Testing Cheap vs Expensive Screwdrivers

[@joshuamacey6267]

Floor jacks!! So many comparisons could be made and I can only imagine the kind of testing you will put it through!

[@manusb6441]

Yes please!

[@maceface272]

Good idea dude

[@BIGMEME_Retro.trance]

@@turboman12 ProLift brand jack stands are a good brand from experience, the pair was able to hold up a Ford expedition at one end and a jack on the other with weight on the jack stand end. I use them all the time for my needs

[@Psyco913]

Did you not just see Jobe almost end up in the hospital testing a screwdriver? You want these guys to test 6000 lb jacks to failure? Are you trying to kill somebody? 🤣

[@BIGMEME_Retro.trance]

@@Psyco913 the ultimate test!

[@andrewbrinkworth1420]

This has become probably my favourite show on Donut... The chemistry these 2 have is amazing just like James and Nolan and most of the info is super useful not just entertainment... Keep up the good work! Love it!

[@jawbone775]

Same

[@jazzysnazzyjason1491]

Agree

[@samholdsworth420]

Yeah too bad I don't use a wallet or even contemplate buying parts from ebay motors and neither should you

[@YumboYack2521]

Zach and his Miata helped me through the pandemic

[@Valentin-ss9qv]

Loved it the minute they start making videos together

[@kylek29]

We've had the LockPickingLawyer call out and the Legal Eagle crossover, I think it's time we get ProjectFarm in on this. These are right up his alley.

[@TheTyisawesome]

PF tests are the best! That guy truely cares

[@Buckycarson]

Project farm is the OG. The donut guys are my guys so I’m not mad.

[@jeromegrunwald9564]

He does do screwdrivers if I remember correctly

[@oskar6661]

Yeah, ProjectFarm is far more controlled and logical in his tests. The 'Tool Party' tests here are amusing, but PF for real consumer advice.

[@nunyabusiness896]

"Time to mow the garage again"

[@kriscerosaurus]

Fascinating watching y'all rediscover a century+ of safety regs over the course of this series.

[@prothstein]

certain people only really learn by putting their hand in the fire.

[@Owen2108]

@@prothstein You know what they say; chicks dig scars.

[@claytonno2571]

@@Owen2108 my scars are numerous and but the chicks are few.

[@Tenchigumi]

@@claytonno2571 Maybe he meant baby birds.

[@elisefarias3857]

The ones that snapped the steel has a higher carbon content making them less likely to strip but more likely to snap as the steel is harder.

[@garrettroberts7339]

This.

[@specialopsdave]

But still, Snap Off is a hilarious joke to make

[@jonassalazar9419]

That's exactly what I was thinking, just because it snaped instead of bent doesn't make it worse if that's just how the tool would react anyway

[@chyrt]

yes the test is stupid if the force is not measured

[@specialopsdave]

@@jonassalazar9419 Well, a bent tool is still usable

[@EATSxBABIES]

For the "hammer" test if feels like it would be better to test how they treat a sudden and harsh impact. Like say, putting them in a tube covering the bottom 50% and dropping a weight on the handles from a fixed height.

[@mockmilk6461]

Agreed

[@addictedtomoney2196]

Or using an actual hammer/sledgehammer ??

[@propain4518]

100% agree. I only buy drivers with a metal cap on the end specifically for hammering.

[@fatman_slim5]

or at least base it on the amount of force it took to break... you can break anything with enough force... the question is how much...

[@r.j.bedore9884]

I was just about to write this. Or maybe set it up in a power hammer and see how many strikes it can take at a certain force before it's no longer usable.

[@mattr4078]

As someone who has just started building my own tool collection, these videos are great! It's good to know what you can cheap out on and what you shouldn't.

[@franciscorojas274]

If you're building your tool box look at torque test and project farm videos

[@apoplecticwrenchmonkey]

Same here. These videos and Project Farm's videos are insanely useful

[@franciscorojas274]

@@apoplecticwrenchmonkey definitely worth it saves you money and you get the better tool

[@kietlam3080]

Also try checking out garage sales for cheap stuff

[@LoFi_Punk]

Also don't forget to do some research and buy alternatives made in the same factory. The harbor freight Daytona 3 ton jack is made in the same factory as the snap on fj300 Jack

[@MuchNoob]

It’s nice to see huskey being competitive at the low price point. Especially with the lifetime warranty from Home Depot so you can always just get a new one

[@liamlyda2116]

I always think thats a benefit of husky and craftsman. You break a premium tool, you have to wait for a truck to show up and pray they have a replacement on hand. You break a husky tool and I can literally drive over on a break, grab one off the shelf, and get back to work within 15 minutes.

[@Astral_Lumine]

Same with mastercraft here in Canada, lifetime warranty, you break it “oh shit, oh wait I can just drive on over to the store and get a new one”

[@WandomZhiEt]

Husky is an awesome brand, hf has a brand that’s just as good for slightly less, compare it with the quinn up close and you’ll see what i mean.

[@supertoasting1011]

Nearly all of harbor freights hand tools have a lifetime warranty too. Even the pittsburghs in this video.

[@hilairelaplume1616]

Huskies been amazing for me and so has their return policy

[@richiedagger733]

As someone who uses Klein tools daily at work, I'm surprised they did as well as they did considering how many I've personally snapped in half. Also I'm again reminded how much of a rip off snap on is.

[@jacobjennings6251]

I call bullshit depending on the line of work your in I highly doubt you’ve ever even broke a single screwdriver in half. Your likely to strip the screw or driver before you snap it in any line of work. This test is completely impractical considering the work and force you’ll be putting on the screw drivers. I’ve worked construction for 13 years of my life and I’ve yet to see a screw driver snap in half before striping and totally lose of function.

[@richiedagger733]

@@jacobjennings6251 linesman. And I'm talking nut drivers, they are hollow, I break one a month at least.

[@nelly123713]

@@richiedagger733 mans really trynna call you out for no reason

[@anthonyward8853]

@@nelly123713 Considering the shining beacon of trustworthiness that the KZbin comments section typically is, I can't say as I blame him tbh.

