Doom Eternal Review - Best FPS ever?

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[@markbernard8312]

only 8 more days until M&B Bannerlord drops :)

[@benjaminburns4412]

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[@gtabro1337]

Oh shit it’s almost here Incomoletely forgot about that beta or whatever it is :o

[@Charok1]

but only early access, the full release is a year from now. so still be disappointed

[@tuff-knorf4561]

Let’s see if they added poles for us to swing from in Bannerlord as well..

[@TheRixtah1]

I was beginning to doubt I would see the day

[@WorthABuyreviews]

Summary: Guys I wanted to add more to the review but ran out of time due to IRL stuff sorting stuff out for my Mother with all this virus stuff going on. So I will add it here instead. The boss fights in this game are more like Dark souls fights, watching and learning the moves, dodging, parrying then hitting, I found them really boring for a FPS, they could have been way better. The level design is great most of the time but some are terrible, very inconsistent which was disappointing for a Doom game. It's just like a series of closed arenas joined together by some boring parkour levels that really feel like they belong in Tomb raider or Assassins creed, certainly not Doom. The brilliant combat is what allows you to forget the immersion breaking parkour, the bad levels, the boring bosses or the stupid collectables. I think you may struggle with a controller, this game was made for K+M, especially on the harder difficulties which make the game so much more enjoyable to play. I never had time for multiplayer, it sounded meh anyway, so there you go, sorry if the review was a bit jumbled this time but it's been a horrible week, am sure next week will be a lot better.

[@Thomas21408]

Ey take care dude! You're the best reviewer out there imo, so it was absolutely worth the wait for the review! Take care and be safe!

[@silentdaggerfall5387]

You legend Mac thx for all your advice over the years :)

[@tilburg8683]

Take care man.

[@Underground3]

@@clementine2001 Corona-Chan destroying more of the current establishment and the economy.

[@Ramses4821]

Agreed boss fights are brutal

[@battlemode]

"It's just a platforming... f'ing Manic Miner f'ing Lara Croft..." LOL!

[@tam8197]

@@clementine2001 it was certainly as fucking hard, have you tried the online darnkitty version ? fuck me sideways.

[@BinaryReader]

@@clementine2001 Jet Set Willy was better imo

[@battlemode]

@@clementine2001 I still have my copy somewhere, and Jet Set Willy! I'm also an old bastard like Mack

[@RayBanJockey]

Speaking of which, Shadow of the Tomb Raider has a deep sale right now, I mean if you're in to that kind of thing.

[@jamiecruze5208]

The platforming is keeping me away from this one. Bah

[@Handonforehead]

You can look at different limbs of the demon to get different animations

[@MrAndrei4777]

I’m so happy that there is a reviewer named Mack. He is sceptical and honest in his own way. He doesn’t ride hype trains and is a mature, serious person. Keep up the good work!

[@bigmack70]

Meh... I liked the platforming. You said yourself that this game is so intense you have to take breaks. I think this game would be unbearably tiring without the platforming and exploration. Gives it a nice balance.

[@ScottJoC]

Exactly, Doom 2016 is whats this game is without the platforming and I can never be arsed to play that for long because its all too much

[@codyvandal2860]

@@ScottJoC except with 2016 its basically circle strafing and the occasional pick up. You could also skirt the edges of arenas. Here it's chainsaw, flame belch, meat hook, ice bomb, frag grenade, blood punch, chain saw, and crucible in BETWEEN all the constant dashing and shooting. I enjoyed Doom 2016 a lot but this one is way more intense. I gotta take breaks lol

[@MrMugwump44]

Couldn't have said it better. I've been playing on ultraviolence and I'm thankful for the platforming because it gives me a break from the insanity

[@mIXsaz]

Yup, platforming gave a nice relief. Also - it had very nice soothing or epic music, which was a welcome change of pace to the metal parts (which, actually, got me tired; gonna replay doom with some calmer background) All in all, this doom is so arcady and in your face about it, the platforming just becomes a given.

[@MrSHURIKENCHO]

The platforming may be ok, but I agree with the statement that it is out of place visually. You are in a broken landscape and you see yellow handlebars conveniently stretched out of the fucking cliffs. It looks stupid and "gamey" and not like it's a part of the world.

[@LaneTheSlain]

I was surprised at how polarizing the platforming became. I honestly didn't mind it myself. Breaks up the pacing a little bit, which is fine by me.

[@mck7646]

Yeah I enjoy it.

[@sachigame924]

Same, the massive battles could get so intense and adrenaline-pumping I really appreciated the parkour bits in-between to kind of wind things down a little bit in-between fights. Maybe it's not like the original doom, but...I don't give a flip. I never liked original doom to be honest, it was always a clunky archaic game and doom 2016 and eternal are just better in every way, even when factoring in the technology of their times.

[@MeniscoManeiro]

Same here...people have a tendency to expect complete insanely onslaught from doom. But forget that a game is just like a roller coaster, you can't have all ups without downs.

[@shees66]

@@sachigame924 ok zoomer

[@Renbuscus]

Ar cade bloody hell you’re a comedian aren’t ya? What a funny joke

[@rentalsnake6542]

Love the brutal honesty Mack, you're the cool uncle the gaming community needs, I don't always agree with your reviews, but I know if you say a game is worth a buy then it truly is.

[@enoch13th85]

I think he was just pissed they wouldn't give him a key lol. Nah, Mack's great, you know he's honest when literally nobody gives him keys. He can be a bit biased against certain genres where I don't always agree but I'd rather that than him pretend to be objective. 10/10 IGN.

[@rentalsnake6542]

@@enoch13th85 yeah man, with IGN everything is a 7-9 so what's the point in their 0-10 scale? If a game has any flaws Mack won't be shy to absolutely tear into them which is what we need, too many people these days praise mediocrity, whereas Mack just refuses to conform to that daft mentality. And besides that, is their any other reviewer that can make you piss your sides than this ald bastard lol.

[@enoch13th85]

@@rentalsnake6542 The 1-10 system is kinda redundant. It should be 1 = terrible, 5 = OK, 10 = brilliant and everything in between, but somewhere along the way it became anything under an 8 is garbage. Plus IGN are so inconsistent which is to be expected when you've got a bunch of failed journalists who aren't even gamers. Following reviewers like Mack is much more personal, you know what he likes and doesn't and know you can trust him not to sellout. I completely agree, I've been watching Mack for years since he was around 10,000 subs or something, some of his reviews are hilarious. And like I said, I know I can always trust him to be honest whether I sometimes disagree or not. The only other reviewer I respected was TB who sadly isn't with us anymore. R.I.P.

[@MaTtRoSiTy]

Yeah he's been pretty reliable for me as far as making decisions on buying games. I disagree with some but his reasons for thumbing down are pretty fair.

[@Uncleswerves]

Kapp

[@YouCanCallMeMich]

Btw all reviews I've seen that mention the platforming as a bad thing is showing footage of them going slow af...after mission 3 the flow of the platforming goes so fast, you don't even think about it anymore, it feels natural AND it goes over into the combat with the increased verticality, it's awesome, the jumping from wall to wall or through a wall feels so powerfull, it adds to the badassness of our protagonist!

[@Paul_Hardy]

I prefer Doom 2016. It's got more atmosphere. The new one is a bit too colourful for my tastes, especially the way the enemies explode into rainbow coloured fountains of ammunition when you chainsaw them. The Doomguy should never be anywhere near anything that remotely resembles a rainbow.

[@tylerw.100]

Awww. Is your fragile masculinity being threatened?

[@crawnorris97]

good comment exactly what I was thinking

[@Paul_Hardy]

@@tylerw.100 No, I just think the aesthetic of a Doom game should be a bit darker and a lot less like candy crush.

[@lordthruxawe504]

@@Paul_Hardy I hate to be that guy but it sounds like something that could easily be modded out.

