DOUBLE TROUBLE [Noctigon DM1.12]

[@itachii267]

"A little less fancy" man this video was top notch as always and you not giving yourself enough credit. Thank you for putting in the effort that you do!

[@LuxWad]

Haha thanks, glad you enjoyed it

[@patrickhdsn]

Man you have a real talent for production/technical reviews.

[@xerxestelevision6666]

Jesus dude, whether you stating a fact or sharing a personal opinion, you’re just so damn reasonable! I really appreciate the effort you put into these, you are a major contributor to my knowledge of flashlights.

[@thomasbechard]

I really appreciate how restrained you are with praise in your reviews. Even when you really love a light, you don’t make it seem like it’s the best thing that has ever happened to you. As always, beautiful video!

[@artiet5982]

I have to agree here! I've never commented this, but I think it every time I watch one of Lux - Wad's reviews. He is definitely unique among most any other review channel for that. I really appreciate that. I wish more channels would point out some of the flaws more like LW.

[@thomasbechard]

@@artiet5982 oh hi, Artie. Your KR1 is at my house recently delivered and I’m stuck at work…

[@artiet5982]

@@thomasbechard oh that is the worst lol. Hope you're enjoying it now!

[@ToyKeeper]

I finally cleaned up the K9.3 firmware today, so it can do tint toggle, tint ramp, and other stuff, all in one build... instead of two separate builds. I don't actually have a K9.3 or DM1.12 though, so I'm not totally sure everything is calibrated right... like the ramp shape. Still trying to work out where to put the transition point between linear and DD FET on this and the other dual-linear-plus-FET build. For now, I set it at 110/150 on K9.3 and 130/150 on the generic build, but I'm not sure if that's how it should be. It really depends on the power ratio between the regulated and direct-drive channels.

[@LuxWad]

I’m just leaving on a trip and won’t be able to try it out for a bit but am excited to give it a go, I recently got an M44 and K9.3 to play around with and have been wrapping my head around the new methods of switching channels. Keeping all those builds straight must be a pain 😅

[@joancan665]

Ready to get my first hank but those 519A's need to hurry up

[@tidaktahusaya1427]

Still waiting Wurkkos AA/14500 prototype and hoping you can review it with your awesome skills.

[@LuxWad]

It looks like an awesome light, I'd love to review it!

[@adit5611]

@@LuxWad 1'st batch was released sir with announce in BLF.

[@TopDog8762]

Most excellent review and you hit the nail right on the head. I would love to see a host that could perform both throw and flood exceptionally. As tech evolves perhaps one day we will see that. But more importantly, for the time being, I really want a thrower that does not build up so much heat that you only get 3 - 5 seconds of true peak performance. Enter the LEP flashlights, lets see where that takes us. I very much appreciate your excellent comprehensive reviews.

[@asdf52708]

THIS IS THE BEST FLASHLIGHT CHANNEL ON KZbin! So glad I found this

[@thomasbechard]

Been waiting for this!!!!

[@mishmash4891]

What a phenomenal review LuxWad...you consistently out do yourself every time

[@1fareast14]

Got mine in recently: -overall a solid flooder, meh thrower for the size, but versatile - actually, 219b would be the better choice means less current per led, and efficiency between emitters converges. - went with sft40, might swap to w2 for better tint, as the spill lumens and wider spot aren't needed with the flood channel - the 'same spill size' seem to be a bigger issue with sbt90. With sft-40 and sst-20 there is a clear division of labor. Even more if you use dc-fix or remove some optics -26800 tube is nice, but heavy, and I actually like the 21700 tube balance and thickness better for my small hands - don't do 6500k and 2700k sst-20 mix, it's swampy to the point of headache. Tried bc I'll be modding anyway. Should have gone with X-pg2 to start with

[@Mandalorian_Man]

I've been looking forward to this

[@LuxWad]

My channels have doubled since the last time we met

[@meta_username]

@@LuxWad Twice the channel, double the quality

[@slydogstroh]

Personally I’d rather dual carry separate lights for this functionality. The throw on this looks really similar to my Acebeam L35, and then I pocket carry my D4V2 for flood. Still, it is cool concept and I get why people would want to check it out for themselves.

