Dragon Ball Z Abridged did it BETTER?

[@TotallyNotMark]

What are your favourite changes that have been made to the series by DBZA?

[@nightwalker174]

Totally Not Mark *All of them*

[@anish3720]

Totally Not Mark episode 1-194

[@anish3720]

Totally Not Mark movie 1-8

[@nightwalker174]

Totally Not Mark *It's fun when Super referenced the Abridged. They referenced Popo with the whole "banned thing" with Vegeta and the HTC. They even zoomed in on the eyes. They referenced Ghost Nappa. And having Kami and Nail talk to Piccolo during the ToP is a stretch, but still.*

[@metal42]

Mr popo's character.

[@glassystudio]

A17: lets change..lets forget killing people.. A18: Yea.. A17: forget killing son goku.. A16: LETS NOT GET CRAZY

[@nickw7452]

Trunks: You mean cyborgs

[@elmeralvarado1236]

16: I ve learned to love this planet from its birds, to it's people, to its birds.

[@DefyantFoxV2]

@@elmeralvarado1236 Bro Bot!

[@makinbacon8725]

You incorrectly quoted the line

[@makinbacon8725]

Your punishment is catapult

[@robinthrush9672]

One of the not-funny parts, but I really like when Vegeta insults Future Trunks and Piccolo looks down at Gohan and says, "Gohan, you're a good kid." So simple, but so meaningful.

[@Daniel_3322]

Well I think this scene is very funny because it's just so random but also makes sense (also I just find it funny that piccolo said this line)

[@conservat1vepatr1ot]

Dani Erdman Random? Piccolo sees the destructive nature of a father demeaning [edit]*his son* and chooses to use that moment to make a point of being kind to Gohan as his, despite how hard, father figure. You can be a hard father, without being a fuck and this moment really illustrates that distinction.

[@sethgaston8347]

If you watch it again you’ll see the joke was a call back. They mention how Yamcha kills himself in the future, and goku reassures him that he’s not alone. Then Vegeta says something about “not talking to bastards” and Piccolo reassures him. Not entirely random 😁

[@Lixxie612]

I literally teared the fuck up at that scene.

[@conservat1vepatr1ot]

Lixxie Licious For those of us with heckling older brother relationships with our dads, it’s a sweet moment lol

[@Zombiewithabowtie]

"Now if you will excuse me, I will eliminate Cell." "I thought you were only programmed to kill Goku?" "This 'Cell' is comprised of 10.78% of Son Goku's DNA. These parameters... *are acceptable.* "

[@dylankornberg4892]

Zombiewithabowtie this might actually be my favorite DBZA line. Possible competitor is when Tien says “Enough! I am not a spectator, I AM A WARRIOR!” I always loved Tien as a kid and wished he had more cool moments.

[@Zombiewithabowtie]

@@dylankornberg4892 I can never read that guy. I know, right? TFS have a lot of talent with their writing, but they really show it off with the stuff they did for 16. P.S. My favourite line for Tein is probably the one to Android 18; "YOU!! Blow yourself up or leave!! I don't care which!!"

[@BBoy4040]

@@Zombiewithabowtie Trunks says that, not Tien.

[@Zombiewithabowtie]

@@BBoy4040 They both say it, but Tien says it first. It's his first line after he hits Semi-Perfect Cell with the Kikoho.

[@Loehrer18]

Cell : "I see a light!" A16 : " **WALK TOWARDS IT** "

[@krystalthefox8420]

my fav moment of DBZA is the fact that Perfect Cell and Yamcha are basically buddies, Yamcha is underappreciated in the series in general, the fact that Cell appreciates Yamcha is amazing! PERFECT CELL: Perfect. And Yamcha! What a surprise! How's it going man? YAMCHA: Oh! Uh, good. I brought towels and water bottles. PERFECT CELL: And like that, you've already contributed more than Vegeta.

[@rath3074]

Well I believe it’s also the fact that in Cell’s timeline Yamcha died from well himself. So I think Cell kind of wanted to uplift his spirits a little

[@Domesthenes]

Cell wanted Yamcha to be prey, not a statistic.@@rath3074

[@NX-Delta]

@@rath3074 i already imagine Cell listing through the Z Fighters to look for some good quality food to gain more power in case for defeating Trunks, and seeing: "Krillin: got killed by Android 17" -Well, not so surprising "Tien: Killed by Android 18" -Now it's a tie again "Yamcha: suic!de" -Woah, that is unexpected. Well, Yamcha finally got more kills here, than everyone else. And... that's even more depressing... I'll need tocheer him up a little in the past, maybe, then he will make a good meal in the future, which for me will be the past, or, like, my present now, but in this moment, but for future me it will be the past, and... Ugh, dang it! I'll just sneak up on Trunks, while he is distracted.

[@Haispawner]

The strongest character in the series at that moment and basically the weakest one having that convo is just so good. You'd never get a wholesome screwball to the face like that in the original.

[@GRtogetaBIC]

​@@NX-DeltaThat is a PERFECT dialogue for the character!

[@gulakov9006]

all these squares make a circle, all these squares make a circle, all these squares make a circle,

[@hanezutchins2786]

"Kami I need you to tell me I can leave the lookout if I want to." Kami:"Mr. Popo you can leave the lookout if you wa-" *BITCH DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!* ...all these squares make a circle

[@DagothThorus]

AND THATS ONE'S STILL GREEN

[@Pidge913]

Lmao Mr. Popo had me dead in DBZA

[@tobyhanke0719]

When I first heard that i didnt understand it 😂

[@captainmelvinseahorse1057]

Ok, what’s up with him?

[@walmartbrand4553]

My favorite is tien’s ballzyness when it comes to Vegeta. “At this point it’s a game, if he kills me, I win. And he knows that.”

[@JoelRiter]

*Stares intensely* I see what you did there...

[@shadow-km7vh]

Best part is that it’s a reference to an awesome movie scene lol

[@Lowkeylie]

“Fuck power levels! Fuck Super Saiyans! And FUCK! YOU!”

[@Way0fTheFist]

@@shadow-km7vh explain?

[@shadow-km7vh]

SuperKamiGuru 62 it’s an oldish movie called Se7en in one of the scenes the guy is asking what’s in the box and one of the lines of that seen is “if you kill him, he will win” it’s worded differently on abridged but I’m positive that it was a reference to that move

[@riku_darc3578]

My favorite thing about the Change to 16 backstory is that when they play the video he says the date is May 12th which means that Gero attacked with 19 on the anniversary of his sons death which is such an overlooked added piece of depth that DBZA created that I never see anyone mention.

[@Jakethediesel89]

Thats really REALLY cool, and you're right, I dont think anyone else has caught on to that

[@Hot4Thot]

Never noticed that. The DBZA guys made that series with love

[@rtdejimasan893]

I loved the fact they also had kid goku firing off a kamehameha at the end

[@petersimpson4648]

Wow, I completely missed that!

[@rabbitfish999]

I was even confused when Bulma says "that date sounds familiar"!

[@GoblinLord]

Honestly my favorite is the "You SEE FRIEZA, YOU AREN'T DEALING WITH YOUR AVERAGE SAIYAN WARRIOR ANYMORE"

[@Xenotaris]

Freeza: OH MY GOD!!!!

[@daiko77]

Fcking killed me everytime

[@summerrunner1755]

Loved how they brought back that line from Broly's father saying that again to haunt Vegeta.

[@scantopup2226]

have we been here before, I feel like we've been here before

[@CarlosSilva-bh4bi]

He said that 3 times

[@roadside_fury2631]

My favorite DBZA lines of them all: Krillin: "I was on Namek, shit got real. I got stabbed, and blown up!" Yamcha: "I was stabbed and blown up too. And dumped by the only girl I ever had!" Krillin: "Same. But you know the difference? When mine left she took all my money. When yours left, she took all *HER* money." Yamcha: ".........." Master Roshi: "....Gonna need a senzu for that one." They should have dropped one off the Krillin owned counter for that.

[@logicaloverdrive8197]

Nah, that was fucking savage, but i'm glad they saved it for 18.

[@Playful_Cloud21]

Not even a senzu could heal that

[@mygame6076]

Vegeta no!!! Vegeta Yeeeessss!!

[@logicaloverdrive8197]

@@mygame6076 Vegeta *no.*

[@john-olivierlukama1548]

Wait so krillin roasted yamcha, himself, or both?

