The Xiaomi SU7 Is a Bargain Chinese Luxury Sport Sedan

[@BOB24502]

Did you say $40,000 to $45,000? No wonder why they’re not on sale in the USA, they would destroy the competition

[@Wafflecombo54]

That’s what the U.S. is afraid of Killing auto sales in the states because of foreign competition Like the Japanese back in the 60s-90s Oh but they say it’s privacy and protection for our interests 🙄

[@larryc1616]

Japan and Germany are doomed

[@arminius6506]

@@BOB24502 it starts around 30K, this version is around 40K and than there's top version for 45K.

[@AVB_42]

You think only US have teriffs? Asia's tariffs are on the next level. For example, cost of Toyota Camry in pakistan is 107K USD and 70K USD in India. I'm from Singapore and here Toyota Camry costs 160K USD. Americans don't even know what real tariffs are 😂

[@JT_771]

It would have an impact for sure. Worth noting that one, it would cost more than that here & not by just a few bucks. And two, that China price ... they're currently selling it at a loss. They're estimated to be losing about $10k per vehicle.

[@Weltrath]

That option for physical controls is something EVERY manufacturer needs to offer.

[@danieldautry9319]

I am honestly amazed no one else has invented this before - GENIUS 👌

[@rapid13]

Should be standard and glass should be optional.

[@Jonathan-jp4zz]

for real bro, FU*K giant screen with no buttons, and fu*k digital clusters.

[@opmike343]

No, should be standard. As long as people have hands and fingers there needs to be physical controls. The inundation of screens in cars for things like HVAC, etc. is SOLELY due to cost cutting, period. They just somehow convinced normies that the screens and tablets are "premium". Shouldn't have to pay even MORE money to companies for a car DLC package.

[@МихаилБагдасаров-т3м]

Mercedes actually has that in some models - if you opt for the smaller center screen, it comes with buttons beneath

[@jesserichardson1395]

2019 Doug never would have showed us a switch that raises and lowers the suspension without showing an exterior shot of the car going up and down

[@TurboCroissant]

The physical button add-on is a great idea

[@CsykKrit]

The US brands will "innovate it" in a decade

[@ghoulbuster1]

I really like that addition, it doesn't seem that expensive to make.

[@FailBetter_]

Would rather they just include physical controls stock but definitely better than nothing

[@volvo09]

​@@ghoulbuster1yep, and it gives the user a choice. For us button people it's great, and if you don't care about swiping and taping a screen all the time then you don't have to buy it. Great idea.

[@cemhochreiter3000]

Looks wobbly

[@kelsobluesky]

Worth mentioning Xiaomi still makes phones, laptops and smart home devices all in an advanced ecosystem and this is the brands FIRST car, making this extra impressive.

[@MPP-Films]

Also worth mentioning that the car’s brakes are terrible, look up ‘SU7 track crash’ on youtube

[@solitivity]

It's probably scaring the hell out of major manufacturers, honestly. It's genuinely insane that they did this good of a job on their first go.

[@RapperGMarket]

Also worth mentioning that the whole ecosystem of Xiaomi Internet of things can be accessed from the car. Wanna turn on your Xiaomi lights or set the climate at home? You can do it from your car.

[@robotbro7187]

everything xiaomi makes is good, and well built

[@Wheatybic]

who wants a jack of all trades master of none?

[@JKnationTV]

I just got back from my China Christmas trip, got to sit in a few of these and other Chinese branded electric cars, I can see why they aren’t allowed to be sold here in the US, it’s not about the safety or anything because they’re sold in Europe and other parts of the world as well. If they allowed these cars here, it would bankrupt all the American automakers cause they are better quality, better styling, more modern, more performance at a way better price point, basically US protecting their brands which is not very free-market capitalism if you ask me

[@zeitgeistx5239]

@@JKnationTV it has never been free market. Free trade has never existed. There has always been tariffs protecting some sectors in every country. Try importing rice in Japan and see how much the tariffs are. Try importing corn ethanol into the U.S. and see how much the tariffs are. Try importing any food stuffs into the EU and see how much the tariffs are.

[@medved3027]

Same story. I rode in quite a few EV taxis in Shanghai. Some of them had the kind of driving assistance features that we won't get for the next few years. Particularly impressive was the feature where on the screen the car becomes almost transparent and shows you what's _underneath_ the car. Very useful in tight spots.

[@lambolim2178]

Better styling is debatable but these ev definitely are bang for bucks

[@hwyd]

​@@lambolim2178just go see some brands like Avatar, Zeekr, Li Auto and so on, they have good designers from all around the world. So some of those car's styling is not behind anymore.

[@Synchromesh123]

@@lambolim2178 Yeah, better styling part is perplexing. This looks like a Chinese copy of a Tesla and as much as I dislike the latter I think it looks far better.

[@jcat96]

Ah yes, The Xiaomi Sukhoi 7 fighter jet.

[@aleksandr_elkov]

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[@jcat96]

@aleksandr_elkov there is a SU7 as well

[@aleksandr_elkov]

@ 🤷‍♂️

[@k-dog7013]

As an aircraft nerd that's the first thing that popped into my mind upon hearing the name

[@aleksandr_elkov]

@ me too

[@alexbakalov281]

Xiaomi presented the car for a few days in Paris and I had the chance to go see it. Here's a few quirks that were shown to me by the staff that Doug didn't mention: ● There's a rear spoiler that lifts up in sport mode. ● The frunk is hermetically sealed, and the marketers were bragging about how you could fill it with water and ice to keep stuff cool. The little circles that you see at 16:43 are drain plugs to empty it once you're done. ● The car has voice recognition (like many others) but if you have Xiaomi smart home gadgets you can ask the car to turn off the lights or turn on the heater even when no one is home

[@boxoffisa]

Do you think their investment on this will return? The concept is very cool, most especially controlling your home devices from a car just in case you forgot and are already on the way or in jam.

[@alexbakalov281]

@boxoffisa I think the market in China is so big that they are probably already making big profits from home sales. In Europe the buzz around EVs has also started dying off though, and SU7 sales are only going to start in March 2025. I've seen a couple BYDs around but I think MG might be the only chinese car company that stays in Europe, mainly because they're building a new factory in Spain to escape the tariffs

[@Fasteddiebreakshearts]

Super cool wish we could get it in the states

[@RayNLA]

@@alexbakalov281 Thank you for sharing

[@arthurbilenker2622]

The washable trunk would sell well for the mob.

