Dr. Umar Johnson confronted by LGBT Feminist during Xseed in Life program KC 2015

[@producer4real]

If you're black and gay the world will treat you as a black person first. Let's deal with things in order.

[@ameliacampbell6679]

Thank you. Marcus Garvey said "We are a race cursed by petty differences." We are the only people who are still dividing each other by category. Ex: colorism, etc. This will continue to be our downfall.

[@sandrallewellyn2632]

yeah...not buying that, black women experience both sexism and racism differently BECAUSE they are black women. Just like there are different types of racism where we acknowledge that the US operates on anti-black racism which is different than the racism that other racial and ethnic groups experience. You are all of your identities ALL the time and how you see, move through, and experience the world is not through one identity at a time. Telling people to downgrade parts of their identity(parts that might be MORE important and consequential for them in their lives than their racial identity-black people aren't a monolith) is like white folks telling black folks that All Lives Matter so stop talking about your blackness and the issues of importance to your community(like murder with impunity by tax paid law enforcement). Basically you don't think all black lives matter. Not saying we have to be a part of all the movements at the same time or with the same zealousness, but we have leave room for and acknowledge different types of blackness and black experiences. And that your experience is not universal, just because we're both black doesn't mean you know me. Our struggles are inextricably linked and so is our liberation.

[@Sexsess]

agreed

[@losangelesangel2888]

Shelton Ross Actually the world treats me like a human being. How exactly do black people get treated?

[@losangelesangel2888]

Shelton Ross I travel a lot and get treated the same. So how exactly do black people get treated?

[@dbrown251]

I dislike when people compare the LGBT movement with the black struggle movement. He broke it down beautifully!

[@mikwhsjs7972]

People should not compare l g p t to racism your skin color is seen your sexual preference is your business don't get it twisted.

[@imsoicy87]

Bad analogy

[@Anerdi1]

That's right. They are not the same.

[@tylarjones239]

They’re literally trying to insinuate that their struggles can match up to that of 400/500 “recorded” years of oppression, abuse, and murders.

[@mikesimmons2286]

dbrown251 and look wat they doin now exactly that smh

[@cookieinpalmbeach]

The Lbgt struggle is a struggle to practice a certain BEHAVIOR! The black struggle is a struggle to be treated like a human being!

[@yerobalogun6896]

FACTS

[@savagelife787]

Conversation. Over.

[@b9y]

So you're saying it's a choice?

[@ravenstxr5806]

b9y people see your race before they see your sexuality. One takes priority over the other.

[@donnygv27]

Lol what behavior is that? They fight for the same thing we fight fod

[@woodz852]

She's not hearing anything that he says. She is fixed mentally and physically in her position and no matter what he says, she will not believe him.

[@DonnyBlacc_]

Exactly what Dave Chappelle is talking about with the alphabet people they don't listen 💪😎

[@paulmcfeeters5554]

Her denial between her ears is much louder than his words of wisdom alas.

[@easeyyy1800]

That’s feminism for you

[@Taylordessalines]

Yup. Confirmation bias

[@madelinedaigle7598]

@@DonnyBlacc_ lol I just said the same thing

[@GunnaGunna22]

U Cannot equate the gay struggle with the black struggle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Understand that!!!!!!!!

[@philliplee1500]

They are not two separate issues. This is what is frustrating about this clip: he completely misunderstood what the woman is saying. Look up “intersectionality” - why is the murder of unarmed black women always overshadowed by the murder of unarmed black men? Why is it that data shows that black LGBTQ men and women are more oppressed and marginalized than white LGBTQ men and women? I thought the woman’s example of the founders of #BLM was a perfect example of how one dimensional the doctor’s approach was: it’s hard to be black. It’s hard to be LGBTQ. Imagine how hard it is to be both and then be told your struggles have to side with either being black or being LGBTQ.

[@philliplee1500]

Curtis Steele : you don’t need black approval or LGBTQ approval to know what is objectively right and wrong. Do you only believe murder is wrong because you have murdered someone and have decided afterwards it’s wrong?

[@damarh]

there is no black struggle, there is no gay struggle. all that bullshit is in their minds. ~Fox news.

[@techmatetrading1994]

Yea....not the gay white struggle. The gay black struggle you can.

[@PlayNiceFolks]

Struggle is struggle. It's just laziness be so obsessed with micro classifications of the different kinds of struggles out there. Weak people being abused by powerful people for no good reason. Close enough.

[@sahraabdul9190]

"You can not equate the gay struggle with the black struggle!....The LGBT movement is a right to practice a certain behavior! The black movement is the right to be treated like a HUMAN!" Perfect words!!

[@truettadevil]

The LGBT movement is the fight to have the same treatment and benefits and rights as all people (i.e. marriage, health benefits, etc). They do not need anyone's permission to have sex with whom they choose. And the fact that you don't know or understand this is probably the same reason why you blindly follow the ill-informed as well.

[@truettadevil]

You are not making a clear correlation pertaining to my statement and the original statement. You are repeating rhetoric. One cannot argue a standpoint if they are not clear on the purpose of movements nor have a clear definition of terminology used. If you have an original thought you'd like the share, I am open to discussion.

[@makellasafe]

Yes my sister!!!

[@truettadevil]

No... so says the dictionary (lol). Knowledge is free to those who seek it.

[@rikayapartlow]

***** exactly!

[@joeburger5485]

no one knows you’re gay until you say “im gay” but you cant hide being black. its pretty poor to compare the two when they are no where near comparable

[@Justin.D.DC4L]

I've been saying that forever.

[@RT-qz5ci]

@@Justin.D.DC4L same. Choice or not gay people can pretend to be something else whenever they want. Im black all day everyday everywhere i go

[@justforme__]

You've never seen someone and said, "He/She is probably gay..." without them telling you what their sexuality is? Gtfo of here. Black and gay aren't comparable, but what is your point?? What does that mean for a black and gay person??

[@RT-qz5ci]

@@justforme__ compared to the number of gay people ive seen and had no clue that is totally irrelevant. People can discriminate against black people from a distance. See a name like tyrone on a resume? Pass. That type of shit DOES NOT happen to gay people. They need to fight their own battle and stop trying to hitchhike on what the black community is fighting for.

[@justforme__]

@@RT-qz5ci I'm not saying that it's easier being black than gay. But again, what is your point?? I think you guys are confusing the gay community with white people. There are black gay people and to black gay people y'all sound like you don't get it. What if Tyrone was gay as well? Y'all keep arguing that black and gay aren't the same but that's not the point... Y'all need to stop pretending as if LGBTQ can't be black as well. Life is more complicated than belonging to just one identity.

[@jennygoodman6885]

He's right that you cannot equate the gay struggle with the black struggle. Not even close.

[@keithpounds4933]

It’s great to hear men like this guy, Jesse Lee Peterson, Jordan Peterson who are not afraid to address feminists.

[@greggpoppabich9281]

But, they do....& then call u uh "homophobe" 4 speakn out against it.

[@kr6985]

You cannot equate them no, but he’s saying that pro lgbt people are fighting for a right to “practice a certain behavior” but black people are fighting for the right to be treated as a human being and that’s where he’s wrong. It’s human nature to have a sexual attraction to someone, whatever their genitalia. Both the lgbt community and the black community are fighting to be treated as human beings because both are not treated that way.

[@joel1228]

@@kr6985 I agree. I'm a straight white male, but I don't understand how you can say your struggle is "worse" than someone else's, without knowing their struggle. He says gays want to practice a certain behavior, and then in the same sentence says they have a mental disability - making them feel less human... yeah, that checks out. Lol

[@kr6985]

@@joel1228 You’re right.

[@uptownsamcv]

NOBODY IS BORN HOMOSEXUAL, NO ONE IS BORN SEXUALLY AWARE !!! I TOTALLY AGREE WITH HIS LAST STATEMENT IN THIS VIDEO.....

[@NeverLetLoveGo]

It means that you naturally grow into who you are destined to be.