[@BrokenNeuron]

Semi-Perfect Cell: How? How did you get so strong? Vegeta: I trained all day yesterday. Semi-Perfect Cell: Oh, you think you're being cute. Vegeta: Bitch, I'm Adorable!

[@daf6332]

Best bit about that is when trunks says that exact line to the androids in the future

[@MichaelMCDoesntExist69]

@@daf6332 not the Androids, he says it to Cell aswell

[@ampro7418]

My favorite line fr

[@smolgrizzly4608]

TFS vegeta feels more vegeta than og vegeta himself

[@clarenceorozco5300]

Cringe eww

[@ThoughTMusic]

“Krillian: Dude, he’s 11.....” “Cell: I’m 6!” “Krillian: Oh.....”

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

WAAAW

[@MrPopo-cc8lh]

Maggot*

[@KivaGordon]

@@MrPopo-cc8lh 😂😂👌

[@syrusangi8743]

Wow

[@thehairylarry]

@@MrPopo-cc8lh 🤣🤣🤣

[@blargety]

The top DBZA moment was Tienshinhan, hands down. "Fuck power levels." "Fuck super saiyans." "And FUCK YOU!" "SHIN KIKOHOOO!"

[@shuckelsfph3180]

"YOU UPSTART TRICLOPSE BITCH!"

[@phoenix1977]

fact that that came full circle when the cell games started and cell greeted everyonbe then he came to tien and you could here the distain in his voice when he said tenshinhan with tien responding smugly kikohowyadoing.

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

Ki ko how ya doin

[@b1akn3ss93]

Goku "Androids!" Trunks "Actually they are cybo... goku "androids"

[@awarmmilkandcookies]

"My siblings Cyborg 17 and 18" "We call them androids" "Well good for you, you're wrong!"

[@dynamicworlds1]

Can we appriciate for a moment that the androids were built by someone Bulma described as "adequate with robotics" and the implications of that if she was serious

[@blairbuskirk5460]

"Terrorists, no androids, terroroids, Guy's we've got a bad case of terroroids!" Goku " Am I in hell? Why am I in a bed? You'd think hell would have beds made out of spikes, or spiders, or spikey spiders, spikers!" Bardock

[@Azadi188]

@@awarmmilkandcookies In the manga 17 and 18 were cyborgs but 16 was an android, purely mechanical, which is why Cell couldn't absorb any energy from him. Did TFS give an explanation for it not working after they did make 16 a cyborg?

[@Skaypegote]

@@Azadi188 Yes. Cell: "Now you'll be a part of me" *fails to suck* "Of me" *fails again* of "Me" *fails again* "God, what are you made of? Pure metal?" Android 16: "Affirmative. I am ANDROID 16" Cell: "Mistakes were made"

[@orderofscribes]

Not gonna talk about tien being an actual good character?

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

The gag with Tien is that he is the only truly serious character. And that is hilarious.

[@oluftheexplorer9476]

"I'm the only real serious character in the show, that's the joke"

[@isaac2990]

Tien pointing out bullshit that was happening in the series was one of my favorites especially when he got so fed up with power gap and attacked cell to prove a point basically and said "fuck power levels" then went on to actually stop semi perfect cell for a short time

[@KWHere2]

@@isaac2990 "Ya know what? F*** Super Saiyans. F*** Power Levels. And F*** You! Ki Ko Ho!"

[@zotken8925]

@@KWHere2 "ki ko fuck yourself"

[@THISISYOUTUUUUUUUUBE]

Piccolo: "How... How many people?!" Cell: "... Enough." Absolutely chilling, and not something I expected from TFS

[@darthyamideathbringer]

"...All of them." would've been an awesome choice too

[@ShwappaJ]

....a few.

[@RacingSnails64]

@@ShwappaJ That's what he said in Kai. It was a good line and conveys Cell's demented nature well, but I gotta say, the TFS line is pretty damn cold and played much more seriously.

[@sebiDD7]

@@darthyamideathbringer yeah but 'enough' works so well because it ties into what Cells side quest had been before finding them.. which was to get just strong enough to be able to go and face them again.. he's basically letting piccolo know he's has enough stolen energy to beat them

[@trenchcoatjoe1891]

"In mere moments, the only thing you'll be feeling is oblivion" Was the most perfect Vegeta line from anything dragon ball related

[@Cashtenator]

“Bitch, I’m adorable” was better imo

[@JD-wu5pf]

@@Cashtenator Good for you, you're wrong.

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

"Or disappointment. Go ahead! Flip that coin "

[@alexanderzack3720]

my favourite will always be "is that me? is that me stronger than me? i´ll kill me" and later in the buu saga he would have

[@sebiDD7]

not sure if it was meant to be a reference to vegetas line in the budokai games when he performs the final flash.. yelling out 'welcome to oblivion'

[@MikaelNevear]

Cell: I'm impressed behind all that angst and ridiculous hair, there's a real fighter. Trunks: And behind that insufferable smarm is a dead man! Cell: Trunks, you couldn't fathom the amount of dead men behind me. *Chills every time.*

[@killa-soldier-_-2803]

It’s so badass 🔥🙌

[@zombieguy4444]

Cell does like his slices of bread

[@logicaloverdrive8197]

Piccolo: "How many?" Cell: *"Enough."*

[@Zitsanrael1117]

"Feel free to pray to your god.....but spoilers, I won't be listening."

[@mattiOTX]

That writing made cell still feel like a threat and kept him from being lost in the sillyness. Cell is wonderfully written.

[@Rejczzu]

Voices - A+ Story - A+ Characters - A+ Dialogues - A+ Waiting for next episode - C-

[@andrewpandrew7786]

rejczz to be fair it’s an F. To be honest though they don’t get paid and can actually lose money by being sued for doing this, soooo I guess the C- is appropriate.

[@xrobertson1061]

at this rate more like an E- barely staying above that f

[@dragonslayerz2220]

Nah, Buu Saga is going to be released all at once, rather than spaced out. (Well it's gonna probably be weekly, but still)

[@xrobertson1061]

@@dragonslayerz2220 please say this is confirmed

[@dragonslayerz2220]

I think they confirmed it in April.

[@BrokenWingman]

The lines from Vegeta are so damn good: "Huh. That's a new feeling; pride in someone else. Unfortunately, it's overSHADOWED BY ALL THIS UNYIELDING RAGE!" Vegeta is fucking perfect. And they didn't even change him up all that much! It's just so spot on. Goku and Gohan's dynamic. I like that Goku is the exaggerated absentee father, and that Gohan actually has some trauma from it all.

[@DarthFarter]

I AM THE HYPE!

[@unfazedo]

*Look at your men. Now back to me. Now look back at your men. Back to me. I am not your men. I'm flipping you off (middle finger). Now look at the ground. Back to me. Where's the dragon ball? It's gone.* And *Didn't Frieza blow you up? tHeN U shOuLD REaLly wAtCh OuT foR tHaT!! That's you!* My favorite parts of the entire DBZA including the one line from broly movie. *Speak louder boy I can't hear you down here!* This and Tien's hate boner for him is just hilarious!

[@BlackPawn14]

I like how they made a point of "deconstructing" Goku's Idiot Hero character. It's definitely exaggerated, but you can't forget he did so many incredibly stupid things in canon (like, well, giving Cell a FRICKING Senzu Bean). This also allows the other characters (like Gohan) to be played as aware of the fact that Goku's an idiot. A well-intentioned incredibly strong one, but an idiot nonetheless.

[@thewarmestgarbage6007]

I love the relationship between piccolo and Gohan where piccolo sees himself more as gohans father than goku 😂

[@Crazelord91]

"MY... BABY... BOY!!" Lani's read of that line gives me chills every time I watch it

[@buttonsfan]

I think they also really improved Vageta and Bulma’s romance. They hated each other, but that just got them going.

[@rtyuik7]

their 'exchange' (while Vegeta was destroying himself at 300X Gravity) was all they needed, AND it was more than the Original Dubs ever gave...just a simple 'fuck you...!' "Fuck YOU!!" '...my room, five minutes?'

[@arandomguywantingtobeayout8226]

@@rtyuik7 my favorite part xd

[@hellboy19991]

not exactly like they could have made that exchange even remotely in any original material

[@jordanlyons2609]

“Just to prove you wrong I am going to breed the nearest female.” “Oh cool.”

[@98loud]

@@hellboy19991...isn't this the same series where one wish from the dragon balls was a pair of a hot women's panties?

