The New 2022 Toyota GR86 Is Better (And Faster!) Than Before

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2022 Toyota GR86 review! Today I'm reviewing the new 2022 Toyota GR86! The GR86 is completely redesigned compared to the old Toyota 86, and I'm going to show you all around the quirks and features of the GR86. I'm also going to drive the new 2022 Toyota GR86, and I'll show you what it's like behind the wheel.
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[@Ultranium1]

Doug is the type of guy who makes two separate reviews of BRZ and GT86.

[@mikegaravani7309]

Well this is the sunday review for a reason

[@matthewsmith218]

Now this is a premium comment 1 doug score😺

[@JordanBlue1]

Well because the GR86 looks way better

[@uscars9207]

Because one is Toyota and the other Subaru, so 2 different cars - that's why! XD

[@SenzuLean]

@@JordanBlue1 fax

[@LaniakeaDenizen]

I like how at 12:58 Doug says he's flooring it and a VW sedan is overtaking him at the same time.

[@Fastboi69420]

Dub gang or don’t bang

[@camilstoenescu]

At least that's not your usual VW sedan, it's a Phaeton.

[@Fastboi69420]

@@camilstoenescu no it’s not, it’s a cc… probably with a tune and also flooring it if Doug is actually flooring it there. But just a 2.0tsi no w8 or w12 there.

[@legostarwarsrulez]

Could also be a VR6. Those can be peppy. But they’re rare.

[@venomous0229]

@@MD-uu5nt found doug's other account

[@fullmandella]

Doug is the type of guy who still gets excited over heated seats, while wearing a t-shirt under his t-shirt

[@jimsmith8797]

I used to be a double tshirter 😞

[@TheStereoField]

Never trust a double-shirter. You know they’re already lying to themselves about something…

[@nickiminaj6921]

@@TheStereoField 😂😂

[@lauragrace3270]

For real who wears double t shirts like wtf

[@angelyuan1404]

I think that’s a garment under the t shirt

[@litlemidgetful]

I bought this car after my 2021 Mazda Miata was totalled in a flood. It's great and I would absolutely recommend it to anyone who enjoys driving a car with good handling. It's not particularly fast but that's not why I bought this car (nor the Miata). I considered a Supra but it was too heavy and too expensive. If you're watching this video because you're actually considering buying one, I say go for it because I don't think you'll be disappointed, as long as you're aware of what this car is good at (corners) and what it's not good at (being fast in a straight line). It's amazing how even though it weighs 400lbs more than the Miata, it still handles just as well/delicately.

[@MB-ms3ud]

Definitely true. I test drove a Hyundai Veloster once. ~150hp but it could do donuts like a motorcycle. Two types of fun you can have with car, unless you can afford a Ferrari that can do both.

[@16xthedetail76]

It can go fast as well, with mods.

[@litlemidgetful]

@@16xthedetail76 depends on your definition of fast. So far I've only seen i believe HKS offering a supercharger kit that's supposed to give it about 330hp. That'll make it much quicker sure, but still not particularly fast. Anyone could spend similar amount of money on an American V8 and be wayyyy faster. Any serious power upgrades to the BRZ would require upgrading almost everything else (clutch, transmission, differential). Not worth the money making this particular car fast. It was built for a reason and being fast isn't it

[@potatooolatke]

We had the 370z and currently a GTI. Fun cars to drive but completely different to the 86/brz and miata as they are more power focused. The 86 and Miata are just super fun to throw around as you really don't need a lot of power on public roads.

[@gengarphantom6967]

@@litlemidgetful I WOULD love a Hellcat or even a scatpack.

[@La-yt1wr]

I’d choose this over the BRZ, but I already know Toyota dealers are going to mark these up compared to Subaru.

[@hellbent9672]

Sadly your probably right :(

[@mizzta21]

Dealership in Oakland marked their WRB brz 10k with added options totally to about 48k. Ridiculous

[@gemininy1211]

@@SpawnKill4Fun fake news. This is an incredibly easy platform to work on and it's been out for almost 10 years

[@Retronyx]

poggers

[@zcmdzpp127]

Same. who cares..

[@sockself]

It's an entry-level sports car, turbos add complexity and price. Making it less accessible to beginners. I think Toyota understands that modding community for their cars is great for brand representation. They're providing a platform for both beginners and the enthusiasts who would increase the power regardless of its starting point

[@BD-te7sl]

Good point, they had the same philosophy with the Supra. All the aftermarket modding is massive advertising.

[@rubbertoe.]

would be great if they just put the lexus 200t engine in it for better reliability, and have a turbo that everyone's asking for

[@wun1gee]

That'd be a reasonable point if Ford and Honda weren't putting turbos in $20,000 econoboxes.

[@rubbertoe.]

@@wun1gee there's a difference between a turbo for gas mileage and a turbo for performance

[@wun1gee]

@@rubbertoe. is that why Ford's getting 250+ horsepower and 277ft/lbs out of a 2.0l 4-cylinder?

