Sony a6400 vs. Fujifilm X-S10: Two great APS-C cameras with different superpowers

[@maaaps]

Honestly, I agree with Chris on this one.

[@63MacGuy]

I think you are dead wrong. Chris had much better arguments and his hair was nicer.

[@maaaps]

@@63MacGuy Gasp. You leave Chris’s hair out of this, you monster!

[@alan_kong]

Which one lol

[@mavfan1]

So usually you’re dishonest?

[@maaaps]

@@mavfan1 No, no, no! Unusually, I'm honest.

[@patrick_gingras]

The auto white balance in the conclusion clip is truly something else

[@SquirrelHybrid]

Chris was turning every color of the rainbow.

[@luxj]

Pentax Rave, more reasons to shoot pentax

[@DustinBKerensky97]

I was wondering if Jordan edited it and just went crazy moving the WB slider back and forth out of sheer madness.

[@ralphmiranda2077]

It's not like it was obviously obvious. /s

[@themellowhost]

Agreed! Green - Magenta Disco! 🤣

[@djktman]

The pandemic has caused Chris to go insane. Chris is okay though.

[@robertgates3258]

Chris should wear a mask when he's standing that close to himself

[@brat54914]

Ahahaha fucking hell

[@diarmuid8188]

Ya really never know what Chris and Jordan are gonna throw at you when you click play but you do know its gonna be great.

[@nigelwang2447]

That moment when you go to turn up the resolution and it's already on HD. 😂

[@kombasanpracka]

That magnifficent mic drop! LOL

[@johnnydee7480]

I love my Fuji XS-10! Autofocus tracking works great with photos. If they added that to the video it would be incredible. Fuji does need to step up their auto focus game. It’s average, but the image quality is excellent. I’m hoping they could match Sony’s autofocus someday.

[@themellowhost]

I hope they do software updates to include better autofocus!

[@tomboy8856]

Use fujinon gen 2 lenses bro, better autofocus for video

[@mattdelcomyn8012]

Chris this is a brilliant performance. If there was a KZbin Emmy I’d vote you in for this one. Awesome vid and review!

[@DONNYLAI95]

Chris Niccolls starring in "Fight Club 2: Cameras"

[@alan_kong]

Omg so accurate

[@intheblues]

The Pentax is glorious! 🤓 Jordan, you should ask Pentax to ship you out a 1980's-style tracksuit to match the visual. 🤣

[@erbterb]

At one hundred million subscribers! muhaha, muhaha

[@IqbalKurniawan]

4:29 Oh, wow. I could only imagine how awkward Chris would feel talking to an empty street in front of passers-by. 5:33 Chris, "We're gonna do it in this empty parking lot where nobody is watching me talking to an empty wall. It's been awkward." 🤣

[@BrendanEvan]

1:15 It’s like a really wholesome, camera-focused version of the movie “Split”

[@FilipeSalgueiroo]

I feel like the Fuji is the better camera but the amount of lens options (and prices) that is available for Sony just makes me lean more towards Sony...

[@EpicNovA97]

Props to Chris for talking to an imaginary person about a camera with people walking past

[@kalvin.]

The only thing you forgot to mention is the Sony has no record limit which is huge for video podcasts or long form content

[@kalvin.]

But then again Fuji has a tally light so I guess it evens out?

[@showdaKOs]

@@kalvin. but Chris did mention it (the record limit)

[@kalvin.]

@@showdaKOs time stamp? I guess I missed it

[@theob3515]

Jordan I know you love your GH5 but the video coming off of that Pentax K-01 is beautiful, I love how natural the white balance looks and that resolution is incredible

[@mnrqt]

Really? This video quality hurt my eyes :( First I thought that video is running 360p

[@RzaNaziri]

I don't know why the Fuji Chris sounds more believable! Its like he is not playing!

[@cameraconspiracies]

Sony A6400: We Fu**ing gave up.

[@BlueBomberTurbo]

The camera's 2 years old, and ready to be replaced this year. Of course it would fall behind. Meanwhile, the X-S10 is newly released. Odd comparison which would easily favor the newer camera, no matter the brand.