[@derrickharrisjr8472]

Your statement was 4 years ago and I hope you have a better understanding at this point about homosexuality however, people are born homosexual. There maybe others out there that feels they grew into their sexuality, but it didn’t happen that way for me. I was born this way. It was a choice for me to be with a woman. I don’t feel I actually had that choice when it comes to men. And since I have had education on child sexuality I will inform you that by the age of 3 a child knows who they are sexually. They may not understand the magnitude of the action of sex, but they know what gender they are drawn to. Just a little education.

[@davidharris7769]

@@derrickharrisjr8472 just because your drawn to something doesn't make it right or not a sin🤦🏾‍♂️ We are naturally drawn to sin that's why it's important to hear the truth(from God) so you can be set free from that spiritual bondage. Do you know how many gay or lesbians have changed there stance on believing they were born that way after they find out there true identity in Christ?

[@derrickharrisjr8472]

samuel lopes that’s amazing I’m proud of them nothing taken away from those individuals however, “he who has not sinned cast the first stone”. We were born into sin. We look at same sex relationships as unnatural, but we don’t talk about the battle within ourselves to fight the “unnatural” feelings because the world says it’s wrong. We don’t talk about the self hate because of how the world has perceived us. We don’t talk about the suicidal thoughts that an individual goes through. All because we try to change ourselves to fit into “the worlds” view of how we should be. I SHOULD have a wife with 2 kids, and a white picket fence, work for a company for 30 years get my pension and die. If I listen to what the world say I should do and be I would have killed myself. Thank God I do know God. And it’s Gods judgement that we bare. “Greatest above all is LOVE” and that’s scripture. Let’s not talk about things we don’t know about. The doctor doesn’t bring unity he’s bringing misunderstandings and separation.

[@09nob]

@@davidharris7769 Ha ha that's funny there were gays around before Christianity was even invented.

[@jjw1997]

She was not prepared to have this conversation.

[@jjw1997]

@Karol Palazej A dumb person stands up to speak and not be prepared. An even dumber person makes a stupid comment trying to defend the person.

[@mofamba]

Karen’s

[@genefield54]

if she doesnt want her people to be called names like thugs, criminals, and unintelligent then stop acting that way and in return stop call ALL white people racist and white supremacists when they dont all act that way. it works both ways sister.

[@anthonymeschino8679]

She wasn’t ready

[@keiko909]

@Karol Palazej lol really? he gave her chance to voice her opinion. he didn't just speak over her.

[@jay2k965]

why is this in my recommendations 5 years later😭😭😭

[@michaeljackson5790]

The "election" is an illusion, dark days are coming. Stay strong and be safe out there!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYuWdXdmZ8uqfdU

[@LyteNes]

Censorship

[@aidanavila8971]

lol

[@wtfvenusss]

@@michaeljackson5790 MICHAEL ??!!!? omg

[@personperson7763]

Ong

[@leemarvin5738]

That lady is everything she thinks she struggles against.

[@Mrdudezful]

Dude, spot on!!! Boom!

[@mrbeez8631]

This guy... 👆🏽 -woooshhhhh

[@e.r.6147]

So true

[@saintsone7877]

@Shane Maritch Agree with him or not he was able to give reasons for his position. She simply said he was wrong no matter what source he quoted yet was unable to give even one reason his statement/s were wrong. One was debating(him) the other was indoctrinating/enforcing belief(her). If your only defense is to say someone is wrong you have no point or validity to your position. He spoke from a professional opinion based on all the cases he has dealt with over many years. She just made unsupported statements of opinion. She made a fool of herself and her movement. An old saying goes" Better to remain quiet and have people suspect you are a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt". That is what she did. She clearly demonstrated she was an intellectually bankrupt individual who based all her views on emotional belief and mantra.

[@leemarvin5738]

@@saintsone7877 Couldn't have said it better.

[@c-manor-kage5620]

She got embarrassed. The worrying thing is she was shaking her head upon hearing facts...self conditioning is real

[@jwilliamcosby]

With an awkward smile.

[@Richiefitness]

Cognitive dissonance

[@michaela5053]

Yesssss

[@rhaynes4306]

He stood there arguing semantics about what constitutes a “phobia” instead of making any kind of discernible point. It’s very sad to see people taken in by this moron spouting pseudo-intellectual bullshit to justify just not liking gay people, and thinking he’s some master debater.

[@zerokool-2058]

Ryan Haynes So he suppose to like everyone? Can’t force nobody to like anyone.

[@MelodylRoots]

You'll always be seen as black FIRST before gay by the police, or any other person for that matter. Both struggles can not be put on the same platform.

[@fastmoneywillie2163]

no stop buying into mtv bullshit

[@imforeverbwa6209]

FastMoney Willie cap

[@lornegreen6755]

Big facts

[@keithklassen5320]

Regardless, LGBTQ Black people are more likely to be hurt or killed, compared to other Black people. You can say it doesn't matter but it matters to those who get hurt or killed.

[@donnygv27]

melody, that is a very dumb line of reasoning

[@desertflwrs]

Loving the civil discourse here, not once does he disrespect or allow himself to be dragged into an emotional shouting match

[@savmoses2438]

you get nowhere doing that with Super emotional people😭

[@donnygv27]

lol he literally spend s the whole debate interrupting and talking over her what ar you talking about

[@Jackson-mi3dr]

donnygv27 who’s there to speak? Who did the audience come to watch? It ain’t about her

[@anwlovett2895]

I like this guy and im a conservative because i feel thats the least racist party. The white liberal has never been a friend of the african American

[@victoroses7631]

Timothy Mccarthy Yeah that def was a great way to say that.

[@indigobeauty1]

Why does everyone always compare their struggles with the Black struggles??? 🤔

[@blaqrose6911]

To down play it

[@thepotato3275]

to take advantage of the BLM movement

[@indigobeauty1]

@@thepotato3275 It's really annoying...and when people bring Black people into their drama to make an example, just leave us out of it 😩

[@maverick6775]

I swear and Im not black, usually white liberals be like "Not wanting to date a specific group of people based on their weight is like saying i dont black people...like wtf"

[@MontUHURU_Mimia777]

*They do this to **_LEGITIMIZE_** their struggles because they know **_HOW MUCH MORE WE SUFFER_** just based on our skin color. For example, gays **_can hide their sexuality, but we CAN'T HIDE OUR ETHNICITY,_** so they know, even if they don't want to admit it, Black people struggle **_ten times more than they EVER DID._*

[@s0la.scr1ptura]

She said “the definition of hate speech is speech that offends…” nope. Already you’re wrong. In that case all speech is hate speech because everyone is offended by everything nowadays.

[@Ahmad-ut6np]

Preach!

[@CJ-fq2cf]

She is kinda right in a sense cause what sounds hateful to people is (subjective) so different for others. Hate speech is speech that offends. Different people get offended at different things.

[@CJ-fq2cf]

Also if the person who says a ‘hateful’ comment didn’t mean to be hateful in saying it. And the person who the comment was said to didn’t find it hateful, But u found it offensive, is it hate speech?

[@KaauhurK]

@@CJ-fq2cf she's not right when it comes to offending. otherwise every opinion and ideology would be hate speech. in a way you just said if someone says murdering someone is bad to a serial killer and it offends him its a hate speech. there will always be one person that doesnt agree with another's opinion which is fine. its not hate speech whatsoever to find another person's comments not the same as yours.

[@kevinhull7925]

To be fair, she also added “threatens and insults”, which is, IMO, more reasonable. I also heard, that for many people who are of her school of thought, power plays a role (in defining various -isms as “prejudice plus power”, a popular definition, which is how they say anti-white racism can’t exist). Thus, it would be different if a privileged group (white, male, straight, cis [not trans], Christian) is targeted than a marginalized group (POC, women, non-binary people, LGBTQ people, Jews [though sometimes they consider Jews white], Muslims, atheists, agnostics, etc). Maybe that is a reason they don’t seem to think that labeling offensive stuff as hate speech could be used against them and values they hold dear.