[@JulianaWoody]

It makes sense why Elon was so concerned about competition from China. Tesla would be destroyed by this.

[@DFWsCars]

Tesla still sells fairly well in China tho

[@dxd15-u1j]

​@@DFWsCars they sell only because chinese people think teslas are a higher class car, which is obviously wrong

[@Black-Peter]

However, a large portion of the world cannot afford these outrageous prices western companies are setting. So I'm actually happy this market exists for them.

[@tren133]

@@DFWsCars Of all the so-called "Model 3 killers" that have launched in China over the past few years, including the much hyped BYD Seal, the only one that is actually killing the Model 3 in actual sales (or at least matching it in sales) is the SU7. For now Tesla is doing okay because the Model Y is by far their volume seller, but Xiaomi is moving at lightning speed, and their YU7 is right around the corner.

[@paulhenry4059]

@@tren133Teslas are going the way of the dodo in China. I live in Shanghai where Tesla has their Chinese gigafactory and i see far more Chinese electric cars on the road than teslas. There are heaps more name brands in China that haven't been mentioned. BYD is just one, but Roewe is nice as well as Nio. There is a nice non-electric car company here called Lynk&Co that are sporty and could do pretty well in the US too.

[@juggernaut-7-6]

Looks like a taycan and a 720s had a baby...

[@fattywithafirearm]

And in china known to perform like you fed the baby lead paint chips.

[@spencercorby4571]

I see it

[@krappstiermaddux8282]

🤣I can't unsee that anymore!

[@fredrce]

looks like there is a better performance for money value than the overrated ioniq 5 N

[@bilboriches7216]

Looks like a Tycan in 240p

[@ruk2023--]

Those gopro mounts are a great example of what happens when engineers are allowed to make decisions on product features.

[@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785]

also, those under the rear seat storage compartments look just the right size for a compact umbrella, which is probably their intended purpose(either that or for taking off your shoes)...some European cars had a slot in the door for an umbrella, and this must have been Xiaomi's solution.

[@garythecyclingnerd6219]

Not really. These feature ideas can come from anyone. Typically designers, who are not engineers. The engineers make what designers possible, although sometimes these are the same person. The product manager ultimately has responsibility over what is included. They can axe any feature or demand features be added. There can be several product managers responsible for different portions of a vehicle that all report to a product leader who decides if they are meeting profitability goals.

[@ruk2023--]

@@garythecyclingnerd6219 I get the feeling you're speaking from theoretical knowledge rather than practical. The idea that the product manager has the final say is a fallacy and I saw that from having been a PM for years. Any seasoned PM will tell you that they are facilitators rather than dictators. They are constantly outranked by heads of departments pushing their own agendas and my comment was pointed at the fact that a gopro mount is the solution to a problem nobody has. That's typical of engineers being allowed to lead decisions (a weak PM will allow that or office politics may mean engineering has a bigger role than it should). Either way my comment was more tongue in cheek than a serious response.

[@XTan-jv4gg]

The comment about these being phone mounts make more sense. Certainly beat the vent clip-ons. In fact, accessary mounting points can be for anything. not limited to just phones or gopros.

[@garythecyclingnerd6219]

@ No, I am speaking from experience working as a design engineer in multiple Fortune 500 companies. If your VP or senior manager is pulling rank on you, then that is their prerogative. Typically I only saw those guys focusing on profitability/margin of the product the PM was envisioning. They would also ensure that PMs are hitting goals as defined in the product development plans. I have pitched ideas to senior leadership, even had some developed before doing so. I also push back from the PMs (especially if they’re under marketing) for ideas that are difficult to manufacture. But the idea engineers have that much power I find to be absurd. Especially the larger the business, the lower the the influence any engineer can have.

[@RandomUser1668]

If you switch the Xiaomi logo with a Porsche. You can literally sell this car for 120k and people would still think it is a good deal

[@gregmccauley1687]

true but then you would also expect it not to have issues and break down. That's the biggest risk with a tech heavy car. it's an amazing value if the reliability is there

[@MrDuncl]

That control panel option is genius. Let's hope other manufacturers copy it.

[@pyrophobia133]

the other Chinese manufacturers already did

[@icyrust8831]

And it's from a tech company lol

[@dreaminglazar7077]

And now we copy them:)

[@SniperSnake50BMG]

Exactly. Your Americans think Chinese copy everything and now you're copying them...

[@goncalo33]

Only if it's a hardware connection and not Bluetooth.

[@mark2220]

Sooo.. Xiaomi can make a car and kill it on the first try? No awful panel gaps, horrible paint jobs and other new manufacturer occurrences that the likes of Tesla struggled through? AND it's affordable? Well damn, well done.

[@peedeegt]

Because it’s basically had billions and billions and billions pumped into it by the Chinese government. I have absolutely no doubt that they reverse engineered Tesla’s and other vehicles to look at how they’re built etc. Tesla had almost nothing to go on initially and was totally not-funded by the US government. That’s the difference.

[@aidenoctane1385]

problem is tariffs. Trump would basically force the company to move to the US. Which if they can great on them they'll definently bring some competition. If not then they'd have to suffer with the tariffs and if they chose to sell to the US your looking at those cars being 70 to 80k

[@thorc4167]

They got help from a car maker ffs, don’t believe these lies.

[@AZ-rg3rf]

@@bwofficial1776 keep lying, shill.

[@mauritsvw]

They've been manufacturing well designed and well made household appliances for a long time, so the step up to an EV (which is also in many ways an appliance) was probably not that difficult.

[@7eamGhast]

After seeing this I’m fully convinced that the Chinese are number one at information gathering. They’ve taken EVERYTHING good about many cars, that steering wheel is absolutely R8 inspired, and the price point for performance is crazy good. I stopped being so ignorant about quality when i started using Milwaukee tools, the Chinese make great stuff.

[@nagi-springfield93]

China offer cheap stuff and expensive stuff, if u pay cheap u get cheap, it just that simple. China has temu which mostly provice cheap stuff but in the meantime most of amazon stuff are just rebrand from chinese stuff.

[@paulusjosef]

So this is why the US wants to tariff these chinese ev’s

[@nikoc8968]

of course. dirt cheap products made through practical slave labor, with stolen technology, that no nation with domestic companies that pay living wages could ever possibly compete with...they _should_ be tariffed.