[@Gobblessamurica]

I got a 2024 base, last Saturday, it’s the nicest car I’ve ever owned by a long shot. I just made the break in 500mi yesterday and got to get out of 4k rpm for the first time. I almost cried, never felt so joyous and alive. Worth every penny, tons of grip.

[@pauld.b7129]

When he says nobody's gonna use the back seat,I just think of high school when my buddy would pick up 4 of us

[@nicholasw.3488]

“Creates a little hole, and you can try to stick yourself inside” -Doug DeMuro, 2021

[@steveguzman6141]

Daddy Doug has a very naughty mind lolz

[@kobaltseven]

I was like WTF DID HE JUST SAY???!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@markdempsey9099]

That's how little Dougs are made.

[@Gaudine]

@@markdempsey9099 do you think he has sex?

[@markdempsey9099]

@@Gaudine after reviewing their quirks and features then giving them a "Doug score" I'm sure he's a 40 yr old virgin 😁

[@Zippy306]

13:00 - VW driver is like: "Yeah, that GR86 could use some more power"

[@keiranspence1648]

I saw that too! “I’m flooring it” and getting gapped by a VW 😂

[@TheDarkPacific]

I mean it was probably a V6 with 20 hp more lol

[@legostarwarsrulez]

The VR6 CCs are actually kinda rare, it’s most likely a 2.0 turbo, which make about 200 horsepower since they’re tuned for efficiency. The VR6 bumps it up to 280 though so it might be. And if it’s got the AWD option with the V6 then it’ll just scream up an on ramp lol

[@IGetModerateSleep69420]

It’s probably the twin turbo Jetta trim

[@KB-bh9hp]

@@TheDarkPacific It was also a heavy passenger sedan out accelerating a sports car lol.

[@Toymonkeyjr]

I usually don't like watching dougs videos for a mechanical pov of the car, it's usually more interesting to see him explain the quirks and features, but this time he did a really good job explaining the differences between this gen and the last gen even though most people just think it's simply +.4L to the engine and new exterior. Also like doug said just slight 30hp boost would make the car perfect, luckily you can get close to that amount with just some bolt ons and a tune.

[@misc3741]

By the way, I think I know why T O Y O T A and S U B A R U won't put a turbo on this thing.. From the first 86, the GT86, there never was really any focus on power, instead they opted for better handling performance. Speed was never the priority, which is why when people want it to make it speedy simple bolt-ons would already be enough.

[@ndoboalan1596]

This is the most detailed car review I have seen to date! Where have you been all this time Dougy? Most KZbinrs just review the driving aspects. This GR86 review is as good as going to the dealership and viewing the car yourself. All that would be left is to simply go for a test drive of the car.

[@ilik3pie]

The reason they tend to put Alcantara on the bit above the gauge cluster is because leather and plastic *can* reflect light and sometimes be distracting (it's usually not a problem, but in a lot of higher end sports cars that are intended to be driven on race tracks and have drivers that cannot be distracted, it can make a difference). Alcantara is a comparatively more expensive material to source and work with than pleather, plastic or real leather, so it isn't often found on the cheaper versions of sports cars

[@doublestrokeroll]

which is weird because Alcantara IS plastic. People are suckers for a name though.

[@FatCokMcgee]

@@doublestrokeroll Why is it weird? It's a high quality fabric, that looks awesome, feels luxurious and is perfect for certain applications such as stated above.. It's made from plastic products bit is not a solid piece of moulded plastic. Carbon Fibre is also a plastic but it's five times stronger than steel and twice ad stiff.. But I guess people are just "suckers for a name" huh?

[@doublestrokeroll]

@@FatCokMcgee lol....If you think polyester is the same as carbon fibre, I'm not sure what to tell you. Take Ultrasuede, change it slightly, slap a new name on it and act like it's a "premium" product. Yep...you ARE a sucker if you think Alcantara is anything special. Created in 1970. Nobody wanted it until the name change. Yes, it makes sense for certain applications when you're sweating in a racing seat but cut the BS of thinking it's some kind of high end product. It's polyester.

[@dohmies77]

@@doublestrokeroll and carbon fiber is just carbon, what's your point.

[@FatCokMcgee]

@@doublestrokeroll lol... Alcantara is 68% polyester and 32% polyurethane.. Carbon Fibre is made from 89% polyacrylonitrile and 10% Rayon. ALL PLASTIC!!! I don't what to tell you because you obviously take the short bus around town but it's not the ingredients that make a product like this valuable... The production process and end results make it worth a lot more than a Lego block. You probably also think that a forged CNC machined wheels or engine blocks or engine blocks are no better than an a cast version because they are both made out of the same melted down soda cans but just have fancier names hey 🤔 Yeah I'm sure it was the name change that made the difference mate... 🤦‍♂️

[@TimurIskhodzhanov]

One of the interesting quirks is that the GR86 has a very usable numeric gauge for the oil temp, while the BRZ has an unusable "analog" style gauge.