[@MyPrescriptions]

“You can’t equate the gay struggle with the black struggle” 💯🙏🏿

[@rivvy2138]

Yes you can.

[@LazyDev27]

I equate struggle with struggle. Thats how words work

[@TheHologram3299]

@@LazyDev27 that made absolutely zero sense

[@missqt48]

No you cannot. Just like 2 crimes cannot be compared! One is sexual, which is A CHOICE! Just like sexual appetite is A CHOICE! being born a mahogany/ hazelnut/ chocolate or caramel colour is NOT A CHOICE! You can’t choose to be brown today and yellow tomorrow, red on Friday and pink on Sunday! I’m guessing Rivvy ain’t even melanated.

[@rivvy2138]

@@missqt48 Yes you absolutely can. You don't choose to be gay as much as you don't choose to be black. Tf? An assault on your orientation is the same as that on your race.

[@i.AmHymn]

Respect to ALL people...but the brutha dropped pure GEMS here...simple and plain! Hymn

[@kevc2028]

i. Am Hymn​ I like what hr had to say. My position is much like his. Where did you find these types of media / information in a community on g+ perhaps?

[@i.AmHymn]

Kev C Ryt on, brutha. There are various forums/groups on g+...but I normally see things on KZbin, then comment on them - which posts on my g+ channel. Hymn

[@kevc2028]

i. Am Hymn ty I have s KZbin account but to not use it much at all. What are some of the search criterior you use as I've found that tool to be redundant at times? Btw, gm..

[@i.AmHymn]

Kev C​ Brutha, let me tell ya, I have so many connections on KZbin, I simply just look at my gmail, and see which channel I want to view at any given moment. i don't agree with every point Dr. Umar makes (in general), but he's pretty much on point here. Hymn 

[@poorandimmature]

i. Am Hymn I'm not surprised there is a lot of rejection of civil rights for gays in the black community because they seem to demand a monopoly on victomhood. Think about it, if you operated by going around telling people you were oppressed and constantly demanded compensation for it - of course you would be outraged someone is butting in on that market. That's why you don't see this kind of vitriol in asian, hispanic, or other minority communities, because only blacks claim to have the monopoly on the victomhood commodity. Don't you know that black people are the only ones who ever had to struggle in this country? How dare you suggest you also want civil rights? ugh god black xenophobia is the worst, because they don't even realize how bigoted they are.

[@seanchaney3086]

We may not see eye to eye on even half of serious issues, but he's on point here

[@billwilliam8146]

That is the point of all of us Jews whites blacks Mexicans, who do not wish to be free to be respected and understood 👍, you're coming has one element that most Americans need to have wisdom and common Sense like your comment. 👍✌️

[@dylanwalker4164]

He's also a known fraud and has stolen hundreds of thousands of dollars from swarms of poor and working class people

[@billwilliam8146]

@@dylanwalker4164 yes I remember like it was yesterday he actually came down by way too about that school he supposed to be getting, but I have to do more research and somebody filed a lawsuit about that and come to find out the money still there but I haven't done my research so I'll be careful about saying that. 👍 Yes cuz you have to be careful cuz so many people, are and doing whatever they have to do to get your money out your pocket.

[@NickGibbsmusic]

No, he isn’t.

[@trob1781]

He definitely made some good points

[@ahbadan]

"You can not equate the gay struggle with the black struggle." Well said

[@letsomethingshine]

"You can't compare apples and oranges..." except in that they are round, and plants, and sweet, and fruit... pun intended.

[@truthsupreme]

Since we are talking about the black folks that identify with the lgbt community, I'd like to say that a white person who is gay is of no concern of mine because we need to uplift ourselves from systemic racism, economic oppression, and political manipulation before we worry about how the white man feels. As Dr. Umar Johnson pointed out, we are often focused on the issues of other minorities, (and sometimes the majority), ahead of our own. But in regards to a black woman who identifies herself as being gay, I say that you are discriminated by the color of your skin first and your sexual orientation last. We shouldn't be fighting with each other over issues that concern a small percentage of our struggling minority. We should come together as a collective and free ourselves by any means necessary before we conversate about anything else. A white lesbian Jew is treated more justly by America and by society than a straight black man and yet the black community is fighting anti-semitism, sexism, and homophobia before issues that affect our own.

[@drichmond-perry-kelly-iver5955]

@@letsomethingshine , 🤣🤣🤣 🍎🍏🍎🍏🍊🍊🍊🍊🌿🌿🌿🌿😉

[@truthsupreme]

@King King warya

[@paullewis5851]

Very true

[@Ecrowder51]

As far as I know there are laws protecting the LGBT Community while The Black Community is a target of Law Enforcement.

[@jayeljh6638]

They got more rights protected under the law and a 8 your term with Obama than black people has got in 400 years and they still complain you can't even make a joke about them that's how powerful they are but black people can be talked about by everybody including the LGBT including their own black people including the rest of the world so what are they mad at

[@Moszan]

What? There is such thing as the Gay/Trans Panic Defense. They could literally lose their jobs, ostracized, if not outright killed if the GRSM came out as anything non straight and non cis.

[@prodbycin]

@@Moszan and I could walk into a job interview and not get said job to begin with, I also can not "come out" as a black man. im not saying you are wrong in your sentiment only that finding out someone is gay has to come out of their mouth. finding out someone is black comes from using your eyes.

[@Moszan]

@@prodbycin I'm talking about those who are already employed. Of course you CAN'T come out as black. Then again, explain white passing black Americans. There are those who choose not to come out. If anyone perceives any unwanted advances, a GRSM person can get assaulted, if not killed. This defense is used in three ways: self defense, insanity and provocation. In the end, the person's sexuality and/or gender identity is blamed - and excused - for the perpetrator's violent reactions.

[@prodbycin]

Z Moses I understand what you are saying and I agree with some of it. But 1.) white passing Americans during a time not long from now would choose not to come out as black from fear of retaliation against them AND their families. 2.) I am saying that society has made it “normal” to come out the closet, as if it is a prerequisite to being a certain sexuality. But I personally have never heard anyone come out as heterosexual, ever. I personally could care less if you are homosexual/pansexual/heterosexual etc. There is literally no need to discuss sexual orientation with anyone you are not interested in being in a sexual relationship with. Should you be viewed any different for doing so? no of course not, but exposing your sexuality to everyone has done nothing for anyone I have come in contact with. 3.) violence against anyone for anything they practice is wrong. So we agree there. Where we differ is that you say that people of different sexuality’s can be fired or assaulted for unwanted advances as if that is exclusive to non straight individuals. In corporate America people lose there jobs all the time due to unwanted advances. There are men who are assaulted because of unwanted advances on females. These are reasons many workplaces have policy in place that do not allow people to date in the workplace. To avoid these unwanted advances. In closing I would just like to say that we agree on many things (from my perspective at least.) we differ because my point was to say that before I can even open my mouth to state my sexuality I am perceived as a black man (replace this with any race and gender) first. Anything after that 1st impression is learned information. Information that can be held onto and not shared.

[@dennisyerger84]

So according to this feminist, the exact definition of hate speech is "speech that offends, threatens, insults groups based on race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, disability, or other traits." Notice no actual hate is required in that definition. Notice also that the intent of the speaker is not considered either. The only thing that matters is the feelings of the special group that is given protected status. "Hate speech" seems more like an attempt to control free speech.

[@MERLINnecrofan]

Finally someone speaking truth. Don't call me homophobic because I'm sure as hell not afraid of gay people.

[@samworth9310]

if you look up the definition it means you're intolerant - not afraid. k, the more you know.

[@haroonejaz22]

@@samworth9310 According to Meriem Wesbster, " exaggerated usually inexplicable and illogical fear of a particular object, class of objects, or situation", k, the more you know

[@samworth9310]

@@haroonejaz22 first of all that's the definition of PHOBIA. if you looks up HOMO-phobia, there's always a definition that goes with intolerance. Meriem Webster: "irrational fear of, aversion to, or *discrimination against homosexuality or gay people."* and NOBODY means "irrational fear" when they say homophobia - although you could argue that intolerance comes FROM fear. also did you know that Emma STONE is actually a person and not a fxcking MINERAL? k, the more you know.

