Lexus IS500 vs BMW M340i - DID I BUY THE RIGHT CAR???

[@dwnshft]

Special thanks to our Patreons for their support of the channel! M340i or IS500?

[@hhaste]

M340i

[@hamsterbrigade]

Neither, you should have bought an LC500(if going Lexus) or an M2(if going BMW). =)

[@cardiacresp]

Everyone keeps going “but in 15 years blah blah blah”. No one has any idea how the market will look like in 15 years and what cars will actually be considered classics. We have no idea what car enthusiasts will like in 15 years and whether the IS500 will be considered a classic. The V8 sounds nice sure and has some character but the car handles like ass, has an already massively dated interior and the transmission is garbage.

[@ARentz07]

@@cardiacresp I don't care about 15 years. I'm enjoying my IS500 now.

[@Emilthehun]

340i. The lexus is for old people. Bmw is for young people to have fun.

[@zacharyadamcruz]

Whenever ppl compare Lexus to bmw I always say the same thing, it’s an apple to oranges comparison. Apple to apple would be Mercedes to bmw. Nobody buys a Lexus because they are looking for the most dynamic and engaging ride, even though the Lexus is certainly capable, however not as capable as a bmw. And nobody buys a bmw because they are looking for a reliable car that will last and retain its value. They’re both very different cars. Lexus is for those who want reliability, luxury, build quality, longevity, and high retention value. The bmw is for those who want the most engaging driving experience, fast ride, great technology, and of course, whatever prestige the European brand eludes.

[@user-ki1vd3ti8j]

So many people find that hard to understand

[@tommywilson1906]

Nd let's not forget, the lexus actually turns heads and makes people wow especially when they get into it ......at least mine does lol

[@player764]

@@tommywilson1906Lexus does not do that, unless you’re a car enthusiast (even then only Lexus owners think that, most other car enthusiasts make fun of Lexus by calling it a toyota), the average person thinks like that about BMW’s, Mercedes, Porsche, etc

[@scoopsf]

​@@player764not true at all lol Ive owned Audi and bmw and then I got a Lexus . Never going back lol the ride , the comfort. They are not slow ! For daily driving and long ownership they are amazing.

[@player764]

@@scoopsf Not true what? I'm saying Lexus does not turn heads, and trust me, as a owner of a 440i, I get a whole lot more eyes than my friend who I ride with who owns a IS350 F sport. I'm not denying the luxury and comfort of Lexus, but it's just not seen as prestigious as the German luxury/performance brands.

[@alexkid408]

NA V8, reliable, stunning look and rare. You can't be wrong

[@dwnshft]

Excellent car 💪

[@Mike-cz2yw]

Rare for a reason

[@Anthony-dk7de]

It's Lexus... right from the start. Germans are the h-*@*kerz of cars. Lexus is the lady. ❤

[@ditiprel4]

While both cars are excellent performance sedans, the IS500's v8 sound is unmatched.

[@floggyWM1]

is500 stock exhaust is way too quite

[@Anthony-dk7de]

​@@floggyWM1X Force exhaust w/ muffler delete sounds way better than any 3.0 will

[@rickjames6867]

The Lexus is just better to me personally. I could look at that car all day, and never get tired of it. 💙✌️😊

[@mogulme6190]

I think they’re beautiful, I drool over them when I see them out and about

[@Boogieman_1989Garbage]

Yes for sure 😅😅😅😅,that bmw is full of plastic

[@dimochik13]

Thank you for such an unbiased review. Great work. A friend of mine has m340 and it's fast. But even after driving it, I still went with the IS 500 and have 0 regrets. They are different cars, but fun in their own way.

[@dwnshft]

hard not to like good cars! both cars here are brilliant and bring their own personality

[@likunjian1850]

v8 for the win

[@stonedotdrives]

How you like the IS? I got one coming in June. IS500

[@dwaynebolan2583]

Wonderful content! Can you please do a comparison video between the F80 versus M340? I am in the market for one of them

[@dimochik13]

@@stonedotdrives I assume you test drove it and know what it is. Downshift hit the nail on the head. The car needs to be pushed to be fun. I had an e92 m3 and missed the V8, so i jumped on this when it came out. It's not as sharp as the M3, but definitely has a character. And a super sexy car. I love mine. One more selling point, it's so unique. No one knows what it is and there are so few of them.

[@zmir813]

I’ve owned several Lexus vehicles. Including a 2015 IS 350 F Sport. I will always favor them for the long haul. But the M340i would be a lot more engaging. However, that V8 from Lexus is bulletproof. Great video!

[@hhaste]

B58 is equally as bulletproof

[@dwnshft]

thanks!

[@dwnshft]

#B58isthelordsengine

[@zmir813]

@@hhaste I can’t disagree with you. The B58 is my favorite BMW engine. It’s the only one I would get.

[@Trussme96]

@@hhaste The main worry would be electronics and plastic accessories in the engine bay where BMW is concerned. They've definitely improved compared to the 2000s and 2010s.

