The Odin Project vs freeCodeCamp - What's The Best Free Website To Learn Web Development in 2021?

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[@hectorg362]

"Don't spend hours trying researching where to learn, just start learning" wish I would've done this.

[@Vivi-vj4zy]

Well why don't you? :D

[@James-kr8xm]

"Motivation comes when you take action" - Marisa Peer.

[@hectorg362]

@@Vivi-vj4zy Idk, tutorial hell lol

[@ozmobozo]

Drink 3 gallons of water Always trust yourself Believe in yourself I can bullshit like this all day 🙄

[@darlinsebastian.3229]

Yes, I agree with you. Usually we spend more time on searching what to learn that learning.

[@tan5366]

"Don't spending hours trying researching where to learn. Just start learning" Thanks, bro. This is the most important message I got today.

[@looweeez2952]

Same!

[@musferadzhymambetov8343]

and now I don't even need to watch the video

[@nicoleluo6692]

SO TRUE！

[@ericdavidheredia]

I did all of freecodecamp and got my first dev job a couple months after finishing it (about 5 months total), no prev exp, no college.

[@ubcroel4022]

Python or java?

[@igee1605]

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[@kasimsuli]

What exactly you learn ? Everything from beginning or just some languages?

[@THEREALCOURTIER]

😮😮😮😮wow!

[@newstation795]

@@kasimsuliit’s focused on html css JavaScript python : full stack web dev / dsa / ml

[@johnnycincocero]

I like that the Odin Project incorporates some of FreeCodeCamp's curriculum. Best of both worlds.

[@realrogers890]

Can you elaborate please? wdm

[@jovenvincentbravo6576]

@@realrogers890 simply they also suggest and redirect you to FCC's curriculum to understand more about the topic.

[@granand]

Hmm All I see Ruby and full stack .. Am I seeing something wrong ?

[@bellabear653]

Also odin has a great community built around it. Free code camp you don't really meet all the other people learning.

[@zoranjuras6777]

@@jovenvincentbravo6576 They who? Who are you talking about?

[@kazumakiryu8185]

In the artist's world, the feeling of being lost before an empty text editor, and not knowing where to start, is called the syndrom of the "blank page". Being a coder is part of that world, as being kind of a creator. Just remember that this process is natural, and you will overcome it. You are all artists

[@cizzlen07]

This is so accurate and inspiring

[@TheGoldgoat]

As a completely beginner I tried both. I tried FCC first and then TOP. I found TOP teaches fundamentals of everything you NEED to know to get started. So I would suggest TOP for a complete beginner

[@hey_avacado]

Same here.

[@soumiarouba2729]

same here i lost a year learn from fcc but i didnt feel like i have a good basic so i start from zero 34year with the odin project

[@TokyoXtreme]

High-energy motivation right here. Wow. You are an amazing presenter, and your audio is crystal clear.

[@ericalessandrini9174]

Dorian, everytime I doubt myself or I feel lost in this new world of programming I look at your videos to find confort and everytime works like a charm! Thank you so much!!

[@luumaven]

Thanks for this video. I like how you mentioned to not get hung up on worrying about certificates because I was kinda driving myself crazy doing that, I now realize that the projects that I create has way more value than a certificate. You gave me a ton of motivation, I appreciate it.

[@ntbarone]

Got love for you brother. Keep on inspiring! This makes me wanna push through the shit to get to my ultimate target. Thanks!

[@leobardopineda102]

Thanks a lot! I had 5 other tabs open with more videos on how to start learning to code, but you're right, I just closed them all and logged in to start the odin project.

[@ArielRomeroCortes]

Man, I really like your videos. Love the "no BS" take, it feels refreshing to have someone who talks from experience rather than talk from "what these people might want to hear"

[@landrover827]

Your words offer encouragement as I sit and stare at my blank text editor, trying to make my first Ruby project. Thanks, I needed this.

[@paulraven8236]

OMG didn't know about odin project until watch this video.

[@johnnycincocero]

I like that the Odin Project incorporates some of FreeCodeCamp's curriculum. Best of both worlds.

[@paulraven8236]

If someday I finish FCC lessons for sure I will continue on odin project. next decade maybe hahha lol

[@johnnycincocero]

@@paulraven8236 ha... I know the what you mean. Procrastination and lack of motivation impede progress.

