle better.

[@sakethkanumuri1280]

Mister Dinner cutting the springs is definitely ricer.

[@jh1328]

THIS is what car channels should be doing with their money.

[@00100000station]

Agreed.

[@joselovestamales256]

Donut Media coming in clutch

[@ColdBrewLobster]

I hope they're already working a new pair of cars.

[@tumsfestival8027]

No bro we need to see a new Supra get a widebody with cheap parts lol

[@lengerer]

Next video: donut media goes supercar shopping

[@christopherkatz9484]

We really need to see Aaron more often. He's got a great attitude and is super skilled in everything

[@vinhnguyen8126]

You should do a cheap vs expensive turbo kit for more hrspwrs

[@TheChicaneLounge]

…yikes

[@ChillPillDyl]

Eh lol

[@lafcadiothelion]

Should’ve tested times before the coil over swaps

[@TheJackster25]

@Zeksteve It's expected. People think stock suspension is garbage but in reality its much better than most coilover systems. You need hours and track testing and adjustment to actually match stock suspension. Moral of story? Upgrade the tires and wheel setup before even touching ur suspension bolts folks.

[@blue04mx53]

@@TheJackster25 I agree.I am novice to all this so, all I know is what I've seen on youtube and what people have told me trackside. So far everything I've seen about coilovers seems to emphasize the fact that they are adjustable for different tracks and track conditions. I hope someone can point me to a video about how to decide how to adjust them. What factors do you need to consider ? What do you look for on track that helps you decide how to adjust them. And is it easy to adjust coilovers during a track day? Another thing they didn't do or talk about was whether or not they needed to do an alignment after the coilovers were installed.

[@woah.montana]

LafcadioTheLion and engine too

[@driftchaochao]

Blue 04 MX 5 before adjusting the suspension set up, you first need to have proper tires, tire pressure, good ride height, alignment and corner balance. KW for instance, they provide you a recommended setting. It’s usually a good starting point. To test if the set up is right for the track you are driving, you need to pay attention to the car behaviour during corner entry, mid corner, corner exit. If you get entry understeer/oversteer, then you need to adjust from compression and rear rebound (1 at a time), if you get exit understeer/oversteer, you need to adjust front rebound and rear compression (1 at a time too). In mid corner, it is then related to spring stiffness & anti-roll bar.

[@driftchaochao]

Blue 04 MX 5 everything is related to vehicle dynamics basically. And there are bunch of stuff to learn. For example, lowering a car can lower your center of gravity, but your roll center also drops at the same time. And it drops more than COG. That actually increase the distance between COG and roll center, which results more roll. Body roll is not a bad thing and does not affect load transfer, but it is bad for your alignment and aero drag.

[@semicolton]

4:15 I thought I saw 2 nolans, freaked out for a second, fearing for the world's milk supply.

[@Michigangminibikes]

Colton Heasley true

[@danielfyffe4]

Don't let this distract you from the fact that Lando Norris exists...

[@gerhardhillmann1]

Was that Nolan's little brother?

[@TheDennys21]

And that other guy looks like James too, holy shit!

[@infowazz]

i lost track half way through

[@genericallyaccepted]

I spent $800 on some Megan Racing coilovers on a 92 SC400 and I was totally stoked with them. Great daily ride, dropped maybe 3/4", felt great.

[@trumanhw]

Jack Black is car building !??

[@figbat6363]

I was looking at some for my 02 maxima. Megan racing makes pretty good products from what I've heard

[@fiddynutz68]

I got Megan's for $650 for a GTO and they were awesome, I needed knew springs and it was basically the same price for different springs and decent shocks.

[@liluzicorndog6059]

please bring back science garage i miss barto :,(

[@Austin-H97]

He left Donut I believe.

[@feke5987]

@@Austin-H97 Yep, he has a family to take care of as well. But would love to see him come back though.

[@9nineofdiamonds]

@@feke5987 Damn, he better be a family man

[@huleyn135]

It's not going to happen, there is a reddit post about it. And they aren't going to bring back science garage with another host because they rightly believe that Bart basically made science garage what it was.

[@stevencrellin9842]

He’s gone man

[@thespissak]

Should've done a control test with stock suspension first. Regardless, I'm surprised with the results

[@biscuits336]

I agree with this comment.

[@Erik-ek9du]

Unless it was brand new shocks in both cars a control wouldn't have been fair.