[@mightyea]

@@samworth9310 correct, the point is that the phobia is being missed used in this case.

[@pandahuakbar5470]

@@samworth9310 Thank you! The evasiveness of the speakers' answer "I'm not afraid of gay people" is lost on his followers.

[@jdmathys1]

Respect to this man for giving this woman the patience she did not extend to him.

[@androsp9105]

Did we watch the same video? She was very patient and let him speak. Also he wasn't that respectful, he just said he was. At 8:54 he asks her a question and just talks over her answer.

[@xMiketheManx]

@@androsp9105 You're wrong...she was very rude to him. She cut him off several times and had an attitude too. He was very professional, and never disrespected her. Her tone of voice was also very impolite.

[@Terry884]

@@androsp9105 he is the host not her and he was not there to discuss feminism if she wants to discuss feminism she can invite him to a feminist platform but I guess she has no respect for the people's time she feels like what the people are talking about is not important so she decided to change the subject

[@bobbibolton5349]

@@androsp9105 she was very disrespectful!! He was TOO patient!! I would've had her ass removed!!

[@QuirkyTJones]

@@Terry884 right...he didn't have to oblige her at all... this is his show. And he even said they could have a private conversation later but she pushed the issue. On top of her and her gf definitely set him up bc he already knew who and what that woman was about.

[@BeatsbyZay]

I can NOT stand these women.

[@BeatsbyZay]

***** Lol honestly, I'd much rather deal with white feminists. They atleast get shit done. All these gay black feminist do is complain. They offer no real solutions.

[@BeatsbyZay]

*****​ lmao racist against who? Black feminist? I'm black lol. That's why I'm saying they are horrid. I have to be in the same spaces as these people. And yes white feminist do get shit done compared to their black feminist counterparts. 

[@kevinboone2178]

+mano a mano I'm a Black man who plays ball. Let's play: You speak the way White homophobes do. Whatever you speak you learned at the feet of White homophobes. Your comment is no different than the words and spirit we get from typical White homophobe breeders. Turnabout's fair-play, man, and beating you at your own game was easy. Is it hot up in here, or what?

[@turndown8290]

no one can

[@SavertonJr]

+BeatsbyZay Pro blacks in a nutshell lol

[@stanbymet.v.2428]

WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS THE GAY AND LESBIAN MOVEMENT IS NOT THE SAME AS THE BLACK MOVEMENT

[@YariSoul3604]

@A M How?

[@HollyG95]

It’s not but it’s also a good question to ask how can you be all about black equality while shaming black gays and women? It is hypocritical. Which is the american way but still...good question that he didn’t answer Imo

[@carloscarson4556]

@@HollyG95 Being gay is not apart of black culture. Homosexuality and White supremacy are linked

[@Car-qu2bc]

@@carloscarson4556 That “homosexuality and white supremacy” talking point is not only untrue, but always speaks to a level of homophobia from the person spewing it. You dodged hollfields question, so I’ll ask again. How can you be for black equality while simultaneously putting down black women and gay black people? This is peak hypocrisy and people need to understand that these issues can intersect

[@carloscarson4556]

@Nasyr H I’m ignorant for not wanting my people to be apart of racism?

[@skysharksingh]

Looking at this reminds me of Dave Chappell being correct about the LGBT movement not interested in helping the black movement.

[@paulmcfeeters5554]

LGBTXYZ123 and the rest are narcissists only interested in their own personal agenda not in helping anyone else. Them trying to hijack a civil rights issue is typical of their disgusting antics.

[@mrbeez8631]

Same as the BLM movement, not helping worth a damn....in fact making it worse. Leaders are getting arrested, founder buys a million dollar house in a white neighborhood.

[@teamtundra2619]

@@paulmcfeeters5554 no it is a civil rights issue

[@ItsMzPhoenix]

@@paulmcfeeters5554 What

[@qthetroll]

@@paulmcfeeters5554 all groups are narcissistic in a way. groups are formed against specific issues. generally one issue. why the fuck would LGBT be for black rights

[@whodinijonas6411]

you cant compare Gay struggle to black struggle

[@michaelbruno1330]

There is no black struggle it's called laziness

[@whypascal]

michael bruno stfu tf are you talking about

[@uknownlight]

@@michaelbruno1330 says you who is ignorant

[@michaelbruno1330]

@@uknownlight the dr. That's who

[@uknownlight]

@@michaelbruno1330 lol.12 year old

[@cambone1558]

She is the epitome of “Doesn’t listen, only talks...doesn’t think, only repeats”

[@redravin3562]

She literally listened the entire time, the dumbass up front was constantly interrupting her when she was speaking. I don’t understand how you can even remotely think this

[@superweeniehutjr.8019]

@@redravin3562 knowing who you side with, I have an idea of what you look like

[@tristanj4558]

@@redravin3562 listens yet doesn't understand

[@redravin3562]

@@superweeniehutjr.8019sure what do i look like? Amuse me.

[@priqito]

@@YaBoyKevJames 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@brendakite6611]

Even when her emotions took over and realized her argument was defeated, Umar still called her QUEEN! RESPECT!

[@brendakite6611]

@James BigBigBigBoss It is a choice, sorry not sorry! Satan has fooled you into believing that there are many paths to God but Jesus said one thing that clarifies that there is only one way. He said " I am the way, the truth and life and no man shall come unto the Father, but by me". You must be a believer of Jesus Christ. And if you are going to trust Jesus to save you, then you must know that He can and will deliver you. You need deliverance and you can not do that yourself. Surrender yourself unto Christ, REPENT and ask Him to come into your heart and He will save you, IF YOU WANT TO BE SAVED. There is a day coming when we all will stand before God, no man is perfect but we will stand before a perfect, righteous and Holy God and by His grace the righteous will SCARCELY make it in. Who shall be able to stand?

[@carsontyler3203]

@James BigBigBigBoss " You should be ashamed of your ignorant self. How dare you. I am not going to even argue." This is exactly what happened in the video. Emotions running rampant and when Umar broke it down, the woman realized she had no logical grounds left to stand on because it is all emotional. I can see why you don't want to argue with someone. You have your emotions running wild and you refuse to listen to reason. "How dare he, you or anyone be pro black but anti-gay at the same time. Ridiculous." So we ALL have to be pro black AND pro gay to appease people? You clearly didn't watch the video. Umar doesn't condone nor affiliate himself with the gay community but he DOES support the right for people to choose what they want and he even takes on LGBT clients. People can claim they were born gay or whatever they want, that's fine. But the claim that NO ONE chooses to be gay is false. You're entitled to your opinion but saying someone is "dangerous" without actually providing any solid and valid evidence as to why that might be is ignorant.

[@r.o1449]

@James BigBigBigBoss cry

[@TheGrassbaba]

@James BigBigBigBoss excatly, you don't care, you like to cry , you like to lable and roll around in logical fallacies when someone tries to have a dialogue, the thing is if you argument were valid you wouldn't resort to insults ,just shows what Dr said is completely true.

[@l3gacy_-nitro241]

How you saying satan has fooled you while simultaneously reading a white mans created religion that was used to enslave and dehumanize you.

[@samaxechuckfinley3593]

"You CanNot equate the gay struggle with the black struggle!" -Dr. Umar Johnson...

[@KevinsPortal]

Right? The gays actually have a struggle!

[@iam-drake]

​@@KevinsPortalwhen you're okay, then you can think of homosexuals

[@josephhage9377]

Damn, this was 6 years ago and still just as relevant

[@CB-rv2lj]

it will only become more as this narrative becomes pushed

[@kimberlymorris4609]

This will be relevant until... Just like the purpose behind the fights of all of our civil rights leaders are still relevant.

[@QuirkyTJones]

Even more now so than then and it's ridiculous that we are at this point.

[@ihavefallenandicantreachmy2113]

6 years ago. Is that when "Missouri" was invented?

