Doom Eternal Review - Best FPS ever?

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[@markbernard8312]

only 8 more days until M&B Bannerlord drops :)

[@benjaminburns4412]

Fap

[@gtabro1337]

Oh shit it’s almost here Incomoletely forgot about that beta or whatever it is :o

[@Charok1]

but only early access, the full release is a year from now. so still be disappointed

[@tuff-knorf4561]

Let’s see if they added poles for us to swing from in Bannerlord as well..

[@TheRixtah1]

I was beginning to doubt I would see the day

[@keg3212]

Can't say I agree, I'm absolutely loving it, including the platforming. I haven't seen platforming done this well in an FPS ever, it's a nice break from the frantic shooting. But otherwise, good review.

[@BorNeoProg]

@Stacey Bowtell as someone who has played the original doom multiple times, quake and the build engine games. I can safely say that all the elements are integrated perfectly well. Doom 2 had a lot of platforming which were limited by the technology of its time. I'm glad Doom Eternal is its own thing, while paying tribute to so so many games and genres. There were quake arenas, there were Doom 3 facilities, the level in which you find Hayden reminded me of Shrapnel City from Duke Nukem 3D, there was Dark Souls level design, there was prince of persia platforming. Nothing overrated about it. Just every element polished to 110 percent.

[@Deathmetal247]

@Stacey Bowtell As someone who has had also played every game in the series. I could not possibly disagree with you any more.

[@Tinfoil_Hardhat]

@Stacey Bowtell You haven't played the game have you Doom Boomer? It does have a story, but it's game play is also what Doom is. The reason jumping wasn't in doom originally is because of when it was released. If they could've done doom eternals movement in 1993, they absolutely would've. Quake proves that much.

[@blackhairedbandit]

@@Tinfoil_Hardhat the story is fucking shit and who tf actually enjoys platforming it’s not a Mario game this is doom not some kiddie shit where u collect toys and jump around like a dumb twat mediocre game

[@fuckso2342]

@@Tinfoil_Hardhat Yea people forget. Quake 1 which was made by the same team from Doom 1 and 2 with John Carmack and John Romero at the helm literally introduced 3D jump platforming, puzzles and even swimming to shooters. Doom would have had all of this already if they didn't have tech limits in 93.

[@MegaCygnusX1]

I doubt 1993 Doomguy would be asking where his quad damage was, that came with Quake :p

[@Cimlite]

I actually enjoy the fact that this game feels like a proper _video game._ That's not to say that I don't love immersive games, but not _every_ title has to be one. This isn't trying to be something like Prey or Bioshock, it simply exists test your skills and deliver some arcady demon shredding.

[@cjdelmonte6036]

People these days get spoiled by what should be industry standard. A series of disappointing games will do that. Doom is great fun but it should be the average for how far we've came technologically looking back.

[@HCUhardcoreUnited]

On point. It's a shame how games of this quality used to be the norm, once apone a time. Now we get shit like Ghost Recon Breakpoint.

[@RandomUser-fl3zo]

Agreed. Doom 2 was my first pc game so its not like am lacking in nostalgia department but even doom 2016 I couldn’t handle past a few hours. It was cool back in the day but nowadays its too mindless and repetitive. It’s a good game but the praise its got as if its the best FPS is very undeserved.

[@kylesoler4139]

well, its a new game that's decent being released during a global pandemic. So people are gonna say it's the best thing since sliced bread.

[@JohnDavidSullivan]

Doom 2016 was on to a good thing - despite the few flaws the formula was perfect. Sometimes less is more. I found Eternal far too convoluted and the differences between the two games too jarring. Combat, graphics and level design were top notch though. Just the gameplay was a bit annoying for me. All it needed to do was be Doom 2016 with new demons and weapons and it would have been fine - but they felt they had to reinvent the wheel again - tldr - they didn't need to change anything major from the previous game.

[@Handonforehead]

You can look at different limbs of the demon to get different animations

[@battlemode]

"It's just a platforming... f'ing Manic Miner f'ing Lara Croft..." LOL!

[@tam8197]

@@clementine2001 it was certainly as fucking hard, have you tried the online darnkitty version ? fuck me sideways.

[@BinaryReader]

@@clementine2001 Jet Set Willy was better imo

[@battlemode]

@@clementine2001 I still have my copy somewhere, and Jet Set Willy! I'm also an old bastard like Mack

[@RayBanJockey]

Speaking of which, Shadow of the Tomb Raider has a deep sale right now, I mean if you're in to that kind of thing.

[@jamiecruze5208]

The platforming is keeping me away from this one. Bah

[@WorthABuyreviews]

Summary: Guys I wanted to add more to the review but ran out of time due to IRL stuff sorting stuff out for my Mother with all this virus stuff going on. So I will add it here instead. The boss fights in this game are more like Dark souls fights, watching and learning the moves, dodging, parrying then hitting, I found them really boring for a FPS, they could have been way better. The level design is great most of the time but some are terrible, very inconsistent which was disappointing for a Doom game. It's just like a series of closed arenas joined together by some boring parkour levels that really feel like they belong in Tomb raider or Assassins creed, certainly not Doom. The brilliant combat is what allows you to forget the immersion breaking parkour, the bad levels, the boring bosses or the stupid collectables. I think you may struggle with a controller, this game was made for K+M, especially on the harder difficulties which make the game so much more enjoyable to play. I never had time for multiplayer, it sounded meh anyway, so there you go, sorry if the review was a bit jumbled this time but it's been a horrible week, am sure next week will be a lot better.

[@darthraider450]

Worth A Buy and the Glory Kill system?

[@Thomas21408]

Ey take care dude! You're the best reviewer out there imo, so it was absolutely worth the wait for the review! Take care and be safe!

[@silentdaggerfall5387]

You legend Mac thx for all your advice over the years :)

[@tilburg8683]

Take care man.

[@Underground3]

@@clementine2001 Corona-Chan destroying more of the current establishment and the economy.

[@bigmack70]

Meh... I liked the platforming. You said yourself that this game is so intense you have to take breaks. I think this game would be unbearably tiring without the platforming and exploration. Gives it a nice balance.

[@ScottJoC]

Exactly, Doom 2016 is whats this game is without the platforming and I can never be arsed to play that for long because its all too much

[@codyvandal2860]

@@ScottJoC except with 2016 its basically circle strafing and the occasional pick up. You could also skirt the edges of arenas. Here it's chainsaw, flame belch, meat hook, ice bomb, frag grenade, blood punch, chain saw, and crucible in BETWEEN all the constant dashing and shooting. I enjoyed Doom 2016 a lot but this one is way more intense. I gotta take breaks lol

[@MrMugwump44]

Couldn't have said it better. I've been playing on ultraviolence and I'm thankful for the platforming because it gives me a break from the insanity

[@mIXsaz]

Yup, platforming gave a nice relief. Also - it had very nice soothing or epic music, which was a welcome change of pace to the metal parts (which, actually, got me tired; gonna replay doom with some calmer background) All in all, this doom is so arcady and in your face about it, the platforming just becomes a given.

[@MrSHURIKENCHO]

The platforming may be ok, but I agree with the statement that it is out of place visually. You are in a broken landscape and you see yellow handlebars conveniently stretched out of the fucking cliffs. It looks stupid and "gamey" and not like it's a part of the world.

[@rentalsnake6542]

Love the brutal honesty Mack, you're the cool uncle the gaming community needs, I don't always agree with your reviews, but I know if you say a game is worth a buy then it truly is.

