DoorDash Tier Game - No Difference Between Plat & Silver

[@Maximus43968]

I know my market is small. However l am at 37% and get the same orders l did when l was gold or silver. Only thing different l am not running EBT to keep numbers up and l don't get the banner that says you got this high paying order because your gold/silver status.

[@michaelharmsen8861]

So I dashed the breakfast shift today, in Des Moines, Iowa’s first big snowstorm, and when I logged in at silver I got bombarded with like 5-10 2.00-4.00 orders, during the morning commute, in a snowstorm. I definitely lost platinum because in cold weather, Doordash/Uber Eats/Roadie/Shipt, and ups seasonal work kinda made platinum irrelevant in my market if you know what to aim for. Anyways, I have been watching your content. I put it on when I go out. I very much appreciate it. I enjoy your down-to-earth style, and please keep posting as it helps motivate me.

[@RealLifeFinance]

In my area the difference between platinum and non platinum is - Platinum dash whenever, wherever. Non platinum - dash only at very busy times and max 2hr scheduled future shifts. When I was non-platinum I had a hard time dashing more than 4hrs a day.

[@DPLaVay]

I have the same experience. If I can't keep platinum, I might only be able to dash 4-6 hours a week. By the time the schedule is available to me all the times I am available to work are gone.

[@ronaldnichols5013]

I remember a few videos back you asking about the time to accept an order. I don’t know what the starting number is but it certainly has become less. I received an offer for a pick up at Giant Eagle, large grocery store for 4 orders, no shopping, arrive at store and call and they load for you. I was on the expressway going 65 miles an hour trying to figure out the order, how many items and where the stops were at. It couldn’t have been more than 20 seconds and I am down to 7 seconds and still not sure what I am getting into so I declined. I have to say this is not only BS but a severe safety issue. Driving 65 on an interstate and have 30 seconds to look at an order while I’m driving and decide what I’m getting into.

[@RealLifeFinance]

I agree - the reduced time below 40sec doesn't allow time to pull over and review. I get many now with 25sec

[@mgw4jc]

It seems obvious to me that the people who will get the bad orders are the ones who think acceptance rate matters. If I don't care about AR and decline all the bad offers, who eventually accepts them? The driver who does care about AR.

[@EndorphinFactory]

I’m 1% AR and got a $18 “large order catering order” today and didn’t even want it because it was like 13 miles one way. It’s a scam man. The tier programs let you schedule and dash now and that’s it. Even when I was “online” as platinum for two months , a lot of times it was slow and dead so

[@Enochwonder]

😂thanks for that, i was tryng to do it at first.

[@FoHTon80]

If you are on Silver trying to schedule, first off you'll need to be logged in about an 1hr and a half before for your desired slots aka rushes. If your zone is busy at that early time then you might be able to schedule a thin slot to build onto. Keep checking every 15- 31 minutes afterward. If it's gray no go, if it's Red check. I've noticed that the gray versus red affects the silver scheduling out to two days. I know it's a PITA, but DD loves their crap. Also set an alarm for 3pm your time. You'll have to work on scheduling yourself that day too. Rinse and repeat multiple times. PITA!!!!

[@RealLifeFinance]

Spot on! Pita?

[@Jbig1430]

The tier program is to force drivers to do all orders if they want to keep doing good. You have to remember they can see all the data of what drivers reject and what drivers accept, they know what orders we will not take and they follow how much money we make depending on the market they gatekeep your income to make sure you can only make so much. In Miami market it's a struggle to get to $100 dollars unless you wanna drive in the downtown area where it's no parking and packed with traffic. It takes 6 to 7 hours to get close to 100.

[@ChrisCarterFX]

Exactly gold should be 4.7 silver should be 4.8 and platinum should be 4.9 Platinum Dasher is the better Dasher ….the better Dasher for them because of acceptance rate

[@DwayneBennett]

Exactly. The platinum dasher makes them more money. Running their car into the ground delivering those clown $2 orders. I still get good offers with a sub 20% AR. Just minus those stupid banners. Tell me how a $ 27 for 4 mile order is not high paying (no silly banner) while a $5 for smiles is . I know which 1 I'm taking all day. Plat plat

[@woodchipgardens9084]

Stupid doordash turned off dash anytime and forfeit their free gas for Uber orders, I know dam well there's no drivers in my neighborhood.