[@V8Brah]

You might have bought the better car but in 15 years more people will be searching the internet for a used IS500. Torque...you can get in any electric car.

[@jacobstrouble6631]

Yeah that's the reason. Because people will be looking for used 15 yr old IS500s. Stop it.

[@pavu8469]

@@jacobstrouble6631what?? Plenty of people are still looking for used ISF's. Which is why they are still worth 35-45k.

[@jerm_]

@@jacobstrouble6631 yes actually. ISF is damn near 15 years old and still cost more than a 2020 m340i. is500 is gonna hold its value cause of that v8, whereas m340i depreciates once you leave the parking lot 😂

[@vtecondeck3065]

​@jerm_ Boyh are actually really good. This era of bmw is at it's peak reliability and performance. The b58 is considered to be as reliable as the 2jz hence why toyota decided to put it in the supra

[@jacobstrouble6631]

@@pavu8469 Sure, I looked for a used one lately myself but it damn sure wasn't more than 5 years old.

[@blu_is500]

Both cars are great, but have different missions. I personally did not want anything turbo’ed or electrified. However, it had to be a luxury car first and a speed demon second. You guys proved in this video that you can’t drive spec sheets, the car has to talk you. These cars are too expensive not to include an emotional component. Thank God there’s something for everyone, thanks for posting! 😎

[@dwnshft]

this dude gets it to a T! thanks for watching once again!

[@ARentz07]

Well said!

[@Stylo2007]

Good review..My options were TL Type-S, M340i, Tesla M3P and IS500. After a month of test drives I was left with M3P vs IS500, at this point the choice was very clear…NAV8 IS500. 10-months in and no regrets.

[@petersu33]

Same journey as mine, after test drove m3p multiple times, I got myself an is500.

[@Stylo2007]

@@petersu33 Congrats and Enjoy !!

[@aryansaple7865]

@@petersu33 Had the same decision and went with the M440i..... IS500 was great if it wasnt for the year waiting time and not allowed to spec.

[@boostbrigade]

It's weird I love bmw and lexus. Many people cheer for one brand or the other but I appreciate both for different reasons. The correct answer is both. Although if forced to take 1 it would be the lexus because of the NA V8. I respect lexus for still staying in the V8 game despite the heavy push for ev and engine downsizing.

[@ryanmatthew511]

Lexus really messed up that V8..its just not FUN!! I test drove one and I just thought it was a boring Lexus unless you floored it.

[@electrikoptik]

For me it's real simple. The BMW M340i you lease but the IS500 you buy and keep.

[@JXiong-zo8ig]

😅😅😅

[@thespectator5259]

This was true prior to the introduction of the B58 engine. Reliability has dramatically gone up since 2020. Lexus meanwhile is having growing pains with their inline 4 turbo engines. Lease if you get a Lexus with 4 pot Turbo. Buy and keep any BMW with a B58 engine and or a Lexus with a NA engine config.

[@timw2083]

I have an IS500 but think both are great choices. As you said, it all comes down to the driver's preference. The awd would be a big factor if I needed a winter ready car.

[@dwnshft]

indeeeeedddd

[@stonedotdrives]

How’s the IS? I got a deposit on one coming in June.

[@ARentz07]

@@stonedotdrives I have one as well. I've had it for about a year and two months and put 11,000 miles on it. It has had no issues and is always a pleasure to drive! And it rides well enough that my wife has gone to sleep in the passenger seat. It's pretty cool to have a car that can tear it up on a back road and make V-8 noises while also being so comfy.

[@stonedotdrives]

@@ARentz07 that’s what I like to hear man. I hear that everyone that has one loves it. It’s a rare car it seems. You don’t see many and if you do they are sold before they get to the dealer so you can’t test drive really. My dealer tried to get me 3 and all of them sold and were claimed before then. Luckily they got me in with a stock order coming in June.

[@ARentz07]

@@stonedotdrives Nice, good luck with the purchase and whatnot. And yes, it seems like people who know the IS 500 is the car for them are happy with it. The only reason I've even remotely contemplated trading mine is just to experience other cars. But so far, I am not willing to part with it yet. 😂I think we aren't going to get another one of these in the future.

[@abhisheknauduri7013]

I bought the 2023 Lexus IS 350 F Sport RWD last year. I was really tempted to get the IS 500 but those are $15k+ more but I love the 350. It drives so well and it's smooth and the take off is so nice! I got the Ultrasonic Blue Mica 2.0 with white interior. Absolutely stunning 🔥

[@aliraad9515]

How's your mpg and range? I really like the 350, but with 28 highway mpg, it seems a bit low for a V6. I have a long commute and was wondering if it's practical.

