DOUBLE the speed of ANY WINCH & run your ENTIRE TOURING SETUP at 24V!

[@leonkane8240]

Hi Great video I am pretty new to the world of winches. I like what you have done with the upgrade to 24v. I am a bit unclear about running a winch that has 12v motor with a 24v volt bank. So I am guessing that is just temporary & will kill the motor soonish. I would of thought you need a 24v motor ideally? But I wondered if some are designed for 12 & 24? I just have a Kings Domin8r but I have my sights on something better soon before getting myself into serious do do that the domin8r might not be able to pull me out of.

[@timmyhasheart]

I understand the confusion but no that’s exactly how that’s meant to be.. a 24v motor running at 24v will behave at exactly the same speed as a 12v motor running at 12v. It’ll just be drawing half the amps but the same watts. You gain the extra speed and watts by over volting a 12v motor to 24v. It can run forever like that provided you don’t let it overspin by letting it run at full boar with no load. As long as it’s used under load it’ll run just fine indefinitely at twice or three times the speed. A 12v dominator can also run at 24v and it’ll be twice or even three times as fast. As long as you are pulsing it while not under load. Any winch, actually any DC motor can do this and be fine. Thanks mate.

[@leonkane8240]

@@timmyhasheart Wow, you know a lot for a young guy, I am an older guy :0) I went & spent $1500 (trying to keep it budget on this vehicle - have another build that is more exotic & harder on the wallet!) on some bits & pieces, got all the heavy cable & an over priced non hydraulic hand crimper, your hydraulic one looks better. Watching you operate it looks like it would be good if it could be mounted or clamped to a base or bench. Mine is even more clumsy. I got an Intervolt DC to DC (only 12v) but on seeing your video I had a doh moment & wish I had of seen it 1st before I bought the intervolt. Been reading over both manuals thinking maybe I could just sell the Intervolt & get what you got, the extra cost is not really that much when you consider what you are getting. Thank you so much for your detail response. Someone had told me or I read it somewhere that I could run the Dominator on 24v but it was months ago & I did not take notes & was scratching my head all day (even burnt my googler out!) trying to figure out where or who told me that.

[@timmyhasheart]

I know Graham Cahill (4wd 24/7) runs his dominator in the shorty at 24v which you’ll find in his rig run throughs on KZbin, he’s talked about it quite a bit because the import GQ patrols already come at 24v. So maybe look up those videos and have a watch! No worries at all mate glad to help 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@leonkane8240]

@@timmyhasheart Thank you, I will check it out.

[@mikemorgan4670]

Nice work Tim. Clean and simple but such a gain.

[@timmyhasheart]

Yeah for sure, should have done it sooner really haha thanks mate 🫡

[@VantageAus]

Awesome video mate, been trying to get my head around how to setup 24V to the highmount on my 79 where there's zero room for a second 24V alternator. I'd considered a 12 to 24V charger but hadn't seen it done before so great to see you throw it together and show it works

[@timmyhasheart]

Yeah mate and tbh would be even better in a 79 cause your alternators are much higher amp 👌🏻

[@VantageAus]

@@timmyhasheart have you had a chance to give it a proper workout on 24V yet? What the run time like under load before you start draining batteries? Assuming you spec'd the Red Winch with air freespool, you'll love it. Absolute game changer for the high mounts!

[@harrywalker968]

@@timmyhasheart & a nose ring,,my god,,die your hair purple..

[@timmyhasheart]

@@VantageAus I haven’t used it in the bush yet but from the math, let’s say it draws 300a on an average winch, that means I have 20mins of winching until totally dead if the car is off providing no charge. But even in the $1000 track on the longest hill, I think at 24v it would only take 1 min to winch up it. Which would use 5a of my 100ah. With my charger running at 20a, it would take 15mins of driving to replenish that 5ah. Hope that all makes sense. 👍🏻

[@timmyhasheart]

@@harrywalker968 really? Upset about a nose ring hahaha

[@joesarrieto8434]

Awesome workmanship mate! Looks so neat… first of all would this system work for a low mount winch? And how do you think it would perform if so?

[@timmyhasheart]

Yeah mate absolutely, any DC motor can be overvolted and as long as it’s under load it’ll be fine. 🤙🏻

[@48Troll]

Great Video Tim Are you using a higher voltage alternator?