[@InSaN3ViSioN]

Oil lol

[@sheperd6768]

It took me a second and I had to rewatch the brz vid to see what you meant. Admittedly I prefer Toyotas as well even though I ordered the brz. I wonder if there’s a flash out there that one can do to switch it to Toyotas version.

[@nico3727]

@Oy Vey get one from a dealer with lifetime drivetrain warranty

[@Wirgah]

@Jewish James Bond fortunately, engines blowing up is my kink, so you’ll bet your ass I’ll be looking forward to every engine blow

[@se7enspac3s]

​@nico3727 they are denying claims because the cars are blowing up on track, specifically around right corners.

[@revelationsoundstudio]

Very good review. I hope they sell alot of these cars. It's hard to find cars with a stick shift these days. I drove the older model and it was fun to drive but the extra power on the new one makes me more motivated to buy one

[@thdremily]

every time Doug utters a sibilant consonant the speakers of my MacBook give out just a subtle, but very distinct buzz that taps along to the rhythm of Doug's speech. So Soothing.

[@MountainHobbler]

I love @ 12:57 the VW that blows right past him as he is talking about the lack of power.

[@sneksnekx]

had me rolling

[@snakeeyes9246]

Perfect timing. What are the odds that he saw it coming up on him in the rearview mirror?

[@pushslice]

TBF, a lot of this is the non-driving-enthusiast guy driving the Toyota...

[@camposjesus3725]

This car is so shit lmao Another example of a wannabe sports car that you'll see a bunch of broke dudes riding around in all over SoCal trying to race you at a stoplight.

[@bngr_bngr]

Everyone was passing him.

[@GR4Corolla]

Hey Doug, the Alcantara on the gauge cluster helps with glare vs a plastic one that would reflect onto the window. Hope that helps!

[@brinesilver405]

Can confirm. can be pretty annoying at certain angles of the sun with my 2016 Model.

[@GeeEm1313]

I was thinking that.

[@Clone895]

I had my HUD bezel in my Camaro wrapped in Alcantara to cut down on glare. Not perfect, but way better than before

[@Dante_S550_Turbo]

@@thomassmith6027 A vampire who designed the 86

[@oneoffnate]

@@Dante_S550_Turbo yooo😂😂😂

[@Coffee-nb7un]

I think I would rather have a naturally aspirated engine in the GR86, as much as I'd want it to have more power. Aside from the price, naturally aspirated cars simply have a more natural and communicative feel to them, which I think is better considering that this car puts more emphasis on handling and the way it drives rather than power and acceleration.

[@dmullen6996]

How could get this to add 50-60 more whp without boost?

[@Coffee-nb7un]

​@@dmullen6996 A few ways of doing this would be increasing the engine's displacement, installing high-performance parts, fiddling around with the ECU, etc. If you still need some boost after the tune, a supercharger (particularly a roots or a twin screw) would do the job without really messing up how it responds.

[@omranmkv]

NA will sound like a disturbing fly

[@Coffee-nb7un]

@@omranmkv Subies typically have UEL (unequal-length) headers, which give them their distinct boxer rumble, so you can try installing those if that's the sound you're after. Otherwise, go with EL headers. They'll give you a smoother, high-pitched tone.

[@Coffee-nb7un]

@@dackbowland1876 the formula for engine displacement includes bore, so increasing that should give you more displacement (I suggest looking for a professional tuner or engine builder if you want your engine rebored). When it comes to the engine itself, I personally think it's best to leave it alone and not tune it in the first place. The car is good enough for me; I don't really need anything else from it. But if you really want the power, you need to make sacrifices. You might be speaking from an efficiency or reliability standpoint, but someone looking for a good project car to tune and race might not care if it means better performance.

[@jonathanreid507]

Awesome! You have the perfect personality for this Doug!

[@fckSashka]

Naturally aspirated, rear wheel drive, manual AND it looks great! What else could a car enthusiast ask for? :^) Edit: + it’s affordable for a sports car

[@KiwiPokerPlayer]

40 more HP.

[@Zippy306]

I'm sooooo glad they didn't stick a turbo on the engine!

[@kingoftampa]

Tbh its a flat 4, no one cares that its NA. Lol

[@Planag7]

For it not to be a Subaru...

[@redd1th]

@@Zippy306 why? NA engines mostly shine if they're v8 and a little less so if they're v6 but for a flat 4, a turbo is prob good to have.

[@Eternalmotors]

Missed quirk: The gauge cluster is the same shape as the engine!

[@PerryPapanier]

He also missed it in the BRZ review

[@julienxie1110]

And in the startup animation there's the cylinders path :)

[@josephkorger]

I have owned this car for 2 years and didn’t even know 😂

[@hidalgojavier96]

Pretty basic car: just a big engine, low weight, rear wheel drive, LSD, manual transmission and a central screen with android auto for playing spotify and google maps. That's all I need, so with a good price is a great car and I love it

[@Brcelini]

I don’t got a android tho

[@omegadaboi]

​@@BrceliniCarplay too iirc

[@Snuffy165]

Just got a 2023 premium Halo white a few days ago. Loving it so much. I. So glad I got the manual. ❤

[@chrisl5711]

This looks like a fun car to drive and fun doesn't always mean fast. If I were in the market for that type of car I'd get one.

