if I lost a roll on a bis item to the guild enchanter i would gquit on the spot
@Tobeh2 жыл бұрын
But think of the teams enchants!
@ToadstedCroaks2 жыл бұрын
@@Tobeh Not the good enchants though, that would be elitist.
@YukariV2 жыл бұрын
Hihi Preach, author here! ♥♥♥ I wanna thank you for reading out the story on stream, it's a little bit surreal, as I didn't think it'd actually happen! ^^ I wanted to answer a couple things that came up during the reading of the story, just to give you an extra taste of the story~ Why didn't I leave sooner? I was dumb and guilty as heck. Yes, we had exactly 20 members, no more, no less, so every single absence did usually stop us from doing progression for the night. Several of our prog kills on easier bosses were routinely done with 19 members, and interestingly, some of our best raid nights were when our GM was absent, even though we had to raid with 18, as pugs had to be approved by the GM before being invited, and we had enough whistleblowers that we couldn't do it under the radar. During our monthly guild meetings, which I really should've gone into more detail about. We would go to specific locations in game, usually the little picnic area in Dalaran, and would have to afk there for 2 hours during the meeting. We would have certain raid members act as "speakers" who would talk about our progress that month, our plans moving forward, and would give encouraging messages. It took forever because each speaker had an introduction along the lines of: "I'd like to call out a specific member to come speak for you, they've been in the guild for a long time as a core member of the team..." and the GM had an introduction for each speaker, and each meeting we'd have 2-3 speakers, usually the role officers. Interestingly, two hours was hardly enough, and we'd constantly go onto nearly 3 hours routinely. We did actually manage to get past sisters in ToS, somehow, the reason why we couldn't do desolate host was because our raid leader and GM didn't like the normal strategy for the fight, and insisted on doing the fight "our way," (read: his way) which stopped us from actually progging past it. The GM used to cite one victory of his during WoD where he came up with a supposedly better from for one of the bosses there as a reason why he always insisted his way was better... About me being prohibited from speaking with the GM's wife: the reason it had barely any context or explanation was because I had barely any context myself. The night was quite odd, as his wife and I had quite a pleasant and nice conversation, and nothing seemed to rub her the wrong way or anything. I assume the GM just flipped out, as he was obviously a massive control freak, and he and I didn't seem to get along anyway. I don't want to comment of their relationship, but he did a lot of suspect things in general. And given the way he treated our offtank, I can't imagine things were the most comfortable there... >.> Also, about my parents, mental state, etc... I decided not to go into the deep details because I feel like it wasn't appropriate to the show. However, over my time in mental health treatments, medication, learning to be a stronger person, dealing with my symptoms, I've since become a significantly better person, and I'm glad to have finally put all my problems behind me. Though, they're, of course, still a part of me, and I keep them close as a symbol of strength, y'know. But please don't worry about me, I have lots of friends and more than enough support structures in my life to keep me safe and happy!!!! And I've since made up with my parents, and there are no hard feelings between us! It actually took a second hospitalization that I didn't mention, but they've finally come to respect me ^^ If anyone has like, more questions about stuff, feel free to ask! ILY all! ♥♥♥♥♥
@oddi38632 жыл бұрын
Hey, Yukari, you commented this twice.
@YukariV2 жыл бұрын
@@oddi3863 RIP, youtube stimky
@Kalgert2 жыл бұрын
It was an interesting story to hear, and I have to admit, I got a bit curious about the streaming you do mentioned in the story. And hopefully you're having a good time away from such... Crazy things happening.
@sere9712 жыл бұрын
It's great to hear that things have a seemingly happy ending-- or at least are in a better state now. As far as getting away from abusive situations and people goes, it's better late than never. Hope things continue going well and GL in FF14 with avoiding these sorts of people! I recognize some of the traits of your former GM in one of my own former GMs, and it's worrying how hard it can be to spot toxic control freaks and realize what they're doing until it's too late/it's already in the past.
@dwaynehusbands69602 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're OK and wish you the best! would love to catch your stream sometime
@HoustonRay2 жыл бұрын
Completely lost my shit when, after several painful minutes of Preach describing the most convoluted loot system I've heard of in my life, it ended with, "...additionally, any roll can be overwritten by a member of the Loot Council."
@Nr47472 жыл бұрын
Bonus point for: The GM is the *only* member of the loot council xD
@shirox112 жыл бұрын
Geez that story man. Every time i see stories like that i feel I really lucked out in having such great supportive parents. The way some people treat there kids like garbage is just heartbreaking.