[@kdorjah]

Word

[@Rhinosaurus1000]

Dr. Johnson shut that "know it all" feminist down.

[@SimeonB300]

They're not equal movements. The last time I checked it's not a sin to be black

[@mikehayes964]

Aren't we all sinners?

[@ysralytmann5590]

I had to download "THIS" video....because TRUTH and LOGIC, and an example of it, must be preserved. Shalom

[@SuprScrtClub]

Very well said. You can disagree with something and not hate it. On point.

[@FavJam]

Black Muslims have always been the brightest and the most powerful/influential for the black community. Dr umar, Malcolm X, Mohammed ali, Dave chappelle, kareem Abduljabbar, and many more. ✊️

[@davidsavelio6492]

Malcolm X was a Freemason and Mohammed and many others

[@VolatileHunter2]

Try being black, muslim (prays 5 times aday) and being gay. Bruhhhhhhhhhh God made my life beautiful but the struggle is real

[@redpillpxki786]

@@VolatileHunter2 you can’t be a Muslim and gay

[@KandahariHadithLover]

@@redpillpxki786 yes u can, that’s like saying u can’t steal and be Muslim, it’s a sin but u don’t get excommunicated, u just need to repent

[@kalelrehmani1733]

@@davidsavelio6492 hahhahahaha what??????

[@MinnesotaEverything]

So she's proud to be a black woman that doesn't love black men?!?! CONFUSED!!!! Smmfh

[@rexstevenson3239]

Angela Davis is a lesbian and fought for black men

[@mikikiki]

There are a lot of "proud" black men with non-black women.

[@rexstevenson3239]

***** not everything needs a man inside

[@anbillie]

what does loving black men have anything to do with it? You don't have to be in a sexual relationship with a black man to care about their lives. Or plenty of black men with white women need to be discredited.

[@rayenochi7729]

+Gennaro rossi nonono... don't throw offensive talk like that mate.

[@MissDynamaniak]

Offending someone is ‘hate speech’? If that’s true, that is insane.

[@middleamerica6489]

It’s not. It’s the alphabet definition. The legal dude initial is vaguely defined as speech that incites violence.

[@samanthak6122]

@@middleamerica6489 Anything that offends someone can insight violence. Like if I am ageist and say something against old people. All hell would break lose and it would be considered hate speech.

[@saintsone7877]

To these people anytime you disagree with them it is considered "hate speech". And if you refuse to speak with them to them it proves you "Hate them". Either way you are guilty of "hate". They are the perfect eternal victim.

[@reborn2j]

“LGBT doesn’t speak up against white supremacy because they are part of it.” You sure got that one right, kang…

[@a.o.3457]

You probably never experienced white hate in your life , you hate yourself, so you have to blame white people. Fuck you , you hate us so much stay the fuck away from us , you guys di you over there and we will do us over here. Problem ids you can’t , you can’t survive without us , you hate each other to the point you kill each other. I say fuck it we can’t get along let’s separate.

[@craigime]

@@a.o.3457 what are you even talking about?

[@yuwannakno1269]

@@a.o.3457 what??😳

[@vito7361]

@@yuwannakno1269 he is saying how everyone blames white people for their incompetence

[@Mostopinionatedmanofalltime]

I'm a member of LGBT. Let's Go Brandon Tribe!

[@sogotellit1103]

The struggle is not the same, that is for sure. For one the LGBT community is sexual preference, not skin color !! I came out of the womb black, and that is a fact.

[@michaelbruno1330]

And your ignorance will keep you stuck in a cylce of stupidity

[@michaelbruno1330]

@fasha77 in regards to?

[@esonon5210]

The struggle not being the same doesn't make it any less of a struggle. This isn't the oppression olympics.

[@froggie9550]

@marsjacobvolta cry about it

[@vic7777777777]

Gays and lesbians also came out of the womb gay

[@CMDUrbanTactics]

I'm a therapist and I agree 100% with Dr. Johnson...

[@Daniel-np1pk]

+TruckTurner_Jesus_Has_Risen where? so i can make sure never to go.

[@kevinboone2178]

+TruckTurner - What kind of "therapist" are you, Dr. Turner, and have you helped change a patient's sexuality? If so, how?

[@kevinboone2178]

+RuthlessD13 Hush, trouble-maker...lol.

[@OneBDennis]

Sexual trauma can play a role in an individuals perception of sexuality. However, I know of plenty of people who were molested by an adult during child hood and have grown up to be Heterosexuals. To make such a blanket statement as a mental health professional is careless. Also the act of having sex is a choice, the feelings that are felt toward the same sex are not a choice. It just happens, just as it does in a heterosexual context. You don’t wake up one morning saying I want to like a person with the same gender. The act of sex is a choice, but there are more components to sexuality than sex. If we are speaking on biblically inappropriate sexual behaviors....can the same energy be placed on those who engage in premarital sex, extra marital affairs, threesomes, orgies, and pornography? If your going to call out one...call out them all.

[@CMDUrbanTactics]

@@OneBDennis Dr Johnsom simply quoted tons of physiological studies compiled over decades. Facts are facts opinions are just that.

[@lord_woodleg]

I’m from Lithuania, white background….never herd that my family, friends, random people said something bad about black people or that they’re less intelligent or even stupid…it’s stupid even to think like that…we’re all human beings, we’re all special. Have a good day 💪💪👍

[@marylogan6711]

There’s been agendas in the US that spread those beliefs .. they even came up with biased ‘scientific studies to ‘prove’ it ..all those talking points have long been disproven.. but many still hold on to them

[@WILD__THINGS]

I like this dude's style. Doesn't get too worked up or attack somebody personally when they disagree with him. Just sit back and be confident that he knows the answer. Even tries to get her to keep her emotions out of it. I respect that.

[@siriusjones956]

I like his style, no cursing. He remained calm.

[@siriusjones956]

kobee No he answered that too.

[@SethAndrews111]

Sereena Jones Did you not watch the video you idiot? He's a fraud you dumbass. The school is NOT going to happen.

[@WILD__THINGS]

kobee Ok, this is the first video I have watched of him so I will look at the one you provided the link to.

[@jacob3484]

digitalcommons.pcom.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1200&context=digest what part of DR umar johnson is a fraud yall are too lazy to do any research but i am not page 6

[@ventithedrunk9506]

So if I get cancelled by the LGBT because my church doesn't allow gay marriage. Does that mean we can cancel the LGBT for not respecting the beliefs of my church?

[@xseedinlife4643]

That's an interesting question... I'm curious to see others responses to this. It could be a great discussion... 💯

[@robv5834]

Personally I’d say yes. It’s hard in public though. Like the baker who keeps getting in trouble for discriminating.

[@robv5834]

@Jan Dromerda literally all of our laws and rights are to protect minorities. Not people of color, but minority thought. The country was created by people of a different religion (minority). We don’t bend to the will of the masses here.

[@musashiedits8295]

Rob V tfym? America is a democracy established on the belief that majority opinion stands(generally).

[@robv5834]

@@musashiedits8295 no we always protect minority rights. It’s in every one of our laws. We have protected classes. Freedom of speech is to protect beliefs that are unpopular. Otherwise the majority would not allow that speech.

[@greygremlin1248]

A simple DISAGREEMENT is not hate speech. It's just a disagreement and people need to be OKAY with it again

[@BicycleFunk]

The best hate speech is subversive.

[@eli8908]

Facts

[@rhaynes4306]

You’re right. I disagree with miscegenation and I’m tired of people telling me that I’m being racist. I disagree with ending segregation, and I disagree that black people are unjustly killed by the police. Again, zero hate speech, zero racism, just simple “disagreements.” I’m being civil and you’re the one getting angry so that makes you the irrational SJW, not me.

[@greygremlin1248]

@@rhaynes4306 well put

[@jamesp4994]

@@greygremlin1248 Lol are you stupid? His point is literally that a "DISAGREEMENT" as you put it can be not "OKAY".

