How Powerful Are Mages?- World of Warcraft Lore

[@MyViolador]

oh sure they can use arcane at the point of calling the atention of the corrupted titan but god forbid you if you use necromancy

[@erikjb12]

Well, it's gross and disrespectful to loved ones of the raised one and so on

[@alejandroderienosa4828]

erikjb12 yet the death knights are permitted or tolerated at least if they do so.

[@erikjb12]

Principle :P We don't want a society of grave diggers... And well, It's tragic that the Lich King did all that but hey, we reeeeeally need the deathknights as out allies, right? ;) I get ya.

[@alejandroderienosa4828]

Aleks Mtr I'm talking about the class campaign where we assemble the 4 horseman.

[@SemperVII]

In the Arthas novel they describe how Necromancy affects the user, and, well, you wouldn't want that happening to yourself or your students. There's also the unethical practice of enslaving dead people, probably not something you want in society.

[@DemonMaluMintus]

There are couple of things that I would like to mention---Although this video is quite nice I feel that it was mostly made from general knowledge and lore pages such as wow pedia---Sadly magic doesn't have that much lore on the actual lore pages---A mage's real strength is their versatility. Although fel is more potent in general-They still counter each other--You can see that by the fel wards that kirin tor mages place around Karazhan, not to mention that mages (depending on their knowledge and strength) may actually draw energy from ley lines OR from mana gems, it is even shown in game that mages can use mana gems instead of their own mana reserves in game in a questline. Not to mention that mages doesn't really need to 'target' their enemies to cast a spell---They can blink as said above, polymorph or the best they could slow their enemies--Which is literally stated to be a chronomancy magic--Meaning it actually slows down the person literally. Apart from that mages can actually combine multiple schools of magic to create stronger spells--Domes of arcane by abjuration, elemental wards, and even in the nightborne questline combining abjuration with transmutation to create an unstable space barrier >.< Or the time where they can actually place wards or enchantments on their robes or on themselves---Such as in game wards where they shield you when you are hit or fataly wounded--Imagine a rogue's dagger strucking against a pre placed ward :P Their main strength is the combination of their deep knowledge and understanding of magic and their creativity. Also on a side note---In some lore sources mages can use other elements other than fire and frost--including electricty and arcane arcs in game lore and secondly a mage's water and frost can be enchanted and used to dose off fel fire and stop fel assaults as it was shown in gul'dan vs khadgar. Also in game kirin tor mages actually use ice block to literally block off falling infernals c: Comparing a mage's ice block or frost is like comparing a druid's animal form to your average animal ^^

[@mondroga2862]

Thank you

[@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm]

Thats pretty accurate save for the Target part. A mage 100% has to focus on who he casts on as he "channels" thud mumbles an incantation and like with a gun needs to kerp wjat he conjurs and where he guides it in mind till the channeling finishes. During quick abilities like blink wich are btw Transmutation. So in the reality wrap school such as Portals, polymorph etc. A short ranged teleport you need to aim or you teleport into a wall. A mage could however skip time around himself to basicly quick run to a spot while time around still flows. But overall actual teleportation allows to reach high places pr even futher locations if you focus more.

[@DemonMaluMintus]

@@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm Yeah re-read my cmment, target depends on the spell school I would say. Then again spell castig is portrait differently in every novel :/ In the old hored one for instance to burn a fire they focus on the concept of fire and try to bring an inner heat out. Ie focus. Some spells do seem to require incantations, though per novels some don't. And yes! THANK YOU never sen anyone else mentioning the speeding up time around the mage bit before x'D People tend to forget that slow all is actually chronomancy, and so is timewarp.

[@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm]

@@DemonMaluMintus From what i gathered all the big spells requier some form of casting and since things like curse of tongues slows castime we can assume all spells kind of do if they need to be channeled or cast forca lenghy time before you can fire them out. The instant spells do not. Now you can say it is just purely gameplay application id still go with it. As no not rob warlocks of a vetsitile silence in rp combat situations.