[@tjackman]

What a lovely review, really encapsulated it perfectly! As much as I want one, I might have to get a d4sv2 w2 and a dm11 sft40.

[@1fareast14]

8:11 this is why I was skeptical about the sbt90 for this light. It does both flood and throw, sft40 seems like a better choice. Also, won't the floody/frosted d18 optics work on the second channel?

[@LuxWad]

That's a good question, I believe the D18 optics are a little too large for this light

[@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou]

I was considering the sbt90 on this one or the the new mini or dm11 but I'm not sure anymore $50 is a lot

[@1fareast14]

@@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou Dm11 makes more sense for that emitter. It competes with the lumintop x9l at that price. It would depend on what you already have. How big of a light do you want, how far does it need to go, and how wide of a spot do you need?

[@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou]

@@1fareast14 I want it to touch the moon. 😶😇😅

[@1fareast14]

@@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou An LEP or a laser sounds more like your speed

[@Wolfiegangs]

Nice editing, great cinematography, crispy commentary, you got me to get one. In stone white too. 😅

[@artiet5982]

Great video! I was looking forward to seeing somebody get the set up with the sbt90.2 . Interesting setup. Couple notes for anybody interested in different LEDs for the flood channel- Hank recently sent me a thinner o-ring (clear) for the bezel and the xpl-hi fit much better now. So if you buy one variation and plan on putting other LEDs in it like I did make sure to ask Hank for the clear bezel O-ring. Thanks for the photo credit 👍🏻

[@LuxWad]

Thanks for letting me use the photo! And thanks for the extra info, that's good to know

[@artiet5982]

@@LuxWad anytime! I'm stoked that the photos were helpful in such a top notch review! I really enjoy all of them.

[@apcwjw]

Great video. I love my dm1.12, it’s a w1 and st20 in 2700k . I see mine as a thrower with flood as an extra function. I’m using it camping in Glastonbury ( Somerset, England) this weekend.

[@LuxWad]

Sounsd like a great config! W1 is definitely going to throw very well in this light

[@ayokay123]

I'd definitely take a D4S with single channel W2 as a better compromise flashlight. Awesome review, btw!!!!

[@das_enk]

Just got my W2 D4S two days ago and I wholeheartedly agree.

[@kanehoward7050]

As always, your videos are perfect!

[@DaciaAlba]

Love the white color. Interesting looking with the flat head. Loved the video, especially the beginning.

[@wadefulp]

You can now get 519A emitters for the flood. Anyone know what the total lumen output would be if paired with the SBT90.2 for throw?

[@mannybalingit9767]

Excellent review. I bought this light because of it. But the one I received had a defect. One of the LEDs in the on/off button was dead. Getting concerned about the quality of the manufacture and if other components were not soldered properly. Hoping for the best.

[@LuxWad]

Sorry to hear that :( Did you email the company for warranty? I've noticed the lights in the button of my DT8s are a bit uneven, so I'm not super surprised to hear of defects like that unfortunately. Hank is really good about fixing issues like these so I hope it can get resolved for you

[@mannybalingit9767]

@@LuxWad Yes I did. I sent an email to Hank directly and the "fix" he offered was to refund back $10.00. I guess the trouble of shipping it back is not worth the hassle. But it certainly gave me pause as to the quality of manufacturing that he puts into his lights.

[@christamu2]

Wow talk about timing. I just ordered a white one with SFT-40 + 219B about 30 minutes ago. I've had a green one for a couple of weeks with a W1 + SST-20 4000K and it's a great light even though the SST-20 isn't quite as floody as I was expecting.

[@cjmerobot1204]

I just noticed you can now get the flood ring with dedomed 519As for $49.95 more 😀. I always end up with more flashlights when I watch your awesome reviews.

[@LuxWad]

Glad you like the reviews! 519a would be really awesome in this light

[@ayokay123]

@@LuxWad What's the main advantage of the 519a? Higher CRI? What would be your choice if high CRI doesn't really matter?