[@miguelangelo9536]

@@paulusjosef And EU too

[@AlexWaardenburg]

@@miguelangelo9536 Any market that has native manufacturers wants to protect them, but every market that doesn't have native car manufacturing, like Australia, South America, and Africa is going to love the new Chinese cars.

[@herbiehusker1889]

These Chinese EVs will kill the industry. But they're still crap. Just cheap crap.

[@rosemaryfriedw124a8]

@@miguelangelo9536 unless EU really does care about standards especially quality and safety, that's why the tariffs are actually test-based not country of origin-based

[@ericbailey1756]

They will never let these cars to be sold here it would be the death of the US auto industry

[@driliagor]

Totally agree. Instead we get to drive teslas with a single screen, no stalks, no gear selector , no physical buttons.

[@slowanddeliberate6893]

The death of Tesla.

[@jeffs6090]

I wish they did. Consumers deserves choices. Let the market decide if other manufacturers go out of business. If they don't want to, then they need to figure that out. The high governmental tariffs (and basically banning these) are basically them helping the other manufacturers stay afloat. Stupid in my mind.

[@Johnny91832]

Not so fast. These have deadly QC issues, primarily the brakes failing.

[@perryelyod4870]

@@jeffs6090 Ah, free enterprise capitalism is only so when it's advantageous, but when threatened, we get corporate welfare.

[@YuriTheFriendlyRussian]

No wonder Elon was super worried about Chinese competition. This would destroy tesla.

[@jwalster9412]

And everyone would flock to this when they see the Whistlin diesel review where it actually survives more than one door slam.

[@mastertrend4685]

@@YuriTheFriendlyRussian Tesla has not bad market share in China. Chinese people like Tesla very much…

[@nagi-springfield93]

@@mastertrend4685 just tell much who actually has the free trade and who dont

[@el_covfefe]

The radar assist is actual Lidar, that's why its mounted like that.

[@ivanmatvienko1018]

In US and Europe they didn't event hear about the technologies are used in China, which is differnet planet in terms of hi-tech. In China drivers can sleep while car is driving itself using that "cab like" lidars on the top. Nappa leather, fridge, 600+ horese power, top technologies for $45. Well, you could pay $250 for Maybach or Porsche and get all that if you want to avoid chinese cars🤷‍♀😁

[@Aiophgy]

We have lidar, it’s just expensive for car companies to mount it

[@WowCreativeUsername]

​@@ivanmatvienko1018 But how's the long term quality? Looking good on a showroom floor isn't the same as after a few years of hard ownership.

[@StephenButlerOne]

​@@WowCreativeUsernamequality and longevity is not something current USA or EU cars are famous for ATM, so the bar isn't that high for anyone to meet

[@ghoulbuster1]

@@ivanmatvienko1018 I don't know about sleeping inside a car.

[@amalka_ari]

Fun Fact: Xiaomi is often referred to as "Apple of China". Apple's car program (project Titan) was in development for a decade, but it was canceled in 2024. Meanwhile Xiaomi announced their EV program in March 2021 and delivered 1st production vehicle in 2024. As of November 2024, they have already rolled out 100,000+ Xiaomi SU7s

[@lukaszb8328]

But still IpHonE iZ BettER

[@user_uif_ghg_wer_das]

But still the Apple is the most valuable company ever.

[@Notfiveo0]

Doug is the type of guy who has been in the car business for many years but still doesn’t understand the cost of labor in China vs the USA.

[@user_uif_ghg_wer_das]

@@Notfiveo0 actually the labor cost is only a small portion in the entire cost structure considering massive usage of robots among China's car manufacturers.

[@Notfiveo0]

@ Forgot about that. CEO’s high salaries probably make up for it.

[@qjwdnjekdnweoif23iojdieunfuw00]

Doug once again didn’t do his homework when it comes to Chinese cars… Here are a few things he missed: Xiaomi sells a HUGE range of accessories for this car. For example, those GoPro mounts aren’t just for cameras. They’re basically little tripod slots where you can attach whatever you want. There’s a slot under the central armrest where you can insert branded cartridges - like air fresheners - and the car will distribute the scent through the air vents. You can also get their branded flashlight or a big power bank for that slot (there are even more options). Recently, the car got an update that added English language support. On the backs of the front seats, you can attach iPads, and they’ll automatically connect to the car, letting you control things like climate and other functions. The central screen supports phone mirroring (like iPhone mirroring), and the car connects to smart home systems, meaning you can control all your home devices through the car using voice commands. The onboard AI is so advanced that you can literally ask, “What’s that building to my left?” and the car will recognize it, look it up, and tell you all about it. And the HUD - it’s a massive 52 inches. You can project things like the map, speed, battery info, weather, and more, all at the same time I definitely haven't even mentioned the 1/4 the features weren't mentioned in the video

[@Jehowy666]

Who cares? This thing is already DOA in china, nobody is buying it, because of how trash it is. There are usable chinese cars, but xiaomi ain't it.

[@christophergyang1322]

Where is the SIM card slot in this car?

[@marcd7332]

You forgot to mention the best quirk of this car: Brake pads smaller than the ones on my motorcycle, they are being cheap where they shouldn't be.

[@johnny4063]

​@@marcd7332 they use brembo, and it's standard at no extra cost.

[@jwalster9412]

So, if I ask it to tell me the world's longest word like I've done with Google and Alexa, will it spend five minutes reading it and butchering it, or will it do it perfectly with proper pronunciation in under 3 minutes?

[@alburaq3290]

Xiaomi did what Apple failed to do

[@Fabulousprofound168]

And Sony (Afeela)

[@safwan4751]

Next time if you like Apple just because it is the richest company and is affiliated with iPhone, you should seriously reconsider

[@Steve_jones113]

I'm watching this Xiaomi car review on my Xiaomi 12T phone.😂

[@Lessgo00]

@@safwan4751No, apple has the best products. Most reliable. Only samsung can win but still iphone is more reliable. Mac is the best pc you can buy (i think still).

[@RamonGT]

BYD did that (the apple car)

[@1dayumay548]

Bro Xiaomi used to be a phone, now it’s an entire laptop

[@honeyfuntime]

Now its a laptop with wheels

[@mathewmcfool]

So thats why Apple tried to make a car 🤔

[@tafaragadze6432]

@@1dayumay548 I swear thus company makes everything

[@dgurevich1]

xiaomi is the everything company in China. They literally do everything. from tooth bushes to cars.