[@endrocahyo15]

I need to see the bloopers

[@tusharadil4313]

Can I just say I love this channel so much, would love to see them hit a million ❤️

[@fatboyslimz2554]

Would the x-s10 be good for professional work? i was thinking of the x-t3 but this has the ibis. I shoot small weddings and portraiture.

[@Dayhaus]

I think I made my choice thank you, the lack of ibis in the sony sways me over to buying the Fuji

[@mchlhth]

When it comes to image quality, it should be mentioned that Sony *still* uses their super weird raw compression on their APS-C cameras that shows artifacts on contrasting edges when shadows and highlights are pushed. This is not just a test chart issue - I have seen it in real life photos I took with Sony cameras, where the edges of tree trunks and pant legs get all pixelated where other raw images might just show a bit of halo-ing.

[@Kai-P]

True, but probably at least as important that they use different ISO standards. Sony ISO 6400 is not the same as Fuji ISO 6400, so comparing it without looking at exposure is always flawed.

[@problemat1que]

@@Kai-P Lossy compression is lossy compression, no matter what the ISO is. Fujifilm raws are compressed lossless, so you'll never see those artefacts with their bodies.

[@Kai-P]

@@problemat1que I didn't mean they are related, just that both can be factors of image quality. Btw: Fujifilm has lossless compressed as an option, but also uncompressed and lossy compressed. Not sure how the lossy compares and the space saving is minor, so probably nobody should use it (you probably know, just if someone reads it and wonders).

[@BlueBomberTurbo]

And then Fuji has X-Trans, which is an artifact generating machine. Winner: Sony.

[@carlkim2577]

If the xs-10 allowed me to save video settings on the custom modes, it would be an instant buy! But no, for some silly reason fuji didn't permit that so no.

[@jan-hendrikbussmann4644]

I would really love to know what the people passing by @4:33 were thinking while you were talking into thin air. On topic: the X-S10 is the nicest Sony A7 Fuji has ever made. The look, the control layout and even the size (although not the weight) are very close.

[@ChannyTao]

Damn with this Pentax K-01, I can really see every single pixels, I don't even have to zoom in! Amazing!

[@xXadambXx]

fuji for me has one problem, only fuji lens... not many has OIS, not all are amazing, but all has premium price. Sigma and tamron not make lens for them...

[@veeaa]

Fuji has Viltrox, Zeiss and Tokina as third party AF lenses. Only prime lenses at the moment though. X-S10 and X-T4 have IBIS so no need for OIS anymore.

[@Arbiteralbion]

@@veeaa Think the same, for me the future is in IBIS bodies and non stabilized lenses. I'm new to camera world but I don't understand why fuji is still making ultra wide angle lenses with OIS like the 10-24 OIS WR. That and the lack of third party zoom lenses are what keeps me from buying a X-S10.

[@kaneclements7761]

Hi Adam B. Sigma coming to Fuji X mount soon.

[@victorng2996]

I love pentax video so much... especially with the random colour shifting so cool... so far no camera is able to simulate that effect

[@no2475]

About a year and a half ago I was in the market for my first 'real' camera. Got super close to buying an a6400 that I found at a banger price but I wanted to hold the camera in my hand first before dropping the money. Went to a local store to see if they have any on display and found an a6100. I have to say I was not a fan of the way it looked and felt in person. Bought an X-S10 a few weeks later instead even though it cost me a few hundreds more than the a6400 would have. No regrets, love this camera. Ultimately it comes down to what you want out of your camera. The unlimited recording time on the Sony for example is an awesome feature, but I barely ever shoot video so it's not very important to me. I will admit thought I do wish the Fuji had at least comparable face tracking to the Sony. Sometimes it can be a real pain to use.

[@aaronhyde5509]

I just so happen to be comparing both in 2022 for vlogging/video webinars, years after the A6400 came out (and nearly a year after this original post), as I'm going to be doing 'stable' (mounted) videos and webinars, but also want a camera I can go out and shoot with. I can get a similar A6400 package right now for a few hundred less. Thanks, this is one of the best tech reviews I've seen. I got more out of this than either of these as a single product review... still don't know which to buy though :) I like the A6400's autofocus and unlimited recording as I may be making some videos over 30 minutes- though guess I could just record to my computer with X-S10?