[@enoch13th85]

I think he was just pissed they wouldn't give him a key lol. Nah, Mack's great, you know he's honest when literally nobody gives him keys. He can be a bit biased against certain genres where I don't always agree but I'd rather that than him pretend to be objective. 10/10 IGN.

[@rentalsnake6542]

@@enoch13th85 yeah man, with IGN everything is a 7-9 so what's the point in their 0-10 scale? If a game has any flaws Mack won't be shy to absolutely tear into them which is what we need, too many people these days praise mediocrity, whereas Mack just refuses to conform to that daft mentality. And besides that, is their any other reviewer that can make you piss your sides than this ald bastard lol.

[@enoch13th85]

@@rentalsnake6542 The 1-10 system is kinda redundant. It should be 1 = terrible, 5 = OK, 10 = brilliant and everything in between, but somewhere along the way it became anything under an 8 is garbage. Plus IGN are so inconsistent which is to be expected when you've got a bunch of failed journalists who aren't even gamers. Following reviewers like Mack is much more personal, you know what he likes and doesn't and know you can trust him not to sellout. I completely agree, I've been watching Mack for years since he was around 10,000 subs or something, some of his reviews are hilarious. And like I said, I know I can always trust him to be honest whether I sometimes disagree or not. The only other reviewer I respected was TB who sadly isn't with us anymore. R.I.P.

[@MaTtRoSiTy]

Yeah he's been pretty reliable for me as far as making decisions on buying games. I disagree with some but his reasons for thumbing down are pretty fair.

[@Uncleswerves]

Kapp

[@MrAndrei4777]

I’m so happy that there is a reviewer named Mack. He is sceptical and honest in his own way. He doesn’t ride hype trains and is a mature, serious person. Keep up the good work!

[@LaneTheSlain]

I was surprised at how polarizing the platforming became. I honestly didn't mind it myself. Breaks up the pacing a little bit, which is fine by me.

[@mck7646]

Yeah I enjoy it.

[@sachigame924]

Same, the massive battles could get so intense and adrenaline-pumping I really appreciated the parkour bits in-between to kind of wind things down a little bit in-between fights. Maybe it's not like the original doom, but...I don't give a flip. I never liked original doom to be honest, it was always a clunky archaic game and doom 2016 and eternal are just better in every way, even when factoring in the technology of their times.

[@Sasasala386]

Same here...people have a tendency to expect complete insanely onslaught from doom. But forget that a game is just like a roller coaster, you can't have all ups without downs.

[@shees66]

@@sachigame924 ok zoomer

[@Renbuscus]

Ar cade bloody hell you’re a comedian aren’t ya? What a funny joke

[@PuddingWhispers]

Always respect the honesty in your reviews 🔥🔥

[@sunnyjim1355]

I expect honesty. Obviously you have lower standards.

[@petertelinde130]

That is one of the reasons I check out all his review video's, and ofcourse "the bell", DingDing ding ding. Mumble, Shite, Rubbish, Mumble,.. Ding!!

[@PTPalmer_NPC]

You can turn off the tutorials, no one seems to acknowledge that option though!

[@noteanotell937]

That's the reason we all love you Mac, honest reviews.

[@sunnyjim1355]

Speak for yourself, I think he's a bit of a dick actually. But he's honest in his reviews, and that's all I want. And that's not something I even especially respect, I EXPECT honesty, because I have standards and values. To praise someone for doing the right thing just goes to show that you don't expect it, which is just sad.

[@0sac]

@@sunnyjim1355 Just because it's the right thing, it doesnt mean most reviewers actually do it. I respect Mac for speaking his mind on a platform that many people don't. What's really sad is that you dont think other reviewers will lie in order to get more views or review copies.

[@sickasshandy3543]

There's a difference between honesty and subjectivity

[@hector00000100]

His honest opinion. But there's simply games that Mac doesn't understand (dark souls) and Doom. Mac never like Doom 2016 now he's complaining it's not like Doom 2016 which he didn't even like. Sounds like he's deliberately being a contrarian. Or it's simply another game he doesn't understand.

[@apeblackberry3641]

He is just a typical boomer. He is consistently confilcting himself in all of his videos. Today's video so far : Didn't get the key - His credibility is undoubted Gameplay is fantastic and never gets old - It's repetitive The game is too shallow , there is no depth - The game is too complex and overwhelming The story makes no sense - He don't even pay attention to it He love old school arcadey games - he bitching about the collectives Claiming the game shouldn't have soft parts - even the old games had soft parts I don't understand why people praise him so much. He is alright , i even watch him sometimes , but let's face it he is a boomer. In his book a crappy game with old school pixel graphics worth more than a fantastic game with modern graphics. He gets easily overwhelmed by game features like in Doom Eternal but at the same time he hates story driven games aswell like the Witcher 3. Just to mention two best games of the decades. He seeking something what completely extincted and only found in old arcade machines.

[@OrcCorp]

Tomb Slayer indeed 🤘🏻😂

[@Paul_Hardy]

I prefer Doom 2016. It's got more atmosphere. The new one is a bit too colourful for my tastes, especially the way the enemies explode into rainbow coloured fountains of ammunition when you chainsaw them. The Doomguy should never be anywhere near anything that remotely resembles a rainbow.

[@tylerw.100]

Awww. Is your fragile masculinity being threatened?

[@crawnorris97]

good comment exactly what I was thinking

[@Paul_Hardy]

@@tylerw.100 No, I just think the aesthetic of a Doom game should be a bit darker and a lot less like candy crush.

[@lordthruxawe504]

@@Paul_Hardy I hate to be that guy but it sounds like something that could easily be modded out.

[@apeblackberry3641]

did you even saw the twitch prime exclusive skin? You will love it my dude haha.

[@chickensofdeath490]

Why are stupid people acting like doom, doom 2 and doom 2016 didnt have a LOT of platforming? Im starting to think you people havent played any of those games.

[@antilysisgaming5646]

I put this game down after like 2 hours of playing. The platforming was so mind numbingly boring. I would rather enjoy a 2D side scroller than play the platforming in this game.

[@stickstu2866]

Who else been waiting all weekend for this to drop?!

[@darthraider450]

StickStu Was never going to purchase this until I see this review, after remembering his video after the first gameplay trailer, just to see if it has improved.

[@Ramses4821]

Me me me

[@stickstu2866]

@@darthraider450 legit though I'm glad be mentioned some of the other reviews were so completely biased!

[@johnschreyer4186]

Been waiting for sure, trust mack more than the gushers.

[@bradleyadams2241]

Me i;ve been waiting all day to.

[@LateNightHalo]

I rather enjoyed the Platforming. It helped provide moments of “down time” and the momentum chaining was a lot of fun with. Some of my favorite parts was the lessons it learned from shooters like Quake.

[@charlieropesocks5793]

late night gamign

[@crowns9269]

@@charlieropesocks5793 what?

[@charlieropesocks5793]

@@crowns9269 late night gamign

[@crowns9269]

@@charlieropesocks5793 are u insane?