[@abhisheknauduri7013]

@aliraad9515 I average between 21-23 mpg combined. If you drive more on the highway then you get more. My range on a full tank shows 330 miles. I mean I don't mind it since I try to take it in the highway the most whenever possible. But, the drive is amazing and smooth and so nice. The sound of pure NA V6 especially on sport mode is 🔥 This car isn't built for mpg so if that's what matters most to you then I would explore more but if you want decent mpg and good drive then for sure go for it. You should test drive one. For me, as long as I get above 20 mpg combined I'm happy.

[@wonkydada]

Proud IS500 owner, 16 months later and still zero regrets. I did consider the M340i but without a need for AWD I followed the intoxicating roar of the V8! Also glad this was not a full-on ISF, it keeps the ride comfy for commuting

[@Eddy-09]

In my opinion the M340i is the superior car in this category (sporty car). With just wider and stickier tires on the M340i alone, that’s going to help it take turns harder, come out of exits harder, stop better, and feel more planted. You’ll also be able to fully take off traction control to put down all of its power, and have it grip with the new tires. Both very awesome cars though!

[@pmiahky]

I‘m about to get rid of the Bridgestones on my new IS500. It’s not a good tire. I have a 2024 that I bought in Dec. Better tires will help.

[@ARentz07]

​@@pmiahky That's the first thing any IS 500 owner should do to their car. I put some Continental Extreme Contact Sport 02 tires on mine, and wow, what a difference. It actually puts the power down now.

[@R1val909]

@@pmiahkywhat tires are u going with?

[@pmiahky]

@@ARentz07Nice! I put those on my previous Acura. Debating between those and Pilot Sports for my IS500

[@pmiahky]

@@R1val909Contis or Michelin Pilot Sports

[@Bkalldayy314]

Ive had my IS500 for about 6 months now and all I can say is that the faster you go the more fun this car is to drive, it really shines top end.

[@omars8957]

I have a m340 with the adaptive M suspension and staggered setup (265 rear michelin ps4s). Night and day difference. Lexus is still a great car and has that cool factor. Both good options

[@98ws6m6cvert]

Yea I think the heating and cooling tire package would’ve been more beneficial in this scenario. Having the big breaks would’ve made up the difference.

[@omars8957]

@@98ws6m6cvert I have that as well.

[@crunchyblack2224]

What is your winter setup? Do you like the non run flat tires better for summer?

[@omars8957]

@@98ws6m6cvert I have the package. That’s why I have the wider tires in the back

[@omars8957]

@@crunchyblack2224 I live in California so that’s my setup for the whole year

[@madpistol]

Put some PS4S tires on both the BMW and the Lexus, and switch out the rear on the BMW for a 255 instead of the 225... BMW will be significantly faster. I love the Lexus 5.0 V8, but after experiencing both cars, the BMW is so much better on handling, it's not even a contest. The Lexus will hold its value better, but honestly, that's about it.

[@dwnshft]

💯

[@scholz222]

This! I have them on my 500. Makes a HUGE difference. Completely different car with the right tires.

[@dorron2595]

BMW most plastic in engine,no contest Ur rite.not with Toyota..

[@hawkinsjd11]

I test drove an RC 350 and a M240i both 2017. The transmission was completely absent in the Lexus. We went with the M240i and it is a blast to drive and own. If Lexus provided a proper sport transmission I would have gotten the Lexus for the seats alone. Also, get better tires. Contintental extreme contact sport 02 would work wonders.

[@ARentz07]

FWIW, the IS 500 has a different transmission from an RC 350. In fact, the RC F and IS 500 share the same transmission. It's the Aisin AA80E. The 350 models get the AA81E.

[@frankly5171]

The Lexus IS500 is a future collector’s car that will make it to 500k miles easily with its NA non stressed engine and bulletproof build quality. It will still be on the road years after the bmw is rusting in some junkyard.

[@Apoc447]

Both cars are awesome for different reasons, but I’d choose the Lexus - because I don’t think I’d buy another sedan again unless it was an updated ISF. I know the Lexus is slower and will not get the aftermarket support….it just something magical about a V8 sedan.

[@JayShah910]

If you remotely care about good tech in a car, m340i by a landslide. Was gonna go lexus, but settled on BMW. Simply because the tech in Lexus was bad. Even in a high end luxury car, the lexus has no wireless carplay. It just rubbed me the wrong way and made me realize how dated everything else was in the IS500. I want a car that has the tech I need in a daily driver.

[@XxICYxRAINxX]

Lexus is dated in general… for the price it’s not worth missing out on modern day necessities. Not to mention the 10k MSRP price difference… M3 would be the competition to the ls500 and it wipes the floor… Granted if Lexus just made some tweaks to get it up to date it be a amazing competition but otherwise meh

[@M3FortiZay]

Literally the same for me. Interior was just too dated for how much you spend. If Lexus stepped that up I’d have one.

[@ln5747]

You can buy a wireless dongle adapter for like $100 for Carplay.

[@JayShah910]

@@ln5747lol, sure, but what they don't tell you about that wireless dongle experience is how laggy and unreliable it becomes. native wireless carplay integration is way more reliable. hence why m340i is still better imo.