[@Gaudine]

Nissan Z

[@chrisl5711]

@Tyler haha yeah driving fast is always fun...for the driver. Lol

[@VirtusRacing]

@Tyler have a 250rkw rx7 fd and i have more fun on the road in my stock mx5. usability matters which is why this gr86 will be great

[@brandonleesanders]

These are for 16-29 year olds. My maturity won’t allow me to buy one…

[@mikefitzhenry7535]

True but I think not having a turbo is holding this car back at this point. They put turbos in everything now why not in the sports car?

[@InterstateRaziTV]

Doug is the type of guy that has literally forgotten the password to his second account More Doug DeMuro.

[@Traxxmaciek]

But this isn’t a second channel video?

[@syedammarkhalid3695]

Nah mate he mentioned it multiple times that he tried the second channel, but he wanted to keep the vids in one place so they don't get mixed up. It was something like that

[@AD-ui6sk]

@@syedammarkhalid3695 I think it was more of a money thin the videos werent doing well on there compared to here so he just started uploading everything back on here

[@cerisem7727]

@@Traxxmaciek No lol. He made a video months ago explaining why he hasn't uploaded videos onto his second channel, with him explaining he forgot his password. If I recall correctly, he was making multiple videos for future uploads and during that time he forgot.

[@Traxxmaciek]

@@cerisem7727 no. He has explained that KZbin algorithm is good enough now to upload two styles of videos on the same channel without it having a negative effect. And he gets more views on the “lesser” videos by uploading them here

[@thewillofthepeople4615]

That's a nice car , I was behind one the other day sounded peeeerfect.

[@chrishack6825]

Another great review Doug. My Nephew has just ordered one, I'm sticking with my GT86 at the present, we are so lucky to still be living the dream on these fun cars.

[@PetarPetrov-89]

How does that work? You go to a dealer and tell em you want to order one?

[@alkonaut9985]

@@PetarPetrov-89 Impossible to get one of these as of now. In Canada, where I am, wait times are anywhere from 6-24 months. Now if you want a manual, you would have a better chance at winning the lottery.

[@muthukumaranc]

The Alcantara above the instrument cluster might potentially minimize reflection/glare on the windscreen.

[@giulioposenato9332]

Thought the same

[@elsteezus]

Most definitely

[@elsteezus]

@Ivana Notyers shield/screen.. same concept, same thing.

[@EssOneFive]

@Ivana Notyers America is not the only country

[@muthukumaranc]

@Ivana Notyers British English for windshield

[@forthebetter1996]

Coming here right after watching the Lucid Air video… I have to say, it’s impressive how Doug can be equally enthusiastic about a car having heated seats in 2021 as he is about a 170k EV having a key fob with no buttons 😂

[@jacksonlandry4797]

another perfect review. Thanks doug

[@chicomichel4507]

Love the energy bro!!

[@wun1gee]

I love how the gauge cluster is designed to look like the retro digital dashes from the 80s. That's a nice touch.

[@TrickShiftGarage]

I think it looks a lot better than the original.

[@give_me_my_nick_back]

by the og did you mean ae86? xD

[@MacroEnabled]

I think modded versions of the second gen won't look as good as modded versions of the first gen

[@slimhardaway8]

I would immediately throw a Widebody kit with a big Wang on it

[@Domi39]

I agree overall. I just wish they had kept more of the rear end from the first gen. I think it was good looking and distinctive. The rear end on this new one kinda looks like a Hyundai Genesis or an S15. Both of which I don't love from behind.

[@KB-bh9hp]

To be fair, that's not saying much, the original was incredibly dull looking for a 2 seater rwd sports car. It's the first car I've seen that looks boring, even with a widebody kit and flashy wrap.

[@stpspeedlab1]

Got mine this week! Can't wait to break it in and rip it around!

[@nikolaspanousopoulos7794]

I like min 13:03 when the VW passat passes him going twice as fast while Doug is "flooring it"

[@thomasmaddox8688]

You can very clearly see that he let off the gas before being passed

[@Traxxmaciek]

Everyone just wants more power but then complain about it being expensive. You can’t have both

[@parissmith5727]

You can't have both and have something that's also easy to work on, reliable, and somewhat fuel efficient with regard to the weight/ power ratio. Hyundai/ Kia try, but they're never going to have the same rep as Toyota, Honda, or even Subaru and Mazda.

[@StEvEn420BrUlE]

They could offer a turbo trim

[@arvinshaygan8643]

The Veloster n with the sport pack was the same price with ~40 more hp before the recent refresh

[@MrMegagti]

The Camaro 2.0 is cheaper and a whole second faster.

[@reverbxd]

@@MrMegagti but then you're driving a Chevy

[@lukethenuke7538]

Another cool thing about this car is how that massive torque increase is put down at very low rpm, at 3700, which is awesome and way better than 6600 rpm like the older model, so there's not that empty grey zone in accelerations. Very awesome car and I really want one!