[@sleekhaddock2746]

You say that till the man rolls up and fixes the “mini prybat” even though it’s not the proper use. Your not paying as much for the tool as you are the service that comes with the name. Both our matco and snap on guys provide service with no questions asked. The only thing I haven’t seen them cover is losing a tool. Even a 36 inch pry bar bent in a u from getting left in a excavator track was covered by our snap on guy.

[@AlCasa52]

The old Stanley black and yellow screwdrivers are the best. And anyone who pays $200 for a set of screwdrivers that are no different than a Klein set is not in the right mind. For the most part, spending these kinds of prices for snap on products is more for someone’s big ego

[@nickconley4098]

Or you got to college and get 50-60% off lmao

[@Noadvantage246]

The thing ppl don't understand about Snap on is they're not good just expensive with great marketing. Snap on will sell their tools in bulk to trade schools, auto repair companies, and big contractors. Snap on comes to them and makes it easy for then to purchase so they do, expense is irrelevant cuz they'll just write it off. Then new tradesmen come up surrounded by Snap on tools, they think these are the tools the school used, they were all over my first jobsite, all the pros and older guys are using them they must be the best. When really it just comes from indoctrination.

[@Noadvantage246]

@@nickconley4098 Yup that's exactly their marketing strategy price high and indoctrinate students and new tradesmen

[@unwanted_zombie]

Snap-on has been trash for the last 15 years sadly..

[@Dancing_Alone_wRentals]

Not really, Snap on pays salaries, worker's comp and has highly regulated factory floors. Taxes are paid to the county, state, and feds. Imported tools don't have to do this. Once Snap on is gone, the imports raise their prices. The argument mechanics make is that they don't lose their tools, whereas lots of the cheap tools are bought as disposables. I buy used Snap on and don't hammer on them: best of both worlds.

[@james2042]

I would of liked to see the actual pressure ratings on the screw drivers when they failed on the wedge/hammer test. Because if one bent out at 10lbft and the other snapped at 30lbft, the 30lbft one is far superior.

[@Fosi94]

This.

[@calvinheiden167]

Same for the prying test

[@Samir-qi1uy]

As for every tool party, its medium comparison, its not super in depth. More for entertaining and to learn something on side.

[@l00k4tstuff]

Agreed. A chart with price as a column instead of the judgement including price would be a great out for this video. That way I could make my own case based on how I use the tools.

[@duncanmcgee4887]

@@l00k4tstuff Price absolutely should stay included. You could buy 4 sets of the Icon drivers before you met the price of Snap-On.

[@an0gr0br]

I ran out and bought that set of Doyles after seeing this video and have not been disappointed. They also come with Harbor Freight’s lifetime warranty (which Pittsburgh does not, I believe). Great value for money

[@ihavethedocuments2580]

They are sleepers for sure.

[@OgreMoto]

Pittsburgh does have a lifetime warranty. You can even see it on the package in the beginning of the video in the top left corner.

[@codytodd9773]

I’ve trusted Klein tools for over 25 years. They aren’t very strong as far as automotive and utilitarian use. But by far a very superior electrician tool. I’d trust a Klein to insulate voltage.

[@oskar6661]

Yep, I was under the impression Klein was, almost solely, an electrician tool brand.

[@ballzmckgee3167]

my Klien wire strippers are amazing..

[@timstover414]

glad to see my favorite chisel won the hammering category. It kind of figures they might engineer something for all those lock nuts we have to tighten.

[@KellenBluestein]

yep, i alway buy klein for screwdrivers and strippers. they make some damn fine tools, and I know I can trust them.

[@thatsr240]

Exactly, as an electrician I was thinking the same thing, not tested for it’s Intended use.

[@Yertman6966]

The irony of the Klein winning the hammer test and being an electrician favored tool brand is hilarious 😂 everything is a hammer

[@petemathews6237]

Maybe it's intentional so that people buy more when they break a tool using it how it probably warns against using?

[@douglasboyle6544]

Real electricians never carry hammers, they have lineman's pliers for hammering things... or screwdrivers 🤣

[@noisepuppet]

And the whole world looks like a nail

[@PigeonLaughter01]

It's that beefy insulated handle..😉

[@Overland420]

Sparky here Klein diehard also. If klein stuff breaks bring it in, it's replaced.

[@andrewbrinkworth1420]

I feel like there was one massive oversight... With screwdrivers (especially cheaper ones) if you push the screwdriver into the screw and twist to hard sometimes the glue let's go in the handle and the head/shaft comes out or just spins in the handle so I feel like on-top of the first screw test they should have did it with the handle on to see Wich one held up the best other than that great episode.

[@andygray563]

Also there should be a subjective comfort test. You can really rip up your hand with a poor handle

[@robmitchell3039]

That's exactly what I was going to say.

[@TakeItEasyC6]

@@andygray563 THIS! First test should have been driving screws by hand. You know, what you're supposed to do with a screwdriver. Otherwise, excellent video!

[@lyfoon]

welding them also affects and hardening and tempering and induces larger grain structure

[@Big_AlMC]

This isn't Project Farm dude. lower them expectations there Bucko.

[@burtonboarder0208]

As an electrician I gotta say Klein tools quality as gone severely down hill in the last few years. Have gone through 4-5 cabinet tips due to the tips bending… putting cover plate screws on.

[@kurtisb100]

I have some old Klein tools that have been in my bag for almost 15 years and they are good. Some old jman2000 side cutters and linesmans and they rock. And an old beater blade (size 8 I think?) and it’s great. But I have bought some newer Klein’s and they twist, dull, and just suck in general. I’ve given up on Klein and now I buy Wera or Knipex tools. Knipex water pump (slip joint) pliers are top notch. Wera screwdrivers grip tighter than anything else I’ve found. Expensive though.

[@ROCKSTARR338]

I am an Electrician too. I have also noticed the same thing

[@seantullo5857]

You guy forget life time warranty

[@ameliasolis3981]

​@@seantullo5857it's nice that they replace them but for a tool you use often it must be a hassle to always need to replace the whole set for the ones that keep breaking

[@obeseperson]

We got Klein tools in at Lowe’s recently, and I noticed one of their main screwdriver sets has a typo in the rubber of all the screwdrivers I saw. I know that doesn’t exactly speak of the quality of the tool but it was funny to notice

[@refreshing_ac6371]

Woah, glad Jobe and Jimmy didn’t get hurt from that flying screwdriver! You all might wanna start using the Mythbusters plexiglass shield for that type of stuff haha

[@wraithcadmus]

Tool Party confirms a thing I was told by a mechanic. You buy the cheapest that isn't unsafe, and if it's not up to the job, _then_ you move up in cost as you need it. I'm a software guy, I've got a $200 keyboard because I use it all day every day, but my screwdrivers are a set comparable to the Huskys, because I use it for opening the occasional computer and putting together IKEA furniture.