[@HappyHubris]

IBIS really deserves its own category. Having IBIS at this price point is really impressive. And I say that as a former A6400 owner. Honestly this is a tough choice. The X-S10 has IBIS and better handling, while the Sony has magic autofocus and weather-sealing. As a left-eyed person I would choose against the rangefinder, but for righties it's a tossup.

[@peoplez129]

Yet they both have worse image quality at 100 ISO than a 15 year old full frame camera, and turn to mush at higher ISO's. Basically ALL full frame cameras ever made > all APSC's.

[@TechnoBabble]

@@peoplez129 Have fun with your 5D II or D700. I'll continue having 4k video, higher resolution, better dynamic range, and 8+fps bursts with nearly every shot in focus. ;)

[@peoplez129]

@@TechnoBabble I actually use the 5D Mk1, still pretty good. Go to DPREVIEW and look at the camera RAW comparisons.

[@danieldougan269]

Canon and Nikon need to come out with more competitive APS-C cameras. The Z50 is pretty decent, but it lacks IBIS, and the screen flips down...and no 10-bit video. It is weather-sealed, which is an advantage over these two.

[@BlueBomberTurbo]

The M6 II is an excellent performer, though the tacked-on EVF ruins things.

[@mvhan911]

@@BlueBomberTurbo and nonIBIS again

[@Yuri-ry4ib]

@@mvhan911 The digital stabilization is surprisingly good

[@danieldougan269]

The Canon R7 is actually compelling. Finally.

[@elinavance3476]

@@danieldougan269 but it uses full frame lenses. it`s not compact enough for me and other people, who choose apsc not just because of the price, but also because of the small size.

[@bertjilk3456]

I don't know if people are watching KZbin on HD TVs or something, but I really don't get it when people say things like "the K-01 is hurting my eyes". The video looks perfectly viewable to my untrained eye.

[@hermannroeger8594]

K-01 makes it look a little nostalgic. That soft image with oversharpened edges, the lack of dynamic range... I remember shooting in this quality with some of the first DSLRs featuring video recording option. Back then it looked impressive compared to video8 footage.

[@MprivetM]

I was waiting for the "hair" remark, Chris delivered, I'm content :)

[@sans6956]

Can’t get enough of Chris vs Chris 👍

[@DanPandrea]

Are both Chrises aware of The Ship of Theseus?

[@james123202]

THANKS for the debate ... as I own Sony, Fujifilm & Panasonic cameras and often think about their strengths & weaknesses :)

[@m.masroor]

which one has better dynamic range and color depth .also how much better

[@allenschneider1847]

Would like to see this comparison between the xs10 and the a6600. Would that be a closer battle?

[@tomd4748]

6600 is lame

[@-Tristan-]

How does the Fuji Eyetracking perform with animals? Everywhere I read it's not working, you have to manually focus.

[@brynocerouss]

I'm *LOVING* the white balance shifts at the end.

[@cedtv8899]

I FREAKING want more of this cris vs cris with the verbal word is dam good

[@spikeweb5193]

Ok, which one is better for photos and which is better for video?

[@ryankwan1934]

I think there should be a category for ease of processing RAWs. I could never get on board with Fuji as my only camera because the X-Trans filter destroys landscapes unless you use a specific work flow and software. Not having access to DxO's Deep Prime alone should be one negative point for Fuji.

[@peoplez129]

Xtrans is a gimmick. Offers no advantage over bayer, and only disadvantages. Any detail that falls within those 2x2 blocks of green pixels, is basically invisible to the sensor. That's why it does soo poorly on landscape and turns it into mush....it literally can't see the detail. It's the camera equivalent of color blindness.

[@PaulBawby]

Jordan is doing a great job, but I can't wait for this Pentax challenge to be over!!

[@clar5874]

I think that a Canadian talking about the price of the a6400 and the X-S10 being in the same price category so they shouldn't bring up the A6600 is hilarious (Edit: Mentioned around 6:40). Right now (March 6-2021), the a6600 with the kit lens is technically $50 less than X-S10 with the kit lens. If we are talking about the a6400 with a kit lens it is actually $600 CAD less expensive right now ($1300 CAD vs. $1900 CAD).

[@grahamhobbs3501]

One of the reasons I'm OK using Pentax cameras is that I don't care about video any more than Ricoh seems to and never use i - so I was actually surprised at how acceptable the video is - admittedly in the hands of an expert, but all the same...