[@goryguy5106]

Dragonball Z was written for me when I was a kid in the late eighties and nineties. Abridged was rewritten for an adult me. I simply adore them both.

[@Frost-yw9sz]

Almost the same. I had lost interest in DB like 20 years ago. What did they renewed my interest in the franchise.

[@LazyLoonz]

@@Frost-yw9sz it showered your mind with a negative false outlook of the story, your no longer a fan of Dragonball.

[@LazyLoonz]

@@Frost-yw9sz if you thought that watching a dub was enough to rejoin the fanbase.

[@Frost-yw9sz]

​@@LazyLoonz Well, DBZ A made me interested again in DB products, but whatever makes you happy buddy. I won't waste time arguing what makes a fan or not rofl

[@kyaschafer7357]

@@LazyLoonz wow you're such an extreme little bitch.

[@danielgreenwell2117]

“What the hell is a Kami?!?” “It means God, now bow.” How do you not mention that amazing line!

[@bigcauc7530]

Because almost every goddamn line in the series is golden. He could just replay the entire series for you if you'd like 😂

[@jerlaine1638]

I legitimately think that's the best line followed up very shortly by Vegeta's "pound you so hard the boys mother will be jealous"

[@neoanimefreak_7606]

Vegeta: You! Namekian! Too strong! Explain now!"

[@hauldr]

@@bigcauc7530 i honestly would watch it lol

[@eclipsethezorua1905]

"Trunks... you couldn't *fathom* the amount of dead men behind me."

[@Zelltarian]

Yajirobe before TFS: Oh yea he's the guy who cuts off Vegeta's tail and gives you Senzu beans in the Legacy of Goku games Yajirobe after TFS: Beandaddy

[@s5701]

Have you ever seen what an old senzu bean diet does to a man?

[@ultimaboi2950]

@@s5701 no but i want to know more

[@s5701]

@@ultimaboi2950 lol

[@kylemonsterdrywallfistbump5948]

Beandaddy on abridged is just a rrference to him calking himself that on the original revenge of cooler. Abridged didn't come up with that.

[@hornyducks4090]

@@s5701 all* not old

[@TheDorianTube]

Gero's son didn't became an android. 16 was modeled after him, with a simulation of his personality ( like loving birds ). DBZA makes the distinction between androids and cyborgs. For him to be his actual son, it would make him a cyborg, but he's : pure metal

[@mrjimmy9915]

You’re schizophrenic

[@craigrobbins2463]

fullmetal, if you will.

[@kakarottoyt6405]

no shit Sherlock

[@matrixvalnar]

"The orange hillbilly beats his kid and wife" I loved how they portrayed the outsiders perspective to the insanity of the maincast. While the original showed perplexed faces, tfs showed dialogue, misunderstandings and even chichi fainting from the shock when seeing it on tv. Ingenius

[@josephmccafferty4172]

Wait, I just remembered, before those misunderstandings happened, Cell had a 60 Minutes part where he told all of DBZ lore about Goku. Did nobody watch the interview? I know Mr. Perfect Cell killed the interviewer at the end, but wasn't it being broadcasted?

[@therighteously8454]

Worst part is that's not even the worst of it. They regularly chill with God, one of them is the reincarnation of a dude who called himself a demon king, Goku knows devilman, pretty sure God was gone for like over a week, and out of everyone in Goku's group only Yamcha, Krillin, and Gohan haven't tried to kill or seriously injure Goku

[@beatsbyadmiralz5915]

@@therighteously8454 yamcha and krillin both tried to kill/seriously injure goku. Yamcha tried to injure goku and rob him during their first encounter and after he got beaten snuck to gokus and bulmas house to rob and kill him while he was asleep. Krillin tried to kill/seriously injure goku when they were both competing to get the only apprentice spot under Master Roshi (which turned out to be a test from Master Roshi). Krillin cut the ropes off a bridge in order for goku to fall to his death/seriously injure himself to be the first to finish Roshis task and get the apprentice spot

[@therighteously8454]

@@beatsbyadmiralz5915 You're right I forgot about those.

[@01100101011100100111]

@@beatsbyadmiralz5915 Wow, that kinda helps explain how/why Goku ended up the way he....is.

[@gehnzou1]

And then Tri-clops shows up and decides "I'm going to turn triangles in to feckin squares"

[@Pidge913]

Lmao also Mr. Popo on a gallon of LSD saying, "all these squares make a circle"

[@clownie1313]

“I will never read that guy”

[@Quickstein]

Cell in the distance: "How did all these squares make a circle!?"

[@khupno3356]

Jesus Villarreal cell: and that one is still green

[@gehnzou1]

@@khupno3356 Let it go, Cell, you have sh!t to do.

[@schkoopdawhoop7885]

Trunks: “NOTICE MEEEEE!” Vegeta: “...Nooooooo....”

[@chaseg4098]

lul

[@enforcer0175]

Look at me! I'm Trunks! Love me daaaaad!

[@definitelyNOTademonlol]

Goku: Hey Trunks! How's your training going? Trunks: I don't know let's see... HEY DAD YOU WANNA TRAIN WITH ME!? 'Geets: FUCK OFF!

[@phoebusapollo8365]

@@enforcer0175 that’s a terrible impression

[@enforcer0175]

@@phoebusapollo8365 but not inaccurate!

[@waterbat95]

Thanks to TFS's Vegeta, every time I call my rats cute, I imagine them replying, *"Bitch, we're ADORABLE!"*

[@propheinx2250]

I hope to find myself in a situation I can use it as a retort.

[@JohnEusebioToronto]

They also fixed a number of plot holes in the original. Why can't Piccolo, Tien, Chiaotzu, or Yamcha use the Kaioken or the Spirit Bomb? Because they pissed off King Kai and he refused to teach them. Why does no one else ever learn instant transmission? Goku didn't learn it; he got it from eating sick aliens. The others don't have a bunch of sick aliens to eat. Why not wish back King Kai? Yamcha goofed when phrasing the wish. How did Trunks survive 18's blast, despite taking a huge blast at point-blank range and being too weak to stand? 17 got in the way. Why didn't Mr. Popo transport Goku straight to the Saiyans? He was makin' toast. I also feel like they humanized (saiyan-ized?) Vegeta a bit more by giving him his own sarcastic tender side. Him flipping off Trunks was genuinely heart-warming to watch.

[@ripper3052]

@@Mimhere are you an idiot? It's not from Manga and filler scene and mr. Popo thought kinto'un was enough

[@kaspergulljensen9665]

@@NixiePixie22 no he was just REALLY fast

[@JohnEusebioToronto]

@@NixiePixie22 nah, he was just moving really fast.

[@greg77389]

Yeah, Toryiama is a pretty bad writer

[@JohnEusebioToronto]

@@greg77389 I disagree. I think he's a good writer, but his memory is terrible. The guy doesn't do well with following rules, but I think he understands characters and motivations pretty well.

[@dariogallegos1779]

My fav Nail line: “mom, dad please stop fighting”

[@hanezutchins2786]

"You're not meditating, you're sleeping-I know the difference!"

[@matthewlemon9282]

My fav Nail moment was when he asked if he had to move the pool table to make room for Kame

[@jhalilxvii]

@@matthewlemon9282 *Pool table noises* Nail: What trick?

[@literallyasneeze2135]

"Lower"

[@andrewsebree4333]

"Nail gun?"

[@jamjar6667]

What do you call a group of humans? Mr popo: An infestation I laughed for a long time

[@zodiacqueen1356]

Filthy ningens

[@fiercedonkey4556]

IS THAT THE NEMEKIAN?!?! IS THAT ME!?!? IS THAT ME STRONGER THAN ME?!?!?! I’LL FUCKING KILL ME!!!!

[@dequariuswalker4739]

Right🤣🤣

[@faze_inaba3254]

I gotta agree with the black man here.

[@elmeralvarado1236]

Hi........

[@that_guy55]

"when a man is inside you, you know when he's coming" Always cracks me up

[@GRtogetaBIC]

Wait, I don't remember this one. When did they say it?

[@andr3artist]

It is when mecha frieza goes to earth if i remember correctly

[@Sorain1]

IIRC it was 'when a man has been inside you, you know when he's coming.' but yeah, classic.

[@RondoOfBloodX]

Something else about the Androids I love that TFS did is actually GIVE them a true brother and sister relationship. Just hearing their dialogue they have with each other is great.

[@jonathacirilo5745]

didn't the original do the same thing? it just had less jokes for obvious reasons.

