DPReview TV: Canon EOS RP Review

[@frankluo230]

I have to say, after so many rants and negativities around EOS RP, you guys have done a fantastic job in giving non biased review. Thumbs up. Long time Nikon shooter I feel that's what Nikon needed the most to enlarge Z mount user base, not the Noct not the 1.2S line. A simplified Z6 with same sensor, crippled video specs, less weather sealing and a bit slower frame rate at high speed continuous, hopefully same battery, 24-70s combo for under $2000 and $1400 for the body alone.

[@AbdonPhirathon]

Frank Luo, I've been hearing a lot of rumors about a Z5, but no solid information so far. If they release it this year then Canon's going to have some competition in this new segment.

[@Ildskalli]

With 35mm sensors costing still between $100 to $300, it's absolutely *impossible* to hit a $500 price point. Mind you, camera sensors don't go down in price like other semiconductors, because their yields are extremely dependent on size.

[@BurningBroadcast]

Phones are going to kill the low end market. Whatever anecdotal shit the northrups say, end of the day the VAST majority of ex-compact camera users now use phones and dont give a shit about fullframe or knowing photography. With AI becoming more appearant in phone cameras software will simulate bokeh, as they are doing now. Consumers dont care once again. The high end and pro market will be where dedicated expensive cameras are going to live. I think the Northups VASTLY overestimate the desire for cheap cameras. They might hear it alot but then again they run a massive photography business. Ofcourse people who have interest flock to them and that makes their perspective incredibly skewed. Most people buying cheap Canon DSLR's put them on a shelf, never use them. I see soo many 2000D's with about 1000 clicks.No point to invest significantly into a system which people are not actually going to use. In comes the Canon 4000D. Their 6 year old 18mp sensor, PLASTIC lens mount, no flip screen etc. Sells like hotcakes to people who aren't going to use the thing, why on earth would Canon invest significantly in R&D for a FF system which people put on a shelf. @Ziggi Mon

[@matthewwells1606]

I wish Nikon had given us a kit lens like this, though. 24-105 is versatile. 24-70 means I have to buy more shit.

[@harrison00xXx]

Wondering why there was so much hate about the EOS RP at all. Probably the price was questionable at release, but considering now 2021, soon 2022... I was looking for my first FF i waited for a long time already. Little used (SO 2ND HAND!!!)similar performing ones like the 6D Mk2 cost as much as the RP (brandnew...) or even more like the 5D Mk3/4 and are a lot bulkier. Ofc i wont get the display at the top as i wished since ever with the RP, but somehow when you want the more modern sensor with its pretty good high ISO capabilities, you can go for 2nd hand "higher end" DSLRs or a new mirrorless RP, not really a hard decision. I hope the fact its mirrorless will make it even lasting longer than a DSLR.

[@johnbhome2]

Thank you for an excellent review. I just received my RP yesterday. I tried just just about all my lenses on this camera. They all worked fine including the 2 EF-S lenses I use on my 80D. The only problem I had was with my Sigma 50mm 1.4. It showed circles in the images I took. Today I will try this lens again turning off all lens corrections and hopefully those circles disappear. I read that the R had this same problem and turning off the pherifical on third party lenses solved it. Putting it another way I will upgrade to a few of the RF lenses but I am in no hurry. I know this camera has warts but they are warts I am willing to live with. Every camera has. There is no holy grail system out there. Full frame goodness in a light weight camera with excellent ergonomics for $1299.00 that can use existing glass with great results was just the ticket for me on my fixed income. I just turned 65 years young today with my first film camera being a MInolta X7. I've been around awhile. I am not sure who the marketing of this camera is for but it certainly ticked all my boxes and I have bought it. While everyone else out there is searching for their holy grail I will be happily out working my craft. Keep on keeping on!!!!!!!

[@mirage711]

Well said thanks for your review I want one also..

[@Mariobius]

I’m planning to sell my 80D and pick an RP up, would you recommend it? I feel like I’m spoiled by the 80D’s dynamic range at base ISO

[@tamasvarga67]

John Blomeling Yeah, good thinking! Many people are obsessed with specs but actually, this camera is awesome. Canon’s ergonomics, touch interface is pretty much the best in my opinion and it’s more important over time than some of the missing specs, and using EF lenses natively is a killer feature. I have a 5DIII and an 80D and I’m still on the fence to get the RP or wait for the R II to come out and then get a discounted R. How do you like it after the firmware update?

[@georges617]

Long time EOS M user here. Had a combination of an M3 and M6 and was shooting with both. At some point, the M3 just died on me and at first I was looking to replace it with an M50 II, but then I saw on the vendor's website that a brand new RP including the RF 50mm 1.8 lens was only about 900$, which somewhat stunned me. Full-frame with a great prime lens for noticeably less than a grand and no need to change my battery packs? Almost sounded too good to be true, but I took a leap of faith and ordered it. Best decision ever! The camera and lens work really well together and even wide open, I get perfectly sharp and detailed pictures combined with a quick autofocus. The eye-tracking feature is also absolutely massive for me as a portrait photographer and although it isn't always perfectly on point, it still focuses on people much better than my M6 with a 32mm 1.4 ever did. Not to mention the superb low-light performance, especially when you switch from an APS-C to a full-frame. All in all, this is the best camera to buy in terms of price-to-performance ratio and if you want to transit from APS-C to full-frame over time. I am in love with mine and cannot wait to see where this full-frame journey takes me. Thank you for a great review.

[@chenigen]

Best review of the RP so far! I've really been on the fence about it. Thank you!

[@gui4j]

you guys have the best review channel and are best reviewers ,,, dp review should be very very very happy to have you on board ...

[@jlofthou]

Really had me wondering if I've been saying "EOS" wrong all these years but fantastic video with really useful information. Greatly appreciate all the work put into it.