[@thespissak]

@@Erik-ek9du it's not meant as a fair test, just as a baseline comparison to see if it's actually worth the effort.

[@alil1294]

Ah yes.

[@weirdbeardgarage]

I think the short slalom course was too short to see any difference in the suspension. Even a small autocross course (or a proper track) would have been a better comparison. But still, I know you guys don't have huge budgets and big film crews, so I get that things have to be scaled down a bit. Awesome series anyway!

[@psychward2315]

It would have been interesting they had also done a baseline test with the stock set up to see if either kit is a significant improvement over stock.

[@DoubtingThomas333]

I got news for you, crap all difference if ANY AT ALL.

[@OfficialSolDios]

Yep, $300 coilovers on a 50k retail car.

[@jonathanfelise-cramer9273]

I’m glad you made this for sure tomorrow and we will

[@Swedester]

@@DoubtingThomas333 tell me you’ve never modded a car without telling me you’ve never modded a car

[@an-dr6eu]

@@Swedester thats dumb

[@The_knifeaholic]

This series helped me get interesting in modifying cars thanks I’m broke now

[@tighe143]

#moneypitgang

[@ticosug5319]

I stg😂😂😂

[@secretdad544]

LMAO cheaper than being married and divorced - enjoy!!!

[@J-algo-the-first]

*Yours is three times bigger* That's the type of discussion I have with friends

[@sultanhassan2505]

You gay

[@gadsden472]

Gotta give you props for being comfortable enough being so much smaller to pointthat fact out to your friends

[@R.Sinnia]

Say no homo

[@user-ik3xr3eh3m]

3x0=0

[@pookys1780]

me and my friend are all around the same length i'm 6-1/2 but my friend who's 6'0 has a 9incher *we're in 8th grade*

[@thomashart9304]

After years of playing around in many expensive hobbies, I have discovered exactly what they did- practice and experience make way more difference than throwing money at it. Only the best drivers can get the most out of the high dollar mods, so in the beginning spend your time and money on gas and track time

[@OkieDokieSmokie]

Track time isnt gonna make my honda fit spin tires.....

[@romerojonathan07]

@@OkieDokieSmokie E😈😈😈😠bcfc

[@wx2999]

Gas, track time, tires, and weight reduction (especially your personal weight)

[@Ooooyerr]

This series was a dope idea.. you should turn it into a show

[@randomamericansoldier8586]

It is a show

[@Cygnus0lor]

Series and show are the same thing...

[@keking2178]

It is! Wtf u talking about

[@justaguy6415]

I think he meant to say TV show

[@AAAA-nv5cf]

HE SAID IT FOR ATTENTION

[@Dankboi420]

Next: $10 Chinese vape kit vs $300 Japanese custom vape mod

[@somedudenamedryan]

Nah there saving that for season 2 when theyre building WRXs

[@spam4239]

69th like

[@gretre4560]

Bruh😂 nice. I literally lol'ed

[@knoleng8590]

4:29

[@Jacob_6420]

10 dollar all day duh

[@chincemagnet]

I put Öhlins on my Evo X, the difference was incredible, my favorite mod out of pretty much almost anything performance related you can imagine on a 600 HP Evo Can’t remember what paid for them, $2200 I think, totally worth it. When you consider a 100 HP gain on the Evo would cost you triple that for all the parts and tuning, I’d recommend getting the coilovers as one of your first big mods since the benefit to handling will make you much less likely to accidentally wreck your car Actually, I ramped a ditch trying to avoid a deer and they held up fine and I still had just enough ground clearance to avoid damaging anything. Although, to be fair, I set my ride height a little higher than most people due to the crappy roads where I live

[@Lofi.z34]

"... and one Z gets cheap parts" literally half of my Z friends lol

[@Lofi.z34]

I think on a longer track the higher priced coilovers would come up top by a small margin. Especially high speed cornering where the whole car is at its traction limit.

[@raaaaaaaaaaahhhhh]

I have no Z friends... :(

[@StoneCoolds]

Teens are killing all Zs out there, in a few years they will be just a mith that people claim to have seen but its existence isnt confirmed lol

[@timesweeper9778]

@@StoneCoolds just like 240SXs

[@nickbyrwa9188]

NovorSec i have 2 Z friends and they both take so much better care than their previous owners who were clearly not caring for the car at all.

[@Taayter]

I'm so glad this series is on KZbin now!

[@reyvinsiegel9386]

Y'all should do a luxury/comfort edition! I love to see the options on a season like that!