[@paulparker8298]

Same as Hyundai they build ships , and thousands of other products

[@gmbai]

I'm watching this while taking the high speed train to the northeast here in China. I have been very impressed with Chinese EVs! Some of them are super futuristic in cool and useful ways. All taxis are now EVs in Beijing where I currently live. This has made the air quality a lot better! I know the government pushes EVs very hard, and I know there are caveats to selling them in the US, but after seeing the minivan MKBHD reviewed in a short, I do have envy...

[@bleeksalt7796]

Even Ford CEO loves it😂😂

[@GothPaoki]

@@bleeksalt7796 even ford ceo knows hus brands cars are too expensive to buy lol...

[@bilboriches7216]

So why do you have a chinese ip adress?

[@gpaje]

I mean it's true, he literally brought one over and drives it to work, he was on a podcast literally raving how good it was.

[@GothPaoki]

He loves it because he knows it's not super expensive like his brands cars

[@gpaje]

@@GothPaoki You should watch/listen to the podcast, it's more than just value for money, its also about innovation. Don't sleep on the Chinese cars, it's going to lead the US auto industry to ruin to assume it's just because they are cheap.

[@Wafflecombo54]

Starting to see why Xiaomi isn’t legal in the U.S. it’s simply competition

[@technom3598]

Well when you use slave labor to assemble your cars... And they don't pass NHTSA...

[@jaimeramirez6407]

@@technom3598where did you get that information from?

[@bradenmchenry995]

They’re fully funded by the CCP

[@RetroGamerr1991]

@@jaimeramirez6407 They've never been tested but with the way the seat folded like a gaming chair in that brake failure crash, I doubt the rest of the car is built any better.

[@jburdsinfuse]

@@jaimeramirez6407 is that a serious question? Have you not heard of uighurs? Time for you to get off KZbin and do some homework…China is all about that forced labor.

[@eugenenassif]

It is crazy how quickly they have developed world class cars at affordable prices. Certainly reliability is yet to be seen but they accomplished something few could

[@Cheeseburgerperson141]

Doug’s the kind of father that would read a owners manual to his kids bedtime story.

[@WT83]

And he'd do enough facial expressions and voices to make it sound like an epic tale

[@Drini666]

Xiaomi makes almost everything tech related

[@solitivity]

Honestly, if any Chinese company starts manufacturing/getting into the industry of chip-fabrication, I feel like it'd probably be Xiaomi.

[@CynicAtheist]

Insane home automation product range

[@ashleyjohansson230]

Not as much as hitachi. If you know, you know 🤭

[@manuelsalazar3938]

Incomplete statement, they make tech and non-tech, they make umbrellas and similar non-tech gadgets.

[@Alfred-li0421]

@@solitivityActually, it's not xiaomi it's huawei. Yes the company trump says is a national threat 😂now you see why. Xiaomi however, is still a company lack of innovation especially compares to huawei for many Chinese 😢

[@jamesrager8589]

Doug is the kind of guy to fart 💨 20:43 into the video. 😂

[@Robert.Blodgett]

Luxury car quiet 😅

[@lordmephisto6654]

When japanese brought their cars "Oh look at these tiny cars, they'll never capture the market" - then boom they captured the market. When Korean brought their cars "Oh haha, look at these cheap cars, they'll never capture the market" - then boom they captured the market. Now Chinese are bringing their cars, be ready as they capture the market. They've already started doing that in Asia and Africa.

[@BoredSquirell]

This is how the lifecycle of companies goes. A company starts building a new innovative product, it gets popular and it captures market share. Then they forget how to innovate and the next generation of companies takes over. It happened so many times, in so many industries at this point it can be considered inevitable.

[@braunarsch]

china will conquer worldwide with their companies

[@kevintang5473]

No worries we got tariff this time

[@grahamburgdorf8397]

The Chinese cars I drive in Africa sucked lol. All the other imports are better. They are neat but not made well

[@georgejesson1944]

And Latin America

[@jjunture]

Now I’m curious about how the Ford CEO imported, titled, and licensed this car. I’m not surprised that he was able to do it, but I’m curious about the logistics. Edit: Jim Farley said it was flown in from Shanghai to Chicago, so it did not go through Mexico.

[@CC-ix8nn]

It’s probably a show car or it came from Mexico

[@CommittingSudoku]

Manufacturers are able to get them conditionally for testing and comparison to their own models, probably related to that pathway and unfortunately I have no knowledge of that process.

[@TheSonyExperience]

It probably was built in Mexico. Possibly using a manufacturer plate to avoid registering it

[@edwardvalivonis23]

It came from Mexico like the other guy who brought Scania

[@GothPaoki]

@@jjunture well the logistics can't be that much more expensive than what ford sells their cars and CEO probably knew it ..

[@yazansakran3326]

We need Doug to review a F22 Raptor next

[@ArchYeomans]

BYD next

[@aimadelhabti6888]

Apple spent 10b on an iCar and got nothing. These guys did it. Kudos.

[@paulc6766]

Tim Cook must go.

[@wizardmoto]

Apple haven't had an innovative product since LITERALLY the 1980s. If you expected them to deliver on promises you're simply historically ignorant of the brand

[@Taktko]

Apple screwed up they should have put our an iPhone on wheels by now.

[@isaacfortner]

@@wizardmotoUh, iPod? iPad? iMac? Can’t deny each of those was highly innovative and changed the market, even if you didn’t buy one. I’m not a huge Apple fanboy, but they absolutely had innovative products clear through the early 2000s, though I’d agree their stuff now and the last several years is pretty mid.

[@rustler08]

@@wizardmoto Literally? Are you too ignorant to understand that the reason for your smartphone today is the iPhone?

[@sepehr1257]

Doug is the type of guy to literally fart in a brand new car 20:43 and be proud enough to upload it

[@DanielGarcia-uz5sn]

💀💀💀

[@John_Locke_108]

Lol. I watched it numerous times I'm 99% certain that it indeed was a fart.

[@apexerman1]

@@John_Locke_108 - LOL... He did pause....

[@slowanddeliberate6893]

We all have gas that creeps out.

[@xMithras]

Not the first time either

[@EconoMadeSilly]

Americans are looking at this car review with dark green envy wishing they could lay their luxury loving hands on the SU7

[@aussiebloke609]

The Max is the Mid, in the same way that the popcorn at a theatre comes in large, giant and ultra.