[@YuhasLol]

Great review. The video and stills coming from the RP look really crisp. This will make for a great travel photography camera. $1300 for a FF camera with great ergonomics and a flip out screen? Can't beat that!

[@SamuPuuronen]

Just selling my older Canon to get this one and a big reason is the size of it. Finally I can take a camera besides my phone with me to travel. And the compact, cheaper Canon 50mm RF-lens is a great lens to pair the body with. Did you end up getting this camera yourself?

[@reginaldoppenheimer334]

I also use the RP with the $200 50mm, it can produce good stuff. I have a rf70-200 2.8 as well. I do hate the lack of dynamic range though. I’m kinda interested in Fuji now but don’t want to lose my butt on the switch

[@EmtiMT]

One of your best reviews ever! Can be you did not notice yourself, but when you do indoor footage for video we as your audiance can see how a camera is doing in low light. Most video footage you normally do is outdoors with only very short tests in low light…. But also the step by step topics in this review are just right to follow and get a well rounded impression. So thanks a lot and keep up the good work…. :-)

[@delarageaz]

What i really don't understand is, why is Canon making cheap cameras for amateur and beginners but the entire line up of lenses for it are incredibly expensive, very good but very expensive. If there is one thing i learned from selling cameras for 2 and half years now is that beginners and amateurs don't want to spend their money on lenses, even if you tell them that lenses are doing most of the work...

[@dan7nm]

Good point, I think they are hoping that people will use the ef adapter

[@persaud101]

You could start off with cheaper ef lens as a beginner and then get a more expensive ones once ready to move up and still use it on this body..

[@AmitZinmanVideo]

@@persaud101 That only makes sense if you don't have a camera already or are transitioning from a point-and-shoot. Even so, beginners tend to care about features, they like features, even if its just to justify it or boast about it to their friend and family. In all other cases the A7ii and some APS-C cameras will give you better specs for the money.

[@sergtrav]

450$ for the 35 1.8 IS Macro - incredibly expensive.

[@AmitZinmanVideo]

@@sergtrav You think that is the lens beginners would buy? It's REALLY wide on FF.

[@Bloggerky]

Well done. As with so many new mirrorless offerings, the questions of "what are the lenses now" and "how much does a system cost by the time I buy glass" are central. Thanks.

[@kentmemories]

thanks for very useful review.. Seems competitors are still ahead in many departments

[@persaud101]

Mistake for youtubers and videographers...Pick it up and actually and use. I have a Sony A6500 and this Canon RP blows it out of the water in terms OTB image qaulity, ergonomics, menu system, back screen, Canon remote softrware. For the average Joe who wants to shoot amazing stills and protraits, family events or company events at a cheap price with largest lens selection on the market this camera is a win... However, my a6500 shoots better 4k video and videos but I have $65 4k cam from Amazon that I hardly use that shoots amazing 4k n 1080p video... Alot ppl are judging or mistaking the target market. Yea my A6500 is more powerful or A7iii is more powerful and older models but they price point with a couple decent primes starts around anywhere from 2,500-4k while image is NOT better than this Canon. The RP with the free grip and adapter is 1300 and you can get a 50mm 1.8 prime lens to use with the adapter for $125 that shoots amazing stills and protraits!!!

[@mlevesque33]

@@persaud101 The added grip is not free. You can get the Sony a6400 with a 16-50 mm lens for cheaper than the Canon EOS RP and the Sony has better capabilities. It's APS-C sure but still better.

[@alanwatergate]

@@persaud101 Sony a6400 has better dynamic range. For jpeg shooter, RP is better than a6400. But for raw shooter, just look how horrible 6DII was received. But why compare an apsc to a FF. Sony A7II is better in all departments than RP. Both have shitty battery. E mount for Sony Lens is way cheaper and better, when taking Tamron and Sigma into consideration.

[@Aksunkuvat]

@@alanwatergate Sony bad ergos and mount made of pot metal

[@persaud101]

You mean video... why not just get a video cam then...

[@JonathanBarrow]

Im going to love Camera Conspiracies comments on how Jordan crapped on the camera and his lack of enthusiasm

[@themjian]

Exactly!

[@joshwozny]

I'm shooting on a Sony A6000 and I've been wanting to jump to full frame, so I've been looking at the A7III - but as a former Canon shooter, the price point on this was so tempting. I'm glad I watched this and discovered that it's basically a full frame Rebel.

[@RageStudios]

Best review I've seen in this camera so far, great work guys!

[@CameronDixon]

Google's closed captions are on point, I always love a good DP Review from "Chris Nipples". 😂

[@reckerproduction9468]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@rgreeneish]

lol I always thought he was saying “Christicles”

[@wasabibinladeen62]

@4:21 I like how DP Review has put up D750 and A7II as a comparison of ISO performance. I mean D750 and A7ii were released back in 2014 but somehow D750 still performs much better than either of Canon's full frame mirrorless cameras.

[@cooloox]

Actually, it wasn't much better at all. The EOS RP had larger grain, the D750 had more grain. So do you prefer tightly packed small grain or more spaced out larger grain? I'd say the D750 had a slight edge.

[@shrubmonkey]

I was surprised just how bad that iso performance was. It was not slightly worse it was massively worse. I’d expect to have seen an improvement over older tech. Canon obviously cost cutting, probably because they can, bet they will sell loads of them

[@TL-xw6fh]

The reason may be because the D750 sensor is ISO invariant, whereas the Canon sensors are not ISO invariant, hence their very poor low light performance.

[@cooloox]

@@shrubmonkey OK, you keep telling yourself that. I was watching on a 50" screen and the difference was not massive. Also, regardless of when the D750 was released, it's still the "current" model in that price range.

