Down the Rabbit Hole | Rob - Long Island | Talk Heathen 03.03

[@Talenel]

You can't expect God to interfere and prevent crimes and atrocities all the time. He'd have to be some sort of omnipotent and omni benevolent being to do that

[@MarcoMeerman]

What god?

[@ericcole498]

Being Sarcastic is not understood by most people !

[@shellystewart6217]

@@ericcole498 we really need a sarcasm font,, sarcasm and truth are too close these days.

[@lynettekomidar2819]

How excruciatingly ignorant

[@ProtovoxMedia]

I mean, not even Superman can be everywhere at once. Do you think god has a secret identity that also doesn’t exist?

[@aikiiai]

What I learned is Jamie and Mandisa have a lot more patience than I do.

[@LillyTheLonelySock]

You've got _that_ right! I found that _so_ painful to listen to! Imagine that man claiming others don't understand _people._ That's just the Dunning-Kreuger effect in action.

[@magellanicraincloud]

"I'm all powerful and all knowing and benevolent" *people do bad things* "Eh, I'll put that in the 'too hard' basket"

[@jolene6911]

If mental gymnastics was an Olympic sport, this caller would bring home the gold

[@mattjindrak]

He always gets cornered then has a lame dodge and goes right into another corner

[@cameroncimmerius1203]

"To be clear..." Has Rob ever in any of his calls managed to clarify anything?

[@sfprivateer]

Yes. In every call he has successfully clarified that he is fucking stupid and lost.

[@wabbajack2]

"To be clear, I'm going to ignore everything you said and say what I was already going to say anyway." -Rob from Lawng Aylind

[@dannyspitzer1267]

"Rob" has robbed many people of hours of their life

[@sillysausage1370]

Danny Spitzer 😂

[@TheHonestPeanut]

Just like Shamus, when you see the name you can skip it. Just entertainment by listening to a rancid POS and LOL at him.

[@tedgrant2]

Thats a good joke. I like it.

[@atdynax]

Well i was working while listening to him. It is hilarious to listen to him.

[@roofuscat2]

I really want to hear Matt Dillihunty talk to Rob. Jamie is way too nice to this guy.

[@jonny46ba]

it would be a very short conversation..if it was a conversation at all

[@tomvalentino8802]

"Woman weren't considered properly... I'm mean property." The old Freudian ah slip deer Rob.

[@KatKevaKelise]

Deer Rob? Is he a stag now? I thought he was just a religious idiot. Or was THAT an, ah, Freudian Slip DEAR Tom?

[@Messvayne]

"He was like the seed that comes out of your sack" is how that sentence went, ladies and gentlemen

[@jonammons5882]

20 minutes in and this is a WASTE OF TIME. I am going to go hit some water with a hammer for awhile.

[@Robeebert]

I'm worried you'll get more done than Rob has

[@amandarios448]

13 minutes in. Thanks for the head up. I just can't

[@djpatricio]

Quote of the day: “He (Jesus) wos like da seed dat comes outta ya sack” -Rob

[@fgaron2000]

This guy is wildly entertaining!

[@grantwing4942]

"What does god need with a telephone?" I love it

[@marionmetathink3234]

I love how you care to make sure you "meet the person where he's at" to discuss his beliefs as you are comfortable enough to debate without resorting to strawmaning.

[@qixotl]

"I try not to pay attention to politics." "It shows." ROFL

[@nevermanishere]

I couldn't actually dislike this video because I really like you all. But I only made it 17:02 and had to turn this off because I feel like I'm being sermonized by an insane person. peace and donuts

[@barryretmanski4763]

Understandable, this guy is out of his mind... It's a completely pointless conversation to be honest... It didn't get any better...

[@nevermanishere]

You have to know humans to get him. Apparently humans are in the book. But hey, I'm only human. What do I know? lol. @@barryretmanski4763

[@martenw757]

I wish the world Peace & donuts ; )

[@aikiiai]

Me too. My ears hurt.