[@anumbus]

don't forget the biggest size of popcorn... swimming pool...

[@googleislame]

Tall, Grande, and Venti

[@aussiebloke609]

@@googleislame Only if you're into bad coffee at exorbitant prices - LOL

[@MrXyemoe]

Surprised American buyers by MSRP in 40K range lol just how ridiculous new car prices are in US today

[@guguigugu]

it would cost 100k easily if manufactured by western standards and safety requirements. i wouldnt sit in one of these.

[@MrXyemoe]

@ true but prices got out of control, even when counting for inflation. Literally X2& some, in last 25 years.

[@TheSeptu]

@@guguigugu Exactly what I think most people are missing when they are dunking on the US market. Most Chinese domestic cars are incredibly cheap because of this.

[@coolguy_2997]

@@guguigugu it’s cheaper because their production facility is way more efficient and fully automated and robotised and controlled by AI, and by not some low IQ fat lazy people begging more money for nothing :)

[@AbrahamFarrell]

@@TheSeptu What's your opinion based on? Have you done any research on the Chinese car manufacturing market? Most of these types of responses are based on Media Conditioning, propaganda and pure Copium. Your government would not be trying to block these vehicles from the US market if they were inferior unsafe products. Lots of these Chinese car are on sale in Europe and their safety requirement are far more stringent than the US. The facts are whether you like it or not, the Chinese have won the EV race and will own the international Auto-market, like the also will almost every other markets, because they own almost every single Supply Chain and there is very little that the United States can do about that. That is the facts. If you're an honest guy, you do some genuine research.

[@Agent47_]

0:16 the bug crawling out of the headlight 😂😂

[@BrendanMacWade]

The CEO of Ford drove one of these for weeks. He didn't want to let it go.

[@grggi35]

He quit and works as a taxi driver in Shanghai now.

[@ramblerandy2397]

Try 6 months.

[@Rapido20]

We all know we all heard him say it at the beginning of the video Not to mention the news that he said that went extremely viral on every social platform Talk about discovering that water is wet

[@ramblerandy2397]

@@Rapido20 Then you weren't watching the very video where Jim Farley made his admission. Talk about accepting inaccuracies.

[@douglasharre7156]

I read that when he was discussing this car with his senior management team in the USA he said "there's only two problems with this car - "it's too good and it's too cheap..."

[@amazingjason455]

None of us will ever own, drive, or even sit in this car, yet here we are.

[@thanosianthemadtitanic]

Doug was the last remaining big car youtuber who hasn't sold out to China. 😢sad

[@borlean4691]

why, in my country (in central europe) you can already get one

[@dr.andreasdanner6795]

@@amazingjason455 neither Lambo, Ferrari or Porsche. Donˋt get your point.

[@Peer_Teer]

​@@thanosianthemadtitanicExaxtly what I was thinking! At least somebody with a clear sight! This thing is only a bargain because of heavy subventions from the state!

[@amazingjason455]

@@dr.andreasdanner6795 Those are available and aspirational. This is irrelevant.

[@gr33nytherevengemaster26]

This car legit has more soul than any new tesla

[@juanzingarello4005]

Anything has more soul than Tesla.

[@-GBD-]

Way to sell your soul to china!! Congrats!

[@aussie2uGA]

Why is that? Specifically

[@onetwothreefour-s1n]

Oh for sure. Tesla are cheaply built with poor ride qualities. And hilarious looks.

[@onetwothreefour-s1n]

​@@aussie2uGAoh boy, you offended the fanboy.

[@BkINGz]

If this was in thr US I will buy. For $45k USD it's a no brainer

[@Chevy4vida]

Of course you would scab

[@jaeehovaa]

It would cost more after shipping and tariffs more 80k lol

[@adinchina1]

I live in China and I got mine in May. It’s an amazing car and there is so much more to it. You can also mount iPad with dedicated accessories in the back seats and connect it to the cars infotainment. And it also has very advanced self driving capability.

[@zilent]

I can imagine Doug’s emotions when he sees the aito M9 and lixiang l9 or mega

[@adinchina1]

@@zilent I think he will see AITO m9 soon because Forrest already did a review.

[@somebody9785]

Doug is the kind of guy that goes hunting for fortune cookies inside Chinese cars 😮

[@edwardvalivonis23]

Doug is a type of a guy to wear sock over his head when raining

[@CaptainBlitz]

💀

[@poseidonguy3940]

@@edwardvalivonis23 His pelvis is extremely wide.

[@larryc1616]

Doug is an honest man who reviews cars not politics.

[@lauscho]

I really want to see more reviews, not just from you but overall, of more Chinese car brands. It's so interesting to me that like 20 years ago, their best cars were basically rickshaws, and now they're competitive with some of our best.

[@pepper0075]

Dude...a phone company made a car in about 10 years since it's founding is mind-blowing

[@benjaminrobinson3842]

Looking forward to that new Ford F-150 phone.

[@bwofficial1776]

When your country steals everything, no wonder they had a head-start on R&D. They stole it from everyone else and didn't have the decency to not make their car look like a knockoff Taycan.

[@aidenoctane1385]

Yeah technology is crazy now

[@drunkenhobo8020]

​@@benjaminrobinson3842 God imagine that. Could you even conceive how bad a Chevrolet phone would be?

[@turbinator1990]

Because of alot of stolen IP from western countries

[@allalbavincero]

In Chinese words, the company name "小米" is meaning "tiny rice," yet the company's annual revenue in 2024 is over 37 billion US dollars.

[@dfh4223]

小米 means millet, which is also a kind of grain, but it is not small rice.😂

[@Jehowy666]

We don't know the actual numbers, china is known for lying and deception. Xiaomi is most likely several billions in debt and without chinese goverment it would not survive.

[@ArchYeomans]

China is the most technological advanced country in the world.

[@ITt-w4t]

I’m surprised you didn’t touch on the controversy of how small the actual brake pads are, even though the caliper is huge. You have a brake pad the size of something from a Corolla, it’s laughably small.

[@romanval69]

Its an EV so it's mostly regen braking anyways. Some EV have gone 100K and still have their original brake pads.

[@Klassicmix]

One thing I love about your review is you go indept into a product,with step to step photos.

[@TayBrego]

When your mom says, "No, you can't have one. We already have a Taycan at home."