[@apeblackberry3641]

did you even saw the twitch prime exclusive skin? You will love it my dude haha.

[@jorixpalorn3738]

I've griped plenty about the lack of ammo in this game but I'm kinda surprised how much people hate the mere existence of platforming in this game. I honestly cannot stand platformers myself, enough that I won't ever get the newest Ori game no matter how good it is. However the platforming in this game really isn't bad. Its quick, responsive and not particularly difficult. I've never heard a person criticize the platforming as bad, but I've seen a TON of people hate the fact that it merely exists. They get morally offended that someone dare put platforming in their doom game. Like it hasn't existed in one form or another since the original.

[@Sambhaid]

Its more a immersion thing for me at least, the platforming sections just make zero sense. I mean who put all those swing-poles and grip walls there? The real hero of this story is that guy (or demon)

[@cirion66]

@@Sambhaid Yup pretty much - I am enjoying the flow of the combat and it is really entertaining, but the Doom Eternal is drastically more "arcady and cartoonish" than 2016, the platforming feels out of place most of the time, but I digress... I still recommend the game. Edit: Oh, on a second note - I actually have bigger issue with those giant red/green punchable / shootable buttons... What are those?! They make no sense!

[@chriswinspear7965]

Platforming in Doom did not exist until Doom 2016, beyond stuff like the sprinting across intricate gaps or paths ala the end of Tricks and Traps. I think doom 2016 handled jumping and climbing brilliantly. I think this time there's just too much of it, ie it's become a big staple part of the gameplay loop. I mean hells invasion just perfectly placed all these grab ledges, jumps and climbing walls perfectly positioned exactly the distance Doom guy can burst or jump. How Convinient, hells minions planned the Doom Slayers play park climbing frame better than most civil engineers could plan a road.

[@JohnCrichton]

@@chriswinspear7965 Yeah it's corny and doesnt work. But that doesnt make it bad. It simply ruins the immersion.

[@thelonelycracker8768]

@@Sambhaid yeah and who the fuck designed the cities in doom 2? just looks like a bunch of cardboard boxes glued together. 0/10 fucking unplayable. no immersion in here, terrible game doom sucks fuck doom

[@ZacTheFirst]

“The game is so intense you have to take breaks” “The game is so repetitive” .....that’s what the platforming’s for. To give you breaks from how wonderfully exhausting a long battle can be, and to break the repetition. It gives you some room to breathe but it isn’t just a staircase or cave to walk thru. It makes you actually have to partake in the game to get to the next fight instead of being fight after fight. The only memorable “platforming” part in 2016 I can remember is the little laser puzzle. Doom 2016 was EXTREMELY repetitive in comparison to this game, and honestly, is now a 7/10 game just by Eternal releasing. It was an 8 or an 8.5 at time of release, and will always be an awesome game, but will have not aged super well because of Eternal introducing so many new things. This game’s release really highlights 2016’s flaws that we may not have realized before Eternal. And the fact that some people described this game’s platforming as “puzzles” is kinda telling as to where their head is. Sure some of it is “puzzles” but they’re literally extremely simple. Less than a “puzzle” in a game Half Life would be.

[@RJ-mi3ck]

ZacTheFirst not only just the platforming but reading Codex Entries help break up the combat as well if you ever feel like reading them in between the fights. They’re a nice little breather, and they contain a shit load of interesting lore and world building. The game literally offers so many ways to mix the game up a bit by combining different enemies you encounter in a fight as well as the unique and well made arenas, and they literally reward you for exploring as well. This guy was contradicting pretty much every point he made in the video. He said there’s no rewards that can actually help you even though they reward shit like extra lives and cheat codes when you solve puzzles or explore, which are super useful. Then he starts bitching about the collectibles for whatever reason as like they weren’t already in the Doom 2016 as well. Like honestly the whole time he was just pulling a bunch of pointless gripes and nitpicks our of his ass just so he can be a contrarian and not praise the game like pretty much everyone else is doing, and the praise is definitely well deserved. Id had so much passion for this game, and it shows.

[@FableWolfe]

Yes, thank you. That's exactly what I wanted to say. I don't understand why it's so immersion-breaking that an unstoppable, superhuman, badass warrior with magical abilities and endless stamina can climb a wall or swing on poll. Ridiculous. I like Mack's videos, but on this we definitely disagree.

[@MorrisseyMuse]

The Turok games had platforming in them. Everyone hated those sections too.. :) The last thing that should "break up" the intense combat in an FPS such as these is something as unsuited to the FPS genre as platforming! Don't get me started on limited ammo..! :)

[@ZacTheFirst]

@@MorrisseyMuse 1. The turok games are very dated and were designed to work for a controller with a single analog stick, so they're kinda clunky even when playing the modern rereleases because of how old they are, so a lot of the platforming is a bit weird, but that game, similar to Doom Eternal, is about keeping momentum and not getting hit, and finding items, instead of running towards an enemy and shooting and calling it a day. And the platforming is a huge part of what makes Turok what it is. If it were just " Goldeneye with dinosaurs" or whatever people would remember the game as being way more limited in scope and style than it already is. 2. I still do not understand the ammo complaint. I literally almost never ran out of ammo. JUST USE THE CHAINSAW. The chainsaw recharges every 10 - 15 seconds and there's the endlessly respawning zombie/imp/gargoyle enemies in EVERY SINGLE fight that you can use it on to get ammo. Because of this, you essentially have unlimited ammo and way more ammo than you would have in Doom 2016.

[@FableWolfe]

@@MorrisseyMuse You say "everyone hated those sections too," implying everyone hates platforming int Doom. That's demonstrably false. My experience of people's feelings on the subject has been rather mixed, but in my case I had fun with them. They added a sense of movement and verticality that the previous game just didn't do well enough. To say that something like climbing or swinging ruins immersion is not only subjective, but frankly a bit petty. Moreover, why exactly is platforming "unsuited?" It works for me, and often brings an additional layer of fun to the game.

[@ArcangelZero7]

"SOCIETY, WHY?!?!" Yeah that actually held me back from 100%-loving the Doom 2016 game. You clear a whole crazy room full of monsters, adrenaline pumping...but SOMEWHERE...there's a BOBBLEHEAD and a SECRET DOOR... The worst thing is I felt like I was missing something if I didn't find those things...so here I am hopping around an empty level climbing on stuff and poking around every corner like I got locked in a department store for the night, instead of slaying demons. Blah. I understand the pacing thing, and need for variety, but I felt like it stomped the brakes a bit. The design around health/ammo pickups is incredible though, how the game encourages you to be MORE aggressive when you're in danger, instead of hiding behind stuff or hunting down pickups.

[@keg3212]

Can't say I agree, I'm absolutely loving it, including the platforming. I haven't seen platforming done this well in an FPS ever, it's a nice break from the frantic shooting. But otherwise, good review.

[@BorNeoProg]

@Stacey Bowtell as someone who has played the original doom multiple times, quake and the build engine games. I can safely say that all the elements are integrated perfectly well. Doom 2 had a lot of platforming which were limited by the technology of its time. I'm glad Doom Eternal is its own thing, while paying tribute to so so many games and genres. There were quake arenas, there were Doom 3 facilities, the level in which you find Hayden reminded me of Shrapnel City from Duke Nukem 3D, there was Dark Souls level design, there was prince of persia platforming. Nothing overrated about it. Just every element polished to 110 percent.

[@Deathmetal247]

@Stacey Bowtell As someone who has had also played every game in the series. I could not possibly disagree with you any more.

[@Tinfoil_Hardhat]

@Stacey Bowtell You haven't played the game have you Doom Boomer? It does have a story, but it's game play is also what Doom is. The reason jumping wasn't in doom originally is because of when it was released. If they could've done doom eternals movement in 1993, they absolutely would've. Quake proves that much.

