Doom 3: BFG Edition Review

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Doom 3: BFG Edition is a re-release of Doom 3 released on October 16, 2012 in North America, October 18, 2012, in Australia and October 19, 2012 in Europe for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3, and Xbox 360. The BFG Edition features enhanced graphics, better audio (with more horror effects), a checkpoint save system, and support for 3D displays and HMDs.
The game also includes the previous expansion, Resurrection of Evil, and a new single-player expansion pack called The Lost Mission. Additionally, it includes copies of the original Doom (the Ultimate Doom edition with the add-on fourth episode, "Thy Flesh Consumed"), and Doom II with the expansion No Rest for the Living, previously available for the Xbox 360.
The BFG Edition also features the ability to use the flashlight while holding a weapon, in the form of the armor-mounted flashlight.

[@Gggmanlives]

Just a reminder, this is more aimed at PC gamers, not people playing Doom 3 on consoles. Enjoy the video! Also you can download the Doom 3 source port here: dhewm3.org/

[@Grandmastergav86]

Aimed at Lords not peasants.

[@ADR69]

The best part of doom 3 is the plasma rifle reload sound.

[@shadyone6620]

Seriously? You think that built-in flashlight is a downside? That only change is better than anything else. What "sense of helplessness" in an action game? Not speaking of fact that normal marine could at least take flashlight in one hand and pistol in another or just goddamn duct tape a flashilight to a gun. I don't think Half-Life would become any better with flashlight as a separate weapon.

[@HragFarraGaming]

They even changed how fast the machine gun and chain gun fired. Very drastic changes compared to the PC version. I did like the BFG Edition, as you said, packaged nicely, but not well done. Another neat fact is the voice actor for The Lost Mission doctor is none other than the Colonel from Metal Gear Solid series. That made it better lol. I completely forgot what they've changed from the intro scene. Why even change that? It's so frustrating that doesn't make any sense.

[@joe95883]

Thanks for the warning... But I like the game on my PS3

[@MandaloreGaming]

"The weapon muzzle flashes don't light up the environment anymore" THAT WAS WHAT THREW ME OFF I KNEW SOMETHING ABOUT THE LIGHTING WAS WORSE

[@oscarhenville]

Lord MandaloreGaming! It is good to see you my lord

[@bloozism]

Hey hey people

[@KillThad]

@@bloozism sseth here

[@DrilRemover]

Cringe

[@gamephreak5]

Apparently, the way the lighting worked in the original release was partly due to Sound Blaster technology that Carmack had to license out and borrow to make his "Carmack's Reverse" lighting technique work, in exchange for giving Doom 3 EAX capability (Sound Blaster was really trying to push EAX even as late as 2007 when Bioshock 1 came out). When the BFG Edition was set to come out 10 years later, they had to take the Sound Blaster stuff out of the coding because the license ran out, thus "Carmack's Reverse" either becoming impossible to replicate or the devs were too lazy to re-implement it in other ways. That's why the lighting in BFG Edition is worse than the original release.

[@salokin3087]

Talks about Doom Mods Features H-Doom "yep" *sip*

[@doomi_nukem]

Download link?

[@albertdeluxe8966]

Reading this comment as I'm sippin' on my Monster Boomer Juice. Sipception.

[@gamesergeanthd]

"And that's why so many people are still playing it to this day" lol

[@caliggyjack7480]

Did you know it's as bad as the Columbine mod?

[@JohnsNightmares]

👌 Hes just very cultured

[@will4127]

The biggest injustice I see with the BFG Edition is that by replaying the game, I was reminded that we will probably never get a Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 4.

[@cameron-yo6zp]

at least Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3 is in DOOM 2016...

[@LiquidRuss]

@@cameron-yo6zp thats why it got game of the year

[@makrostheblack4791]

Doom VFR has a Super Turbo Turkey Puncher arcade cabinet you can play... but it's also a 3 cabinet. No 4, sorry! :(

[@SRGIProductions]

@@makrostheblack4791 They didn't even get an Alpha series.

[@llynellyn]

Some would argue that the biggest injustice was Bethesda removing D3 from Steam when they released BFG, this forcing people to pay nearly triple the price for an inferior game. But yeah this does rank up there :P

[@Thorogrimm]

The separate flashlight in the original was apparently a decision made for peformance, since having a flashlight out all the time meant rendering shadows more. Plus Carmack said himself "the game would have been more enjoyable if people could actually see it"

[@user-le1zw5nk9w]

That's what I am saying

[@DavidFregoli]

I agree but still, the gameplay is designed for it so the update messes it up

[@silverhawkroman]

And i mean c'mon its DOOM, not Fatal Frame. Even with the eeriness of Doom64 it still felt like a doom game. Having jump scares and flashlights is the least doom thing you can ever do

[@cmillspa1]

@@silverhawkroman I don’t think it works that way. Doom is what the creators decide, not the fans. If the fans made the main games, they’d suck even harder. Harsh truth. Some modders can live up to the level of quality that main games offer, but they’re unicorns.

[@reviathan3524]

15:30 After you. No, after you. No, I insist. After you. After you.

[@vazzeg]

They probably were Canadian.

[@Scruffest]

@@vazzeg a New Canada since it's on Mars

[@dannyboythelastman1944]

The way the zombie on the left keeps the flashlight to it's face and looking at you then at the other zombie then back at you

[@dylantrott18]

*throws a grenade* FUCK YOU!! 😂😂😂😂

[@murderousmayhem6362]

Lol

[@4LoveOfMoney]

"Zombiemen have as much intelligence as people who do reaction videos to movie trailers" Thank you

[@Fuis6]

Shwacked

[@michaellozada1077]

Yup. That is the winner comment of the video

[@Pyke64]

What an insult to Zombiemen

[@ars731]

Lol, I hope Gmanlives hands out some aloe after that burn.

[@lordosis5650]

@@Fuis6 Rekt

[@Larry]

Always remember the HUGE amount of complaints the original DOOM 3 had over the fact you couldn't use a gun and a flashlight at the same time. Then someone made a "ducktape mod" which allowed you to.

[@SRGIProductions]

Then...fast-forward to 2012, DOOM 3: BFG Edition drops... Gordon Ramsay: LOOK! LOOOOK!!! WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?!?!

[@TDHurley]

Same. people did hate it, rightly so.

[@SRGIProductions]

@@TDHurley Glad I was able to play the PC original. My new laptop can run it on High settings at least(Using Dhewm3 of course.) And on the subject of "ducktape" mods, there is an updated one I'm playing with currently, and it's ok, I guess.