[@wasabibinladeen62]

​@@cooloox D750 is $1000 cheaper than Canon EOS R. Sony A7III is $250 cheaper. The ISO performance is bad on both R and RP. You need to keep in mind that when Sony released their entry level A7III, they didn't cripple its iso performance, FPS, autofocus (actually improved), video, battery, build quality, etc. compared to A7RIII despite costing over $1000 less. They did lower the EVF and LCD screen resolution but it was not a big deal for most people and helped Sony to overtake Full frame market over Nikon and Canon. On the flipside, We got Canon releasing pretty mediocre camera and crippling it down further back to five years ago to protect its "flagship" lineup. Dynamic range performance is pretty horrible for the price range as well even compared to their own APS-C models. Canon thinks their fans are just gonna keep buying into their system as long as they put their Canon logo on it. Also going for RP might just be one of the worst choices for the mirrorlesss market since there are like two entry-level RF mount lenses available. Honestly, Fuji's XT-3 will get you significantly better results unless you are shooting in extreme low light.

[@MrNoipe]

Chris mentioned that you can't push or pull JPEGs. Sure you can, have you tried it in Lightroom? Works surprisingly well. Not as good as raw, but better than you would expect.

[@dzsemx]

JPEG pushing sometimes even delivers more colorful and more nice looking results

[@dhruvang5369]

Pretty sure he means not as extreme and useful as compared to RAW.

[@thebentzenable]

JPEG'S have different personalities. Some jpegs are better than others, and some jpegs sensors are better than other jpegs sensors. Anyways you don't lift the shadows on a Canon file! Raw or jpeg!

[@AugmentedGravity]

The RP is fantastic at its price and what its ment for.

[@konstantinos_pournaras]

The eos rp is awsome for its price. I use this camera proffesionaly with adapter for ef lenses and it works like native. Also i use native rf lenses.

[@itcamefromabox]

Didn't expect this review at 3am o.o

[@samatkinsphotography]

8am here in the UK :)

[@tungvn261]

@@samatkinsphotography it's 3 am in a box, duh

[@samatkinsphotography]

Xuan Tung Lam that’s quite profound. Well done.

[@Elgsdyr]

Creative people work best at night time... :P

[@antant06]

People talk about the beauty of canon colours but I really don't see it here tbh.

[@marksaustralia6464]

As usual, you guyz are the final word on camera reviews. I buy solely on your videos.

[@Kamukix]

Quick comment on the "dynamic range issue" with the Canon RP, while the camera definitely does NOT have the ability to do the awesome ISO invariant kinda tweaking of some of my other bodies (Nikon D810, Fujifilm X-T3, etc, etc, etc)...it can still capture a very solid amount of dynamic range in a single image and it's not hurting me I just have to (as usual) know what I'm doing and prioritize what's most important in the photo like I would for the others so I'm not always shooting to push shadows by 3-5 stops. Also if you're shooting landscape work then it's not a problem at all to just shoot bracketed exposures which the RP does just fine haha. (also it has Focus bracketing which is pretty cool though I haven't spent real time with it just yet) The current sale price had me totally rethink whether or not I'd ever try one out, and I just received it this past weekend for $999 with the kit lens (that I'll sell immediately off as soon as I know the camera won't have a problems in the 30 day return window) even though I'll not use that lens for more than making sure the camera works properly then I put it back in the box as I don't like it much. Selling that lens off makes the already body only deal of $899 even more insane at about $780...it's a crazy deal. I took it out into the field for the first time this weekend to run it through it's paces, and after setting the camera up for portrait work the night before...I almost completely forgot that it was a new camera I was using at all. The results were excellent, and the camera performed very very well the entire day of shooting. I shot roughly 712 photos (incl. bursts) and went through 1.5 batteries though I purchased and charge enough to have 4 batteries if needed. Other than wishing I had a better eyecup on this thing (looking for a replacement), I gotta say that I'm very very happy with it's performance. I used the Canon 100mm f/2, Tamron 45mm f/1.8, Canon RF 35mm, and the Canon 24-105mm STM this weekend all without problems. It was sooooooo nice being to use the 100mm f/2 without a thought to the autofocus because the EyeAF worked amazingly(!) well enough that I didn't have to move the focus point ONCE during the entire day. My other cameras are a lot faster (well the Fuji bodies and older Nikon bodies anyway...not the D810 by that much) and yes the RAW files are better to dramatically underexpose with, but this little RP is earning it's keep it seems. I think it just might be time to decide to just keep the thing and sell that kit lens early so I can't back out haha. I expected a train wreck of a camera and to send it back within 2 or 3 days, but that was not what happened at all.

[@cameraconspiracies]

If Fisher Price and K-Mart had a baby, they would make this camera.

[@EDHBlvd]

Camera Conspiracies does K-Mart still exist in Canada?

[@SuperBuickregal]

All I want is the perfect camera!

[@stephanes.]

They would do better

[@IsmaelMartinezPR]

That is so creative and insightful, should be written in bronze.

[@aklaasvandalen207]

Are you afraid that a lot of amateurs make pro-photo's?

[@jcax44]

Great review. Overall the image quality looks fantastic as shown by this video as well as the sample stills. Yes, not for camera geeks but useful enough to meet the general populace.

[@FyahAlex]

That's it in a nutshell.

[@hadnoideahow]

Or camera geeks who cannot afford anything better?

[@danieljmvisuals]

@@hadnoideahowexactly

[@noutram1000]

I'm coming from "The" 7D so this thing coupled with my lenses is a God-send, bring it on!

[@Yankeededandy62]

I fit the picture as target customer for the RP: Amateur, had a 6D before and some 2.8 EF zoom lenses from Tamron. Why I switched? Because the RP is way easier to operate than any other full frame camera I know. I finally kicked the automatic modes and shoot in manual only. The two dials make it possible to change aperture and exposure while looking through the EVF. The touchscreen is flipped out and with my left thumb I move the focus points around at the same time. THAT's the real advantage of the RP compared to other cameras (and the 6D). On a down side: The missing weather sealing might be an issue, since I travel a lot. That's going to be a risk. The dynamic range didn't prove to be a major issue so far, bringing out shadows in raw files turned out more than decent and not worse, than with the 6D. One warning though: If you're using 3rd party EF lenses with the adapter, test the compatibility first. I had an older Tamron 70-200 F2.8 where the autofocus didn't work. With newer glass, no issue though.