[@surviver5738]

I watch this video every few months to keep me motivated to keep saving for it

[@KosmicTrap]

Doug the typa guy to browse cars and bids

[@markymarc12]

11:00 "People have been begging for more power in the FRS and BRZ for Asians..." Can't unhear it.

[@CupraRoemu]

😂😂

[@YasssStitch]

My favorite Honda was 2016 Accord Sport 2.4L 6MT, no turbo, no nothing. 189hp and it drove amazing. It's not about how fast you get from stop light to stop light. It's about the in-between. It's more fun to drive slow car 10/10th than fast car 5/10th.

[@Sithene]

it's better to drive fast car 10/10ths than a slow car 5/10ths. it's better to drive a fast car 5/10ths than a slow car 5/10ths.

[@xformant]

I just bought a 2008 Honda Accord v6 for $5000 flat. Condition is 9/10, lots of upgrades, with 268HP and 248 Torque. Super fun. Gonna use it as the family cruiser.

[@xformant]

@Roberto Vidal Garcia Everyone knows that so I shouldn't have to include it in every conversation. I've been a mechanic for over 20 years dude

[@mcwaff8661]

@Tyler then just add a supercharger or turbo, toyota doesn't have them on bc it'll mark up the price too much which won't make it a beginner friendly car.

[@ralph02136]

not how it works 🤣 it's more fun driving a fast car 9/10 times but if you have a slow car with a manual then u can still enjoy it. But that doesn't make it more fun than being quick

[@minayoshikimura7204]

That's so cool, it's mesmerizing just to watch.

[@RayanMADAO]

Getting the base model seems like a bad deal when the premium is only 2k more with those differences

[@patricklinkous]

I think the base model makes sense for tuners who are going to change the wheels and seats right off the bat. Otherwise the Premium is a no brainer.

[@ramk2443]

Base is for modders who will replace everything

[@keon5779]

Some people just prefer a more basic car. I would go for the base model because I don't want the spoiler or the Alcantara or the dual zone climate control.

[@signal_yellow]

Some of us actually prefer the cloth seats, smaller wheels, and smaller spoiler of the lower trim level.

[@patricklinkous]

@@signal_yellowI usually prefer cloth seats as well, but I want to see how the Premium seats feel with the Alcantara.

[@daftthepunk]

Oh yeah!been waiting for this reveiw

[@limevideos4996]

excellent review!!!

[@Icureditwithmybrain]

OMG a perfectly round steering wheel! Beautiful.

[@-kyoto]

"Styling is improved over the old one" > Same styling score as the old one

[@MarcoElkes]

Yeah well a whole extra point puts it in another League. He just said it’s improved not drastically better.

[@guardianlamb9962]

help me out here im not a car guy but ths looks the same as the subuaru brz? wtf they are the same looking

[@troytruong8246]

@@guardianlamb9962 same designers. They are working together to build this car.

[@carlosandleon]

@@guardianlamb9962 the front is different.

[@alsatch_]

I’m just here for ‘THIS’

[@BeyondDestiny]

12:59 "I'm flooring it right now" Volkswagen Passat: "Oh really?"

[@pableez32]

The rear of this car looks like an Aston to me. I love the new look. Wasn’t a big fan of the original design. This looks a lot sportier 👏🏻

[@miketorguson]

Another solid review! Nice to see the 22, 86 finally has same HP as an 04 RX8 🤣 it’s got the RX on torque but 0-60 … hard to touch the 9k+ rev limit! Love the channel Doug!!

[@rotor13]

Still makes more torque than the RX-8 ever will.

[@Klassyy]

Its got as much HP as my 04 acura lmao

[@LaKuan]

Lmao 🤣🤣

[@brenrocks2966]

With half the Fuel usage of the Rx8 and a donk that dont go BANG 💥All of a sudden 😜 BTW My Celica Revs higher than my Rx7 did!

[@miketorguson]

@@brenrocks2966 9600 RPM fuel cut off on the RX bro no way your Celica topped that! Although the gas needle would move in the opposite direction with each rev 😂

[@jeremygore1865]

Hey Doug, the alcantara gauge cluster hood is to prevent glare. A race and exotic car common feature. So, nice they offer it.

[@pentagon2386]

It would be sick if they gave it the 2.4 turbo and detuned it to 250hp and made a cool trim “turbo” package with 80’s style decals and stuff

[@areebanavaid121]

I guess people who buy it can mod it and add their own turbo

[@Jdalio5]

Give them some time

[@spacetimearchitect3318]

Sexy car! I'd love to have one! You really cant beat the price point compared to all the other standard cars out there now that are starting out at 30-40k.

[@Sepjn]

12:59 Flooring it and the VW passes by no problem!😂

[@detectivedank3832]

Lol came here to the comments to see if anyone else had noticed

[@crw164]

Can you not hear the throttle lol

[@mckevrock]

I thought the VW was making that sound at first.