[@joegillian314]

I don't want to be too hard on Rob because he seems like a nice and decent person, but he has no clue what he's talking about 90% of the time. He is often evasive or just outright refuses to answer some questions, which is concerning because it suggests that he has the awareness to realize there's something wrong with his thinking that will be exposed by answering the question, hence why he refuses to answer.

[@sabin97]

i think maybe his family doesnt visit that often. so he just wants to chat. if he answers directly his argument will be killed in a moment....if he spins in all directions he gets a nice long chat. and since it's apparent that he's a nice person they wont yell at him.

[@wilfordbrimley3319]

24:12 "That's not genocide, that's war. If you kill your own people, that's genocide!" Uhh... so, by this caller's logic, Adolf Hitler didn't commit genocide because they were not his "own people". Wow.

[@tomasroque3338]

I think he was talking about the bible example.

[@wilfordbrimley3319]

@@tomasroque3338 He was, but my point was just that the logic in his justification for the Bible example could also be used to argue that Hitler didn't commit genocide, which is absurd.

[@tomasroque3338]

@MrHotPinkBanana Gay aryans were killed too, Hitler may not have thought of those he killed as "his people", but they were nonetheless.

[@tomasroque3338]

@MrHotPinkBanana Yeah, you're right, I should have thought more about it before responding. I guess it's either up to the majority or to the individual to decide whether they are "their people" or not, and it makes more sense for it to be up to the individual. That is what is relevant to their motivations, and it's not practical to get the majority to vote every time we have to decide on it.

[@tomasroque3338]

@MrHotPinkBanana maybe some of them do, you'd have to ask them.

[@TwoForFlinchin1]

i have cancer because of rob. pray for me.

[@庫倫亞利克]

RAMEN!

[@sabin97]

just wait a little longer and a truck full of thoughts and prayers will arrive

[@cchagrinmetal5574]

Sending my prayer today. Let me know when you get it.

[@jtstar10]

: There comes a point whenyou should just hang up ! Done.

[@araceliamezcua2014]

"Like the seed that comes out of your sack" is why we shouldn't restrict calls like many people in the comments are saying

[@patjacksonpodium]

Super late to the party but lets all take a minute to acknowledge Rob saying "Doo-doo-rot-ah-me." [Chefs kiss]

[@PopCulturing]

Rob is the conversation version of a car crash. It’s a tragedy but I can’t not experience it

[@scottk8559]

I have no acceptable words to describe this person

[@Ploskkky]

Rob has build himself a cozy version of his own nice little god.

[@FourDeuce01]

Rob: “I prayed on it.” Well that explains his repeated failures.😂

[@jkhall9665]

Lot of men can plant a seed. That don't make them "Daddy". Daddy is a special guy.♥️

[@EliSantana]

I love this guy

[@softspokensatan8247]

That quick chess boxing reference

[@chucheeness7817]

Take a shot whenever the insane caller says "You do not understand man/people" and take another shot if it's followed by "You do not understand God"

[@kevinobrien2630]

"Why did Jesus not leave instructions on the creation of the Internet?" Oh please, that's such an inane question that I'm surprised you asked it with a straight face.

[@PhilipLeitch]

If god is all knowing, and all powerful, why does he keep making mistakes in the Bible? Why do things happen that surprise him? Why does he ever need to hold emotions as everything would be as expected.

[@Disturbed0neGaming]

Rob is probably the least liked person in the warehouse he works in. His understanding of basic words and concepts is nonexistent but his arrogance in his ignorance is top shelf. The perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Rob has only read one book and he couldn't even finish it, Let alone comprehend it.

[@professortentacleanus1609]

lol like that one meme where Jesus is sleeping and someone says Jesus Jesus we need you or something and Jesus is like "eh tell them I work in mysterious ways"

[@RonaldStepp]

Rob does seem to imply that those who accept God have perfect understandings of people, even though we are all supposed to be fallible.

[@notbot2648]

So... God couldn't possibly stop Cain from killing Abel because there were... two other people to keep track of? Sure does sound like a lot of work for an all-powerful, omnipresent entity.