[@kentown8115]

glad i wasnt wrong when i noticed so much ammo available

[@at-cj2iy]

Gay ass cartoon you are

[@jeremymartin4755]

Gman: Why does Sgt. Kelly look like he’s in pain Military veteran: The military happened

[@RedBonkleMan8534]

As someone who’s in I can attest. Feelsbadman

[@steelbear2063]

I mean he's on Mars fighting literal demons, so it could be worse, he could be stationed at Fort Polk.

[@MinecraftLD10]

@@steelbear2063 What, Fort Polk hasn't accidentally summoned demons yet?

[@Scott-vr3kf]

Fort Polk, aka the Hellmouth.

[@jeremymartin4755]

@@Scott-vr3kf I would’ve went with Ft. Hood or Leonard Wood

[@piergiorgiocaroli9201]

Gman: If you get that reference, we should be friends. Me: Gets the reference but plays everything in easy mode. Gman: Never mind.

[@mikeangelo2886]

shit, i remeber that playing quake 3 on "can i play" would not give any progres, no next tier unlock.

[@Gggmanlives]

We can still be friends.

[@piergiorgiocaroli9201]

@@Gggmanlives That's awesome!

[@ADR69]

Thank you. I like stuff on easy. Like gmans mom Schwaaack

[@tetrafuse3096]

@@ADR69 Please do not log in to your KZbin account ever again.

[@Lord_Deimos]

I think we can all agree that Doom 3, Alan Wake, Dead Space and F.E.A.R. proved how important atmospheric lighting can be in horror themed games.

[@AndalusianPrince]

Comparing Doom 3 to dead space is disrespectful to D3

[@greenbow7888]

Add Unreal to that list.

[@AC-hj9tv]

Earthworm jim

[@Minnevan]

@@AC-hj9tvMinesweeper

[@Matheus-ki9zo]

Silent Hill, my brothers. Silent Hill

[@ashdoglsu]

A lot of younger player cant appreciate the huge leap in technology DOOM 3 was back in 2004 along with Half Life 2.

[@MikeHeldTheWorld]

I think Half Life 2 holds up much better. Just replayed it last month and than afterwards went right to Doom 3. Doom 3 felt much more dated in all aspects.

[@explosiveaddict6939]

I always thought DOOM 3 was just dumb until I realized the advancements it made.

[@gub4941]

I’m 15, so I was just a baby when these leaps were being made. As of now, I’ve played video games from all walks of life, and I must say, the late 90s early 2000s were 100% the highpoint of gaming.

[@stefanm.734]

To be fair, a lot of people even at the time didn't appreciate the huge leap in technology these games had either. It was only after the fact many years later we realized just how ahead of their time these games were.

[@Cayden1988]

Oh I remember when I bought my retail copy of Doom 3 back in 2004. Everyone was praising just how realistic the visuals looked and how terrified people were playing the game. My PC could barely run the game back then lol.

[@vahlok1426]

*Hears the "Can I play, Daddy" reference* But Gman, I am death incarnate!

[@Matt_History]

*Mein Lieben*

[@erdnussbier4260]

@@Matt_History *Leben

[@Retro80sMan1]

Don't hurt me!

[@potatomasher18]

IIRC People complained about Doom 3 not being enough like the classic games, so they made BFG edition to be more fast paced with more ammo and the flashlight being automatic. Which goes to show you can't please everybody

[@1231231232972]

it's like making a car from a boat

[@matrix255]

People who complain about DOOM 3 not being like it's predecessors are morons who don't understand the point of the game. DOOM 3 is an action *horror* game, being slower was meant to instill tension into the player. If you remove the flashlight, up the game speed and add even more ammo you're changing the core DOOM 3 gameplay for the worse.

[@VaderTheWhite]

Might've been nice if you could've toggled that on/off, actually.

[@seb24789]

Didn't everyone use a flashlight mod anyway?

[@winlover37]

@@seb24789 I didn't. I played the Original Xbox port.

[@Shady272]

Ion Fury: not enough ammo Doom 3: BFG Edition: too much ammo sometimes you just can't have it your way :P

[@ctrouble2309]

I didnt have the Ion Fury issue at all. I honestly have no idea how he ended up with ammo problems

[@TimeBomb014X]

@@ctrouble2309 Same, I been switching a lot between the dispenser & penatrator. So far I haven't struggled with ammo & I'm on Ultra Viscera setting but to be fair I'm only now at Zone 2 playing what was the preview build campaign

[@mcFreaki]

@@ctrouble2309 idiot was spunking his ammo everywhere- just because you CAN go full auto doesn't mean you shouldn't fire in short, controlled bursts. also he probably wasn't going for headshots. you save about half your ammo aiming for the head.

[@ctrouble2309]

@PirateCat91 that only really happens if you akimbo which I found absolutely no benefit in doing. Using 1 for the whole game keeps you with a decent supply

[@ctrouble2309]

@@mcFreaki yeah I figured he didn't know about headshots or he spent no time finding secrets

[@MidnightRaziel]

"Makes me sick. Makes me SICK!" i fuckin' love that part, always makes me smile.

[@ZSTE]

Speaking of the flashlight, I loved the gimped co-op campaign on the original Xbox. My friend would hold the flashlight and I’d have a minigun. It really required teamwork and was a blast.

[@Caluma122]

Co-Op on OG Xbox was awesome fun! Me and a friend played that System Linked back in the day.

[@chiarosuburekeni9325]

This was actually incredible. So many hours on that co op campaign

[@SayakMajumder]

Next : Enemy Territory Quake Wars Followed by : Delta Force Black Hawk Down

[@gast128]

Add NecroVision to that list. Gmanlives plays all kinds of obscure mods but skipped this game.

[@Phantron]

necrovision isnt a mod tho?

[@Phantron]

I dont see your comment anymore

[@serialgamer160]

@@Phantron Necrovision is a game, not a mod ;)

[@Phantron]

no shit, gast128 said that, not me. his comment is gone

[@TheFingledorf]

not survival-horror but *"action-horror"* - you have the horror setting and themes but enough firepower to feel relatively secure on lower difficulty settings. is that fair to say?

[@tearoll9212]

Yes action horror. Exactly. Survival horror is THE most misused game genre term. People will call any game with just a little bit of horror “survival horror.” Dead Space is another example. So many people call it survival horror. It’s not. It’s action horror. Because you are intended to KILL all the enemies. In a proper survival horror game, like the old RE games, you have to manage resources, and often evade enemies.