[@ln5747]

@@JayShah910 a good adapter is no different to built in. Mine has certainly been spot on for 3 years now. Furthermore, wired has its advantages.

[@sm_rcf1156]

rcf owner and m340i owner. M340i wins by a long shot as far as performance. Lexus sound & reliability that's about it.

[@dwnshft]

Pretty much yeah

[@dannytu0322]

In 8 years the Lexus still holds it's resale value while the BMW can be sold for pennies.

[@sm_rcf1156]

@@dannytu0322 Difference between you and i is that I'll just be buying my next car and not care about the depreciation ...... I don't really wanna own a car for more then 10 years

[@sm_rcf1156]

@@dannytu0322 Sounds like a salty lexus owner take. When you own both you can see thru the bias.

[@dannytu0322]

@@sm_rcf1156 No need to get defensive, I merely want to point out added differences between the two brands. As an investor it’s obvious one brand is a smarter purchase than the other.

[@i.d.6492]

Despite loving V8 I'd still probably go with b58. Just as bulletproof and has more modification potential. Lexus V8 reminds of huyndai Genesis 5.0 R Spec obviously faster and lighter

[@b58forever]

not much faster than genesis r spec

[@ARentz07]

@@b58forever The IS 500 has over 40 extra horsepower and weighs almost 300 pounds less than the Genesis. 0-60 may be only 0.3 of a second difference, but the IS 500 will be faster all the time.

[@bigjdm5460]

@@b58foreveryou guys have to stop. The 2UR-GSE is miles above a Hyundai V8. I’m not even going to go into detail. The 2jz has more tuning potential than a B58, and cast iron block is stronger than the aluminum B58. Stock block for stock block the B58 isn’t more reliable. 2jz came out 30 years ago. BMW just now gave you guys a solid turbo inline 6 and you guys think a new level has been unlocked . Relax.

[@b58forever]

@@bigjdm5460 dude you dont know what you talking about b58 have forged pistons cast and crank and is closed deck as well you cant denied is a fucking amaizing reliable engine

[@bigjdm5460]

@@b58forever no where did I list the b58 internals in my comment. I said the block itself is aluminum. Nor did I say it was open deck. I did say stock bottom end doesn’t hold more power for longer than a stock bottom end 2jz. The 2jz bottom end is not forged on top of the reliability it displays.

[@qnunyuh8417]

As s F owner looking into getting a BMW its a hard choice, but I'd probably get the lexus if I could only have one.

[@sergiogarcia9822]

225 on the M340?? Mine has 255 on the rear and 225 on the front, still small but 225 is just too little.

[@aus10li]

Hi, it's me again lol. Being the rare person that went from a GSF to now an M340i LCI, both cars are great and I'm sure the IS500 is good as well. Other than the V8, I don't really miss the GSF much. The M340i matches (or exceeds) the speed of the F cars in stock form and does it while achieving damn near double the mpg's of the Lexus. Also, obviously the b58 can be easily modded to be crazy fast whereas the Lexus you'd have to spend a lot to be only slightly quicker. Tech is also way better in the M340i

[@akuragang1990]

But the m340i has the crappy b58 that burns oil, leaks oil, burns coolant, etc. I want high quality and rock solid. But fragile and cheap where the engine is already leaking oil everywhere and burning oil every week with only 1500 miles on the engine brand new. It's not even hard to decide which one to buy. Only the sheeps and euro junk fanboys would pick the euro junk car.

[@alj7094]

​@@akuragang1990 telling me you never actually owned a B58 without telling me you never actually owned a B58.

[@gaara4667]

@@akuragang1990Yh yh we get it. You never owned a bmw with that engine but feel qualified to run your mouth on something you have no experience with. Classic idiots on the internet.

[@gaara4667]

@@alj7094I know right. Goddamn idiot don’t got a clue. He rather his outdated car because of shit V8 that got no turbos.

[@2ZZGE100]

Really good review. Finally a review where IS500 is being compared to its most direct rival. Funny thing is, the m340i weighs 3900+ lbs like the IS500 so it so not lighter on paper. I think IS500 did well. Being an RCF CF/TVD owner and having driven the IS500, chassis and suspension are way softer,. RCF feels way more stiff and has a heavier and more direct steering in SPORT+ so Lexus made it an F-Sport for that reason where it is mildly more tuned than my IS350 F-Sport and all about the V8, but like the m340i it does not have great ties either. It ran a faster lap time. I understand the argument about the m340i tires, but the point I an making, the IS500 would benefit greatly likewise from much better tires as well. Ideally, both cars should be tested with the same tires. Anyways, I think the IS500 did very well

[@datniquardo2693]

Amazing comparison, been waiting for a direct comparison of the two

[@dwnshft]

glad to be of service

[@R0B__]

I would take the lexus IS500 over 340m. Are you kidding me?