[@ronaldnichols5013]

And I try to stay at silver just to be able to schedule but other than that no difference. Misread an order that took me out of my small town area to the big city, what a disaster. Went to wrong Jersey Mikes because misread order and ended up a good ways from home. Paused orders after delivery until closer to an area I was familiar with and got bombarded with garbage orders going back the other way. Declined 6 in a matter of 2 minutes and one after I hit pause orders and after I declined I was paused. The whole platform is a joke, don’t know why I continue.

[@FoHTon80]

I feel the pain.

[@RealLifeFinance]

I did the same this past week - I was 2 mile from Applebees and accepted - drove up and realized it was the applebees 8 mi away in the other town. UGH

[@yvonnewhite1205]

I’m not even in silver right now. I need to do 14 more deliveries. The rest of my numbers accept the ar are on point

[@scottyx-ee1qe]

Every market is different ,some it makes no difference if Platinum or not,in mine it does ,if I drop to silver ,DD is like ok, if you think orders are bad on platinum ,wait til you see twice as many bad orders like you never seen before on silver 👀

[@RealLifeFinance]

Same for me in Seattle area.

[@cindysheppard8653]

I'm in Canada and haven't seen the tier program in my market yet..thankfully!! I agree with not chasing top dashers with adhd, it's so much better just not bothering.

[@NightDasherRick]

Here you have to only have 100 deliveries not 200. Wowsers

[@thelegacyofnewyork5216]

Never put Pizza on the floor when you have a table right there bro.

[@chuckwhite3033]

I see a difference with Platinum. I slipped back to Gold level and close to getting it back. Gold has its surprises but isn’t as consistent in my opinion.

[@j3marty320]

Sunday is instacart day Made a killing

[@RealLifeFinance]

Still waiting to get approved

[@ericberry6557]

U did hit on the main things I think is market over saturation and time of dashing

[@cbarkins]

Our platinum is 80% AR

[@ericberry6557]

Silver and gold get lots of shopping orders all the time. I got tons Tay platinum for dash now

[@outoftheashes_]

It's all a scam. I was platinum and way before that top dash. In trying to keep up with their guidelines Platinum had me running ragged until I stopped and said oh hell no. That happened when I watched a brand new driver walk in and take a catering order when I was sitting there waiting for an offer for 20 minutes. That was it. What is sad about that for me is that that one catering order a week or heaven forbid I would get two or three made or broke my weekly pay. Now it's 150 less every single week. That was September. There is no difference. I wasn't getting the catering orders then and I'm not getting them now. I sway between platinum and gold. Almost 11000 deliveries and I put up with the same bulshit orders as anybody else.

[@Enochwonder]

thanks for this,im not scared to decline any longer

[@mscarrie10]

I've been trying to tell everyone that I find the best offers between 73 and 78 AR.

[@KrAzEDSi1mE]

No one is listening because it's not true. It is a scam. I get the same exact orders with 39% AR. They know some people will believe and commit to "getting platinum". What a joke

[@ChickenThug55]

Good up. Quit the scam. Multi app and use all the scam apps to your advantage. Never dedicate to just one app gig.

[@drewwhezzy]

Participating in this scam, you mean. No game, but scam

[@exploringwitheric]

Having the dash now is helpful as well

[@RealLifeFinance]

Huge for my area

[@ericrobinson9340]

Canada is on the metric system, Charlie. Come on!

[@exploringwitheric]

In my market if your are not platinum you get crappy orders ..

[@warren7327]

I think what they tell us about tiers is different than how it actually works. I notice a difference when my AR is over 90 than when it's below 90. In some markets they've also announced that they're using those shopping metrics to give priority to shoppers with the right metrics. I think they're actually doing that even in markets where they haven't announced it, too. There are probably other things they're doing, but not telling us, too.