[@DemonMaluMintus]

@@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm More complex DO require chanting simpler blunter ones do not from what I have read at least. But yes more complex spells do require chanting. Though from what we have seen simpler spells like barriers do not require such.

[@Kakio]

Hello Doronsmovies, this is guys

[@Doronsmovies]

Hello, what's up whats down paranoidshadows?

[@camimi7782]

+Kakio lmfao.

[@notkj2040]

+Doronsmovies you call your fan paronoid shadows how rude?

[@camimi7782]

Monkeyplays05 Fire Yes because we are paranoid shadows as we sneak with our undead rogues.

[@notkj2040]

Lol the old days gankin ahh nastolgic

[@albeon_draken]

Actually, if you read Tides of War and other material, Arcane is usually described as representative of order, being depicted as math, orderly and predictable, by Kalecgos in a conversation with Jaina. The magic most representative of chaos in the lore I've read is Fel. A quote from Wowpedia: "While arcane represents order, fel is the magic of chaos and disorder." Edit: Just realized that he may have said "this order" and not "disorder," in which case, disregard.

[@alexmiceli4439]

Liked the hell out of this video man, wish you had the time to make more videos. I hate the wait although small between the videos. I must have more MOAR!

[@Doronsmovies]

Thanks. Definitely will improve on the time it takes to make a video, ideally at least once a week.. The schedule got completely messed up so it took ages to get this video out.

[@tirannlaws8311]

the answer is a lot more powerful than blizzard will ever let be when playing them lol

[@PrimarchRoboleonFrenchyman]

Not true, have you ever seen fire mage?

[@ksherman51]

been waiting SO long for this.

[@brankodimitrijevic382]

you forgot one thing about mages against DK's and demon hunters, mages have teleport and blink, and you forgot to say that they can control the element of fire and ice/water so that gives them an edge even infront of fel users

[@matejkopa97]

And spellsteal.

[@brankodimitrijevic382]

Garick what?

[@matejkopa97]

Well everyone forgets spellsteal, which gives them an edge against almost every class.

[@Nerazmus]

they can't control elements, it's all arcane magic.

[@brankodimitrijevic382]

Mr.Vojtik ice block, flamestrikes, pyroblasts that is arcane???

[@alphomdelirium5635]

I think the mages are the strongest class in lore (my main its not even a mage, so dont think that im not trying to be objetive). The warlocks has nothing to do against them, cause mages are the only ones who can manipulate all forms of magic. The titans are also considerer mages. Obviously their power depends in the training and skills of the individual, but almost nobody could face a mage that has reached all his potential. (Malfurion did, but the context play a huge part in that moment of Azeroth, also malfurion is the most powerfull druid) DK and Demons Hunter are really dangerous counters, but I still think that a mage with enought potential could still winn

[@TresStrom]

Lmao Broxigar a lone warrior orc took on burning legion and even managed to to wound sargeras where the mages at?

[@matthewcauthorn1714]

thank you for this video...I always enjoy diving into lore...and this is one video ive been looking for for awhile

[@Nerazmus]

1. Necromancy is magic of itself, it most of the times is not entirely arcane. 2. DK can always (on average) beat mage in 1v1, especially the new ones.

[@blowjobless4994]

Mr.Vojtik Well,they're made to counter them...so yeah,I agree.

[@mastersouth531]

saronite armor has small gaps.... perfect for evocation of fire, and I agree with you that necromancy is not arcane, it's just that some mages used it, so it was called a school of magic, thou it doesn't have anything to do with arcane

[@SelfProclaimedEmperor]

The Stronger mages, "Arch-mages" can probably beat Death Knights 1vs1

[@Nerazmus]

Archmage can take on ordinary DK and most likely win, but if you want fair comparison you have to look at Archmage vs Deathlord/Scourge Lord (basically high tier DKs) such as Koltira, Thassarian or Rivendare (or even higher Mograine). And these guys are on entirely different level.