[@timmyhasheart]

It’s 100a atm next time I replace it I’ll get 130 which is the biggest you can get for a TD without going something custom

[@NISMO-OFFROAD]

Nice upgrade ol mate, Dan got you hooked up then lol he is a legend

[@timmyhasheart]

Yeah bloody oath! Yeah he’s a legend mate, always happy to help and provide help 👌🏻👌🏻 cheers mate

[@NISMO-OFFROAD]

@@timmyhasheartim building turbo TB because of Dan just started watching tylers new uploads your fixing the diff lol

[@taztraceztreks2135]

You can't beat highmount winches. Built strong. Looks good Timmy'

[@timmyhasheart]

Cheers mate!! Yeah they’re bloody mint!

[@JoshuaBT]

Awesome vid mate channel deserves more views, ya better than the 24/7 blokes by a long shot

[@timmyhasheart]

Appreciate the kind words mate 🙏🏻🙏🏻 slowly growing we will get there 👊🏻

[@JoshLove14]

What relay did you use for the charger? Installing mine in my gu coil cab right now and remember you saying you used a relay in your gu video

[@timmyhasheart]

Redarc supply a relay mate!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@Bush-Tv]

G'day Tim, Great video mate straight to the point. Ill be looking at something similar in the future. Keep up the great work mate cheers.

[@timmyhasheart]

Highly recommend! As someone said in the comments it just makes the winch sound as it should, really wakes them up! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@Bush-Tv]

@@timmyhasheart 👍

[@Bush-Tv]

@@timmyhasheart thanks for the reply mate 👍

[@Jeremy.huntnzld]

Awesome watch mate , always enjoy watching here in NZ , outta interest do ya have a link for that crimper ya use ?

[@timmyhasheart]

Awesome mate thank you glad to hear it!! Yeah dude not sure if links work in comments but it’s here: www.ebay.com.au/itm/321751825966?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0&ssspo=ZcsTdIUQRR-&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=8oLbWhTNQZq&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[@jimsbbqs4320]

Mint video, make sure you put the jumper cable between the 2 batteries ontop of the 2 cables to the winch, movement and abuse will make them chafe, possible fire issue down the track.

[@timmyhasheart]

Yeah rogie thanks mate, every live cable in the whole system is double insulated, sometimes triple insulated and heat shrinked, and every live has fuse protection so I’d be pretty unlucky but I’ll have a couple of fire extinguishers 😅

[@rangabanga32]

think about a lock nut on top of the wingnuts or replace with nyloc.i had a hilux with similar underbody battery tray.the holddown clamp came off and shorted across the battery terminals.i was driving and I could here what sounded like an arc welder under the car and my dashboard lights were flickering.i was lucky to pull over and throw mud at the now flames to put it out.isolators and fuses wouldn't have helped in this case.its pretty unlucky though and ide guess rare

[@rossco3775tv]

Bloody awesome mate 24v so good, feels like how they're meant to be really. Recently went the redwinch supercharger box for my GQ wagon, works well too couldn't fault it after good test on Wombat Flats in April. . Reckon the Cobra will be pretty amazing keen to see how she goes.

[@timmyhasheart]

Cheers mate 🙏🏻🙏🏻 yeah 10000% it feels like it just wakes them up! Yeah I meant to talk about the 3rd option, going to a booster box/supercharger box but once I started talking about the DCDC I forgot 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@leeramsay3497]

Hello mate, you mentioned a fridge, are you running that off the 2x12v agms? My understanding is they don’t like that very much? Not being critical just curious

[@timmyhasheart]

Yeah in series so it’s running the Engel at 24v. Engel fridges have a switch in them they can be run off 12 or 24, like most DC accessories, doesn’t harm anything 🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@liammasters6177]

Love the video mate helped me heaps with my 24v set up I’m about to do, I know this is a long shot since you painted this 7 months ago but what battery’s are you running in this

[@timmyhasheart]

Awesome dude glad I could help, the batteries are a Full River HC110

[@liammasters6177]

@@timmyhasheart thank you mate your a legend love the work

[@jake-coombs]

