Dragon Ball Daima Trailer 2: Character Design and Animation Breakdown

[@solidsolo9258]

I was really happy to see more movement in Goku’s hair while fighting.

[@orbboom6119]

Lego hair gone yayyy

[@jasonone8726]

​@orbboom6119 It's been gone since they got rid of Yamamuro.

[@OrRaino]

@@jasonone8726 thank god, I think they are giving a small memorial to the artstyle to Yamamuro because of his long career with DB but I hope even that goes away, because holy hell the hair back then was made with super glue, I know how hard it is to animate, and imagining to highlight every single frame with flowing hair is just nightmare

[@cmuney101]

But saiyans hair doesn’t move all that much though. That’s the lore. Look at trunks hair it moves much differently

[@crestofhonor2349]

Man Daima is stacking up to be incredible in terms of animation. I'd love to see you make a video on your favorite animation cuts from each dragon ball series, not counting the movies.

[@vonigner]

Heck yeah new Forgotten Relics! I'm SO glad about the blur and the colors, they look soooo sleek and good. I just wish the hair had less boxy highlights, but it at the very least moves!! flowy hair my beloved. Eguchi has been super active on twitter lately, it's time to go ask him some questions about everything OwO

[@Yonkojah]

Rip Toriyama 😔😔

[@MiltonGagliardi]

Now I found out that Dragon Ball fans not only can't read, but they can't watch either. Great analysis as always, dude. It's always nice to see your videos and find some new appreciation to something I already love.

[@luisfernan-s7731]

It all began with DBS super hero 😭

[@miirzys]

I missed these breakdowns. I remember rewatching all the breakdowns before Broly came out. It was so hype!!

[@EKsUrbanTracks]

You are very thorough. Your knowledge of Toriyama's complete works is kinda crazy. For you to find either a clip or a picture of every point, reference or comparison you make is really impressive. It helps casual anime and animation enjoyers like myself understand with the correct context. Your own appreciation shows and it's contagious. I didn't know this show was announced, my nostalgia for chibi-Goku will probably make me watch it thanks to you. Can't wait to see the other main characters interact in their child forms.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Thanks a lot man! Toriyama's my favourite artist and a big inspiration so I've obsessively dug for as much of his art as i can find online haha. And it's especially fun to share the niche stuff with other fans :)

[@EKsUrbanTracks]

@@forgottenrelics1197 I know that urge to share! KZbin is full of us! Keep it up. 😀

[@Gaming_Hub_UK]

One thing I like and am looking forward to is world-building. The plate fight scene reminds me of Jackie Chan's fighting style in his movies, where he uses everything around him while being acrobatic.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

ayee it kinda does, didnt think of that!

[@Gaming_Hub_UK]

@@forgottenrelics1197 Tori is going ALL IN

[@pikachuspartan1868]

Him and Tori were IRL pals back in the day.

[@Gaming_Hub_UK]

@@pikachuspartan1868 yup ik I read it on Derek Padula's blog 😁

[@jowaynejdfcornwall1766]

Animation does look pretty good I'm ready to watch this

[@smellytooth699]

Finally! Some dragon ball daima appreciation!

[@balrogdemorgoth4741]

It look so good, I have no idea why some people see that and complain.

[@jasonone8726]

They don't like the idea of everyone becoming kids again.

[@balrogdemorgoth4741]

@@jasonone8726 We literally never had all the characters becoming kids again before.

[@jasonone8726]

@balrogdemorgoth4741 Again, as in, turned back into kids. Plus, that's what people hated the most about GT.

[@fat-gotenks]

I loved your highlights of some of the great choreography in Z and Super

[@TevyaSmolka]

i am so happy for dragon ball daima it looks really awesome

[@anthonymuc]

I have been waiting for this, I knew it was coming😁😁😁🙌

[@zekken8227]

Great hope to see episode breakdowns like this:)

[@forgottenrelics1197]

for sure :)

[@OXhuls]

I am so freaking excited for this. Finally something that my brain can understand. No faster that lightyears, not universe busters. Just fun adventures with goku and friends

[@cemeteryhill]

Bro these are the kinds of breakdowns we desperately in the community. From this Animation nerd, Thank You!

[@forgottenrelics1197]

thanks man 👍

[@savaget2058]

There are several winged characters in the ToP, maybe not dragon wings but wings nonetheless.