[@lukevagle5711]

In my zone we are not doing the plu yet thank goodness!

[@TheBrashDasher]

I hope you never have it reach your market. Total waste of time

[@RealLifeFinance]

What is PLU?

[@TheBrashDasher]

@ it’s the 4 or 5 digit code for produce.

[@casual_studios7178]

The real sauce for platinum is dashing in slower areas.

[@Lovealwayswins2024]

A lot of $1.00 a mile. 7 dollars for 7 ish miles. Been getting lots of those lately. Nope 👎 Been on Favor. Better higher quality money and orders.

[@gabrielherrera502]

Yes I would have put the pizza on the Table as well. Perfect table 😎

[@theghosthuntergal]

Leaving the zinger to the end, eh? ‘Maybe?’ 😂 enjoy your time off and welcome back to freedom!

[@BorderlineDasher]

Friday sucked because of all the peak pay. I go from no tier to platinum in a week. All depends on what orders. It’s all the same basically.

[@woodchipgardens9084]

Safeway shopping is difficult because they have cheese in four different places and the customers always pick the items that are out of stock and the system message will say someone else bought that item today or many in stock and I say bllsht the label is right fckng there, they also have 5 different places for specialty drinks and then customers who claim the unfiltered apple juice is in the fridge somewhere. you get people wanting fried chicken at 8 a.m. doesnt happen or people want french bread, chicken breast and eggs at 8 p.m. always sold out, people ordering from the Deli at closed hours, some things you can grab and others you cannot, they just can't keep things straight.

[@SpencerPhreak]

I needed to hear this, thank you 🤙

[@MrTromaking]

Did you ever figure out what triggers the out of zone pay on EBT? Is it a specific distance out of the zone? I had 3 go out of zone and only 2 got out of zone pay. Just trying my o figure it out.

[@FoHTon80]

It's not in every market.

[@bill_the_butcher]

Well, I hit Platinum yesterday. I finally understand the wording of high pay based on total offer. It doesn't account for distance. Basically as soon as I hit platinum, I started getting 18$ and 20$ orders (way more than the usual 10$ or less orders) but the mileage was insane. 18$ for 11 miles one way. We have an amazon warehouse about 10-11 miles out of town, with nothing there aside from the warehouse itself, so it's always a 1 way trip. So getting 18 and 20 for basically 20 miles is not worth it! This seems scummy as hell, I did the orders just to see, but i got like 4 of them in row. Ended making about 100$, but ended up driving about 100 miles! So I'll see what platinum will do for me over the next week or so, but i might have to get back down to gold status if these are the "high paying" orders they're talking about! I feel completely ripped off.

[@nocturnus6]

There may not be a lot of true high paying orders in your area, DD can only send you what's available. It's also a time and place thing, you have to be available and in the right location. While driving 10 miles out, and 10 miles back, you might have missed the real high paying offer. Give it a few more days and see how it goes.

[@Link380090]

That's because DD pays $1/mile period.. the algorithm is set and nobody is going to bypass that. They throttle you back the next hour if you have a great first hour..by the time you end your Dash the only thing you control is declining the extremely bad orders minimizing to the extent you get screwed. The only way to make any type of money is to maintain between 85-93 percent with a high completion rate because that is now factored in too. The kicker is the higher your AR the higher mileage you will see.. and you still won't be over the $1/mile. If you let your AR get lower than 80 percent it's pretty much a downhill spiral from there. It becomes not worth it. I've gamed this every way possible down to knowing if my next offer was going to match up to a previous accept or decline. There's no winning in this scam. Charlie summed it up pretty well

[@ronaldnichols5013]

And hate to keep commenting but the tier system sucks. Everything is based off of AR but there is no forgiveness for declining garbage orders. It really is a scam what they get away with.

[@perryanderson6914]

I only worked to acheive platinum so that I could have the dash now feature whenever I wanted to. After 5 weeks I saw no improvement in order quality (high paying offers, lol), the mileage did not improve, and I had to work too many hours to maintain 100 rolling deliveries. After my experience, I realized "dash now" is overrated. Basically, it gives you the chance to work when it is SLOW! When my market is busy, I can dash whether I am am plat, gold, silver, or dog turd status.