@MrTalicor2 жыл бұрын
“Endwalker queues are dying down” says the Video i’m watching while waiting in queue for endwalker
@sleepypanda36942 жыл бұрын
Watching 4 days later in which the game crashed (for many, many ppl all at once) today, and they announced a temporary suspension on selling any more games (digital + hard copy), most advertisements, and new free accounts. Been a long week.
@stealthington2 жыл бұрын
8 days later and likewise, started watching in a queue of a few thousand.
@Tobeh2 жыл бұрын
Just in reference to the thumbnail, I had cut the end of my thumb off in a work accident and was in the hospital all afternoon. I went home instead of going to the pharmacy to get my pain meds since they shot me up with a lot of painkillers and felt fine and figured I could grab them later. It honestly didn’t hurt much when I did it too so I didn’t think it would be that bad. In the middle of Sindragosa heroic prog the meds start to wear off and 25 minutes later I was drooling and unable to bring my head upright off of my shoulder due to the pain. I speak up on voice coms and say “I’m really sorry, I know we have another hour until we call it but I cut the end of my thumb off today, the meds wore off, and it hurts so bad I can’t see straight, that’s why I’m getting killed by this stuff now.” And my team just threw their hands up and were like “fuck that get the fuck out of here go get your damn meds holy shit”. Cleared it the next raid 👍
@blubblubwhat2 жыл бұрын
for once the normal reaction u would wxpect not that crazy dramatime shit^^
@cas63822 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've been in some crap guilds when I was younger but even at their worst if there was some health issues that resulted in someone missing or leaving early it wasn't an issue because they were at least halfway decent human beings like wtf
@crimsonwizahd23582 жыл бұрын
Well I hope the doctors were able to save the end of your thumb, lol. In all seriousness, no idea how long ago this was, but still hoping no further issues came up after that.
@al44tec2 жыл бұрын
That time when you are spam watching drama time and a new one shows up. Glorious
@Vendacator2 жыл бұрын
Glorious indeed
@Phleshhh2 жыл бұрын
Praise the purpose
@Frerrva2 жыл бұрын
Me every monday
@alyssumn38842 жыл бұрын
Best time
@phillipsherbrook51792 жыл бұрын
Nice. Been there too
@MrPlow-jc4cr2 жыл бұрын
I feel like that GM read "Animal Farm" and decided that would make for a pretty good loot system
@NoobLord90012 жыл бұрын
1:03:25 Okay, yeah no, I don't care how fucking old the author of this story is. The "parents" should be looking at jail time for pushing their kid to the point of needing to be committed.
@BlueWoWTaylan2 жыл бұрын
They are not 'parents'. They are fucking monsters.
@NoobLord90012 жыл бұрын
@@BlueWoWTaylan good point
@BruceWillis572 жыл бұрын
Aight I’m convinced this ridiculous loot system is the exact reason Blizzard took away ML
@Kitsune100602 жыл бұрын
" you and your chat might have noticed some problems with the loot system" I pose this question. HOW DID THEY STILL HAVE A RAID TEAM WITH THIS SYSTEM?!?! If it was me, the SECOND I heard those loot rules explained, assuming every other red flag did cause me to fling myself out the nearest window. open or other wise, this stupidity would have 110% cause me to bolt. I've seen a lot of Drama Time nightmare loot systems in the short-ish time I've been here but holy fucking shit. This is some next level 'bad loot rules' fuckery right here.
@distantraven25662 жыл бұрын
"he was the main tank, gm, loot master..." Oh I'm about to.. "...and his wife was the healer". BINGO that's what I come back here for yahuu!
@chilliewhk2 жыл бұрын
We really couldn't have hoped for a better combination lmao
@braidenbannister38772 жыл бұрын
lol IMAGINE your BiS drops from mythic raid and they fucking disenchant it.
@Hekk.2 жыл бұрын
Screw people over loot for couple tiers -> get mad because people don't care about joining farm raids, how typical.
@fyngolnoldor48912 жыл бұрын
Love these stories but what mystifies me is why people put up with this bs for so long. Especially since you had a core group of like-minded and capable players in your own clique Discord. Just take that and flesh it out to your own guild and leave the crazy "we are a team and as a team I decide everything" people behind.
@Scruffed2 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of it comes down to some people thinking that their current guild is the entire game for them. They might have a notion that other guilds exist (and sometimes there's an assumption that those other guilds are worse or the same), but there are many that get overwhelmed just by the thought of joining a new guild and meeting a whole new set of people. I've been in several dead or dying guilds over the years, usually more than half of the members of those guilds would rather quit the game entirely than join a new guild.