[@thenexthobby]

"THAT's the real advantage of the RP compared to other [lower-cost full frame] cameras ..."

[@sfink16]

You may have mentioned it and I missed it, but the RP may be suited for those Canon APS-C users, with EF lens, wanting to go to mirror-less. In any case, I'm hoping to eventually go mirror-less but waiting for the IBIS to make that jump. I have too much invested in Canon lens (and full frames) to make a switch to Sony or Nikon at this time.

[@terrylwilliams]

I'm reminded of the sitcom 'Home Improvement', every-time I watch your videos. Jordan is the new 'Al'

[@Jason.rimando]

I’d love to see a revised review with the latest firmware

[@pulseimages]

Jason Rimando It’s still a meh camera.

[@jacobtran4010]

@@pulseimages not for its price right now, check on amazon

[@PaulKentSkates]

It's better than my 5D mk2 Which means it's good enough for working professionals. (I know a couple professionals still using their 5d2's in studio and are winning competitions) Maybe the Meh was in us all along.

[@rockofk]

@@PaulKentSkates I'm a 5d MKII user still, and I could not agree more

[@PaulKentSkates]

@@rockofk I just wish it took our old LP-E6n batteries.

[@Itisbriannaj]

Thank you for the great in depth review! I was really excited to hear about this full frame camera, and needed to know the strengths and weaknesses. I appreciate it!

[@MartianCitizen]

I love seeing you guys work and do your stuff....balanced, honest, and pull no punches review....I own the canon ae1, for memories only. The t5i, still going strong with the wife. And finally, i own the xt2. It's so disappointing when canon constantly pulls features for purposes of market targeting for their perceived and specific customer base. Which appears to be dwindling per their own ceo's admission. However, what great hooks they have in their products. dpaf, canon color, touchy flippy screen, great menu system, awesome L glass, durable bodies ( even the plastic ones ). When you examine their marketing logic it makes perfect sense. Provide the basics, plant the hook in new fish, and, theoretically of course, you have a customer for life. It's great when it works. At the same time, as photographers improves their skill set, individuals begin to want more. And this is where canon begins to fall flat. The problem is, this is also the smallest target audience, pro-sumers, and professionals begin to dwindle in numbers. Canon caters to beginners, mid-range, and eventually the pros. Don't get me wrong, canon has great pro equipment, but it always appears as of late to be lagging behind the competition in improved features. Even their beginner products are showing this. Although I will never know the thinking of the inner sanctum of canon, it does leave us, the former canon hopeful, formulating our own conspiracy theories. As always, keep up the good work and keep em flying.... Now where did i park that saucer...hmmmm.

[@MariNate1016]

The m50 is the best canon camera considering price and ability. 600 for essentially the same features as this camera. Of course you have better lowlight performance, but no 24fps is enough to pass alone.

[@HwL01]

MariNate for people who don’t shoot video it is not an issue. In fact many people rant about this while they dont really shoot video at all.

[@FyahAlex]

H4n Mil I'm one of them. I care ZERO about video, but I do want full frame.

[@ayayoutuber]

24p is back after firmware 1.4, eye AF also improved.

[@svg223]

I'm going to buy this, just to get reliable autofocus other than the center spot on my 6D, for my 12 EF lenses. I don't know if I will like a small light camera to go with my XL hands and 70-200L 2.8 lens.

[@ewtriplett3323]

Another very well done video by Chris and Jordan! Thank you!! I bought the RP because of its small size and I only shoot stills. It is much lighter than other cameras I use such as the Panasonic G9 and Sony A7Riii. The Sony is great but its ergonomics are troublesome.

[@EDHBlvd]

Chris and Jordan speak the truth. You guys always rock. Unbiased reviews. Thank you.

[@CalebWojcik]

To be honest, the 4K 24p footage looks pretty great. Just gotta be in ideal or controlled lighting situations. Thanks for the detailed review gents.

[@henrytuttle]

At the end of 2022, I got the RP refurb on Canon's site for $600. And their RF24-105 f4-7.1 for another $120. One day I hope to upgrade to R5 equivalent, but I'm pretty happy with my low cost starter.

[@davidevalentiofficial]

Hello DP Review, nice video and review. I personally own this camera and really love it. If you use it as compact full frame studio camera, it's amazing. Initially I was a little concerned about battery life, but after a few weeks I've reached 445 shots with one charge. Yes, it's not that impressive for any standard DSLR, but for a mirror less camera probably is.

[@Noealz]

So many people try to review this camera as if it was meant for professionals, but for the people it's intended for - it gives what it is meant to do, an affordable full frame camera

[@SamuPuuronen]

I truly wonder what these missing things are in the camera that it's not for "professionals"? Given that so-called professional photographers also use old film cameras.

[@camlong89]

Camera companies are great at marketing. It's become so focused on tech and not on the art. Any camera, especially a modern FF is a professional camera....in the hands of a professional. You can do portraits, weddings, real estate, and make money. Makes me laugh how so many are fooled by good marketing.

[@sebastianfilms4499]

Canon should have released the RP before the R. Would have made the R look better by comparison.

[@MJeffSantos]

This looks like a camera for amateurs/casual shooters. The problem is, I don't think any amateur should spend $1.200 on a BODY ONLY, unless you are rich, but if that's the case, get a better camera like the EOS R/Z6/a73/xt3 and forget about the cost.

[@Ildskalli]

That's exactly my take on it, too - there's no real target market for this camera, except a couple of Canon crop upgraders and those looking for a cheap second or third body.