[@KiraOniiChan]

I love how James makes Nolan the low team and he wants to crush him with his high end parts lol

[@abdennourbentaieb2125]

james :" i am also a really competitve person and i want to destroy the other team" also james : loses 4 times in a row and eats the hottest chip in the world

[@jabadahutt]

It’s so crazy to see how far you guys have come throughout the years. I absolutely love your videos man.

[@kyssmyass]

Lol and now everyone quit 😂

[@brechtdelaet6495]

I love it that nos doesn't sponsor anymore sins James got a heart attack. I'm happy your back James!!!

[@zee_rowe]

this is a very old series from facebook

[@Furyyuriy]

@@zee_rowe very old? This was like 2 months ago.

[@zee_rowe]

@@Furyyuriy All I know is that I watched this months ago

[@leanmeangreenbeanmachine3347]

Despite not being caused by NOS, it’s obviously not a good brand image

[@Pingandlucky]

I don’t know the story here... but if he had a heart attack while boosting on NOS - isn’t that the BEST advertising you can get for how much punch your car could have on NOS??

[@PaganiGaming]

Day 49 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad

[@SavageBunny1]

Still here supporting you bro!

[@swalehaahmad2243]

Yep

[@gsjourney3054]

He’s still not feeling good no up to speeds for a min he’s healing from the heart attack

[@rookieman329]

keep it up, almost 2 months let's keep going

[@jcaj9002]

James's is not a car

[@jackmason9550]

I am so stoked to be 3 years late to this party so that I can binge watch this series! I loved the Time Attack cars, being a former owner of an '06 WRX myself, and I have loved the 350Z and drift for many years as well. This playlist looks like it's going to be very exciting! Let the adventure begin!

[@hMint]

I personally think that you should do everything on the "low" z on the driveway like the average person who buys cheaper parts would be doing

[@michaelmoseley7566]

I freaking love Hi - Lo you get to actually see the difference between crap and the really good stuff.

[@donnyberger907]

it’s almost like… that’s the point

[@habibullahsiddiqui8167]

The Golden Era of Donut and KZbin

[@ncrtrooper2361]

“If you want to be faster, the biggest thing you can do is practice, and get better at driving” *Thats the whole premise of Initial D*

[@benjaminchen4367]

When you drop a car with coilovers, you need supporting mods to alter the rest of the steering geometry so that it works with the lowered setup, like bump steer and roll center correction, wheel alignment (and wheel alignment mods like camber plates, lower control arms, toe arms, etc), etc

[@ayoubfarid1663]

how about a camber kit?

[@benjaminchen4367]

@@ayoubfarid1663 anything that lets you adjust the camber, caster, or toe fits under the "wheel alignment" category so yeah, sometimes you will need a camber kit

[@chicago_beats]

You nake sense because THERE ISNT NO VIDEO WITH COILOVERS LIFTED

[@gnutscha]

thank you for pointing it out, its a big missconception that lower = better.

[@gatoLOCOplayloselaughwin]

I love this series. Especially watching you living the dream of just bolting stuff onto cars and getting along with it. Here in Germany you‘d have a lot of problems with those eBay parts. For every modification you need to have the “TÜV” acknowledge and certify it with that very car. It’s expensive and without proper papers going with the parts you put in, which have to be specific to that very model of car, you won’t be able to get it certified and therefore couldn’t put it into your car (without losing insurance and basically be driving an “illegal” car). It’s so nice to see you guys just having that freedom of modification ✨

[@dallscowboys88]

11:05 love how he just knows from the sound

[@jrdiossa]

James... you are back!!! Wish you the best of recoveries and health from now on!!

[@exotixblizzy7149]

Idk if he's back but this is a pre recorded series that was uploaded on Facebook back in early September

[@drm9979]

I never really got comfortable with even a very expensive set of coil-overs for my GTO, until I got KWs. They made driving it a blast again. Stock comfort with coilover weight savings and performance.

[@thomash2897]

Definitely going to look into some new mid priced CoilOvers! I am so excited and thankful for your suggestion as I myself I starting to get into cars.

[@YaBoiRenegade]

When is cheap turbo's vs expensive turbo's gonna happen?

[@Tactical-Black]

I've seen a turbo grenade and destroy a mildly built engine I'm good, I don't like rebuilding or repairing just to prove it can be done dirt cheap, sometimes you want to buy reliability and piece of mind

[@MEECH247]

@@Tactical-Black nobody is asking you to spend money on builds or repair anything. His asking donut media.

