DOOM Eternal | The Ancient Gods - The True Origin of Hell

[@RipNteargaming]

The Dark Lord has no chance against the Doom Slayer....or does he?

[@the_sweetpotato9254]

I wish that that fight would give good feeling about how equal their strenght is like marauder should have given

[@NCRVeteranRanger]

The Dark Lord stands a perfectly equal chance against the Slayer. Their anger is equal, their strength is equal, & their power is equal. But there is something the Slayer has that the Dark Lord will never have: love & determination. The slayer has lost a pet he loved dearly, he lost a family he loved dearly, & he lost an entire civilization (maybe even more) that he cared for deeply. But all these losses only further strengthened his determination to defeat the forces of hell. Meanwhile, the dark lord has nothing to love other than a civilization that he himself warped & corrupted far beyond saving. The dark lord’s determination has become an obsession, & that obsession has blinded him.

[@iurycabeleira7990]

@@NCRVeteranRanger I dare to add that they even share the same opinion about the father and The dark lord is probably really convincingly try to make the Slayer work with him but then the difference shows up, while the dark lord is imperfect and corrupted The slayer is perfect and incorruptible and he will ultimately prevail, how he does it and what consequences come from it i dont know but one thing is certain, The father is definitely be cast out of all realms just like Hell because he has proven to be as equally dangerous and worse, incompetent and irresponsible

[@undeadwarfare828]

@@NCRVeteranRanger Very well written.

[@HugoStiglitz88]

The dark lord will get his shit pushed in. He's much smaller than the slayer. I wanted DOOMSLAYER to be like "do you even lift bro?"

[@4ntifreez]

so this dude punched his sarge on the face and next he became both paralel good and evil deities?

[@shuwiye2498]

Da fuq?! Hahahahaha I guess it was meant to be

[@jonathonsmith4484]

I'm honestly surprised that the Dark Lord was introduced this early. I personally hope we don't fully take him on until the sequel to Eternal (assuming there will be a sequel of course.) He just seems like far too big of a threat to be taken down in a story expansion.

[@crozraven]

I think The Dark Lord will still be alive at the end of expansions

[@TurokRevolution]

@@crozraven The devs did say that they consider The Ancient Gods as the third part of a trilogy. So I think you will probably fight and kill the Dark Lord in Part 2.

[@undeadwarfare828]

For all the stuff we went through in the other games, its about time we finally face the Devil.

[@FangHeist225]

Hugo said the eternal would start building a doom universe, and when asked about the future he said that there are more doom stories to tell and that they have many ideas for a sequel and the future doom games. Hugo even said that they haven’t made their best doom game yet. Ancient gods part 2 will end the story arc that was established in doom 2016. Idk what they’re gonna do with the future games but I’d assume we’d kill the arch demons at some point.

[@benjiii3407]

Why do we need a sequel though? Doom eternal took everything they did last in 2016, and perfected it. I think they should keep this game alive for a while and release several DLCS

[@rikybj0276]

I love how religion is portaited in Doom, like The Father=God Davoth=Lucifer

[@rileyoneil760]

Dam I just noticed now, that when the dark lord falls from the father, he was holding the Crucible and it fell out of his hands

[@trapenoone6904]

If you watch closely at Davoth chest, the silver pattern resemble that Demonic Crucible. I'm pretty sure he is the original wielder of this crucible which way back in DOOM 2016, Samuel mentioned that Olivia Pierce became so obsessed with the Helix Stone because she is looking for the Demonic Crucible located in the Titan's Realm. And I'm sure Davoth @ Dark Lord ordered her to do so.

[@marrvynswillames4975]

The Road to hell is full of good intentions

[@cherrypoptart2001]

That makyr slayer armor reminds me of the Halo EVA helmet

[@Tetrohedracon]

"He is you, in their world". Doomslayer and Davoth are the same being, but in different dimensions. Our dimension was created AFTER Jekked become corrupted and blocked off. Doomslayer was the Fathers attempt at a new Davoth which is why the Doomslayer is the strongest being in OUR reality. This is why the Dark Lord said "You sure you are prepared... For this", when the Doom Slayer walked up to the Orb. This was planned! Davoth knew exactly what the Doom Slayer was going to do, which is why there was no surprise when he destroyed the Orb of the Father!