[@tearoll9212]

Austin Downing Ok...a sense of dread makes it HORROR, but not survival horror. I really do not understand why it’s so difficult for people to get this.

[@tearoll9212]

Austin Downing I just outlined what makes survival horror and you haven’t given any good rebuttal. You said because it has a sense of “dread,” and I responded to that and explained why that’s not a sufficient reason to call Dead Space survival horror. Now you’re resorting to feeling butt hurt because you have nothing else to say.

[@tearoll9212]

Austin Downing lol you mean like here? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival_horror Seems to be more supportive of what I’ve been saying...managing resources, evading enemies, etc. They even reference “action horror” as a distinct genre like I did. All you’ve said is “sense of dread,” which is such a vague, lazy description that could apply to tons of games. You don’t understand the genre and come off very ignorant. That’s the KZbin comment section for ya, though. I’ll use 2 movies as an analogy to help you understand this. The original Alien (1979) is survival horror, while its sequel Aliens(1986) is action horror. It’s really not that difficult a concept lol. Also, I find it funny that in your original comment you said Dead Space is survival horror “in your book.” Um...YOUR book? Sounds like you’re the one trying to come up your own, opinionated definition of survival horror. To quote you, “Your dumb opinion is irrelevant.” I don’t abide by what’s in your stupid “book” lol.

[@tearoll9212]

Austin Downing Thanks for proving my point that you’re dumb. Can’t handle reading a few small paragraphs. Your brain has shut down lol.

[@atriumxcomplex]

11:10 - Given the later part of the game, Sergeant Kelly's existence absolutely is pain.

[@MorgueOfficialMusic]

Having an inability to use a flashlight and a weapon at the same time may be how Id originally intended the game to be played, but that doesn't make it a good decision.

[@KillThad]

When Ressurection of Evil was brought to the Xbox, they mounted the flashlight to the pistol. Personally, that felt like a decent compromise: You're able to defend yourself against some lighter enemies while being to see, but you'll most likely need some better firepower later on.

[@punctuationman334]

KillThad that was a high iq move by the devs. It does take away from the horror a little bit because you’re less defenseless but in general the pistol is shit, so like you said, good compromise.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Just the idea of "duct taping the flashlight to the shotgun" - nice, now you always have light on the shotgun, but nowhere else :D Yeah flashlight on pistol makes sense. Or just hold it in the other hand. That seems like a really good compromise. It's what any sensible person would do.

[@jothain]

It was good choice from devs. I think it would've been interesting gameplay mechanic if you could've had that flashlight and basically "duct tape mod" that would've had allowed mounting to selected weapon, but would've taken some time to do that you couldn't have do it in heat of battle and enough time consuming that it would've annoying to spam that change too frequently. That balanced with good level and ammo drop design would've created pretty good tactical point for gamer imo.

[@IndoorSitup]

That's actually a pretty smart compromise. If Doom 3 were ever to be re-released again that should definetly be available for the main campaign.

[@AlphaEnt2]

One thing the bfg edition also messed up is the arcade machines. You can only play super turbo turkey puncher 3 on all arcades, while on the original roe you can play 3 other variations, like hellanoid. And the forced random pitches on doom 1 and 2.

[@SRGIProductions]

Dwars talked about that in his source ports video.

[@jothain]

Interesting. I can't recall that on original Xbox port I've played pretty damn many times. I guess that's content that has been cut from that version. Then again I also have shit memory for things like this 😁

[@triznathaniel122]

I remember the first time I seen that mirror scene. I was wearing over the ear headphones and almost shit myself.

[@sergeantsilly-pantsjackson1942]

it is so simple yet whenever I see a mirror in a game I smile.

[@jothain]

That child part was also quite effective 😊

[@mizfyre8228]

I think the red medkit crosses were removed due to a lawsuit with The American Red Cross humanitarian organization... lots of games were hit with that...

[@jothain]

I believe you're right. I found it hilarious that it's like red cross wouldn't like to have image that it helps. The reasoning that they don't want to be associated in violence is just bizarre to me. What kind of dumbass would somehow relate having red cross on game item to them being somehow involved with violence?

[@QuartzRoolz]

"mods really extend the shelf life of a game" *shows H-doom* classy

[@hapokas112]

Nice.

[@paperandpavement]

Nice

[@DavoXDesign]

Funny. Hdoom worked on ion fury as well.

[@greenbean2222]

Nice

[@Gggmanlives]

Nice.

[@Arassar]

8:30 they also added a horrible beeping sound on every keystroke 🤬

[@silentspartan46]

I’m glad it wasn’t just me that found that extremely annoying.

[@johnweber80]

When you said, "Can I play daddy?", all I could think of was the Wolfenstein guy with the bonnet and pacifier.

[@ewha2456]

The original flashlight also had true 3D volumetric lighting I think, which gave very realistic looking shadows cast on objects and enemies which grow, shrink and skew based on the distance away, as well as changing the shadow from lighter to darker. In the BFG edition it was significantly simplified to these static looking 2D shadows that are pre-baked to either on or off with nothing inbetween when using the weapon mounted flashlight.

[@Bigdaddymittens]

I think a lot of the design choices in OG doom 3 were meant to highlight the features of idtech 4. I wish there was an option to change things back though.

[@VaderTheWhite]

This.

[@bovinleephann6210]

> I wish there was an option to change things back though. ...just play the original then? Unless you're on console ofc

[@Damstructions-funny]

@@bovinleephann6210 It's another buy, man. They're two different things on PC.

[@Bigdaddymittens]

@@bovinleephann6210 Bfg edition runs better on my system. Plus, I like the added motion blur. Also, I don't think I should have to buy a game twice for the full experience. I own it on switch too though. Would have been nice to have the option to toggle between the original and the updated version.

[@Iliek]

They should give BFG owners the original for free.

[@DrearierSpider1]

Another change to the DOOM 1 & 2 WADs is that you don't have fast monsters on nightmare difficulty. I'm not sure if you can enable it through console commands since cheats are gone, too.

[@tomstonemale]

Thank god for mods, mate github.com/RobertBeckebans/RBDOOM-3-BFG/

[@randomnessftwman]

I feel it's somehow to make it slightly easier for console gamers...I get it it does take out a key function of the difficulty but especially since they added achievements to the One and PS4 versions to complete the game in Nightmare Co-op they most likely didn't want players just giving up but I did notice that playing lately

[@AdvancePlays]

I understand why the simultaneous flashlight and gun is antithetical to the game's more horror themes and setting, but personally I think it puts it more in line with the rest of the series. Running and gunning more freely feels a tad more like Doom.