[@HappyFruits648]

Kareem Colebrooke who tf was asking u lmao

[@chicago_beats]

Exactly

[@exhibitdeveloper]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3yYdaeKedGFrbM

[@brandondeel3567]

I'm coming back to watch these again since I just picked up an 06 350z and it needs a lot of work.

[@saltykaptain5953]

FINALLY!!! As a non facebook person i've waited so long for this

[@lovirfps]

how long would a car fully built with ebay parts last 😂

[@rookieman329]

about a mile

[@99mintaltezza2]

Bought some blue line lowering Springs for 200 euro there not Ebay but still mint 4 years later

[@michalgc12]

just look at brad's car in build & battle season 2

[@asianprodigyproductions5477]

Longer than you think

[@LorenzoClara97]

@@99mintaltezza2 springs are springs. Never need to change them. The shock absorber life may vary

[@glavxy7743]

It's so cool seeing Father and son doing a project

[@jens_sk8692]

he james im glad your back love you

[@DubovyPaul]

you're

[@SavageBunny1]

@@DubovyPaul wHo tHoUGhT yOu hOw tO sPoKe?!

[@kratokat3431]

Are you having a stroke?

[@RandomSauce28]

Shiv kap did he actually have a heart attack?

[@sirpingsalot3558]

Shiv kap that’s why they lost their nos sponsorship

[@justaguy6100]

It's hard for me to see a lift as a "basic tool."

[@aaronjones356]

Hopefully your car came with a jack, which works just as well...

[@justaguy6100]

@@aaronjones356 Oh you say so, but having changed out a CV axle with a jack vs a lift, I can tell you, a lift SURE makes it easier. I noticed, since they had one available, they used that rather than the jack. And I bet if you're really honest, maneuvering a strut as tall as some of these are beneath the space you get with a jack would be pretty difficult and occasionally impossible.

[@brandoncheek2597]

@@justaguy6100 I changed out the shocks on a taurus on jack stands, chill out. You don't need a lift, they're just ideal.

[@justaguy6100]

@@brandoncheek2597 First I have no need to chill, in one of my prior comments I note changing out a CV axle with a jack. I realize it's possible but saying it's easy when your demonstration doesn't show it well.. it does require some clearance that isn't always easy to get with just a jack and stands. I CERTAINLY would have preferred a lift for that job. But ya use what ya got ;-) For me it would definitely be a factor, though when considering swapping out something that's a tad optional rather than necessary. JS That said, I DO enjoy the channel and the comparisons of inexpensive vs top dollar replacements/upgrades. I'm a subscriber, so again, no need for me to "chill." Regardless of the comparative difficulty of some of these tasks, knowing what the difference between the inexpensive vs expensive upgrades does have a value for me. Maybe I'm just a tad envious eh? I WISH I had a garage with that equipment available to me.

[@Paguyuban_tepa_selira]

Ikr ?

[@hazelsam13]

Sometimes I just rewatch this episode cuz y’all are awesome. Fan since 2020

[@justgrayyy105]

When you realize that James’s strut is 3x bigger than yours

[@JapaneseSoomi]

lol

[@stevehicks662]

thats what his wife said

[@didibiwi6150]

Rewatching this just to see something different

[@Shakshuka69]

There's so much to learn about shocks alone. This is just the cover of the book!

[@FroztiProductions]

Why was it re-uploaded??

[@didibiwi6150]

@@FroztiProductions It was uploaded on Facebook

[@FroztiProductions]

@@didibiwi6150 That's so weird. I remember it on youtube. I thought I was losing my mind as everyone comments like it's new.

[@didibiwi6150]

@@FroztiProductions They were telling us on KZbin to go and watch it on Facebook maybe that's why you remember it that way

[@TheConjurersTower]

That oil sponsorship bit was one of the most advertisementy advertisement I've ever seen on KZbin; the walking for no reason, the over the top examples, it was the perfect amount of cheese. 11/10 would watch the ad again.