[@SNAKEx197]

I don’t know if you look at these old vids comments. I want to say thank you man, you get straight to the point and give pointers. I’ve started and listened to your “notes” video. I take so many notes. . . I’m going to not take notes this time, and keep trying to improve each day. Thank you :,)

[@dterrell6481]

All the info in the world is useless without taking action with what you have learned. Thanks for breaking this down in a really simple way! 🙏🏽

[@kaizen5023]

Good stuff brother. This is the kaizen mindset right here. Always learning and improving!

[@alexmrsh]

I'm an absolute beginner and there isn't a day that I don't feel lost Thank you for the motivation !

[@jsoulcool]

Thank you so much for all of the information and encouragement you've been giving. I am 41 and essentially starting my life over again after quitting my job and moving to a new country. I've always loved games and tech but didn't think I had the mind for code. I have tried a couple of times but it never stuck. But now, I am determined to make things happen and your channel has been a part of that determination.

[@maxim0697]

Its never too late man, god bless you!

[@mrinalb3972]

@@maxim0697 except that-

[@cordialement4383]

Same age. Starting something new too. Good luck bro 😊

[@adaumus]

You're not alone. Hope you're doing well!

[@edwarddavidson7693]

I'm 42 and planning my escape from the construction industry, good to know there's others my age doing this, learning code every free second I've got! 💪

[@tahataufeeq1839]

This man literally guides us as a big brother

[@loiwai487]

I definitely will start with Odin Project... Thanks very much for the heads up.

[@ShafDoesSharjah]

Just started learning coding from zero experience and really needed to hear this.

[@andypower5245]

From all self-taught Coder KZbinrs 😉 You are the most honest and on point. Thumbs up!

[@zepe279]

Hey Dorian just discovered ur channel. I was a biology student and took up computer science in grad school. People r just so discouraging when I say I'm not on becoming a doctor or something in medical field. Your videos r very encouraging. Thank you!

[@TheEdge92]

Nice! You gotta put that pressure behind you so it pushes you. As a booster hack you could read Scott Youngs Ultralearning. Check it out it will blow your mind. Your success will blow your critics away. Keep on track!

[@wf645]

That's because those others are afraid of you getting ahead of them ! As an example, AWS has a healthcare and life science division ! This is where your hybrid knowledge will come into play. Put those detractors behind you and power on !

[@tubadurantdoda]

This was much needed. Thanks for the video!

[@stockiqinvest9143]

brilliant advice mate, respect to you and your family. One love and give thanks

[@atyt22]

Hey I remember we mentioned this on your recent livestream! FCC def helped me as a complete noob. I'm moving more towards the intermediate stage now. I'm chipping away at TOP's Javascript course (to learn NodeJS & React) while building other JS projects through KZbin.

[@DorianDevelops]

I had started recording this video before that stream so a lot of what I talked about there is in this video. Sounds like you're crushing it. Keep it up! 👊

[@pira9850]

what is TOP's Javascript course?

[@amkren4158]

@@pira9850 the Odin project... TOP

[@Seekingtruth-mx3ur]

Did you get a job yet?

[@july9566]

Getting my laptop on Sunday, gonna start asap , just do ! Great stuff .

[@echopng.8685]

the conclusion part got me, thanks man!

[@geekatari4391]

I've burnt out in tutorial hell. I did learn a few things, I did never finish the courses that were more important like Javascript, for some reason I couldn't get into it. I am going to try the freecodecamp approach and check the Odin project. I am a computer geek and I thought I could learn to program to escalate to other realms of computer stuff. I thought "if I can build it, I can program it!" It hasn't been easy, but I want to try again. Thank you for your encouragement.

[@timothygreer2400]

Got an update?

[@geekatari4391]

@@timothygreer2400 Nah, I am still super procrastinating :p

[@copaceticobserver]

@@geekatari4391 Hi there

[@Jason06245]

I did FCC first then I headed into TOP. I think FCC is super helpful when it comes to reinforcing the concepts,. it's similar to before you read a book, the chapters help you to understand what the book is gonna be like. It's the TOP where you write the actual stuff. So I personally think there's no comparison because both are great. Just serve differently.

[@lapatria100]

@@geekatari4391 How about now?

[@maple2161]

"Build more, learn less" was beautiful, thank you!

[@Lord_Mau_]

Thanks for the advice. It was right on time. Much appreciated.

[@sciuresci1403]

As a senior engineering student trying to make a career shift, I found most tutorials a bit too slow. Which is completely fine because most people don't go through STEM education. I love how the odin project is more demanding and in return more rewarding. So my advice to people who learn fast is to not listen to people telling them they need to spend weeks on subjects they find simple. There's always more to learn in tech.