[@adamsbja]

My family also has this rule: when getting any new tool get the cheap one and figure out what you don't like about it. Then you can look at the version with all the bells and whistles and decide "when I was using a snowblower did I ever actually wish it had a cupholder?"

[@Tallnerdyguy]

I just buy husky. Lifetime warranty and not particularly expensive

[@thejohnmarkproject]

True. When I was a mechanic the starter tools were Snap-On. Once you started making some money you slowly started to upgrade your toolbox to Craftsman. And you went from hand tools to power tools as quickly as possible, because time is money.

[@ryanschwan2507]

DOYLE RULES!

[@PeaceNGrease]

Cutting the shank off the handles was a bad choice. I’ve had screwdrivers that the handle started spinning on the shank & became useless. That’s why you should’ve tested them- handle on.

[@azt3cali94]

More like it could’ve been a separate test.

[@AlexGMason]

Not to mention just whether they feel nice to use. It can be slightly more durable, but if it feels bad in the hand or you can't grip it well, that affects its usefulness.

[@satoapendragon1257]

Agreed. Important how the handle feels and is gripped by the hand.

[@berylbell8452]

@@azt3cali94 could have done a torque test where they try to twist the driver out of the handle, I've also had similar experiences as OP so it is a thought when looking for new tools

[@thomaskiger6960]

Plus cutting with grinder could have changed temper of metal. Also Philips are designed for set torque. Should have tested straight drivers also.

[@saducees9832]

Warranties on these tools would be a huge factor for me. As an electrician I tend to lean towards a certain brand. They have a lifetime warranty and I can go to Home Depot and swap them out with no hassle. Both Klein and husky have a hassle free warranty exchange. I know snap on tools have a warranty that is lifetime too but the exchange or repair period for them is a hassle to do.

[@JohnDoe-gn3rg]

My dad has every snap on tool under the sun (used to build pre runners and the snap on truck would come by his shop) and I noticed the old ones that he has are way better than my new ones

[@9ernation543]

Yup. Capitalism is a shame. They built the brand and it's all they care about now

[@MudcatChris]

Common with all the brands, especially Craftsman

[@michaelcaudill1412]

*you’re

[@foxwithtubesox1075]

"Capitalism is a shame" says the guy using an app on a $1,200 phone/computer, on the internet. Capitalism is the reason there were other brands of screwdrivers available for comparison in the first place: some equal to, or better than, Snap-on's crappy products; but at a fraction of the price.

[@Alan_Malgesto]

think about it Your father's tools were probably made in America while yours are probably Chinese. Many brands with a history have moved their manufacturing to Asia

[@mazdarxseven93]

The one comparison you missed though is how they feel in your hand, because grip is important. Loving these videos, keep up the good work!

[@loganinman7537]

That’s what she said.

[@JEBell79]

I think Wera's are perfect in that regard. But that's only my opinion.

[@kylemilford8758]

That was the very first review my dude

[@Matt-vz5wy]

I really like the rectangular grips on cornwell screwdrivers. Lots of people disagree with me though.

[@MasterArkannor]

That was the first thing they reviewed out of the box.

[@EightPieceBox]

Fun durability tests! I'm glad nobody got hurt. "We're way calmer than we should be." gave me a good laugh.

[@ashantedula5696]

As an Aircraft Mechanic I loved this video. Because when I first started I though snap-on was the best that ever was but now my opinion has changed. If it feels good in my hand easy to read (socket sizes) and doesn't bend but also has a thin wall to get in tight places it's a win in my book. Craftsman and Husky have been really good to me although snap-on is usually specialty tools that have the thinnest walls and strength and odd sizes

[@chromasux2]

I remember when I first started working in a shop, and the Snap-On guy came every week. Got talked into buying some tools. Yes, they feel good for long periods of use, and Yes, it was handy when he came back to trade in a busted tool for a spanking new one. But after the second or third time I replaced terminal screwdrivers, I realized I hadn't been replacing tools of other brands I used at the time. Kleins, Craftsman and Husky. Stopped buying Snap On and never looked back. Now, when working on terminals or live parts, I prefer Wiha's insulated tools and terminal screwdrivers, most of my stuff is still Klein. They still feel good and last as I need them. No complaints there.

[@alexanderthef8]

Wiha screwdrivers are so good! They are the only ones I use in my shop for terminal wiring

[@LegacyAirTech]

Wera and Wiha are the only two good screwdriver brands with consistent quality right now IME. Lots of brands are coasting on their name or previous QC

[@ctrlaltdel02]

PH screwdrivers are suposed to cam-out, thats why all results are so simmilar, thats how they are made. If you wanted to test screvdriver head bending or braking, use flat one, PZ, Torx, or any other that is suposed to stay in.

[@E231986]

I just wish they would have rigged up some kind of jig that applied consistent pressure and could measure how well they work after dozens of attempts (not just one). The lack of tables in the data (with average/median values shown on video) bugs me a lot.

[@lukie4ever]

Ph screws and ph screwdrivers belong together you're talking about using a ph screwdriver on a pz screw, that's just ruining the screwdriver an the screw

[@ctrlaltdel02]

@@lukie4ever No, I am not talking about PH in PZ. PH screwdriver in PH screw is suposed to cam out as its sides is at an specific angle. Only way PH will stay in is if you can aply infinite presure on srewdriver to stay in.

[@lukie4ever]

@@ctrlaltdel02 if i use a good sharp bit i almost never get cam out

[@dirtperson4221slash2]

Impact! I agree with a flat drive test but I think the fasteners would break first. Tools are cool haha

[@Term1nator_]

Honestly, I’m surprised that screwdriver sets can cost up to $200. It’s crazy how many sets there are and how big the range of cost is.

[@imSantiiago]

Fr

[@MrROTD]

The high price is usually worth it in quality and service if you do this stuff for a living, for instance you can get a replacement if it breaks right at your work which is convenient.