[@anthonyarmstrong5012]

It’s just like every car you’ve seen at sonic 😂

[@randomamericansoldier8586]

Lol

[@sethparrow04]

I just saw that part and then saw your comment

[@spawnraiser12]

@@randomamericansoldier8586 you can tell (0(9(9(9(9(9(9(

[@spawnraiser12]

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[@spawnraiser12]

@@randomamericansoldier8586 I lpglpgkoy plot help me k

[@mstrtrv]

Great video, I really enjoyed the level of effort given to keep the cars evenly matched. I feel though the testing might have been a bit flawed. The true value of great suspension is its ability to keep the tire planted on the ground for consistent traction while cornering or accelerating. While the slalom course was a great choice for the testing, a slalom course with much wider longer corners with areas of uneven road would really allow the value of adjustable rebound and compression to really shine. Imagine, during a long high speed corner you encounter a bump. The suspensions ability to react to and get the tire back on the ground quickly while not upsetting the balance of the car makes the difference between losing a few inches off your line and meeting the outside wall. Round 2 please.

[@short7066]

2:58 Boys when in locker room

[@mdctt9021]

Lmao

[@bigwilly519]

"yours is 3 times bigger"

[@Feather__]

LMFAOOOOOOOO

[@justinelizalde5503]

😂😂

[@StanleyKubick1]

*white boys in the locker room

[@numberoneguest3435]

KZbin: "How many Midrolls can we put in this video?" Also KZbin: "Yes."

[@TravisBartoshek]

wayne wya XBiscuit shows up slaps roof: “Bro, I heard you like ads?!?...” George Clooney: “You son-of-a-bich, I’m in...”

[@sevenOG]

Exactly why I used Adblock

[@samadrid6321]

I would get the EBay coilovers because I have a green 1975 Ford Pinto, so they would match the car.

[@lukassoderberg6382]

And you dont want to put too much money into it, incase its gas tank ignites. sorry could not miss the oportunity

[@zart3374]

@@lukassoderberg6382 lol

[@surgicalglitch3265]

Coilovers make negligible differences in terms of speed from A to B, but they are critical when shaving time off a track and safety when you have a project car that's capable of pushing big numbers around that chicane. When you need that customization a high quality set like KW's or in my case D2's, is a must.

[@benedekpal6136]

I would have loved it if they had done a run with the original setup for comparison, just to see how much the upgrade is worth considering the price.

[@unuseableb]

03:30 *laughs in rusted 33 year old volvo suspension* ....The first bolt took an afternoon

[@rex_s80]

unjuseabble I’m lucky my 20 year old volvo was so easy lol 😂. I still should have probably used some rust penetrant since it was the first time the rear shocks were done since it was made and it lived in a rust prone country.

[@qbadger6966]

It took me 2 harbor freight wrenches, and massive breaker bar to get the stock suspension off my 37 year old vw jetta

[@rex_s80]

Qbadger 🤣

[@unuseableb]

@@qbadger6966 Thats actually lucky. Working on my rusty bmw's rear subframe I broke 3 of the bolts into the pushings with a breaker bar. Those things had melted into the pushings far enough that you couldnt punch them out so we had to melt the pushings with a torch to take apart the lower suspension arms.... Salt on the road at winter really makes wonders for an old car

[@deltacharlieecho4732]

You guys really hammer those maxpeedingrods coilovers. I just swapped them into my e46 and I can tell you that they really aren't that bad. If you just need a new suspension and want to add some low, they're a killer deal. I'd be willing to bet that if low car was to revisit the low car suspension and swap in the new maxpeedingrods with adjustable dampening, you'll see a huge improvement in the quality. The company has been doing a killer job of listening to feedback and adjusting; They're still cutting corners on less important parts of the coils but I can say I am thoroughly impressed with the parts I received with my order. I'd like to see a revisit on some of the parts and do a part 3. Maybe get the plastidip off of low car, get high car a full on custom paint job, stuff like that. That said, I really want to see low car get an updated set of the coils, and see how much better it is for them.

[@AndrewB23]

It's cool you're happy with them but the results wouldn't be different it's still a terrible very cheaply made coilover

[@CerealFapist]

How did they hold up??

[@chrisssinstockholm]

KW are awesome. Had a series 3 on my Audi A3 Quattro. The recomended setting was spot on perfect. Stainless steel is great for swedish winter. Great clip. High quality content. Thanks. Subbed.

[@boxoffisa]

Do you recommend kw on skoda?

[@chrisssinstockholm]

@@boxoffisa I have no personal experience but I have great confidence in KW. Good luck.

[@boxoffisa]

@@chrisssinstockholm thanks mate. Will try.