[@Eihei]

@@Ildskalli I would imagine someone like a 5D mark II owner who only shoots stills, has few lenses and wants an actual, unexpensive upgrade while getting the advantages of mirrorless. Also the number and coverage of af points smashes every DSLR, so you don't have to do something archaic like focus recompose. I would still rather go to Sony though :P

[@Ildskalli]

Sure, but I wonder how many 5DII owners still haven't upgraded. Also, lots of them are at least part-time pros, which means they prefer bodies with better build quality, more direct controls, longer battery life and dual slots. I still don't think there's a huge market for the RP, and after initial strong sales it's going to wither on the vine (unless Canon can sell it for $800, which would really start to move inventory - Sony would've no answer for it, either).

[@kikipratama1]

@@Ildskalli The target is: - Those who want to save bodies for lens. RF-L is expensive. - Those who can't afford a good full-frame. - Those who only cares with portarits and just a simpler video. - For Canon, they just testing the market. That's why they have no pro bodies yet. Canon obviously tries to cover the entire market. From the Cheapest to the most Expensive. They have everything so... they have the worst too.

[@Ildskalli]

- "Those who want to save bodies for lens. RF-L is expensive." I could agree, but the body is too underpowered to make a reasonable case for the high-end RF lenses. - "Those who can't afford a good full-frame." Get a 5DII, or D610, or K-1, or A99, or A7RII, and call it a day. Any of those is a more credible photography platform than the RP. - "Those who only cares with portarits and just a simpler video." That's a... weird niche. Especially when an X-T30 with the 56mm f/1.2 can it eat it for breakfast, and for less money. The 56mm is basically one of the greatest portrait lenses ever made, and the X-T30 is soooo much better in video that it's shameful. - "For Canon, they just testing the market. That's why they have no pro bodies yet." That is true, but just how long can they afford to "test" things? To me, they're only testing their faithful's patience, which isn't good. "Canon obviously tries to cover the entire market. From the Cheapest to the most Expensive." They have done this thus far, no doubt. But for how long can that last? The market is still collapsing, and companies need to be more focused and efficient with their expenditures than ever before. Canon's current "let's try everything and see what sticks" is coming five years too late. Sony already did it, and managed to catch the drift just in time.

[@ziginox]

The focus stacking managed to make the joystick blurrier than the initial shot!

[@cooloox]

That was another good and fair review from you guys. There's only one slight problem: you actually made the camera look better than what you described it as being. Jordan made it look good for video, even in 4K and Chris made it look like a solid low-light camera. It performed very well in this video. Did Jordan manually focus in the 4K part? One other minor thing, I think it's meaningless even mentioning CIPA battery ratings. They are so far off the mark for virtually every camera that it's a joke. I bought an M50 specifically for street photography and it's rated at 235 shots per charge. I consistently get around 1600+shots and 1800+ if doing a lot of bursts. The lowest I ever got was still over 1,000 shots, so who knows where 235 is coming from.

[@FotosyMas.]

As bad as this camera may be for video, this footage looks better than anything you’ve shot with the GH5. It’s the colors maybe?

[@TheTechnoPilot]

I'm sorry, but if you think that, you have a very odd and unusual preference for video that doesn't align with the general view of cinematic or Hollywood filmmaking.

[@RodolphosTechchannel]

Probs only due to color grading on post

[@WACONimages]

Recently I went to a pro-camera store. I came for different gear but we ended up talking and trying out the EOS R(not the RP). What came out for me as a surprise is that instead of to trying to keep enough highlight details so you can push up the shadows as most normally do, you best metering on the shadows and take DOWN the Highlights! The other way around! Don't know how and what but it worked! You can take down the highlights of the EOS-R by a large amount! At the store they believe Canon should had that in their marketing! So most reviewers are talking about too much shadow noise in their test now. So instead of normal to under exposure a bit the EOS-R seems to do better with slightly overexposure it seems. Worth to try out!

[@Lofote]

03:40 Is there still that rumor that a closed shutter prevents any dust on the sensor? It will not, and I guess that Canon knows that now as well :)… Because just think: any dust will now land on the shutter. Once that opens, just guess where it will immediatly land: on the electically charged sensor… So it only adds a Risk of a broken shutter and add one shutter actuation, but no dust protection at all.

[@dzsemx]

In front of the sensor there are 2-3 layers of glass. Literally you can damage it with a hammer or a rock. The shutter is a flexible plastic curtain, you can not break it by touching it, but it can break if you punch your finger to it.

[@Ildskalli]

What the hell? You have that completely backwards - the glass stack in front of the sensor is really tough, and at most will get scratched by a very hard shard being pressed against it, in which case you're doing something *wrong* . On the other hand, the shutter is made of extremely thin titanium or carbon fiber blades that are moved at ridiculously fast speeds - anything that gets in there has a serious chance of doing serious damage.

[@gavinwade349]

@@Ildskalli The glass in front of the sensor can be scratched extremely easily. If your stupid enough to try to clean it with even a microfiber cloth you can get it covered in scratches with a few swipes (I know from my own personal experience). You are almost guaranteed to scratch it unless you use the proper cleaning equipment.

[@Ildskalli]

@Gavin: Really? That's too bad. I've often cleaned mine with soft hair brushes and those foam thingies that come in sensor-cleaning kits, and have never managed to damage the glass. Shooting the sun with a telephoto lens, well, that's another story... 🤣

[@gavinwade349]

The scratches were pretty minor, but they taught me to use those sensor cleaning kits. The swabs that come with them work excellent for cleaning off smears and stuck on dust.

[@ThePhotographyHobbyist]

0:01 gnarly tunes! ;-) It's like I'm back in the 80's.

[@austinyouthhockey7851]

I'm always skeptical about Canon reviews on release. Seems they get a lot of hate but then down the road, once people have time to use them and work with their quirks, they become a pretty solid option. I have a M50 and 6D2 that I love, not that I love everything about them and it took time to find their sweet spots, but given I use multiple cameras for a variety of uses "price point" cameras are my new reality.