[@RondoOfBloodX]

@@jonathacirilo5745 The closest the original got to having them act like siblings was in The History Of Trunks Special.

[@jonathacirilo5745]

@@RondoOfBloodX idk about that. the part with them trying to find goku and the fight against inperfect cell... also they very first appearences.

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

"GODDAMN CHEATING SON OF A BIT--" "AHHHAHAHA! He rocked your shit!"

[@danielsepulveda5852]

they where empty as hell in original DBZ, they where kinda weird, like, their first apearence was killing Gero refusing to follow his orders but then for some whatever reason they just decide to go Kill Goku anyways. they barely had any dialogue, they joke a little bit about how stronger they are compared to the heroes and thats it. Thats why it was freaking weird when 17 ruled the ToP in DBS and sudenly lots of people started saiyng 17 was their favorite character from DBZ, like, the hell he was, nobody cared about 17 in dbz, 18 had a little more on her side cuz of the relationship with Krilin but 17 basicaly just existed so that Cell could get a second form for Vegeta to Shine a little.

[@MisterSouji]

Honestly I loved when piccolo had to explain to goku that gohan didnt actually like fighting.

[@shockwavesyndrome6433]

MaxSonic yeah that was in the real show as well, they only change so much when they completely steal someone's animation and dub over it

[@ccdxdhk1575]

@@shockwavesyndrome6433 lol they arent stealing it

[@nappy9987]

@@shockwavesyndrome6433 Stealing implies that they are taking it and saying "Look at my animation" (Like mastar media) They give the proper credits to everyone who was involved with the old show (The studios not the actual people) Now dubbing over it would just be the tfs voicew with the same exact lines in the show. They have made the show into something else while also fixing plot holes. Please know about something before you screech.

[@shockwavesyndrome6433]

I'm Right You're Wrong not gonna refute me? Too stupid?

[@shockwavesyndrome6433]

A Nappy Headed Hooligan sure kid and if all of that's true then tell me, if it's fair use and not copied then why can't they put ads on the videos? Why must there be an entire minute long start up talking about how it's not theirs and they don't make money off of it because they literally take the entire show and dub over it? Notice how honest trailers can put ads on their videos because they take clips and comment it's fair use for them but why not for tfs? Maybe before you screech you should know what you are talking about

[@AG_Speaks]

"Don't worry Vegeta, we'll help your baby boy!" "Fuckin' better..."

[@horrorfan117]

I actually loved the change to Vegeta during the finale. The whole world kinda dropping away while he was at a loss for words looking at his dead son was far more impactful than the inner dialogue about how cell crossed a line to harmed his pride by killing his son that we did get. The “MY BABY BOY!” still hits deep.

[@onorebakasama]

Goku's pep talk with Gohan during the final Kamehameha is criminally underrated. It's written like a joke, but the things he says to Gohan are SO beautiful. Especially: "You are more than just my son. You are Son Gohan." That line has so, SO much meaning behind it I could be here all day talking about it. It doesn't look like it, but it's *powerful.* It's so beautiful I cry just thinking about it.

[@MrDeldris]

Now plant your feet, grit your teeth, and EAT THAT HORSE! I also love that before Gohan falls he's like "Horse eaten".

[@rednaxela5960]

Yep, loys of small but great lines that better dragonball. That line actually understood the whole point behind gohan and goku in the present timeline vs future gohan and how he went about his role as a fighter in the future timeline.

[@Thomas-qd4xg]

Krillen committed insurance fraud not tax evasion.

[@meatsauce3751]

Is it insurance fraud if you actually died?

[@zilhad3584]

@@meatsauce3751 Not from our perspective, but it would be a bitch to explain how you actually died on a planet light years away from our solar system and somehow managed to get back to earth alive and well.

[@user-eu8kr5ub5m]

Meat Sauce well he took out a life insurance policy on himself before they went to namek and had them send the money to his “twin brother” knowing that if he died he would just be wished back and could pretend to be his brother. So since he technically faked his death it could be counted as insurance fraud

[@jacobp.2024]

@@user-eu8kr5ub5m I think they could get him for having a beneficiary that doesn't exist, right?

[@richardmintz6222]

either way hes going to prison for a loooong time.

[@FTL_Muffins]

In the DBZA coolers revenge movie: Goku: *revives bird* " I'm gonna name you toriyama. Go and tame a dinosaur and teach it how to ride a ball." DBZA: Android 16: "what's you're name birdie?" Bird: "tweet" Android 16: "Toriyama?!?!" Bird: "tweet" Android 16: "Sure I would love to see your dinosaur." Bird: "tweet" Android 16: "IT DOES WHAT?!?!?!?!?"

[@MeekToManyMeals]

Bro never noticed that wtf

[@SovereignAure]

All of which are references to Toriyama himself and the lyrics to Cha-La Head-Cha-La. I'm glad somebody else caught that connection, I remember laughing my ass off watching 16's reaction.

[@1truefreedomfighter]

Thanks for the tip. I didn't know about coolers revenge movie.

[@Awesomest915]

I kid you not, I didn’t get that joke until I first listened to Cha-La Head Cha-La with English subs about a year later.

[@makinbacon8725]

Incorrect. Goku names the bird toriyama before he dies and goes super saiyan to revive him, that’s when he says the rest

[@scarybusey]

Imperfect Cell: "My brother and sister, Cyborgs 17 and 18" Piccolo: "We call them androids" Imperfect Cell: "Well good for you, you're wrong!"

[@VampireObssessed]

The whole Cell arc was just amazing. Every line he says is just, and pardon the pun... perfect

[@scarybusey]

@@VampireObssessed Semi perfect? How can you be semi perfect? You're either perfect or you're not me!

[@VampireObssessed]

@@scarybusey Vegeta: Did... did you just talk out your ass? Cell: Well, to be fair Vegeta, you are part of my DNA Vegeta: Ooh, that's the closest thing you've done to damage since I've gotten here

[@scarybusey]

@@VampireObssessed Vegeta: "What the hell am I sensing? Is that the Namekian!!!?? Is that me!!!??? Is that me stronger than me!!!!!???? I'LL FUCKIN KILL ME!!!!!

[@hanezutchins2786]

"Now I know what you're thinking. Should I rip off his tail? But the answer may surpri-" *16 rips his tail off* *AHHHHHHHHHHHHH*

[@JohnnyG351]

It may not fit into the original series but my favorite TFS change is the back and forth between Vegeta and Gohan on namek. The "thwartin my plans" little skit is gold in my books

[@MrDeldris]

I love when that comes up later with Trunks. "Thwartin' my plans?" "Thwartin' your plans?" "Are you?!" "....You know what? YES!"

[@serrashadetail2007]

Totally Not Mark: "Mr. Popo doesn't count." Mr. Popo: "What was that, Maggot?!"

[@bladey_0_10]

Pecking order

[@user-cn8xi4el6h]

I read this in his voice, mom dad pick me up, im scared

[@TactfulWaggle]

@@user-cn8xi4el6h the eternal darkness that is in your mind... thats no darkness...

[@user-cn8xi4el6h]

@@TactfulWaggle oh god, NOOOOO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, DONT DO THAT POPO, PLEASE I HAVE YOUR MONEY NOOOO, POPO PLEASE I KNOW THE PECKING ORDER, NOOOO

[@bladey_0_10]

@@user-cn8xi4el6h I read that in Dbza krillins voice 😂😂😂

[@QKumberZ]

Imagine if they did the Buu saga. We could have the same gag where Goku needs to charge the spirit bomb, and he would ask Vegeta to stall Kid Buu. "And considering how much I struggled in the ssj3 form.... I'm sure you can handle it"

[@Sorain1]

"The Namekian was right, you can hold a grudge!"

[@TheOriginalJphyper]

There's also a scene in which Videl fights a gangster who happens to look like Nappa. There's some possibilities there.

[@sethb3090]

The Spirit Bomb is the least reliable technique in the series. It doesn't take out Vegeta (and it hits Gohan during that fight, who just kinda bounces it back). It doesn't take out Frieza. It implodes when Goku tries it on Android 13. Future Trunks finally makes it work by using it as a sword instead of a blast. Not only does it not work on Jiren, when it hits Goku it actually makes him stronger. Also it finally took out Buu. Not a great track record though.

[@DragonSword227]

Yeah, cause repeating the same old jokes are “HILARIOUS!” 😒😒😒

[@Xeno574]

@@DragonSword227 It's called a callback.