You will love the new winch they are awsome 😎👍

[@timmyhasheart]

Yeah nice heaps keen 🙏🏻🙏🏻 the old warn will do until it gets here haha

[@jimmyd6819]

Good choice lad, the enedrive dc dc is fantastic option for s tough weekender Ive got a 24v travel buddy 24v fridges 24v compressor

[@timmyhasheart]

Yeah nice, my fridge can run on either so that was easy, and yeah just need to organise some solar. 🫡

[@jimmyd6819]

I had some dramas early on with the alternator struggling to keep up, after i did a hard winch the enedrive sorta like paniked and was pulling max amps out if 12v and it was dropping to 12.3 volts with spottires n heater on Once i read the manual and worked out how to drop the amps down was fine, solar is great too just hard wire a panel in the enedrive defects curent turns on and charges

[@timmyhasheart]

Yeah I have mine set to 20a (40a @12) and if the alternator struggles I’ll go from my 100a to a 130a alternator. And yeah I intend to add solar just don’t want to have a roof rack so deciding how to do it.

[@lileeky1]

Hey mate love the content just have to ask what’s with the navara badge

[@timmyhasheart]

Cheers mate 👍🏻👍🏻 Ahh just a inside joke mate, I used to drive a Navara a few years back.

[@rollyb5061]

awesome Tim, very well explained

[@timmyhasheart]

Cheers dude, glad you enjoyed!! 👊🏻👊🏻

[@jmac822]

That's a cool 24v system from outback, simple setup. The new winch coming should looks sick Tim👍

[@timmyhasheart]

Yeah it should be good!! Will be the ultimate test when I go on a trip whether the batteries are enough and the charging amps are set to enough, might need to go to a bigger alternator is the only thing.

[@jmac822]

@@timmyhasheart true, ya may need a bigger alternator. Knowing your driving style you'll put her to the test mate.

[@slunnie]

12v to 24v, such a great idea. Same with the battery mounting. I love your work. I've installed the Warn 6hp motor on my highmount, yet to be used, so I'm keen to see your upcoming winch build video to work out what I have to upgrade before breaking it. I notice high mounts come standard with the 6hp motor now and are rated as 10,000lb, it'd be intereting to know what the factory changed or upgraded with the bigger motor and if those are interchangable.

[@timmyhasheart]

Thanks heaps mate, appreciate the kind words 🤙🏻🤙🏻 building them is just about addressing a few things that warn didn’t do that great, such as the free spool, normal recreational use I wouldn’t worry about replacing anything too crazy, but winching a lot in Tassie mud, with heavy rigs and 24v it’s definitely a good idea to take care of a few things wrong with them. I’ll try and be clear when I make the video what really ought to be taken care of as necessity and what’s probably more so only if you’re going to 24v. Thanks again mate 🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@slunnie]

@@timmyhasheart thanks for the taking the time and for sharing such great info!

[@robertwalsh2780]

As all ways great vid the patrol is a weapon 👍

[@timmyhasheart]

Haha thanks mate 🙏🏻

[@ClaytonCookpanda]

You'll like those batteries. I run ONE those Fullrivers under the bonnet as my starter / everything battery. Running to highspeed Runva low mount - upgraded all cables to 75mm including to control box - -thing is fast and powerful. i've done a heap of trips including up north Old Coach Road etc with it as my only battery running 2x 40 litre fridges - one set to freezer. I've recently swapped into my new chopped GU TB48 - including the winch - done a couple of competitions and the open class lads have even been impressed. I want a single motor Red Winch next, but they are expensive and the little Runva has been too impressive so far. They accept a good amount of power - so running off the alternator keeps the amps up in high load conditions. The most impressive battery for winching i've had is the DCS80 extreme - but the BMS couldn't handle when the winch stalled out in heavy comp winching and would reset and take 30sec - it's now under the bonnet in my 200.