[@atlasatlantis8447]

ill be speed running free code camp, than jumping to odin. Than ill do the Harvard python course as the icing on the cake.

[@youness8288]

I learn so fast the problem is that i should find a way to remember thing easy

[@overPowerPenguin]

​@@youness8288You don't remember because you don't practice by doing above what you consider current level project from start to finish. Looking at code syntaxes and documentation is completely fine, as a normal human can't remember that much information. After few months you will forget things you didn't used at least weekly, but you will find them easier to understand and use when you re-learn them, some of them by just a fast looking at documentation.

[@klc101790]

Thank you! I started with Odin without any technical background. I think I’ll take your advice instead. Odin is too advanced for my totally beginners level, but I am willing to go back to Odin.

[@alanmurphy4754]

Any updates bro

[@nalendratroyard9950]

how's goin bro?

[@MrJustCallMeJames]

How far have you gotten bro?

[@omobolajiadex7447]

how's it going bro

[@RobertSpiller]

@@alanmurphy4754 It appears that he's mia. I just started with Udemy, next it's Python very everybody....lastly CS50...harvard's highly regarded python program and they also offer computer science.

[@ruffhouse9760]

super helpful Dorian, earned yourself a new sub!!! thanks for the info!

[@AtomLabX]

Thanks 🙏🏾 really appreciate the key points!

[@sommelierdavida]

I'm learning with both! Glad to see this comparison,

[@sandk75]

Great video, love the motivation and help! I have never heard of the Odin's Project but I will add that to my learning path, cheers man!

[@stardust7970]

man love your videos!! thanks for the encouragement!

[@Marian-zw2ff]

Thanks for the pep talk. I really need it. Thanks for this

[@majamoore6209]

Thanks for sharing this information with us! Not only was it very informative, but also extremely helpful. Great tips on how to focus your training.

[@nothings786]

Your method of explaining is really really good Thanks a lot

[@joelchrono]

I was already quite familiar with git, linux and general development for a while, so I am glad I decided to start with Odin and refine the details I already knew and develop even further

[@bunkrz3]

Very helpful, informative and encouraging video, thank you!!

[@himanshneekhra3787]

Very nice and informative video. 💕 I really like your mindset 👍.

[@peteglews6601]

This was helpful... thank you, liked and subscribed 😁

[@davidnelson4960]

Love the honesty. Don't have clue about this field, but the guy seems to be spitting honestly so he gets my subscription.

[@netskater4454]

FCC is better to start for sure. Simply for the fact of how it creates a positive feedback loop. A lot of simple tasks are broken down into small chunks, which as you complete the task you feel rewarded little by little. Creating less resistance to learning code, and adds confidence to the user. The Odin Project although it simulates the real world developing much better than FCC, is filled with a lot of negative feedback loops that can discourage the user from continuing. Just setting up Linux and an environment to program already made me feel as though I was too inadequate to start the journey. I find myself always diving too deep into a certain subject due to all the suggested links and the end result I get too distracted from actually coding.

[@ShadaeMastersAstrology]

Thanks for sharing your insights.

[@amerikanpoliskamerasvideol6170]

virtual machine decided to not open up after i install linux i wish odinproject has option to contiune without linux

[@Jason06245]

bruh I don't even understand who do people find installing Ubuntu and an environment is difficult. It really isn't, and y'all making this seems difficult. Just create a section on your disk, install a ubuntu there and it's done. The environment is just installing vs code. Enlighten me what's so difficult about it please.

[@Jason06245]

@@amerikanpoliskamerasvideol6170 sure you can continue TOP without a Linux but in real life most of the jobs out there would literally require you to be familiar with Linux. TOP prepares you from the start. If something's wrong with virtualbox just google the error, and that's the most important skill of a programmer.

[@chadhardt6136]

@@Jason06245 if you are just ¨testing the water¨ to see if coding is your thing, wasting a few days to install a OS that you dont give a fuck about JUST to start the learning, its kinda a pain in the ass, and just because you know how to do it, it doesn't mean that everyone else does...

[@claudioillanes5487]

Gracias Dorian por tus consejos, actualmente estoy haciendo cursos en Udemy y el plan de estudios de FreeCodeCamp, me interesa mas adelante ver el proyecto Odin.

[@luyandomuunga2077]

thank you so much i was blank at some point, this information is so helpful.

[@channingseymour2204]

Refreshing and great direction. Thanks for sharing this.

[@alena-mb]

Thank you so much for your video, your words are so inspiring and encouraging!