[@kaybikerow]

Oh, Flying Spaghetti Monster help us, he's at it again! Even Alice's White Rabbit wouldn't be able to navigate these holes. Mega-Incorrigible.

[@reyramirez5710]

Rob... GIBBERING FOR JESUS. 🤣🤣🤣

[@jonny46ba]

next week Jamie and Mandisa attempt to nail a Jelly to a wall....................

[@davidmandell1727]

Barry Kripke is trolling Talk Heathen now that TBBT is about to end.

[@gpl211212]

i've been watching atheist discussions, debates etc. for many years and i'm still waiting for the intelligent theists to join in, it is scary to realize the sad state of human reasoning...religion is arrested development.

[@hansj5846]

It's apparently impossible to defend Christianity without being incredibly dishonest.

[@deandemarest4438]

If you could cover ignorance with Teflon, you'd get Rob.

[@RonaldStepp]

I really wish Jamie would add some more clarification requests to his repertoire other than "to be clear."

[@visforvegan8]

Dunning Krueger.

[@tedgrant2]

The best way to understand a god is to have a look at her design spec. That's all you got. It's different with a car, because you can look at the car and maybe do a test drive. With a god, there's nothing to test.

[@scottc1857]

There is no design spec... The only people who think so are people who don't have even the most shockingly basic understanding of the world and 8th grade science. So uh... By looking at the design spec that does not exist anyone who's actually paying attention is forced to conclude said designer doesn't exist.

[@tedgrant2]

@@scottc1857 Yeah, but religious people are always telling us about the design spec of their god. Infinite power, outside of time, perfect, good, forgiving, intelligent, good looking, male etc Recently, the spec has been altered. He no longer helps the Jews to kill their neighbours. And his power has been reduced to logically maximal so he CAN create a rock too heavy to lift.

[@scottc1857]

Right, it's one of those never ending sources of hilarity and frustration for me. Having been raised religious though it honestly did upset me quite a bit that God would help and talk to what felt like everyone but me. It would honestly be pretty nice to have an imaginary friend in my head who could help me through tough times and who would have comforted me the time I lost half a lung from an embolism and MRSA running wild throughout my system. Yet, throughout that incredibly painful and horrifying experience, including almost 6 full weeks I couldn't even have ice chips and got all my nutrition through IV fluids (developed an allergy to the tube feeding goop), and the couple months after the worst parts where I had to learn to walk again it sure would have been nice to have that imaginary friend. I know for a lot of people the whole atheism versus theism thing isn't super personal, but after that experience I had and the distinct pain and dejection I felt at the idea that, if there was a God, I was somehow so unlovable and unworthy as to not ever warrant a single second of soothing or comfort through all of it has made it pretty personal to me. The whole religion doesn't hurt people thing went way out the window for me during those months laying in hospital beds feeling a crushing depression because somehow I wasn't worthy of any outside help while the junkie down the hall had Jesus by his side the whole time. Religion is terribly destructive to those who are most vulnerable in extremely insidious ways.

[@tedgrant2]

@@scottc1857 I am upset to hear of your troubles and i hope your recovery is complete. It is interesting that you didn't find any help from a religion. Many people claim that their faith helped them through difficult times. Personally my confidence in medical science would be my saviour.

[@scottc1857]

@@tedgrant2 yeah, it was the same for me. God didn't do jack as far as I can tell but there's a surgeon or two who more than earned their pay keeping me alive and putting everything back together shockingly well in the aftermath. It's very frustrating hearing people credit an imaginary being who is nowhere to be found in hospitals and ignoring the very real professionals who actually did something for them.

[@paulmax3185]

This guy has his own religion where Jesus and God are two different gods! That is a new one on me! hahaha

[@patriceriksson7924]

Did anyone count all the ”To be clears” ?

[@rodneydaliege8909]

I know this show is all about having conversations, but you should probably drop calls when they start defending genocide. At that point they're beyond reason.

[@capthavic]

Rob: "You blame God for everything!" He is responsible for everything!