[@hoodiefox9650]

I am from Germany and work in a big company. All the tools we have are high end tools and we buy quality tools. We got screwdrivers for 50€ for only 1😂. Yeah i think its waaay not worth it and nobody give a shit about the maintenance of the tools.

[@karlwalter2242]

You can always get a better price buying from the manufacturing company .. You research the brand and by who is made in you'll find very interesting things....

[@lancedooley7558]

If you actually do thos for a living the cheap * is junk. In the Aerospace industry we use FOD compliant tools. Snap-on is the only one that meets industrial standards by ansi, iso 9000, and many many other certifications along with 3000+ tool patents. Not to mention American made.

[@damianbecker5988]

Dudes... I absolutely not only love this series. But you guys do it perfectly!

[@jarrettavery1747]

I’m an electrician and swear by my Klein tools. Love the no questions asked lifetime warranty.

[@Patrick-857]

Wiha and Felo are way better. Germany does steel better than Americans, especially when most "American" tools are made in China. And Chinese steel is just awful.

[@mushlove6933]

@@Patrick-857 not as readily available than klein.

[@narmale]

@@Patrick-857 Knipeex hands down

[@wolffausel1726]

I like Irwin tools a lot

[@TheSpeedyGonzi]

@@Patrick-857 not much of a difference in value 🤷‍♂

[@CubicLice]

As a long-time Donut fan, I gotta be real: This series feels like Project Farm with better editing and a lower IQ. ...still watch it tho

[@Xeonerable]

Yeah I def watch Project Farm for my tool reviews, watch these guys because they are entertaining.

[@AlGoYoSu]

Fair assessment. I can attest the Pittsburgh screwdrivers are definitely a case of you get what you pay for. The Doyle pliers I have are good quality.

[@Chuck2]

This video is a blatant copy of his in some aspects kinda sad

[@SuperHelix7]

I am disappointed that you didn't test the Linus Tech Tips screwdriver

[@oklahormoan]

It may be worth the money but it’ll never be worth the wait.

[@jorgebustillos8469]

Bruh it's for electronics

[@THINKUNIQE]

They tested man screwdrivers

[@Squilliam-Fancyson]

Waste of money. 79$ provides you a really nice bit set with quality bitholder. No need for such multi bit screwdriver, that also suffers from bad weight balance as well as the very thick grip handle.

[@ilham7345]

@@Squilliam-Fancyson thicc handle sometimes the solution since it could provide extra leverage

[@Zardif]

The harbor freight warranty wins a lot for me. It's super easy to exchange and I'm not a mechanic so I don't go thru that many tools.

[@matthewj.hullbasbmf5001]

As an electrician I’ve been loyal to Klein tools since the beginning, but in resent years their quality has been lacking. I’m definitely going to buy the Doyle $25 set. I’ve paid more than that for one Klein screwdriver in the past. I’m also highly disappointed in Snap-On. I feel like a lot of mechanics use Snap-On because of their name just like electricians with Klein. Great video!

[@joshuapritchard575]

its also the Snapon Franchise model where mobile stores come to you, im not a mechanic but my brother is and he admits while snapon tools are not as good as others the fact that the van turns up weekly is a major factor for him its almost like customer service is more important than product quality. also and as a little more fanchise depnedant thay pretty much ask no questions when replacing a broken tool ... also a win

[@bigjim8088]

@@joshuapritchard575 Yes the truck plays a major role along with being replaceable every week if needed. But prices are crazy. Although they finance so you can get them right away and owe them the rest of your career.

[@audiophile6475]

Klein is hard to beat when it comes to their us made tools. My Yellow Handled "snips" are fantastic and are used at least 20 times a day.

[@ryanlee7628]

Klein and channel locks all the way

[@jesusbarajas8067]

Snap on's Ratchets sockets and wrenches are some of the best stuff for mechanics ( they are pricey) but some of their other stuff is hit or miss ..and electronics definitely a rip off

[@no_lft_shft]

I love how Zach nearly got impaled by a screw driver and hardly even blinked 😂

[@dizastro5437]

Things can happen fast, and the worst usually do. And you can edit video to redact the moments after. That t-shirt definitely felt something, and I will stand my t-shirt alongside. .

[@GunsNBudder]

For our next tool test, we'll compare these budget tool testers (Donut) against this quality tool tester (Project Farm).

[@nicholaszavala6991]

My thoughts exactly lol

[@JonathanGonzalez-ol9iv]

I worked in HVAC install and to break through sheet metal we had a “beat it” screw driver, saw the Doyle’s looking better than the rest and used one for 6 months as my “beat it” screw driver, we would hammer the tip of it to go through sheet metal and it’s never failed me great to see the brand I bought before this video was well worth it🙏

[@acex1138]

This is quickly becoming one of my favorite shows from you guys, keep them going

[@anthonyjenkins3335]

This series has taught me never to even consider buying another snap on tool.

[@nathanw6867]

SNAP ON OR NOTHING!!!!!!!!

[@Bloodsweatsawdust]

Their power tools are even worse.

[@matthewrousenberger9352]

@@nathanw6867 Snap on Ratchets are best everything else is overpriced garbage

[@nathanw6867]

@@matthewrousenberger9352 The only reason i buy a select amount of snap on is b/c the truck is here every week and if it breaks I can get something replaced relatively easily. I'm paying for a service so to say.

[@nickcyeah]

@@Bloodsweatsawdust bs.. power tools are great

[@fryreartechnology7611]

Wiha tool, knipex, felo are top three brand in my boxes and I want more of them in it too. Over 25 years I have been using and abusing them in heavy industrial environment they are still great tools. However they are up in the snap off , strap on , snap on price range but hold up and don't need the warranty bs like them. Fun video and enjoy the hold my beer approach.

[@Albertotron]

I'd add Wera to the list as well. I constantly switch between my Wiha and Wera screwdrivers. Both have great tips and the handles are nice as well. The only ones I don't like are Wera's precision screwdrivers. The handles are them are weird and feel cumbersome to use

[@fryreartechnology7611]

@@Albertotron I forget about them... I have a few of the 1/4" hex bit drivers they make

[@kc510]

Wiha precision wiring screw drivers improve my quality of life at work ten fold.