[@anotherstateofmind124]

I felt the response was well thought out, and articulated. The problem with most of the fringe political movements is they believe being LOUD and DISRUPTIVE is the only way to get across a point. It was clear that Dr. Johnson was ready to present a definitive and clear response without lowering his point of position to a level of raising his voice.

[@bgoodd]

The young lady is not and will not confuse the older generation with her pop culture notions and ideas and popular movements. She will look foolish. She picked the wrong room.

[@diegogeneral1217]

🤣🤣🤣🤡

[@hilalabbas2648]

But everybody was nice. Strange from leftistsm

[@letsomethingshine]

@@hilalabbas2648 "Learn from history" and all. They don't happen to be pissed off in this particular circumstance. Not that the hypocrite 2-dimensional and elitist "rightists" can do much better at controlling their emotions and outbursts. Or haven't you noticed?

[@hilalabbas2648]

@@letsomethingshine both are horrible. Usa needs moderate people.

[@MzMinnesnowtapop1]

She sounded like a damn fool 😂😂😂

[@Entrepenegro1]

This is what a perfect argument looks like. She got destroyed, respectfully of course. He even said "let's take emotionalism out of it" this guy is my hero!

[@davidb9779]

But he glosses over the fact that Black Lives Matter was founded by gay women

[@quentontarantino]

And that’s why it hasn’t gotten anywhere blm matter is a hashtag and cover up for their community

[@donnygv27]

he doesnt actually make any good arguments tho, he just says some nice-sounding one liners that have zero substance to them

[@saintsone7877]

@@davidb9779 Who became rich and bought many houses with the 90+million raised. And those gay women have had more men than most people have had breakfasts.

[@d2thezdeezee113]

She assumes to know what people will answer. She demands respect while attempting to undermine her fellow human being. She is arrogance and ignorance personified.

[@timeforamazingchest5271]

When Dr Johnson pulls out the DSM and she assumes she already knows how he will answer, it's because she isn't trying to have a conversation with an intelligent, individualized human being, but because she is attempting to attack what she sees as an opponent ideology speaking through the mouth of a man. People who do this sort of thing typically are in the thrall of an ideology or cult themselves and haven't realized it. You can see on her face how unbearably smug and sure of herself she is in a room full of people who disagree with her. She never started on 'maybe I'm wrong and he has a point', because she's already utterly convinced herself that she holds the 'right perspective' on things well before she even entered the room. The dismissive shaking of the head, rocking back and forth, and attempts to interrupt him are all psychological coping mechanisms. They are very similar to rocking a child back to sleep when it has been disturbed by something in the middle of the night. You see this a lot in people who feel psychologically threatened by ideas and perspectives out of their control.

[@shrodingerscat4191]

That is third wave feminism

[@josie_grossyy]

That’s modern day feminism. You can’t have a simple dialogue .

[@soutano11979]

Yeah the arrogance comes from all the people in that movement claiming they’re all queens and being obese is beautiful

[@HollyWoodSlackn1]

These people never win. One after the other just embarrassing themselves. I've never seen them win, yet they just keep on truckin. Lol it's amazing.

[@nathanglover9255]

I really appreciate you Dr. Umar for your commitment for the Black agenda with no apologies. ✌❤🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@OFFF861]

*You cannot equate the gay's struggles with the Black's struggles* BLM founders: *We'll just have to combine the two struggles and use one as a smokescreen for the other.*

[@fenrirswolh3]

Hit the nail RIGHT on the head!

[@jeandedy1]

Exactly 👍🏻👍🏻thats my point too

[@yogabbagabba2202]

Blm founder is white

[@lm8390]

@@yogabbagabba2202 jevvish*

[@missqt48]

EXACTLY! This is why one of the founders of that group is LGBT and living in a huge mansion in LA while the traditional black families who have suffered inequality haven’t received a penny. Hopefully people understand that the Alphabet Mafia people can still be rude, liars and racist beings!

[@Silke8608]

I love how he calls her "my Queen" the entire time! Respect

[@zion9146]

he always remains respectful

[@Andrew4Handel]

Charming behaviour from a homophobe.

[@ShadowVigilante]

@@Andrew4Handel you're an idiot

[@mikehayes964]

No its condescending

[@iamggpanda]

@@mikehayes964 just cant catch a break with you eh?

[@juanf666highboson5]

always take the emotions out of any argument, first

[@davidb9779]

BLM the movement that most black people follow was founded by gay women

[@aliciamason7758]

And Umar was emotional, condescending & dismissive in his reply. Deflecting & minimizing her comments as if she was a joke.

[@KidDynamite40]

@@davidb9779 that's why we need another movement because the gay agenda is different to the black one

[@davidb9779]

@@KidDynamite40 the biggest black movement was made by 2 lesbian women

[@davidb9779]

@@KidDynamite40 literally THE movement that started the george floyd protesta

[@toddmuhammad3827]

Debating a feminist is just the same as debating a Klansman.

[@josephineamawiafe9428]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@codyyoumans649]

Bit of a stretch

[@MrDapper214]

being gay is a choice being black is not!

[@johnberry2678]

You don't get to choose who you're attracted to

[@babyszaa]

Im black and I didnt fucking choose to be shit.

[@katrinamichlik9410]

But you do get to choose wether or not to act on said "attraction".

[@erzan]

I'm Black and Gay. I choose neither. Please stop spreading your bullshit.

[@erzan]

You ignore the point. The debate was whether being LGBT is something you choose. This is not a debate about having sex. lol.

[@realtalk4689]

Dr. Umar is correct, do not confuse the two struggles. You would not compare my right to race cars with someone else's right to be viewed as human..right? One is an activity consisting of a way to dress, demeanor and sexual preferences. The other is a unequal treatment for one ethnicity when compared to other parallel ethnicities. You are a particilar ethnicity before a particular gender, you are a specific gender before you have preferences. real talk.

[@donnygv27]

that's not an argument, and its especially not a good reasonn to refuse lgbt the fair treatment that we seek out. no one is trying to compare the struggles between the black nad lgbt communities besides people in this thread with hateful intent towards the lgbt people. its very dark and very hypocritical, and its really sad to see so many of my kinfolk falling into the same reactionary mindset that fuels the exact oppression we face

[@MrGravySauce1]

@@donnygv27 you can stop being gay. You can't stop being black.

[@caden3243]

@@MrGravySauce1 so you can stop being heterosexual?

[@C_itsNemo]

"You can't equate the black struggle to the gay struggle" thats the quote of the century damn!

[@HumBug_05]

No, the quote of the century is, "I am Iron Man." This one's in like 5th place.

[@blackguy1236]

@@HumBug_05 lmfao🤣

[@shayshay6030]

Great conversation! He has so much patience and is very intelligent. ✊🏾

[@diegogeneral1217]

When you decided to take on someone who is well drilled in their particular field you better be well equipped

[@mmastiff734]

Ong

[@JSVSXX]

It’s that simple

[@TheOlmonroe1]

Don't being a slingshot to a gun fight.

[@ebolufade7785]

Suited and booted

[@privateuser7]

Lmao this man is not "well drilled". He takes advantage of POC with poor lives by giving them an enemy to blame their life decisions on.

[@jordansernik]

I seriously enjoy watching opposing opinions. Need more of this - way healthier than just repressing all conversation

[@kinhtero6357]

That was what i was thinking

[@stephenkilgore9508]

Yeah I don't necessarily agree with either but the free exchange of opinions was refreshing.

[@willbrogan915]

So true man. We need more of this

[@picklewart5382]

The sheep who start throwing the words homophobia and racism around like pieces of candy are the ones who typically don't wanna talk and only talk over you or tune you out, because they know they sound dumb af. All emotion no logic.

[@niijigod3864]

@@picklewart5382 Exactly

[@amakadius75]

he broke her down. she looked like an idiot and did the normal trying to talk over you while you are trying to explain stuff

[@donnygv27]

that's literally what he spent the whole video doing tho. every time she started making a point he and the crowd interrupted her and on the rare occasion she got to finish a point, his responses were always completely irrelevant to the point she made

[@prodbycin]

@@donnygv27 please explain. it seems that his responses were spot on but I could be wrong. so please, explain

[@dakotatiger2009]

@@donnygv27 The complete opening question he let her get out without interrupting not a single time nor the crowd. She kept interrupting his answer doesn't matter if she was making a point doesn't matter if the crowd was interrupting her. He let her finish she should give him the same respect.