[@yusufhaekal8859]

2:45 exactly what my girl say after i open up "my hood"

[@em1ownerify]

My mk6 gti i put on koni 1150s with dampened adjustments and my god you guys. It’s what makes the car that much more comfortable. Only complaints are they rust alittle but some of the best coils I’ve had. They were 1300 dollars when I got them. Worth every penny

[@YaleYouthHockey99]

Ebay Coilovers: You $2500 Coilovers: The guy she told you not to worry about

[@coastyken7370]

🤣🤣🤣

[@jesseincognito.]

Why ya gotta do me like that

[@serialgrillaz6669]

Great show, it does miss out on the mid range market where most of us sit when purchasing our aftermarket parts though. Next show high/mid/low?

[@gachaharemseries2029]

Money pit is mid car

[@hzpc]

@@gachaharemseries2029 I'm new to modifying, can you explain why?

[@gachaharemseries2029]

@@hzpc donut also had another show about modifying cars with a budget, it's called money pit, there the guy from hi low, Zach jobe modified a NA Miata with mid budget in mind

[@MichaelGG123]

Imagine “super low”. Build them suckers ya self!

[@mikejackson9585]

FYI, Anyone buying the cheap coilovers may consider upgrading the rear springs with a $200 12k rate option spring from BC or Megan (also Eibach makes a pair to order for reasonable money and allows you to keep the lower rate but have a longer spring). All options allow a normal ride, which is worth a lot of improvement to the ride and performance. But note the stiffer spring options may run the shock into the ground earlier than the basic Ebay offering.

[@TheChrisLeone]

11:26 "aw dude that's better, right?" "I don't think so" This kind of reminds me of the time I ran over a deer skull in my old car and somehow severed my ABS line, I just was like "we'll call this an upgrade, just like the exhaust leak". Toyotas just don't seem to stop no matter how much you drive them, as long as you're driving them to begin with. I let that car sit for 3 weeks once and it felt like it aged more in those 3 weeks than the 3 years I'd owned it. Was a 2007 and I was able to sell it for a decent sum and that sumbitch is still on the road. No one looking for used cars in that price range right now is that concerned about things like that as long as the car isn't gonna break down

[@esnevip]

That feel when you enjoy this series but almost none of the mods are available for your car...

[@nahid1981]

Usually I love to watch/subscribe DIY videos/channels but this video made me subscribe to your channel just because of your cool conversation and to the point talking at the same time. Really loved it.

[@Trenchboi69]

Ebay niggas clicked fast af

[@RubyXIII]

😭

[@Man-of-Steel674]

😀

[@vinjudah5074]

Lol straight tf up!

[@edwimages]

@Jay Kune just stfu

[@midwxlks]

@Jay Kune stfu niggaaa

[@Ryukachoo]

3:26 Hopefully AFTER wheels and tires? Because ride/handling impact per dollar spent, a new set of shoes is the best you can ask for

[@Hole_Motorsports]

Ryukachoo and an alignment

[@ramshacks9493]

I just ordered KW Coilovers on my 2012 Chrysler 300 base and their the best company I ever bought

[@brysonh6507]

I can't wait till this show comes back

[@delrey36]

This is an awesome show guys. I was just getting ready to replace the suspension on my AE86. Wanted to know if it was really worth going for the top of the line parts. I’ll save my money and go for something middle of the road but built with quality after watching this. I’ll use the money I save to get some decent seats. Thanks Donut!

[@elliotspirrett7752]

I think the point made above was really interesting about the idea that adding coilovers is automatically better: the OEM parts are designed, tested, redesigned, retested, etc. etc. for that car. Seems like if you're going to go down the suspension route, get something specific for you car and have it properly set up by someone who knows their shit inside out.

[@elliotspirrett7752]

Seems like basically tyres are the answer to improvements

[@itsyournamehere]

Check out MaxSpeedingRods.

[@Jimanderson124]

Yeah use your money on your AE86 in forza? Gta5? LMAO keep dreaming

[@eve5150]

​@@Jimanderson124lol what?

[@georgiosmichas5861]

Hi/low and money pit are by far THE BEST series ever existed! Authentic,super diy friendly and educational as well! Love you channel guys awesome work! PS. I know exactly where your 350s are sitting right now and I got to say they totally and rightfully belong there! Keep it up donut team!