[@SRGIProductions]

Funny thing, there was this bit towards the end of Alpha Labs 2 where you had to fight a horde of Trites to get a ladder raised. There's a health station on the wall close to the ladder and in the BFG Edition, I was able to jump on top of the health station and then finally jump to the exit on the upper floor, cutting out the first horde of Trites entirely. In the original, I couldn't do that no matter *what* I tried.

[@brysolationprime]

i'm glad you took time to mention the design of the Hell sections for the Lost Mission. Easily my favorite aspect of that expansion and I couldn't agree more that they did a great job with the artistic design there.

[@IvanOdintsoff]

I wish they had used these hell levels in the original campaign.

[@-Raylight]

3:55 HDoom, I see Gman is still man of culture xD

[@will4127]

So that's what that is. I was wondering why I was starting to feel a weird mix of sexual arousal and shame when I saw that.

[@TyrannoWright]

I actually like the new sound for the shotgun. Vanilla D3's shotgun seems to be nonexistent and all you hear is just the impact sounds; making the shotgun sound like you're just banging metal bars together. BFG's shotgun at least sounds like a shotgun with some power to it.

[@SRGIProductions]

That's the only thing about DOOM 3 BFG Edition that I liked, though that really doesn't say much...

[@valletas]

Well at least vanilla made sense seeing how weak it is Jokes aside i like the new sound too

[@alexanderrupert4379]

Agreed

[@alexanderrupert4379]

Honestly given non-existent ranged damege dealt by that shotgun you may as well be slapping metal bars around

[@saithfeed511]

its funny because the weapons (except the shotgun) in bfg edition sounded way more quiet than the og the og shotgun sound is actually loud in the game files compared to what you hear in the game because there's this code (which you can modify) about how loud or quiet the volume of each sounds in the game, and for some reason the shotgun volume were low compared to other weapons. I modified the volume to be loud and on par with the other weapons and it felt more satisfying.

[@factsoverfeelings1776]

If you played Doom 3 when it initially launched you would realize that a whole lot of people disliked the swap between gun and flashlight. That is why they did that.

[@frankw1592]

A lot of people appreciate that aspect of the game as it makes it scarier, but the people with sour grapes are going to be the loudest about it

[@AndalusianPrince]

@@valletas comparing doom 3 and silent hill is like comparing apples with oranges. Aka ur making 0 sense.

[@paperclip6377]

​@@frankw1592 bro the game isn't scary though. I'd say it's better to have the flashlight attached to the player because it doesn't remove from the non existent horror.

[@RGDcommentnode]

Anyone remember that leaked Doom 3 alpha from 2002/03? It was a demo for conventions like E3 and featured a lot of early content. Some of it's in the final game, like enemies, some level design, even cutscenes. It ends with a Hell Knight ripping the Doom Guy's head off and eating it. (a scripted scene, of course) Might be hard to find but there's KZbin playthroughs of it, naturally.

[@Arassar]

I downloaded that shit. It ran like ass on my Radeon. Ah memories...

[@cdcdrr]

15:28 Zombot: You move aside! Costellie: No you move aside! Zombot: He's got a grenade, ya mook! Costellie: Who're you calling a mook, ya palooka! Zombot: Who I oughta... *Boom*

[@habitatone]

The handheld flashlight was just a stupid decision and didn't made me feel more vulnerable, it made me feel pissed off. So the first thing i did back at the time was downloading the duct-tape-mod.

[@supersmashbro596]

i think the bfg edition was meant to make doom 3 more like classic doom. i mean with the flash light, double ammo, etc.. it's almost like they thought making doom 3 survival horror was a mistake, so they cobbled together doom 3 bfg to make it more like classic doom. to be honest, i dont mind the bfg edition. im kinda someone that prefers action-y doom. but i can see why people don't like it.

[@AlektorophobiA843]

4:36 The music order is unchanged because of lazy porting, the original XBLA release of Doom 2 had a different music order for NRFTL.

[@fwostyshrakes1870]

Do you know the track listing? Nvm it's probably on the Doom Wiki already

[@Bitterswoon]

The rare Gman review that I don't quite agree with...The clunky way the flashlight was used in the original Doom 3 could only be excused in a survival horror title, and yet he (correctly) points out multiple times that this is supposed to be an action game. I don't mind at all that the devs ended up trying to address that. I generally hate survival horror games, though, so I guess it depends on your preferences.

[@RockinEnabled]

It is 'supposed' to be smth mostly because of it's name, that's it. Did even Carmack say anything about them trying to make a pure action game but having a kinda-horror one in the end for some reason? I guess, not. Because they designed this game to be a horror one, in a way. Not a true horror, but not just a walk-and-shoot-stuff - an atmospheric game with at least some story. I definitely remember Carmack not being content with id's games becoming fast-paced shooters (like q3, for example). He wanted a smoother game, and I think that's why he came up with Doom 3 as it is. And I think the horror element suits a Doom game very well - how else would you see a situation of being one of the few alive on a Mars base?

[@yosefyonin6824]

this is why you could just download a mod for Doom3 to make the flashlight shoulder-mounted. you can't do vice versa in BFG edition because fucking bathesda made sure it WONT BE COMPATIBLE WITH MODS

[@Wakka9000]

Why action game can't have horror element? What about movie Aliens - it's one of most intense actions, and a horror. Doom 3 is insanely good, BFG shaves all that makes it intense

[@stolenname94]

Literally the flashlight sucks in bfg edition. It takes away the risk and reward factor you've always got your guns at the ready and thanks to the apprent lighting improvements means dark areas don't even look that dark anymore. I would call it preference but it not really consider it was a core part of the original game to pick your gun or visibility it also made it waaaay intense when you had to switch on the fly bfg has waaaay to much ammo and drops aswell making it just a matter of running and gunning everyone very easy to complete

[@Argoon1981]

@@stolenname94 BFG was made for consoles and those gamers that play occasionally and just want some minutes of fun, fast food gaming really. And they my friend are legion and Bethesda knows it and they only care about one thing, money.

[@TimmyTurner421]

With that ductaped flashlight on every weapon you kill what made the original game great

[@Bruced82]

The original game had a "ductape mod" that added just that and was VERY popular, so I guess most people didn't give a crap what the designers intended.