[@bradbuelow6211]

So, food for thought, stress testing by the drill would likely be using the driver outside of its design spec. Varying metals handle various stresses differently. That may explain the damage seen by the snapon. Additionally, user error also plays into it, as the operator of the drill definitely holds the drill differently on the fasteners with every pass. Final note, PLEASE set the clutch on your drill to drill mode so the clutch stops skipping!!

[@jasoncrane]

Said it before, I'll say it again: I'm not a tool guy, and I watch every minute of every episode of this series. Love it.

[@FaZe_gay]

This is purely entertainment. That is why you watch it.

[@78kasper78]

Thats awesome man. I am a tool guy so its cool to hear that these guys are good enough to entertain even on a subject that is not one of your favorites. If you haven't seen Project Farm before I would strongly encourage you to watch some of his videos as well. All of his videos are basically this series and he does a great job.

[@MotherAlgorithm]

No one cares what you say, or if you've said it before

[@eanbarnett6770]

Tools to consider: Jump Pack, Emergency Roadside Kit, “Portable” Hydraulic Lifts (portable in quotes due to them being 250lbs each usually), pneumatic wrench.

[@josephhahn4923]

Love these videos. Random question: shouldn't the lower price be green on the price scale and move towards red as it gets more expensive?

[@ClayRepairs]

yeah i think so

[@yngfljm2277]

no

[@Marius696969]

Every time I see you guys do this the snap on products tend to fall horribly. They're so expensive I figure they'd be top quality, maybe not top tier like Milwaukee but at least up there with the best. It seems like snap on is literally just expensive for the sake of being expensive and not because they have good tools.

[@Cameron-bk5gk]

Snap On is expensive because you're paying for the warranty, convenience of the tool truck, USA made.

[@Marius696969]

@@Cameron-bk5gk still seems more expensive than it's worth. Don't get me wrong I would prefer US made since I live here and want to support my country, but I'm not gonna buy a tool that's gonna break and then I have to go through the hassle of a warrantee claim. Easier to buy a cheaper tool and replace it when it gets bad, or fix it myself. Flat heads are fairly easy to forge and the only thing stopping me from making philips heads is a milling machine that I dont have yet.

[@burtonboarder0208]

@@Cameron-bk5gk “USA made” off the same production lines as hf icon line

[@Cameron-bk5gk]

@@burtonboarder0208 icon tools made in Taiwan buddy

[@williamko4751]

You figured wrong. Who pay for their trucks, and who pay for the driver's salary and commission? Go figure.

[@Valgornify]

While a great episode of tool party, I feel like you guys might need to at least take the mythbuster route and setup some plexiglass walls for tests like this in the future.

[@imgumbydmnt]

Would love to see some other brands, like S&K, Craftsman, Wera, and Wiha.

[@yikesnope]

You had the Hammer Drill setting on while testing the tips. You'll ruin any bit that way. It's for drilling holes in concrete, not driving screws.

[@JuggernautJak]

Right? It was bothering me so much. I’m in school for elec and when I hear some kid switch my drill to hammer without realizing I have to run into those shop and take it away 😂

[@edsgarage001]

YES!! my OCD was in full anxiety mode. Was looking for this comment

[@ducttapeanddreams]

It's a torture test, and the only way you can approximate tool durability in only 50 screws

[@edsgarage001]

@@ducttapeanddreams I had that thought as well, but they could have said that, but didn't. So instead it just looks like he didn't know how to use a hammer drill.

[@jthecaffeinatedcrow6456]

12:50 Gotta love that Zach is already looking around for ways to safely keep the episode rolling

[@UnstableEcho]

I think something to heavily consider is that Snap-On tools have a lifetime warranty and you don't even need a receipt. Any Snap-On dealer will take a broken tool and have it replaced or repaired. I broke a small Snap-On breaker bar like 3 times and they gave me a new free one each time. I would have paid the same amount of money or more if I had to buy a cheaper one three times.

[@low_re8094]

I've actually had similar experiences with some of Harbor Freight's hand tools.

[@miatalife94]

So does icon and harbor freight has plenty of brick and mortar stores, snap on dealers have to be tracked down unless they come to your business regularly and some of them are iffy because they're independent dealers, snap on definitely has the best quality hand tools but that warranty can be finicky

[@andy04rubi]

So the same warranty as the Icon line? Or the Tekton line? The only difference is waiting for the tool truck to show up or going to the store.

[@miatalife94]

@@andy04rubi yeah they all have lifetime warranty it can be a pain getting snap on to warranty the tool if you dont have a truck that comes to where you work often where harbor freight you can just go to the store, i haven't had to deal with tekton warranty yet but id assume its something you have to do by mail but i dont know

[@heidi_homsestol2728]

Yeah and you still only would have paid 3/10 of the price of the snap on if you would have bought a cheap one So just buy mid range, some of them do have life time warranty to, and the probably last just as long as snap on After seeing many snap on tools, the price is just absurd

[@legocfl9282]

Really would have loved to see some Milwaukee tools, they’ve been doing pretty good with quality recently. I have a set of wrenches and they seem almost comparable to old snap on quality

[@ThePolishRabbit]

You guys should do a high/low with motorcycles since gas prices are going up again.

[@charliemaybe]

Since they did high low with a budget sports car, the bike could be a beginner budget sports bike. What mods would they do though that aren’t just cosmetic.

[@Jmacfann]

@@charliemaybe Then they should do a High/Low Sporty build. They can be had for cheap and you can do some fun stuff for not a lot of money or go full out 1275cc 100+hp and dump more money then the bike will ever be worth.

[@charliemaybe]

@@Jmacfann it could be fun if they started with a 2 stroke dirt bike and worked on it to make it a race bike with higher compression and more power

[@connormccarthy2745]

Could even do a really fun trail/road bike build, something like a Honda Grom. That's super attainable for the majority of people

[@Jmacfann]

@@charliemaybe Yeah and since half on facebook market place are stolen they can be had for cheap (joke) they are super easy to work on and parts and not expensive especially on the used market. Older CR or YZ and KX's are easy to find. Some people that had them though did not do rebuilds as they should though..even though its an hour project to replace the top end.