[@InvincibleExtremes]

Wow, exactly as expected... the cheap coilovers got the job done as needed, and I'm sure some things could've been optimized even more with out spending a ton

[@arcanevoid9199]

not really any replacement for good suspension, which is not cheap. cheap ebay coil overs often work, but not well. a good set of shocks and lowering springs are often far better

[@mrbas1c]

We miss this

[@peterbrazeal7171]

You guys are on another level, Its like old Top Gear. Love you guys

[@ranran2806]

It’s a cool test but there’s some issues with the experiment itself. 1. Suspension fine tuning, alignment, and corner balancing wasn’t utilized. New Coilovers means the alignment on the car isn’t balanced anymore. A proper alignment and fine tuning will make the car handle on a dime. 2. The test was pathetic to say the least. They did a moose test and concluded that it determines how well the suspension handles . The KWs weren’t pushed to the limit. The test would have been better if ran on a race circuit or a canyon road. 3. The heat in the tires over time plays a role on grip. They did however get the conclusion right, expensive Coilovers are beneficial and worth the money for people who care about how well their car handles. If you’re looking to just lower your car and cruise around, the expensive Coilovers aren’t necessary

[@cccEngineer]

I was thinking pretty much the same thing. The test wasn't done very well.

[@hellion1770]

Looking at the size i was sure they got the green set for a Micra.

[@mustpotato41]

Happy first anniversary hi-low

[@thejuice_2273]

Hey James looking good boss keep up the good work and nice to see you 🙏🏼

[@saucecode5276]

Allen Adams this is a old video that was posted on Facebook month ago. So this is pre heart attack James.

[@rookieman329]

@@saucecode5276 when is post-heart attack James coming?

[@novansumarta8378]

that envy looks on Nolan when James reviewing his coilover is exactly me when i saw someone explaining something i cant afford.... 😆

[@presentmic3605]

I discovered yall thru the Recommendations on turbo Hilow vid.And I must say, this is maybe my favorite channel if it comes to car enthusiats! I really the teamand especially Aaron! Greetings from Germany!

[@RideBGKY]

Go buy Ohlins for that price.... I'm on that band wagon, but they're just that much nicer.

[@suricateenerve165]

stop with ohlins. there is brand like Nitron wich are far better at the same price.

[@RideBGKY]

@@suricateenerve165 whatever ya like :) if it makes you excited, and faster then go for it!

[@RideBGKY]

@Green Giant :'(

[@GamerCheatsForAll]

Green isrrrr

[@GamerCheatsForAll]

Green Giant ereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee e erree e

[@ryanceplecha233]

You should get a third 350 and keep it stock. Then run lap times to see how these upgrades compare. That way there’s a control group in these tests. Kind of like what Top Gear did with the Renault Avantime.

[@familysquad5716]

this channels a part of my daily days now

[@robertmitchell832]

Everytime I see these comparisons there is one major oversite... make sure the spring rates are at least close to the same.

[@ljzm3]

Robert Mitchell lets see what the shock dyno results comparing these 2. Maybe next time get real coil overs like MCS or JRZ with proper spring frequencies for the weight of the car. Gotta give them credit they managed to get a view from me.

[@DjScorpius]

@@ljzm3 exactly, it has nothing to do with price but all with actual testing, like you stated shock dyno. These videos are so stupid.

[@PokeFit3]

Completely agree my eBay suspension was chosen for cost($260)and spring rate(10k) it's a bit much with 25mm preload on a 27xx lb car and it will burst kidneys but on decent roads with hard corners it really does world's better than stock.

[@waengwang5313]

@@ljzm3 bruh the point is to test expensive and cheap consumer stuff that you can go buy rn

[@waengwang5313]

@@DjScorpius ok, than there you go, the whole point of the video was to test just that "is more expensive better" don't know why you think its stupid lol

[@johnsonjae]

I know I'm late to the game, but would love to see a revisit. Just installed $300 adjustable Coilovers on my Ride, and after adjusting as I wanted, I was amazed at the ride quality. SOLID cornering and Handling. The coilovers definitely lacked something in the fit n finish aspect. I even had to use knuckle spacers to get a tight fit, but ride quality is definitely there.... makes me think about budget choices moving forward.