[@marrvynswillames4975]

The only moment i got "no ammo" in Doom 3 was on level 5 in RoE, and even without bullets, i still had 34 grenades

[@AllGamingStarred]

demon: "He's out of ammo, get him!" *tosses grenades like a mad man* Demon: "shi-" *BOOM!*

[@thesyndrome43]

I'm someone who played Doom 3 on release (I remember even saving up for a nvidia 6800gt which came with a copy of the game on 3 CD's), and I perfectly understand the design intention behind the flashlight being a separate weapon, I just fundamentally disagree with this design aspect being applied to a Doom game, and when I installed the duct tape mod all those years ago, I found that when you could actually see what was going on that it played much more like the Doom sequel that I wanted. On the topic of the BFG edition though, they have actually ruined it by brightening up the areas basic lighting, because it means there are much less chances for the lighting and shadow to fully contrast; I don't think having a flashlight isn't a sin, because you are still getting these amazing lighting and shadow effects in your peripheral outside of the beam, but by brightening up EVERY area it means this is less pronounced and makes the game look a LOT worse than it's 2003 version. Also boomer time: remember when every game coming out in the mid 2000's had incredible hard lighting? things like Doom 3, FEAR, Thief: Deadly Shadows, etc, I really miss stuff like that, it created very atmospheric scenes when everything cast a long and dark shadow, nowadays all soft shadows are blurry blob messes, and whilst soft shadows may be more realistic, I think it's also a lot LESS artistic

[@Habeel13]

I still have the game on 3 CDs :-)

[@gameragodzilla]

The lack of a mounted flashlight makes the combat more intense, though, as you had to stay on the move and use sound cues and glowing bits to ascertain enemy locations. And all the places had just enough ambient light to see your enemies if you knew what you were doing. It made it play much more like an intense, mobile shooter experience. That’s Doom. The flashlight just made the combat much easier and less tense, and the brighter lighting in general further washed out that atmosphere.

[@UserX03]

Those games used shadow volumes as their shadowing technology. Shadow mapping has won out though, which gives better performance although more “jaggies” if they aren’t aliased

[@makrostheblack4791]

Which is exactly the criticism the majority of people had back in the day, which is why they released the BFG in the first place. As much as I love Gman's videos, he missed the mark when he said the BFG edition was created so that it could be ported to consoles. It was, very literally, in response to the fact that the majority of people were doing just that, resorting to the duct tape mod, to get the more Doom like experience they were after.

[@gameragodzilla]

@Comrade von Herpenderpf FEAR wasn't scary. It was fun and the replicas were MENSA level geniuses, but it wasn't scary because the scary stuff mostly couldn't hurt you. FEAR 2 was better in the horror aspect, and lo and behold, they always tend to disable the flashlight in the horror parts.

[@CheekyChan]

"Doom 3 is an action game, not a survival horror game" "Flashlight adds survival horror mechanics and is their original vision." Ion Fury: "Not enough ammo." Doom 3: "Too much ammo for a survival horror game." 🤔

[@Gggmanlives]

CheekyChan is this supposed to prove some kind of point? Or just be a series of unrelated quotes?

[@CheekyChan]

@@Gggmanlives Nah. I'm just joshing on ya, mostly. I mean, the game is supposed to be part "survival" horror but it's more a horror shooter than anything but it's a bit flip floppy to say it's not a survival horror game but then compare it to a survival with it's lack of ammo in the original game. I was just pointing it out to be a dick.

[@eliteguard225]

Having one element of survival horror doesn't make an entire game survivor horror. Doom 3 still offers you a lot of guns, ammo, health and armor every level.

[@SaltyFrenchFries]

Heh, almost thought gman was making a joke or something. But really, I really do hate the separate flashlight, it just ends up being a pain in the ass like flashlight batteries in half life 2.

[@Riverslidebishop]

I'm playing through Doom 3 for my first time at the moment. I'm playing BFG edition because I'm a console pleb. I'm playing on veteran (the hardest difficulty you have for a first playthrough) and for the past few hours I've been maxed out of every type of ammo, including BFG. This game 100% gives you too much ammo, regardless of whether or not you're judging it as a survival horror. I think this game is more generous with ammo than any other shooter I've ever played.

[@jotunforgedmedia7579]

"SGT Kelly looks like his existence is pain" - thats literally every Marine I've ever met lol.

[@alexanderthegrape2023]

Give them someone's wife and they'll be set

[@jillvalentinefan77]

It's painful being Uncle Sam's Misguided Children.

[@SylphidUndine]

3:18 "seeing as the zombie men have about as much intelligence as people who do reaction videos to movie trailers" GOLD

[@predetor911]

3:22 Damn Gman just burned so many people it deserves a "Schwacked!"

[@qusaifarid513]

Maybe he was truly pissed off to do that

[@AlexeiVoronin]

I've played both editions and I wouldn't say the BFG Edition is bad - it just has a few questionable design choices, which can be overlooked (unless you're really nitpicky). I actually prefer the original flashlight because it doesn't run out of power after 30 seconds (I hate that). The only thing that really annoyed me in BFG Edition is that they cut some stuff from Resurrection of Evil (e.g. the HAZMAT suit, the dimensional shift effect in Delta Labs, and a whole freakin' room in the final level) - it is quite ironic that the newer and (supposedly) better engine supports fewer stuff than the older one. I know the classic Doom WADs got some censorship too, but I never bothered playing them - I have the original 1993/1994 versions and they are not censored in any way. Plus, you can grab the NERVE.WAD file and play it in ZDoom :)

[@Clay3613]

Those things were cut because of consoles limitations of the last generation.

[@virusinfection1]

Clay3613 there was no need to roe on the original Xbox wasn’t cut down at all except for some reason they took the flashlight out and put it on the pistol

[@rilluma]

nightmare difficulty is also not working in BFG edition

[@AlexeiVoronin]

@@rilluma I don't remember such a thing - I think it was working. Are you sure?

[@AlexeiVoronin]

@Nocny Cieć z Choroszczy Yeah, that's how it was in the original Doom 3 - Nightmare was initially locked until you beat the game once... unless you knew the console command to unlock it ;)

[@megahyperfistgaming7751]

I would love a review of the original Xbox version of the game it was how I first played doom 3. The load times were abysmal

[@DanielAyy]

You want it? You got it.

[@jothain]

Load times weren't bad at all if you had game on HDD 😉 They were actually pretty damn short.

[@RealHamburglar]

Still got it?

[@LunatiqHigh]

"Too much ammo 1/10" -GmanLives lol

[@kazumajay]

"Zombie men has much intelligence as people who reacts to movie trailers" SHOTS FIRED I REPEAT SHOTS FIRED

[@guilhermesg2000]

Jarek would be proud of the FOV slighter.