[@blackhairedbandit]

@@Tinfoil_Hardhat the story is fucking shit and who tf actually enjoys platforming it’s not a Mario game this is doom not some kiddie shit where u collect toys and jump around like a dumb twat mediocre game

[@fuckso2342]

@@Tinfoil_Hardhat Yea people forget. Quake 1 which was made by the same team from Doom 1 and 2 with John Carmack and John Romero at the helm literally introduced 3D jump platforming, puzzles and even swimming to shooters. Doom would have had all of this already if they didn't have tech limits in 93.

[@PuddingWhispers]

Always respect the honesty in your reviews 🔥🔥

[@sunnyjim1355]

I expect honesty. Obviously you have lower standards.

[@petertelinde130]

That is one of the reasons I check out all his review video's, and ofcourse "the bell", DingDing ding ding. Mumble, Shite, Rubbish, Mumble,.. Ding!!

[@andyyiu3987]

I lost it at the "is now Laura f'ing croft" part, and the rant that followed. Hahaha

[@MegaCygnusX1]

I doubt 1993 Doomguy would be asking where his quad damage was, that came with Quake :p

[@Beghty27]

Everyone's is all like "you don't play Doom for the story" but what other game has you as a transdimmensional templar knight invading hell, ascending to Heaven and killing archangels. Like yea its camp but its also fucking awesome.

[@LateNightHalo]

I rather enjoyed the Platforming. It helped provide moments of “down time” and the momentum chaining was a lot of fun with. Some of my favorite parts was the lessons it learned from shooters like Quake.

[@charlieropesocks5793]

late night gamign

[@crowns9269]

@@charlieropesocks5793 what?

[@charlieropesocks5793]

@@crowns9269 late night gamign

[@crowns9269]

@@charlieropesocks5793 are u insane?

[@charlieropesocks5793]

@@crowns9269 crazy for coco puffs if you catch what i'm catchin

[@Avean]

I love the lack of ammo, i struggled at first but it forces you to consider what weapon to use in any situation and use it correctly. Like if you waste rocket ammo on simple mobs you will struggle that more later on. Definetely the FPS of a decade... amazing game.

[@MisterSavage777]

I'm halfway through my second playthrough on Nightmare. Absolute love the combat. For me, the whole reason I play a game is for the gameplay and this game has some of the most fun shooting ive ever played. For me, I like the platforming. Cause I'm on Nightmare mode right. So when I reach a point where I know I'll be platforming, I get a sigh of relief as I get a moment to relax a minute. Nightmare is No Joke. 10/10 from me.

[@luishayes43]

Absolutely agree. My first playthrough was on nightmare and it was a blast. I also found that the platforming was a welcome break a quite fun, especially with the collectibles

[@noteanotell937]

That's the reason we all love you Mac, honest reviews.

[@sunnyjim1355]

Speak for yourself, I think he's a bit of a dick actually. But he's honest in his reviews, and that's all I want. And that's not something I even especially respect, I EXPECT honesty, because I have standards and values. To praise someone for doing the right thing just goes to show that you don't expect it, which is just sad.

[@0sac]

@@sunnyjim1355 Just because it's the right thing, it doesnt mean most reviewers actually do it. I respect Mac for speaking his mind on a platform that many people don't. What's really sad is that you dont think other reviewers will lie in order to get more views or review copies.

[@sickasshandy3543]

There's a difference between honesty and subjectivity

[@hector00000100]

His honest opinion. But there's simply games that Mac doesn't understand (dark souls) and Doom. Mac never like Doom 2016 now he's complaining it's not like Doom 2016 which he didn't even like. Sounds like he's deliberately being a contrarian. Or it's simply another game he doesn't understand.

[@apeblackberry3641]

He is just a typical boomer. He is consistently confilcting himself in all of his videos. Today's video so far : Didn't get the key - His credibility is undoubted Gameplay is fantastic and never gets old - It's repetitive The game is too shallow , there is no depth - The game is too complex and overwhelming The story makes no sense - He don't even pay attention to it He love old school arcadey games - he bitching about the collectives Claiming the game shouldn't have soft parts - even the old games had soft parts I don't understand why people praise him so much. He is alright , i even watch him sometimes , but let's face it he is a boomer. In his book a crappy game with old school pixel graphics worth more than a fantastic game with modern graphics. He gets easily overwhelmed by game features like in Doom Eternal but at the same time he hates story driven games aswell like the Witcher 3. Just to mention two best games of the decades. He seeking something what completely extincted and only found in old arcade machines.

[@PTPalmer_NPC]

You can turn off the tutorials, no one seems to acknowledge that option though!

[@stickstu2866]

Who else been waiting all weekend for this to drop?!

[@Ramses4821]

Me me me

[@stickstu2866]

@@darthraider450 legit though I'm glad be mentioned some of the other reviews were so completely biased!

[@johnschreyer4186]

Been waiting for sure, trust mack more than the gushers.

[@bradleyadams2241]

Me i;ve been waiting all day to.

[@flannelbeard4621]

Yup

[@oppressedgamer5599]

I'm so happy with all the improvements they made, and especially how they've been listening to their fanbase and the concerns they had from Doom (2016). This is truly an improvement, and I wasn't sure devs could do that anymore!

[@نونيم-ي4ح]

@Glorious Bastard I legit couldn’t return to Doom 2016 after Eternal,Doom 2016 is phenomenal don’t get me wrong but Eternal it’s leagues ahead of it

[@sirweenielick8534]

I don’t really get the complaint against the collectibles. With how Eternal works, there’s not much reason to put resource secrets, besides a mega sphere. They usually scatter low tier demons on your way to an arena, so you can stock up. If it’s a toy, who really even cares? It’s not like the Fortress of DOOM is decorated all over with them, they’re shoved away in the extra content room. Also, it’s not like you have to collect them all, so you can defeat the Icon of Sin by making him step on all your toys and giving him unfathomable foot pain. As for the platforming, I actually enjoy it. They’re definitely not going to rack your brain and they can be done relatively quick. What did bother was the VERY few swimming sections in the game. Unlike the quick platforming sections or the occasional puzzle, it didn’t fit the flow. I dunno, it was awkward, and even after replaying the game, I still feel the same. The complaint about the upgrades, I don’t agree. You can put thought into it or you can just be like me and not really care. Another complaint I have is the secret encounters. Nothing is more frustrating than running out of ammo, then having to die to redo it again. To be fair, I had this happened to me on one level, but it was beyond fucking annoying. Also because secret encounters are timed, later encounters just devolve into switching between the super shotgun and ballista, which kinda kills it for me. Last thing I’ll address, the “weak guns.” Everything felt like it has a purpose and powerful in its own way, especially the BFG. If we wanna talk about weak weapons, let’s talk about DOOM 2016. Near the end of that game, you’re probably riding on the minigun, super shoegun, stun bomb gun, rocket launcher, and geese cannon because big damage. In Eternal I felt like I had to use everything, even up until the end.

[@TheRealAstro_]

I felt that the platforming was simple and well implemented enough to keep combat encounters interesting and varied. Do agree the upgrade system is a bit much and could probably use some generalizing or a centralized system

[@CommanderLongJohn]

I don't see how weapon mods, suit abilities, and runes are too much.. It's a very-very simple system.

[@hackmiyer4234]

If there was a button to skip or auto jump the platforming, i would hit it every time. It's not fun and it only makes you mad when u fall. That said, its not as bad as the star wars platforming. that shit was crazy annoying

[@TheRealAstro_]

Long Johnathan i think the problem is that it’s a bunch of separate systems with different ‘currencies’ and adding them all up to some sort of skill or progression system would be less confusing. Also people hate having to skip through a dozen menus to upgrade all their stuff.