[@dope8878]

Okay but then how is doomguy also a human from another dimension

[@Tetrohedracon]

@@dope8878 we don't know where the Doomslayer is from, or where he got that marking on his armor. We know he is the strongest being in the reality of Humans and knight Sentinels and that the SAME marker is also on the back of Davoth. It was a mystery where the marking came from originally but now that we see it also on Davoth means there is a connection between the two that has obviously not been revealed. Remember, Davoth said "are you sure you're prepared for this". Clearly Davoth knew what was unfolding.

[@dope8878]

@@Tetrohedracon yes u get that. But we do know where the slayer is from. Doom eternal clearly lays out that he is the original character from the original games. Which details him being a human man in the military who was assigned to mars station after punching his captain in the face. He saved earth over his pet rabbit and after killing demon off of Saturn and mars again he stayed in hell to make sure they could never come back to earth. And that’s when eternal let us know he wandered into sentinel lands mumbling of impending doom and demons.

[@Tetrohedracon]

@@dope8878 then where did he get marking from? He shares the same physical form as Davoth. That doesn't sound like a normal human being to me.

[@dope8878]

@@Tetrohedracon exactly that’s why it’s getting interesting lore wise. It’s not so simple. He got the slayer symbol from being given the mark of the slayer. I’m thinking they are making the slayer the Jesus of the universe and have him and Davoth both be equals but one became mortal.

[@rntlpbm]

happy to see your video after finished the dlc!

[@iurycabeleira7990]

The Father is flawed and not all knowing and all powerful, perhaps he is just a powerful being that came from somewhere else into the void and thus was in a natural cosmic position to create into the void but all his creations , winch he experimented and tried to create divine perfection, were flawed and either corrupted or corruptible. He himself isn't without imperfections and corruption for his mercy to Davoth was emotional prideful and weak, this i suspect is exactly the reason to why the Slayer destroyed his sphere, Samur was loyal and cared about humans but he was blinded by loyalty to see the Truth that The Father had allowed so many to die horribly when he had literally all the power and responsibility to do so. IT was because The father has proven to be incompetent! and wasn't reliable to stop hell once and for all. The big irony here is that The Doom slayer IS his only perfect creation, incorruptible, unyielding, unstoppable yet good gentle like you can see in his interactions with the humans on Deimos base in Doom eternal with titanic strenght no human stands chance resisting him pushing or pulling yet he did so without causing any pain or injury because he values life not from a position of weakness but from pain and strength and that makes him the only being in all of creation worthy of replacing The father to protect all and make peace

[@Fuartianer]

The Doomslayer only knows RipNTear. Cant believe he will bring peace.. he wants reveance

[@josephellis8501]

Well said

[@kseniyazarubina5484]

Lol, it's like this game was created by Lucifer himself. So he can play it, imagine that he's doom slayer, and cry.

[@wuffiousmaximus4808]

My guess is that since Vega retains all the experiences he had with the Slayer, he’ll most likely reconsider his terms on the Dark Lord and Hell in general. A learning experience if you will.

[@sargeantschnutz5767]

It's interesting that this game answers the age old question of "why do bad things happen to good people?". The people who didn't have bad things happen other than a peaceful death at old age ended up wanting much more, but allowing for suffering and having free will would make humans appreciate life and truly want life after death with the father. Crazy how such an over the top game has lore that includes this type of thought, while also still having development time to make perfect, buttery smooth game play. The ID devs are masters of their craft.

[@originalvoser5362]

In doom eternal, vega/the father always supported the Doom Slayer, such as shooting a hole in mars and using the bigger BFG's as a teleporter to reach his goal while the seraphim/dr. hayden questioned him. It seems that the father has all forseen this and was planning to sacrifice the seraphim in the long run after he has fullfilled his service. I think the father has predicted that the doom slayer will fix his mistakes and that he will bring balance to the world again.