[@minakoto00]

[@anasevi9456]

Great review and it is insane how good the Chinese have become at making cars. They've always been surprisingly reliable long term, going by the many 15+ year old GWM trucks putting along here in Australia with over 350k on the odo. But the refinement and quality has skyrocketed over the last 10 years. Sad for Americans that USA will forever keep Chinese cars tariffed out of competing there unless they started making factories in the USA... and given the mean girl attitude of DC towards mainland China, I don't see any Chinese company risking it.

[@silentperson233]

Kind of amazing, I just looked up this car after hearing about the CEO of Ford interview... and Doug releases a video about it 30 mins ago!

[@echtogammut]

The screen-physical control thing is a great idea. Porsche is bringing back physical controls, but this would be a great compromise.

[@gordonstarship]

Very interesting insight into that market. Thank you Doug

[@sdallnct]

Doug, the type of guy that just casually mentions a $45,000 BEV that goes “400-500 miles”. 😂

[@chuckxu5910]

If it charged under 5 minutes, cheap and 500 miles range it’ll sell like a hot cake

[@sdallnct]

@@chuckxu5910ur not far off. It’s reported charging 10%-80% in 12 minutes. Which would make it faster than Lucid, Macan and the Taycan. Not sure we have the chargers in the US to deliver that.

[@Briggsian]

The fastest charging Chinese EVs can use up to 500kW charge rates, never dropping below 300kW. For comparison, the fastest charge rate for North American cars is around 350kW peak. It only takes about 10 minutes of charging between 300-500kW to fill a cars battery from 10-80%. You can plug one of those in, go grab a coffee and a donut, use the bathroom, and barely make it back in time to unplug before​ your car is charged. @@chuckxu5910

[@aidenoctane1385]

@@sdallnct Tesla's new super chargers can charge 350 kW which is 31% faster than the V3 super chargers. And has potential to charge a vehicle from 0-100% in under 10 minutes. Supports NACS, CCS1, CCS2, and GB/T. Now the problem is just building enough of them around the country. Tesla's done an amazing job with their charging network. These new V4 chargers will take a bit until you see a lot of em

[@aidenoctane1385]

@@chuckxu5910 five minutes is a lot to ask right now. Ten minutes is possible with tesla's new V4 Supercharger

[@mohitreddy9999]

There's a brand from china called BYD(Build your Dreams) . It's taking over India in luxury EV segment. And honestly they look good and not cheap looking in anything anymore 😊

[@MrDuncl]

The local Volvo dealer here in the U.K. has started selling BYD. Their Seal is better looking than this.

[@vikos78]

There is not a brand from China called BYD... BYD is THE main brand in China and is aiming to be no1 wordlwide within the next 5 years!

[@zakim8105]

@@MrDuncl volvo is owned by a Chinese brand too. Geely

[@AVB_42]

I would not call selling just ten car a day as "taking over" 😂

[@mohitreddy9999]

@@AVB_42 read it properly. Don't argue without reading properly. I said in premium EV segment. In premium EV segment there's BMW iX, Kia ev6, Hyundai Ioniq. It's selling better than all of those.

[@tomokokishi3066]

Today we live in a crazy era where Honda and Nissan merge because they are worried that a phone company can build a cool car which can affect their market share.

[@JohnDoe-ch6qy]

Honda and Nissan are merging cus Nissan bet all they money on electric and lost, they're down to like 94% net profits this year and basically going bankrupt unofficially, it was either full bankruptcy or merge with someone, Honda is doing good on it's own

[@tren133]

How the mighty have fallen. If Honda is so worried that in a software and tech dominated modern world, that would migrate over to tech in cars, why doesn't Honda just partner with an advanced consumer electronics company to make their own competitive tech filled EV? Oh wait, Honda DID do that, by partnering with a little company you might have heard of: SONY. But much like Honda itself, Sony is also past its prime, and even Honda and Sony put together to build their horribly named Afeela EV brand, remains hopelessly behind what Xiaomi has managed on its own.

[@ArchYeomans]

China is the winner.

[@enighostmaster]

"Like other EVs it's relatively heavy"...but the Tesla M3 weighs the same as the BMW M3.

[@TheAustrianPainter87]

G90 is a hybrid

[@aussie2uGA]

The model 3 was actually lighter than my v8 e93.

[@onetwothreefour-s1n]

The model 3 is embarrassing garbage compared to this car.

[@peedeegt]

The Model S Plaid is 200kg LIGHTER than the new M5. The whole ‘EV’s are heavier’ argument is simply BS.

[@larryc1616]

M3P 47K 10 second car = ICE is DEAD

[@robinsonsuarez1875]

I really like seeing these Chinese branded vehicles. I know most Americans hear Chinese and they think cheap due to the stuff that is sold here in the states being cheaply made but I feel like China does that on purpose lol they make super cheap stuff for us but make high quality stuff for their own market. Looks good and would love to see a long term reliability of the vehicle

[@jianfeng6913]

Actually, China is so big and produces all kind of goods, including high-quality and low-quality. However, high-quality goods often only sell well in Western markets when they are produced as OEMs for Western brands. Chinese high-quality brands struggle to gain recognition in the West, only those cheap low-quality goods sell well in the west, which leads to the perception that Chinese products are of poor quality while Western brands are seen as superior. In fact, both are manufactured in China.😂

[@kyleduda]

I've had Xiaomi smartphones and they are great value for the money with a lot of performance.

[@moatazbadr9493]

Yeah Xiaomi eco system is going to the next level

[@higherstandard710]

Love how you do cars we don’t see a lot. 1:44

[@GothPaoki]

Before anyone starts their usual bs about China= bad I'll mention this car has already passed the much stricter European safety tests with flying colours which is super impressive considering it's the brands first made car. There's a nice video by tech+kiss analysing the crash tests.

[@omegadomega]

Doubt

[@GothPaoki]

@omegadomega you're not very smart then cause they're already getting sold...

[@AVB_42]

There are countless cases of fire incidents 😂 They are regularly forced to issue recalls because of potential fire hazard. Just two months ago they had another 100k vehicle recall. It's a joke.

[@ibentTube]

@@AVB_42same with our cars.

[@AVB_42]

@@ibentTube not true. Not even close.

[@zachyurkus]

That’s crazy, we have to pay double this amount if we want this much performance in a Domestic model.

[@bwofficial1776]

That's because we have safety standards, labor laws, and intellectual property laws in the US.

[@nasosk4248]

@@bwofficial1776 protect your market share you mean but yeah ok.