@selyuna73332 жыл бұрын
yes this. I just recently got out of shitty guild in tbc and it feels like I was in stockholm syndrome. Even getting screwed over with loot etc, you think you gonna start another trial period and its "known evil vs evil unknown". Wish I resigned after 2 first trial raids and maybe next time I land in shit guild I will.
@fyngolnoldor48912 жыл бұрын
@@Scruffed This is so strange to me. To be fair I've never played WOW but other MMOs, for instance SWTOR which pretty much cloned a bunch of WOW classes and systems and labeled them as Star Wars characters. In SWTOR I must have like 16 characters and each of them is in a different guild, some more active, some dead, some actively raiding, some not. It's not just me either, it feels like the whole raiding community is intertwined like that throughout the game. This is why I'm so puzzled by this phenomenon of people equating the game with their one guild.
@DivinitasJanus2 жыл бұрын
I want some of these loot rules in excel, clearly broken down, on a small poster I can hang under one of Vaas with the quote "Do you know the definition of "Insanity"?"
@Tyrvox2 жыл бұрын
I don't have two hour meetings for work, no matter the situation. Almost anything that takes more than thirty minutes people are wasting time or not prepared.
@marcbisson93512 жыл бұрын
Preach, I had to Google ‘uwu voice’ thanks to this video. I hope you’re happy. Are you happy now!?
@Scoobadoob2 жыл бұрын
I hope you did that incognito mode. Nothing worse than looking up shit you never want to run into online again on your own profile and getting served more of it in your recommended lists and such.
@magdabrownis2652 жыл бұрын
I just tell my wife I already got everything I wanted when she married me😂
@TQV32 жыл бұрын
this story would've lasted anywhere from like 10/30 mins if the author just left as soon as the guild started blithering on about the team bullshit, never mind seeing their hilariously asinine loot rules in in action. i would've been out the door so quick it would've looked like i was being chased by cops.
@jereXIX2 жыл бұрын
You know that scene in “Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back” when they find ppl who’ve trolled them online, knock on the door, and kick the shit out of them when they answer? That’s the treatment Wazim deserves.
@hickknight2 жыл бұрын
This was entertaining, even if I've never played WoW in my life, I did understand what was going on. My god, I'm happy that the person ended up in better place of sorts. Especially when it came to the parents, sheesh.
@michu0702 жыл бұрын
blizz heard about this loot system and ruined master looter for everyone
@draken4o2 жыл бұрын
And then we wonder why we are forced to use personal loot..... I feel sorry for her wasting all those years in this absurd guild. Missing the actual chance to achiev her desire to be CE raider. Also very sorry for the shit parent situation :(
@Terrabreak1332 жыл бұрын
Love how at some point they were collecting loot penalties like they were pokemon.
@dutchassassin68422 жыл бұрын
Listening to this story makes me so angry that I wanted to throw something.
@Theaikro2 жыл бұрын
amazing how much shit people can take on an online game 🤔
@drathmardarkstar79112 жыл бұрын
I mean... Your off-tank wanting to be a guardian druid in EN is 100% a legit reason to burn the guild to the ground
@robertvries12 жыл бұрын
Preach, your story telling skills are so nice man. You really add to the story, cheers.
@dragonseth072 жыл бұрын
"Ran the guild with his wife" I think I got a bingo!
@sethlarson54292 жыл бұрын
This is pretty gutting to listen to as a parent. Great story but damn author got a raw deal at home.
@Davivd22 жыл бұрын
The spread sheet for the loot rules is almost as complicated as Blizzard's chart for the titans, the old gods, the Naru, the void lords, and the first ones.
@moosewerk3562 жыл бұрын
That GM: "you might think this is a picture of my family. Wrong! It's the A-team. Bodie, Doyle, Tiger, the Jewelry Man!"
@bobjones-wt2mk2 жыл бұрын
"Here at drama time we have heard about all the systems" A few moments later "WHAT? WHY? WHY!?! WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT!?!?!?!"
@renediffie2 жыл бұрын
Does everyone writing into Drama-time suffer from severe Stockholm syndrome? Why would anyone stay in such a terrible situation? That being said I hope that the author is doing well today.
@quatsquat4242 жыл бұрын
-1/10 parenting
@danedavid69252 жыл бұрын
Holy shit one story for an hour and 30 mins???