[@zoskiacultus6337]

This might be difficult ... but I would really like a lore video about why exactly the Doom Slayer betrayed Samur/Samuel. Despite Samur’s flaws in some cases, his intentions were good and never directly put harm in anyone’s way. He was chosen by the Father and personally gave the Doom Slayer his god-like powers. He pulled the Doom Slayer out of his prison, guided him throughout his missions and was worried about not only earth being consumed by hell, but the whole universe. Just something to think about.

[@Artvader_AF]

Samur said in the beginning that the Slayer was destined to serve the gods once again once The Father would be restored to his physical form. I assume he didn't want to take orders from anyone anymore and that he only had the chance to choose one Life Sphere to bring to the Luminarium, so he chose the Dark Lord's to kill him and end Hell once and for all.

[@zoskiacultus6337]

@@Artvader_AF Makes sense, since most of this goes back to the Father. Although, I think because Samur’s fate almost felt undeserving, with the slow transfiguration and corruption.

[@drpepsi48]

@@zoskiacultus6337 I’d like to share my interpretation as well. My theory is that even if they chose to resurrect the Father, the most the Father could do is push out the demons, not destroy them, as the Father can only create, not destroy. Doomguy, on the other hand, is the Great Destroyer, the one created to Rip and Tear what the Father can’t. Both Doomguy and the Father knew this, which is why Doomguy crushed the sphere and the Father was ultimately cool with it. Betraying Samur does seem very slightly ooc for the Slayer, as he has thus far consistently been opposed to sacrificing people for the greater good, whereas Samuel was ok with it, a difference which provided a lot of tension between them in the previous two games (and especially 2016), though I’m sure Doomguy has a good reason for doing it. He even showed mercy to Samur after their bout, hesitating to finish him, only pulling out the blade in case Samur pulled something, waiting for the Father’s verdict. I feel like Doomguy doesn’t have a problem with authority as long as it is not abused and the leaders genuinely have good intentions, I mean he obeyed Sentinel laws and bowed to King Novik, he obviously respected him and his rule.

[@zoskiacultus6337]

@@drpepsi48 good interpretation there... I just realized that the Doom Slayer was indeed hesitant when lifting his arm blade when about to deliver the final blow. Sacrifices are just inevitable in the DOOM universe.

[@gradedcaboose]

Samur definitely came off as arrogant during part 1 and very much seemed like he wanted the father back just to save himself and I’m sure that had a bit to do with the slayer choosing the dark lord.

[@satrixremix7111]

I can't believe the slayer betrayed the seraphim that gave him his power am just hoping he isn't on the path of becoming the next devil after he kills this one 🤔.

[@TheIceTrey]

I think he’s on the path of there being no more “hell” or “heaven”

[@satrixremix7111]

@@TheIceTrey but if there's no heaven or hell how will the universe stay alive and how will creation continue unless he is after the power him self this gets kinda confusing because they say you can't have light with out dark it would throw things out of balance 🤔.

[@TheIceTrey]

@@satrixremix7111 and we’ll never know until it happens, maybe life will just continue or shit can get all wacky and weird lol

[@satrixremix7111]

@@TheIceTrey lol yea I cant wait to find out its gonna be interesting and exciting all the same time 😁👍.

[@Skyzaros]

Well they're even now, the slayer is still angry after the events on mars. So he is tired to be considered as a pawn .

[@xyu7487]

Really good video

[@EmeraldEdge72]

Your voice is quite something to listen to. You're definitely up there with those top tier narrator voices Morgan Freeman David Attenborough. I listen to JCS here on youtube love his voice as well I could listen to you narrate nature documentaries or crime documentaries.

[@youngmadman13]

Jekkad - Hell Davoth - Lucifer

[@ragnarok1945]

Which WOULD make sense, as Lucifer was once a favored angel before he fell from grace....

[@gryphon1564]

I'm so glad that you make these lore vids. It gives us your take on the story and things I never would have considered. Rock on baby!