[@mikeangelo2886]

90 FoV iS TeH sTanDArd iN GAmiNg

[@guilhermesg2000]

@@mikeangelo2886 hahaha. For shure it is, for players like me an FOV slighter is pretty much important, because i suffer from motion sickness and need to be close of the pc to play properly.

[@jellymop]

I actually like the BFG edition better than the original. The controls were better and you could have your flashlight out while wielding a gun. It also supported widescreen 1080p. But that’s just my opinion.

[@StefanSochinsky]

Funny story: One of the first video games I ever remember playing on a computer was Wolfenstien 3d. I think I was maybe 3-4 at the time and when my father was setting it up, he explained to me that he was putting it on "Daddy Can I play?" Being that age I didn't understand the joke and thought it was a game mode specifically designed for gamers like myself at the time (children). So, yes GManLives, we should be friends ;-)

[@Nightmaroid]

Great story bro! At least you could play it, I had to watch my cousin cause I was too young for that. I was also like 3 at the time and also named Stefan 🤙

[@Gravinus]

Once heard someone complaining about having to hold the flashlight as breaking immersion because it's unrealistic to not have a fixed light on the armor... then I pointed out the fact that you carry EIGHT WEAPONS on your person.

[@Donkula23]

to me the immersion break was "Duct tape doesn't exist in the future?"

[@Gravinus]

@@Donkula23 I just don't get why that would break immersion when carrying 8 weapons wouldn't.

[@jeremyadkins9665]

@@Gravinus Take this with a grain of salt, since it is television, but Mythbusters tested the "cache and carry" method shown in Doom, and showed it is possible with a trained and fit marine, even with the weapons being haphazardly strewn about their body. A real marine, I'd imagine, would know how to properly stow away the weapons for easier movement while still making them accessible on the fly, given a few minutes of peace to do so.

[@Donkula23]

@@Gravinus Carrying 8 weapons is plausible but unlikely you'd be the most effective thing in the world... but it is immersion breaking that a fighting force wouldn't have a light on armor like in BFG, or the marine going "Wait shit it's dark in the hallways where the power is iffy I should strap a flashlight to my shotgun"

[@Thysamithan]

I never minded the 'no duct tape on Mars'. They would have gotten a batch of crates with new tape, but accidentally got delivered with crates full of chainsaws. I never understood why Doomguy didn´t use both hands. One hand his flashlight, the other hand his pistol, a one handed weapon. THAT was immersion breaking. "You have TWO hands!!! Use them!"... He didn´t even punch.

[@DenGuleBalje]

I thought Carmack made the modifications to make Doom 3 runnable in VR..

[@PSPCVR]

It works wonderfully in VR! Here's a link to the mod: github.com/KozGit/DOOM-3-BFG-VR and here's a tutorial video with links by F4CEpa1m x_0: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZjalqZomMR-gZY.

[@VaderTheWhite]

He did, but Bethesda said no. It's more or less why he left id.

[@whatscracklin7390]

That would have been awesome

[@Cardthulhu]

@@whatscracklin7390 github.com/KozGit/DOOM-3-BFG-VR/releases youre welcome. It says alpha but it works well and is feature complete

[@Pilotgeek]

@@whatscracklin7390 Someone finished the Doom 3 VR mod, and it's awesome github.com/KozGit/DOOM-3-BFG-VR

[@untethered24]

The BFG edition was closer to the original Doom games than the original Doom 3. Huge improvement. Didn't buy Doom 3 to play a survival horror game. I wanted DOOM.

[@twinzzlers]

But most Doom 3 fans liked Doom 3 for it's survival horror

[@edwinfrerichs8674]

I for one would of liked a flashlight upgrade later in the game to be attached to a pistol or something. That way you keep the spooky atmosphere at the beginning, but give you much needed light sources at the later levels.

[@MorgueOfficialMusic]

*would have

[@edwinfrerichs8674]

@@MorgueOfficialMusic I know what I said, while it may not BE proper grammar it has become common enough to not only appear in writings and movies but also in the common tongue.

[@MorgueOfficialMusic]

@@edwinfrerichs8674 So is herpes.. Doesn't make it ok

[@edwinfrerichs8674]

@@MorgueOfficialMusic Comparing herpes to language isn't something I would do, all that does is who how little respect you have for the history of language. There are several sayings and words that only came to be because they became common. Even the meaning of words changes over time, anyone who studied the history of language would know that. If it was a basic spelling error or something I'd say thanks and leave it alone, but "would of" is already becoming part of our common language, who knows a few decades from now it may even become the correct way to say things. But, in my eyes, I'm going to keep using it since it's common enough that people won't even notice that it's 'wrong'.

[@MorgueOfficialMusic]

@@edwinfrerichs8674 alright Karen

[@wamba2097]

One nitpick I had with the BFG Edition was the change in the player's footstep sounds. Now he sounds like he's walking about in slippers on a carpet!

[@SpiffingNZ]

Maybe Doomguy likes running around in slippers as He massacres the hordes of Hell.

[@pascalg.-berardi9242]

BFG Edition also supports 3D, which requires a work around in the original. Doom 3 4K 3D is REALLY a looker.

[@averagejackmedia609]

God... I remember I had that one friend that had a PC powerful enough to run Doom 3 at high settings at release.. it was magical at the time. I couldn't believe a computer could render graphics like that without melting.

[@barfcoswill]

The BFG PC version implemented some interesting 3-D monitor modes, back when 3D was sort-of a thing. I had a 3D monitor and tried the BFG in 3D, it was the best 3D experience I had with a shooter (i.e., wasnt that great but better than anything else). Precursor to VR, perhaps they will do remakes of these classics in VR.

[@Stolnjak]

I got the "Can I play daddy" reference, and I've played the original Doom(s) many times and guess what: The mounted flashlight and the enhanced lightning, imo, are improvements. They make the game a bit more playable. But hey I probably have bad taste for not enjoying getting swarmed with monsters in tight corridors with barely any lighting. I will agree on the ammo and save popups, but I don't think the rest deserves to be criticised that way. Not every original is superior. Then again, everyone has their own preference.

[@stolenname94]

I just feel like the original xbox release was way more difficult than the bfg edition, I recently played through on a one x and found it a better experience gameplay wise because of the flashlight mount. But it lost its scare factor mostly for me because of it and the extra ammo. I rather liked switching between the flashlight and gun on the xbox and the pc version.