[@TheRealAstro_]

Hack Miyer it really isn’t that bad. I think its a good alternative instead of running from boss arena to boss arena directly and you can do a little exploring which is nice

[@apeblackberry3641]

More is always better. Every single time. More means you have the option to skip it , or if you need it you have it. I played the game on Nightmare difficulty , and when i get "overwhelmed" by the upgrades i just simply does not payed attention to them. I beaten the game and i just realized that i have 40 ish unspent tokens for each type , and i did just fine. Now that in my mind i started my second playtrough with more knowledge. I think this is a great feature rather than a chore. Variety adds a ton for replayability.

[@sparky4878]

Picked this up on Saturday afternoon, turned out to be the day my local high street Game was closing to move to an out of town site, to help me through the evenings now we're pretty much in lock down in the UK. Mindless frenetic fun. Not got far into it yet so can't comment on the platforming elements mentioned here but I can live with that. I think. Never played an Assassin's Creed game or a new Tomb Raider since the 2013 reimagining. Just so long as it stops me going insane as the country grinds to a halt. Got to agree on the modding comments (though again not really got there yet), I don't like that in games. I'm a simple person. I just want a gun, and another gun, and another bigger gun. All the skill and modding trees confuse my tiny little mind.

[@GainingDespair]

I was honestly getting sick and tired of seeing the reviews for this game, I played Doom 2016 I enjoyed it but I swear I was getting spammed with these videos and it's kinda funny how out of all of them you always seem to have a different take on stuff and I almost always find myself agreeing with you on it lol.

[@jasonwood7340]

I liked Doom 2016 but I never got to finish it, darn game would glitch out with the steam controller and break all the buttons.

[@Haispawner]

Probably because it was _a good fucking game_ and people liked it after the dreaded multiplater beta.

[@anthonykay1580]

@Arick A4 because doom 2 is just an expansion with only 2 new weapons and a couple new enemies. Wow. "INNOVATION BEST FPS EVER BRING BACK THE CLASSICS HURR HURR"

[@anthonykay1580]

@Arick A4 Does that change how the game plays itself in any way? No.

[@anthonykay1580]

@Arick A4 nope, doom 2 is still the same old "shoot at it till' it dies" game with very little changed. Still, I never said its not fun. That doesn't apply to other so-called "doom clones".

[@valkir293]

I hope they make the game engine available to other developers in the future. The new ID Tech engine is phenomenal.

[@Alduizard]

8:04 You really have gotten old Mack! The progression is what enabled the flaming hook on super shotgun, and there are a few of these other mods and upgrades that add up and are necessary at highest difficulties, and are not just necessary but also a lot of fun to use. This doom is much tighter and requires more out of you than the 2016 one. I wouldn't say its a straight up best shooter of all time, but its definitely one of the best.

[@blackhairedbandit]

Lmao one of the best no it isn’t that’s just ur opinion and the story is crap the multiplayer is atrocious one of the best man go play a real shooter bo1

[@TheHelix123]

@@blackhairedbandit bo1 black ops? Srsly. Lol

[@BishopHavel]

Acting like og Doomguy wouldn't be happy with toys when the man had a pet rabbit named Daisy.

[@jpteknoman]

yeah, as an old gamer myself i know the pain. when we played quake 3 or unreal tournament back in the day, we played for the fun of playing. today people lose interest if there is nothing to unlock. they don't have fun by playing, they have fun by grinding the next thing in the list and i blame WoW for this

[@confirmmyhl3942]

I'm glad there's reviews like this that go in detail about the good AND the bad so I know what i'm getting into. It's getting to the point where I don't even bother watching day 1 reviewers because its all the same. Cheers to you for keeping up the good work Mack!

[@HiGhBaLL_GG]

This might be my favorite WAB my guy's done! hahaha That rant about the collectibles had me dying Mack! Good shit as always and thank you for your honesty and efforts!

[@MrSiloterio]

Gamers: Reviews are subjective to each person. Also gamers: Reviewers are not honest because I don't agree with them.

[@necrosteel5013]

Matthew's Couch also gamers: reviewers are honest if calling everyone else stupid for praising it,TBH the entire thing has descended to a thorough shitshow.

[@cortezbaldur413]

Matthew's Couch do u not know the context to Hwy he said what he said? gamers lately give amazing reviews to games that by older game standards are just very ok. look at how much errand-running or even lifeless feeling environments or shallow stories games have nowadays its really shocking so many people don't notice this. I'm not old an old fart either. how much more bare-bones and lifeless can games get before people can no longer praise it. just seems people will praise anything now cause really good games don't come around as much. no hate just saying seems like people enjoy eating the hype a lot. also I do think doom eternal is a solid game just nowhere near groundbreaking.

[@quiettimegaming3642]

Lol, I actually thought the platforming was quite nice. Here’s the thing. I LOVED this game, but I do agree with you when you talk about your brain going onto autopilot, and while I also thought the platforming was just *A LITTLE* out of place in Doom, I felt it was done well enough that it wasn’t bothersome, and it was a nice change of pace and a good way to engage you and take your mind off of auto-pilot. I personally think this game is absolutely awesome in MOST regards. And IMO, it’s easily one of the best FPS of this generation, and deserves recognition... I also think that most content creators are over-hyping this game. But that’s what I expect. 99% of content creators tailor their reviews to whatever the most prevalent narrative is, and the COMPLETELY lose their ability to be constructively critical, in an effort to tell people what they want to hear. Just sayin’

[@gogista]

"it’s easily one of the best FPS of this generation, and deserves recognition" "most content creators are over-hyping this game"

[@quiettimegaming3642]

Rooster My point was that a game can be great, but quite often people get so wrapped up in the hype and excitement of a highly anticipated game that they lose their ability to be constructively critical. I think the campaign is elite, and the Battlemode is fine/good. But it’s not anything all that special if I’m being honest.

[@0sac]

Doom 1: *has movement mechanics that allow the player to pull off risky parkour* Doom 2: *same as doom 1 but has many more gimmick platform levels* Doom 2016: *has double jump, entire parkour sections and was praised for its high mobility* Doom Eternal: "WTF why is there platforming, doom has never had platforming in it!!"

[@KobraSnake0813]

Very true. Mack's a bit off on this one.. but reviews are a bit opinionated so I'll let it slide lol

[@BlobRob787]

The platforming is driving me nuts. It breaks up the flow of the game and it isn't needed. I have never been good at platform games. It almost makes me not want to play the game.

[@Dregomz02]

Platformers would be fine if they were optional

[@thegamingda7404]

Yeah I have same problem

[@Khan1670]

It's ok in small doses, but yes I don't like that huge portions of the game are dependent on it. I'm now stuck at a very frustrating part that requires multiple frakking jumps and dashes. I've taken a break from the game because it's made me so mad.

[@sunnyjim1355]

Funny you sat that - I talked to someone recently who was hyped for the game and I mentioned the platforming. He said 'Ah, it'll be fine, it'll add variety to the gameplay'. A'ight. smh

[@PHeMoX]

It literally made me stop playing. I don't want to do platforming in a shooter and _definitely_ don't want it in my DOOM experience. It is the least DOOM-like game they could have made from this.

[@Cimlite]

I actually enjoy the fact that this game feels like a proper _video game._ That's not to say that I don't love immersive games, but not _every_ title has to be one. This isn't trying to be something like Prey or Bioshock, it simply exists test your skills and deliver some arcady demon shredding.

[@bmbm1]

I just don't understand the need to add a billion new things to the game instead of just improving what was already a great game.. It just seems like a clusterfuck..