[@Ryan_Powers25]

I'm considering the RP or the M50. How does your m50 compare to 6d2? I've had Canon m6mii and currently own Lumix S5 but find it too heavy and too complex for my abilities. I mostly shoot in auto and only jpegs. I only do street and casual photography but want something better than a smart phone or point and shoot.

[@sushrutrathod9015]

That's crispy video quality 🤩

[@marcotschilar1531]

good review, I like your channel. I thinks the EOS RP isn't too bad. Not for sport and hasn't the greatest Video features. But as an entery level Camera you can have a lot of fun with this camera. The RF Lenses are expensive and more pro level, agree with you that with this camera it lacks on entery level glass in RF Mount

[@dasaauto2024]

The RP is only described in terms of how “bad” it is or isn’t. No reviewer has ever given it an u qualified “good” opinion. Only 10 years ago, you wouldn’t have had.many options. So maybe you’d be looking for the “least bad” camera...but in 2019 you have so many truly good options from Fuji, Sony, Panasonic and Olympus. The X-T30 with a couple great lenses is the same price as the RP, and it’s excellent is every place the RP falls on its face. A Sony a7II is also a much better camera. A Panasonic G9 is the same price or less, and it runs circles around the RP, even with an MFT sensor. Why are people so addicted o the Canon brand after almost a decade of letdowns? Was it the Agassi Rebel ad campaign that sealed the deal for eternity? 😂

[@axnyslie]

If you were making a negative review on the RP's video it didn't come across on the video you shot with it here. it looks really good.

[@zupperm]

Seeing Chris in 60fps looks wrong.

[@bluecomposite]

Yeah, terrible.

[@ChrispyArt]

zupperm yeah he’s so smooth already, Chris 60fps is overkill for you! No need to be so smooth /s

[@mirage711]

Why

[@dasaauto2024]

I think it’s the video quality looks the most shocking, but 60 FPS is a bit odd.

[@briefcasemanx]

The video quality looks excellent and very professional, pretty cinematic actually, despite people crapping on Canon's video specs, and despite this not having C-log. Was not expecting that AT ALL. Maybe it's mostly due to Canon's awesome lenses???

[@yixuz42]

I don’t know why but in comment section, lots of people are saying A7ii is better than RP... I’ve had my hand on both of them, Sony has better sensor, but everything else, rp is better... especially the ease of use for RP. You want to pick it up and shoot... the Sony doesn’t have a touch screen, difficult to change setting, doesn’t feel good in hand.... I really don’t mind losing one stop of dynamic range for exchange of ease of use.

[@Ildskalli]

Depends on your expectations, and what you're used to. For me, the four dials and full customization on the Sony are preferable to the Canon's simplified interface. The Sony also has IBIS, picture profiles, apps to expand the camera's performance, a battery grip option, many more lenses available to it, better/faster burst shooting... It's hardly as one-dimensional as you make it sound.

[@errolsmith5634]

Sooo ...you rather a pretty car with a terrible engine?

[@yixuz42]

Errol Smith come on... you know it’s not terrible. Many photographers are still using 5D3 and their photos are amazing. It’s not terrible as long as people can get amazing photos with it.but of course the sensor is worse than Sony’s.

[@yixuz42]

@SwitchRich where do you draw the conclusion of 3 stops?

[@yixuz42]

SwitchRich 2 stops sounds reasonable. It’s like 1 stop worse than my 5D4, and my 5D4 is 1/2 to 1 stop worse than Sony.

[@wickie4801]

Greetings from good old Europe. Fair and interesting review like always!!I Bught a Canon RP. Why? I had Sony a7iii. Very good picture quality. Bad handling: some mistakes and complicated menue - for me, it always took a little bit long at shooting changes. So I sold it and took the RP: yes, Sony is technical better (sensor), has greater dynamic range, is faster and so on...GOLDSTANDARD. But the RP has better handling, ergonomics and is more sympathic to me: full variangle Touchdisplay, Drag&Drop Autofocus, double Exposure, logical menue for example. For the price you get a FF + lens. It´s good enough for me - I shoot stills, video not often (FHD Dualautofocus). RP = S I M P L I C I T Y. Less can be more. Need not the best of the best. Canon democratizes Fullframe for the people. Not evryone is a millionaire or professional photographer or Pixelpeeper. Think the RP will have a tremendous success like the Canon M50/Kiss. I´m really no fanboy of Canon - had used all companys before - but I love this new RP. KR, Chris

[@legile]

Nice review, is it me or it felt more neutral? like really looking at the pros and cons without exaggerating them. Even when they comment on the dynamic range they didn't bash the camera, just inform of the limitations and weaknesses. Great work guys!

[@el_fucko]

Now that this is apparently about to be replaced by the R8, did we ever find out if the "P" really does stand for "piss", as many have suggested?

[@jeannewagner8133]

Finally a review of this camera in actual low indoor light situations. I have watched so many reviews looking for low light mentions, and they're all done outside. I'll be shooting inside mostly, at night, in places similar to what you shot the video in, except not even that much light. More like a civic center with vast ceilings and walls to far away to bounce light off of. Also thank you so much for demonstrating the noise in the shadows. I'm using a 7D MKII with the kit 18-135 lens, and the shadow noise is awful. I was hoping by getting this RP body + the 24-105mm lens kit that it would be a big step up (going from crop sensor to full frame and much much better glass). Any thoughts on that as an actual good upgrade? The fps doesn't make much difference to me except for battery life. I had considered the 6D MKII as well, but thought that mirrorless is the future and wanted to stay on track at least, plus I'm hearing rumblings that Canon may be done with 6D line at the Mk II. I'm going to look and see if you have a review on the 6D MKII as well.