[@BigdisplacementI6]

IS500 is nice with the NA V8 but BMW's highly praised B58 3.0 I6 is magic :) Smooth, effortless, powerful and frugal on fuel. Used in big SUVs like the X7 to Supra sports cars. It's so versatile to be fast yet a family hauler. Reliable and amazing :) I say M340i because it's got a gem of an engine and the car has the better chassis - 2018-2019 with numerous updates. The IS is OLD - 12 yrs old and very dated.

[@gordonyz4]

It's a bit strange how "better" the struct suspension on M340i actually is, vs double wishbone on IS. I have B58, it's powerful but a bit boring, not much rumble and not very high reving. My B58 also pop and crackle which makes it more interesting.

[@yousef.al-assaf]

How's the chassis on the M340i better? The IS500 has the GS F chassis basically, different than its IS siblings. Only the welding points on the IS500 makes its chassis more rigid than the M340i!

[@marcelrodriguez2067]

​​@@yousef.al-assaflets see which ome will hold their resale value more in 10 years 😂

[@yousef.al-assaf]

@@marcelrodriguez2067 For sure the IS500, not even a question.

[@ARentz07]

I think the fact that the IS's engine isn't in SUVs makes it cool. It's made only for performance vehicles.

[@latino914]

The M340 is just on another level and cannot be touched. The IS500 fair comparison would be a TLX type S, Q50 Red Sport & Genesis G70.

[@ishmaelmccormick4678]

G70? 😂

[@ARentz07]

And yet, they still preferred the IS as a daily. But OK, it can't be touched in all the clout categories.

[@latino914]

@@ishmaelmccormick4678 don't sleep on the Genny

[@ankurshah2323]

Agreed, I think the RS3 is the only thing it really compares to

[@mogulme6190]

That’s a lie

[@embiggens1]

Based on what I've heard you say you prefer in a driving experience, Ohlins coilovers, a good monoball upgrade, and more tire will transform your life. If you were local I'd let you take mine out. I run a 265/235 setup on mine too, just like the Lexus. Don't think you can do that with X-Drive though.

[@dwnshft]

I think you're probably right!

[@evolve777]

This vlog unlike so many other vlogs, was very objective and honest. Great job guys.

[@Toyota4Life]

F Sport Performance ( not a F model ) Lexus has more soul than the BMW… and the lexus looks better. Lexus is better it’s the more cool car also the bmw is more pedestrian

[@Kimchiguy79]

Fantastic comparison video - keep up the great content! My partner and I have a '22 Lexus IS500 and '22 BMW M3 Comp xDrive. We're often asked which one we like better but it's like choosing one child over another lol. Even compared to our full fat ///M the Lexus never feels like it's the second rate car to take out. The M3 has pure exhilarating thrills and adrenalin rush but the IS500 is satisfying to the soul.

[@jesuitscholar2022]

name checks out. M3 is light years ahead in tech and performance not even a comparison. What’s crazy is your saying this meanwhile we’re getting the m-lite version comparison to the 500 and the v8 is still losing to BMW’s mid level inline 6. Once again name checks out ..

[@bashfullJ88]

Next compare the M340i to the Cadillac CT4 V Blackwing.

[@rickjames6867]

Blackwing all day. I actually prefer the CT-4 over the CT-5. Those cars are unbeatable. 💙✌️

[@stonedotdrives]

I got a deposit on a 2024 IS500. ETA is June but I love the M340i as well. Can’t wait.

[@ratedm90]

Get both 😂

[@stonedotdrives]

@@ratedm90 haha I wish man

[@ratedm90]

@@stonedotdrives I’m not gonna lie I’m the biggest Toyota/ Lexus fan boy. I had 2 Is250s and like 7 Camrys prior but man the new 340 is amazing. BMW has really improved the quality.

[@ARentz07]

@@stonedotdrives Honestly having both would be a dream. But both cars are pretty good in similar ways. It feels like it'd be a little redundant. I have an IS 500, and honestly, the more interesting engine in the Lexus was the main reason why I chose it over the BMW.

[@misterdragzon]

I daily a RWD M340 and drove an LC500 for 2 weeks this summer. The BMW tuned LSD and ZF8 punch so far above their price it’s crazy.

[@jlau4083]

Reliability, comfort, and v8 all day long. That’ll be a classic.

[@Drywall-cb7xv]

Went with BMW , interior on the Lexus just felt to tight , to dated , and no all wheel drive . live in Canada not a good choice , went with the m 340 xdrive beautiful car , and scary fast ,great daily .

[@Hoonin]

A 2023 used 340i is like 1/2 price to 3/4 of a is500. V8 reigns supreme

[@ARentz07]

At the end of the day, both are great cars. It is great to have options. And frankly, I think either one is a great buy in the segment.