[@Maverick5588]

Yep

[@metallicafan416]

Git good

[@bmbm1]

@@metallicafan416 stupid comment and it's not the point of difficulty here

[@نونيم-ي4ح]

Only matter of opinions I personally hate it when developers play it too safe with sequels,sequels are not always meant to only improve on what already exists more of the same is not always good,take dark souls 3 for example it’s waaaay more polished than dark souls 1 but sadly it felt lackluster mainly because it does not bring anything new,dark souls 1 is a spiritual successor to demon souls and a very flawed game but at the same time it’s very ambitious one and as an experience it felt incredibly epic,unforgettable and went above and beyond with its main ideas.Doom Eternal imo improves upon its predecessor in many ways and at the same time it’s very ambitious that some people didn’t hated some of the design choices which I can understand

[@bmbm1]

@@نونيم-ي4ح I agree with you it just seems like they added too much stuff at one time

[@marcuskahn3783]

Doom modder Sgt Mark IV raised a lot of good points about how DE didn't jive with the original id game premise.

[@katytis2012]

Ah. Love brutal Doom! LOVE IT.

[@cjdelmonte6036]

People these days get spoiled by what should be industry standard. A series of disappointing games will do that. Doom is great fun but it should be the average for how far we've came technologically looking back.

[@HCUhardcoreUnited]

On point. It's a shame how games of this quality used to be the norm, once apone a time. Now we get shit like Ghost Recon Breakpoint.

[@RandomUser-fl3zo]

Agreed. Doom 2 was my first pc game so its not like am lacking in nostalgia department but even doom 2016 I couldn’t handle past a few hours. It was cool back in the day but nowadays its too mindless and repetitive. It’s a good game but the praise its got as if its the best FPS is very undeserved.

[@kylesoler4139]

well, its a new game that's decent being released during a global pandemic. So people are gonna say it's the best thing since sliced bread.

[@ChocolatChef]

I feel like DOOM 2016 was a tight experience focused on a few core gameplay aspects so you could just blast away happily and not think too much. This new one is great but I feel like I'm trying to decide what to do 80% of the time in a battle when I should be enjoying the gameplay, maybe I should play it on a lower difficulty but i still feel like they are trying to include too many little gameplay features, just keep it tight you know ;)

[@rossedwardmiller]

Doom ‘16 had a light amount of platforming, progression, and collectibles. They all worked in that game. Looks like too much of a good thing in this one. 😔

[@Maverick5588]

Yep

[@metallicafan416]

Couldn't disagree more

[@SkunkfapGaming]

each to their own of course but i found the small amount of platforming in doom 2016 fucking painful (mainly argent tower) but i really enjoy it in eternal. its something fun to do inbetween combat and gives new creative and semi skill based ways to access secrets. I really hate the whole it doesnt fit in the environment or it doesn't make sense arguement. the weapon pickups are bright green, float and spin around, this game doesnt take itself 100% seriously (actually some of the bars even make sense like the broken yellow pipes in the super gore nest). I mean in cultist base theres a section where you reveal some demons hidden inside pillars locked with chains, a lot of things in the game dont make sense when you think about it seriously. some areas i will admit however were annoying, mainly urdak and thoes booster portals.

[@SkunkfapGaming]

@TheBuragi didn't even think about the original doom lol but yea, secret rooms, levels like tricks and traps and barrels o fun, classic 90s game design.

[@codyvandal2860]

@TheBuragi This. I loved 2016 Doom as much as the next guy but like the whole *DARK* and GRITTYYY obsession always seemed weird to me. The series was designed to be tongue and cheek and arcade-y from it's inception. Doom 2016 kinda took Doom 3 elements and synthesized it in a modern way. I feel Eternal really has better over gameplay and the environments aren't as suffocating.

[@Chrisbajs]

I've played Doom since 1993, and now Doomguy has turned into Super Mario. Boing boing boing! Fuck me. Doom 2016 is so superior.

[@dansbigfanguitarist]

Also, the platforming was a great addition imo because it gives you a break from the intense arenas without being unnecessarily boring or forcing you to stop to breathe, because the combat is so intense

[@OrcCorp]

Tomb Slayer indeed 🤘🏻😂

[@zubiecup]

There’s actually not a lack of ammo in this game (although, that was my initial assumption and complaint). It just wants you to use the chainsaw on weaker enemies to get more.

[@Ramses4821]

144 FPS on ultra nightmare settings is sooooo sweet. It’s like how Mack feels playing the perfect game

[@Ramses4821]

DiLLy DaLLy bro get an Aoc 1080 144 hz monitor for 169 on amazon or go woth the 27 inch 1440p for 219

[@kevinwilson455]

@@Scallywag.77 I've never been beyond 60 either, actually still don't mind 30fps for certain games (on console).

[@28082989]

@@kevinwilson455 It's not a question of _if you mind or not_ it's more about if you experience it, you will understand why everyone that did experience, praise higher hertz so much over resolution.

[@kevinwilson455]

@@28082989 It really depends on the game. If you're playing a fast-paced game that requires a higher response output...... there is no world in which higher FPS will not benefit you, especially using a keyboard and mouse with high sensitivity. I am playing KIngdom Come: Deliverance on PS4 right now and it's a stable 30fps...... does not effect my enjoyment one bit as turning speeds and camera movement are limited any way.

[@ahumbledude757]

can a gtx 1080 do that ?

[@LemurDrengene]

I LOVED Doom 2016! The gameplay, the cinematics, the snapmap! Everything! I love how you was just thrown into the game. I was actually REALLY disapointed, when i noticed that everytime i was about to meet a new monster, i would get a tutorial as of how they act and how they should be defeated? WHAT?! Exploration just got washed down the drain. There is now, nothing scary nor excting about meeting a new monster, cause they all got a safe tutorial mode.. WHAT IS THAT?! And as i played i really got annoyed with the platforming as well, i must admit! Wauw.. I wanted to love this game, and i think i still do. But the platforming and the intrusivce tutorials that ruins all shocks/imersion whatever.. And no snapmap.. Im happy and disappointed at the same time. I think its because i know how good all the other dooms are, including 2016. But this seems to have missed the mark about a few things, which is kind of sad. I wil still enjoy every moment of this game, its f*cking awesome! I love it! But it's just not as amazing as it could have been, because these stupid things have been thrown into it. I could have accepted the platformer aspect, but the tutorials that pops up a training area, every fucking time you get a new skill or meet a new enemy.. That kills every bit of immersion.. Wauw.. I dont know how that got through! Overall a great game! If I would give 2016 9/10, this is a 8 or 7.5/10.

[@ber_]

You can disable tutorials

[@warcitizen1348]

@@ber_ It should have been disabled from the get go. I agree with LemurDrengene. It completely takes away the surprise and suspense of how to fight a new enemy when the game tells you right off the bat.

[@LemurDrengene]

Ananas Abrikos and that’s good. But how will I find out that burning people and the shooting them gives armor? Let me rephrase. Having a tutorial in itself is not a bad thing. It’s the idea of getting pulled out of the map, into a training area that really ruins it :/ I like the tutorials for the tools/weapons. But please don’t show the monsters before I encounter them :/ I think they should have made the tutorials in another way.

[@warcitizen1348]

@@LemurDrengene That makes sense I agree.

[@Rearendoftrain]

Hard disagree with most of your negative points, progression systems at this point are more or less expected, the platforming breaks up the combat sequences and is handled quite well, collectibles are there to make your secrets.. well worth finding if you're a collector, otherwise just don't go for them. At the end of the day Doom Eternal is a video game ass video game and is unapologetic about it. In a world so full of "Realistic" and "Cinematic" shooters its a breath of fresh air. And another note on the progression, it's more or less the same as Doom2016 once you break it down, each weapon has 2 mods with upgrades.. and your armor has 3 primary stats. That's basically it.

[@mrtnptrs]

Fully agree with you; I also was surprised when he talked about too many secrets and too much progression.... I now fully understand why this channel didn't get a review-copy and has much lower viewer-count nowadays haha. Also the large amount of swearing just started to work on my nerves....