[@williamgoss4691]

Haha ! Just the reasons I am looking at the RP now; FF plus better quality glass, (even if I have to initially buy/use an adaptor…. But for me it’s also it’s size, hoping to use it as my carry around, almost notebook camera, and prhps one day up grade to the R, or, who knows, prhps a 2nd hand R5 !! And I could use the same glass on both bodies; amazing thought !

[@emilyfan99]

OK, what did I learn? Hmm. Take a couple of shots, load up to LR. These guys are simply amazing - they can read specs.

[@sergioserramusic]

I hope Canon brings the continuous eye AF into the R with a firmware update, that would make that camera much more interesting, now I’ll probably stick with my 6D2 and if I want to upgrade, the 5D4 is still the better option

[@jasonplucas]

thanks for the great review guys, was interested in this body as an introduction to canon mirrorless but the lack of dynamic range is a deal breaker in this day and age.

[@skakdosmer]

The Canon Eos Rp is much too expensive for what you get. And not having an LP-E6n battery is a BIG dealbreaker. By the way, the function bar of the Eos R is not a thing you can possibly hate! If you don't find it useful, you can just switch it off and forget it. I haven't tried it, but knowing myself I'm sure I'd find a good way to make use of it.

[@ryanthomas9306]

If I dropped fuji for full frame, it would have to be for an awesome body with stabilization. The glass is a huge investment

[@mohamedsabir2573]

many thanks for all yours videos which is halppfull. I have canon m50 but i'm not happy with iso performance in low light. Here in Sweden canon EOS RP and EOS 6D Mark II systemkamera have same price which one du you rekommending to by

[@msamiullah001]

8 bit reference was awesome

[@codyrobinson22]

I sold ALL my Olympus Micro Four Thirds gear last year. I’m seriously considering buying the Canon EOS RP Mirrorless Digital Camera with 24-105mm Lens kit for my 1st FF camera. I can say 100% Canon color science is the best. Definitely more complements from people when using Canon gear.

[@samby5]

I honestly believe you are right that Canon is trying to capture a different audience than the one that watches KZbin video's about cameras. I believe that they will sell plenty of cameras and lens, trying to keep people within their eco-system. Good marketing, I just do not believe Canon completely understands the influence of KZbin in marketing, though. That's my two cents and I am a Canon shooter thinking of going mirrorless, unfortunately, none of their cameras are making me want to stay with them. Thank you for this video, review, and gameplay ;)

[@TL-xw6fh]

But why should beginners and amateurs want to buy or upgrade to this camera? An APS-C or even a M43 camera performs much better, are way smaller (including the lenses) and cheaper.

[@samby5]

@@TL-xw6fh Honestly, because Canon is well known and many families already have an APS-C Canon and just move up... Kind of like how people are in Apple or Android and just stay their.

[@deim]

@@samby5 how many families have an aps and then decide they want a $1.5k camera + $1k lenses without researching first? I'm not sure that there are that many users that want a full frame camera and are at the same time looking for a basic camera.

[@samby5]

@@deim That is absolutely true. I believe Canon is counting on name recognition to drive sales of their cameras. I am by no means an expert in sales, but I imagine this has entered their collective mind. I do believe a "cheap" full frame camera with a Canon name are what they hope will drive sales.

[@samby5]

@@deim I believe this is why they are including the adaptor to use old lens for free as part of their marketing right now.

[@KarenBarca]

This is honestly the best review! Thank you

[@haroldcarlson2775]

It's too bad you guys didn't have the 35mm 1.8 lens available for the review. It seems like a better solution for low light than the 24-105mm.

[@MikeMikeYT]

I appreciate your unbiased opinions.

[@laagventurepbpv6329]

I still believe in Canon EOS RP. I still want it. If you have one that you want to throw please tell me I will get it. Or send it to me. Thank you.

[@Realhistoricist]

Super fair and honest review of this camera and you’re absolutely right to pit it against the xt30. I was debating between canon and Fuji and once I saw the lens lineup and much better hybrid shooting ecosystem, Fuji was a no brainer. Entry level to full frame shouldn’t cost $1300+$700 lens. When I can get a $900 body, $100 kit lens and a prime for an additional $100. No brainer.

[@touringband]

Israel Latham full frame shouldn’t cost $2000? Up until now it always has. Not saying it’s better than a xt30, just saying full frame has always had a high price tag

[@4thNebula]

Nice useful review a usual. I have the EOS R and Sony A7III. No interest in the RP (not williing to go that low in DR) though it seems great for a starter in FF. Appreciate Canon pushing the FF price point down. Canon makes such great usable and build cameras. Someday they may make DR to match the others like Sony.

[@DavidDatura]

Ahhh...the video arcade, fond memories from my younger years.

[@jeremygagliardi7063]

This was extremely helpful to me and helped me decide which way to go for new camera. Thanks so much

[@HeavySpiral]

Is there a lack of motion blur? Especially in the 60p section. Is this overcranked?

[@Raychristofer]

Good job on this review. really thorough and answers all the questions.

[@TL-xw6fh]

So, in conclusion, it's a good camera but ..., but ..., but ..., and so forth. I'll stick with APS-C and M43 cameras. Much cheaper and great lenses available too.

[@andresreyna4260]

@Alex X been thinking about getting a fuji xt3 or a6500/a6400....ive heard Fuji lenses are extremely more expensive, any truth to that?

[@stephengatley8144]

Andres Reyna If you want to shoot APSC buy Fujifilm if you want Full Frame get the Sony A7iii!.

[@billymurphy3]

@@stephengatley8144 agree COMPLETELY

[@jorgem50]

I'm definitely keeping my Panasonic

[@kalvinkuek3987]

When you're always in low light and required to shoot at 3-5k iso with a crop frame then you'll know death

[@rammadhavmohan1890]

You guys are so good at finding great locations to shoot!

[@TheLamShow]

Thanks for the great review. I was about to go pick up the EOS RP today but after watching this video, decided to stick with my trusty 80D.