[@datrumakboy1020]

Im shocked by the Klein drivers, my dads set from about 20 years ago has no bent tips or damage, they are extremely solid. I just got a set about a year ago, havent put them through their paces yet but hopefully they hold up.

[@RyGuyStimp]

Man, I can only hope you guys do an episode on floor jacks! Love the content, keep her goin!

[@cameronsmith5968]

You guys forgot the cheapest screwdriver of them all, the butter knife!

[@ritermaster]

And the house keys

[@SpaceMissile]

the only downside is getting yelled at by mom / the wife _(different people, mind you)_ when they break. ...it's like the opposite of a warranty.

[@SharmV]

I once had to put a networking switch into a rack and I used the classic scissors ✂️ to do the job 😎

[@zachreese5040]

As a car tech that works at a dealership, id love to see more brands compared to snap on. Snap tools are extremely expansive so I never buy them, but iv alway been interested to see if they are worth the money. But after seeing a couple of these videos, i can already tell they are not worth the money

[@toyorover1313]

This really depends on the specific tool. I've got a huge mix of everything from snap on to cheap Chinese stuff to vintage British tools. Their sockets, wrenches, and ratchets are well worth it in my opinion. After that, it depends how much you value single point purchasing and their warranty, as well as the service your driver gives you.

[@berylbell8452]

from experience I can tell you that their wrenches and hand ratchets are good (over priced still imo) and their battery operated power tools are a joke(some only have a one year warranty), constantly getting beat out by much much cheaper brands. their pneumatic stuff seems decent from what I've used. the only things I've bought personally are a flashlight and a couple pocket knifes, any specialty tool they carry seems to be way to over priced, but maybe I'm just poor.

[@paullowell3342]

My rule for snap on and other expensive brands is if you hold it in your hand but the good one, if it’s a socket buy whatever. If it’s electric don’t buy snap on.

[@toeleg]

@@berylbell8452 for anything battery operated can't go wrong with Milwaukee I've had good luck with my rigid as well

[@zachmoritz9856]

Sockets ratchets and wrenches are 100% worth the money

[@rdhanded2]

I would love to see more of this content. Was always fun!

[@lo0nyt0onz]

I've come to learn there is a huge difference in quality from my older snap on tools my dad has and the few I have. Personally I have a ton of craftsman. Life time warranty and cheap and pretty good quality for basics

[@Kaiyuni]

That's something I noticed as well. Old snap ons were built way tougher. But it seems like the modern ones are relying on the brand name to sell rather than being actual quality pieces.

[@lo0nyt0onz]

@@Kaiyuni I agree. My dad has alot of snap on from the 80s when he worked in aerospace industry. Old tools would be given to the employees when they would receive new tools.

[@Matt-vz5wy]

I have way too much money in snap on tools, and honestly the only tools I’ve bought from them that I love are my ratchets.

[@davis28905]

Same goes for old craftsman stuff. My grandpa's old craftsman wrenches are holding up way better than my newer set 😭🤣

[@wd8062]

I own icon and snap-on screw drivers(auto tech of 20 years) and under normal daily use i prefer the snap on screw drivers for sure. That being said my favorite screwdrivers are vessel

[@darushkii]

This is my favorite series on Donut.

[@PaulJohnson-ow1mq]

Looking at those data points...the Husky should have been the recommendation. It did not necessarily dominate but for the price it also never hit the bottom in performance and was always beating its competition and higher priced tools.

[@shaneh7519]

Harbor freight has a lifetime warranty on the tools and they will replace them if they break. Husky doesn’t not have that to my knowledge

[@jan_mikes_hidden_stories777]

This must be one of the most dangerous experiments that you've done, guys.

[@Squanto22]

Watching Jobe nonchalantly almost get impaled by a broken screw driver was a little eye opening haha

[@skunkworker]

If mythbusters has taught me anything, you should probably be using ballistic glass around those breaking tests.

[@jan_mikes_hidden_stories777]

@@skunkworker Damn, I miss Grant Imahara.

[@Nbomber]

@@jan_mikes_hidden_stories777 kari byron

[@toeleg]

@@Nbomber weird I just saw a vid of her confirming an anime (Dr. Stone) has legitimate science lmao yes, yes it does. Warning labels exist for a reason fs 😂

[@mackflynn]

Love this segment and definitely digging the Jerry, Jobe combo! Keep ‘em coming! :) That said… I realize you guys are crazy busy pumping out content and probably filming and editing multiple shows at once, and as a result some things get rushed. Often times that’s the sound. This episode was particularly difficult to listen to. The levels were all over the place. It’s much less noticeable on my phone, but I like watching you guys on my tv in the living room. There are moments it’s so quiet I can barely hear them speaking, and a second later my speakers are exploding. Sometimes it’s tinny and thin sounding, other times it’s boomy. I find it super frustrating and distracting. Sorry to criticize. I adore this channel…but I just had to say something. It has been like this similarly in other videos, but this was the worst one. A compressor and limiter would go a long way. A show like this doesn’t really need dynamics. Just flatten out the audio levels, and put some eq on some troublesome spots and you’ll be golden.

[@FigureItAudi]

I'd love to see a comparison of all the different security devices you can attach to/around a catalytic converter to prevent theft. I have a feeling it would go a similar direction as the wheel lock episode.

[@Big_AlMC]

my favorite catalytic converter security is a good ol fashioned Midget with a Glock hidden behind the oil pan. Crack head in for nasty 9 milly hollow point.

[@dsimon33871]

have not finished the video yet, already LOVE the basis for comparison... that was brilliant!

[@TrentCantrell]

Great test. I would have figured Snap On would have at least middling performance. Next time you test hand tools, I would love to see the handles tested as well. I often see the grip separate from the metal in cheap tools.

[@Mike504]

I would love to see the same tests with Dewalt and Milwaukee.

[@jiimmyboy63]

Meh... some of it can be ok. But I avoid power tool brand hand tools.

[@paulisfrench3316]

i work at a mechanic shop and love my husky screwdrivers, i think one of their biggest advantages is their square ish shaped handle. It helps put more torque on the screw, sad they didnbt actually test by hand as that is literally the screwdrivers job, handle design greatly impacts fatigue whle screwing.

[@kimnach]

"Love handles"?

[@paulisfrench3316]

@@kimnach 😂

[@TexRobNC]

Handles matter. Next time, create some sort of attachment for a corded drill to grip the screwdrivers.