[@macdonald2k]

He let off the throttle halfway through.

[@ytsux9259]

He slows down at that point; he floors it for like a couple seconds and lets off. There's no way in hell a Passat is quicker than the 86, unless it's modified.

[@chrisaguilar625]

The way he moves his hands is hilarious as hell😂 but your the G when it comes to knowing about cars man!!!

[@s.c.1972]

Always looking for you in the Sorrento area… :)

[@scottanthony3426]

Just looking back at this again weeks later. It looks pretty nice in white. The Savage Geese guys bought one, and had some protective wraps put on in strategic places. Someone mentioned that with the flow through vents coming in front, through the front wheel wells and out those vents behind the front wheels, the sides of the car are going to get a lot of dirt and if tracked, road gunk. Anyone have any experience with these kind of vents? With the wheels coming so close to the edge of the wheel wells, the sides of my '17 get plenty of road spray too.

[@sensibleb]

3:29 Thanks for pointing to the wheels, Doug. I might not have been able to find them otherwise.

[@irajdesilva]

The alcantara on top of the gauge cluster could be to prevent/reduce reflection (atleast a shiny reflection). A plastic cluster top could create a reflection on the windscreen. Considering the depth of the cluster cover and the exposure due to the angular windscreen, the reflection of the cluster top can be quite big and hinder driver visibility.

[@procrastinator1842]

Kinda like flocked dash boards in rally cars etc.

[@incognitoblack9431]

This guy's energy is like on 1000% hilarious lmao love watching him explain cars magically funny 🤣😂🤣....

[@paulharris5497]

I love how the VW sedan is laying down the GAP at the 13min mark while Doug talks about the GR86's new power.

[@goodfella69]

Good review as always, but I feel more people should know where this additional torque has gone; look up comparisons of the torque curves of the old 2.0l and 2.4l. Notice the massive torque drop at 3000-5000rpm, with not much of a payoff above 5000rpm in the old 2.0l. As you can probably gather, if the torque curve shot up after this dip, it would make for a very engaging driving experience, similar to one of a 80s/90s/00s turbocharged car with pitiful torque below 3500rpm, but unfortunately it doesn't. The 2.4 adds torque everywhere, and essentially eliminates the massive dip, making the car much quicker in the mid range, as well as faster up top, and therefore more versatile on the road and track. You can exit a corner in third, where you used to have to downshift to second, then to third, and waste time in the process. I cannot stress enough how different it would be to drive cars with those 2 different torque curves. Anybody who owns an GT86/BRZ (as I do, ´17 GT86) will know just how different the driving experience in the new GR86 will be. Not bashing the GT86, is is the funnest car i have ever owned, and one of the funnest ive ever driven, but even the greatest cars have their shortcomings!

[@ellisjackson3355]

I also imagined that they were trying to emulate the acceleration sensation that you would get with VTEC with that torque curve in the 2 liter. I also thought maybe it helps with putting the power down to the ground of you're exciting a corner at 3-4k rpms

[@goodfella69]

@@ellisjackson3355 i see what you mean, although i think the main reason was emissions; the mid range is where most daily driving (City MPG) occurs, so they reduced the fuel consumption there. Like i said the payoff is alright above 5k RPM but by no means comparable to a true VTEC N/A motor.

[@ellisjackson3355]

@@goodfella69 well the FA20 makes 200 hp. Seems to me that a typical built NA VTEC b series usually makes about 200. The only thing is there is less power loss through fwd. So a built NA VTEC B might feel stronger in a 2 door DC Integra than a stock FA20 in an FR-S because of that. Although the weight transfer in the FR-S would help in a launch

[@rotor13]

I'm pretty much dead set on getting a GR 86 and adding a turbo kit to it. GReddy's prototype kit is already making about 320-350whp. I'm sick of driving an appliance car when I need to run errands. A nice fun daily with some power is the ticket. If I really want to go fast, I'll take my ZL1 Camaro to the drag strip

[@rotor13]

@@ellisjackson3355 Thats definitely not the reason lol. The torque dip is solved in 2 ways 1) Better ECU Tuning 2) an equal length exhaust manifold. Those two things alone have allowed people of the previous gen car to completely get rid of the torque dip and some that haven't done anything else than that, are matching the hp numbers of the new car.

[@GODOFGUITAR2112]

I think the gauge cluster is covered in Alcantara to reduce glare off the dash board. Kind of like how rally cars have flocked dashboards to absorb light.

[@ant4106]

This the one 🔥😤

[@bustingyewls154]

This car is actually great. They did a fantastic job with it

[@I_am_Allan]

0:00 Intro 2:20 Quirks / Features 11:25 The Drive 16:00 Doug Score

[@metalheadgamer6666]

@@yungboicontigo9278 Not really. Some ppl don’t have the time to spare to watch Doug’s video, so chapters for each sections of a video is very helpful, if you want to watch a specific segment of a video.