[@SelfProclaimedEmperor]

Mr.Vojtik to be fair jaina is an archmage, she faces the lich king himself in the halls of reflection. She couldnt kill him, but arthas wasnt able to kill her either. Archmages are often said in the lore to have powers rivaling those of demi-gods

[@madryoch]

Well I think that time manipulation which is an arcane mage strength far outclasses the warlocks's powers ... and tbh it should counter death knights and demon hunters for fun. Time magic is magic that outclasses everything else

[@SemperVII]

Would be fun to know just how much they can control time (and space to an extent). Chronomancy definitely has the potential to be the strongest form of magic.

[@DemonMaluMintus]

@@SemperVII Actually so far only magic that could counter chronomancy was arcane in itself..Using wards to move inside a time stop zone etc..We know for a fact though that their simple slow spell actually slows the victim via chronomancy.

[@sebastianmartiny2452]

DO MONKS! Please... Love your content!

[@Doronsmovies]

Thanks, will cover them eventually.

[@lubaka8269]

Yep i cant wait for monks as well, chi can be quite OP :D and i also feel like Doron doesnt give monks the love they deserve.... he didnt even include them in the comparison againts mages, not even in a single video!

[@sebastianmartiny2452]

Doronsmovies Dying to see what you come up with

[@joshuatunis6732]

who gives af about monks

[@XrissXrow]

Thanks for making this! Definitely liked the video. Can't wait to see more ^_^

[@Blazingwheel]

5:20 So Troll Mages can tap into the Loa for example??? Also why don't we see more Troll Mage lore from Blizz?

[@jackadam01]

I think a Necromancer Mage would make a cool class.

[@Metaphix]

Cool video. I really wish there was a mellee spec for mages. Battlemages exist in the game and lore you just cant be one unfortunately. There's Dathric in Netherstorm, Spellblade Aluriel in Nighthold and others.

[@thomasmccoskery4494]

It really seems like who kills who in these encounters depends on who strikes first. Mages are squishy, so if they get hit once they go down. But if the mage casts power word crunch on you before you can get to them or break their defenses you are dead

[@marcojoinha]

Death Knights, Demon Hunters, Mages and Warlocks are the strongest classes in lore. Which would beat which is absolutely circunstantial for these classes, but they pretty much steamroll all other classes (with the exception of pallys being a match for DKs because they are counters to each other). Any other interpretation is just plain wrong.

[@marcojoinha]

Garrett Myles Well they are not a class or spec, so it does not really mean much on the powerlevel scale of classes.

[@thecookiemeister5374]

Marcos Ridley rogues :)

[@Biouke]

Garrett Myles Void/Shadow power revolves around corruption and mind control rather than sheer destructive capacity. And if Chronicle is any indication, it IS on par with the Light: assets1.ignimgs.com/2016/02/18/wowchroniclesample-page-004jpg-c74967.jpg

[@Nerazmus]

Yes, but current presence of the Void is not strong enough to beat Arcane nor Fel

[@UghieYucky]

Void and Light are equals, Pure void and Pure light can't manifest themselves in our world, we only see a shade of their power. The same way Light inspires, the void can be used to impart fear, despair and similar emotions. Arcane can be used for destruction, but it usually means Order. Fel is Arcane on steroids and a quicker way of doing things, where Arcane requires effort and hard work. With Fel you can just sacrifice animals and you can get enough to do quite a lot of things.

[@DemonMaluMintus]

I know this is ages years old but I still wish to point somethings out for new watchers, as a lot of rpers from the eu and us rp servers tend to use these videos as referencec too-Mages aren't restirected with in game spells we have. For instance wards can be long lasting if they are cast on armors or runes like dhs or rune mastes, and they can stop both physical attacks and magic basic attack, this bit of lore is from novels. Secondly if a mage or a warlock or a caster in general manages to lock down an opponent(a potent or experienced caster thata is) they can literally bring down doom upon them, casters can channel potent spells if they take their time, and they have more than simple ice novas in lore, there are literal binding spells that can immobilize an opponent and so on. I know in game they try to balance things out for games sake but for real lore and novels(and I am speaking about the recent novels not the ages old ones) casters and dhs are quite op actually, this is shown in illidan novel various times as well, spells or glaive attacks being deflected by wards, binding spells, scrying, portals, wards, and many more!