[@techstack124]

finally got some good advice to work on thanks Dorian appreciated...

[@arvinheleraentertainment4601]

Thank you for the information about the product!

[@caesarcastro9583]

Thanks a lot. Liked and suscribed!

[@mightyt946]

Thank you Dorian!! Day 1 for me. Lets get this!!!!

[@santiagocorrales6585]

Thanks you so much for the advisement and the motivation!

[@AbhiAdventure]

Just love the motivation you are giving.

[@rimantasdanilevicius6754]

Never heard about The Odin Project. Thanks for sharing, good content!

[@kloyster]

Thank you for new perspective on the matter of beginner learning.

[@paulvickers8059]

working through the course or projects with a partner I think would be useful, as later in interviews they ask that kind of stuff, if you have worked in a team to solves problems. If you have for some complexish projects, I think this can be a plus

[@SherriAI]

w3schools is also great for learning. it is not quite project based but it is a vast source of infortmation. i understood JavaScript much better through w3 vs fcc

[@daromacs]

Really nice video, thanks for sharing.

[@gabrielcruvinel9722]

Thank you mister Careca (a little compliment in portuguese). Your words gave me a clear path to follow. You are the man!

[@CARTUNE.]

This was gold. Thanks brother.

[@rickypartridge230]

Just the video I needed cheers mate

[@avagsargsyan404]

Thanks a lot for a really good advice !

[@Jason06245]

I did FCC first then I headed into TOP. I think FCC is super helpful when it comes to reinforcing the concepts,. it's similar to before you read a book, the chapters help you to understand what the book is gonna be like. It's the TOP where you write the actual stuff. So I personally think there's no comparison because both are great. Just serve differently.

[@jarrellidk]

Honestly if you finished all of FCC then just moved to Odin project you wasted your time. You could have just built projects, looked up what you different remember, and got a job. What you did is how people get stuck in tutorial hell.

[@SumanthLazarus]

Start with fCC (beginner friendly), then introduce TOP into your learning plan. Note, you don't have to do them one after the other, slice & dice and build conceptual + practical expertise. Also, I highly use Anki flashcards to recall & help retain all atomic facts I learn along the way.

[@superscience4817]

@@SumanthLazarus what is Anki Flashcards?

[@Antody]

@@SumanthLazarus I was actually thinking about using Anki for learning how to code, similar how it's used in langage learning. Spaced repetition systems are quite helpful in this regard.

[@phantomthoughts6421]

These videos man help a lot, its very Niche but yeah glad to hear not alone in a lot of these feelings when aspiring to be self taught

[@stockiqinvest9143]

Can you make a Quick Video on how to take notes while you studying coding? How did you take notes while studying coding? Thanks.

[@jeandamasceneuwingeneye8822]

Nice video. Very insightful

[@lillithsleeps]

As a newbie using free code camp and the Odin Project I agree completely with this.

[@Damo_LowEnd_or_NoEnd]

Your the best on KZbin right now💪🏾😎

[@NathanHedglin]

Great video. Learn then build your own stuff. You can't learn until you build something yourself from scratch. Certifications help in interviews as it shows initiative. I wouldn't drool over them though lol.

[@javielucho06]

Great, video. Thanks a lot, dude.

[@jshackelford31]

Thanks for this video I would of never heard of the Odin Project. Going to do both. Another free resource for learning App Academy Open its Ruby based. Thanks again.

[@darren537]

Is it called academy open? Is it IOS only

[@TennisComplete]

Hi Dorian, I subscribed and liked your videos lol thanks for doing this channel! You really inspire me and motivate me to keep pushing forward. Looking forward to seeing your channel grow and hope I can keep learning and get better at coding. I listen to your videos when I drive to work and go on my runs lol Thanks for all the tips! -Sam

[@DorianDevelops]

Thanks for subbing, hearing you say that made my night! I'm so happy that I can motivate you like that, it's really means a lot to me to hear someone say that. That motivates me to keep making these videos! Good luck on your journey, wishing you the best!

[@TennisComplete]

@@DorianDevelops absolutely! I’m doing both Freecodecamp and Orin project and a little Treehouse right now. Yes looking forward to more videos! Thank you!!

[@DorianDevelops]

@@TennisComplete Sounds like a solid plan! Those are all really good resources!

[@bavidlynx3409]

I was unsure about js and was doing development using django. But day before yesterday i jumped the gun and started odin project and i will complete it.

[@TopGamesEntertainment]

I love the vid , you got a new sub thx man

[@Stevengdev]

Awesome review! Thanks!