[@selfhelp9685]

Yeah swithing between a flashlight seems dumb.

[@petarvodenski5477]

They complained about the flashlight when it first came out now they changed it and they complain again lol

[@DieNische]

Thank you so much for this review. And thank you for pointing out the flashlight design choice and its background in the original. On point!

[@TheAtlas247]

Somewhere down the line, would you be interested in taking a look at the Doom 3 BFG UltimateHD mod in an episode of mod corner? It turns up the difficulty by beefing up the enemies but balances it out by making your weapons more impactful (with new animations and textures for both). It also nerfs the amount of ammo you can carry at one time to mitigate the changes that the BFG edition made to the ammo pickups. Certain weapons like the shotgun and the chaingun are just fire now. Here's a link for the mod authors latest update video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIu3ooWhd6qSZqc

[@Hravokh]

15:25 : "after you my good Sir. no no after you. Oh no i insist, after you"

[@TDHurley]

I disagree with your flashlight opinion. I remember having this game when it came out in 2004. The crappy weapon sound effects and overly dark levels were the biggest complaints online. Most people hated the switching of the Flash light.

[@kkarx]

Switching between flashlight and weapons is utterly stupid.

[@DanBharry]

every time Gman uses an Inbetweeners meme i add to favorites.

[@vlweb3d]

*GONNA HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU THERE BRO ...* You are a Marine, you WILL have a flashlight mounted either on your shoulder or on your weapons. Even today's soldiers have mounted flashlights - so a soldier of the future MUST have even better equipment than soldiers of today.

[@DragoonBB]

...Ok that's great too bad that's not at all why he doesn't like this change.

[@erikthegamer8727]

Thats exactly what i thought. Since gman is not involved in military too much maybe he missed this part.

[@Donkula23]

@@DragoonBB too bad even the developers said in the past not including a mounted flashlight was a mistake...

[@genghiskhan2068]

I have flahlights mounted on my shotguns and carbines. Pretty essentional for home defense imo. Otherwise you're walking blind in thaalt situation.

[@DragoonBB]

@@Donkula23 Nice what does that have to do with What Gman or op even said though? Even if that's what the devs said Gman is still right in saying it gave you that horror vibe of exploring in the dark and not being immediately prepared for what you'll run into. How are people watching these reviews without learning anything from game design?smh

[@dimscrawl4910]

12:43 this is the fine, aristocratic content that I come for

[@peach1389]

Hey, big fan of the channel here, and ugh... thank you so much for this breakdown/review. I only played Ultimate/2/Master/Final within the past year or so. I remember playing the intro of Doom 3 as a kid and being absolutely blown away, so I wanted to go back and actually finish that one. I’ve been putting it off for the better part of a year, because I didn’t know if I should get Doom 3 and Resurrection of Evil, or just get the BFG edition. I’m finally going to pull the trigger on the original Doom 3, as it was intended. Again, thanks!

[@TheSixteen60]

11:27 Fun Fact: Id Software wanted to have the flashlight shoulder mounted in the original Doom 3, although they didn’t since they feared it would mess uo the performance. In short, the mounted flashlight is correct in some way.

[@ReticentSparrow]

"This is the 'can I play, Daddy' version of the game." Damn, son. Shots fired. I won't lie. I wasn't expecting to agree with this one, but the cross change, removal of the haz-mat suit, and other things take away from what might have been.

[@Xx_HD_xX]

"Now they just clip through each other like this horrible looking mess" "Ad for mobile game plays" Perfect timing

[@Remu-]

14:35 "At this point people still wanna say it's survival horror?" It is for the demons xD

[@floridahighwaypatrol7713]

3:19 “seeing as the zombie men have about as much intelligence as people who do reaction videos to movie trailers”. Tyrone Magness : “so you have chosen death”

[@dilovanser3469]

I’ve always enjoyed doom 3 because of its survival horror aspect and that the monsters are still a threat to you.

[@TheJDeuce]

Same

[@MaxiemumKarnage]

May be working a 7-7 on a Sunday, but hey, get to watch this during my break. I'll take that small victory. Edit: what kind of psychopath actually liked the handheld flashlight? The shoulder one fixed one of two major issues with DooM 3 on consoles, plus everyone uses the duct tape mod on PC anyways. Why would you ever want the game to be more clunky?

[@dmxdxl]

Dude my head was shaking uncontrollably in a nodding motion when you said "IDDQD" + "IDKFA" haha, as a kid I memorized those codes and played the SHIT outta DOOM 1 and 2, it gave me nightmares but fuck man it was worth it, that being said you are by FAR my favourite gaming reviewer (and lover of games as well) on KZbin, seriously your reviews are always so informative but entertaining not just a talking head, glad I subbed to you and enjoy all the content you put out, CHEERS!!!....

[@garrettgutierrez2677]

The thing about the flashlight is that instead of actually contributing to the scary horror atmosphere like it was intended, it just made things annoying, because you were forced to trade off between actually being able to see the environment, and having to suffer through the annoyance of waiting for the switch-to-gun-animation to finish before shooting an enemy. I understand what they were trying to accomplish with the standalone flashlight but I don't think they actually accomplished it. Most gamers just felt annoyed rather than scared.

[@TheMovieslingers]

"Can I play daddy?" .... I understood that reference lol

[@Superschokokeks]

Talks about mod for dooms and from all those interesting and good mods he shows H-Doom savage!

[@flyingfireballmaster1816]

8:04 I played the BFG Edition as my introduction to Doom in general and when I saw the opening text I thought "Well this is just stupid and amateurish." I had no idea that they'd changed in from the original game, where the music and visuals actually made it work decently.

[@guyofminimalimportance7]

I think the debate over the flash lite is more representative over the divide in the fanbase the game created. People who appreciated the game forcing you to chose between light or protection to build tension were all on board with the game's shift towards horror, while players who wanted to have the flashlight mounted and available at all times were more interested in the franchises original play style focusing on action and making the player feel powerful. P.S: No matter how good of a tension builder it is the lack of a mount for the light is it's still unrealistic, and the fact that you can't even hold a pistol in your other hand while it's equipped is so dumb I'd say it counts as a plot hole.

[@don_the_red2657]

remember kids: play bfg edition only for the lost mission and no rest for the wicked play only DOOM 1 2 and 3 orginal on pc

[@sonicseztrapsaregay4249]

Don_The_Red ok

[@DeadYorick]

You now don't need to play BFG for Lost Mission since it was ported to the vanilla game.