[@timmyhasheart]

Nice mate!! Glad you like them I’m keen to try them out properly I’ve just setup some solar to help top em up to to give some of the alternator back to my car battery so I’ll see how it all goes when I go away! Thanks for the info 🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@ClaytonCookpanda]

@timmyhasheart you have a lot more mud down there for winching, I can't really justify it yet and for weekend warrior class only allowed 12v single motor, no air spool. The runva can take airspool, but I haven't bothered. The overrun is the only issue, which the red winches don't have. The full river with steel case was something like $700 for one, so they're not cheap!! Running big cables seemed to be the best move. Doesn't seem to matter as much for normal winches I guess because of gearing they aren't pulling as many amps

[@williamdistel2661]

Really like your content, mate. Keep it up and I hope you get some good coin.

[@timmyhasheart]

Thanks mate! Will keep it up as long as I have stuff worth sharing! Glad you enjoyed

[@MrDattopet]

Definitely good to see some tassie you tube

[@timmyhasheart]

Cheers mate 🙏🏻🙏🏻 Tassie represent

[@backyardshenaniganshighcou1747]

Cheers bro that was super helpful. You just answered my own question how to improve my winch

[@timmyhasheart]

Hahaha nice 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@scotthunter1639]

Mad set up Timmy credit to you buddy!! Neat, explanational content 👌

[@timmyhasheart]

Thanks heaps mate glad you enjoyed 🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@48Troll]

Is an Allbright isolator not big enough for the purpose?

[@timmyhasheart]

I just looked em up didn’t even know they existed dude but yeah 800a at 22sec it says they are, they’d be perfect 👍🏻 I did one of these cause I just got all the shit together from outback equipment. 👍🏻

[@NickyB5411]

Sweet video mate 🤘🏽

[@timmyhasheart]

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed 🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@richardwalsh5570]

Awesome video mate, Super

[@timmyhasheart]

Cheers mate glad you enjoyed!!

[@lukeprowse3180]

Sick vid as usual how do you think your battery being under the tray will last being open to the elements and getting swamped etc? I’ve got a duel cab with no room to mount a duel battery setup I was thinking about putting one under the tray on the coil tower brace but I do a lot of mud water and general shit and not sure if it’ll just give me problems putting it in there cheers bro 🤟

[@timmyhasheart]

Yeah I dunno it’s no different to being in an engine bay tbh, my engine bay turns brown whenever I wheel mud so I can’t see it being too much of an issue, most trucks have batteries mounted externally to the cab but if it’s an issue I’ll address it 👍🏻👍🏻

[@lukeprowse3180]

@@timmyhasheart yea true I’ll chuck mine down there to and give it a go haha

[@fedvoxavoxa]

Legend, looks mint and tidy

[@timmyhasheart]

Cheers mate! Yeah come up awesome.. it’s hard to tuck away wiring nicely when you run a heap of gear haha

[@Rightomate]

Awesome vid mate.

[@timmyhasheart]

Cheers mate 🫡🫡

[@williamjohnson8267]

Curious if you considered doing it the other way round ? Just running a 24v alternator and having your crank battery charged off a dc charger

[@timmyhasheart]

Na I haven’t actually, an interesting idea though for sure! I wonder if anyone else has done it? Seems like a more efficient way to do it really

[@williamjohnson8267]

@@timmyhasheart yeh less amps required for the charging side of things and an alternator would keep up with winching too. Probably more expensive though

[@timmyhasheart]

Yeah it’s not a bad idea at all, really I’d love the whole car at 24v, the wiring for it is sooo much more efficient and you can avoid relays and big wires etc because everything is much lower amp, most products these days including my fridge runs on anything 9-30v anyway

[@williamjohnson8267]

@@timmyhasheart td starter on 24v would definitely spin the old girl up in the morning

[@TroubleMaker4WD]

Definitely the way to go , Single 24v 140amp alternator and then a Daygreen voltage reducer going 24v down to 13.8volt at 120amp

[@WEEKENDER4X4]

Thats awesome as. I always wondered what the best solution would be to run a winch on 24v. Mint video mate 👌🏻

[@timmyhasheart]

Thanks mate, appreciate it 🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@NathanNostaw]

Bet that's going to be a huge improvement. 12v for winching is always asking alot of the poor motors. What was the reason you deleted the free spool?