@hkr6672 жыл бұрын
turned out to be worth every minute
@obamanizer14632 жыл бұрын
Hard-core parents sound like old-school Asians. Need insane grades and no fun at any time
@bry88902 жыл бұрын
"We do not believe in benching" Hell what could go wrong lol
@Sephvion2 жыл бұрын
What awful parents.
@cci94592 жыл бұрын
Imagine giving birth to a child....only to force that child into an early grave just for perfect grades....fucking hell some people dont deserve to be called parents.
@nighteyeswolf2 жыл бұрын
I mean, think of allllll the money parents put into rearing and raising a spawn and the least their spawn can do is get perfect grades, to get the perfect job, to start paying them back, then find the perfect mate, spawn more spawn, so they can dote upon them and treat them better than they treated their own spawn. They only want their dividends!!!!! ugh.....their parents make me sick. I have a friend or two who had similar upbringings and I'm so glad they were able to eventually give them the shake and free to be their own persons with relative happiness and success.
@EgaoKage2 жыл бұрын
The melee officer's 'table-flipping' retort is somewhat stymied by his willingness to write a resignation letter. I assume too, that he was offering to pen it by hand, as tables are a lot harder to flip when they have PCs and printers on them. And just think, back in the day, how hard it must have been to flip a table, with a 40 kilo cast-iron typewriter on it. 1:26:20 Which is why you _always_ need to *BURN IT TO THE GROUND.*
@MrThePrankstar2 жыл бұрын
Holy F .. What a tale. That is my second favorite drama time ever .. What a story. Best of luck to the author in the future.
@FFFpounder2 жыл бұрын
that was a beautiful story. many emotions, much love to the author.
@Haunsa12 жыл бұрын
not mythic guild till atleast half those bosses are dead on mythic.
@coendou0072 жыл бұрын
I have been in a guild where my girlfriend was the GM and I was the raid leader for YEARS..... we never had this... dafuq, we had a loot council for tier sets, which was set in place before the patch even started (per class, not per rank), and everything else was a roll, bis before regular. it's only come to problems once.
@ashleycotterell54192 жыл бұрын
I think it would be great content if they actually did create a flow chart of loot to show. This sounds worse than the raiding manifesto
@dwaynehusbands69602 жыл бұрын
Red flag? it's the fucking red sea
@selyuna73332 жыл бұрын
Why so many guild officers / raid leaders / gms are filled with toxic egos... asking for a friend
@Karnagie10 ай бұрын
tbh out of all the guild cliques to join, joining the parser group sounds like the LEAST fun
@cas63822 жыл бұрын
I always love hearing the darker but real stories of people that overcame or are working to overcome their hardships since as someone that's also had a really bad time with similar issues I find it very inspirational. I'm glad my life is finally getting better after so many years while this community has always been part of what's kept me grounded and moving forward each day. Love you guys
@voinyhelvetti Жыл бұрын
The loot system concept basically just sounds like an RNG roll weighted towards BiS. It's convoluted but there are way worse loot systems out there for gearing raids, like straight rolling. Aside from the fact that officers have super tiers for their rolls or that the loot council can just say "nope", obviously.
@kobwar2 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me witch episode had the pyramid scheme where you had to pay real money to raid and ranked up in the guild when you invested in new members and always bought there first peice of gear for them and the gm was playing as like all the officers?
@kobwar2 жыл бұрын
I've watched Drama time for years and by far my favorite storys were bojo and the pyramid sceme but i have binging relistening to them and even googling trying to find that episode please help SOMEBODY i need to hear that wondeful story once more!!!
@Officialwhoze8 ай бұрын
I was the #1 WW, 4.0 Student, created world peace, cured cancer, changed my voice to be deeper, won the big race at school, got a nobel peace prize, everyone clapped Some of these stories need to be vented better
@CrippledMerc2 жыл бұрын
I’ve turned down guilds who were desperately needing my class and role because of fucky loot systems like this. It never works out. All it does is funnel gear to the chosen few at the top while the rest of us are left scrounging for scraps while we struggle through content and get bitched at because we aren’t hitting the numbers they expect. I went though 2 fucky loot systems and told myself never again. It’s never worth it unless you’re one of the few in the clique at the top.
@dilsaw4977 Жыл бұрын
okay I haven't heard the first story but as a raid leader I have definitely had players who have pretended to either be in the hospital or gravely injured to excuse some kind of absence, and my reaction to hearing something like that has, to these specific people, been less than concerned.