[@Jackson-mi3dr]

He was there to speak, not to let an audience member take over the show. She shouldn’t have been interrupting anyway, shoulda been a simple question and let him respond.

[@anthonywright7683]

Absolutely LOVE this dude, he says everything that I think and feel...REALEST DUDE OUT HERE, PRO BLACK BABY!

[@KevinsPortal]

You're only pro black babies?

[@daddylegend3381]

this guy is a legend , he is calm cool and collected , he knows his facts and he keeps his emotions in check✊ respect to this brother

[@tatriceflowers6318]

I agree with him 100%.

[@donezo116]

+Bad Man a bigot haha oook

[@ramelep]

Please not 100%... He has flaws

[@williampatrick5329]

You look like the kind of person who would

[@quentontarantino]

Being black isn’t gay

[@Andrew4Handel]

Because you are an ignorant moron

[@toucansam435]

The "TRUTH," Really Broke this Woman Pride 🎯🔥🔥🔥

[@TJBlack3.5]

I love seeing that happen

[@ayofaks]

Which truth?

[@jirehlozano6257]

Pride comes before the fall🙏

[@dgeneeknapp3168]

She seems to be under the impression that she's the only one in that room he'd want to talk with.

[@Vic_Von_Doom]

Respect to this gentleman. I'm a instant fan.

[@UndoEverything]

Lesson Learnt: LGBT is a movement to right to practice a certain behavior, the struggle for black folk is a struggle to be treated like a human being. there he said it and it couldn't be better than that.

[@THEMEISTER004]

Gay people are killed in many nations, simply because of who they are

[@albertogutierrez9734]

@@THEMEISTER004 Who they are or what they do?

[@billaak417]

@@THEMEISTER004 which nation?

[@albertogutierrez9734]

@@avavavavaz You are literally communicating with just words. By your logic you are just as ignorant.I am interested that you folks have the same rights as me, just don't infringe your behaviours on me.

[@worst-nightmare]

@@THEMEISTER004 ya and

[@PraiseAccordingTo]

This man is a beast, pulling down and defeating emotions with strong, valid and true points.

[@daababy4205]

except the part where he said the majority of gay people were molested. that's completely wrong, and not backed by any data

[@daababy4205]

@@berniesandersjr5123 can you link me the source or give me the name

[@donaldlayton437]

@@daababy4205 he also said that 95% of the gay/lesbian clients he had as a psychologist were abused as children. He didn't say ALL of them.

[@spicerc1244]

So “talking white” helps deliver stronger arguments?

[@Aaron_leonard]

@@daababy4205 He was talking about in his own private practice .

[@tomimartin6406]

"YOU CANNOT EQUATE THE GAY STRUGGLE WITH THE BLACK STRUGGLE!" ..end game.

[@spaceplateau]

You realize black gay people exist?

[@hr8097]

Amen McMahon Why you asking him?

[@KarateWrestler205]

Big facts I had a gay white woman tell me she understood my pain as a black man because she’s gay like tf outta here you ain’t never been pulled out your car and beaten with a nightstick while sitting in a parking lot waiting for your date to pull up like I have just because you “fit” the description

[@FatalCorleone07]

@I c Niggas love missing the point

[@twilightisracist]

@Djinn Djinnie a black person cant “be in the closet” about their blackness. when a gay person is pulled over the cop can’t obviously see their gay. A gay person can’t be systemically oppressed for their skin color. You lead off with something black people can’t relate in response to saying lgbt struggle can’t equate as lf that makes it more of a struggle then, you go into this bs saying there’s much in common like the struggle is equal. you either believe those points making the struggle seem harder or dont.

[@canwetalk1790]

If there ever a moment to drop the mic after wowing an audience this was it. That was a legalized murder

[@CrazyTuBe141]

she has guts ngl, but the doctor is a learned man

[@corlissabreaux3702]

"Stop taking time away from the Black agenda, to feed other people's agenda."- Dr Umar. That LGBT sister's sole purpose was to divide and confuse AKA a 13 minute distraction. She asked "questions", interrupted, and changed the focus of that event. Dr Umar gave her 12 minutes more than she deserved!!

[@gordonallen7940]

Thank you Dr U. J. for correcting this woman and educating her she's very emotionally confused. Please keep up the good work.

[@linalanes538]

emotionally confused because she doesn't conform to your idea of normalcy and has double the oppression that you do? oh ok.

[@gordonallen7940]

+Lina Lanes her only oppression is being back! Gays and lesbians are well above the average person and everything is at their fingertips, these people are well organised, do not compare them to the black struggle because theirs no comparison!

[@carlawinchester6980]

I really appreciated this video. Thank you for uploading.

[@DionSpleon]

He had some good points , you gotta keep emotions out of this when it comes to his facts and vise versa

[@spencerdickson9693]

I wish we did that when we talked about Racism too... "Take the emotionalism out of it"... then we talk about race and someone is screaming "White Priveledge" in my face

[@lukereti4499]

yeah true but she had none

[@cannapurp2833]

@@lukereti4499 None? You obviously weren't listening

[@bartvy]

@@cannapurp2833 Mister Dickson has a point if we talking facts. She wasnt emotional, she GOT emotional. She started very respecfully and reserved. Only reason why started that the way he did is to play the crowd and divert. Worked like a charm. This man is a great speaker, but he's not as factual as he claims to be. the DSM doesnt read like a bible.. This man is taking some enormous litberties in his claims.

[@cannapurp2833]

@@bartvy Yeah I agree. He'll use big budget words to say not much of anything in truth

[@lctortillas]

Mexican American here and I have to say WOW !! 1968,1972,1974 Thank you for opening my eyes to these events I knew about them but I did not sequence them that way. It makes sense what the White Liberals have done to the Black Community.

[@locgoblin3079]

The white liberal is the most racist people there is

[@vic7777777777]

This is for the people that think god made only male and female, Everybody knows it say in the bible God made male and female, Now open your bibles to Matthew 19:12 IT speaks about a enunch, eunuchs are hermaphrodites and are born that way WHICH MEANS: GOD MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE…AND EUNUCH but the God made them eunuch part was removed from that part of the bible and this was done for politics reason (BIG MONEY)

[@miriams3769]

@@vic7777777777 GOD DID BOO

[@vic7777777777]

@@miriams3769 god did what?

[@patrickp8302]

so you gonna forget the DDT and Chlorox showers before and after coming into the US on temporary VISA that they gave our migrant farming cousins and ancestors to feed a country that ain't ours because they too lazy to do the shot themselves...and think our struggle is just a product of white liberals. disgraceful man, there's so much history you REALLY do need your eyes opened for real

[@RoyaleWitCheese04]

the problem with people in general is that they don't want to view anything outside their standpoint. look at the way she just sat and shook her head the entire time he was speaking. smh...

[@jkobadote1165]

I love how that women sitting in front of her kept side eyeing her

[@suavebola06]

Heavy video brother!!! Thanks for being an unapologetic black!!!

[@xseedinlife4643]

Thank you for the support

[@timothysmith35]

And stop blaming other races for your failures in your life

[@poshmoguls9887]

Emotion vs Logic... Though emotion will not listen, Logic always prevails.

[@reginaldking9906]

Of course If you lose logic, you lose everything.

[@manis8569]

Lol. Science supports that gay people have different genetic composition than straight people. So, if you don’t believe in LGBT rights, you are the one being emotional.

[@kanyewests6676]

@@manis8569 show me this evidence

[@MixManiac120]

Emotion vs Logic ...Men vs Women

[@deshaunjarvis4326]

Always

[@jrosasal2879]

I love how Umar can stay calm, collective, & focused when confronted by people who wanna convince him, that he is wrong on his positions.