[@Whoisitthatknowsyourthinking]

What ones did you buy

[@Phuong_Nguyen_]

@@Whoisitthatknowsyourthinkingmost likely eBay. All the cheap ones are made at the same factory, just branded different names

[@nicholasmihail9270]

I have a 2010 chrysler 300c awd on kw V2's and agree they are the best coilovers I've daily driven... little cheaper but smooth

[@jdm603jake]

10:41 first glance almost looked like a Paul walker look a like running the camera lol

[@StasRyadinsky]

I thought so too, especially at 12:43

[@jdm603jake]

@@StasRyadinsky yeah man that one shows it even more for sure how crazy

[@raaaaaaaaaaahhhhh]

As tools you forgot to include: the lift

[@richardkelchlin8395]

Zach is great I'm glad he got his own show

[@Mizaeducation]

At 2:54 you could've said (yours is way bigger than mine) 😂

[@mimiperator6505]

That's one fit looking James. Glad you're doing better! Btw, I dont want to be like a stupid little kid, but can I get a heart so everyone sees that Donut Media cares about their followers comments?

[@mimiperator6505]

I know it sounds like I'm begging for it, but it's just a try.

[@midu7467]

I've had ebay coilovers for over a decade on my civic, they've finally sh** the bed. Just ordered my second pair yesterday. so in over 10yrs I've spent 600 on coilovers, can't beat that. To be fair I only drive to work and to drop my kids off at school 😆 no track days here lol

[@s19pajua13]

Coilovers that cheap would actually do worse than stock for sure. They should have bought a new oem set as I bet that would probably be the wisest choice

[@ksull72487]

I agree. OEM or Mid to Upper end. Especially is your cars a BMW M2 or something. My car has aluminum hat discs etc. Used for heat dissipation anything aftermarket will be solid steel. As a BMW guy I prefer ceramic pads. BMWs are a break dust magnet. The car was engineered that way. The stock BMW pads will bite better than a Ceramic retrofit. Depending on the car and what your trying to do usually stock is the best option. At 2,500 for coil overs just start saving for a Lamborghini or something more performance oriented than a 350Z. Lol

[@djl-g9y]

This deserves to be on netflix

[@YxngDxtch]

Your ads are the only ones I don’t skip …

[@danigoruff536]

It would've been more helpful or insightful if they tested a name brand strut. So it would've been a matter of convenient name-brand strut vs. Performance struts. Obviously anything from Ebay like that, without a brand, isn't worth buying in the first place.

[@manz7860]

Like he said. If you dont care about comfortability, green is the way to go

[@ChrisPBacon9]

@@manz7860 at that point he would've been better off with $250 lowering springs. They ended up ditching these anyways for megan racing coilovers

[@User37123-l]

Ok coilover connoisseur sorry they didn’t make the video exactly how you wanted it

[@Industry-insider]

I’ve had the same cheap ones on my e46 M3 for over a year and they have been great other than the slight clunk when I hit large bumps

[@geoffreyanderson4719]

" the slight clunk "

[@shrekvt]

You guys missed the biggest point of the KWs, which is dampening and rebound adjustability. Cross balance. And otherwise stiffen up for the track, adjust front to rear balance. And soften up for the ride home.

[@anticipayo]

This experiment stinks of confirmation bias. Next experiment, don’t let the drivers know what coils they are using

[@mantis_toboggan_md]

More better.

[@ryanwhitlock7350]

I get what you're saying, but they'd probably be able to immediately pick out which coil-overs were the nice ones anyways. And nothing changes the fact that the KWs were much better to work with

[@burtonporter8437]

They’d know

[@Reploidx9]

@@mantis_toboggan_md That bugged me for ages.

[@1MCS]

I also got the KW 3 and I can only recommend them to anyone! They cost a lot, but they are really worth the extra cash 🤙🏽 It also helped so much to get the fitment (coils, spacer & camber) perfect! 🔥🔥

[@mikeknapp318]

I'm doing my $ 400 coilovers tomorrow.Rev9 hyper streety basic.I have a 2013 hyundai sonata 2.0t limited.My stockers are worn out.So hopefully it doesn't just kill my ride quality?The build Quality looks impressive so will see what happens.Doing a 4 wheel rotor and pad change at the same time.Should be an all day job.The rears on this car are difficult from what I've heard and involves removing parts of the rear suspension to remove the rotors so I figured why not just change the suspension while I'm at it.I liked your video and was feeling pretty good until you bursted my bubble with that comparison.I hope my choice goes a little better?Mine have 16 adjustable damping so I hope that makes a difference?Wish me luck.Have a great day and be safe. p.s. I only put Mobil 1 in my cars.Always have always will no exceptions.I may go for the best deals on performance upgrade but i'll never run anything but Mobil 1 in my engines.

[@hvskyline1368]

You should do a cheap vs expensive turbo kit for more hrspwrs