[@gluttonousmaximus9048]

5:12 I love how the GPU-driven color LCD screen on the left and the traditional segmented display of fuel gauge boot up with the same animations to look symmetrical

[@thicco_]

holy shit i didn’t notice that was a regular segmented display

[@YocoWheelin]

I love that duckbill. Suits the car well.

[@kittypoopoo_]

i love doug

[@JetNix]

I have the same steering wheel in my 2019 Yaris Hybrid GR SPORT. xD And the same side air vents. The startup graphic as almost the same too, but in GR86 it spins and shows that the car has a boxer engine. =) The writing on the engine explains that Toyota made the D-4S fuel injection system and Subaru made the BOXER engine.

[@yaknow4759]

It's pretty common to reuse parts from other cars Lamborghinis and Ferraris even do this

[@johnjacob688]

Cars cost a lot more to make when everything is made unique to that model.

[@JetNix]

@@yungboicontigo9278 Yeah, it was the most affordable GR badged car (20 000 Euros with options). They released it alongside the 20-th Anniversary model. They took the standard Yaris Hybrid and made some styling and tecnical changes. The suspension got lowered to 124 mm and Sachs shocks installed, stiffer stabilizers too. Bigger 17' alloy wheels with Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires. The car also got some decorative stuff like GR badges, a steering wheel from GT86 and alcantara seats and some trim elements. It has only 100 hp but it's so grippy. =)

[@JetNix]

@@yungboicontigo9278 Yup, great fuel economy and super smooth acceleration. xD

[@irfanyxp3489]

@@yungboicontigo9278 there's Vios "GR" with 7 speed CVT 🤦

[@elysian5624]

People will wait either love or hate this car, but I love my 2016 Scion FR-S. I owned it for 5 years, I have over 120 K miles, and runs like new. I am definitely going to be adding the GR86 to my collection.

[@carpeople]

Nice ride!

[@marcoramirez3056]

I know my area well and that sir is South on the 5 freeway San diego California. Always a good cruise

[@FGV_Gravity]

Never heard or seen this Toyota before but I already love it

[@BinisGunsAndGames]

This looks so nice! Literally all I want in this is for it to be turbo charged with 230hp. Hell they can even axe the Supra 2.0 and I would be ok.

[@wrinklybird6395]

ive never really liked the brz/frs/gr86 platform but this new one...this new one got something different. I like this new one

[@abiezz]

This car is becoming a real competitor in the sports car stage.! Thanks Doug! Thiiissssss is a great review….

[@robthad151]

Anybody else notice the VW easily passing Doug as he had it floored?

[@Legend-lc9bv]

I don’t understand why Japanese cars manufactures are so scared to put hp in their cars

[@Sepjn]

@@Legend-lc9bv reliability. Not to stress the engine

[@ryanturnerboles]

@@Sepjn it's a sports car though. Noting like paying for a sports car that's slow as a Civic.

[@Sepjn]

@@ryanturnerboles IMO I put it in fun car category like miata. Which are not fun cars to me and I personally would never pay $30k for this

[@mckevrock]

WHOOOOSHHH

[@tahasoomro8585]

this man is soo ... just nice bro dude

[@tedholloway6633]

Wow its look fun to drive will drive it someday.

[@lw1878]

14:06 It is NOT basically the same powertrain from the Acsent. The only thing they share is 2.4L of displacement and maybe a crankshaft.

[@QarthCEO]

🤣🤣🤣

[@jaredchampagne2752]

Still slower than a dog turd either way.

[@Dholi1]

@@jaredchampagne2752 0-60 in the mid 5s.

[@arjunyg4655]

It is though…it’s an FA24F. Sold in the Ascent as well.

[@lw1878]

@@arjunyg4655 Its not though, its the FA24D..

[@bijan4697]

One minor error, I think. Track mode doesn’t fully disable traction control, if it’s anything like the outgoing model. It will still intervene but the tolerances for how much slidey action it’ll let you have is reduced substantially.

[@EncinasPro]

Maybe with a tune you can bypass all that

[@ZaySean16]

You can disable all of it. Look up pedal dance mode.

[@revyiatan86]

@@ZaySean16 just hold down the button on the left for 5s, lmao.

[@ZaySean16]

@@revyiatan86 that doesn’t fully do it. There’s the pedal dance mode which deactivates it completely. I heard it may void the warranty tho

[@revyiatan86]

@@ZaySean16 I drive the 86 man... only thing it doesn't disable is the ABS, which you would only do if you want to try learning braking without that anyway

[@skaltura]

The handling, precise steering etc. MORE THAN overcomes the "lack" of power. It's NA, so you need to "trash" it to get the power out. Unleashed, even FA20 is amazing. Unleashing; Software + RE85 + Exhaust from mid to rear. That alone yields around 270hp and + 1000rpm.

[@eliasflach9132]

damn thanks for showing me the back seats i left some beef jerky back there in my 2015 86

[@satinderduhra]

As a guy who lives in the UK with its narrow but fast roads I really want either this or the GR Yaris.