[@kelnhide]

I genuinely felt bad when Doom Slayer betrayed Samur.

[@batstick129]

Remember in Youngblood. BJ Blazkowicz, aka “Terror-Billy,” say to twin daughters Sophia and Jessica about there 100 dimensions when he found God key" are known as Da'at Yichud. Will then for years fans try connecting id software games togethers like Doom & Wolfenstein, but we alright know that but what if looking at timelines and bit of details lores like codex (Doom) & documents (Wolfenstein) with look at other id titles in past to further evidence and to put together a lists of extra inter-dimensions to different worlds & realms (between worlds and through time). Well Hell exists outside of space and time. Here are list of different dimensions: Hell Urdak Telos Realm Argent D'Nur (Sentinel universe) Earth 7th Dimension (classic doom possibly shared with RPGs & 64 and original Wolfenstein & Commander Keen) Alternate Earth (Doom 2016/Eternal, and possibly shared with Doom 3 & The New Order,The New Colossus & Youngblood) Shub-Niggurath Relam (Quake 1 Standalone Universe) Arena Eternal (Quake Arena/Champions, links to many other realms across ID multiverse) Strogg Universe (Quake 2/4 and Enemy Territory: Quake Wars) Parthoris (Heretic) Thyrion (Hexen II) Cronos (Hexen: Beyond Heretic) Rage Universe (Rage/Rage 2) (What if that BFG 9000 was the original BFG 9000 from classic doom) From Ancient Gods Part 1 Teaser Trailer Father or VEGA once say this “You are here to restore order to my world. With the demons in control, you understand the threat they pose to all of my creations.”. Hey say “Threat they pose to all of my creations.”. Creations not only mayks but the father before 10.000 or millions like say before 100 A.D. (In Doom Reboot Timeline when Germans begin using runes for magical and ordinary writing. They were able to use runes as a method of gaining insight into the future or the unknown by supernatural means). So meaning The Father created Humans,People of Argenta,Wraiths,Da'at Yichud (who maybe have connection with Maykrs and Hebeth),Strogg and Sidhe all have been made by one god? Either proof theory true or maybe bit false, connected id software multiverse is real but further to seem bigger connected here. Some are canon or not? It really interesting to seem since id software & Machinegame secretly created universe build off past id games.

[@kseniyazarubina5484]

"Remember in youngblood" - someone actually played it?

[@OddSpartan1337]

I hope in part 2 Doomguy's origin is explained more. This just got Fnaf levels of juicy lore.

[@TrayTerra]

I never expected this when Doom (2016) was released but boy am I glad it went this way. I can’t wait to see where this can even go from here.

[@agoodoldeboy2621]

Awesome content once again. Great vid man!

[@madmurdoch5365]

I loved the lore the added with the ancient gods! Very well summarised in this video wraith, keep it up mate!

[@takoshihitsamaru4675]

Hey mate, excellent videos on The Ancient Gods. This new lore really blew me away, and got my super hyped for Doom storytelling again like Eternal did. If I may, I'd like to offer a perspective on why the Slayer destroyed the Father's life sphere, and whether or not the Father was "betrayed" by this. As someone who has grown up around the Christian faith all my life, and even still to this day, has ties to it through my wife; I believe that the Father in Doom is still potentially omniscient. In Christian beliefs, God is said to have an unknowable will, this is often spoken of in sayings like "he works in mysterious ways". This could also be true of Doom's; The Father character. It is possible that he knew the Slayer would seek the destruction of Davoth over all else if given the chance. We should also take note that the Father for all intents and purposes is not necessarily 'dead' in the story. He lives on through his creations, and is clearly still a presence in Urdak among other areas of the Doom universe. Now, this could be a stretch, but it could be possible that The Father actually intended for the Slayer to destroy his life sphere; as a physical body is a dangerous weakness for him while Davoth is present. The Father, being omniscient means that he knows 'he' cannot destroy his first creation, Davoth, but still understands that Davoth must be stopped. And so he allows the Slayer to do what he thinks is best, destroying the Father's life sphere so that nothing can stop Davoth's judgement at the hands of the Slayer's justice. So that The Father can be reborn/replenished at a later date, free from the burden of destroying Davoth himself. His will, remaining absolute, even with the Slayer as his unknowing agent. Sorry for the long post, just my thoughts on the matter. Now I'm off to work, then to grind Doom Hunter base for that Cultist skin hahaha, I'm thinking Killswitch this time for my bg music.