[@charlieropesocks5793]

@@crowns9269 crazy for coco puffs if you catch what i'm catchin

[@LemurDrengene]

I LOVED Doom 2016! The gameplay, the cinematics, the snapmap! Everything! I love how you was just thrown into the game. I was actually REALLY disapointed, when i noticed that everytime i was about to meet a new monster, i would get a tutorial as of how they act and how they should be defeated? WHAT?! Exploration just got washed down the drain. There is now, nothing scary nor excting about meeting a new monster, cause they all got a safe tutorial mode.. WHAT IS THAT?! And as i played i really got annoyed with the platforming as well, i must admit! Wauw.. I wanted to love this game, and i think i still do. But the platforming and the intrusivce tutorials that ruins all shocks/imersion whatever.. And no snapmap.. Im happy and disappointed at the same time. I think its because i know how good all the other dooms are, including 2016. But this seems to have missed the mark about a few things, which is kind of sad. I wil still enjoy every moment of this game, its f*cking awesome! I love it! But it's just not as amazing as it could have been, because these stupid things have been thrown into it. I could have accepted the platformer aspect, but the tutorials that pops up a training area, every fucking time you get a new skill or meet a new enemy.. That kills every bit of immersion.. Wauw.. I dont know how that got through! Overall a great game! If I would give 2016 9/10, this is a 8 or 7.5/10.

[@ber_]

You can disable tutorials

[@warcitizen1348]

@@ber_ It should have been disabled from the get go. I agree with LemurDrengene. It completely takes away the surprise and suspense of how to fight a new enemy when the game tells you right off the bat.

[@LemurDrengene]

Ananas Abrikos and that’s good. But how will I find out that burning people and the shooting them gives armor? Let me rephrase. Having a tutorial in itself is not a bad thing. It’s the idea of getting pulled out of the map, into a training area that really ruins it :/ I like the tutorials for the tools/weapons. But please don’t show the monsters before I encounter them :/ I think they should have made the tutorials in another way.

[@warcitizen1348]

@@LemurDrengene That makes sense I agree.

[@jorixpalorn3738]

I've griped plenty about the lack of ammo in this game but I'm kinda surprised how much people hate the mere existence of platforming in this game. I honestly cannot stand platformers myself, enough that I won't ever get the newest Ori game no matter how good it is. However the platforming in this game really isn't bad. Its quick, responsive and not particularly difficult. I've never heard a person criticize the platforming as bad, but I've seen a TON of people hate the fact that it merely exists. They get morally offended that someone dare put platforming in their doom game. Like it hasn't existed in one form or another since the original.

[@Sambhaid]

Its more a immersion thing for me at least, the platforming sections just make zero sense. I mean who put all those swing-poles and grip walls there? The real hero of this story is that guy (or demon)

[@cirion66]

@@Sambhaid Yup pretty much - I am enjoying the flow of the combat and it is really entertaining, but the Doom Eternal is drastically more "arcady and cartoonish" than 2016, the platforming feels out of place most of the time, but I digress... I still recommend the game. Edit: Oh, on a second note - I actually have bigger issue with those giant red/green punchable / shootable buttons... What are those?! They make no sense!

[@chriswinspear7965]

Platforming in Doom did not exist until Doom 2016, beyond stuff like the sprinting across intricate gaps or paths ala the end of Tricks and Traps. I think doom 2016 handled jumping and climbing brilliantly. I think this time there's just too much of it, ie it's become a big staple part of the gameplay loop. I mean hells invasion just perfectly placed all these grab ledges, jumps and climbing walls perfectly positioned exactly the distance Doom guy can burst or jump. How Convinient, hells minions planned the Doom Slayers play park climbing frame better than most civil engineers could plan a road.

[@JohnCrichton]

@@chriswinspear7965 Yeah it's corny and doesnt work. But that doesnt make it bad. It simply ruins the immersion.

[@thelonelycracker8768]

@@Sambhaid yeah and who the fuck designed the cities in doom 2? just looks like a bunch of cardboard boxes glued together. 0/10 fucking unplayable. no immersion in here, terrible game doom sucks fuck doom

[@ArcangelZero7]

"SOCIETY, WHY?!?!" Yeah that actually held me back from 100%-loving the Doom 2016 game. You clear a whole crazy room full of monsters, adrenaline pumping...but SOMEWHERE...there's a BOBBLEHEAD and a SECRET DOOR... The worst thing is I felt like I was missing something if I didn't find those things...so here I am hopping around an empty level climbing on stuff and poking around every corner like I got locked in a department store for the night, instead of slaying demons. Blah. I understand the pacing thing, and need for variety, but I felt like it stomped the brakes a bit. The design around health/ammo pickups is incredible though, how the game encourages you to be MORE aggressive when you're in danger, instead of hiding behind stuff or hunting down pickups.

[@Beghty27]

Everyone's is all like "you don't play Doom for the story" but what other game has you as a transdimmensional templar knight invading hell, ascending to Heaven and killing archangels. Like yea its camp but its also fucking awesome.

[@andyyiu3987]

I lost it at the "is now Laura f'ing croft" part, and the rant that followed. Hahaha

[@Avean]

I love the lack of ammo, i struggled at first but it forces you to consider what weapon to use in any situation and use it correctly. Like if you waste rocket ammo on simple mobs you will struggle that more later on. Definetely the FPS of a decade... amazing game.

[@bmbm1]

I just don't understand the need to add a billion new things to the game instead of just improving what was already a great game.. It just seems like a clusterfuck..

[@Maverick5588]

Yep

[@metallicafan416]

Git good

[@bmbm1]

@@metallicafan416 stupid comment and it's not the point of difficulty here

[@نونيم-ي4ح]

Only matter of opinions I personally hate it when developers play it too safe with sequels,sequels are not always meant to only improve on what already exists more of the same is not always good,take dark souls 3 for example it’s waaaay more polished than dark souls 1 but sadly it felt lackluster mainly because it does not bring anything new,dark souls 1 is a spiritual successor to demon souls and a very flawed game but at the same time it’s very ambitious one and as an experience it felt incredibly epic,unforgettable and went above and beyond with its main ideas.Doom Eternal imo improves upon its predecessor in many ways and at the same time it’s very ambitious that some people didn’t hated some of the design choices which I can understand

[@bmbm1]

@@نونيم-ي4ح I agree with you it just seems like they added too much stuff at one time

[@GainingDespair]

I was honestly getting sick and tired of seeing the reviews for this game, I played Doom 2016 I enjoyed it but I swear I was getting spammed with these videos and it's kinda funny how out of all of them you always seem to have a different take on stuff and I almost always find myself agreeing with you on it lol.

[@jasonwood7340]

I liked Doom 2016 but I never got to finish it, darn game would glitch out with the steam controller and break all the buttons.

[@Haispawner]

Probably because it was _a good fucking game_ and people liked it after the dreaded multiplater beta.

[@anthonykay1580]

@Arick A4 because doom 2 is just an expansion with only 2 new weapons and a couple new enemies. Wow. "INNOVATION BEST FPS EVER BRING BACK THE CLASSICS HURR HURR"

[@anthonykay1580]

@Arick A4 Does that change how the game plays itself in any way? No.

[@anthonykay1580]

@Arick A4 nope, doom 2 is still the same old "shoot at it till' it dies" game with very little changed. Still, I never said its not fun. That doesn't apply to other so-called "doom clones".