[@Michaelxedge1017]

As a Klein screwdriver owner, I'm in shambles. The good news is, I hammer my screwdrivers often, so I guess in the end, I did buy the right one lmao

[@TheRasmusdc]

everytime they do "stress test" i go into Safety panic after many years as an engineer, DAMN i can see so many risks, we also saw a lucky situation with the torque wrenches where it nearly hit the camera man in the head. Please, just use some kind of enclosure, just some lexan or maybe some heavy mesh..

[@polinos13]

I love it how this video is about testing the durability etc. of screwdrivers but its also a health and safety benchmark😂

[@hondawhiteguy4223]

Kleins good shit for us electricians, I like that lifetime warranty that comes with them too

[@Link30567]

would have been nice to leave the screwdrivers intact for the screwing portion, to see how the handles hold up

[@Nbomber]

I feel like your hand would get trashed before the handle. But who knows

[@Link30567]

@@Nbomber They could have made some contraption to turn it

[@Nbomber]

@@Link30567 true, i was thinking more along the lines of it not being important because the handle would be stronger than your hand anyway. But yeah, i suppose itd still be interesting to see

[@joshlenz2761]

This should totally be it's own series, holy cow this is Myth Busters type stuff and I am so here for it. Do all of the tools.

[@Rmat7]

I've always loved husky products, they're in that sweet spot of cheap budget tools that still get the job done. Sure others are better but I'd say husky is almost always worth its price

[@christopherevensen4942]

I concur, they're solid beater tools, plus they've got an in-store replacement policy with Home Depot. I've replaced my 1" chisel twice due to damage, getting a $10 rebate once because I was advising another customer while I waited, leaving me with three chisels for a buck fifty.

[@WardenWolf]

This rather amusingly shows that some of Harbor Freight's stuff really is every bit as good as name-brand, something I've said for years. Work told us to use this $200 torque wrench for a job that didn't really need a torque wrench, and it was always camming out of the slot despite supposedly being the right bit. In reality, the tool we used was $1.75 Harbor Freight #2 Phillips which didn't cam out.

[@nolindlitchfield3465]

When I started shopping for tools I bought the icon set and the biggest flathead was snapped in half, literally where the shaft goes into the handle.

[@DaOneAndOnlyKDubb]

I love the fact y’all test the full spectrum of tools! And an ex Harbor Freight Tools employee, I always wondered how they stacked up to each other! Keep up the awesome content!!!

[@aggro_beat]

how was that a "hammer" test if you're just hydraulic pressing it from the top? There's no impact involved in this test, while hammering does

[@rickilydickily]

yeah, i agree it wasn’t the most accurate way of depicting “hammering”. A useful test for sure but a completely different (and far more destructive) type of force. Would have liked to see some actual hammering.

[@BluCappy419]

@@rickilydickily Agreed, load the driver into a ground-rod bit on a hammer drill and use it like a chesel.

[@oddson2975]

Harbor Freight needs to sponsor you guys after this. I'm about to get some Doyle tools because of this.

[@agostinodibella9939]

Wow, you guys put your life on the line doing some of those extreme tests on the screwdrivers! I really liked you tested the bits by cutting and using them in the cordless drill to drive in all those nails. Great job 👍

[@PoliticalDissident]

Yeah, they did risk a lot. It was idiotic to stand where they did, but then again, these tests were fairly idiotic too, so par for the course, I suppose.

[@AnthonyWilliams-pj5nl]

I'm gonna stick with the snap on for one major reason, they feel better in the hand. The grip allows you to apply more torque by hand wihtout the screwdriver twisting in your hand. That's something you guys should have tested, how much torque can be applied by hand.

[@mattaomartinez.9817]

Ill stick with snap on because I already spent too much money on them.

[@AnthonyWilliams-pj5nl]

@@mattaomartinez.9817 well that too haha

[@lukemorrow1907]

The company I work for uses snap-on tools more or less exclusively. I personally consider the snap-on screw drivers some of the worst I've worked with. Thankfully they're a warranty item and we have a chest drawer full of spare flat blade/philips shanks to replace shattered ones.🙏

[@Roboticpycotic]

Who the hell do you work for?! Snap on tools exclusively 🤣🤣

[@robertrada4783]

@@Roboticpycotic The prices you and I see have a VERY large margin to cover both warranties and the driver/franchisees costs. Snap-On can be bought at reasonable prices in the industrial and government sectors. It’s pretty much invite only. No different than the MRO companies.

[@robertrada4783]

I somewhat like the older style hard handles. That said, out of all of the manufacturers from Slovenia, Germany, France, Czech Republic, Japan and the USA… Snap-On is dead last in my book on screwdrivers. I really dislike the newest design. Whereas some brands will mold the handle directly to the shank… you know how Snap-On on-site warranties do. To accommodate this, the damn handles are more hallowed than Vladimir Putin’s soul.

[@lukemorrow1907]

@@Roboticpycotic I'm a federal employee, as Robert said Snap-on can be had for a lot less when bought through government contracts. The current style snap-on screwdrivers have, imo, an uncomfortably shaped plastic handle with a hard rubber insert that the shanks press into. It does make it easy to replace shanks but it's a shame how often they wear out.

[@Roboticpycotic]

@@lukemorrow1907 US has 30 trillion in debt but buys their workers snap on 🤣🤣🤣

[@robertlawrence9000]

Best bit replaceable screwdriver is the patented Autoloader. Not super durable but lasts long for the money. Very good to have if you are tired of constantly changing bits.

[@hitthemafia]

Snap-on really does feel like a Veblen brand at this point. I haven’t bought from our tool guy in a long time. I feel like I get more bang for my buck on the Cornwell truck. Also, you should have found a set of JIS screw drivers to compare. I love my JIS set. Way fewer stripped screws.

[@Aether_Vibes]

I love my Cornwell man

[@momolovesyou9969]

Alot of people don't know about JIS, I didn't until I bought an old Honda motorcycle

[@chadnoel9640]

I’ve been in the business for years. As far as hand tools I love my selection of Icon tools. All the wrenches and ratchets they offer near me have held up beautifully compared to my snap ons and macs. Even at the price difference. Sold all my name brand hand tools and bought a lot of icons plus back ups and still had money left over!!