[@punctuationman334]

DeadYorick how?

[@DeadYorick]

@@punctuationman334 www.moddb.com/mods/the-lost-mission

[@CybershamanX]

(7:35) Ugh. Yeah, the "beep beep beep!" sound for every character that appears on the screen in the BFG edition is downright ANNOYING! Yeah, they totally borked the original creepy introduction... Why? WHY??? :/

[@PatrickGilland]

There's a mod for BFG Edition called Doom 3 BFA that fixes or reverts some of the changes. It restores the muzzle flash lighting, and there is a menu option that lets you swap out the shoulder flashlight for the hand one, but only for New Game. Including a third option that adds the shoulder version's limited battery to the hand flashlight. Apparently it re-adds mod support, but I haven't messed around with that yet. Also it adds features for the Classic Doom games that restores cheats, adds widescreen, crosshair, free aim, jumping, etc. Then there are certain separate mods online that restore the red cross symbols and the Wolfenstein levels, and another one that makes the music for Classic Doom use the more familiar midis. I think these are good options for anyone who bought BFG Edition first and don't want to double dip for the basic Doom 3. www.moddb.com/mods/classic-rbdoom-3-bfg-edition

[@AC-hj9tv]

God bless the modders

[@TheRealCatof]

I actually prefer the shoulder mounted flash light. It's more immersiv,

[@carscoffeeandcannabis-634]

Doesn't happen often, but I gotta disagree with you on this one. I tried Doom 3 way back, and I couldn't jive with the pacing with the flashlight. An ACTION game where I have to switch back to my flashlight every 10 seconds, just felt confused about it's identity. Like it WANTED to be survival horror but couldn't quite commit. Now I'm playing BFG edition on Switch (exclusively in handheld) and I am REALLY enjoying it. Seems to feel a lot more like an action game with horror elements, rather than the identity confused game it felt like to me when i first played it EDIT: Just wanted to add, the FOV slider is super necessary, and very helpful. I really struggle to play FPS games on Switch Handheld mode, , but after sliding FOV up to 100, and FINALLY I feel like I can aim properly on one of these games. Desperately wish more Switch games had it

[@AlyxxTheRat]

As far as I'm concerned, both versions are legit versions and neither is "worse" objectively. It just depends on what you prefer.

[@ragingsaviorkami9862]

Also it's funny how people hate on BFG for being too bright and having too much Ammo. Don't get me wrong, I love all Doom games, and I loved Doom 3, but I mean a lot of people hate it because it's more of a horror. I mean, doesn't BFG bring it closer to the original? Just play on harder difficulty, and you get your classic fast paced gameplay, you don't have to worry about light or ammo, you just shoot things.

[@intorsusvolo7834]

Thanks for the coverage of small changes. I don’t have the game but I got the artbook because the art style is so unique in Doom 3.

[@tcchip]

I started with the vanilla versions of Doom 3 and Resurrection of Evil, and the only reason I have the BFG edition is from sales bundles. I actually felt the vanilla game had some survival horror aspect to it. Yes, you had a fair bit of ammo, but not for the guns that can easily help you get you out of a tight spot until you get the BFG. Most of the times you're in such tight confines that the rocket launcher would just be harmful to you instead. The fact that you needed to reload still limited the amount of firepower you could throw out, finding times to reload while being closed in from several directions and in generally areas too cramped to simply run away from. I personally felt the survival horror aspect to the game was in juggling the original flashlight, and having to double back for health at higher difficulties. Did you want to fight in the dark, or take the risk to run through to a better lit area and hope you don't encounter anything you can't run past? Or knowing that the health and armor pickup in front of you is definitely a trap, but you needed to risk picking it up anyway. Plus in Nightmare, your health constantly depletes and you needed the Soul Cube to keep your health topped up. But yes, Resurrection of Evil pretty much went all out action, and there was almost no survival aspect to it, though it was a pretty decent expansion taken on its own merit. And I must say, once you get the chainsaw in the campaign, you could just cut your way through most of the enemies you'd find in areas you'd need the flashlight for, and the game loses most of its scare factor by then. I really didn't like what was done in the BFG Edition. The Lost Levels weren't bad per se. But they felt more like something made by a competent modder than something id made themselves. It made sense that they were cut from the base game, because while it wasn't bad per se, it wasn't necessary, and just more of the same stuff which had already been done better in the campaign. And limiting your saved game slots was just an incredibly stupid idea which can easily be fixed had id been arsed to, but nope. It doesn't even make sense, since Doom 3 wasn't eating up so much space that even consoles didn't have room to save as many slots as you wanted.

[@JJdoomkiller]

There’s one good thing about the BFG edition... that being the Doom 3 VR mod.

[@ijslandernl]

Doom 3 is one of my all-time favourite games. I really don't understand the design choices in this BFG Edition. If the original has cut-scenes that can't be skipped it's obvious they'd think it was a mistake and in the re-release they change it so they can actually be skipped. However, with this BFG Edition they've done the exact opposite. How could they've ever thought: "Being able to skip cut-scenes was a big mistake. We should really make them unskippable." The same with unlimited saves. How could they ever think: "Unlimited saves was such a failure. Let's implement limited saves that are shared across all three campaigns." What a waste of time and money this BFG Edition is. Another thing about the flashlight: Wasn't the whole point of the game this UAC facility suddenly literally going to Hell? In this kind of situation I wouldn't even expect them to be fully prepared for a massive invasion of zombies and demons. It makes sense to have a flashlight lying around in a locker which you take with you at the start of the game. However, immediately equipping a newly arrived marine with armour that has a flashlight mounted to it or a shotgun that has a flashlight attached to it doesn't make sense when not even one zombie or demon has been seen. Yeah, people working at the UAC did have some visions and did hear some strange sounds, but does that mean you'll immediately have to equip a newly arrived marine with the most high-end military stuff? Stuff that's probably not even that accessible, because they're on Mars which means they can only use whatever stuff they've got until the next shipment from Earth arrives. Yes, they do make all kinds of things at the UAC, but you'll still need resources that have to come from Earth. Of course, being completely prepared for an outbreak of zombies and demons isn't the first thing you think of when going to Mars or even after you've been running an industrial company on Mars for many years. Having an old-fashioned flashlight just makes much more sense when walking around a facility like UAC that suddenly goes to shit.

[@GeorgeNadaYT]

Did they change the flashlight again because I just recently installed the 360 BFG edition version on my Xbox One and the flashlight power depletes so you can't keep it on all the time.