[@aquaholic3774]

Doron, could you maybe do a video on how artefact weapons are treated in roleplay? Are they rejected because everyone having significant lore weapons ruins rp, or are there some exeptions? I am planning on server changing my mage to argent dawn and I've rolplayed before, but I'm wondering about the state of rp in legion. It would be great if you could clarify!

[@santiagoolivares336]

Finally a new video!!!

[@joaomacedo4837]

Do one for shadow priests please (since you already did one for the paladins, its not realy necessary to do one for regular priests) :^)

[@MarkPuk]

How do you manage to know so much lore bro? Your vids are sick!! i love them ♡♡♡

[@rubengomez8780]

I love how DH and DK are just a match for every single class.

[@SemperVII]

Perks of being hero classes. Kinda OP.

[@voiavictor]

I like that for a fact that you split the priest into two sub classes. Shadow and Holy/Discipline. I mean, SPriests do tap into void energy, wich arguibly at. high level could be more powerfull than fel

[@Doronsmovies]

Yeah they are pretty much entirely different classes.

[@TheFoeminator]

Victor Voia priests powers actually stem from psychic energy

[@limesinfinity6864]

for Q&A, What kills undead?

[@clarkamamangpang2032]

i love your vids!! :D :D :D

[@Doronsmovies]

Thank you, great to hear. :)

[@din1x26]

Doronsmovies wow lastly shadow priest and warlock uhhmmm did you miss something ohh yeah the monk XD you offended my main class how dare you XD

[@filipivanic1012]

Great job m8 ! You and Nobbel are by far the best experts in wow lore. It really shows that you put a lot of effort into making your videos. My opinion is that quality beats quantity , which in your case proves the point. So no matter if u make 1 vid per month , if they continue to be as great as they are , you will alway have a growing fanebase.

[@Doronsmovies]

Thank you man I appreciate it. Will still try to get at least 1 video a week. This one was really delayed due to the schedule getting messed up.

[@Diego-oq5ew]

nice job man

[@crazzyslappy]

TY for finally making this! can someone explain why bloodelfs are with the horde if they taught the humans and stuff?

[@Nerazmus]

play W3. or read the story down below. They were originally allied with the Alliance of Lordaeron (during 2nd orc invasion and Troll wars), this is the time when Dalaran was build. However then W3 happened and Arthas with his undead horde prrety much destroyed entire kingdom of Quel'thalas. In this time prince Kael'thas became leader and High elves started to call themselves Blood elves (in honor of all those who died there). But there was another big problem: elves were connected (and addicted) to magic and they were in search for more power. They were also trying to keep good relationship with the Alliance (they were really dependent on them). Unfortunately the commander that was put in charge of reclaiming Dalaran (Othmar Garithos) was terribly racist and he was pretty pissed he has to work with blood elfs. So he was giving Kael impossible tasks in hope to get rid of him. In response to that Kael accepted help of Naga and eventually allied with Illidan. However not all blood elfs went to Outland with him. Some have remained in Azeroth. Excited with their newfound ability to siphon mana from creatures of the Twisting Nether, the blood elves have managed to retake the land of Quel'Thalas. Silvermoon has been rebuilt and the resident blood elves there were trying to return to Outland, where they could reunite with Kael'thas and achieve the golden destiny he promised them. And with the opening of Dark portal during TBC they got their chance. Unfortunately, the decisions of Kael'thas to continually accept the aid of Naga and willingness to use fel magic have caused blood elves to be no longer accepted by the Alliance. So, the remaining blood elves on Azeroth looked to the Horde to help them reach Outland. Addiction to fel magics and the desperate search for a cure are things the Orcs are very familiar with, and many older orcs who've experienced similar addictions feel a kinship with the blood elves. Trolls were more careful about it, since they were in war with elfs all the time, but since Vol'jin is reasonable guy, they accepted them too.