[@johnurbanek1027]

I also loved how Piccolo went from being demon to a yoshi before they learned about Namek.

[@Tsweeney12584]

John Urbanek I liked it better when I had proper bladder control. Nobody’s perfect

[@hauldr]

mad props for such an old joke

[@RabblesTheBinx]

And now he's a demon again.

[@ianmason96]

Demon to Yoshi to slug-person to demon again, assuming something like Daima happened after the series in the TFS canon

[@smarticus9123]

the best change that TFS made that you didnt mention was Kami fusing with Piccolo and the weight that it held. Kami's reluctance in the original material seemed to be out of his worry about cell, but TFS made it into a sorrow over losing all of his own free will and the fact he had to rejoin with what was an evil side of himself.

[@mikiczm3248]

The scene I liked way more in Abridged was when Gohan turned his rage on against Cell. He didn't become Goku Jr. He was still nerdy, but cool as fuck in his own way.

[@ElissonDSouza]

never liked dbza Gohan. Not only because he isn't funny, but because I find him boring too. In the original series I really saw gohan as a character. Because in my opinion, we can feel more emotions coming from the characters like sadness, anger, melancholy. Much of this is lost in dbza by treating everything as a joke. In conclusion, I still prefer Gohan turning ssj2 against cell in the original series, With the original soudtrack it gets even better.

[@dankmagician7108]

@@ElissonDSouza I know you did not just say the English dub theme for Gohan's SSJ2 transformation is better than spirit vs spirit from the sub. That has to be a sin.

[@timmybear5284]

@@dankmagician7108 DING!

[@dankmagician7108]

@@timmybear5284 I forgot about what he had said since this was a month ago and now I am just as enraged as I was before, like holy shit how can someone think the dub OST for Gohan's transformation is better than the sub's

[@brendanmartin4489]

@@timmybear5284 28 episodes of filler +100 sin DING

[@dylankornberg4892]

Tien: “this is the last cool thing I do. There is no joke.” Semi-perfect Cell: “Respect.”

[@Ewafingmyth]

you mean "Respec"

[@Chargedolt]

AW BEANS

[@musaratjahan7954]

You've got 666 likes and I'm not touching that

[@theflammiferofwesternesse6122]

Trunks: "Father! Notice me!" Vegeta: "Nooooo!"

[@nivek8787]

Trunks: *Dies* Vegeta: MY BABY BOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[@yacovmogo]

Gohan: Vegeta no! Vegeta:VEGETA YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!

[@108wee]

@@nivek8787 Piccolo: Don't worry we'll go revive your "baby boy" *snickers* and flys off Vegeta: fucking better.

[@carlrood4457]

Great parody is an act of love. It's from people who know and love the source, but can still recognize the sillier aspects and plot wholes. The parody emphasizes this while still maintaining the great parts of the original. It's why Star Trek fans love Galaxy Quest. It even went the extra yard in turning everything they made fun of around into an awesome moment later.

[@dnmstarsi]

I agree. While the Ocean to OG Funimation Dub is my favorite version of DBZ, DBZA is still fucking hilarious and well written at times. IMHO Early episodes haven't aged that well but they started some great gags in the series so fuck it but once we get to the second half of Namek, we get stronger character moments, Nail being part of the series and improving Piccolo, Krillin and 18, Vegeta, Tien and Yamcha along with other side characters getting more love and character respectively, list goes on. I may not follow the canon of the series over the official one but there are parts of it I wish made it into the official material along with stuff mentioned in interviews like the Androids.

[@DTSephiroth]

A20: "19! Dodge!" A19: " *Beginning dodge protocol* " Get's hit anyway A20: "Why is dodging a subroutine?! It's not that complex!" Piccolo glares at Gohan Gohan: "What? ... What?!"

[@quentincoetzee4313]

Counterpoint: During the fight between Piccolo and 17 A16: Dodge! A17: Dodge wha-? 17 gets hit by Piccolo and stumbles back. A17: You know 16, yelling 'Dodge!' is more distracting than helpful!

[@Giyothecoolkid]

Dangggg

[@DTSephiroth]

@@quentincoetzee4313 Yeah that was funny af

[@omarmenjivar1563]

Later in the cell fight... Piccolo: "Gohan dod-" Gohan: *dodges* Kami: "You must be so proud"

[@jadendiles6674]

Yea but he could be dodging better

[@RetroRanger88]

I think Piccolo and Kami's interaction on the lookout deserves an honorable mention. Kami, feeling bitter about being one with Piccolo, knowing his body would be just another prison, and that whole situation was handled much better with TFS than it was by Funimation. When TFS wants to write serious, they really do a damn good job of it.

[@totz_the_plaid9625]

A PERFECT moment!

[@tsm688]

Serious doesn't work so well when everything is so serious. This is dragon ball damn it, lighten up once in a while.

[@98loud]

@@tsm688 im confused... you think dfza is too serious...?

[@clarenceorozco5300]

​@@98loudare u dumb? Cause I'm pretty sure it means serious and comedic moments are not lined well.

[@mabuhahege7693]

Also the speech held by A16 to Gohan was a really deep talk! "There u are, the good man, doing nothing!"

[@fumarc4501]

Facorite change... “Gohan’s Dad” in the subtitles whenever Piccolo talks after season 2.

[@ZakanaHachihaCBC]

Only the Canadian subtitles.

[@GippyHappy]

That’s just the joke subtitles and TFS doesn’t even do the subtitles

[@PippenFTS]

When Vegeta says sorry at the end. Holy fucking shit I had to replay that like 4 times

[@thatoneguy8907]

"I'M KILLING EVERYONE....then I'm going to range the shit out of that park" -tfs android 17

[@muichirotokitou2615]

Aaaand that's how TFS predicted the future

[@dawnbreaker1775]

Maeve: The smug one they didn’t predict it he was a park ranger in the buu saga

[@jruler93]

That was TFS' Future 17, and I believe he said he's going to kill every human.

[@Blintedhaa]

“There’s more than one way to realise the legend!... I wanna be a super sayain! I wanna! I wanna! I wanna!” DBZA Vegeta and Nappa were perfect

[@toastedjam1470]

Frezia was also really funny tho

[@burnslee1164]

Okay, but it got funnier when they had Cell do it, "I wanna be perfect! I wanna! I wanna! I wanna! I wanna!"

[@durim187]

"I was wearing my armor" -Vegeta.

[@thestanimal6076]

"... you're an idiot" Bulma

[@doublevendetta]

"The fuck's a condom??"

[@tugmylantern4244]

@Freddy Voorhees "You know you are being more bitchy than usual today, and NOT in a hot way"

[@tugmylantern4244]

@Freddy Voorhees Niiiiiice xD

[@tugmylantern4244]

@Freddy Voorhees I WAS WEARING MY ARMOR

[@MuteLung]

my favorite line from dbza is without question the little exchange trunks and perfect cell have while they're fighting. "And behind all that insufferable smarm is a dead man!" "Trunks, you can't fathom the amount of dead men behind me." My jaw literally dropped. to this day i still think episode 53 is one of the best ones they ever did, including the finale.

[@ConnorRambles]

So we're not gonna talk about how LittleKuriboh pretty much inspired the future of Frieza's voice in the anime and games now?

[@TheKazragore]

The voice of Frieza in DBZA and the Broly Movie is so similar.

[@farguc]

@@TheKazragore LittleKuriboh literally is the father of Abridged on youtube.

[@otterfire4712]

@@farguc PurpleEyesWTF is like a mad scientist when it comes to humor for Abridged series.

[@wingfighter2]

No he didn’t...?

[@Vaksharules1999]

Is it a hot take to say Frieza having a sophisticated British accent is way less silly than a raspy old woman's voice? Chris Ayres did great work in Kai and I'm glad they went that way.

[@Nyahahameha]

There's one small exchange between the androids that I think sums up what I love about the changes TFS made to them: "Rocket Punch!" _"Wow, really?"_ _"THAT IS SO COOL!"_

[@savemysoul9093]

Lord Scribe STOP IT

[@sensekaren2395]

My favorite moment from the show. Is when Freeza was counting lines. I genuinely thought it was from actual dragon ball until I rewatched DBZA again.

[@ElHarmonyV]

And 500, Dodoria give them what they want.

[@sofakingonmynuts1438]

@@ElHarmonyV FUCK YOUR FACE!