[@sirweenielick8534]

I don’t really get the complaint against the collectibles. With how Eternal works, there’s not much reason to put resource secrets, besides a mega sphere. They usually scatter low tier demons on your way to an arena, so you can stock up. If it’s a toy, who really even cares? It’s not like the Fortress of DOOM is decorated all over with them, they’re shoved away in the extra content room. Also, it’s not like you have to collect them all, so you can defeat the Icon of Sin by making him step on all your toys and giving him unfathomable foot pain. As for the platforming, I actually enjoy it. They’re definitely not going to rack your brain and they can be done relatively quick. What did bother was the VERY few swimming sections in the game. Unlike the quick platforming sections or the occasional puzzle, it didn’t fit the flow. I dunno, it was awkward, and even after replaying the game, I still feel the same. The complaint about the upgrades, I don’t agree. You can put thought into it or you can just be like me and not really care. Another complaint I have is the secret encounters. Nothing is more frustrating than running out of ammo, then having to die to redo it again. To be fair, I had this happened to me on one level, but it was beyond fucking annoying. Also because secret encounters are timed, later encounters just devolve into switching between the super shotgun and ballista, which kinda kills it for me. Last thing I’ll address, the “weak guns.” Everything felt like it has a purpose and powerful in its own way, especially the BFG. If we wanna talk about weak weapons, let’s talk about DOOM 2016. Near the end of that game, you’re probably riding on the minigun, super shoegun, stun bomb gun, rocket launcher, and geese cannon because big damage. In Eternal I felt like I had to use everything, even up until the end.

[@YouCanCallMeMich]

Btw all reviews I've seen that mention the platforming as a bad thing is showing footage of them going slow af...after mission 3 the flow of the platforming goes so fast, you don't even think about it anymore, it feels natural AND it goes over into the combat with the increased verticality, it's awesome, the jumping from wall to wall or through a wall feels so powerfull, it adds to the badassness of our protagonist!

[@clarencegutsy7309]

It's a pretty good FPS in 2020, but it's not a good Doom game. As someone that played through the original games in the '90s I feel like so much of this game's whole philosophy is too lopsided on the "you will feel amazing." Doom has always been an aggressive FPS and that's why I still love it to this day, but a lot of the high from the game came from you as the player overcoming the odds stacked against you through your own skill and knowledge. The more you played, the better you became, the more familiar the maps were, you'd memorize which power-ups were where and eventually you'd make things look easy and second nature. The maps are really bad, though. Way too linear, almost everything comes down to throwing a bunch of shit at you in a room and the platforming sections added nothing. There's no intelligent enemy placements or devious ambushes (like the number of fake walls in a level like the Spirit World in Doom 2) and it almost always gets reduced to this gauntlet style of play where you eliminate everything and then you advance to the next section and repeat. I feel nothing for glory kills. The whole implementation of them was out of place even in 2016, but this game rides these canned animations so hard as a main component for gameplay it eventually made fighting hordes of hellspawn tedious. So much of this game comes down to managing resources. Light an enemy up for armor, chainsaw them for confetti ammo, punch them and gut them for health. The whole mechanic is not only forced but it comes off as lazy, as though the developers couldn't be bothered to place pick-ups around at strategic points in a map and instead made it so zombies or imps shamble around at all times to be mobile pinatas. Calling this a masterpiece of FPS design though... yeah, no. As I said, fun FPS game, poor Doom game, and definitely not in any discussion for being considered a masterpiece. I doubt I'll ever come back to this game, it lacks the staying power the actual classics had and is pretty much a gore filled rollercoaster ride through Hell. You'll play it, you'll enjoy it, you'll forget about it within a month. Sad that Doom has become just another flavor of the month hype game, but that's the modern era I guess.

[@clarencegutsy7309]

@@skyvenom9123 Yes, I played the original Doom games. How gross. Damn boomers. You got me.

[@clarencegutsy7309]

@@skyvenom9123 It's not about moving on, but about how Doom doesn't feel like Doom anymore.

[@clarencegutsy7309]

@@skyvenom9123 I don't see how you can honestly feel the level design is more brilliant than ever if you've also played the original games. It's so on rails and almost always leads to the same situation in which you fight demons in a big room that locks you into it until they all die. All this game really has in common with Doom is the name and tons of gore. Doom was never about all this fluff. Glory kills, twenty modification systems, lore exposition, collecting all this goofy shit, enemy weakpoints, saying it still adheres to the "Doom formula" is just flat out wrong. If they were to change the classic enemies and a few weapon names I'd have no idea this was supposed to be Doom. Doom isn't a game that needs change, that's the problem. All it needs is satisfying gameplay, great level and enemy placement design, secrets that actually help you, and a dose of good old atmosphere through visual and sound. There's a reason why Doom/Doom 2 have enjoyed over 25 years of having a legacy that continues having people add on to it. I don't see Doom Eternal ever hoping to match that and it's for good reason.

[@HiGhBaLL_GG]

This might be my favorite WAB my guy's done! hahaha That rant about the collectibles had me dying Mack! Good shit as always and thank you for your honesty and efforts!

[@VideoGameKillCounts]

Can you believe I went to the trouble to count all the ass I locked in my playthrough…. It was a SHIT TONNE!!!!

[@GTDDR]

This has to be the most annoying review so far of Doom Eternal. Seriously man, from min 5:30 you started to sound like a 12 year old child complaining about everything. “It’s repetitive” “the cutscenes” “the story” ... First of all every shooter is “repetitive” and even so every Doom is repetitive if you look that way. The platforming has always been there in the original but at that time the engine wouldn’t allow to do more than just run fast between gaps and discovering secret areas. “Some level design are boring” I mean, what game did you play? You didn’t even talk about the excellent sound effects the game has, the music that is now much more balance between heavy and ambient. The way I see it, the game improved in every possible way. It’s the perfect balance for newcomers to the franchise and old fans. The story while you can skip it totally, it’s there and very well developed. I actually enjoyed it a lot. The collectibles are not just toys you find, you can get different songs from the original doom, doom 3, quake. You can also find diskettes which contains the original cheat codes from doom 1 and use them in game. While the upgrades for the suit and weapons are just amazing, really helps to make you feel you are progressing and not just shooting and shooting nonsense, and when you get everything upgraded at maximum, you feel like an unstoppable force. That’s what is Doom all about!.So I’m sorry man but you where really nitpicking almost the entire video.

[@L4Disillusion]

Not really he have the game shit where it deserved it and praise too. Just because he's not sucking Hugo Martin's meat doesn't make it a bad review. Everyone hasmplaintscomplaints I'm sure a game you hate like fortnite or some shit could send you into a rant. Some people just bitch a lot. Lol

[@pesapesto3471]

>complains that he sounds like a 12 year old complaining >proceeds to complain like a 12 year old bravo lmao

[@Icem4n84]

My first thought when I played this was the difference in intensity and why are there so many platforming sections in my Doom game?..

[@Icem4n84]

@Glorious Bastard Definitely not. I preferred Doom 2016. Eternal is an enjoyable game but it isn't a 9 out of 10.

[@roadogsc]

@Glorious Bastard Yeah, because enjoying something that some people might not is fanboying and not a difference of opinions.

[@roadogsc]

@Glorious Bastard the main thing (this is mainly about the super steve guy) is that he is flat out saying that there shouldn't be platforming it doom, it is those flat statements that I take issue with because it is said as a fact insted of an opinion. My problem with you is that some people genuinely enjoy every aspect of the game, and they are just fanboys to you (which is an insult) you are insulting people because they enjoy something that you may not.

[@cortezbaldur413]

@@roadogsc same could be said about doom 3 but even me as a doom 3 lover know that doom 3 was not a proper doom game. also platforming was always kind of disliked in doom games (same goes for lava and or rad running) even the super old ones. tho the platforming in those was very basic but still disliked. i do feel the same that the platforming was far too commonplace in doom eternal. if u are too take it as an insult then that's on u, not the person making the comment. how easily triggered u are is always ur own responsibility. putting it on others is trying to be controlling.