[@theenderstar]

Honestly i really liked the platforming and how you can learn to use the meathook or other stuff to do some of it faster. The collectibles are really nice tbh, you can see the demon's 3d models and it's just satisfying to see the shelf slowly filling up

[@AlexPinna531]

same i like the platforming, its good training for the movement systems and is a good break between combat, although combat is the best part of eternal, it needs breaks inbetween yknow

[@EJGarza]

You make laugh so hard everytime you keep using the clown horn during your rant

[@KevTheGalaxybender]

the main problem with this game is it restricts your freedom. The combat mechanic or loop forces you to play it one way and only that way.

[@apeblackberry3641]

That's a good thing. It was sad to see how many """"pro players"""" cheesed trough Doom 2016 with only using the Super Shotgun and the Gauss Cannon. It was sickening. Btw every single good game in the universe forces you to play by rules.

[@KevTheGalaxybender]

@@apeblackberry3641 restricting freedom is a good thing?

[@cypherseph1536]

I don't see how this game restricts your freedom, every weapon is literally viable

[@TheDeeGeeNL]

Secret Area! ... let's mark it with a GIANT QUESTIONMARK. The handholding in modern games is so fucking shite.

[@WorthABuyreviews]

And then mark it on your map too

[@Ilsyde]

Being forced into melee range to replenish ammo for my weapons ruins the shooting element and the game flow. I want to blast enemies from a distance with ranged weapons and not constantly run up to them to extract some ammo.

[@JohnCrichton]

That's the worst thing about this game

[@lwaves]

@Ilsy de Yep, the excessive weapon mods, the platforming and this are why I'm not getting it. It's forcing play a certain way, not how you want to play it. I'm sure many will enjoy it but this is not Doom to me.

[@DarkFire515]

@@lwaves Agree 100%. DE isn't a bad game per se but all the new mechanics feel restrictive rather than offering the player freedom. Doom 2016 was awesome, one of my favourite games ever, but this... I just can't seem to enjoy it. It doesn't really feel like a doom game any more.

[@TearThatRedFlagDown]

Well tbh with games like these I tend to prefer to play really aggressive and close range so to me it literally makes no difference. Can't blast enemies from long range with a shotgun.

[@TearThatRedFlagDown]

@@lwaves "Excessive weapon mods" then Doom 2016 also has excessive weapon mods, because each weapon has 2 mods just like in Doom 2016 and just like Doom 2016 you can buy upgrades through weapon points. The only things that really got added are some upgrades for your grenade launcher and flamethrower because those are new and the armour upgrades are a bit different, but ultimately very close to the way they were in Doom 2016. Which weapons you use or how you use them is still completely up to you, the biggest noticeable difference is that ammo appears more scarce than in Doom Eternal so you can't run through the game with shotgun and gauss only, you have to use your entire arsenal and you will be swapping weapons a lot, the other difference is that there are like 3 or for 4 enemies who are weak to certain weapons/mods so you might wanna save some ammo to deal with them during certain fights.

[@AdonaiBGaming]

Bought this one for you Mack! My wife and I are big fans. Supporting you through GMG

[@VikingLord2000]

The parkour in my eyes was to refine my movement abilities to use in the arenas. Also if there was not modding I feel like that people would complain about how shallow game was.

[@cortezbaldur413]

Enoch Horning shooters are shallow though and if u look back to older times shooters were never complex or sophisticated at all even tactical ones. shooters are always shallow its just this new trend where every game has to have guns with stats and upgrades that now if u don't do that the game is called shallow when in truth its just not following the trend. I'm perfectly fine with a shooter not having any progression via upgrades or mods and simply getting better guns as I go along. I'm kinda tired of every game having upgrades cause it's so overdone now. no hate just saying my piece have a good day or night.

[@VikingLord2000]

@@cortezbaldur413 I understand, I wasn't really calling Doom complex, but I enjoyed it a lot none the less. For the progression system bit. I really enjoy games with or without an upgrades, but I can see when it gets tiring if they implement it just to increase game length. That's why I hated the way Rage 2 did it... It just made it so annoying to progress.

[@TerraWare]

I actually don't mind the platforming, I love me a good 3D platformer here and there but I understand your gripe with it considering the franchise the platforming takes place in. I can picture it bright as day, the developers have called in a meeting to brainstorm ideas and the purpose of the meeting is to come up with new ideas for Doom Eternal and to add something new to Doom that hasn't been done before and someone or multiple people suggest platforming. Lol.

[@KobraSnake0813]

I mean. . Platforming was in Doom 2016. You had double jumping and ledges to climb on. Some levels were mostly parkour in Doom 2016 like when you climb the tower after getting the double jump boots for the first time. Glorykills for health and chainsaw for ammo were both in 2016 as well... DE is definitely an improvement. Dolls were also a collectable in Doom 2016.

[@fuckso2342]

The reason they added platforming is because the game has insane movement. Its similar to Titanfall 2. It makes complete gameplay sense to add platforming and its also a good way train the player at air control and dashing for arena fights while also being used for downtime.

[@dlakodlak]

For some stupid reason, somebody thought it's a good idea to design systems which make is very easily possible for you to end up with an enemy in the room and no way to fight it. Doom 2016 was simpler, more cohesive, and better.

[@metallicafan416]

Use your brain

[@fuckso2342]

>For some stupid reason, somebody thought it's a good idea to design systems which make is very easily possible for you to end up with an enemy in the room and no way to fight it. Wtf are you smoking lol

[@billybobjocrabb7095]

You’re so underrated Mack

[@Icem4n84]

My first thought when I played this was the difference in intensity and why are there so many platforming sections in my Doom game?..

[@Icem4n84]

@Glorious Bastard Definitely not. I preferred Doom 2016. Eternal is an enjoyable game but it isn't a 9 out of 10.

[@roadogsc]

@Glorious Bastard Yeah, because enjoying something that some people might not is fanboying and not a difference of opinions.

[@roadogsc]

@Glorious Bastard the main thing (this is mainly about the super steve guy) is that he is flat out saying that there shouldn't be platforming it doom, it is those flat statements that I take issue with because it is said as a fact insted of an opinion. My problem with you is that some people genuinely enjoy every aspect of the game, and they are just fanboys to you (which is an insult) you are insulting people because they enjoy something that you may not.

[@cortezbaldur413]

@@roadogsc same could be said about doom 3 but even me as a doom 3 lover know that doom 3 was not a proper doom game. also platforming was always kind of disliked in doom games (same goes for lava and or rad running) even the super old ones. tho the platforming in those was very basic but still disliked. i do feel the same that the platforming was far too commonplace in doom eternal. if u are too take it as an insult then that's on u, not the person making the comment. how easily triggered u are is always ur own responsibility. putting it on others is trying to be controlling.

[@purebaldness]

The lack of jumping in Doom '93 wasn't a design choice btw

[@jamief123]

Just a tip for anyone experiencing performance issues like I was. I was wondering why my game seemed to run at almost half the performance that people with similar setups were getting on youtube. The problem was I had the AMD Radeon software performance overlay on in my game. I had it on just to see what fps I was getting in game. When I had it on my fps dropped by 20-30 fps. Just use the in-game fps counter. No idea why it causes such a huge performance drop. Even if I record gameplay I only get a drop of about 3fps.

[@Emcfree2084]

Waited weeks for an honest review of this and what a surprise it was WAB who finally came through. Thank you. You echoed many of my thoughts mainly that it's a fantastic game technically but let down by being far too arcadey.

[@shablat54364]

didn't mention the awesome soundtrack once

[@5FingerBallad]

"Too much progression" but "shallow as a puddle" as well? Thought I'd point that out.

[@Ironwizard42]

progression does not equal depth

[@dmc2554]

@Halfrican Jones Your comment is retarded. Thought I'd point that out.