[@paulmax3185]

The people on that island have no immune resistance to outsiders. They had almost been wiped out from illnesses that were carried ied there.

[@anvb5a1]

The omnipotent god is working on solving the situation in the middle-east, he's doing his best! ...

[@El_Naito]

On this type of calls i rally miss Matt, This caller got way to many chances and way to many Patience given

[@mattjindrak]

Vinny Ru back on the horn

[@DBringmann]

Come on Rob ...God just thought Hitler to defend himself, he lived in a kill or be killed world.... what else could he have done?

[@RonaldStepp]

You know how some things REALLY bug you when you notice them? For the love of GOD, try something other than "TO BE CLEAR" all the time Jamie!!!!!!!

[@tedgrant2]

In First Samuel chapter 15 and Numbers chapter 31 the are two stories about the enemies of Israel. They are very exciting stories about how the god of Israel helped Israel destroy those enemies. He gave specific instructions, including killing all the women and children with the edge of the sword. The only exception was the virgins. They were kept to help with the washing up and cleaning.

[@Lambert1386]

Bada bing bada boom. Joey bag-o-donuts.

[@83yobtab]

39:15 Genesis 1 : 28 "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth." Psalm 127 : 3-5 3 "Children are a heritage from the Lord, offspring a reward from him. 4 Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are children born in one’s youth. 5 Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them." So I guess god needed the bubonic plague to solve the overpoulation problem that he created.

[@marionmetathink3234]

At 38"00 : I think that what he refers to would be of social dynamics in a context of global collapse. Let's say, ressources shortage, climate disruption resulting in a change of conditions rendering human species unsustainable. Basically, people would get so desperate with famine etc... And without the structures of education (apocalyptic world), they'd resort to religion... Which is "praying of weak" tactic religion already uses. That scenario is disturbing to me, because possible... Oh boy did that series disturb me : the handmaid's tale. Anyways, Christians as a death cult are comfortable with the idea that we run straight to a wall while we attempt to change direction (I'm thinking Secular Humanism, with a hint of "wtf let's do a 180° in how we use our resources, cause shit getting hot!". 38"38 : Aaaaand there it is. "In what world ? - A Desperate one."... D..kh..d !

[@mikebowlesmusic4515]

Rob, rob, rob, rob, rob..........please take a serious look at what you’re saying....for your own sake, if nobody else’s.

[@MrShigura]

Incredibly disrespectful to the audience for the guest host to be constantly on her phone texting during the show.

[@richardplinston9488]

She wasn't texting, she was Googling 'genocide'.

[@MrShigura]

Richard Plinston That would make sense except she’s doing it almost constantly the entire show...

[@wilfredmay5231]

Beware, Rob could be living next door to you!

[@KatKevaKelise]

Only in America (well, mostly anyway...)... That shit isn’t normal here (Australia). That’s why we got rid of Ken Ham and sent him to you guys instead, because in America people take his idiocy seriously. I’m so lucky I’m not American!

[@Revanbzn]

What the hell was this guy talking about

[@andyrihn1]

God could, by any definition of him, could appear simultaneously to everyone on planet earth and comprehensively explain his will. And if that violates free will then you have to explain Satan

[@KatKevaKelise]

He could could? That’s pretty cool 😎

[@righthandofdoom77]

I think Rob is Charlie Zelenoff or related to him in some way.

[@Abraxas1177]

I wonder what kind of incestuous breeding generated Rob. What a waste of food, air, and water!

[@Villy3420]

I can't listen to this one minute longer frick

[@snake_hole2886]

Jamie looks very spiffy in this episode. Miss him :(

[@isaacpriestley]

This is Victor from Brooklyn, right? Ask him about flat earth!

[@kdfmvkdfvd]

Hitlers slogan was 'gott mit uns' (God with us) that's all there's to say about it

[@RichardRoy2]

Not. Not so soon. Can't handle two in a row.

[@roguebotanist]

So let me get this straight. Jesus was a man and accepted the offer to be a guaranteed 100 % God if he is tortured, then dies for 3 days then lives again? I guess there's sacrifice but the end game sounds pretty damn good. How do I get in on this racket?