[@SrinivasRajkumar]

The ancient gods part 1 kind of gives an idea to where the doom slayer was teleported . Probably to another dimension where Dr. Hayden hid Vega conscience and then the doom guy must have found the sentinel ship and by the time he returned to where earth was , it was over taken by demon forces.

[@FyruHawk]

i feel like Doomguy destroyed the father's life sphere for a good reason, especially when you notice Samur's odd smirk when seeing the father's life sphere. maybe he knew of some bad intentions that Samur has that we don't know about? (at least, this is my best theory for now)

[@ChadicusThunderCock]

He destroyed his life sphere because he knew that if the father was in his physical form, he would stop the Slayer from killing the dark lord. Because as we know the Dark Lord was the father's first god, and I guess he also saw him as some sort of son, and as seen in the codex the father had many chances to kill the dark lord but he refused

[@kevinortiz1017]

Good video

[@aevvah_flxwer8550]

Awesome, intriguing video. Well done 👍

[@crozraven]

I told you, The Dark Lord is basically Lucifer/The Devil/Iblis/Azazil/Azazel, A Fallen Seraph/Angel.

[@sullyvanrichard]

So, I was wondering... Vega/The Father tells us that "The Dark Lord is the leader of Hell's armies. Not a king, but a warrior." Does that possibly imply that there is someone above The Dark Lord, someone who would be that king? I haven't read all the lore pieces yet, but that was my first thought, when I heard these lines.

[@RipNteargaming]

After the Father created Jekkad he appointed Davoth to be the Steward, which is more of a caretaker for that realm. So, if anything the Father would be considered "the King" above the Dark Lord.

[@sullyvanrichard]

@@RipNteargaming Thanks for the reply and explanation!

[@Creminson]

Nice vids man it explain a lot

[@lazy_ape]

What will happen with VEGA/stripped down version of the Father? And Samur isn't quite dead yet, will he be back in some form in part 2? Maybe VEGA/The Father can jump into Samur's body and fix him and join their minds or something... :)

[@ragnarok1945]

Do you remember when you said in a previous vid that we never knew why Samur Makyr opened the portal and pulled the Slayer (then still Doomguy) into the Sentinel universe? This DLC's ending might explain a bit of that. The divinity machine had clearly shown that there's always a Slayer, but what the Slayer will ultimately DO varies from equation to equation. Thus it means there was a Doomguy in the Sentinel universe as well, just like the Doomguy in his original universe (the one he belonged in before Samur pulled him away). It's possible that the Doomguy in the sentinel universe had initially done the exact same thing: he sealed himself in Hell in order to fight the demons so they'd never become a threat again. But eventually, being in Hell for so long corrupted him, and he ultimately BECAME the very beast he sought to destroy. Basically, take a quote from Friedrich Nietzsche: "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you." THIS then is the reason why Samur did what he did: he decided the only way to beat the Dark Lord was to use ANOTHER Doomguy, one that hadn't yet been corrupted by Hell. As for why Davoth chose Doomguy's form, I have a feeling the next DLC will actually explain more about Doomguy's origins, and that it was probably preordained a LONG time ago....

[@abnegazher]

Dark Lord: *I'm you but evil* DoomSlayer: *DID I ASKED SHIT?*

[@the_reasonable_one5554]

Theoretically since the doom slayer needs a dive suit now, couldn’t they have just drowned him in the kadingir sanctum? Jk though this game is an absolute masterpiece I love it

[@Plamkton]

I think that's game mechanics to make it more challenging, much like how Doomslayer can get killed by an imp when lore wise it's no more effective than throwing a basket ball at the crack kid.