[@LuxWad]

@ayokay123 519a is high-CRI, has nice neutral tint with minimal tint-shift, is bright, efficient, and has a nice floody beam. It's also easy to dedome which is a bonus. Even if it weren't high-CRI it would be a top choice - otherwise LH351D and XP-L HD would be nice choices, but they have the same large dome as 519a so they might not be possible here either.

[@ayokay123]

@@LuxWad Thanks!

[@lophophorawilliamsii9740]

Im sure that cheese grater knurling also helps with thermal management. I love the look of it.

[@brokenlegz]

Start of the video I was thinking so what’s the point of the dm11. Then when you started talking about beam quality and how the spill really doesn’t change… the dm11 starts to make sense again 🤔🤔

[@BrackDynamite]

Excellent as always my man. I know you mentioned stripping back your reviews due to how time consuming they were to make but I've not seen any drop in the extremely high bar you've already set for yourself. As for the DM1.12. I'm unsurprised at the lukewarm review. The dual channel lights are cool but too much of a compromise IMO. I think the DM1.12 would have worked better as a sodacan light, but I can also understand why Hank modelled it after the DM11, he's released like 4 different designs in the last year including updates for older lights. I'm surprised he's been able to keep up with the pace he's going. After awhile only being able to thermally sustain 4-600 lumens is great for something like a D4V2, but for a more expensive light like the DM 1.12 it is a bit disappointing but also unsurprising considering the sheer complexity at work here. I'm on the fence about it and I may or may not pick one up, you've convinced me the SBT-90 may be the throw channel to go for though! I'm Impressed with how well it performs; the beam profile is really nice behind that big TIR.

[@dariocarafa3788]

When I see these reviews they're always fantastic but something that I don't see people doing is testing just like a medium high level. It's always start off at turbo and see where it goes from there but what if you started off at like a thousand lumens what would the sustain look like then and would it be able to hold a thousand lumens for a long time since it wouldn't be initially heating up so hot? Maybe people have done that and I've just missed it but a thousand lumens is quite bright especially for most anything you're going to do and then having the option for turbo when you need it seems like a good balance to me rather than just starting off on turbo having it heat up hella crazy and then struggle to thermally regulate to a comfortable temperature

[@LuxWad]

Thanks for the feedback, the reason I don't do those tests is time. Look at zeroair and 1lumen reviews, they test every mode. I don't do tests for the lower modes because it's extremely time-consuming and rarely reveals anything of interest, most modes below Turbo are just flat, unless the light had a poor driver, in which case Turbo will still reveal the inadequacy.

[@dariocarafa3788]

@@LuxWad okay so when you use it somewhat reasonable level like 2000 and below or maybe a thousand and below it is fairly sustained?

[@dariocarafa3788]

@@LuxWad because personally as cool as the turbo modes are I rarely need it and I would rather be able to have the option for a turbo if I need short-term illumination but would much prefer a mid-high output of you know 800 to 2000 that is very sustained

[@LuxWad]

The sustained Turbo level should be the highest possible sustained output, so if it sustains ~500 lumens for example, then you can set it to 500 lumens without stepdown, maybe a bit higher on some lights

[@lisovyj]

Дуже приємне відео, дякую за вашу роботу. Неоднозначний ліхтарик, я б собі взяв D4V2 та DM11. Але однозначно цей колір надзвичайний, хочу білий D4V2.

[@LuxWad]

Yeah I really hope more Emisars/Noctigons will have the white color option in the future, it looks awesome!

[@abel6575]

With the SBT90 is it possible to turn on both cables at the same time? And does it have a ramp you dye? Sorry if it's something you already explain in the video, but I can't fully understand it because of the language

[@LuxWad]

You can ramp between both channels if you use the tint-ramping firmware

[@abel6575]

@@LuxWad And how do I get that signature? The one that comes as standard is not Anduril 2

[@LuxWad]

It does come standard with Anduril 2. If you want to order the tint-ramping version, email Hank directly at contact(at)intl-outdoor.com You can also reflash the light yourself with the desired firmware if you have the necessary equipment

[@abel6575]

@@LuxWad Thank you very much for answering!