[@colinmarkus1408]

This caller is the most boring repeat caller I've ever heard between Talk Heathen and The Atheist Experience.

[@videomania666]

Rob (ber) the question dodger.

[@nuoiptertermer4484]

Imaginary book? The book isn't imaginary. The god is.

[@Excidium1221]

You are talking to a brick wall with Rob. He has his world view and will not change his mind. He has an excuse (in his mind "reason") for everything that apposes that view. He's a waste of time and energy.

[@martinburchill6359]

Even when Cain & Abel were dupposed to have existed, his god didb't have an excesdive number of other peoplre in exidtence to take sway his attention. He vould havr intervened but just didn't bother. Saying that there are now too numerous fir gif to intervene is just ludicrous. Maybe he just doesn't exist, if he is so impotent.

[@RonaldStepp]

Why didn't Jesus locate and destroy all the Old Testaments when he replaced God?

[@moonled]

I wonder if Rob thinks that Russia is invading Ukraine in "self defense".

[@chrisb9740]

The caller is deluded.

[@dogearflopper7011]

This guy is seriously trying to justify genocide.

[@eccod]

Jesus has one hell of a refractory period

[@smilinfool]

Rob needs psychological help. So says the lord

[@walterreese9575]

Why are they wasting all this time with this fool?

[@Walter_Sobchak_43]

Rob really has created his own religion. 90% of his explanations aren't found anywhere in the Bible.

[@jayjonah83]

He's just making up his own fan fiction

[@tedgrant2]

The reason the god of Israel allows sin is very simple. He is outside space and time.

[@namewithheld7835]

God *does* intervene in people's lives and shows himself.. he also stops crime before it happens.. just like batman... unfortunately, we're on the _other_ planet 🤨

[@ryanruggero9957]

The tribe he is talking about is the North Sentenalese of the coast of India. They will kill any outsider on sight. They had some bad experiences with British Imperialists.

[@burningmisery]

Rob needs to find friends in real life so that he doesn't have to bother other people with his bullshit.

[@庫倫亞利克]

Please stop taking Rob's calls...this isn't a petition, just a plea. He is....too...annoying.

[@RossTheNinja]

Doodaranamy?

[@renamarkus663]

It is possible, if the circumstances were dire, for someone who is gay to willingly have heterosexual sex for the purpose of procreation even if they really really don't want to. Also, bisexual people exist......

[@aierce]

A better response is: so what. The fact a person can or can not have children have nothing to do with anything.

[@tomvalentino8802]

Honestly. He's playing a character. He's not real.

[@kingjuggalo4335]

Rob and Tony fron st Louis should hook up.

[@carolinenagel7085]

An angel stopped Abraham from killing his Isaac. Read your bible, Rob, and stop being dishonest.

[@michelerich1590]

ugh. Rob. Stop.

[@tessalyyvuo1667]

The argument about gays not being able to have children would be invalid even without modern medical technology. Most ants, bees, wasps, bumblebees, termites and naked mole rats never have biological offspring of their own but help to take care of other offspring. And seen that us humans also live in large societies, I think it makes perfect biological sense if not all of us have biological offspring of our own and just help to run the society and/or raise adopted children. Anyone who thinks Hitler was godless should check out Ian Kershaw's biography of the man. He used religious rhetoric and appeals to a god all the time. Even if he wasn't a Christian (and Richard Carrier has made convincing arguments that he was), he definitely believed in a god. And so did Reinhard Heydrich, based on Robert Gerwarth's biography of him. Speaking of free will, Yahweh didn't seem to have any problem violating the pharaoh's free will in Exodus. And if we couldn't handle the appearance of god, why does the Bible describe a wrestling match between Yahweh and Jacob in Genesis? Not only Jacob managed to handle god's presence but could hold his own against him in a contact sport.

[@troysmith7623]

You guys dress nice not to be funny but did you guys just came from church ?

[@vCoralSandsv]

Oof