[@purebaldness]

The lack of jumping in Doom '93 wasn't a design choice btw

[@ChocolatChef]

I feel like DOOM 2016 was a tight experience focused on a few core gameplay aspects so you could just blast away happily and not think too much. This new one is great but I feel like I'm trying to decide what to do 80% of the time in a battle when I should be enjoying the gameplay, maybe I should play it on a lower difficulty but i still feel like they are trying to include too many little gameplay features, just keep it tight you know ;)

[@EJGarza]

You make laugh so hard everytime you keep using the clown horn during your rant

[@Emcfree2084]

Waited weeks for an honest review of this and what a surprise it was WAB who finally came through. Thank you. You echoed many of my thoughts mainly that it's a fantastic game technically but let down by being far too arcadey.

[@jasonwhite1995]

This game is better than Cyberpunk 2077!!!

[@JRayC]

When you say doom doesn't have a deep story/lore you lose any integrity when reviewing a doom game.

[@pedroosorio7614]

Preach

[@wallywibbly250]

No you don't

[@dylhas1]

This gameplay is difficult to watch....

[@Bajso84]

What is the best fps, Mack?

[@UncleSev]

So what you are saying, is that I should keep playing HALO Reach, CE and wait for the other HALO games in the collection until DOOM jump adventure gets on sale? :P

[@valkir293]

I hope they make the game engine available to other developers in the future. The new ID Tech engine is phenomenal.

[@YouBigDummy]

I just don't get, maybe it's Just not my kind of game. I can't get into it.

[@thathandsomedevil0828]

Likewise. I prefer the doom 2016 version better.

[@JohnCrichton]

@@thathandsomedevil0828 Yup, this just feels like a mess to me...... too many glory kills. it's like every fucking 2-3 seconds I need to glory kill for ammo or health. Fuck that. I want to play the damn game.

[@NewtonWard]

Takes a different breed of gamer

[@onyonrong9244]

T A R I what did they add to ruin the game? Seems doom to me. It’s just a harder doom game and people can’t seem to wrap their heads around it. It’s like doom 3- people don’t seem to want or understand change.

[@JohnCrichton]

@@onyonrong9244 Doom 3 fucking sucked. Still haven't finished that game.

[@MisterSavage777]

I'm halfway through my second playthrough on Nightmare. Absolute love the combat. For me, the whole reason I play a game is for the gameplay and this game has some of the most fun shooting ive ever played. For me, I like the platforming. Cause I'm on Nightmare mode right. So when I reach a point where I know I'll be platforming, I get a sigh of relief as I get a moment to relax a minute. Nightmare is No Joke. 10/10 from me.

[@luishayes43]

Absolutely agree. My first playthrough was on nightmare and it was a blast. I also found that the platforming was a welcome break a quite fun, especially with the collectibles

[@AvengerDK]

Anyone else here who thinks that the audio is bad in Doom eternal? There's no meat and the positional audio is horrible. You knock over a huge statue and it only makes a plonk sound. The amount of time I've been two shot by demons killing me from behind is infuriating. Just can't hear them attacking from behind.

[@TheRealAstro_]

I felt that the platforming was simple and well implemented enough to keep combat encounters interesting and varied. Do agree the upgrade system is a bit much and could probably use some generalizing or a centralized system

[@CommanderLongJohn]

I don't see how weapon mods, suit abilities, and runes are too much.. It's a very-very simple system.

[@hackmiyer4234]

If there was a button to skip or auto jump the platforming, i would hit it every time. It's not fun and it only makes you mad when u fall. That said, its not as bad as the star wars platforming. that shit was crazy annoying

[@TheRealAstro_]

Long Johnathan i think the problem is that it’s a bunch of separate systems with different ‘currencies’ and adding them all up to some sort of skill or progression system would be less confusing. Also people hate having to skip through a dozen menus to upgrade all their stuff.

[@TheRealAstro_]

Hack Miyer it really isn’t that bad. I think its a good alternative instead of running from boss arena to boss arena directly and you can do a little exploring which is nice

[@apeblackberry3641]

More is always better. Every single time. More means you have the option to skip it , or if you need it you have it. I played the game on Nightmare difficulty , and when i get "overwhelmed" by the upgrades i just simply does not payed attention to them. I beaten the game and i just realized that i have 40 ish unspent tokens for each type , and i did just fine. Now that in my mind i started my second playtrough with more knowledge. I think this is a great feature rather than a chore. Variety adds a ton for replayability.

[@nousernameyet1310]

You get the same animations because you look at the same limb on the demon.

[@DisemboweII]

"Best look at this zombie's feet so I can do a unique pre-canned animation instead of the same one I've seen 500 times already"

[@quiettimegaming3642]

Lol, I actually thought the platforming was quite nice. Here’s the thing. I LOVED this game, but I do agree with you when you talk about your brain going onto autopilot, and while I also thought the platforming was just *A LITTLE* out of place in Doom, I felt it was done well enough that it wasn’t bothersome, and it was a nice change of pace and a good way to engage you and take your mind off of auto-pilot. I personally think this game is absolutely awesome in MOST regards. And IMO, it’s easily one of the best FPS of this generation, and deserves recognition... I also think that most content creators are over-hyping this game. But that’s what I expect. 99% of content creators tailor their reviews to whatever the most prevalent narrative is, and the COMPLETELY lose their ability to be constructively critical, in an effort to tell people what they want to hear. Just sayin’

[@gogista]

"it’s easily one of the best FPS of this generation, and deserves recognition" "most content creators are over-hyping this game"

[@quiettimegaming3642]

Rooster My point was that a game can be great, but quite often people get so wrapped up in the hype and excitement of a highly anticipated game that they lose their ability to be constructively critical. I think the campaign is elite, and the Battlemode is fine/good. But it’s not anything all that special if I’m being honest.

[@shablat54364]

didn't mention the awesome soundtrack once

[@BlobRob787]

The platforming is driving me nuts. It breaks up the flow of the game and it isn't needed. I have never been good at platform games. It almost makes me not want to play the game.

[@Dregomz02]

Platformers would be fine if they were optional

[@thegamingda7404]

Yeah I have same problem

[@Khan1670]

It's ok in small doses, but yes I don't like that huge portions of the game are dependent on it. I'm now stuck at a very frustrating part that requires multiple frakking jumps and dashes. I've taken a break from the game because it's made me so mad.

[@sunnyjim1355]

Funny you sat that - I talked to someone recently who was hyped for the game and I mentioned the platforming. He said 'Ah, it'll be fine, it'll add variety to the gameplay'. A'ight. smh

[@PHeMoX]

It literally made me stop playing. I don't want to do platforming in a shooter and _definitely_ don't want it in my DOOM experience. It is the least DOOM-like game they could have made from this.

[@Chasm9]

Absolutely the best FPS ever made. If you don't play on Nightmare, you're missing out a lot!

[@tech6294]

6:57 I also felt there was story missing from 2016 to this. They skipped ahead a lot and didn't bring people up to speed. Do I need to buy a book to see what happened after 2016 like star wars??? xD

[@jackk9181]

Imagine going on over a minute rant about upgrades (which all you could do was exaggerate to prove your point. Your entire argument amounted to: "me no like options and customisation, me miss the good ol days"... which is contradicted earlier by you praising the amount of options and customisability in the menu screens) and collectibles, both of which are completely optional. That, and the platforming "wah wah wah they've ruined MY doom game" shit. The platforming is a great way to break up the insane combat, as you yourself said you needed to take breaks. ANOTHER thing I'd like to point out is that you said the story was missing pieces, and then proceeded to tell us all about how you ended up skipping the cutscenes, oh gee, I wonder why it feels like you missed stuff... maybe it's because you PURPOSELY skipped it. Don't blame the game for you being too lazy to sit through a few minutes of cutscenes in a 15hr-ish campaign.