[@RitchaRao]

Hi, can you please guide me about which camera will be best for capturing makeup shots and portraits, mostly indoors? Fuji XS10 or sony5100 ? I actually want good results but have budget constraint too.

[@rockyboy976]

Hey Jordan, is the 16-80mm a good lens to go with the x-s10 if I were to buy only one lense?

[@emadalhmzy3172]

Yes

[@fwfeo]

9:52 How's a6400 a Gold award at 85% and X-S10 a Silver award at 86%?? Is a6400 really better at high iSO and produce better jpegs according to the conclusions page?? 4:38 ISO comparison!

[@SpeedyNeo]

Awards rewarded at time of release which in this case 2 years apart

[@martysender5539]

The Pentax is the best camera. whoa. great video. I'm buying a Pentax

[@quite1enough]

I had quite painful experience with a6400. EVF is atrocious, and despite the same resolution, X-S10 EVF is much much better. The only positive thing in a6400 is lack of record limit in video which saved me couple times. And for the price you'll get much much more with X-S10.

[@BlueBomberTurbo]

Interesting. The A6400 has a hair higher resolution, and larger magnification. Did you set it to high quality and fast refresh modes?

[@quite1enough]

@@BlueBomberTurbo yep

[@TechnoBabble]

@@BlueBomberTurbo The a6400's EVF is only better when you're not autofocusing and not in the high framerate mode. As soon as you're using that 120fps mode or you're autofocusing the quality tanks.

[@iaragomes5870]

I agree. Horrible sony a6400 sended back fast . Autofocus keep tracking wrong stuff and quality of image also not so great all depend on ligth etc

[@frostymintx3771]

which is better for lowlight?

[@marktan1324]

Love the format of this video and Chris is really good at debating...against himself.

[@JasonOverHere]

By far my favorite part of this (other than it's pretty funny all around), is the K-01's constantly shifting WB. I think we should see another episode (or series of episodes) with ridiculous cameras shooting video.

[@navireljan1857]

It should be a win for Sony in terms of lenses. Yes they have a lot of lenses but Fuji lenses are very expensive. I mean example like the Sigma 16mm vs Fuji 16mm both at f1.4, probably same image quality but the Fuji lens is more than double the price.

[@slimphotog]

Tamron and Sigma lenses save Sony APS-C. I think Sony is overpriced also.

[@peoplez129]

Does the Pentax K-01's storage come in the form of a VHS cartridge?

[@dancygr]

The Fuji is a better camera but I would go with the a7c over both for the battle of a small camera, but only if u can find a used one so the price isn't so high.

[@lyaxedm1825]

First of all the a7c is way above the price point of these cameras. Also it just came out so you won't find it used

[@RoyADane]

This does bring up another point: the A6400 has a full frame upgrade path. I can use my full frame ( 16-35GM, 24-70GM ) lenses on the A6400. I also like the fact that Sony has ( more or less ) standardized it's batteries. My A6400 and A7Rii use the same battery and the A6600 uses the same battery as the newer full frame cameras.

[@Vinterloft]

A used camera that just came out, good luck with that

[@rambo9599]

now i can only imagine what someone passing by would have thought about watching this interaction.

[@animaxxx4429]

Holy shit, mad man have done it. The comparison I knew I needed. Love for Fuji all the way ❤️📸

[@1985Adonis]

You guys missed mentioning that the Sony is weather sealed.

[@SeaBayProductions]

I solved my XS10's Battery issue easily .... (Me after buying 6 additional batteries for an all day shoot!) lol .... that's my only knock on my xs10, other than battery life, its perfect for my needs.

[@jesseontour9377]

Does the camera do well in low light? I’m thinking of buying it as my first proper camera 📸 I’ve been using an iPhone XS so far :)

[@MrEugeneNEGATIVE]

Well done! as Sony user - the rolling shutter joke was appreciated )) and despite strange Sony's Apsc policy, i'm still waiting for their answer to xt3-4 (in terms of renewed technologies and camera's positioning in general)

[@TedTalksTech]

I am confused, the video is streaming at 1440p but it still looks like 720p 🤨

[@Sorennn94]

What about the canon M6 mark ii between those two?