[@markc9949]

Lease: M340i Buy and keep for 10 years: IS500

[@ifeanyiikemefuna3706]

Old news. The B58 is a solid motor

[@marshallmxtakeslzz]

​@@ifeanyiikemefuna3706 the motor ain't even the problem is just.....everything else

[@ifeanyiikemefuna3706]

@@marshallmxtakeslzz like what exactly? There are lots of BMWs above 150k miles, I'm at 70,687 miles, car rides like it did when I drove it of the lot in 2019. Nothing but regular maintenance People buy uncertified used cars and complain later.

[@akuragang1990]

@@ifeanyiikemefuna3706 Where do you clowns get info that the b58 is a solid motor? From the rest of the sheeps? That POS motor burns oil, leaks oil, burns coolant, Vanos system problems, etc. Are you people really that DMB and SLOW?

[@ifeanyiikemefuna3706]

@@akuragang1990 you've got a lot of anger issues. See a therapist!

[@ankurshah2323]

I'd definitely go with the Lexus but hesitant due to RWD since I live in the Midwest

[@revejmal]

Dudes first drive in each was biased toward the lexus flr some reason

[@JacesOwnWorld]

If you want a “reliability” first car, with very “sub par” performance, get the Lexus. If you want a beast of a performance vehicle, that will eat that Lexus in every category except “reliability”, while being more comfortable, ergonomic, and fuel efficient, while not have an outdated cheap interior, get the BMW.

[@scoopsf]

Not true at all 😂 I guess it all comes down to what you like and perceive as a perfect car. I've owned Audi and bmw , I traded my Audi A8 S8 for a Lexus Ls500 f sport and I ain't ever going back. It's fast , comfortable, very responsive and it breaks necks . I get more compliments on my Lexus than I ever did on any German car I've owned lol

[@Yoomaro]

Exactly!!!

[@robsnow2099]

M340 by a mile, or the gap between the two on a dig….also a mile lol

[@geefim2144]

To 60 then watch the IS reel it in. Roll race them next. 😊

[@Bruno-xb2mt]

I mean it has 4wd so if course it’ll do good in the quarter mile but if that matters then either car is the wrong buy. Get an RS3. It has 4wd and more power than the m340i. Lexus for the real drivers!

[@xochilquetzal18]

The Lexus exterior just looks better IMO

[@clubracer6]

The IS500 is actually 2”longer than the IS350, so it’s more than a hood difference. I really love the IS500, but c’mon at least wireless CarPlay! And then many complaints about the transmission. That said, a far more special car than any NEW BMW and I say that has a long-time BMW owner who has had close to 30 cars with Roundel’s on them.

[@juicegodluis1196]

M340 way better the tuning potential and builds you can create with b58tu is way more versatile then tht outdated v8 and people wanna say oh well the is500 more reliable then b58 no it’s not I work in Toyota and dealt with rear main and timing on Toyota v8 more then the Supra mark 5 pcv oil blow by tht b58 is bulletproof and can push reliable 650+ on stock internals in fact my big turbo n55 held up 435i and I’m at 140k big turbo

[@ARentz07]

The "Toyota V-8" you write about is probably not this same one. It is only used in Lexus vehicles.

[@Jamesbaker123]

In this match up and as my main car it would hands down be the Lexus. For a toy or second car I would be in a whole other category.

[@DanVilla7]

Can never go wrong with the M340i such a great all around car

[@gaara4667]

Comparing a top of the range car from Lexus to a middle man of the BMW line up says enough.

[@cecilotto504]

I wouldn't take the M340 because it can't keep front end planted ,that's not safe plus the dependability is not there .

[@jacksonbeje]

Lexus all the way.

[@Anthony-dk7de]

Pick the bmw for lawnmower exhaust sound pick Lexus for bulldog V8 sound. (Modified ofc) XForce with muffler delelete pals

[@2of2DCH]

IS500 is so damn close to being an iconic car. Lexus just needs to open up the budget a wee bit. Get that interior a refresh, better infotainment and more backseat controls. Yet I'd bet as quick as those cars move off the lots it's not a huge profit margin for Lexus. Damn shame that. I debated one so long, yet the epic engine, design and performance was not enough to sway me. The outdated interior and transmission woes overruled the want for that engine. M340i xDrive is a beast. The B58 is an icon. Add wider, and lighter wheels from Apex with better tires, along with a midpipe to open the decent sounds of the B58 and you have impressive levels of performance. Levels where you wonder if the M3 juice is really worth the squeeze. Sadly I ended up going with an SUV instead of a sport sedan. Fortunately the X3 M Comp I did snag ain't a slouch. lol

[@3joewj]

Is the acura integra type s...really better than both of these?

[@KeithHowells]

Lexus 5.0 v8 all day!!!

[@G82Watts]

M340i is better in every single way. Yall say the lexus is more luxury but the bmw interior looks way more modern and its tech is so far ahead. Those facts alone would make it more luxury to me.

[@marcelrodriguez2067]

Disagree reliability and resale value is king. I could wait for the 1m340i in 2 years and see it more then 30% off its retail price. Try finding a 2008 isf for under 30k rn.