[@dlakodlak]

For some stupid reason, somebody thought it's a good idea to design systems which make is very easily possible for you to end up with an enemy in the room and no way to fight it. Doom 2016 was simpler, more cohesive, and better.

[@metallicafan416]

Use your brain

[@fuckso2342]

>For some stupid reason, somebody thought it's a good idea to design systems which make is very easily possible for you to end up with an enemy in the room and no way to fight it. Wtf are you smoking lol

[@leonardodavinci7425]

Wtf??? So many negative comments about Doom eternal in the comments LOL

[@KobraSnake0813]

Ikr

[@MrSiloterio]

Gamers: Reviews are subjective to each person. Also gamers: Reviewers are not honest because I don't agree with them.

[@necrosteel5013]

Matthew's Couch also gamers: reviewers are honest if calling everyone else stupid for praising it,TBH the entire thing has descended to a thorough shitshow.

[@cortezbaldur413]

Matthew's Couch do u not know the context to Hwy he said what he said? gamers lately give amazing reviews to games that by older game standards are just very ok. look at how much errand-running or even lifeless feeling environments or shallow stories games have nowadays its really shocking so many people don't notice this. I'm not old an old fart either. how much more bare-bones and lifeless can games get before people can no longer praise it. just seems people will praise anything now cause really good games don't come around as much. no hate just saying seems like people enjoy eating the hype a lot. also I do think doom eternal is a solid game just nowhere near groundbreaking.

[@justinsn956]

Mack you're funny as fuck. "WTF's this??! WTF is this?? Where's me health pack? ... You've got a little toy marauder..." ROFL!!

[@ZacTheFirst]

“The game is so intense you have to take breaks” “The game is so repetitive” .....that’s what the platforming’s for. To give you breaks from how wonderfully exhausting a long battle can be, and to break the repetition. It gives you some room to breathe but it isn’t just a staircase or cave to walk thru. It makes you actually have to partake in the game to get to the next fight instead of being fight after fight. The only memorable “platforming” part in 2016 I can remember is the little laser puzzle. Doom 2016 was EXTREMELY repetitive in comparison to this game, and honestly, is now a 7/10 game just by Eternal releasing. It was an 8 or an 8.5 at time of release, and will always be an awesome game, but will have not aged super well because of Eternal introducing so many new things. This game’s release really highlights 2016’s flaws that we may not have realized before Eternal. And the fact that some people described this game’s platforming as “puzzles” is kinda telling as to where their head is. Sure some of it is “puzzles” but they’re literally extremely simple. Less than a “puzzle” in a game Half Life would be.

[@RJ-mi3ck]

ZacTheFirst not only just the platforming but reading Codex Entries help break up the combat as well if you ever feel like reading them in between the fights. They’re a nice little breather, and they contain a shit load of interesting lore and world building. The game literally offers so many ways to mix the game up a bit by combining different enemies you encounter in a fight as well as the unique and well made arenas, and they literally reward you for exploring as well. This guy was contradicting pretty much every point he made in the video. He said there’s no rewards that can actually help you even though they reward shit like extra lives and cheat codes when you solve puzzles or explore, which are super useful. Then he starts bitching about the collectibles for whatever reason as like they weren’t already in the Doom 2016 as well. Like honestly the whole time he was just pulling a bunch of pointless gripes and nitpicks our of his ass just so he can be a contrarian and not praise the game like pretty much everyone else is doing, and the praise is definitely well deserved. Id had so much passion for this game, and it shows.

[@FableWolfe]

Yes, thank you. That's exactly what I wanted to say. I don't understand why it's so immersion-breaking that an unstoppable, superhuman, badass warrior with magical abilities and endless stamina can climb a wall or swing on poll. Ridiculous. I like Mack's videos, but on this we definitely disagree.

[@MorrisseyMuse]

The Turok games had platforming in them. Everyone hated those sections too.. :) The last thing that should "break up" the intense combat in an FPS such as these is something as unsuited to the FPS genre as platforming! Don't get me started on limited ammo..! :)

[@ZacTheFirst]

@@MorrisseyMuse 1. The turok games are very dated and were designed to work for a controller with a single analog stick, so they're kinda clunky even when playing the modern rereleases because of how old they are, so a lot of the platforming is a bit weird, but that game, similar to Doom Eternal, is about keeping momentum and not getting hit, and finding items, instead of running towards an enemy and shooting and calling it a day. And the platforming is a huge part of what makes Turok what it is. If it were just " Goldeneye with dinosaurs" or whatever people would remember the game as being way more limited in scope and style than it already is. 2. I still do not understand the ammo complaint. I literally almost never ran out of ammo. JUST USE THE CHAINSAW. The chainsaw recharges every 10 - 15 seconds and there's the endlessly respawning zombie/imp/gargoyle enemies in EVERY SINGLE fight that you can use it on to get ammo. Because of this, you essentially have unlimited ammo and way more ammo than you would have in Doom 2016.

[@FableWolfe]

@@MorrisseyMuse You say "everyone hated those sections too," implying everyone hates platforming int Doom. That's demonstrably false. My experience of people's feelings on the subject has been rather mixed, but in my case I had fun with them. They added a sense of movement and verticality that the previous game just didn't do well enough. To say that something like climbing or swinging ruins immersion is not only subjective, but frankly a bit petty. Moreover, why exactly is platforming "unsuited?" It works for me, and often brings an additional layer of fun to the game.

[@zeraith]

The platforming got to me too and I'm not even through many of the levels yet. I mean come the fuck on, atleast the 2016 Doom tried to keep the level design SOMEWHAT understandable, but now you just know you're in a super mario game.

[@benedicitesol4429]

I don't like all the colorful confetti and cutesy collectibles everywhere.

[@tejoadi4349]

why?

[@adamdavis1737]

Yeah they went too overboard with the video gamey aesthetics in this one IMO There's so much lore and attention to detail in environments, yet it does so much to make sure you're never immersed in any of it and always reminded you're playing a video game.

[@tejoadi4349]

@Stormer248 gen Z i guess

[@norwegianblue2017]

Agreed. I enjoy the look (and gameplay) of Doom 2016 much better. I would have just liked adding more weapons and monsters and updating engine for 2020. That would have made me a happy camper. The platforming is just annoying. Oh, and it's buggy to boot! My movement forward would randomly freeze or go to snail mode which would get me almost instantly killed. Got sick of that quick and got my money refunded.

[@sirweenielick8534]

Yeah, I don’t like the toys that require you to go out of your way to find. Too dummy stupid and only there for make young people go heehees.

[@dushikorsou1]

big no no zero AA options in the video settings in 2020...... forcing me to play with TSSAA is just a slap in the face... thank god you can disable it through the console command panel.

[@gwydionlashlee-walton7892]

"Doomraider." Lol

[@Maverick5588]

Loool

[@KevBoy3D]

That’s even more funny considering the Tomb Raider games are less and less about platforming and then Doom’s like “Fine I’ll do it then”

[@gwydionlashlee-walton7892]

@@KevBoy3D Waiting for the quadruple jump next.

[@sedghammer]

Won't give you a free key because you gave criticism for F76. Yeah, I'm not buying this game ever. I love the guys over at id software, but until they go independent again there's no chance of me buying their games. They've been lumped in the same category as EA.

[@darthraider450]

I remember the video last year when you said it was the most generic glory kill spamfest ever...