[@jeff13686]

Between the Emisar lineup, which one has the most thermal mass to sustain the longest runtime on a higher setting for like camping

[@LuxWad]

The Dm1.12 and the D4SV2 have a good amount. The K9.3 and D18 have the most but I haven't tested them. For sustained output the D18 will be the best

[@norbertdanner8579]

Hi, your videos are always fantastically made. Thanks for that. A lot of time has passed since your presentation of DM 1.12. Hank now offers the DM 1.12 with a Flood channel with Nichia 519A 5700K dedome+. No LH351D. Would this variant of 519A 5700K dedome + with SBT 90.2 (or 5000K, 4500K, 3500K, 2700K dedome +) be your favorite? The color temperature of 5700K dedome+ can drop to 5000K or 4500K according to users. Do you know if the small problems mentioned in your video have been fixed? There should now also be the possibility of tint/shift mode. Best regards from Austria.

[@LuxWad]

I am not sure if I think that makes this light much better honestly, because dedomed 519a are throwier than the floody domed 519a and LH351D emitters. I don't think they would be a great pairing with SBT90.2 - however, I do think 519a DD would be a pretty good match with something very tight like SFT40 or Osram emitters

[@norbertdanner8579]

@@LuxWad Thanks so much

[@westsenkovec]

I would like a D4V2 in that white color. Just don't know what emitter (combo maybe) and boost driver or FET 😫 Maybe white body and azure LEDs and cyan switch. Or colored Osrams to make it look like a light saber.

[@LuxWad]

White D4V2 would be amazing... I would go with deep red SST20s and a red button ;)

[@twrcrew8852]

I wish there were ANSI FL1 charts for these lights. I want to know TEH SPECS. Like ok it's a flood and throw, but how many meters throw? I can't numerically compare it to the more industrial brands out there. I'm currently stuck between this and the D18. I don't like 18650s because I started with 21700s (except a bunch of flat to 18650s i stole from power tool packs I ripped out) yet I can't tell which ones actually better. I also can't tell where this light slots into the mix.. d4k better or worse? D18?? Which LEDs are the best? the website does little to guide people out of the know to get the best light we are looking for.

[@LuxWad]

I definitely wish there were more detailed specs available for these lights. I have compiled a list of specs as tested from various reviewers here: budgetlightforum.com/t/noctigon-thrower-comparison-specs-kr1-dm11-k1/69864/2 It's not complete but it might help a bit

[@twrcrew8852]

@@LuxWad sweet. Thank you!

[@voidvakarian8219]

So would you say that a dual channel D4SV2 with Lh351D or 519A then W1 on the other channel be a budget option that probably performs relatively similar? I have one right now with 26800 tube and LH351D/W1 and I just don't think this light will be better enough to warrant that hefty price. Also amazing video as always Lux!

[@LuxWad]

Yes, I think that would be a great budget alternative, and probably more practical overall. The DM1.12 will be brighter, and the throw channel will definitely perform better, but I don't think spending the extra money is really worthwhile unless you REALLY need that extra reach

[@voidvakarian8219]

@@LuxWad Hey Lux coming back to this comment now a couple months later since the light is currently on sale. What are your thoughts on it's value now that it starts at $88?

[@LuxWad]

Honesty I think it's an awesome value at that price, especially considering the work that goes into assembly. It's definitely worth trying out!

[@voidvakarian8219]

@@LuxWad I do need a 10th Hank for my subreddit flair 🤔🤔🤔 Lol Thanks for the quick reply 💪

[@mikafoxx2717]

519a, 219b, maybe e21a with a W1 is probably the best high cri flood + throw when wanted. Nobody really needs super high cri throw anyway. High cri shines in the flood. 519a, sst20 or lh351 is best for high cri all-rounders.

[@brightlumenshop5261]

Hello, Is there setting that stops the auxiliary lights from changing colors? I just want the aux lights to stay on one color. Thanks

[@LuxWad]

Yes, there are 7 single-color options and 3 color-changing modes

[@brightlumenshop5261]

@@LuxWad Thanks for the quick reply, do you know how to change it, I tried to follow toykeepers instructions but it doesnt seem to be working. I did the seven clicks and nothing really happens, it goes into the throw mode, and the light just locks itself, am i doing something wrong ?