[@G82Watts]

​@marcelrodriguez2067 man I want to buy a car and it bring me the most joy possible. BMW is clearly the better drivers car and the b58 is the most renowned engine in the car community rn. Super reliable aswell. Also think the m340i looks alot better inside and out. Ur thinking alot down the road. I'm thinking what is more fun ... not what could or might happen down the line.

[@marcelrodriguez2067]

​@user-my4xu4gf1z personally i think the lexus looks better but i do agree if you like racing and that kinda stuff then nothing wrong with the bmw but i personally like a balance of reliability luxury, and some sport. The first 2 being a priority.

[@VietyF]

Lexus interior build quality, fit and finish, and firm quality is what should be considered more luxurious. Your BMW just gonna be creaking over time over the slightest pressure of touch on interior pieces, Mercedes and Audi has that the worst I don’t understand how that’s consider leading in class luxury lmfao but go ahead and believe the painting. I had a 1999 LS400 with 238k mi and at my job we had to safety inspect a couple Mercedes and Audi’s bmws all 2017-2021 and the interior build quality and fit and finish is a fucking joke. Overpriced over-engineered pieces of shits. They literally creaked and had worse quality than my pos 25 year old Lexus. Seriously

[@ARentz07]

I had an X1 as a loaner recently while my wife's X3 was getting a sunroof issue fixed. Yeah, the X1 was newer and fresher looking than our X3, but it was NOT more luxurious. The materials felt cheaper. Ambient lighting and big screens does not mean luxury.

[@arronsong3913]

I would buy the most reliable and top quality vehicle only with my hard earn money, so I would choose a Lexus over the BMW at anytime because BMW is a junk car only.

[@SilkySmooth02]

An M3 Wheel and tire package with a tune would make that 340 amazing. That IS will last forever and has a DOHC Lexus V8.....you can't go wrong.

[@jjff4555]

You can't beat BMW on handling..only on reliability !!

[@sophaman9193]

I put my money on the IS 500 better looking better reliability than the BMW

[@MrWilander88]

The engine in the m340 is the same as that in the TOYOTA supra, the engine is so good that even Toyota had BMW manufacture the Supra, basically a Z4

[@akuragang1990]

@@MrWilander88 that engine is a POS. The ONLY reason why Toyota used that motor was for cost savings to bring the Supra back. Otherwise, the car would've cost an arm and a leg if Toyota had to develop the motor from scratch. Something you boyracers wouldn't comprehend.

[@akuragang1990]

​@MrWilander88 NO you sheep. Toyota used that motor to save money on research and development. Otherwise the new Supra would've cost almost twice as much. That b58 motor is junk. Leaks oil, burns oil, burns coolant, etc., all with only 1000 miles brand new. Something you boyracers wouldn't understand.

[@nqobilemahlaba2230]

This video is brilliant!! Chief continue the outstanding work!

[@dwnshft]

Thanks 😎🙏

[@nqobilemahlaba2230]

@@dwnshft when you talk about cars you talk to us like you talking to you friend one on one. You not talking about us like you trying to recreate a version of yourself that doesn't exist with the aim of trying to impress the unimpressed. Yes people can always impress in a charming way but the best way is purely natural. This is what impresses me the most. You a soldier in the world of car journalism and I am proud. Keep up the good work and I'll be looking forward to seeing the next car. Your fan from South Africa.

[@dwnshft]

@@nqobilemahlaba2230 many many thanks! Paolo (co-presenter) was born in South Africa!! 🇿🇦

[@ALEXANDERHABESHA]

I'm the owner of the 2022 IS Launch Edition and this IS 500 on the video the interior does not look the the launch edition because the seats are not red on the launch edition and there's a serialized badge on the console for all those 500 of them. 0/500 to 500/500

[@David-we5mh]

A lot of testing having the square set-up on the BMW. Why didn't you get the BMW with the optional staggered 255's on it? May as well throw a Prius in there also.

[@dwnshft]

Right that’s the same thing 👍

[@emreuysaler8159]

everytime i hear something is 'dated' on a Toyota or lexus, I know its more reliable.

[@juliusoh]

I went with 2021 m340i cpo ceritifed at 9k miles. No brainer

[@GoPDemon]

I just drove an M340i and barely heard any noise. What year was yours? I'm reading starting 2021 the exhaust noise is much worse. iroginally... I found a spider in my mirror today on my IS500.

[@dwnshft]

@@GoPDemon hah the Lexus spider curse is real! My car is a 21 and yeah it was quiet when I bought it. Then I put an AWE touring system on it and it’s much better

[@euripidesroques6648]

IS500 all day!

