DISCALIMER: I do not hate Teamfourstar nor do I think Goku is father of the of year, I just don't like how their fanbase takes a flanderized version of the story and uses it as canon evidence.
@samuelbrown12833 ай бұрын
That gets me mad because I watched Abridged, but this isn't canon! The episodes even say how it's a FAN PARODY! Which means that Abridged is basically dbz but a bit drunk/funny. It's not the actual dragon ball and goku is not a bad dad
@EnderGoku90012 ай бұрын
Yeah it gets annoying quick
@crashtime34292 ай бұрын
yeah people see tfs, laugh at it, call it BETTER DBZ, and then use it to justify why Goku is a bad father (he isn't). Goku is actually one of the best fathers given his environment and how he was raised.
@Randomergoesbrrrr2 ай бұрын
As a DBZA fan I apologize for the dumbasses that take it as canon And yes they are dumb I said what I said But Jeice is from space Australia
@Chriso222 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree teamfour fanbase is was a little funny at first but now it's just annoying
@theoverseer17753 ай бұрын
TFS: This is a PARODY, go support the official release. DB "Fans": That sign won't stop me, because I can't read!
@bestplayerofalltime1053 ай бұрын
At this point every single DB fan should be forced to take a reading test
@SabaClayMateSaba2 ай бұрын
pull a boondocks on them and force em to read
@Officer_Balls9992 ай бұрын
Literally every fanbase.
@samuelbrown12832 ай бұрын
@@theoverseer1775 HOW DID THEY MISS THAT!!!!
@napalmblaziken3 ай бұрын
I love DBZA, but I do think it had a negative effect on the fandom. Which by no means was TeamFourStar's intent. They just wanted to make a funny show about something they love.
@Brasswendigo3 ай бұрын
Only the fans without sensible intelligence that haven't seen the show in full.
@samuelbrown12833 ай бұрын
DBZA is a fan parody, it says so at the very start of every episode, how have people missed that?
@trevhart21242 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say that. You'd think people would just go back and watch the original anime. Or at least remember that Goku raised and was with Gohan any chance he had...Save for when he was on Yardrat, but he came back.
@borjaarellano99663 ай бұрын
sometimes,dbza fans make me wish that abridged didn't exist
@gumballsreturn2 ай бұрын
Same, and it sucks cause dbz abridged is awesome
@Mr_GSD3 ай бұрын
Goku is 23-24 at the start of Z, he was a teen when he and Chi-Chi had Gohan. Then fucking dies at 24 at the latest fighting his alien brother while also finding out he is a alien. The reincarnation of Demon King kidnapped his son, nearly kills the kid if it wasn't for him being half alien. Then goes through LITERAL HELL and back, comes back to life to fight two more aliens. Nearly all of his friends and allies fucking die fighting them. He nearly dies and ends in a coma. While two of his surviving friends take his 6 year old at the latest son to another planet to bring their friends back. Of course he then come back to fight even stronger aliens and a planet destroying dictator TWICE. Then finally gets to chill but at this point Gohan was already fucked, this kid has seen so many people die and beat nearly to death a handful a times, all because of Raditz coming to Earth and Krillin and Bulma take him to space. BUT STILL SOMEHOW IT'S GOKU'S FAULT EVEN THOUGH HE WAS EITHER DEAD OR IN A COMA.
@crashtime34292 ай бұрын
no, Gohan was 4 (manga) to 5 (anime) in the namek arc. That shits insane.
@jackofalltrades4173 ай бұрын
And yet Piccolo, the guy who kidnapped a 5 year old Gohan and left him in the wilderness for 6 months, is his "real father".
@thegungerbrospodcast76712 ай бұрын
Don't forget purposefully putting Pan in Danger so he could force Gohan to keep training in DBS SH. The same Piccolo who was on Goku's ass for making Gohan fight Cell when Gohan was the only one capable of killing Cell. Atleast Goku's plan made sense, because Piccolo did not know Gohan had his Beast form at all and just winged it the whole time lol. I love Piccolo but man's is a big hypocrite and ain't nowhere near a better "father" than Goku.