[@AZ-rg3rf]

@@nasosk4248 hes a blatant cia shill, no use arguing with a paid liar.

[@bArda26]

@@bwofficial1776 this car is designed per NCAP standards so it actually has stricter safety requirements than our FMVSS.

[@Chevy4vida]

Go check out how much imports are taxed in china.

[@goncalo33]

The radar thing looks like a roof scoop, not a taxi sign. That may be the best implementation of it I've ever seen so far.

[@wooster000]

Try to find in us such cars as lixiang, zeekr, nio, yangwang or one of huawei brands(aito, stelato, luxeed). Very impressive cars

[@ouner-699]

"lixiang, zeekr," - I agree, these are really cool cars. I am especially impressed by the Zeekr 001... Although, for daily use I would choose the LiXiang L9

[@rafuyhhre4543]

Xaomi went from making phones to this. Things what we expect from apple and Samsung.

[@Reathon]

Samsung used to make tanks for the Military

[@edwardvalivonis23]

Samsung makes cars too

[@GothPaoki]

@@rafuyhhre4543 yeap they're the chinese sony they make everything from brooms to cars

[@abbiravindhran8424]

Because Apple and Samsung want to make money only, not think about innovation. Even Samsung is better since they make TVs and fridges. Apple just makes phones and laptops. Apple cannot even make a TV, yet diehard Apple fans boast about their camera and picture quality... SMH.

[@klishee9]

Apple will price the same 30 000 usd car over 100 000 because of the apple logo

[@AvAfanfromfrance]

This color combination is outrageously cool, I love it

[@zohircherifi5616]

Apple: I will make a car Xiaomi: hold my bear

[@pyrophobia133]

hold my moutai

[@darklightsongs]

FINALLY IVE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR THIS REVIEW

[@nitin7218]

Fun fact: some of you know the mobile brand " One plus ". It's a midrange priced device that spec matches the flagships. That business model for smartphone was pioneered by Xiaomi. This car is exactly THAT! . HIGH END specs for a mid-range price, there'll definitely be some trade-offs and cost cutting.

[@GermanCarNerd]

Did he fart at 20:43? 😂

[@KINGVONFRM063]

U never farted in Ur life?

[@srt8diego]

He burped

[@zk9058]

He did something. And ironically, it occurred at the exact time he was talking about how quiet the car is…..

[@GaminGiga]

Didn't expect to associate 'bargain' and 'luxury' together, well done, Xiaomi.

[@thelastwordreview]

I love the Chinese cars on the channel recently. Very helpful

[@piorundip8705]

Tesla sell their cars in China with 40% discount. There is simpky too much competition there. Imagine US open ev car market...

[@kc2213]

Americans are too blinded by their hatred for China that they literally justify the absurd prices US companies charge. Meanwhile the CEOs make millions upon millions and the average American is drowning in debt and inflation. It’s such a backwards mentality that I’m actually concerned for the sanity of these types of people.

[@aussie2uGA]

The CCP would push these on us for near nothing until our industry collapsed.

[@ccea_3050]

@@piorundip8705 Also 5 yrs 0% APR

[@dellas1986]

more like Tesla has been ripping people off

[@zahirkhan778]

For that price it will sell out quickly in the US

[@GothPaoki]

But are tarrifs included in that price?

[@MichaelClarkenator]

@@GothPaoki no

[@devanman7920]

@@zahirkhan778 it's not coming to the U.S and if it ever did the price would instantly double

[@AVB_42]

You think only US have teriffs? Asia's tariffs are on the next level. For example, cost of Toyota Camry in pakistan is 107K USD and 70K USD in India. I'm from Singapore and here Toyota Camry costs 160K USD. Americans don't even know what real tariffs are 😂

[@Zavier-ks6cb]

Xiaomi's CEO stated that their expected annual sales target was 80,000 units, but on the evening of March 29, 24 hours after the Xiaomi SU7's launch, the order volume reached 88,898 units. As of today, Xiaomi has delivered 128,700 units, but there are still 120,000 orders yet to be produced.

[@CollaateraL]

Now this is more like it! Great video Doug thank you merry Xmas!

[@ltonos9557]

The Chinese are going all in.

[@bwofficial1776]

All the more reason they need to be isolated until they learn to respect intellectual property, fair trade, and human rights.

[@AZ-rg3rf]

@@bwofficial1776cope cope cope 😆

[@drunkenhobo8020]

​@@bwofficial1776 Uh-huh. Now how does the US view human rights when the other country has oil?

[@johnsullivan8673]

@@bwofficial1776copium

[@dtay8913]

I find it very hypocritical that people in the comments will seriously promote and consider this even though it's chinese made but comment on a Buick video saying not to buy it....because it's Chinese 🤔

[@easonchen8591]

@@dtay8913 if it’s a good car, it’s a good car, folks will like it

[@PositiveLifer]

Basically smarter porsche for $45K, WoW! Doug DeMuro says "I don't know if American buyers would be interested in Chinese cars", the answer is HECK YEAH!... Why do you think Chinese cars are banned in the U.S. Check out the BYD SHARK truck, or any of the many sedans, these Chinese cars will TAKE OVER in a snap.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

it is due to government spying technology the chinese government puts in their cars

[@torvasdh]

This is the car that has fake brembos, right? 2 piston calipers below the 6 pistons covers?

[@fortheloveofnoise]

yes

[@Sakosaga]

This car is an example of why limiting competition is a problem, i understand China can help these companies so they can continue to be a good value but Americans will go for whatever hes the Best quality that's the cheapest. If this ever could come to this market, it would destroy Tesla.

[@isaaccastro4846]

Not tesla but definitely ford, gm….byd makes gasoline cars too

[@Low_pH]

Tesla could benefit from real competitors. They been making dumb decisions (example no physical turn signals)

[@marcusliu9782]

Well Tesla in China also costs less. They charge whatever they can. That’s capitalism for ya.

[@Fc-cb3tn]

@@isaaccastro4846I’m sorry but Chinese petrol cars have nothing on western/Japanese cars. The engines feel lousy and industrial, yet underpowered. It’s a reason why cars like the MG ZS are still called garbage by 90% of car journalists and people who have driven them (in rentals usually)

[@PhantomSquid]

Before everyone keeps praising how hood this car is, please check out the crash at the track during the debut, it has fake brembo with with brake pads so small they would fit on my motorbike.