[@cateatingducks]

Appreciate this!

[@HowdyJ.Marston]

The show's gonna be a spectacle

[@fat-gotenks]

Thanks for another great video!

[@forgottenrelics1197]

thank you!!

[@bentodraws5890]

Been waiting for this 😏

[@jesseharp6987]

Love this!

[@forgottenrelics1197]

thanks jesse!

[@hirensuva56]

1:20 what is this?

[@alexander1055]

Modi

[@hirensuva56]

@@alexander1055 as Indian i know, but how he made this big mistake

[@forgottenrelics1197]

its some thumbnail made by a Indian youtuber - The Mystica Land -instagram.com/p/CzzULaxvmTn/

[@sirducksworthythe3rd842]

I always found the blurr took away from it in oast, and still do

[@wormHD]

Nice one bro

[@sonnywoods6846]

Dabura Used Swords and spears in his fight with Gohan during the Buul arch. So we did see someone use weapons in DBZ

[@forgottenrelics1197]

ahh yeah forgot about that! i kinda more so meant tho combat were both opponents wield weapons

[@jasonone8726]

​@forgottenrelics1197 Don't forget, more recently in the Granolah arc with Gas, but yeah, it's rare.

[@sonnywoods6846]

@@forgottenrelics1197 oh ok

[@joshuatokosi]

Nice thumbnail

[@EvilNinja182]

Looking back at Drum’s design I will say that I miss some of toriyama’s older skin and texture work. He was so good and weaving monster designs with unique surfaces. Like frieza’s skin, piccolo’s purple biceps and plant arms, any reptiles and all of cell. I miss some of that but otherwise the designs are looking good

[@Cali9939]

when we get a dbz flash back on daima do you think yuya takahashi might animate some scenes on the flash back?

[@forgottenrelics1197]

It really just depends on the staff list for that particular ep. Although going of the first trailer Chikashi Kubota seems to have already animated a fair few Z flashbacks

[@InueShizaki]

​@@forgottenrelics1197I think that from now on most of the flashbacks and content involving the og or z era will be in the hands of Kubota (I still want him doing animation here and there, like that beautiful sequence in the Broly movie)

[@Cali9939]

@@forgottenrelics1197 thanks for responding

[@forgottenrelics1197]

@@Cali9939 all g man :)

[@jeremiahbennett3004]

This series looks really fun, but i can already see complaints from power scalers that they "nerfed" goku because he can no longer blow up 10 universes with his pinky or something.

[@jasonone8726]

But then they'll complain when he's too op, just ignore them.

[@Lagia7]

Only thing that pisses me off is the glossy hair highlights. So unnecessary and annoying , otherwise really excited for Daima. Super happy to see the Nyoibo in action again

[@derock4art608]

I agree. I think it is unnecessary detail that adds to the work of the animation pipeline and unfortunately, doesn't look very good. Less is more sometimes, and Dragon Ball's unique style is better with less, especially in the hair. I know it is accurate to manga chapter illustrations but it wasn't established in the manga itself and it was inconsistent as a detail even on those illustrations. Plus, the anime never established that look either. It is so weird to have it, even more so when it is trying to market a style that harkens back to a bygone time and feel more classic....

[@jasonone8726]

​@derock4art608 The funny thing is that the highlights weren't even in Toriyama's Daima Goku design.

[@Y-two-K]

I don’t find it as egregious as Super at least

[@derock4art608]

@@Y-two-K fair but it is a bad choice. Perhaps people are less critical of it due to the designer not being Yamamuro or the fact that it is fan favourite Nakatsuru. I'm not really sure. I do think it makes them look like dolls and perhaps done on purpose so they can sell more merch. Regardless, I don't really get it since it was never really an established trait in the main series...

[@specialnewb9821]

I thought Gas used his weapons pretty well. But it would be weird to see the others using one. I guess except Yamcha? Anyhow I've watching DB lately so this throwback style really taking me back. I will say flying choreography is just in general not as good compared to ground but that applies to all eras of the franchise. Not just super.