[@RobHTech]

IDK. It's tough. I really like the IS, but the M340i is just a great car. Yet, the Lexus is obviously a better car, and I feel fantastic in it. Something about the BMW just feels off when I'm in it. But for the same price ... man it's hard. The Lexus is just missing some interaction, performance, and guts, which is why I'd get the BMW, but would need to trade it back in after a few years. I think if I were like 48 year-old + that I'd take the Lexus because more likely to keep it longer, more focused on taking it easy and just cruising around. I personally love the IS, but it's a little boring.

[@alj7094]

As a also B58 G chassis owner i have to admit that the m340i is like an emotionless power machine but the is500 is much more characteristic

[@geefim2144]

Is500 def the better car here and why I picked mine.

[@scrubberjerms]

I'm guessing that BMW still has the factory all season run-flats? That's why it's doing what it's doing. Put some pilot 4s or even cup 2s on it. Then let us know how you feel.

[@dwnshft]

100% - did an update video with performance tires on and shaved close to 3 seconds off the lap time (video on the channel)

[@scrubberjerms]

@@dwnshft I'll be checking that out. Thanks for the content. You've got a sub.

[@helintroy]

225 section tires all round woahhh that is slim in my x drive config m340i i got 225 fronts and 255 rear.. im sure the bmw would post a wayyy better time had it had wider cross section tires

[@rutgershouses]

IS500 !!

[@allenzillmer1917]

compare reliability/resale value as the tiebreaker - easy choice

[@lennykibet6689]

I'll pick the IS500 over the 340i all the time.

[@minifunkable]

M340i. Willing to pay higher maintenance costs.

[@b58forever]

is not a big deal m340i are super reliable i have mine for a year it have 50k miles and is being bullet proof that unlike the q50 redaport i have i had to replace the transmission twice and the car was stock what a pos car that q50 😂

[@3IS2UR]

IS500 w/ catback exhaust is all you need lol...

[@bcvijasiu]

Great video. I myself have an IS500. I did not compare it to M340i, but I did play with the idea of M3 and now M2, but mostly because of the manual option. That said I cannot bring myself to do it because of perceived reliability. I am however looking at LC500, but not because of the transmission, but because of its exterior and interior design. I think that car in 15 years is going to be fire.

[@dwnshft]

BUY. THE. LC500. I LOVE THAT CAR

[@bcvijasiu]

@@dwnshft I will do my best 😉. I am keeping my eyes open. Something without the rear wheel steering and 2018/2019. I also need to get a decent price on my MP 🧡 IS500. Keep you posted. And congratulations on your M340i!

[@marcelrodriguez2067]

Bro thats a 100k car way more then the is500 if you got it like that good for you man lol

[@bcvijasiu]

@@marcelrodriguez2067 new, absolutely they are. Used, they are in 65-70k now for 2018. I am OK with that. Not OK with 100k 😉.

[@kiteteoh1937]

lexus is so elegant and fierce at the same time

[@kingmusa8618]

That lexus 🔥

[@danial2552]

Personally I like the bmw a little bit better for the cool ness of the brand but a rwd v8 with almost 500 hp n/a engine that won't overheat as easy as the turbo engine from the company whose number 1 in build quality and reliability is just unbeatable I won't take my car to track every day so the Lexus will be more smooth on the harsh roads and most importantly I want my car to be more on the road than in mechanic shop because of turbo fail head gasket leak transmission fluid leak and.... Technology is good if your obsessed with it but the car starting every time no issues and the car holding or increasing in value is more like priority

[@1wT_23]

Hands down the Lexus is where its at

[@muhibmahirmahmud8278]

IS500 is also 2" longer upfront and 1.3" wider in the rear. So, not the exact dimensions of an is350

[@hellotp2959]

Lexus is king my 2021 350 will be trade in for is500 near future

[@netrixz4170]

does the m340i have staggered package or all models come same all around?

[@user-ki1vd3ti8j]

Lexus for me

[@coldvaper]

Didn't the m340i have a performance pack that gave the car 255s all around?

[@ARentz07]

I think it's staggered, but yes that package exists

[@madpistol]

255 rear, 225 front

[@BSBS-gk4iy]

German cars with small engines and from recycled plastic (initially poor quality) are not rivals to Japan cars anymore! Lexus is a King! Ask trusted mechanics only!

[@AndyGrouch]

BMW probably dream to drive but it looks so boring, inside and out. Full of high tech but sterile and boring, Lexus on the other hand looks brilliant. Interior is old fashioned but its classy and funky. The outside is perfect for me, everything looks amazing even the controversial front grill looks great with this. It will be a collector item in the future so its value will always be very high.

[@gordonyz4]

Why does m340i have 225 all around? The rear should be 255😢 X3 has 245/275 with X3M at even wider

[@mgstryker17]

Is 500 fore sure, bouta get one soon

[@dylanrijnberg6933]

I would'nt swap my IS F for either 😉🏁

[@AL-dz2qw]

Sold my is300 for m240i and I love it

[@dwnshft]

niiiiccecee

[@jonathanjones1814]

I prefer IS500 over the M340 but prefer the M3 over the IS 500