[@LuxWad]

Did you switch to Advanced Mode? When the light is off, you press 10 times and hold. Then when off you press 7 times and hold, it will cycle color modes, and you release on the setting you like

[@brightlumens1538]

@@LuxWad im about to throw this thing away 😂😂😂😂😂

[@barronhelmutschnitzelnazi2188]

How is this vs a Wurkkos TS32 that has a SFT40 and 12 LH351D?

[@LuxWad]

Honestly I have no experience with the TS32, I can't really say. That light certainly seems to be a better value, and will certainly have better runtimes since it uses multiple cells. It doesn't use Anduril though, which might be a big deal

[@terratec1001]

How is the battery charged? Via USB port on flashlight, USB port on battery, or a dedicated charger?

[@LuxWad]

A dedicated charger is required

[@jody9548]

Love your videos!

[@nriyo3]

Would it make sense to get deep blue on ch1 and deep red on ch2 flood?

[@LuxWad]

It would make sense if you wanted something weird and fun

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

This young man is well on his way to becoming a stodgy old man 😀👍

[@LuxWad]

Kids these days and their flashlights, back in my day we walked uphill both ways in the dark relying on our 4D maglites, praying we'd get there before the batteries leaked

[@bartekstepien278]

I have one with XP-L HI 4000K and SFT40 + D4SV2 FET firmware and it's awesome :)

[@Qwertystick]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@THEPLANETEARTH]

Why you not have millions of subs 🤬

[@LuxWad]

Lol I don't think there are enough people who like flashlights... hopefully the channel grows over time though!

[@THEPLANETEARTH]

@@LuxWad 😁

[@THEPLANETEARTH]

@@LuxWad you should review the sofirn sp40a 4000k

[@cmfall1986]

Well crap. It went on sale today. I couldn’t not get one.

[@LuxWad]

Honestly it's great at the current sale price, I wonder if they're even making a reasonable profit right now

[@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou]

There is just too many choices ☹️😬

[@ChalliceofLight]

This is Hank's worst light, IMHO. It has zero appeal to me.

[@LuxWad]

TBH I think the K9.3 is worse, it doesn't have a very logical design as both channels have about the same intensity. At least the DM1.12 has a big difference between the throw and flood optics.

[@Francois_Dupont]

music is very bad.

[@LuxWad]

What do you not like about it?

[@Francois_Dupont]

@@LuxWad too repetitive. i am talking especially about the first track used (and also used later on in the video). ex: 0:20 the left/right channel high speed clickety noise. i know it is the modern style of tracks now, but after 30sec it get on my nerve.

[@LuxWad]

@@Francois_Dupont Well thanks for the feedback. Finding music for these videos is quite difficult, I only have the royalty-free KZbin library to work with. The music in this video was definitely repetitive, I wasn't super happy with it but it had to be completed so I could move on to other projects

[@Francois_Dupont]

@@LuxWad i understand. i suppose most young people love those tune anyway so its a safe bet.

[@karlizen4990]

Pretty overpriced for what it is.. gimmicky dual channels.. not really bright flood, inefficient drivers, and no built in charging

[@LuxWad]

It's expensive but considering the complicated build and the high quality, it's priced very fairly... the question is whether the actual functionality is worth the money (I'd say no) I am glad it doesn't have built-in charging though, it would just add unneccessary cost and complexity when most enthusiasts don't need it

[@cjmerobot1204]

@@LuxWad I don’t need the built in charging but I like it when it’s there because it makes a better gift to a semi-flashlight enthusiast if they aren’t set up with chargers.

[@SodiumSyndicate]

Waste of money.

[@LuxWad]

Not a waste, just a poor value. It makes sense though if you just want one enthusiast-style light to do it all.

[@SodiumSyndicate]

@@LuxWad It is so big & expensive, you might as well buy 2 smaller lights (flooder+thrower) for less money & also for redundancy.

[@LuxWad]

Yeah, I said that in the review. I agree. That doesn't mean this light is a waste, it just has a different purpose, and that there are better options for many people.