@follettjerry2 жыл бұрын
FAKE NEWS! No channel of chicken memes named "cocks" but a hidden recruitment channel 🤨
@pswizzy26902 жыл бұрын
Keep these drama times going theyre amazing
@b82fn2 жыл бұрын
26:50 Computer says Nooo...
@alyssumn38842 жыл бұрын
"I dunt know what's going to happen" porn music ensues. No Q times still atrocious lol
@katepriest3462 жыл бұрын
That GM definitely works in HR
@RaysofLight982 жыл бұрын
WHY. THE F. DIDN’T THAT *GROUP* OF REASONABLE PEOPLE. JUST LEAVE?
@SovietxKitteh Жыл бұрын
It is like that x3 my parents yelled at me after sending me to a psyche ward for abuse
@Bodomi2 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for her. I can't fathom how some people can treat their children in that way, it makes me feel awful when I hear it.
@COREcasual Жыл бұрын
Do you have good logs? I have good logs. Only good logs here. Yup
@idr121 Жыл бұрын
Those loot rules sound completely demonic 😂😂😂
@thereasoner94542 жыл бұрын
OMG, I haven't been watching WoW content much here on KZbin lately. I must say Preach, your transplants look good. HOWEVER, at first glance, for just a fraction of a second, I thought Ion H. was hosting your Drama Time. Please don't send the thugs after me. I quickly realized MY mistake. I hope all is well with your family and friends.
@magdabrownis2652 жыл бұрын
Hospital? SOT though
@xtremefurrycat2 жыл бұрын
happy birthday
@thenerdbeast7375 Жыл бұрын
Parents are guilty too, they made shit worse.
@Dragito55555555555552 жыл бұрын
when are we changing the goldshire inn to a ff14 inn?
@Tobeh2 жыл бұрын
Just put a live feed of the Balmung quicksands
@zedorian65472 жыл бұрын
Or The Forgotten Knight would be a good backdrop
@Kalgert2 жыл бұрын
Somehow I expect thr NHS to work EXACTLY like this if it were to run a guild. Perhaps even worse
@Scoobadoob2 жыл бұрын
The queues are dying? They've steadily increased on my server here in NA. Not only have the queues gone up, but the speed at which the queue advances has slowed down.
@Amaterasu912 жыл бұрын
I've been watching your videos for years, I just realized I wasn't subscribed, now I feel bad haha
@Buergermeista65782 жыл бұрын
That was a legendary story!
@TheMeanAdmin2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, mate - when the loot rules started I decided that I can just wait for my EW queue in silence rather than start vomiting there and then ^^;
@dwaynehusbands69602 жыл бұрын
wtf what is this about accusations of preach?
@ClayRoks2 жыл бұрын
By that logic I'm a Mythic Raider because my guild could take down the elevator boss during the first rate of b f a
@Syke-vv4tj2 жыл бұрын
Shit starting to sound like a job
@dannyhudson7493 Жыл бұрын
Wait sometimes people stop dosing?????
@algiux1122 жыл бұрын
How does these guilds exist? It's like a fucking darkweb for me....
@wolfulf33392 жыл бұрын
the baning of games in my house hold was the worst thing that ever happend . i failed at shcool and got an evn bigger adiction to games .
@johnnywatkins2 жыл бұрын
How do send a story in to drama time?
@SinergyGaming2 жыл бұрын
Story is so good
@MisterFarce2 жыл бұрын
Imagine gearing your raid by not giving them gear. Phenomenal strategy.
@hub19862 жыл бұрын
Great story lol wtf is that guild haha cannot wait for SB vods GG
@williamprior78312 жыл бұрын
Social guild? Social raid
@hellrazzor49412 жыл бұрын
Mmmmmmmm i like bananas.
@laurachild62442 жыл бұрын
Who though you’d have Ponzi schemes in gaming
@alext54972 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the guild was run by asmongold
@woodjt52 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen Preach in a while. Hair looks great.
@midv4lley2 жыл бұрын
top tier episode
@oscarakerblom89582 жыл бұрын
I beg you preacher, never stop doing these.
@brandemreyes4562 жыл бұрын
ayoko sayo
@hamedmoosaei92882 жыл бұрын
nice
@juros15452 жыл бұрын
gingi dropping in the 13 months at 4:17 :D
@dwaynehusbands69602 жыл бұрын
also the OP was never an elitist!!
@dwaynehusbands69602 жыл бұрын
wish I was friends with the OP they sound awesome!