[@robotcoffin]

That video was about his worries that it would BECOME that, based on things implied by the devs at the time.

[@PHeMoX]

@@robotcoffin Actually, that old video was pretty spot on to be honest. This new DOOM is just as boring and repetitive as the last one in most ways. Shadow Warrior and Shadow Warrior 2 showed how to do this right.

[@hector00000100]

yeah people here don't like to talk about the fact that Mac didn't like the doom 2016 and now he's talking about how he wish IT was more like Doom's 2016 which he didn't f****** like LOLOLOL

[@phutureproof]

I got hold of the free version thanks to bethesda, glad I didn't pay for it! I much prefer 2016, I'm not here to platform thank you, or double jump, or any of that nonsense, I'm here to rip and tear. Great game, just not doom enough.

[@jpteknoman]

yeah, as an old gamer myself i know the pain. when we played quake 3 or unreal tournament back in the day, we played for the fun of playing. today people lose interest if there is nothing to unlock. they don't have fun by playing, they have fun by grinding the next thing in the list and i blame WoW for this

[@XxWolfxWaRioRxX]

I'm sorry mack but you can't disregard the story and lore for the combat and then say the combat gets boring and repetitive lol every FPS has repeative and limited enemy types its not an RPG after all, I don't know what you expected but you contradict yourself multiple times throughout this video but I do agree with it being overhyped

[@sparky4878]

Picked this up on Saturday afternoon, turned out to be the day my local high street Game was closing to move to an out of town site, to help me through the evenings now we're pretty much in lock down in the UK. Mindless frenetic fun. Not got far into it yet so can't comment on the platforming elements mentioned here but I can live with that. I think. Never played an Assassin's Creed game or a new Tomb Raider since the 2013 reimagining. Just so long as it stops me going insane as the country grinds to a halt. Got to agree on the modding comments (though again not really got there yet), I don't like that in games. I'm a simple person. I just want a gun, and another gun, and another bigger gun. All the skill and modding trees confuse my tiny little mind.

[@ReeI3oK]

I do not agree with this review , if you Play doom 2016 on ultraviolance and go to doom eternal nightmare you will instantly see how harder game it is and i beat 2016 without bfg xD , armor health and ammo is something you learn how to gather durning long fights, enemy weaknesses are must be , suit and runes are made for your playstyle and on nightmare you need all of them to be planned ahead otherwise you can have a hard time next level you start, collectibles and jumping puzzles is somethis to take a break from fights so you can breath again x) and weapon mods are cool and something extra to do in fight and remember to like kill X with Y by doing Z , so i really dissagree with this review because its totally diffrent game than we are used to have on market ( war shooters all the time and other boring stuff like CS )

[@brasileiroloko5375]

this game sucks

[@thathandsomedevil0828]

Agreed. 2016 version is better than this one.

[@mehDOGIESRATS2222]

I was playing on lowest difficultly settings and was like wtf is this lol , kinda weird system where you have to do combos to get ammo kinda of annoyed me . I think I enjoyed Doom 2016 more all that jumpy shit was just annoying as fuck

[@rossedwardmiller]

Doom ‘16 had a light amount of platforming, progression, and collectibles. They all worked in that game. Looks like too much of a good thing in this one. 😔

[@Maverick5588]

Yep

[@metallicafan416]

Couldn't disagree more

[@SkunkfapGaming]

each to their own of course but i found the small amount of platforming in doom 2016 fucking painful (mainly argent tower) but i really enjoy it in eternal. its something fun to do inbetween combat and gives new creative and semi skill based ways to access secrets. I really hate the whole it doesnt fit in the environment or it doesn't make sense arguement. the weapon pickups are bright green, float and spin around, this game doesnt take itself 100% seriously (actually some of the bars even make sense like the broken yellow pipes in the super gore nest). I mean in cultist base theres a section where you reveal some demons hidden inside pillars locked with chains, a lot of things in the game dont make sense when you think about it seriously. some areas i will admit however were annoying, mainly urdak and thoes booster portals.

[@SkunkfapGaming]

@TheBuragi didn't even think about the original doom lol but yea, secret rooms, levels like tricks and traps and barrels o fun, classic 90s game design.

[@codyvandal2860]

@TheBuragi This. I loved 2016 Doom as much as the next guy but like the whole *DARK* and GRITTYYY obsession always seemed weird to me. The series was designed to be tongue and cheek and arcade-y from it's inception. Doom 2016 kinda took Doom 3 elements and synthesized it in a modern way. I feel Eternal really has better over gameplay and the environments aren't as suffocating.

[@AbtinX]

Hahahaha! Why do grown men collect bollocks and shelve it like they are twelve!? My father didn't have toys, I'm a father and I don't have toys. Wtf is going on people?

[@thevlaka]

Its painfully obvioud this was supposed to be a quake game. The tacked on hell lore along with the visuals, jump pads in a hell scape (really?) and the pickups... Platforming in a Doom game can fuck right off. Almost uninstalled it based solely on this bullshit.

[@Rusted_]

I definitely prefer the direction doom 2016 was taking over this

[@dragenfire68]

Eh the shoot at it until it dies kinda got old by the end. Doom eternal makes me think about how I fight.

[@bradleyspinks7922]

Na mate, this makes people use other weapons. People only used to use the super shotgun.

[@BlatentlyFakeName]

Brutal Doom is just better :P

[@Rusted_]

Bradley Spinks meant more on the tone of the 2016 version rather than the gameplay

[@carlgray6764]

@@BlatentlyFakeName agreed ... brutal doom 64 even more so

[@marcuskahn3783]

Doom modder Sgt Mark IV raised a lot of good points about how DE didn't jive with the original id game premise.

[@katytis2012]

Ah. Love brutal Doom! LOVE IT.

[@XCougar85X]

It looks so repetative i feel i have already seen enough just by looking at this review. Hard pass from me. Thanks for the review !

[@chrish4052]

It is an fps wtf did you expect?

[@WorthABuyreviews]

Well FPS games do not have to be repetitive, you coan easily break up the combat with some creepy slow levels (Alpha labs) or adding some puzzles (Half-life) or adding some specific area within levels to do some special crafting (Prey) or add some kind of even that needs shutting down like a reactor, add some NPC's that could guide you to a special weapon or something. Doom eternal thought, naa lets add Tomb raider platforming lol

[@chrish4052]

@@WorthABuyreviews I like the verticality so far.

[@XCougar85X]

@@chrish4052 A bit more variaty. The worst thing for any game is for it to become repetative very fast. Once it becomes that i simply lose interest very fast. And so far this looks like something that would keep me entertained perhaps 2-3 hours at max and then boredom would set in very rapidly. And also the verticality, looks just absolutely out of place in it's execution. Give a simple jumppad instead, like quake had.

[@shabushabu5319]

Doom 93 is like the most repetitive game out there and you still like it. Get over yourself

[@YOgetgood]

Basic Boomer review. Just because you can't keep up with fast paced games anymore doesn't mean you need to shit on every possible aspect of the game you personally don't like

[@ScrubCrusher69]

Love your honest reviews, keep it up mackyy~!

[@bryanaustin8362]

Tried the first 2 or 3 levels on xbox game pass and promptly uninstalled. Parkour platforming does not belong in a Doom game.