@jojonono26793 ай бұрын
Goku isn't a perfect father, but isn't abusive or evil like a lot of people seem to think.
@ThorDude3 ай бұрын
A lot of people saw the intentionally flanderized version of Goku, and perhaps because of the memorability of the abridged series, replaced that version of Goku with the real one. Also we know that Dragon Ball fans aren't exactly known to be smart.
@Officer_Balls9992 ай бұрын
He's a better father than Peter Griffin, Stan Smith and Homer Simpson.
@Shellshock393 ай бұрын
Some people in this fandom forget the fact that DBZA is a PARODY. Meaning every character's main trait is dialed up to 11 for comedic effect. Goku's idiocy, Gohan being a bookworm, Vegeta wearing his insecurities on his sleaves, etc. They have a disclaimer at the beginning of every episode. Oh wait, I forgot. Dragon Ball fans can't read.
@nora-yc6fi3 ай бұрын
This and with so many other things that were already stupid jokes or misconceptions that TFS made worse by putting them at the forefront of their show Do NOT get me started on Yamcha
@dylxn_cxle3 ай бұрын
Get started on Yamcha 🍿😃
@JayJay_Thirteen3 ай бұрын
Some people don’t understand that the whole “Goku is a terrible father” is just a joke/meme. Goku is actually a good dad, like not a lot of dads can say that they died twice for their son.
@naterksmr3 ай бұрын
What a horrible father! He didn't spend time with his son. And his only excuse was that he was dead? Talk about a... dead-beat dad!
@ashuraomega10002 ай бұрын
DBZA fans are the reason the "Dragon Ball fans don't watch their own show" memes exist
@yoshidaaimi342 ай бұрын
One of the thing I severely hate about Dragon Ball "fans" By all means, enjoy DBZA, it's a fun and funny parody of dragon ball Z, but some people legit take it as canon because "hur durr funni" and while it does improve upon things, there are impressions like "goku is a bad father" that will forever leave a bad taste in my mouth.
@Rosie_macaroni2 ай бұрын
i used to think goku was a bad father but now i just realize that the show just doesnt show it. the 3 year training arc for the androids was basically time skipped. thats why i appreciate that they finally realized how that warps the perception of goku for the audience and showed not just the training parts in the time chamber but also the father son moments. the filler arc that showed the 10 days before the cell games also helped for the anime watchers. but thats sooooo many episodes in, that people started to notice how little time they spend together. gokus not a bad father but you could get the impression he is
@meloneatingwolf18823 ай бұрын
Goku’s only real bad moments was refusing the wish to earth and giving Cell a senzu bean. Most of his absences was because he was dead, injured or busy.
@inkchariot61472 ай бұрын
Goku refusing the wish to send him back to Earth was entirely beneficial. He wouldn't have learned Instant Transmission then. Goku knows Gohan's strength more than anyone, he saw him become Super Saiyan 2 for a brief moment and had nothing to worry about. Goku did become overconfident, though.
@meloneatingwolf18822 ай бұрын
@@inkchariot6147 true, but he also left Vegeta completely unaccounted for. Besides Goku and Frieza, Vegeta was the most powerful person on Earth, which now had Dragon Balls. It’s a miracle Vegeta didn’t try to recreate the Saiyan Saga. While Trunks wasn’t needed for Mecha Frieza as he apparently wasn’t much of a problem in the future timeline if Goku was able to return in time, it’s another miracle it wasn’t another final form Frieza situation. As for Gohan, his plan was calculated, but it wasn’t a plan Gohan knew, and at least should have made him aware that he may have been needed. However, like Piccolo training Gohan, relying on him was a necessary evil, but the senzu bean wasn’t necessary and just made things worse. Though granted, Goku at least realised this and tried to fight Cell again.