[@Princeton_James]

Got an xt3 that I rarely use but the IQ and size of lenses is preferred over my a7iii. Rather than moving up to the xt4 I'm going to give the XS10 a shot bc of the handling and IBIS.

[@cevxj]

what do you mean IQ? Which lenses are you using on either?

[@Yuri-bc2qr]

@@cevxj Image Quality

[@Nuntjako]

A little Camera Conspiracies inspiration? I like it!

[@DarkPa1adin]

but casey makes himself look a bit crazy.

[@timleahezra]

But Sony has stabilized primes for APS-C... and for low $ used because they have been around for a while... It might not be IBIS, but it helps. Everyone seems to miss this.

[@GrumpyMansREVIEWS]

This video was perfect timing I'm looking at both of these camera's I'm using the Canon M50 I'm more towards the Fujifilm or do you think I should go with the Canon 90D it's mainly for video thanks

[@robertlaunder638]

Is it just me or is the K-01's auto white balance going crazy during that last shot?

[@alexandermedina9886]

I see it man too lol 😂 😅

[@sasagoran.]

I just used both cameras to film an event. The fuji was almost unusable, HUGE overheating issues and the 30 min time limit really requires constant attention while the sony just kept going

[@TheWackiestDood]

was this on 4k? also you're positive this was the x-s10?

[@sasagoran.]

@@TheWackiestDood yes to both

[@thatguyoverthere54]

I think A6600 vs X-S10 would have been a more interesting comparison, considering the A6600's more comparable grip, and the inclusion of IBIS. Yes they're different prices, but it would have been interesting to see if the A6600 justifies it's price premium.

[@Vinterloft]

A6600 vs. Fuji X-S10 is basically "pick the one you like more, and will work out cheaper with the lenses you want". For me the X-S10 makes more sense just because it's faster, has no noticeable rolling shutter and never overheats when filming 4K30.

[@mvhan911]

IBIS in 6600 is in all Test not better that OSS of the kit lens 16-50. It is the least effective IBIS and more disappointing

[@jhuelsmann9430]

Thanks for the review! Helped me decide on purchasing the Fujifilm X-S10

[@pertang630]

The content of some of your videos, like this one, I don't have as much interest in, but I watch because if Chris and Jordan. That's how you do KZbin. Keep the videos coming

[@fotobill]

i had so much fun, whating this video. Fantastic one-man-show. Looks real. Thanks Chris°

[@AnastasTarpanov]

What's happening at the end with this weird white balance shifting, is really the Pentax so bad?

[@SMGJohn]

That moment when most people do not even mind the Pentax K-01 footage, LOL.

[@jmk868]

Sony: 85 % gold award Fuji 86 % silver award WHAT?

[@BlueBomberTurbo]

Based on their competition, not overall. Go to the comparison chart in either review's Conclusion page and see which cameras are in the same category (hint: they're in separate categories).

[@DarkPa1adin]

past gold isn't the present gold any more... so

[@stevencrinson7986]

I have a Pentax K-01 with a biscuit lens and AF is really noisy, how did you keep yours quiet? 🥴

[@dpreview]

We’ve been recording audio externally. The K-01 audio is really rough.

[@johansphoto]

Good video! The one thing that is often forgotten in these reviews are that the Sony don't have a recording limit for video. I am currently looking for a camera to use for travel and as a second body for events. As a camera, I prefer the XS-10, but at times I need my second body to shoot event videos on a tripod, and then the 30 minutes recording limit on the Fuji is a deal breaker. So the a6400 or a6600 are basically the only options even though they feel overpriced for what they deliver in 2021.

[@Vinterloft]

The A6400 will overheat in 10-15 minutes anyway. The X-S10 is known to keep going forever when recording externally, or restarting every 30m. Besides, once the EU tax clause is lifted in july, Fuji will probably just Firmware update the limit away like they always do

[@johansphoto]

@@Vinterloft No there is no overheating problem with the newer Sony cameras like a6400. But I hope you are right about Fuji, but need to see it first.

[@saifaldin_]

@@Vinterloft My previous camera the a6000 overheated quite easily. I’ve used an a6400 for the one and a half years now, and it hasn’t overheated once.. and i live near the equator.

[@TechnoBabble]

​@@Vinterloft The a6400 is one of Sony's best cameras when it comes to overheating, stop being a blind fanboy.