[@mrtnptrs]

Are you playing with a mod or something, because the grenade launcher looks detached from the Doom Slayers suit.....? Or is that an effect of the wider FOV on PC?

[@TheIceTrey]

Most likely FOV Slider

[@RipNteargaming]

It’s a mod on pc.

[@mrtnptrs]

@@RipNteargaming Haha, ah, that explains it indeed. I already thought it looked weird like this. Happy to know it wasn't the fault of this game.

[@TurokRevolution]

It happens on some of the skins, not all of them though. Even happens on Xbox One. It may be caused by high FOV as I play on 110 on both.

[@mrtnptrs]

@@TurokRevolution Lets hope they'll fix it :)

[@ImperativeGames]

Sounds interesting. But it was all retconned.

[@Just4Fun-Zocker]

Damn, one more week until I can finally get and play the DLC myself but I want to play it right now.

[@gaminggoon1617]

I will never get to play this i have the game but I lost it

[@AgentStone5]

Here a video idea is there a demon above the dark lord?

[@GabeCuello]

Why does Doom look like the Dark lord? Who's voice was it when the Doom guy arrived in Hell in the Doom 2016 game? And, Could the Dark lord be the Doom guy from another time-line making the wrong choices?

[@Pyromaniax]

It just gives u some perspective of how much the Slayer doesn't give fuck when he crushes god's soul with his hands while starring at a seraphin

[@terrellclane8715]

🔥🔥🔥

[@jrchickenbone]

thanks for the spoiler thumbnail 👍

[@sidward]

How do the wraiths fit within the new lore?

[@Fantasmamuerto]

Remember when doom was a fps? Now is like a rpg with guns and the smash bros dash jumping.

[@2yoyoyo1Unplugged]

Remember when you were wrong? Oh yeah. That’d be just now.

[@Fantasmamuerto]

@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged I think you must be around 20y

[@2yoyoyo1Unplugged]

@@Fantasmamuerto i’ve played every Doom game dude. Eternal still plays like Doom, just faster and more technical. Probably too fast for your old man brain.

[@Fantasmamuerto]

@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged yep, confirmed.

[@Fantasmamuerto]

@The Immaculate Slayer im ahead you kid. Live first some, then you are allowed to give a point. Btw, why you get mad about my opinion in first place, butthurt? Crystal gen. T_T

[@Esoteric_Athlete]

No no no no. Davoth is the first being, he created the father. This video must be old

[@maxd11111]

How do you unlock that slayer skin?

[@Brucifer2]

This lore was so creative and i hate how TAG2 basically just spits on all of it with plot holes and what essentially boils down to a canonical retcon of all the lore we had just learned. "LOL it was all a lie" Personally i wouldve been fine with it if not for the fact that since Doomguy is a physical copy of Davoth and was essentially his unknowing puppet, it implied everything in the original games was orchestrated for him...which is a an overused trope you'd expect from bad sequel stories and fan fictions.

[@wuffiousmaximus4808]

I know I’m late to this but this definitely explains my initial question about what happens when demons die to Doomguy cause I initially thought demons couldn’t simply be killed and their spirits would just get sent back to Hell but in actuality they just die cause they’re not immortal lol

[@Nomadx83]

I wish in futur Doom game can lead us to Horsemen, to the Nephilims, to directly fight Angels too and many more, hell is in hell now so Doom can go further in mythology

[@gideonhorwitz9434]

Why did the slayer destroy the fathers’ life sphere

[@SuperSourSalad]

Where is the Fortress of Doom and the demonic crucible?