[@annabelleellis8098]

Yes I agree with his advise. It's true I've tried both.

[@nue111]

Thanks so much! Your video helps me a lot and gives me motivation. I've learnt freecodecamp for weeks. I'd like to know how can i create website with HTML, thanks.

[@kevinparker2314]

Great advice i love it thanks 👍

[@pietrolopesdev4366]

I started trying to learn how to code by myself last week. And yesterday - when I finally (think) that I've finished writing down my personal study roadmap - I realized I had absolutelly no idea what I was doing now that I know that there are a lot of other things like github, relational and no relational databases, logic, algorythms, frameworks, librarys., etc. Hahaha. This video really made me a lot less anxious! Because "setting up my whole environment" is exactly what I've been doing for the past week, and until now I didn't really know if that was one of the good strategies to start coding. Learning the actual languages are just a small part of all the required knowlodge, right? I guess now I know enough to start the right way. Maybe I'me more of an Odin tipe of person =P

[@LAZYxDISASTER]

Hi. How is your journey going? Have you made much progress? I started learning from yt video’s not so long ago. Didn’t really know about the whole setting up until now :)

[@nathanmoore9690]

Thank you for the good advice.

[@michaelrascon3844]

You give me hope ! Thank you

[@rafafilipek1560]

Thank you, perfect video that's what I need

[@georgiostatakis7887]

Foundation Course of Odin Project Helped me a lot, teached me github and also freecodecamp.

[@oscaralejandropazbalderas4288]

Great video...thank you so mucho for your advices...!!!

[@dmorales_0]

Great video, very helpful, like and new subscriber!

[@DorianDevelops]

Thanks for watching and subbing! Glad you found the video helpful!

[@ohh7467]

I have started FreeCodeCamp but I’m looking into Odin since I was told that it’s a great place so now I’m re-considering what to do next with all the information I have given. But I do plan to learn from both.

[@algerianfromsahara2899]

Freecodecamp more efficient I do it now .

[@6ixsvp]

Thank you for the advice

[@rebeccafleek864]

This video came at the perfect time in my journey!

[@eeuunnlol]

Thank you so much. This was very motivating. I'm a new coder starting with freeCodeCamp. :) I will try out the Odin Project later on. Honestly this whole journey is tough because it's so different from what I studied in university (psychology) so I feel like I'm back at step 0. But I'm motivated to find a career as a front-end web developer. I'm so glad I found your channel.

[@shubhamstark5022]

Freecodecamp will boost your confidence, theodin project describes everything deeply. I personally started with FCC a couple of months ago now I'm starting to revise with the odin project. Important thing is learn from anywhere just don't stop practicing, code at least 3hours daily and you're going to be good at it.

[@eeuunnlol]

@@shubhamstark5022 thanks man!

[@discharger61]

@@eeuunnlol hey hoping you'll see this but how have things been? I also graduated from psychology and now trying to all-in on coding/programming.

[@geethu1093]

Hi Eunice, Best wishes, I am from management background, gonna learn coding , I am planing to start with FCC. I watched the first 6 videos Harvard CS50 , but a bit demotivated since it's completely theory, hence I am planing to start with FCC and learn to build things. how s it going for you?

[@christopherperez7731]

Any update ?

[@WILLGYS]

As matter of fact I did what he says years ago. I started fcc and did some basic html and ccs. And then started odin. Odin is suited for serious learners, who do all the assignments.

[@jarrellidk]

Considering I got a position on front end after the first 3 modules of FCC, I'm gonna say thats false. FCC teaches you the majority of the essentials. Odin teaches you almost everything, essentials or not. It's overkill unless you're deadset on your first position being a full stack engineer. Which btw, your experience will be more of a barrier than any knowledge will if you're going for full stack.

[@knw-seeker6836]

Thanks a lot man i did not know Odin Project

[@Dj.Stevilgenius]

Thank you. Great vid.

[@businessmanph]

The visual studio code live server is awesome 👌

[@SumanthLazarus]

Start with fCC (beginner friendly), then introduce TOP into your learning plan. Note, you don't have to do them one after the other, slice & dice and build conceptual + practical expertise. Also, I highly use Anki flashcards to recall & help retain all atomic facts I learn along the way.

[@MySUHIT]

What's a top?

[@focusedSoul5]

@@MySUHIT The Odin Project

[@user-od1wk9yt4e]

@@focusedSoul5 hey what is TOP full form? It is Odin?

[@focusedSoul5]

@@user-od1wk9yt4e The Odin Project (TOP)