[@timmyhasheart]

Ahh in the Warn 8274 video I talk a bit about it but essentially the 2 achilles heels of a Warn High Mount are 1. The free spool is unreliable and can pop out when you don’t want it to and 2. The brakshaft is unreliable and can pop out or break or pop the circlip off under tension so they’re the 2 main things I change when I’m building one. 🤙🏻🤙🏻 And yeah all my recent videos I’ve been using the 24v system and it rules 👌🏻👌🏻

[@luked237]

Mate great video👍

[@timmyhasheart]

Awesome mate thank you 🙏🏻

[@Livn2xplore]

My fte cruiser runs twin start batteries already. Would that work easier with a 24v winch?

[@timmyhasheart]

Umm, I actually took out my twin cranks when I went to this setup, I believe with that setup you could maybe use a supercharger box? Look up Red Winch Super Charger.. Links up current batteries you have to run 24v out to the winch. I meant to talk about that as an option but forgot.

[@Livn2xplore]

@@timmyhasheart ok will do thnx

[@peterb4970]

Nice video, great content

[@timmyhasheart]

Awesome mate thank you 🙏🏻 appreciate it

[@peterb4970]

Hope that isolator is a water proof one. I have to say I have been very interested in the red winches did you opt for the XL drum? Just not sure I can justify the cost. But love the design of them, hopefully many years of trouble free winching

[@timmyhasheart]

Yeah it’s a marine one so even the studs etc are marine grade stainless but I guess we will find out, but I’m not above whacking a bolt through the lugs with some eleccy tape to get me out of a bind either ;) Yeah just the standard drum mate, that’s what extensions are for ;)

[@philemonripin1190]

Nice content again timmy,u and dan kistler shud really do a hardcore track,maybe throw jesse gleeson with the m57 gu into the mix🍻cheers from borneo

[@timmyhasheart]

Sounds like a god damn plan to me!! Already been chatting with them about a wheel 🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@crunchied8]

how is the cobra winch going

[@timmyhasheart]

Yeah good so far mate, only really used it hard in Victoria, not many places to winch here in Tassie in the summer!

[@crunchied8]

@@timmyhasheart I am going for a reds winch 24 volt as well just better over all I will be doing it in 2008 Triton thou with supa slim lithium batteries

[@timmyhasheart]

If I could give you some advice I would recommend the hornet over the cobra 👍🏻

[@crunchied8]

@@timmyhasheartI have to go the explorer 2 24v need the lowline 1

[@markleon7076]

I wood like to see a engine rundown your engine does not seem to blow sort to see how you went about it Tim

[@timmyhasheart]

Yeah I have it tuned pretty conservatively mate, I used to run a fair bit of power but after 2 snapped cranks I dialled it back a fair bit. But yeah I’ll do a run down of the cars life and include the engine work 🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@triggerhappy8872]

Keep’m coming 👍👍

[@timmyhasheart]

Trying mate 🥵😂

[@dylantaylor8931]

Wouldnt it make more sense to run a 24v alt, 24v starter, 24v main batts. Then use the dc to dc for everything else 12v That way you can actually winch off the batteries and alternator together instead of effectively winching off that little dc - dc and batteries that are in the tray? The cost of the 24v alt and starter should be offset by the seperate 24v batt bank and larger longer cables. Just an idea. Im not a winch truck guy so actually have no idea

[@timmyhasheart]

Na I have thought about it, it’s handy cause you’re starting with the most volts for the most volt intensive tasks and then trickling down the voltage for the less volt intensive tasks so it makes a lot of sense and something I’ve definitely thought about and has been done before just without a DCDC, you can step down or draw from 1 of the batteries for your 12 stuff. But this is just the way it’s done by most, if it’s a dedicated wheeler/racer I’d go 24 alt but tourer/weekend wheeler I’d do the 24 Enerdrive. Another good thing about the Enerdrive is it behaves like a charged battery anyway because as long as the Enerdrive is running it’ll float the battery at 27.2 or if it’s in bulk charging it’ll hold it at 29.4 even with load, so it’s not like you’re winching off just an unplugged battery, you’re winching and the Enerdrive floats voltage to compensate load. Appreciate the question & comment mate, I do know of 1 car right now that runs like you’ve suggested and that’s 17_Dmax on Insta, a mate of mine he runs his car solely on 24 alternator and steps down V for the car. 👍🏻

[@dylantaylor8931]