[@lecourtisan4554]

@@sofakingonmynuts1438 Oh my !...... 12.

[@Sorain1]

It's absolutely the kind of thing we'd think of Freeza doing. It's utterly demeaning to everyone else and shows how he considers them nothing but props for his amusement.

[@HazyBlackest]

"Imma deck you in the schnoz!" "Sorry, that's a new one... Who are you?"

[@aqiubabdullah3574]

Vegeta: boy, don't make me come up there and be a parent!! Trunks: first time for everything dad! Vegeta: OH HO HOOOO 😂😂😂

[@brianhall4182]

DBZA made me like Yamcha and Tien way more than I did in the original. They have actual character to them.

[@justinsanchez8693]

That's pretty ironic. TFS kind of started off all the Yamcha memes and hate. I really liked Yamcha before TFS, after watching DB when I was much younger.

[@Sunaki1000]

Funny they had Personality in DB Classic, but lost all of this in Z. But oh wonder, everyone think Z is the best DB Season.

[@n.m.4138]

@@Sunaki1000 I really didn't care all that much about the cell saga. It had it moments but, it doesn't compare to most of the tournament saga to the buu saga. That season introduced more characters and development especially for Vegeta. I also mainly grew up on that saga more when I was younger.

[@Sunaki1000]

@@n.m.4138 The two tornaments of this Ark are a big fakeout, but I like the Story between Cell and Buu. It was nice little Charakterfokused Comedy. Not many high stakes, but harmless.

[@pj_spirit]

Sternia Hoenheim That’s great and all but you’re assuming people saw/read/know about original DB. There are people TO THIS DAY who think Pilaf Gang, more specifically Mai, because she’s the only one with relevance now, was first introduced in DBS. There are people who don’t know that Demon King Piccolo was a thing or than Shenron straight up died and had to be glued back together. People usually just watched Z and moved on with the series. I bet there are a whole damn lot of people who don’t know Tien and Yamcha both beat Goku in one on one fights either

[@danielinskip8427]

I think TFS did an amazing job with Cell himself, the way he acts, certain remarks he makes like telling Trunks that he's already killed him in another timeline and saying that 16 didn't have a soul was brilliant.

[@SuperShanko]

And being something of a masochist was funny as well.

[@JaysonLevicus]

Not to mention the subtle point of 18 saying "there's a 'soulless' joke somewhere in there, but that's beneath me" about android 16 being a ginger. Then, later on, Cell makes that exact joke, saying "we both know he never had a soul!" after killing android 16. The joke WAS beneath android 18 since she's more humane, but it wasnt beneath the heartless asshole that Cell was.

[@just_a_tepig3611]

I loved the PERFECT song he did, while goofy it was also menacing in a way how he was singing about the genocide he'll commit while everyone there was just shaking

[@whatthefeebas2505]

@@JaysonLevicus not to mention that Cell was physically beneath her at that point as well.

[@ene7065]

@@SuperShanko Also, takahata101 voiced Cell perfectly.

[@paualamar]

Episode 34 *Trunks goes super saiyan* Goku: "Whao, what hapened to your hair? It's Yellow" Trunks: "So is yours" Goku: "It is?"

[@YamiFudo]

😆😆😆😆

[@logan6034]

.....okay...? And how does this comment contribute to the subject of the video??

[@YamiFudo]

@@logan6034 It's only a line in the clip that was funny.

[@goodoldaley6375]

@@logan6034 I think it's a funny way to highlight the fact that it was never shown or explicitly said that Goku even knew what the transformation does outside the power boost before coming back to Earth. It relates to the video by being another change. A small one, but a change still.

[@MrDragonflair]

Goku:what about me? Trunks: You dont make it to the battle either, you die of heart failure the year before. Goku: What? How? Trunks: According to the Coroner, too much bacon. *Goku turns Super Sayian* "You take that back!" 😂😂😂😂😂 Crack up EVERYTIME.

[@pinkcupcake4717]

I greatly appreciate that DBZA and the spinoffs breathed life into characters otherwise long since abandoned. Yamcha forced to retire from his overly successful baseball career with a massive fortune. Nappa a Hollywood mogul and supportive mentor to Vegeta as a new father. Android 16 getting a happy, peaceful ending instead of the void. These characters are shown extra love, and it made them even more lovable.

[@tiptoppervga]

Android #17: Oh.. oh... ohhh.. ohh shit. Piccolo: HELLZONE GRENADE! Android #17: Oh man it’s even got a cool name

[@wompastompa3692]

Android #16: Rocket punch! Android #18: Ugh. Android #17: THAT IS SO COOL!

[@kash7449]

Wompa Stompa I was literally thinking the same thing

[@mattmalco10]

And the classic KAIO-KEN kaio What?

[@fiercedonkey4556]

X Just Goku X Piccolo: You know how I use the Special Beam Cannon with one hand, what if I used two hands instead. Nail: Kinda like the Kamehameha? Piccolo: No, not like the Kamehameha. The Kamehameha doesn’t drill things. Kame: Neither does a cannon Piccolo: That’s what makes it special

[@oluftheexplorer9476]

Kami: Why are you backflipping? Piccolo: To gain some distance! Kami and Nail: YOU CAN FLY!!

[@TheRayny]

DBZA is the effect of having what in italy we call "the sense of after". After you do or perceive a thing and start thinking deeply about it, you can see how things turned out and how it could have been done better, beyond personal tastes, while in development you either consciously or not made decisions that cut off or clobbered some things. And thing is, it's extremely hard for companies to do it even while realizing it, since they all have an host of bindings they have to respect, but fanbases do not - while having their own issues by themselves. DBZA it's indeed a very good thing.

[@fiercedonkey4556]

Enrico Boccardi Hindsight is truly 20/20

[@Bes1997_]

Confermo...conoscendo una cosa e vedendola per come è cominci a pensare “come avrei proceduto io?” ed Abridged è letteralmente la creazione di questi ragazzi, un gruppo che ha voluto riscrivere dragon ball per renderlo meno da bambini e più da adulti. Questo perché un ragazzino si fermerebbe all’ilarità di, non so, Krilin che si masturba nella grotta per Bulma, o goku che sforna muffin sulla nave di Frieza, ma l’adulto vede le cose più profonde e apprezza la qualità del loro lavoro, perché Abridged è un piccolo capolavoro. Ad esempio io ho riflettuto molto nella scena dove Piccolo fa quel discorso a goku, chiedendogli “hai mai chiesto a tuo figlio, almeno una volta, cosa gli piace e cosa no?” E goku dice “ma lui ha passato un anno con me nella stanza dello spirito e del tempo, credevo gli piacesse” e piccolo gli fa giustamente notare che Gohan non lo ha fatto per allenarsi ma per trascorrere tempo con lui, suo padre, che ha passato metà del tempo morto e l’altra metà ad allenarsi da solo, e a volte entrambe le cose contemporaneamente (bellissima anche questa precisazione dell’entrambe le cose)...per un uomo che ha vissuto col padre spesso assente per lavoro, lontano come rapporto o del tutto assente (morto o cose simili) quella scena ha un peso notevole. Ammetto di essermi sentito sinceramente male per gohan in quel momento

[@ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970]

So you're talking about fucking hindsight then.

[@eletrix3017]

Frate non la ho mai sentita sta cosa

[@williamhallam706]

Sooooo... hindsight?

[@Treasure_Panda_Boy]

One line I absolutely love is: “this is so non-canon that it hurts”

[@oH_._]

Where is this referenced at? I wanna know the source

[@muhammadseif2804]

KankSchlap I think that it’s the turles movie, vegeta is watching from a tv and he says that, I’ll go make sure rn

[@muhammadseif2804]

KankSchlap yea it’s from the tree of might part 2, vegeta is sitting on namek and just randomly says that

[@hanezutchins2786]

"He keeps kicking me in the dick. Why? Why does he keep kicking me in the dick??"

[@amycrescione5880]

yeah doesn't feel good does it kakarot?

[@Shiirow]

that weird moment when you realize the story and characterization in DBZA was closer to the source material than the "official dub" by Funimation.

[@KingsNerdCave]

Frieza (made funnier but definitely still sadistic), Nappa (sure goofy but way more relevant than just being a mucsle head), Piccolo (with his internal dialogs and more down to earth demeanor), and Tien (made a very real character, and out-right points out what he thinks of others) are the characters best changed and still themselves made by team four star. Also I really just love the scene where Gohan turns SSJ2 and when Goku tries to get him to stop torturing Cell Gohan just throws all of Goku's dumb choices right back at him. That dialog right there should have been in the actual series.