[@Doronsmovies]

To sum it up. After the orc wars the high elves weren't a big fan of the Alliance with the humans. They did ally fully with them when Quel'Thalas was destroyed but Garithos (commander of the remnants of Lordaeron) ruined that when he attempted to execute them. The blood elves were a shell of their former society and through Sylvanas who was also once a high elf they joined the Horde.

[@crazzyslappy]

Doronsmovies Cool thanks!

[@Lucitaur]

Do one on *Monks*!

[@din1x26]

Lucitaur yes monks but why did he forgot monks on the video he said lastly shadowpriest and warlock what happend to monk I feel sad man this is not fair

[@SloopFTW]

so aren't all Warlock basicly mages using fell ,fire and voidmagic instead of Fire,frost and arkane?

[@SemperVII]

Their magic work in a different way, but the results are similar, although Fel magic is generally more destructive

[@ArngrimTV]

What armor is that on the human mage? love the collar.

[@savagesoultv9562]

awesome vid and I have a great time w your content tyvm I love fire mage is that bad?! lol

[@806DaN]

PLEASE, please! tell me what's the name of the musing at the begging of the video.. sounds like an alliance sound track, but I cant find it :(

[@Doronsmovies]

It's from the Caverns of Time, The culling of Stratholme.

[@Rodiacreed]

So in terms of raw destructive power which is superior fire mage or arcane mage?

[@TheCrimsonAtom]

Arcane I'm pretty sure, as Arcane is the raw power of the world, while fire is just an element. Of course magic fire isn't the same as an element, but you can do pretty much everything with the right amount of power. Also lorewise, there's only "Arcane Mages" as their fire is made out of Arcane and not friction and what not..

[@SwobyJ]

Normally Fire. Ultimately Arcane. Arcane has the higher potential, if the Mage can take it on. This is shown mechanically with Arcane being 'trickier' to handle while Fire is more straightforward power.

[@thecookiemeister5374]

How powerful are rogues?

[@alejandroderienosa4828]

The CookieMeister think that's solely skill dependent, I mean if they can get a clean shot at your heart and catch you off guard, doesn't matter who you are, your dead. (unless maybe your a demon...)

[@almightybushido4822]

was trying to figure out if i should main my mage or warrior, after doing the illidan sacrifice quest line and watching this, YOU ARE NO MATCH FOR THE TIRISGARDE

[@nikolapotpara7923]

Do Shadow Priests next please!

[@Doronsmovies]

I will do one video on the priests but will split it into sections as holy priests and shadow ones are drastically different.

[@nikolapotpara7923]

Doronsmovies Great,thanks,shadow priest lore is very interesting cant wait to hear what you think about them! Inace nastavi sa radom,super ti je svaki video,poz iz CG !

[@herbertgrunkin6333]

Your themes are so ####### creative

[@TheRagnaROCKANDROLL]

You see the mage casting the biggest spell ever to end you in one shot. Raise your shield and reflect it.

[@kademotionlesstheathiest1481]

Who are looked upon better? Shadow priests or Warlocks??

[@XrissXrow]

I just have to ask this question. How powerful are priests? Unless it was covered in another video.

[@mastersouth531]

Hm... I would say that they can be as strong as they are smart irl, I had a priest in my guild, said he was supposed to be a disc priest, but would whine about "shadow" and why he has it. When I tried to help him he said I was too OP, but he never used Holyflame((witch is one of the best things ever)) he didn't use shadow made from light ((even thou he was a disc, not a holy)). But I won't be so sure that shadow priests are that powerful, they are a bit insane and they use the shadow from the old gods/void lords

[@XrissXrow]

*gasp* I think you are right!

[@XrissXrow]

That is true. I think I might roll a Disc Priest, early game they are damn near invincible.

[@KorayKaplan07]

Could we get Hunters next?

[@Diego-oq5ew]

but does fire and frost magic from a mage come from arcane magic?

[@Forgotten_Shaman]

Mages can control the world around them using the arcane and use that very energy to manipulate fire and ice by just physcally controlling them, this makes their control over fire and ice also much more reliable if you think about the control that shamans have due to the fact that a mage doesn't have a pact or a contract with a "superior" being, they use the raw power of the arcane to control the material world.