@@timmyhasheart OK sick. Yeah it does seem to make a good amount of sense to keep vehicle simply at 12v. The only concern was that if you’re pulling a few hundred amps from those batteries from long or multiple pulls then soon rather then later I imagine you would basically be running the winch soley off the dc to dc, effectively. But you already addressed that and I admit, of course, I dont know what your car is built for or how you use it but it got my electrical brain thinking haha. But like I said I’ve never been around winch trucks so just really curious. Really appreciate good content and your response to my question. Genuinely learning something and having a good community is what YT and social media should help about. Cheers

[@timmyhasheart]

Oh definitely mate, I’d never use the winch long enough to ever flatten the batteries, so I have 2 110ah batteries banked to 24v, and with my twin motors I could draw around 500a and so I could winch at that for like 12min, but with 24v you’re never ever ever winching for 12min, because the winch is so fkn quick you’d be lucky to winch for 30seconds and then because my charger is set to 60a 12v (30a 24v) you charge that back pretty quick. The most winching I’ve ever done is my 13hr trip through $1000 track, and we had Milwaukee batteries, headlights, lightbar, vehicle & music running from the 12v car and charging phones, drone, running air compressor for the lockers and winch, running my fridge and winch all from the 24v and my front battery voltage with alt was never below 13.8 and my rear batteries never really floated below 27.2 and below 22v under winch, but mostly charged at 29.4. And we were hanging from the winch all damned day, or moving trees with it, that’s actually my most recent $1000 video with “13hrs” in the thumbnail, But yeah again dude thanks for picking my brain about it, appreciate the interest and would definitely be interested in a 24v to 12v setup 👍🏻👍🏻

[@merinofarmeragriculturewor4623]

New to channel mate .. looking forward to check out your channel 👍

[@timmyhasheart]

Thanks mate welcome 🙏🏻

[@merinofarmeragriculturewor4623]

@@timmyhasheart Cheers mate

[@bennyjahmin3953]

Let us know what you think of that cloth tape in a years time if you have to strip any of it off. I regret doing my whole loom behind the dash in it. It is so sticky and gross now. Skid factorys recent video on wiring mentions this too and Al said he wont be using it again.

[@timmyhasheart]

Haha yeah right, thanks for the heads up! I have used it here and there over the years but with this job In the end, if you see the snap shot of the final product you’ll see I didn’t actually loom it all up in it, I just had each cable in its own conduit and then screwed it to the frame with P clips 🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@rabbit3115]

Very tidy mate big fan

[@timmyhasheart]

Awesome man thank you 🙏🏻

[@chrissmith-ck8cn]

looks like you use your winch alot .u only charging 30amps .alternator outputs? 120 amps . i think u may have a problem with batterys going flat

[@timmyhasheart]

My batteries total 100ah and 1100cca at 24v. The winch draws let’s say 300a which means I get 20mins of winching until batteries are flat. The place where I winch the most is wombat flats ($1000) and at 24v, because you’re winching MUCH faster , a bog hole might take 20-30 seconds to winch? A bad hill might take 1 minute to winch? So with the above math at 20mins of total winch time let’s say I do a 1 minute winch for a bad hill which means it uses 1/20th of my 100ah which is 5ah leaving my batteries at 95% after the worst winch I’ll do on the $1000 track, and with the DCDC set to 20a 24v (40a 12v) it will take 15mins of driving to charge that lost battery power. (You can set the DCDC at the click of a button between 5, 10, 20 or 30.) All that is also ignoring that solar, and alternator charge is also adding to it at all times. And the DCDC is also load sensing and compensates when it detects high loads by adding additional charge. As for the alternator, it’s 130a. So even with the DCDC set to max, which is 30a at 24v, 60a at 12v, that leaves 70a still charging the cars battery which is actually the original factory amperage of a TD42 alternator. Keeping in mind that the car’s 12v battery now has 0 amp intensive tasks.. only has to crank the engine and run the lights and radio. All winching and compressor for tyres is through the 24v system. I’d never get the 24v batteries dead as above, but if I did, the only crap thing is that at 29.2v charging at 30a it would take just under 3hrs to charge the batteries back to full from dead flat. Hope that makes sense mate 👊🏻 I’m not the first to run this system btw, it’s tried and tested but also if I have issues I’m not the type to hide it either, I’ll take you guys on the journey to optimising it. 👍🏻