[@aaronthomas6155]

I bought an Icon 1/4 ratchet after my Mac 1/4 rather locked up. That poor Icon ratchet has been abused more in the 9 months I've owned it than that Mac ratchet has in the 4 years I've owned it and the Icon is still going whereas the Mac ratchet is waiting for a repair kit. I'm probably going to end up replacing the rest of my ratchets with Icon models....

[@killingtime669]

So buy high sell low take a loss and then buy harbor freight tools

[@Big_AlMC]

​@@killingtime669 Exactly my nigggga. economics.

[@jacobpenton3132]

I love these videos, I only wish up would've used them in one test how they're supposed to be used, simply bc ergonomics are really important to some people lol

[@CopperMurdoch]

This. I feel like they tested everything except how you would actually use the tools.

[@TEudmunki86]

kzbin.info Here you go!

[@CopperMurdoch]

@@TEudmunki86 Hah, I'm actually a Patreon for Project Farm!

[@4cylchronicles]

Always perfect content

[@codywhitehead2810]

I started using the Icon line of tools when they came out and love them, also Snap On wont warranty the screw drivers if you used it as a chisel or prybar, Harbor Freight doesn't ask questions. You guys should test ratchet straps, does the HF 2Klb straps really hold up to that weight?

[@josephsullivan2319]

Well they won’t if they see you use it as one but they never do so they still have to warranty I’ve broken probably 10+ snap ones in a year or less an they always put a new bit in an I’m good to go

[@mattmendenhall1764]

As someone that sells Snap On tools and a former Tech I don't care how u broke it u paid for the warranty. I'm gonna fix or replace it. Just sayin 🤷

[@benearl2739]

My snap on guys don’t ask any questions when warranting a tool

[@tatersalad2067]

@@mattmendenhall1764 True. My dealer will warranty pretty much everything except battery tools (out of manufacturing warranty). Neck lights, drill bits, extractors, dull side cutters, pick sets, sockets etc. I seen on the truck last week they have a flat blade pry bar screwdriver about the same length as a normal driver. I asked "what is this for"? He said it was for people who kept breaking their screwdrivers as pry bars. lol. Neck lights, CT761 and 3/8 drive battery ratchet are the three best tools I own. Pay once. Cry once.

[@kevinbesser7566]

I often bring several broken tools on the Snapon truck every week. They take care of us if you need it you need it, and sometimes that’s worth the extra money. But once cry once

[@1creep2e3r]

I'm a mechanical testing tech in Long Beach and watching you guys do these without fixturing and data recording is a little strange. On a standard ultimate loading test (to failure) we'd have a chart for force over displacement as well as a data sheet to evaluate results. Would appreciate if you invested in an Interface 2000lb load cell (what I use at work for some testing) for these tests and hooked it up to a laptop for actual data recording

[@fastsigns4825]

It's purely for entertainment. We all go to Project Farm for the real data

[@mullerman1104]

I have never needed a new screwdriver in my life. All the ones I use are from a approx. 50-60 years old Toolbox from my granddad. It’s all Chrom-Vanadium, never rusts, can be hammered into everything thanks to its metal top and cannot be bent even by prying a gap between an engine and a transmission.

[@thesniperofcs]

One important thing you didn’t mention, which company gives you warranty on their product which is really important to know. Honestly I would still want to spend my money on tools from snap-on and ko-ken sets rather than other cheap brands

[@MrJuanv08]

I feel like second test wasn’t exactly fair. Y’all used wood screws with some JIS screwdriver. Will it work? Yes. Will you round off some heads and mess up the tips? Yes. I have a snap on set and a harbor freight set from 10 years ago. I find the HF set more useful and better fitting for JIS screws too. Broken more snap on screwdrivers as well. Yes they have a lifetime warranty. But I would have to wait for the dealer to hopefully show up to get it repaired (he maybe showed up twice a month at best). Harbor freight was a few blocks away when I used to work at a dealership and there’s one not far from my house too. I break or lose one I can get a replacement that same day.

[@ronblack7870]

how do you warranty a lost screwdriver?

[@tdabney0242]

Thank you I’ve run snap on and love them it’s all about personal preference

[@MrJuanv08]

@@ronblack7870 You don't. I was trying to say its easier, cheaper, and faster to get a replacement screwdriver from HF than it is to wait for the tool truck (that is they stop by that week).

[@TexasTimelapse]

Did you order those Snap On screwdrivers off Wish or something?

[@rodolfomarin7140]

Right? 200$ for that set is cheap😅

[@joefries365]

For people wondering about the snap on screw drivers, i have had one of those exact screw drivers for over 10 years and its been great. I worked in a tire shop, in a heavy duty shop and at a dealership where mine was left out in the snow for a season, ran over by a big truck, used as a chisel ( still do lol ) and used to get very tight screws out ( like screws holding on 15 year old brake drums ) because the end just DOESNT bend or break. Ive had the torch get the end of it hot and still works fine. Also it was like 56$ up here in canada so thats even cheaper in the US. I have 4 of them and spend around 224$ on the 4 of them and that was in 2012. They are a little beat up cause of the way i am with stuff but they are all still perfectly straight, tight, the tips have next to no damage, meanwhile my buddy who is on his 3rd set of 15 screwdrivers for 67$ from Canadian Tire has a few bent and broken ones, canadian tire wont Honor the warranty OR replace them.. not sure why and the tips on them wear down in months no longer fitting the same screws they did before. And i asked the snap on guy about warranty, he said i can literally put it in a vice and break it and he would give me a new one no questions asked. I bought a 80$ pair of flush cuts off him 7 years ago, the one blade broke from tryna cut something metal ( clearly says for only plastic on them ) and he threw them in a drawer and handed me a new pair and said there ya go. Ive been using snap on stuff a long time and the warranty alone is worth it.

[@DawsonSiebert]

First!

[@davidlavigne7373]

Jesus loves you so much. I love Jesus. I love you. I choose Jesus.

[@RoyRage666]

There is no god

[@CarlSaxen]

no one is going to pay a hundred and forty bux for a wallet.

[@TIMExBANDIT]

This is a FANTASTIC series

[@kalebnolan8343]

I feel like cutting them defeats the point a little of comparing them for what they are