[@Lupinemancer87]

Arcane is like control of the natural laws of physics, and by controling that, Mages has control of reality itself. This allows them to basically create anything from thin air as they so desires, and create forces of nature aka. Fire and Frost, but also other elements.

[@Nerazmus]

Yes it does. Mage fire and Shaman fire are two very different things. Mage uses arcane energy, temporarily transforming it into fire (that's what is mage during during casting). Same go for frost. Shaman on the other hand is using raw elemental power which originates from their own sources (eternal flame, ...). And that has nothing to do with arcane.

[@Diego-oq5ew]

ty man :)

[@mastersouth531]

also they come from the arcane school named Evocation, mages are amazing ! :D

[@SuperAntiPaladin]

Wait, where are the rogues? I didn't even see them on the listing...

[@mastersouth531]

Well, the fact that "fel is stronger than arcane" If you mean just power, yes, it it, but fel isn't so volatile, if the fight lasts long, the warlock would just not be able to use fel, thou it is more potent, the arcane is better for longer fights, as for DK's, I was looking for so much information about them. I have a Dk in my guild that sais that my spells don't do anything against him, then I founded out....saronite armor has small gaps.... perfect for evocation of flame

[@killeracura]

rouges next!

[@paumen9330]

Fel isnt better than arcane, the mortals are just not powerful enough to use arcane properly. Fel and arcane are like void and light a two sided coin.

[@Kainpound]

please do priest next, holy priests will never be combative but a Disc priest has the ability to defeat even warlocks or Mages through a battle of attrition

[@VaporProject]

DORONSMOVIES MAKE A VIDEO ON MONKS!

[@Doronsmovies]

Will get on it soon.

[@VaporProject]

eeyy thank you, keep up the good vids.

[@brankodimitrijevic382]

Azshara vs Aegwynn. who would win?

[@hannest486]

Branko Dimitrijevic azshara gets my vote 🎆

[@alejandroderienosa4828]

Branko Dimitrijevic Honestly I'd hate to agree but likewise Azshara is far powerful even without the well(Naga form) as when Illidan got his eyes from Sargeras, he was able to sense the aura of Azshara and the highborne, after which he stated that Azshara's power could rival Sargeras' own. Though that's what I remember from the lore videos I watch. Not sure if she got such a threatening aura after being given it by Sargeras or whether it was solely from the well.

[@brankodimitrijevic382]

Alejandro De Rienosa than why wasn't azshara helping sargeras and made his plan happen

[@alejandroderienosa4828]

Branko Dimitrijevic the story is like this. Azshara once upon a time ruled over the night elves and they were prosperous yata yata yata. During this reign she decided to work with the well through her highborne spellcasters during which cousilor xavius thought the wells best use was to purify the world in his own way. However tampering with the well, the world caught the attention of sargeras who craved it for himself appearing in front of Xavius making him believe Sargeras to be a God. when Xavius introduced them Sargeras seduced her with falsified vows as he bore no actual feelings towards her. Then his plan went into action, war of ancient happened, she along with her followers submerged in the depts and eventually sides with the old gods (there's actuslly no proof that they are working for the old gods but ye, that's the jist of it.)

[@alejandroderienosa4828]

I think a correction is in order in my first part, I think I'll need to research further how she became a Naga after a quick nap. As for her power, from what I gathered it was her own, and that is another reason why she saw a potential mate in Sargeras, as she finally believed she found some one who is worthy of her due to his power.

[@diegonicosia7690]

Do it with rogues!