[@KrAzEDSi1mE]

I can schedule 5 days ahead with AR of 39%. IT DOENS NOT MATTER!! Just schedule ahead

[@nocturnus6]

@@KrAzEDSi1mE AR 27%, that's what I do, 5 days out. I just hope the new scheduling scheme doesn't come to my area, I'll only be able to schedule out 1 day.

[@StevenCasper-o4n]

You’re right, there is no difference. I’m plat and see no difference in orders. They send me upside down orders all the time. In my area of Minneapolis, it’s so busy, it doesn’t matter. You can dash anytime you want without scheduling.

[@nocturnus6]

Nice, so the reward program doesn't even matter there.

[@FeelinFroggy]

I get the same offers every day and make around the same money and and the same customers almost every day. Sundays are the weirdest with the crazy double orders miles apart.

[@outoftheashes_]

How do you get more drivers out there taking more offers spending more time on the app? I promise you now the possibility of better offers. Keyword is possibility. Yes they're absolutely playing mind games and anybody that has done this long enough needs to spend more time on other apps

[@whysoserious867]

I like silver butter and I feel like I make more money

[@FoHTon80]

Depends on market but I kinda feel the same as you.

[@whysoserious867]

@FoHTon80 i was platinum 4 months the amount of bad orders.I had to take is not even funny very rarely even hit my goal 100 in 4 to 5 hours because of so many bad offers it's not that I see, better offers on silver but i can turn the bad ones down without a penalty as far as volume goes no difference at all

[@deborahdavidson-kennamer5329]

I did a good Friday i did 30 an hour. Lots of peak pay.

[@deborahdavidson-kennamer5329]

I got a new screen this week I don't like it. It don't connect to Google maps. It reminds me of Uber eats.

[@chuckwhite3033]

That new screen doesn’t work well with apple maps either. It doesn’t show the address on the pin at arrival. Only the town and zip code. Odd.

[@estebanrodriguez1792]

What is feet finder charlie?

[@ChickenThug55]

Gold? I’m gold with 25 deliveries.

[@Kennyc.830]

Loving that mystery meat! Wait that didn't sound right....

[@TheBrashDasher]

🤣

[@dozenfocus9133]

Wouldn't a chair or table close to the door be a better place to leave a bag of food? I mean on the mat where you clean your shoes is kinda gross.

[@nocturnus6]

Agreed. I never will understand why people want their food on a gross door mat with dog and cat hair all over it.

[@KrAzEDSi1mE]

​@nocturnus6 becuase it is in a bag and protected? You must wear a helmet when you go outside huh?

[@doubled3962]

FYI , I had to Re - subscribe to your channel .. I was already following..

[@kevinshaw7755]

Don't play doordash games my ar is around 20% no problem getting hours and yes i still get high paying orders even catering.

[@Enochwonder]

thanks man i was half fallin for it, they scammed me on mileage tonight as well, lit me up.

[@SISELERSELLS]

My OPINION….You went from 200 plus a day to 150 a day being platinum because you changed markets and now you have let your AR drop down some more and you are making 100 a day right? AND trust me if you go below 50 AR YOU will make 50 a day. So is platinum worth it????????

[@bigtuna9529]

My AR NEVER gets above %20 & I make a minimum of $125 a day for 6.5 hours & Fri I made $220 for 7 hrs! Unless Dash now is a must for you only a fool would chase those useless tiers!!

[@hizerjason]

I think it’s his market. But a bad order is a bad order. You can’t take crap orders to maintain platinum and lose money. That’s my OPINION.

[@bigtuna9529]

If you maintain platinum status I GUARANTEE you are taking some bad orders during your shift!

[@nocturnus6]

@@bigtuna9529 Congratulations, you're dashing in a great area.

[@chinoq6642]

Duh!

[@datmixednut1254]

McMystery meat I can't believe there's people that actually wait for that crap every year