[@El_Mince]

You know what would be pretty sick? If Masaki Sato was on the project as a supervisor or chief supervisor. From what I can tell, though he himself doesn’t animate these days, he still works in supervisory roles. He did so on Record of Ragnarok and even the 2020 Digimon movie, which Nakatsuru was also the character designer of. I know it probably won’t happen, but one can dream.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see him make at least a guest appearance, he was invited on with Broly and considering this series is for the franchises 40th anniversary, it would be vey fitting. He's also good friends with Nakatsuru and Kubota as well and considering there involvement, I could definitely see Kubota inviting him on. I honestly can't see him being a regular, but one can hope haha

[@El_Mince]

@@forgottenrelics1197Eguchi being there would also be peak. From what I’ve seen he isn’t in the best of shape as of recent, but he was fx supervisor on Superhero so who knows.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

@@El_Mince Totally forgot he was on Superhero and yeah I'm unsure if he's actually working at all rn due to his health problems. Sato is defs the more likely one out of the two but it would be cool to see eguchi back!

[@astrailiaous_Sempticreed]

Looks lit, please tell thid isnt just a mobie but a series in the making? Dbz 5.0 will be lit if true.

[@Fahel14]

Yes it is a new anime series set to air in fall 2024

[@salvatoreocello]

Let’s gooooo

[@LucidPhoton]

Ayo relics umm... What's the source for the pic at 0:03? Just curious lol hahhahahaahabahabah. Anywaysssss. Cool video. Love these. The analysis vids help me with my own art

[@rukminikannan9779]

Can you please do why Toshiyuki kan'no is a legend? Or why OPM season 2 looked so poor?

[@forgottenrelics1197]

i already did a video on OPM s2 called "Why was One-Punch Man's Season 2's Animation so Mediocre?" -kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXXRgXd3hpKHhbs

[@rukminikannan9779]

@@forgottenrelics1197 Oh well didn't notice thank you! wait but it's private why?

[@devinsauls9137]

Man, I need to practice coloring again so my artwork can somewhat look like Dragon Ball Daima

[@yungblade7]

If the story and choragraphy is good it could potentially be up there with the greatness of Z.

[@Matiasfv]

I wish Goku didn't have the glossy hair, it just looks bad and ruins his look in animation being pitch black like in the original to the end of Z anime or the broly movie is the way to go. In Daima his hair looks like plastic again.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

yeah, nakatsuru really likes highlights in hair, even toriyama's original designs for daima didnt have it

[@ALIKIN12345]

Exactly . That's the only thing that keeps getting to me it makes the hair look even more stiff

[@Ani-f4i]

Right on point

[@Sinovexx_TM]

The goku rotation at the beginning is kinda broken, he isn’t even touching the window, i hope it’s fixed by the time it airs

[@rukminikannan9779]

1:22 Even as an Indian this is a wierd, Forgotten Relics why this is here 😂? also I love Nakatsurus designs so far.. but what I don't like is the hair,it looks static and while there is a bit more movement to the hair in some shots, but I still like the flowy and more fluffy look to hair more, and paired with highlights it kinda looks like a toy and a bit Unnatural!

[@forgottenrelics1197]

it was made by an Indian youtuber -instagram.com/p/CzzULaxvmTn/ thought it looked goofy and yeah the highlights are unnecessary but the fact it actually moves somewhat counterweights the stiffness

[@stanleech666]

1:58 Toriyama most likely didn't make him but dude reminds me of Demigra in DBXV1. 3:55 that's why i liked the way Gas fought in the Granolah Saga.

[@JD_ash]

I didnt even know there was a second db diama trailer, thanks for informing me. This i why im physicaly and sexualy attracted to forgotten relics

[@forgottenrelics1197]

[@Rationalific]

I had zero interest when the first Daima trailer came out. This does kind of look good, probably because there is actual fighting, and instead of chibi everyone, it's kid Goku (whom we're more familiar with and can accept better than kid Whis or kid Vegeta or whatever). I'm still not interested enough to watch this yet, as there are so many great anime series out there that just focusing on the ghost of a nostalgic show from my childhood doesn't seem worth it. However, this does leave a much better impression, at least. To be honest, I also wouldn't be honest in the Super anime continuing, if it followed the manga, which I also have no interest in. I now hate new transformations and think that they have sullied all cool transformations by one-upping them just a few episodes later, either with a new transformation, or with an enemy that puts that new cool transformation to shame. Also, the power levels are way too high. Even at the beginning of Z, characters could one-shot entire planets. By the end of it, or in Super, extra power doesn't even really matter at all. That may be why they needed to bring the series "back to earth", so to speak, with power levels, where a pole or cymbals hit against someone's face actually hurt. What I really would have wanted to see was a well-animated look into the time right before Dragon Ball Z...so like shortly before Gohan was born, when Goku wasn't super-powered, but was still a young adult (not the kid version). I think that would have made for an interesting story. But again, the animation would really have to have matched that point in late Dragon Ball and extremely early Z to catch that feeling.