[@apeblackberry3641]

@@Ironwizard42 it fucking is. Especially in this game. Unlike a Cod or any modern shooter your weapon modifications are having a lot more depth than changing the colour and the shape of your scope reticle.

[@dansbigfanguitarist]

The point of adding the archvile, buff totem and other, DIFFERENT enemies isn’t to make every arena feel repetitive, but the opposite. It’s the uniqueness of the enemy combinations in each arena that makes your change in strategy more engaging and fun and unique. It’s one of this games bigger strengths

[@observer4916]

the exact problem i had with Doom 2016 was that it was so god damn repetitive. i could only play it in chunks of 30-40 minutes before i got bored

[@PHeMoX]

Yeah it is actually boring after the first two hours or so. At that point you've become used to the frantic nature, but in reality you've been doing the same shit for two hours and will do so for the entirety of the game. I think this is actually _why_ the platforming was added to DOOM Eternal, but is was a disastrous move. If you found DOOM 2016 repetitive, DOOM Eternal isn't going to be much different there.

[@anthonymendez5768]

I had the same issue with that game as well. I couldn't beat it because it was so boring. Eternal however is a different story, it's actually fun! I had an absolute blast with Eternal and actually managed to beat it unlike the 2016 game.

[@andyd6338]

Wasn't the 1993 Doom the same thing over and over too?

[@JeremyComans]

@@andyd6338 The big difference is that Doom '93 was part of a completely fresh genre, and also the game is only 4-5 hours long.

[@Windupmykilt]

@@anthonymendez5768 ?? Doom 2016 is plenty of fun. Both subjectively and objectively. However, if you didn't like the game personally. That's fine, but to say it was boring and Eternal is 'actually' fun has no basis in fact or evidence, its a personal opinion and nothing more.

[@MacJulian88]

I really liked the platforming for the most part. I hope they keep it in for the next game. Need the pistol back and for the Marauder to be nerfed though.

[@Rusted_]

I definitely prefer the direction doom 2016 was taking over this

[@dragenfire68]

Eh the shoot at it until it dies kinda got old by the end. Doom eternal makes me think about how I fight.

[@bradleyspinks7922]

Na mate, this makes people use other weapons. People only used to use the super shotgun.

[@BlatentlyFakeName]

Brutal Doom is just better :P

[@Rusted_]

Bradley Spinks meant more on the tone of the 2016 version rather than the gameplay

[@carlgray6764]

@@BlatentlyFakeName agreed ... brutal doom 64 even more so

[@toolshedvideo]

I saw the platforming earlier, and rolled my eyes. Thanks for being one of the few who is willing to call out BS

[@GTDDR]

This has to be the most annoying review so far of Doom Eternal. Seriously man, from min 5:30 you started to sound like a 12 year old child complaining about everything. “It’s repetitive” “the cutscenes” “the story” ... First of all every shooter is “repetitive” and even so every Doom is repetitive if you look that way. The platforming has always been there in the original but at that time the engine wouldn’t allow to do more than just run fast between gaps and discovering secret areas. “Some level design are boring” I mean, what game did you play? You didn’t even talk about the excellent sound effects the game has, the music that is now much more balance between heavy and ambient. The way I see it, the game improved in every possible way. It’s the perfect balance for newcomers to the franchise and old fans. The story while you can skip it totally, it’s there and very well developed. I actually enjoyed it a lot. The collectibles are not just toys you find, you can get different songs from the original doom, doom 3, quake. You can also find diskettes which contains the original cheat codes from doom 1 and use them in game. While the upgrades for the suit and weapons are just amazing, really helps to make you feel you are progressing and not just shooting and shooting nonsense, and when you get everything upgraded at maximum, you feel like an unstoppable force. That’s what is Doom all about!.So I’m sorry man but you where really nitpicking almost the entire video.

[@L4Disillusion]

Not really he have the game shit where it deserved it and praise too. Just because he's not sucking Hugo Martin's meat doesn't make it a bad review. Everyone hasmplaintscomplaints I'm sure a game you hate like fortnite or some shit could send you into a rant. Some people just bitch a lot. Lol

[@pesapesto3471]

>complains that he sounds like a 12 year old complaining >proceeds to complain like a 12 year old bravo lmao

[@justinsn956]

Mack you're funny as fuck. "WTF's this??! WTF is this?? Where's me health pack? ... You've got a little toy marauder..." ROFL!!

[@clarencegutsy7309]

It's a pretty good FPS in 2020, but it's not a good Doom game. As someone that played through the original games in the '90s I feel like so much of this game's whole philosophy is too lopsided on the "you will feel amazing." Doom has always been an aggressive FPS and that's why I still love it to this day, but a lot of the high from the game came from you as the player overcoming the odds stacked against you through your own skill and knowledge. The more you played, the better you became, the more familiar the maps were, you'd memorize which power-ups were where and eventually you'd make things look easy and second nature. The maps are really bad, though. Way too linear, almost everything comes down to throwing a bunch of shit at you in a room and the platforming sections added nothing. There's no intelligent enemy placements or devious ambushes (like the number of fake walls in a level like the Spirit World in Doom 2) and it almost always gets reduced to this gauntlet style of play where you eliminate everything and then you advance to the next section and repeat. I feel nothing for glory kills. The whole implementation of them was out of place even in 2016, but this game rides these canned animations so hard as a main component for gameplay it eventually made fighting hordes of hellspawn tedious. So much of this game comes down to managing resources. Light an enemy up for armor, chainsaw them for confetti ammo, punch them and gut them for health. The whole mechanic is not only forced but it comes off as lazy, as though the developers couldn't be bothered to place pick-ups around at strategic points in a map and instead made it so zombies or imps shamble around at all times to be mobile pinatas. Calling this a masterpiece of FPS design though... yeah, no. As I said, fun FPS game, poor Doom game, and definitely not in any discussion for being considered a masterpiece. I doubt I'll ever come back to this game, it lacks the staying power the actual classics had and is pretty much a gore filled rollercoaster ride through Hell. You'll play it, you'll enjoy it, you'll forget about it within a month. Sad that Doom has become just another flavor of the month hype game, but that's the modern era I guess.

[@clarencegutsy7309]

@@skyvenom9123 Yes, I played the original Doom games. How gross. Damn boomers. You got me.

[@clarencegutsy7309]

@@skyvenom9123 It's not about moving on, but about how Doom doesn't feel like Doom anymore.

[@clarencegutsy7309]

@@skyvenom9123 I don't see how you can honestly feel the level design is more brilliant than ever if you've also played the original games. It's so on rails and almost always leads to the same situation in which you fight demons in a big room that locks you into it until they all die. All this game really has in common with Doom is the name and tons of gore. Doom was never about all this fluff. Glory kills, twenty modification systems, lore exposition, collecting all this goofy shit, enemy weakpoints, saying it still adheres to the "Doom formula" is just flat out wrong. If they were to change the classic enemies and a few weapon names I'd have no idea this was supposed to be Doom. Doom isn't a game that needs change, that's the problem. All it needs is satisfying gameplay, great level and enemy placement design, secrets that actually help you, and a dose of good old atmosphere through visual and sound. There's a reason why Doom/Doom 2 have enjoyed over 25 years of having a legacy that continues having people add on to it. I don't see Doom Eternal ever hoping to match that and it's for good reason.

[@ber_]

Upgrade progression is basically the same as doom 2016. Runes lost upgrades and trials but you've got passive on crystals upgrades (which is essentially argent cells). Weapons mods and upgrades are literally the same. Suit upgrades too. But at least half of that shit should be applied by default (like faster weapon swap and lower blink cd etc.) and exists only to create an illusion of progression.

[@Pastryarchy]

Games just can't adhere to their existing IP anymore. Have to jam it with every other game mehhanic out there before the board approves.