@robo-nidai42363 ай бұрын
I'm not the biggest DBZ fan. And Goku wasn't the best father (hell, half the time he was dead during Gohan's life), but it's not like he does it intentionally. He seriously thought about others and how to keep them safe if they can't fight back. Which just makes his characterization in Super all the more baffling. Yeah, he was stupid in OG Dragonball. But that was a result of him spending his life completely in isolation with Grandpa Gohan until Bulma showed up. Super was supposed to take place after Z, yet he sank to levels even kid Goku didn't go to. Sorry for the rant. But god Super sucked and sure as hell didn't straighten the perception DBZA fans had that Goku was a bad father.
@d4c1vtn982 ай бұрын
Hmm... Their channel name is really fitting right now isn't it?
@RazorClaw462 ай бұрын
Two types of fans: "Frauds and All Knowing".
@radio73533 ай бұрын
i say goku is a terrible father not because i think its true but because its really, really funny
@Buster843 ай бұрын
People need to understand Abridged is a PARODY and thinking the characters are actually like that
@phromkatv3 ай бұрын
Don't fuck with Dragon Ball fans, they never watch the show they're fan of
@N_DAnimationEnthusiast2 ай бұрын
Anime fans not watching anime. More @ 11.
@RazorClaw462 ай бұрын
Social Media are full of frauds.
@funnyguy42172 ай бұрын
0:06 "he is a terible father"
@gamezonez92333 ай бұрын
Goku is actually awesome dad ,he just kinda stupid...
@test-ot1fz2 ай бұрын
Me seeing a dbza quote for the millionth time under a dbz video that has nothing to do with abridged
@d4c1vtn9816 күн бұрын
It actually fits here cuz at the time they made this video they have only seen abridged. So pfft.
@SabaClayMateSaba2 ай бұрын
apparently sacrificing your life, TWICE for your son is a sign of bad parenting. but some rando kidnapping your child? nah, that’s not sus, he’s cool so he gets the pass.
@jtsmith181717 күн бұрын
Imma say this: While TFS didn’t really start the whole “b-B-bUt gOkU’s a bAd fAtHeR” Slander (In which don’t even get me started on some Fans even saying that “Vegeta’s a Better Father” - I dare to anyone who thinks that way and is also reading this, give me a Full-Detailed Explanation on exactly How Can Someone Verbally-Abuse their Kid Be Considered a Good Father), they definitely made it worse. - Unintentionally, in that matter.
@PlasmaStar873 ай бұрын
Don’t get me wrong. I love DBZA It’s what got me into official dragon Ball series but I do not believe in the whole “Goku is a bad father” argument
@ataladin872 ай бұрын
Absolutely HATE the cancer DBZ-Abridged is
@d4c1vtn9816 күн бұрын
It isn't DBZA'S fault entirely they just unfortunately gave the part of the fandom that thinks Goku is a horrendous father the confidence to be louder.
@ataladin8715 күн бұрын
@d4c1vtn98 then it *_"IS"_* their fault
@d4c1vtn9815 күн бұрын
@@ataladin87 teamfourstar only wanted one thing to come out of abridged. People to have a good laugh. That's all they wanted, they've explicitly stated at the beginning of every episode that it is a parody but they can't control anyone and some people just took the jokes and ran with them as canonical fact. That's not their fault. They may have given unintentional ammunition to the ones who've already believed Goku is a horrendous father, they just thought the idea of joking around about it was a good idea and didn't think anything past that. But it isn't their fault for the ones who haven't watched Dragon ball and took the jokes as canonical fact. I think anyone with two brain cells can see "Goku is a bad dad" wasn't an agenda they were trying to push and it was just a joke. But this is the dragon ball fandom, either they are illiterate or they are the most knowledgeable people on this franchise, no in between.
@bvdf843 ай бұрын
The fans are very insufferable however i will always prefer the voice work of the TFS team over the official ones
@knightfallprotocol3 ай бұрын
@@bvdf84 good for you I guess
@frankie_subs91293 ай бұрын
Yea piccolo real dad
@shockhedgehog47713 ай бұрын
💀
@davidvasquez083 ай бұрын
@@shockhedgehog4771don’t argue with him, he has the Shaggy UI as his pfp, basically he stupid