[@limyohwan]

im just here to be outraged

[@kaywayneflor89]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Argy_V]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ElSoly]

Would this be considering a step up coming from a canon 6D Mark II?

[@Hubieee]

Dpreview did very well in hiring you. A real „The camera store“ legacy video! Keep it up. I wish I had enough money (ah damn I have, but my brain prevents me from doing it) to enter Sony as well... still „left“ with my 6D mk ii and a bulky 70-200 EF lens... still love it :-).

[@aae1977]

Good review and helpful. I know you have good professional integrity and this is a good example of doing a good review which is to sit with the potential buyer of the product and quickly take them through all the major points they would come up against if they could afford to do the same. As you know your genre of professional reviewers is littered with examples of compromised individuals who go easy on these cameras because they are being wined and dined by canon Sony Nikon at some beautiful location and its subtle but the influence of such a relationship is one i hold very near the surface when watching you two review things and this is a good example of holding a new product to task and i appreciate it. I want sony to give me new cameras to play with every time they release something, but since they dont and they give them to you all i am grateful when the videos are not just about how cool it is to get free stuff and look at this cool feature. This one was about how does this stack up in relation to the other options at that price point overall for people like myself where it is a huge deal to commit one way or the other because money is tight so to buy one thing is to lose access to another, that’s opportunity cost and where you two are one of the better reviewers especially Jordan has the curmudgeon thing down so i always know he will speak truth to power as it were. So really this is me seeing what i think is one of your better videos critically and encourage you to take that moment before each review as a team and just remember how subtle is the creep of sunny tropical locations (or even the subtle creep of free gear in the frozen tundras of canada or wherever you all are from - i dont know i am from the United States so the only way we learn geography is if we happen to invade a country) and you certainly gain my loyalty when you are willing to give an in-depth and balanced view as well as being able to step back and compare it to the Panasonic etc. . Keep up the great work.

[@billtownsend]

Good video. A quick question: between the Canon EOS RP and the Olympus OM-D M1 ii, which would you choose?

[@happythec1am]

Nice job guys! Very well rounded review.

[@erikleypoldt8275]

Cant you just get the adapter for other lenses? Also why no battery grip?

[@Sorennn94]

I really like the quality of the 1080p video Is it worth it for only shooting 1080p?

[@franksreellife8818]

I always come here for the latest camera reviews. This camera or the xt30? 75% video 25 stills. Thanks as always!

[@thorsdeantorogi]

Always love this guys honest review👍👍

[@455LT1]

As a beginner casual/travel 📷 taker, I don't see why I would get this over the 80d which can be had new for under $750. After doing lots of research and waiting for this to come out, I decided to go with the 80D. I can get a few Canon primes and zooms plus the body for $1299.

[@patrickfitzgerald2861]

As a 60D owner, I won't criticize your decision, but they are VERY different cameras. The EOS RP is smaller and lighter, and with a decent range zoom lens would make an excellent single lens travel option, particularly in low light situations. The 80D is built like a tank and is a proven winner, but the future belongs to mirrorless cameras, for reasons too numerous to list here. Of course, only you can decide if it's worth the extra expense.

[@455LT1]

@@patrickfitzgerald2861 I weighed those options and at the end of the day, the 80D won out. As a casual non-pro shooter who just wants to take great memorable pics, they are the same to me, a tool to make memories with. I won't be buying another camera for years (hopefully) so the future for right now is irrelevant to me as a casual consumer. The 80D takes great pics for what I'll need and I'd be paying a LOT more to get the same amount lenses on the RP.

[@dzsemx]

80D is faster, better for action, but 1 stop worse in lowlight, and about 0.7 stop less highlight headroom.

[@455LT1]

@@dzsemx Worthwhile compromises. 80D plus canon's ef-s 24mm 2.8, 55-250mm and 10-18mm came to $1276 on one of my favorite sites. Hard to convince me the RP would be better for the target audience that Canon is after. Yes, full frame is ultimately "better," but seems Canon compromised this model too much.

[@IntothewestOkotoks]

love my 80D...RP seemed interesting at first to get "FF", but I have agree, the 80D still makes more sense than spending $500 more for the RP (1/8000 shutter, 7fps, 1080/24, weather sealed, and the PERFECT size body)... And honestly, I've had a tough time being convinced so far that a "cheap" Canon FF camera is worth it. Save the money and buy better glass.

[@markryanoklahoma]

Great detailed review! I didn’t like to hear a lot of it because I did get the RP but I kinda knew what I was getting into before I got it. I don’t shoot video with it. Great, honest review!

[@LarsIngeHolen]

I like low light photography... I am on a budget. So what should I buy? Canon RP, Canon 5d mark iii, Canon 6d mark ii or Sony a7r 2. Really hope you can help 🙏🙏

[@rjsunday]

07:07 i think the RP has weather-sealing

[@dwayneroberts1736]

So I am upgrading from a PowerShot point and shoot camera to a DSLR. I was converted to the Canon 80D, but someone told me to check out the new EOS RP. I am into Architecture but I do small wedding/graduation ceremonies. I also love taking it hiking to do landscape, wildlife, and macro photography. Which camera would you recommend? Which is more sustainable with a low budget?

[@bird271828]

Chris, thank you for a very nice review.

[@GarettHarnish]

While it might be hard to recommend coming from the 6D2, it feels like a major update to my 5D2 ...

[@emgee44]

Another good, fair and unbiased review, no doot aboot it 😉

[@scotie690]

This camera is perfect for its target, like amateurs, beginners, for travelling. I just hope that soon the pro version comes. I love my R but need some extra features.

[@tube63017]

dpreview teams does it again. awesome review. I like these best bcaz you guys think from a buyer perspective. What will I do before spending 1300$ on a camera. Thank you. dp team ,would you say moving from Rebel6 to RP model is a good switch, i am not much of a video shoot, more into landscapes and portraits. I have a lot of EF lenses. I am ready for a full frame camera so what say you? thanks