[@starchild3215]

My personal favorite "I know, how about I throw him a goddamn senzu bean and let you fight him"

[@dontclickonmyprofile3066]

Yeah in the end line: " I don't want to be a bad father I am just bad at being one" feels man tugged my heartstrings there.

[@leerobbo92]

Honestly, I don't think there's a single character where they made them worse: they only ever improved them somehow. And that's an amazing achievement given how iconic and well-developed some of the original characters were.

[@Sairiui]

@@leerobbo92 "how iconic and well-developed some of the original characters were" Toriyama: *spits out drink and laughs in every character that isn't Goku*

[@ComicWriter-ml3qt]

leerobbo92 popo

[@ArtKeshav]

From Raditz's: So nudity makes you stronger on this planet? to Future Bulma's explaining to Trunks the details of how he was born, TFS "nailed" it.

[@KrawmKruach]

"in for a penny in for a pounding i always say, and boy was I."

[@leaDR356]

*Nail Gunned it

[@kakarottoyt6405]

​@@KrawmKruach'...And I really was' *********

[@MCWaxC]

It’s not just giving Nail and Kami more time around because they’re developed. It’s the fact that they even are developed. Nail had practically zero personality in Z and the fact that he’s interesting at all in DBZA is a huge accomplishment.

[@LuckiSir]

Yeah, he went from a generic honorable personality to a 'My asshole elder sent me to my death, so I might as well stick with you.' Which I prefer this better

[@DoctorDisasterDracula]

Absolutely. He's kind of like that dick headed roommate you get annoyed with sometimes, but he actually helps pay rent and it's a good time to just shoot the shit with them.

[@Evilmonkey7270]

Piccolo: Yeah, knda preachin' to the choir on that one...

[@pumpdaddyg]

“Mom,dad. Please stop fighting...”

[@CarbonMage]

Kami too, his "just another prison" speech before fusing was an amazing addition to a character that hadn't really been developed outside of the 23rd World Tournament arc

[@Comeoutwithyourhandsup]

The funniest part about piccolo talking to kami and nail is without a doubt, hands down, when piccolo tries to scream “NAIL GUN” i had to pause the video to dry my face from all the tears i laughed out

[@thestanman1486]

I'm surprised you didn't talk more about Android 16. He became so badass and so wholesome at the same time. His love for birds, his fight with Imperfect Cell (especially his lines), his final message to Gohan before dying, it's all great and makes me love the character more. And he probably has the best one liners in the whole series.

[@dannybenhur6123]

Cell: "You think you're being Cute" Vegeta: "Bitch, I'm Adorable!!"

[@Aeradom2000]

Cell: "Oh hahaha! You think you're cute!?" Trunks: "Bitch, I'm adorable!"

[@GalaxyAl28]

Ah yes, Princess Trunks

[@arealbigchungus]

Making dodoria the thiccest girl from her planet was probably the most hilarious change, a close second being krillin whackin it in the cave on namek

[@HaddaClu]

*shrill screaming* OH God it's everywhere!!!!

[@Matteo73M]

The wiki said he has A Ya now what should I say it Just read the wiki

[@Spencer_232]

@@Matteo73M Oh my!!!!

[@cale1731]

My favorite change was that they made the most serious speeches better than the original show and since they were put into a comedic version of the show they carried mkre weight and the words hit a little harder

[@dom9407]

Yeah alot of the emotional bits were better. I was never as pumped for a next episode as when goku reaches namek in dbz abridged. The next time on dbz thing just isnt as good

[@notahooman3598]

You just said that popo doesn't count... You're gonna regret that

[@LOLAP95]

Seriously wtf. Popo is an OG

[@kieranrose1075]

Pecking Order!

[@GemayelDaniel]

Hiiii

[@TheBanjoDuck]

I know your singing about me maggots. -Popo DBZA Popo the Genie

[@DavidGarcia-oi5nt]

@@TheBanjoDuck Listen up maggots

[@edwardness7497]

To put in to perspective how long this has been going for... when they started, Myspace was still a thing... still love ya Tom

[@zls9890]

"Well hi, Tom!"

[@Sampletexto1]

Dont forget he got replaced by Goku.

[@errwhattheflip]

@@Sampletexto1 He came back in episode 49, though. Of course, he died fairly quickly afterwards.

[@ArtKeshav]

Vegeta: Wrestling's fake. (Ginyu Force episodes are fucking masterpiece hands down)

[@jonathacirilo5745]

"coreographed"

[@robertlavery6896]

I always felt that TFS made Vegeta's final flash vs Cell much cooler than the original

[@Pwilliams4000]

the only thing your gonna feel is oblivion

[@adamdinar376]

That or disappointment. Go ahead, flip that coin

[@unlimitedsaucex7420]

No

[@robertlavery6896]

@@unlimitedsaucex7420 uh, yeah.

[@jackychang9148]

​@@Pwilliams4000you're*

[@Nash1t0]

I love the siblings dynamic 17 and 18 have. It makes them seem closer but not out of character.

[@DBZMacky]

Before Dragon Ball Z abridged, I couldn't even be bothered to give a damn about characters like Nappa. In fact, as a kid I even though Nappa and Recoome were the same guy for some reason. Then came DBZA and changed _everything_ *Nappa:* "I am hilarious and you will quote everything I say"

Recoome: ‘‘The name's... Recoome! It rhymes... with doom! And you're gonna be hurtin', ALL. TOO. SOOOOOOOOOOO-nuh!’’

[@caseymather1957]

DBZMacky I thought recoome and Android 18 were the same

[@mmyummers]

You were a stuuuuuupid kid lmao

[@tibbar20111987]

@ Not only read it in Recoome's voice but alao in his pose... I need help!

[@digizilla164]

But nobody cares about Raditz still.

[@mlevin7]

*”SSSSHHHIIIINNNN!!! KIKOOOOOOHHHHOOOOOOOOO!”* “Aw that’s a adora-SHIIIIIIT”

[@kabisue1997]

"So I was hairs from perfection, until triclops comes along and decides to turn triangles into fucking squares!" - Semi-perfect Cell

[@Sorain1]

Huh. Ominous bit of foreshadowing of Cell's tendency to vastly underestimate the danger of attacks. (Oh how cute' is pretty much 'aw that's adorable' and both end with Cell panicking because he's about to eat a LOT of damage.

[@xiaokong9920]

You forgot one point, it's true that TFs did better but they had a material to follow, they know what will happen, the path they will follow. They hava databooks, interviews and everything that Akira did not thought or forget to put in the show. That is why TFs did so much better in context of plot, they already had every information, they know the path it will follow.

[@sikerow3180]

He did mention that

[@broken120z]

I can't belive it that you just said that TFS did it better than Akira Toriyama. The man who drawn Dragon Ball.

[@HeinerGunnar]

Soooo you didn't finish watching this video?

[@Igneeka]

He's states it briefly at the end but I'll also add that even more of the work cut out for them, as you said they knew the plot in advance but when it comes to the choregraphy and directing it was all done for them (and honestly some of the edits they did from times to times looked really out of place, not that they were bad in concepts but they stuck out like a sore thumb with a few exceptions) That aside I wouldn't say DBZA is a nice substitution (and the OG Dragon Ball is a must watch before anything Z related) but it more than deserves a watch for sure (the one big thing I'll say is worst in DBZA however is Goku, because he started out as a one-dimensional smooth brain for parody purposes and lacked the focus they put in other characters, it really hurt the story when they tried to be less of a parody and more of a retelling with some jokes in season 3)

[@emusaurus]

Sometimes having a set path to follow makes it more difficult

[@TatsurouKaos]

You missed my favorite - and what I think, best - change they made, though you might have deliberately not touched on it since it's in THE finale. One of the pivotal end moments of the Cell saga is the Father/Son Kamehameha, which finishes off Cell. In the original, everyone fires energy at Cell from other angles to distract him and weaken his concentration, thus allowing Gohan's Kamehameha - amplified by Goku sending him energy from Otherworld - to destroy the evil bug man. In Abridged, however, two major differences. One, the big one, Goku sends no energy, and his pep talk is about how Gohan alone can step up and take Cell, standing on his own two feet...which REALLY shows the 'passing of the torch' that part was meant to be. Second, ONLY Vegeta throws energy to distract Cell, which shows both part of his growth (willing to be an aid to someone else's victory, and his grief over Trunks) and the difference in how they've established everyone's strength.