[@matteospeedwagon8139]

Correct me if i'm wrong but aren't mages always decent but their power is very limited compared to other magic users like priests, warlocks and necromancers because they only really use their own power to use it

[@Doronsmovies]

It is true in a way. The main thing about power is that in order to get a lot of it you also need to sacrifice a lot. This is why demon hunters and warlocks are very powerful. In the case of mages there is a limit to practice it safely. (there is also a limit with fel, void to the point of losing your mind) However there isn't too much magic lore and it isn't described in detail on how exactly it works and what exactly students do to learn it. If it was just learning and time spent than the draenei would be light years ahead of the humans. There is definitely a big factor of mortal limitation and the source of magic. For example Jaina could almost overwhelm Orgrimmar with the Focusing Iris which is a very powerful orb, but by herself she wouldn't be able to even think about anything close to it.

[@matteospeedwagon8139]

Doronsmovies rad, thanks for the info!

[@viktorasgrviktoras4437]

priest next plsssss

[@piedrerol6877]

Love your content

[@antareklause8779]

Didn't do one on priests :(

[@gidelstarwind]

Hey what happened to your videos?most are blocked or private yet I'm subscribed. Is anyone else having this problem

[@PhilAtremo]

What about shadow priests?

[@fiffi5318]

I think the only ones who can beat a Mage in a fair fight are Warlocks, Deamon Hunters, Hunters and maybe Monks

[@genex1941]

"I smell magic in the air, or maybe barbeque" so is magic barbeque to mages xD? and one other thing: why elf's don't have pupils? all i see in their eyes is white and same for orcs.. well sometimes.. or is that magic? just wondering a lot..

[@carriewhite6995]

Disappointed there wasn't more subject on Draenei/Eredar mages, considering the ammount of time they've had to become intimately familiar and mastered in the Arcane.

[@Doronsmovies]

The draenei are really more of a light race than a mage one. They still use arcane but it isn't the center of their society like it was for the original Eredar.

[@Drashwins]

Give me some shamy ffs :P nice vid

[@alejandroderienosa4828]

Mages ftw, so what if our spells are limited because we don't sacrifice things, every superman needs his Kryptonite to keep things interesting for the reader :D

[@christianvillasenor5084]

Warrior is the strongest class. You forgot to mention that.

[@kraljboboslav]

Doronsmovies why do you call draenai skilled mages as erodar, erodar are corapted man'ari, and draenei are exiled man'ari, just pointing it out. The more you know :D

[@matiaq2629]

Eamenton No, you got it all wrong. Eredar are the first, Man'ari are corrupted Eredar and Draenei are the exiled Eredar.

[@Biouke]

You're inverting Eredar and Man'ari.

[@kraljboboslav]

Matiaq The Heavy Main ty for corecting me, thought it was other way around :D

[@Nerazmus]

In these days we call man'ari eredar, and they themselves call eredar. It's not hard to get confused. I don't even remember if the word "man'ari" was ever used in game

[@Biouke]

Mr.Vojtik It has been used in TBC notably, you can find man'ari mostly around the forge camps in Outland.

[@neo6492]

Pretty fucking powerful.

[@RemusNeo]

meow

[@alakas706]

Whu is not the blood elfs the dominent mage class? And you dint mensjon strong mages beside ashara

[@Nerazmus]

1. learn English 2. he said that blood elf are the best mages 3. There is not really that many powerful mages. Ok Jaine is good, Kael was really good, Anthonidas was quite powerful, but that is all. Medivh, Aegvin (+ other guardians) and Khadgar are something different.

[@mastersouth531]

Jaina created a really powerful transmutation spell, Mass teleport, in Dalaran you can find a book that sais that, also, and this is my favorite, the inventor of "Mirror image" died because even thou her illusions are perfect, they weren't good enough a diviner.... a shame

[@Nerazmus]

MasterSouth5 She also was given powers by Aegwynn. You know Medivhs mom, the ex-guardian of Azeroth.

[@mastersouth531]

Mr.Vojtik Oh I am a little bit confused about Aegwynn, Blizzard sais that Madan isn't cannon..... so... Is she still alive?

[@Nerazmus]

MasterSouth5 Well she almost died after giving her powers to Jaina, that is still canon. She then became her adviser. If Blizzard really wants her dead, they may say, that she just died in Theramore or even before - when she gave her powers to Jaina. With return of Medivh we may found out something more, but until then she is dead. And even if she is alive she is living her peaceful life in nice cozy cottage far from civilization and no one knows about her.