[@KaloyanKasabov]

The only nit-pick anf it's so small that there needs to be a word for nit-pick, but even tinier, but I wish goku's hair was pure black, as i think I think it looks almkst as plasticy as in super

[@supersubatomicsonicgenerat4688]

I already know the series is not gonna have a great story but it’s good to see that the visuals are still very high-quality as well as still keeping there classic Kanada action and animation style

[@GalekC]

backyardigans for real this time (old meme theorizing what all the universes' gods of destruction would look like)

[@mechajay3358]

The more you learn about Daima, the more interesting this web anime sounds. They pulling all the stops with its production.

[@lesterwilliamsjr649]

I feel like this should just be a video game.

[@t.b.g.animation6185]

Love the simple designs ,it makes action feel smooth .BTW i am an animator and i love ur breakdowns, thanksvto you, i've learned a lot about animations ...please if anyone reads this to take a look at m'y DragonBall animations

[@halocake117]

This video is awesome to watch high. Source: I'm high

[@MazingerDestro]

Can't say any of the 2 trailers hyped me. They need to bait us. Looking at kid goku acting like a kid with sakuga is unimpressive

[@mznxbcv12345]

Why no video on Goku Black design ? His arc is the best of DB.

[@antman...7325]

I Saw PM Modi in 2070😂 What the 🤣🤣

[@forgottenrelics1197]

yeah some guy made a video on it 💀 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYKch2Vva5iNfa8

[@Cay9z]

Looks just like more shitty plastic and shiny super animation except this time its less stiff. They should've just stuck to Dbs Broly art style which was the peak of modern DBS animation we got

[@forgottenrelics1197]

the hair highlights are the only thing that resembles super lol

[@Thalissothek]

eu não gosto das pessoas que falam que esse novo anime irá ser ruim, ele até o momento parece o máximo do que o toriyama começou em dragon ball. Sim seria incrível DRAGON BALL SUPER 2 mas também dizer que isso é ruim e bem ridículo.

[@FrancisL4D]

Laima🗿

[@S3RVANTofCHI3F]

Animation looks fantastic. But Diema just looks so boring to me

[@jmanners]

At least Goku acting like a complete dumbass will make sense this time...

[@kaioken654]

I miss cel animation

[@jasonone8726]

Get over it. 😂

[@kaioken654]

@@jasonone8726 imperfection & grit is king

[@jasonone8726]

@@kaioken654 You know you're not getting it.

[@kaioken654]

@@jasonone8726 obviously 🤦‍♂️

[@TheTyroofToriyama]

Oh mahh god bruh! What duh fuhh man!!

[@tino9117]

Tbh I think the issue is less that DBS has to rely on repeated clashes for some fights, and instead that DBS's clashes are the most unappealing looking ones out of all of 3 shows, I guess not counting GT, and ye even then the clashes look better as the show goes on sorta

[@nighter7881]

Dragon ball daima is for furries 💀

[@forgottenrelics1197]

why's that?

[@nighter7881]

lol idk 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Kinta02]

still looks like absolute dirt

[@forgottenrelics1197]

[@sussussy255]

daima looks like a skip to me

[@neotheone97]

Why

[@doggerlander]

Have you read OG DB?

[@sussussy255]

@@doggerlander yeh but another serious where every thing is just about goku idk man it’s just the same thing to me like every db show is almost the same

[@jasonone8726]

​@sussussy255 DB isn't only about Goku. 😂

[@sussussy255]

@@jasonone8726 yeh i bet it’s not about all other characters getting their ass kicked then goku appears and achieves a new form or wat ever then beats him

[@misterio337]

it looks like shite,gt better

[@forgottenrelics1197]

nah

[@darkfield1952]

GT doesn't have a single good fight.