[@DagarMan0]

Actually, the scene where everyone helps Gohan is anime exclusive, which is probably the reason why they didn't add it

[@kash7449]

And then he made goku the protagonist again

[@Talyrion]

That's... not so much a change as a return to the manga. In it, Vegeta is indeed the only one to attack, and at no point is Goku implied to give Gohan extra energy beside motivational one.

[@brito7175]

EAT THAT HORSE !!!!!!!!!

[@FenrirWolf42]

The other big change TFS made to that scene was to have Gohan decide to start the final Kamehameha on his own, and Goku comes in later to help and encourage him. Whereas the original anime has him paralyzed with indecision until Goku speaks with him and gets him to do it.

[@grantohlund7350]

TFS has basically an editor's freedom while knowing the entirety of the plot prior to bringing it to life. Akira went more by the seat of his pants, but did a well enough job to keep us interested.

[@prometheus5218]

Meanwhile all this abridged videos are indangered and for every episode you increase your risk for getting sued because they are scared to loose content, while destroying people's interest because they are scared to loose content. Thank you toriyama

[@therighteously8454]

@@prometheus5218 You realize Toriyama isn't the one copyright claiming them, right? I mean, it's not as if Toei animation holds the copyright to the Dragon Ball anime and merchandise.

[@prometheus5218]

@@therighteously8454 r/whooosh

[@therighteously8454]

@@prometheus5218 r/fuckoff

[@EditDeath]

One of my favorite changes has to be Android 16's speech to Gohan. THE DBZA version completely flipped the script, becoming a statement to man up from a fellow gentle soul that really helped to highlight both the weight of Gohan's responsibilities in fighting Cell and the consequences of not trying. It just made so much more sense to me than the canon version.

[@nobodyasked3937]

“Hello Earthling how’s that GAPPING CHEST WOUND” “JUST FINE *How’s your spine* “

[@sidjr98]

“…….I’m going to give you a *five* minute headstart.”

[@nobodyasked3937]

@@sidjr98 “Thank you I’m going to need it your very fast”

[@GrindbIast]

One of my favourite bits of clever humor: Goku: How did you.... Cell after regenerating from Gokus Kamehameha: You weren't here for this but TLDR? Piccolos cells. Piccolo: Okay I am.....90% sure I can't do that. Cell: We'll figure THAT out later Loved it :D

[@Nyzer_]

Yeah, it makes Cell's survivability less BS if even he doesn't understand it, rather than if we get a flawed explanation for it.

[@RandomCorvid]

@@Nyzer_ the Joke is that they did figure it out later, it's the explanation he gives after he kills Trunks.

[@emisor9272]

@@RandomCorvid I don't think that was foreshadowing. Cell was implying that he was going to do the same to Piccolo (destroy his top half) when his turn came in the tournament

[@pleaseendme69]

Also semi-perfect cell saw piccolo wash up to shore after he blew a hole in piccolo's chest and said "how is he still alive? How durable is he? ... How durable am I? ... Questions for later"

[@VampireObssessed]

To me, the best bits of clever writing are the ones like Vegeta: Why don't you come over here and say that to my face! 16: I'm a head Vegeta: Then how about you stop while you are! And there's a really good one like that that Krillin says, but I can't think of it right now for some reason

[@SimplyPlatano]

My favorite change is Piccolo having Kami and Nail in his head

[@LuckiSir]

It was one of the best changes for him honestly.

[@RiMa-hi6uz]

Yeah it made him interesting

[@waynebehrens64]

Yep

[@wyvvernstone]

It's even funnier when you notice that Kami(god), Nail(jesus), Piccolo(holy spirit) share one body

[@peynnep6483]

XD :D

[@DAKmyname]

"GOHAN BECOMES STRONGEST IN THE UNIVERSE AND STILL DOESNT DO CRAAAP"

[@perfumedgnat9659]

Good old Freeza Planet 419

[@four8865]

Nobody ever goes to Freeza Planet 419.

[@phoebusapollo8365]

@@four8865 not since it’s species miraculously repopulated.

[@four8865]

@@phoebusapollo8365 It's unfortunate, I heard the planet exploded due to a stray energy blast..

[@InfiniteCheeseCrates]

DBZA got rid of 130 episodes worth of filler and actually made the show watchable by doing so. Plus the writing, editing and voice acting is superb.

[@-Zikade-]

This. DBZA's pacing is _way_ better. In the og show scenes are padded with so much filler that sometimes almost nothing happens during an episode. Cell games saga took freaking 29 episodes (16 in Kai for perspective).

[@realJoeMavro]

DBZ Abridged...it's a hilarious parody, a clever critique, and loving tribute all-in-one.

[@Gyrbae]

TFS is the only team that does it well, everyone else are just swearing unnecessarily with bad voice acting. It's like TFS is George Miller, and every other Abridged teams are Michael Bay.

[@ShadeSlayer1911]

I think BlazingAzureCrow does pretty well with their stuff. Their Digimon Tri Abridged series, I enjoy it almost as much as I enjoy DBZA. And Unlimited Blade Works Abridged was also good.

[@a-drewg1716]

SWE (Something Witty Entertainment) and TFS are hands down the two best groups out there who do abridges as they handle their shows like they are actual shows (now sure there are probably other good groups out there and TFS and SWE are not the only ones but they are 2 of the best and most well known.

[@narutouzumakiandnatsu5024]

"Vegeta what does the scouter say about his power level?" "Its...its...1006" "1006?" "Wait Nappa i had the scouter up side down his power level is actually... 9001... Rar *Breaks scouter"

[@neoanimefreak_7606]

You left a bit out. After the "1006?" Vegeta: Yeah, go kick his ass" *Nappa getting pummeled* Vegeta: Wait a second..something's not right here"

[@nikoquesada9739]

@@neoanimefreak_7606 you missed a spot after the 1006 nappa says really and when he gets beat up he whattttttt I had it upside down

[@neoanimefreak_7606]

@@nikoquesada9739 XP

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

"Why do you sound so bored?!" "Because, Nappa, he's not a threat--" "Vegeta!" "To me."

[@hanezutchins2786]

"9 minutes, 18 seconds"

[@neenee1257]

I believe you misunderstood that part about Android 16's backstory. Gero didn't take his son and turn him into 16, his son died (probably by Goku's hand) and Gero build an android to look like him. We know 16 is purely mechanical because Cell couldn't absorb him, he wasn't based on a human like the others.

[@sonzombie5779]

Apparently he was shot and killed during a battle. I think he was dead before goku destroyed the red ribbon army.

[@pokesonav]

Master Zombie, That doesn't matter at all. This is an abridged series, they can do whatever.

[@Sperium3000]

No in the video you can hear Goku screaming in the backgroud.

[@sonzombie5779]

@@Sperium3000 no in the actual series not the abriged

[@tiagodarkpeasant]

i dont even remember if he had a backstory in the original, for me he was just a reference to terminator

[@ResinUdongeInaba]

What I like the most is when Gohan saved Vegeta from Cell near the end and everyone’s reaction was “really? To Vegeta?” It was funny, but it also helped the next scene where he says sorry.

[@BlueClefto]

Cooler: kill the bald one Krillin: Frieza did it.

[@Garrulous64]

That bit with Android 16's past was a lot better imo. Before it was just Gero being upset that the army lost a fight

[@Garrulous64]

@Wayne Cox i'm aware.

[@Vellione]

His son lost his life in a fight for the red ribbon army. So when Goku destroyed them, he felt like his sons death was for nothing.

[@Garrulous64]

@@Vellione They don't talk about that in the anime though.

[@Vellione]

No, no they didn´t. I have read it on the wiki but can´t find the source of the story how Dr. Geros son died. The only thing i found out now is that in one way or another Android 21 (from a DBZ game) is Android 16´s mom.

[@tkn2863]

What eps was that? I’ve watched every episode(least I thought I did) and I don’t ever remember seeing that

[@neoanimefreak_7606]

Piccolo: What? You want me to make you a gi like your dads?" Gohan: Actually, I was wondering if I could have one..like..yours?" Piccolo: Oh =o" Nail: Did our heart just skip a beat?!" Kami: That is precious"

[@sin978]

Piccolo: shut the f*ck up!

[@neoanimefreak_7606]

@@sin978 XP

[@KaiHarper89]

CLOTHES BEAM!