[@ZeusMasterson]

next one: how powerful are the backstab bastards (aka rogues)

[@Fafancina]

Isnt Khadgar/Aegwynn > Azshara

[@keelarian9567]

their power is boosted,but it is still unknown how powereful Azshara is now,but even in the War of the Ancients she was the most powerfull mage of her time,and with the transformation to naga from N'zoth,she is far more powerful,so maybe they're equal or Azshara is more so

[@Fafancina]

But if Azshara equals the powers of archimonde and kil'jaedan while Guardians were more powerfull then those 2 (I meant Medivh not Khadgar)

[@eiknaurjensen7927]

+Fafan Where is it said that guardians were more powerful than archimonde and kil'jaeden? And does it say that all guardians were stronger than them? And even if that is true, I'm pretty sure the thing about archimonde and kil'jaeden being a match for Azshara was said before she was turned into a naga, which made her even more powerful. Also why the fuck aren't you talking about Medivh? You know, the most powerful and most recent guardian.

[@Litany_of_Fury]

Bubble, stun and wack on the head. RIP.

[@oguzhankaygsz6667]

Primarch Alpharius If you think like that:ice block,whait till bubble ends,Arcane barrage.rip

[@Litany_of_Fury]

Oguzhan kaygısız Wait for the ice to end, stun, wack.

[@Makingthebullet]

Spellsteal bubble

[@Litany_of_Fury]

That doesn't work.

[@Makingthebullet]

You're not the boss of me.

[@timothymccormick3032]

some has a love affair with death knights and demon hunter me thinks

[@neonskycandy1925]

See that’s why I feel like mages in the game are SERIOUSLY done wrong, I think the term is nerfed ESPECIALLY ARCANE

[@OmDesk]

If i can chose wich class i would take in the real live it would be mage . I would save so much times and money tho xD

[@nikobelik224]

Khadgar is fucking op, In book iam reading he destroyed ogre mage like nothing, and crushes warriors of the horde by thousands. Warlocks did nothing compared to him...

[@Nerazmus]

Yeah they only opened planet portals, destroyed thousands of worlds, ... Were you ever in Shadowmoon valley (the Outlend one)? Did you noticed that big ass mountain in the middle? Gul'dan just walked there and raised it.

[@keelarian9567]

normal warlocks.....powerfull ones ,like Gul'Daniel are the kinda the maximum of warlocking

[@Nerazmus]

Keelarian Same goes for mages. Like Khadgar is most powerful mage in 10 000 years we know about. (Not counting Guardians)

[@eiknaurjensen7927]

Uuuh Gul'Dan?

[@Nerazmus]

Eik Naur Jensen Yeah how can we forget about in history Gul'dan the greatest mage

[@neurohackstv5723]

Lol, the 9 schools were just copied and pasted from D&D rulebooks.

[@senusalcrusader9757]

The caster could even blink😂😂😂 The blink ability reference

[@plutoniumlucky7590]

'vorlocks' sound powerful..

[@pjdalton]

on de woralt of Asser-Rot

[@sky321949]

four

[@sky321949]

four powerful

[@Kole2501]

yeah... mages that can mess up with time itself...

[@NotyourtypicalFaiz]

It's still a double edge ability, interrupt their concentration or catch them unprepared mages are vulnerable.

[@kroneexe]

I don't like to be edgy and evil in games, that's why I play an alliance holy priest, but warlocks are totally cooler than mages.

[@hattorihanzo_htx5752]

gj

[@chucklehead2000]

I cant run anything but a mage.

[@DabluCrew]

first

[@PlankaGuide]

how poerful are rogues?

[@notkj2040]

lol

[@ipneedly2286]

I Got My Training In my dreams.

[@JohnnyErnestoCampino]

Nerf Mages!

[@keelarian9567]

...Never ...nerf locks for destroying several mountains

[@Grizzly907LA]

Tell this to the dev's in regards to Warlocks.