[@neurocirurgiaobh]

My simple amateur video perception is that they are comparable cameras, but one thing I can say, Fujifilm's build, body, grip and lens side by side with any sony cropped a6300, a6400, a6500, a6600, the truth is the Sonys look a toy for children. When you see simplicity and user care in the logical environment of fujifilm software, you will be miles away from Sony. The only if on the fuji side is when in low light, but if it's stronger only you compare it with Sony's fullframe A7 series.

[@tobysource]

Hahaha I love running into these old videos shot on the Pentax. Instantly recognizable every time.

[@emonlovesevrythin7338]

this chris vs chris should be the gold standard for dp review..next jordan vs jordan..make it happen fast...

[@markaustin614]

Awesome Chris.... but Fuji Chris is really where his heart is!

[@PaulWon]

im here for the pentax k-01

[@sajostory]

I was gonna buy an a6400 but bought an X-S10 instead because of this video. thanks!!! :)

[@selfnoise]

Jordan it's the "Pentax Kay Zero One". Pronounce it properly or we'll make you use it for another month. :)

[@rockyboy976]

Hey Jordan, also I saw ur pre-amp comparison video Great work there but have Fujifilm made any improvements on the pre-amps for the x-t4 or x-s10? Any info on it would greatly help. Please let me know. Many thanks and wish u a Happy Easter :-)

[@vidthreenorth4007]

KZbin put this in my suggested list for no apparent reason, but it has been over a year since I saw it before, so I decided to watch it again. In general "it stands up well" over time. I did realize that it was missing some points that I felt were important for video. The Sony Picture Profiles are particularly useful for integrating the a6400 into a Semi-Pro/Pro video environment. This is especially true for people who work with Sony's real video cameras (FX6 and above) but to a lesser extent with other "real video" cameras. Though on the other hand, the Picture Profiles on the a6400 are limited to 8-bit implementations, which makes them less useful than they might be. And that, I think is what you missed for the Fuji. If I remember correctly, it has 10-bit out the HDMI port, which is also a big deal for integrating into a Semi-Pro/Pro environment. And these environments are huge for video. Still photographers can work solo, but in the video world, "successful" Pro work is general done in groups. Anyway, it was fun to see it again. I should add that for 4K video, I now use a Sony a6400, a Lumix G85 and a Sony FDR-AX53.

[@peregrinolincoln]

After thinking about and researching a camera for vlogging for a long time, I finally decided to get the Sony A6400. It will be used primarily to take photos and make videos for the church where I serve as pastor. There are so many good cameras out there. I found the A6400 on sale with a zoom lens and decided to get it after thinking about it for a long time. I am glad I am finally going to start on this project. Thank you for your videos - they are very helpful.

[@detectivejonesw]

That opening shot actually looked cool on the K-01... But then it deteriorated some what if I'm being totally honest

[@josephszpak3071]

If my max budget was $2,500 (USD) would the X-S10 be the camera to go with after "kitting" it out, or something else?

[@HirnVerstand]

What exactly is the deal with the K-01? I get it's a running gag now but how did it come to that?

[@SpardasTechReviews]

Chris is right. The 2 extra megapixels go a long way

[@Bbarm97]

pentax looks so good omg. it looks like 90s

[@sudhendrasonawane6459]

I love when Fuji Chris says arrogant to sony Chris 😁😬

[@RaquelFoster]

It feels weird talking about minor differences between APS-C bodies. None of it is enough to switch lens ecosystems. Are Fuji lenses really good enough to call it a tie? My favorite lens is the $400 Sigma 16mm f/1.4, and Fuji's 16mm f/1.4 is $999. I guess I feel like the Fuji is better for non-nerds, but those aren't the people watching DPReview videos 😄

[@noeltan1861]

i love the alter -ego debate! i like this channel for this open-minded debates. i also have the sony a64 i admit its shortcomings and its upsides.. no camera is perfect.

[@yusufbali3779]

Sony has been the the best for autofocus, who doesn’t know ?, but in a simple way we get the best result and client satisfaction with Fuji and for cinematic feel with no doubt lumix sh1 still on the top list! We know that sh1 have Ben standard for Netflix production. Cheers!🍻