[@craigeichler8351]

Doom slayer vs devil Sprite save the world form hell

[@lolbots686]

as the doomslayer walked to the gods sanctum,he stood before the father,vega. the father looked angelic but tinged in melencholy. the doomslayer prepared to strike before the father said "please old friend,dont make me do this,it does not have to be this way" the slayers hand clenched until his hands bled,he wouldnt be persuaded,no mortal,inmortal, demon or maykr would stop him. and vega knew this. summoning his power,he would raise daisy,his rabbit from death then spoke to the raised bunny "please, give us time,itd be unsightly to see this" the bunny left,after that,a spear would be summoned as father spoke "i know i can not stop you,but at least allow me some form of dignity...forgive me...old friend." the slayer,would speak words not said for milenia "then come,vega. good...bye." the heavens would split as galaxys shattered at the battle of gods

[@mauriciolizarbe4835]

in reality: jekkad was created by davoth

[@acepr012]

Compared to Christianity and other religions why does the lore for Doom sound more likely in regards to the Dark Lord, the creation myth and how Hell used to be different?

[@izyaliok]

Ok, so, story of Davott is clear, but why is he look like Doomguy? And why he has his mark?

[@Teamfortressjunkie]

The question is not "why does Davoth he look like Doomguy", but rather "Why does Doomguy look like Davoth"? Davoth came first, and his true form really does look like Doomguy. So what could that make Doomguy actually be? Perhaps his appearance is just a template for Primeval gods, Davoth is the Primeval of Hell, The Slayer is the Primeval of Earth. They look the same because they are the same type of being created for the same purpose, which is why they also bare the same mark seen on the Divinity Machine. The Slayer just didn't get divine powers until Samur intervened, as the Father likely didn't want to make Earth's Primeval immortal like Davoth was.

[@Artvader_AF]

What if the Slayer didn't make a backup of Vega in Doom 2016? Would that be the end of The Father and the Maykrs since they wouldn't be able to communicate with each other or take physical form? If true, does this mean Samuel wanted to betray The Father by destroying him while he was Vega and didn't have any recollection of his former self?

[@briellecusick6268]

Do you feed the head feed the head

[@jvillain9946]

Im almost positive the Doom Slayer destroyed the Father's life sphere because Samir be on some shady shit and had his own agenda for it. He been directing the slayer for eons to get to that point. Had the slayer doing everything because he couldn't. But why couldn't he do it himself? Why did he have to have the slayer do it? Samir said he couldn't enter the hell dimension, but he was there when the slayer picked up the sphere. Why did Samir bring hell energy to earth after seeing what it does first hand? Why did he disconnect Vega (the father) from the doom fortress soon as he uploaded himself? Why did he send Vega away to Urdak and why did he garble the connection when vega remembered who he was? Why did he have the Slayer kill the Kahn Makyr? Who's life sphere was in the Kahn Makyr? Who's giant octopus body was in that pool on Urdak? I never trusted that Mofo. Can never trust a person with an agenda.

[@Boyka-v3-s]

Does anyone know where can I download these ancient pictures, in high quality, from the Doom lore ( codex entry) ?

[@Seangalanti]

Hello

[@emadabushofa2379]

Still don't no why the father withdraw himself from his physical form into a useless sphere

[@Teamfortressjunkie]

So he could never be killed in a physical form let Davoth consume Urdak.

[@emadabushofa2379]

@@Teamfortressjunkie so this means the father is afraid of davoth and he thinks he can be killed by him

[@balabalint01]

Hi there. Good video. By the way I want to support you, but I cant afford now to support you with money. So can I help you by sending you gameplay records for your videos? It would be an honor.

[@HugoStiglitz88]

I still think the final boss fight in this DLC is complete bullshit on nightmare. Below nightmare the whole game is a joke but on nightmare the final boss is bullshit

[@fentFloyd]

Chill with the ads

[@ShionWinkler]

Wow this video didn't age well, all of this lore is wrong.. Id Software punked everyone with the first DLS and turned in all on its head in part 2

[@microtonalmilio5233]

The music makes this dlc less fun.

[@NaumRusomarov]

lol. someone read the fuckton of lore that you gather in the game.

[@MAHARAJA_DK]

I'VE COME FROM THE FUTURE!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT HE SAYS IS NOT TRUE, THE DARK LORD IS THE FATHER!!!!!!!!!!!!! VEGA WAS THE USURPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!