[@Dante_S550_Turbo]

sad thing is the yaris cost the same as a mustang gt/ camaro ss 1Le 😬

[@Peter-ff1tp]

Alcantara on the gauge cluster because it completely cuts glare. The dash is designed in general to be as unobtrusive and not distracting as possible. That hood gauge disappears while you’re driving, and that’s the point.

[@nathanjoseph4284]

Please do more weird quirky old cars! The quirkier, the better!

[@fredericopinto2943]

Got my 2020 BRZ manual in Pearl White w/ the Performance Package (kinda close to the Ceramic White of the TS) and with the crackle red aluminum intake manifold and red Brembos it really looks trick out of the factory. I find it has the perfect amount of power to help you not get hurt or arrested considering this thing handles like its on rails around corners and is a pretty much a street legal go kart that makes anyone feel like Mario Andretti. Won't win any drag races, but that doesn't require any skill at all, just a large bank account. Love my BRZ. The poor man's Porsche Cayman. Now maybe someday a special edition Toyota GR86 in white with red Brembos? Hmmmmm

[@CC-rd3jy]

I already feel nostalgic for cars like this in the same way that you feel when you grow up and go back to see your parents. While you can enjoy the present the feeling of "how many times am I going to be able to do this" is ever present in the back of your mind. One day very soon cars like this wont be made any more, future generations are going to look at this car and be amazed at the ICE powerplant, lack of tech (relatively), and all around driving experience as something outdated. Enjoy these cars while they last.

[@Synthwave89]

Hyundai are apparently stopping all development of internal combustion engines. It's the beginning of the end, and it's sad to see. I have said this many times even for the 1st gen, but these cars are going to be collectors cars one day.

[@krete3826]

You hit the nail on the head with that comparison. Even though we'll still have these cars on the used market in the future there's the whole problem with sourcing parts, fuel, and the environmental taxes that come with owning an ice vehicle that'll price most enthusiasts out of the hobby. Already happening in a lot of western European countries

[@automachinehead]

@@Synthwave89 do they just keep making electric cars now?

[@maxcactus7]

Really been looking forward to this review! Will likely be my first brand new car.

[@normalhuman6962]

You could get way better for 30k man But do what suits you

[@ivangamer8022]

Funny how americans are obsessed with shitty asian cars but the the only one having value in auctions are european cars lmao

[@kgisabeast]

@@ivangamer8022 here in the US, euro brands are known as “bum cars” or “the dumpster brands” most people don’t want to get made fun of for owning them

[@KingShibe]

@@ivangamer8022 quit copying and pasting your insecurities

[@Jesus_Iced]

@@ivangamer8022 Shitty Asian cars? What are you talking about? Nobody regards 'Asian' cars as shit. Most reliable brands? Strongest resale values? Racing pedigree? European brands can't come close to the 'Asian' cars.

[@4.0cowboy]

How do you guys feel regarding the actual engine platform? I feel Toyota had much more potential in that aspect, they had other I4’s that would’ve been great if not better than the boxer in this application!

[@jenseninterceptor1065]

DOUG!! THAT THOMAS SWEET T-SHIRT IS THE BEST!

[@Aaron-cc7yq]

I've had my scion frs since 2016 and still smile every day I drive it. I really like what they have done to this new version, although the rear styling is not the best imo.

[@01gamefreak]

so much praise from every review

[@sync1216]

7:35 for me it's the other way around, I do get your point... BUT if it was that way, I would worry that I might forget to put everything back on, when playtime is over.. Other than that, nice video👍

[@Nismo738]

How good is this Boxer engine though, I'm curious, does it suffer the same issues as some older ones?

[@zachyurkus]

This GR lineup is just what Toyota needed.

[@ivangamer8022]

Funny how americans are obsessed with shitty asian cars but the the only one having value in auctions are european cars lmao

[@benkirby7495]

@@ivangamer8022 What are you even talking about?

[@BrandonHanson]

@Inces Rambe▶️jj *Americans *Asian *European If you're trying to make a statement. Please learn to hide your stupidity in relevance to hiding a picture of what you actually look like on your KZbin profile.

[@BurnPerimeter]

@@ivangamer8022 damn bro why so mad at what cars people like?

[@camposjesus3725]

The only GR that matters tho is the Supra. The rest of them are just economy cars trying to be sporty lmao This car is one of them. It got gapped by that VW going on the freeway. All Toyotas minus the supra, are NOT sports cars.

[@Dozer04r1]

If you have the means, this seems to be a good, fun, going to town rig for a daily driver, allowing your more special cars to be used in proper fashions. If you only have the means for one car, this seems to be perfect based on cost, likely gas mileage, insurance, performance, etc. Reminds me of why the celica was popular.

[@scottlawton9459]

As the owner of a 2017 Toyota 86, you are absolutely correct. I can play around and have fun with the car, but the fuel mileage allows me to use it as my daily reliably. It’s amazing and the best of both worlds. I love it. And, like Doug said I preferred the car as a Toyota, so I bought that.

[@cenciende9401]

If I had the means I would be dailying a special car otherwise what's the point?