[@rohanarchibald5853]

The enerdrive won't last long in tassie mud

[@timmyhasheart]

It’s up pretty high, if I have mud inside the cab level with the top of the rear doors I reckon I’ll have much greater issues than no 24v 😂

[@rohanarchibald5853]

There are much better options out there than the enerdrive for a 12 to 24 volt charger that handle the mud and water that a 4wd can encounter

[@timmyhasheart]

@@rohanarchibald5853 Personally I disagree, these are an in-cabin system, and it’s in the cabin, up high… and these systems are tried and tested by several people I know in the winch racing scene. And out of the 24v alternator option, the Supercharger/Booster box option and the DCDC option, this was the best suited to a tourer, as I can run solar to it also and it ends up being like any DCDC dual battery system. They also have features whereby they won’t go into limp mode like others when experiencing big discharge like winching for example. and the enerdrive is the go to for anyone I know in the racing scene that goes down this route. 👍🏻 I’m all for learning but at this stage you haven’t suggested an alternative. Just that I choose wrong supposedly.

[@rohanarchibald5853]

Gsl do a water proof version and redarc also do one with solar input I've been racing for years and seen what mud and moisture can do to anything electronic. I've been running a12 to 24 dcdc for a few years in my gu and in my opinion gsl is much better built. I've done a full write up on it on the highmount page

[@timmyhasheart]

Hadn’t ever heard of the GSL, but looks like it only outputs 20a no adjustment, Enerdrive can do 5-30, I did look into the redarc one though but was told it would limp out if you winched too long because of some kind of protection. where as the first name on everyone’s lips that I trust was Enerdrive straight up. That being said though I have no loyalty to the brand - If I ever had any reason to turf the enerdrive I’ll be sure to include that in a video too and why I changed it. I’m all about transparency and learning. But yeah typically speaking I’ll go with testimony from those I know over comments on the net type thing. Appreciate the knowledge mate

[@simonburnby]

Sooo your charging your 24 volt system at 30 amps ???? …….that runs your winch ?

[@timmyhasheart]

Na I have it set to 20a at 24v at the moment which is 40a at 12v. If my front start battery doesn’t suffer too much I’ll set it to 30a at 24v, which will be 60a at 12v. 👍🏻👍🏻 Just nutting it all out atm, It’ll take time to figure out whether I need a bigger alternator but working so far 👌🏻

[@trickster8635]

Don't know why you would bother with 24 volt electrics on a GQ/GU, which are designed, from factory for PTO winches? Perfect vehicle for a PTO set up - factory even offered an option. Thomas, Ramsey, Powauto all can be fitted. Faster and stronger than electric - and eliminates the electrical gremlins inherent with water and electricity. If you want to really get creative - why not run the PTO drive with hydraulic motor and have front and rear hydraulic winches. As long as you have fuel in the tank - winch all day, no more failing batteries.

[@harrygibbs-hughes4820]

Can’t have drive to the wheels and drive a pto at the same time

[@timmyhasheart]

Wouldn’t even bother replying to him he does this all the time. May as well be muttering to himself

[@harrygibbs-hughes4820]

@@timmyhasheart yeah awesome

[@trickster8635]

@@harrygibbs-hughes4820 You can do, especially if you have reduction gearing fitted to better match wheel speeds. Does depend on what you are driving on though.

[@bogan1as]

​@trickster8635 I had a PTO winch in my old cruiser it sucked was shithouse sat lower couldn't have the bar I wanted. Electric winchs especially 24v ones are heaps better

[@anbu999]

Does Patrol really need a winch ? Do you really want to rescue those Toyotas ?

[@timmyhasheart]

Hahaha unfortunately it’s for me mate, I must have got a dud Nissan cause mines always getting stuck! 💀

[@brentmcd12]

this is a good mod ! my winch is compatible but they didn't provide the extra wiring to do it when i was installing it . the load chart was slightly different too I thought ? 🏞️🛻📹🤙😎

[@timmyhasheart]

Any 12v motor can be over volted to 24 volt!! 👍🏻👍🏻 just a matter of whether you want to do it or not 🙏🏻