[@davidroseitg]

All repressed people deserve to be freed from that repression.

[@ronduece9066]

i feel what she is trying to say. He gave her plenty of opportunity for her to clearly prove her point and she blew it.

[@ronduece9066]

*****​ I don't disagree with most of what you say. Most black ppl that I know don't wanna fit into the norm. Note the hairstyles, the slang, etc. The norm is known to copy black culture. We create something cool then it gets copied, stolen and regurgitated as if we didn't create it. Our identity continues to get stolen constantly and assimilated and we get accused of trying to fit in.  The lies that we believe are the lies that will doom us

[@ronduece9066]

***** true. I just point out the superficial bc they are glaring and undeniable. Things like hairstyle, body features and such are superficial, but it doesn't mean that they aren't relevant examples. Patent and invention stealing, things that directly signify a level of intelligence that is not commonly attributed to us aren't highlighted in history nor current events and contribute to the mentality and stigma that is shared by others as well as is regarding us. It's far far deeper than a mere conversation or clip on KZbin

[@MexicanAmericanPhilippines]

You can tell she was fed the mainstream talking points

[@carbonintellectuals8346]

rigged ref 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Madrrrrrrrrrrr]

She is as dumb as they come.

[@Madrrrrrrrrrrr]

@dafhsdo she presents opinions as facts.

[@21demario]

She too emotional that’s why she lost the debate

[@collectiveconscious2324]

She won the debate though, just because he spoke louder and spoke over her when she tried to speak doesn’t mean he won, lmao it’s a clear indication that he lost.

[@gggfightklub8449]

I agree with many of her positions I just don’t think shes a strong enough debater.

[@purplenemo77]

I mean umar also used a lot more facts and logic than she did and I’m not saying she’s dumb, but this is his job

[@denisjohnson8198]

@@collectiveconscious2324 the fact that you could watch that entire clip. . . (where there was, at least, 4 different moments of Umar trying to get her to shut up so that he could address specifically what she asked) . . .& you come back with “🥴hE sPoKe LoUdEr AnD sPoKe OvEr Her. . .A cLeAr InDiCaTiOn ThAt He LoSt🥴” is simply astounding. #GottaBeAFeminist😅

[@denisjohnson8198]

@@gggfightklub8449🤨what were these ‘many. . .positions’ of hers that you agree with?

[@RealCoachMustafa]

She tried so hard to give props to the BLM founders. Those women played her. She's probably in denial, to this day, that those women played her. Took her donation money and ran.

[@cocochanel6903]

Lawd this woman is giving me headache. Let the man talk and then you can respond. SmH

[@Zenguy89]

He should follow that too. He kept interrupting her also🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Andrew4Handel]

She can only be giving you a headache because you are an ignorant bigot.

[@smsofficial4809]

@fasha77 I agree with you

[@johndesmond9403]

"You cannot equate the gay struggle with the black struggle." Truer words were never spoken!

[@KevinsPortal]

Right? The gays actually struggle!

[@naes8258]

@@KevinsPortal they don’t.

[@KevinsPortal]

@@naes8258 are you saying blacks do? Free college tuition, get out of jail cards. Disproportionally affected they say, not one bit. Actually Disproportionally considered.

[@naes8258]

@@KevinsPortal I don’t see gays being whipped at borders, being graped in slums by foreign army men, kept in economic crisis or being shot on the street for being a shade too dark

[@KevinsPortal]

@@naes8258 all incorrect. 1. Sexual assault happens to every one, not just gays. 2. Gays like men touching them. 3. Gay or black, people seem to forget corruption of power and authority. Abuse comes with it and it's shared with everyone not just some. When you're ego gets so high that you took you are better than people or have a position to take advantage of. The facts don't support your theory that blacks or gays are unfairly targeted for anything. If a gay guy is shot or a black man stabbed but the same happens to non black and non gay humans, there is no disproportionate discrimination. Facts to this day do not support not a single bad claim happening EXCLUSIVELY more to a type of person. I. E. Blacks being murdered by blacks not Whites, black cops serving black neighborhoods. Evidence shows that Whites are killed at least 4 more and that the majority of black deaths are at the hands of other blacks. Don't let the "fear network" (news) over hype the sensation of victim mentality.

[@clintonmorgan5627]

she learned a very valuable lesson today whether she wants to admit it or not. if you are going to debate a man of Johnson's intellectual stature, you better come correct, lol.

[@donnygv27]

"intellectual stature" the dude can barely form a genuine argument. half of what he said were non sequiturs and the only reason he seemed to win the debate is because he let the crowd interrupt her and then came in talking really fast with very long response, making rebuttals of his jumbled rants nearly impossible

[@dreamtobeapolyglot8444]

First time hearing this doctor and not only did I learn alot I love how calm he was even after the lady mis framed his words.

[@underhtaylor7359]

Why do people compare the gay struggle and the black struggle..there is no comparison..it's disrespectful

[@jessecox8486]

How so?

[@mikkiminach9539]

There’s no comparison nor should there be. They both have individual struggles in their communities but guess what. The woman speaking was lesbian and black. She experiences struggles from being black AND gay

[@jhaenellegray1376]

They’re within the same racial community. Surely it’s valid

[@AlatOnDemand]

Forreal

[@thommygunn19]

Haha damn so Just keep adding labels! So being a black trans gay woman is the end Boss of LIFE opresion? Haha where does it end man ffs

[@DelonThompson]

I'm not a fan of the Doctor, however he is 100 on this. You can't combine the two. One is existence the other is behavior.

[@DelonThompson]

@Kimmminem West not trying to be argumentative , but you can hate me all day. It's only a problem if you act on that hate. I'm not a fan of the turm heat is heat. I personally could care less who hates me.

[@bRenegadez]

@Kimmminem West Are you really trying to compare the hate black people get for being born black to the hate people get for being gay? Lmao just stop

[@Jrez]

They're both existence. They both get beat and lynched, nobody is saying they're equal, but it's foolish to say they are nothing alike.

[@miramirror2383]

Yes but just because struggles differ from each other, that doesn't mean one deserves more attention, its ok to say that different struggles differ but it is not ok to say that one is more deserving than the others. If all minorities worked together instead of putting each other down, we would be far more advanced.

[@David.lovesU]

@Kimmminem West one is forced acceptance of immoral sexual behavior The other is a black man simply being treated the same as a white man. You can't say their the same

[@camcane1]

This video randomly popped up in my recommended . It's funny how if u sort the comments by "Top" ,everyone agrees with Dr.Umar from a few years ago,but if u sort it by "New" ,there's mixed opinions that actually oppose Dr.Umar. It's like the comments actually reflect a culture shift .

[@mmastiff734]

Shows how people got more brainwashed over the years

[@thecuriousgamingwarlock5026]

Snowflakes multiplying

[@tomino868]

Or newer comments with opposing views didn't get deleted yet

[@escarlit]

@@tomino868 if they weren't deleted, they would be available. i don't understand your comment.

[@ukculture9240]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 thats a low check the comments from just a week ago everyone still agree with dr umah

[@bunnygray4513]

I love how he hit her with facts while still being respectful.

[@WealthyThomas]

The right to marry vs the right to be.

[@thelastdracolich1237]

Someone please tell her to stand in front of a mirror and see what sex she is shes confused about it.

[@snoopzebra4234]

What? So the fight for interracial marriage is not something that was fought for by black civil rights leaders for decades?

[@twoozyuzi2215]

@@snoopzebra4234 guess that don't matter since it's behavior lol

[@themannyzaur]

The lady in front her like "girl won't you sit your ass down?"

[@Tallman89]

Sit herself down and keep herself quite lol

[@Blacksugar259]

I saw that 🤣😂

[@Jojodancer20100]

Yea, she need to take several seats. She just wrong

[@natsmith23ns]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@sameyeam5277]

When he ask her where was lgtb when mike brown got killed. The chic in front looks back like what you got to say bout that.

[@goldenweather]

What a brilliant response!

[@MidgetMalone]

Years later I still enjoy this video of this man. Just drops it down.