[@solessoles-hm1dg]

we are sooo done...in a few years everybody will drive a chinese car

[@isaaccastro4846]

You see them everywhere in latam. For us it’s the same ngl

[@bwofficial1776]

I won't. I'll gladly pay more to not support the enemy.

[@JollyGiant19]

@@bwofficial1776 There's not enough of you. Price is king. This is nothing but a replay of the Japanese imports.

[@mydreaminorbit9297]

@@bwofficial1776 I'll join you, plus these thing can't be reliable

[@5mattcolour]

5:35 if you spend any time in urban China you will fully understand why they are bragging about this. Major feature for Chinese customers.

[@Seedyrom247]

Yep. White skin (no tan) is very important

[@essamallawi9605]

Doug is the type of guy who sponsors himself!

[@chuanmingj]

wow finally someone is actually talking about Chinese cars! 👍

[@jeffs6090]

Kyle Connor is reviewing all these from DCar as well on his channels. Out of Spec.

[@whatnowmf1663]

Doug Fart 20:43

[@holdenopp5754]

Rumbled 😂

[@ETr4d3]

A family member just bought this, i haven't driven it yet, but he also has LI9, which I drove for about 3500km and was impressed.

[@NO_MONEY_NO_LOVE]

Ouuu, unbelievable. Video is so fresh, as morning bread 🍞 in bakery...

[@daveram7775]

The moment, when a chinese car built by a cell phone manufacturer has a sportier, better looking steering wheel than tesla or lucid.

[@baddas380]

I have had 2 Xiaomi phones in 7 years, I just recently updated to the new one after more than five year of using my Redmi note 7, best phone for price I have ever owned, I first bought it because I was in Ireland and my Samsung just stopped working I needed something to take me out of a hurry, going back to North America where Im from I never changed it until recently. Really looking forward for this new car for that brand

[@TheYeahh]

1500 hp car for $45k, no wonder they wont let them sell in the US

[@203null]

Nan that one is like $120,000. This one is only 673HP

[@TheYeahh]

@203null he said the price was from 30k to 45k and that the one he has is 40k

[@fortheloveofnoise]

​@@TheYeahhfor this model depending on features, the high power version is different

[@zebulonzabriski46]

Remarkable how careful Doug is crafitng his words not to offend especially his US audiance. But the facts speak for themselves: This car finally marks the end of the European and US car industry. When a Taycan-like car can be offered for a third of the Taycan price, you can try to hide behind tariffs for some time, but in the end the market always wins. It's the basic promise of a global market and a global division of labour that better products can be offered for a lower price to the customer. Lower wages and local availability of natural resources are not unfair competition. Yes, there are Government subsidies in China, but at least in Europe the domestic car industry is also strongly supported by visible and not-so-visible support mechanisms.

[@ouner-699]

You are absolutely right! 👍

[@fortheloveofnoise]

These are EVs, when China makes a gas car that beats the west quality, then I will agree. I will never buy an EV. I also only want a sports car with a manual transmission.

[@miguelc3611]

really love that youtubers go above and beyond now to bring us new vehicles to look at especially Chinese brands

[@ozzinine]

It’s the automotive love child of a Porsche Tycan, a Tesla Model S, and Kia Stinger GT with headlights emblematic of Mclaren

[@driliagor]

And?

[@ericpatterson9116]

Pretty cool mosaic.

[@chartreux1532]

Here in the EU they now put big Tariffs on any Cars made in China, which while on one Hand will definitely make it more difficult to see some, on the other Hand it of course also helps all the European Countries and the Cars they make which i of course support Also for some Reason certain Chinese Brands have a Tariff of 18% for some they can even go up to 35% I wonder what the Differences are there Also Merry Christmas to everyone reading and as we say in Germany, Have a "Guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr" which translates to "Good Slide into the new Year" Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps

[@GothPaoki]

I mean Europe has a 45 tarrifs on Chinese cars but god forbid the chinese tarrif back..

[@d1492ay]

Tariffs may protect your local market from Chinese cars for a time, but it will hurt brands like VW in the long run because they will not be as competitive as they should be in order to survive around the world. VW lost huge market shares in China because they are not able to build cars like this and sell it in China. Keep in mind that Chinese auto market is the largest in the world (26 million cars sold annually) vs. able 2.8 million in Germany or even the US (at about 16 million a year). So, it is critically important for VW to be able to compete in China, because if they can do it there (the most competitive market in the world) then they can compete anywhere!

[@chartreux1532]

@@d1492ay That's a good Point. Especially considering that the Chinese still buy a ton of especially German Cars Though when it comes to other Europan Countries Brands, they don't really sell much in China so them having Tarrifs makes more Sense, but then, they're also all in the EU

[@chartreux1532]

@@GothPaoki Have there been any Complaints of the Chinese putting Tarrifs on Products from European Companies? I know that German Luxury Cars, Supercars and of course Italian etc. Luxury and Supercars cost a ton more in China compared to the EU. So i guess the Chinese have been putting Tarrifs on European Cars since forever anyway

[@kevintang5473]

@@d1492ay And the worst part is the VW plant in China export a bunch of cars back to Europe, and those are subject to tariff too.

[@Youu88Tubee]

this is a good review doug

[@DaBaltimoron]

Did you really just ask why products made in china are cheaper than those made in north america?

[@AVB_42]

Because minimum wage in china is $370 per month 😊

[@LambdaWave84]

​@@AVB_42 Except that the Xiaomi factory is almost 100% automated... So high wages or not, doesn't matter, it's a tiny portion of car value.

[@AVB_42]

@@LambdaWave84 it's not 100% automated but even if it was 100% automated, low wages affects literally every industry indirectly. Also, the main job of "automation" is to assembe the product. Car is made up of thousands of parts and most of them are not manufactured by the brand itself. They outsource the parts from hundreds of different vendors. For example battery, motor, infotainment unit, speakers, tires, wheels, stearing wheel, horn, ac compressor etc etc etc. All these vendors do the real manufacturing. They have hundreds of thousands of labour force and when the official minimum wage is $370 per month, it can directly affect the car price. Now say by similar way, semi trucks are being manufactured. If the cost of semi trucks are low, it directly affects the logistics industry and cheap logistics literally affects every single thing, from cars to a loaf of bread. Same thing happen in each and every industry in china. BTW minimum wage in country like India is $70 -$100 per month and that's why apple has already started iphone manufacturing there.