[@koalakowboy1507]

I’ve enjoyed the collecting but to each his own

[@calderarecords]

Good points made on this. Totally agree with everything you said, which is rare lol! But this review you NAILED. It's just so fatiguing & boring at times. I feel they could have cut a few levels out. And the chainsaw I can't stand for some reason lol! It's so frenetic though! Gave me such stress headaches, cramps, ehh.. I hated it. Doomed Eternally I was! But the combat is fun. Unlike the story. lol

[@Ilsyde]

Being forced into melee range to replenish ammo for my weapons ruins the shooting element and the game flow. I want to blast enemies from a distance with ranged weapons and not constantly run up to them to extract some ammo.

[@JohnCrichton]

That's the worst thing about this game

[@lwaves]

@Ilsy de Yep, the excessive weapon mods, the platforming and this are why I'm not getting it. It's forcing play a certain way, not how you want to play it. I'm sure many will enjoy it but this is not Doom to me.

[@DarkFire515]

@@lwaves Agree 100%. DE isn't a bad game per se but all the new mechanics feel restrictive rather than offering the player freedom. Doom 2016 was awesome, one of my favourite games ever, but this... I just can't seem to enjoy it. It doesn't really feel like a doom game any more.

[@TearThatRedFlagDown]

Well tbh with games like these I tend to prefer to play really aggressive and close range so to me it literally makes no difference. Can't blast enemies from long range with a shotgun.

[@TearThatRedFlagDown]

@@lwaves "Excessive weapon mods" then Doom 2016 also has excessive weapon mods, because each weapon has 2 mods just like in Doom 2016 and just like Doom 2016 you can buy upgrades through weapon points. The only things that really got added are some upgrades for your grenade launcher and flamethrower because those are new and the armour upgrades are a bit different, but ultimately very close to the way they were in Doom 2016. Which weapons you use or how you use them is still completely up to you, the biggest noticeable difference is that ammo appears more scarce than in Doom Eternal so you can't run through the game with shotgun and gauss only, you have to use your entire arsenal and you will be swapping weapons a lot, the other difference is that there are like 3 or for 4 enemies who are weak to certain weapons/mods so you might wanna save some ammo to deal with them during certain fights.

[@EazyDuz18]

Looks the same as the 2016 game which was WAB for me. Controversial opinion but I still consider Doom 3 to be the best one. Decent story and more horror elements, even though I know thats not what the first 2 Dooms were about. Ill be picking this up for my Corona self quarantine. Mack how many hours is the story mode?

[@Alduizard]

8:04 You really have gotten old Mack! The progression is what enabled the flaming hook on super shotgun, and there are a few of these other mods and upgrades that add up and are necessary at highest difficulties, and are not just necessary but also a lot of fun to use. This doom is much tighter and requires more out of you than the 2016 one. I wouldn't say its a straight up best shooter of all time, but its definitely one of the best.

[@blackhairedbandit]

Lmao one of the best no it isn’t that’s just ur opinion and the story is crap the multiplayer is atrocious one of the best man go play a real shooter bo1

[@TheHelix123]

@@blackhairedbandit bo1 black ops? Srsly. Lol

[@therealKINDLE]

It's no way as smart as the first, that much is clear. It doesn't have that kind of balance. Instead, you get chaos, button mashing, & hand-cramps! It's fuckin SHIT on Consoles man!

[@observer4916]

the exact problem i had with Doom 2016 was that it was so god damn repetitive. i could only play it in chunks of 30-40 minutes before i got bored

[@PHeMoX]

Yeah it is actually boring after the first two hours or so. At that point you've become used to the frantic nature, but in reality you've been doing the same shit for two hours and will do so for the entirety of the game. I think this is actually _why_ the platforming was added to DOOM Eternal, but is was a disastrous move. If you found DOOM 2016 repetitive, DOOM Eternal isn't going to be much different there.

[@anthonymendez5768]

I had the same issue with that game as well. I couldn't beat it because it was so boring. Eternal however is a different story, it's actually fun! I had an absolute blast with Eternal and actually managed to beat it unlike the 2016 game.

[@andyd6338]

Wasn't the 1993 Doom the same thing over and over too?

[@JeremyComans]

@@andyd6338 The big difference is that Doom '93 was part of a completely fresh genre, and also the game is only 4-5 hours long.

[@Windupmykilt]

@@anthonymendez5768 ?? Doom 2016 is plenty of fun. Both subjectively and objectively. However, if you didn't like the game personally. That's fine, but to say it was boring and Eternal is 'actually' fun has no basis in fact or evidence, its a personal opinion and nothing more.

[@Chrisbajs]

I've played Doom since 1993, and now Doomguy has turned into Super Mario. Boing boing boing! Fuck me. Doom 2016 is so superior.

[@hauptmanngilbertoduber9953]

I was gonna buy this at full price on steam but then i saw that they removed classic MP?!? big no for me.

[@RegularDude00]

bought it for 40 bucks and i regret it now because of the missing multiplayer. WHY WOULD YOU GET RID OF A DECENT MULTIPLAYER I DONT GET IT!

[@kringsom]

@@RegularDude00 i mean people complained that the multiplayer was boring and all and they tried to change it

[@TBrianOnline]

The addition of the story elements didn't make the game better for me, sad to say. The first two games worked great because they were minimalistic with the story. I tried this game and the feel had nothing to do with the original games, it resembled Quake much more. I'm with Mack on this one, but maybe it's because I'm also too old :)

[@oppressedgamer5599]

I'm so happy with all the improvements they made, and especially how they've been listening to their fanbase and the concerns they had from Doom (2016). This is truly an improvement, and I wasn't sure devs could do that anymore!

[@نونيم-ي4ح]

@Glorious Bastard I legit couldn’t return to Doom 2016 after Eternal,Doom 2016 is phenomenal don’t get me wrong but Eternal it’s leagues ahead of it

[@phantom_menace]

I was going to buy this game.. Glad I didn't.. Looks awful.. 👎👎👎

[@MacJulian88]

I really liked the platforming for the most part. I hope they keep it in for the next game. Need the pistol back and for the Marauder to be nerfed though.

[@9yearoldepicgamersoldier129]

Am i the only one who thinks Doom gets boring really fast and is too repetitive? I tried Doom 2016 and i found it really boring after a while and it just didn't seem to have any purpose to it and no goal other than to shoot demons which again got really boring after a while.

[@Pastryarchy]

Games just can't adhere to their existing IP anymore. Have to jam it with every other game mehhanic out there before the board approves.

[@necrosteel5013]

Matthew Challacombe the doom weapons in vanilla a balanced to a tee.the main reason I love it is that the megawads (custom maps) and some sound mods is all that you need to have an enjoyable experience (I went so far as to make a weapon skin mod to give it extra flare.been playing custon megawads for half a decade and still with OG doom and doom 2.

[@PeterSellers22]

Bingo

[@necrosteel5013]

Matthew Challacombe the fps genre only really became great in 1997 with quake and the build engine trilogy of duke nukem,shadow warrior and blood.I don't need mods to play those that's for sure.all doom needs is a kick in the right direction, it it becomes great.something I can't say for most other games.

[@necrosteel5013]

Matthew Challacombe bullshit,you just can't adapt to hitscanners well.also your claim that quake had just 5 good levels is subjective at beast and horseshit at worst.I played quake a number of times and enjoyed the hell out of it each time.there is nothing wrong with hitscanners, especially since most attacks of that type can easily be avoided with other enemies,cover and a swift response.

[@necrosteel5013]

Matthew Challacombe I agree.though in some cases hitscanners do work (doom 2 chaingunners,as annoying as they are act as a pressure unit to deal with swiftly. Hitscanners have a justified role in an old school fps but they must not be too Strong.

[@mantus3243]

Agreed. Wtf did they put in platforming for?!?! Fucking crap...