[@necrosteel5013]

Matthew Challacombe the doom weapons in vanilla a balanced to a tee.the main reason I love it is that the megawads (custom maps) and some sound mods is all that you need to have an enjoyable experience (I went so far as to make a weapon skin mod to give it extra flare.been playing custon megawads for half a decade and still with OG doom and doom 2.

[@PeterSellers22]

Bingo

[@necrosteel5013]

Matthew Challacombe the fps genre only really became great in 1997 with quake and the build engine trilogy of duke nukem,shadow warrior and blood.I don't need mods to play those that's for sure.all doom needs is a kick in the right direction, it it becomes great.something I can't say for most other games.

[@necrosteel5013]

Matthew Challacombe bullshit,you just can't adapt to hitscanners well.also your claim that quake had just 5 good levels is subjective at beast and horseshit at worst.I played quake a number of times and enjoyed the hell out of it each time.there is nothing wrong with hitscanners, especially since most attacks of that type can easily be avoided with other enemies,cover and a swift response.

[@necrosteel5013]

Matthew Challacombe I agree.though in some cases hitscanners do work (doom 2 chaingunners,as annoying as they are act as a pressure unit to deal with swiftly. Hitscanners have a justified role in an old school fps but they must not be too Strong.

[@Tk-sh3bf]

Finally some honesty in reviews. Mack i know this sounds weird right but developers when looking at reviews tend to look at reviews of people who are the most critical or small in size as it gives a honest view so you never know they might see this.

[@Vanska0]

Finally a reasonable review of this game! The hype for this game was insane and i must say i was a little dissapointed about it when i finished it. It does get repetitive, the platforming made me groan every single time and while the story was okay-ish, you can tell the effort went into something else. Hope they dial things back a little in the next installment and have more focus on the good stuff.

[@hyperspeed_心猿]

It's funny how publisher's thinking is they fear your reviews, so they don't give you a free advanced copy. So they think it's a good idea to make you have to go out and buy the game and then rush through to get your review impressions. Genius bunch, those publishers. Really upping their odds at a good review. Of course, make a good game, get a good review since Worth A Buy is all about honesty. Anyway, another great review.

[@ritchski1]

This game was amazing in my opinion , I guess for some it just hits the Mark. I appreciated all of it, even the platforming. I’m pretty certain no game had made me feel like a bad ass like this one, I took so much stress out on those demons, just sliced through them surviving then refusing to die then surging by the seat of my pants. There’s no game like it, before this I wasn’t great at FPS games but this game taught me, I’m shocked I managed to finish it on ultra violence.

[@cyborgsmurf6446]

Health-pickup/ammo-pickup gives meaning to having secrets scattered around the map, also maybe a weapon, like in Doom II where you can get rocket launcher on the first level. The collectibles should all say 'ammo was here'.

[@antilysisgaming5646]

I put this game down after like 2 hours of playing. The platforming was so mind numbingly boring. I would rather enjoy a 2D side scroller than play the platforming in this game.

[@AnjewTate]

I hope nobody ever gives Mack free game keys. He’s a gem that needs to be kept honest and away from temptation. Never change Mack, your opinion truly matters in a world of fake and “hype” reviews.

[@gwydionlashlee-walton7892]

"Doomraider." Lol

[@Maverick5588]

Loool

[@KevBoy3D]

That’s even more funny considering the Tomb Raider games are less and less about platforming and then Doom’s like “Fine I’ll do it then”

[@gwydionlashlee-walton7892]

@@KevBoy3D Waiting for the quadruple jump next.

[@danp6918]

You are still the best and most honest game reviewer I know. Also the most hilarious. KEEP IT UP!

[@fordprefect80]

Another highly entertaining review. I'm still only 3 hours into Doom 2016 so I might wait 3 years and grab this one when its on a 80 per cent off sale. Back to Rimworld for me. Thanks Mac.

[@donpepe8440]

You can pirate it and thanks to dumbass bedestha you can even play online

[@generalgrudge]

I personally didn't mind the platforming at all except for having to push a button to sick to a wall- that said i started off on the hardest difficulty and had to dial it back- the bit about getting older and slower is very true!

[@GamingHighrise]

Man I disagree with just about every negative. Without collectibles and the creative/satisfying platform ig, the game would have been even more repetitive to you. You would have just moved from action sequence to action sequence. I love this game. If you love a challenge, Nightmare mode adds tons of variety and difficulty that has kept me latched to it. 0 crashes for me so far as well.

[@EazyDuz18]

Looks the same as the 2016 game which was WAB for me. Controversial opinion but I still consider Doom 3 to be the best one. Decent story and more horror elements, even though I know thats not what the first 2 Dooms were about. Ill be picking this up for my Corona self quarantine. Mack how many hours is the story mode?

[@ScrubCrusher49]

Love your honest reviews, keep it up mackyy~!

[@IRMentat]

Thanks Mack, I have been waiting for this review. The preview and other pundit footage was giving me warning signs, your gameplay description has cemented it. I’m waiting for a deep sale on this one. I want to rip and tear, not hop, skip and press x to spawn resources.

[@Bajso84]

What is the best fps, Mack?

[@mrcenturies1820]

In my opinion, I like the idea of the funko pop toys because if every secret was armour and upgrades, it would eventually get stale. Imagine you playing on say Ultra-Violence or Nightmare and you go through a difficult parkour section (I also understand your opinion on that, I'm indifferent because its not an instant kill anymore) and all you get is like 50 points of armour and a bit of health or something of the like, that gets shredded in less than 5 seconds. Its very much a step up to the different coloured doom guy figurines. I haven't played it yet (please don't crucify me I will trust me) so if you want to take everything I say with a pinch of salt, go ahead, but it is a nice bit of variety that you can also get toys of the monsters or a soundtrack vinyl. Where I think its a step down is when you could get some weapons early by doing an extremely (sometimes, say the gauss cannon) hidden secret to find another weapon. The progression was a bit more dynamic in 2016 but here it seems a bit more forced. But as I said that's just my opinion, I love your vids, keep up the honesty.

[@mrcenturies1820]

Side note: I believe the reason they decided not to put ammo, health and armour in secrets was to put more focus on on-the-fly management.

[@rofalmatt]

seems more like a puzzle game than an fps with all the thing you gotta remember to get ammo and health

[@eyquemesque]

not really, you get used to it and it actually makes it a bit less repetitive !

[@shabushabu5319]

You're probably just dumb tbh

[@SerBallister]

I think it makes combat more interesting, you need to keep a picture in your head of where the fodder is and not be tempted to waste them all too early in the encounter. You do get more efficient at killing with practice and that has an effect on how much ammo you spend. Barrel respawning + Barrel ammo is useful in some arenas.

[@CragScrambler]

Dont worry Mac, were all 5 days behind Italy in the CoronaVirus health death plague, soo punt for punt....we still get to watch you for a week......maybe. Subbed!

[@thegoodsenator2855]

Haven’t even watched it yet, just want to say thank you so much. I love the work you do and the honest reviews you give. I know it will not be a paid for review like most reviewers out there.

[@TropicalPriest]

It's pretty funny that this review is really positive, and the comments are like, "Good job trashing it, Mack! This game looks awful." Did you even watch the review lmao? I agree btw, combat is stellar, platforming sucks. I like some of the puzzles though, reminds me of Doom 64 which is an underrated entry for sure.

[@Nydrin]

Not to mention, people forget he didn't give Doom 2016 a good review. People here are weird man.

[@nousernameyet1310]

You get the same animations because you look at the same limb on the demon.

[@DisemboweII]

"Best look at this zombie's feet so I can do a unique pre-canned animation instead of the same one I've seen 500 times already"

[@mistahstyle]

Man you are still being honest for years and that's impressive, hands down the only critic I have actual joy listening to, even when you review a game that i dissagree (sometimes highly) with your review I am going like: "Shit I am still gonna give a like for this, such honesty".