Drama Time - Shortest Raiding Career Of My Life

Today's episode has 3 stories:
04:00 - Response from 'I Am Not A Meme'
07:30 - That Time I Screwed My GM Out Of Frostmourne
32:00 - Shortest Raiding Career Of My Life
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[@Tobeh]

back in vanilla I remember this rando warlock who filled a missing spot in our mc->bwl raid who wasn't a part of our guild and had never raided before so he was super happy because he was literally getting any caster loot he wanted. the vent chat was just scattered conversations as we run down the chains and approach the entrance when the warlock attacks an alliance member near the door who bubble hearthed. he then proceeded to pierce the chatter with "haha, that bitch ran like a (racial epithet for african-americans!" in the most kkona voice followed by deafening silence, and "I'm.. I'm really sorry guys I-" and he was removed front vent and the group. never saw that guy on the server again. first raid and didn't even make it in the door

[@vipvip7]

I thought the Raiding story sounded familiar!! It was my old guild on Draenor EU. It's been confirmed by the person who sent it in! (After some searching for the person). My GM is in the process of writing a Drama time on his side of the situation and how it all happened. It's crazy that it's ended up here. I'm glad people found it funny.

[@denis_ds]

Was the story featured on drama time yet ?

[@jarlhenrik]

That "guild disband" into immediately forming a new guild to raid the same night is not impossible to believe. Literally happened to me 2 days before Nathria release. We went from a raid of 30 to 19, but we managed just fine.

[@BuzzzdLightyear]

Especially because all the other raiders were on the same page. Just cuz the GM lost his shit doesn't mean everyone else is gonna disappear forever.

[@tnaxpw]

We had like 40-50 pepes who wanted to do CN, so with a couple of new guys and older players in a guild, asked GM if we can do 2nd raid team, we got green light, drama started over canceling our green light and finally 30 players and over 120+ chars got kicked x) Now we have our own guild and recruit more and more local players everyday, with 8/10HC done and solid group formed, heck we even did 10 Ulduar TW runs the week it was up.

[@drateryako]

almost had the same situation with the guild im in. guild leader was going crazy and was going to gkick everyone and split the gold between the people he liked and reform it on another realm. Little did he realize that not a single person was going to go with him. we would have just reformed without him

[@lukewind13]

That second story was top teir gold, Great pick.

[@ZeepZerp]

I've only just gotten into Preach after Zepla pointed him out to me. I've now watched the majority of his journey through FF and thought "eh, I remember WoW, maybe this Drama time thing will be familiar". It's fantastic. It's certainly not just the stories. I'm familiar with all the drama tropes. But, Mike's reading of the stories is top notch.

[@dusk1947]

LOL, Gratz Chris. Also, Story #2 may be the my favorite story to date... Preach's reactions and the closing comments really made it for me.

[@bolton_notlob]

Great storytelling, didn't intend to watch the whole thing but this was brilliant. Had a good laugh, thanks!

[@moosewerk356]

This is what it's like when you find out you're not the main character of this anime.

[@grumpyoldwizard]

Thanks for DT. I need a laugh.

[@Karmolicious]

At 28minutes in. "Don't invite guidless legendaries." was a real thing lol. Someone having a legendary weapon but no guild probably meant: They felt it was OK to waste an entire guilds efforts and then just left or most likely: Someone with legendaries at the end of an expansion probably felt burnt out and done with the game. Probably sold their account off for literally hundreds of dollars. That's why someone would show up, entirely new, on a realm with the best gear. They would transfer to get a name change and so nobody on the realm would call you out & report your account. There's even someone famously doing this. The first person (only?) to get 3 legendaries. Some rogue back in BC with warglaives and the bow from sunwell.

[@ademord]

I’m laughing so hard at the last story omg

[@WozLee]

"This was not the Shadowlands experience I had imagined..." Laughing so hard I feel like I might need to take a PCR test.

[@Josh-mon]

Everytime I quit wow I start watch drama time.... and it keeps pulling me back in

[@ripple123]

I just quit wow recently again because I moved to horde and just couldn't find a guild to call home and just find shadowlands boring

[@Conorp77]

Drama time will always unite us. I mainly play Destiny 2 now but still the raiding and drama stories are so relatable.

[@tjbrody]

my guild leader is a wrath baby and possibly one of the best warlocks ive ever seen. theres a lot of arrogance in that frostmourne story.

[@EdNeaton]

Of course it's ridiculous... Look at the timeframes. People who played wrath in 2009 when Wrath came out who were already over 18 are now over thirty, and in all likelihood mature enough to not go writing drama time stories with a complete lack of self-awareness. A lot of the authors who bang on about wrath babies come over (to me) as people in their late teens/early 20s. Which would put them at 10-15 when Wrath was about. Which means they were, in all likelihood, a Wrath baby.

[@AirshipFury]

The shortest amount of time I've spent in a guild is around 15 mins. I joined, had a bit of bants, and logged off...for years. By the time I logged back on, the guild had already disbanded.

[@Conorp77]

Woah

[@russodoni5331]

In fairness to the meme hunter tho, imagine being in his guild and being out-dpsed by a meme spec.

[@MatthewHalinar]

LOL this is so true....Shame!

[@ToadstedCroaks]

Funny story ( Worthy of a Drama Time, but I'll do a very quick rundown TLDR and then a wall of text. ) ------------------- In TBC I swapped from healing to ret dps in the guild, got #1 on the dps charts the first night for our first Gruul kill, angered the officers / other dps, and probably contributed to the guild blowing up shortly afterwards. ------------------- I was in a TBC raiding guild that was doing pretty well. We started off mostly doing what all guilds did .. having a couple raid groups to do Kara for weeks and weeks until everyone was geared enough to start doing Mag / Gruul ..before we move into SSC / TK. Well, I joined as a holy paladin on the horde ( a fresh new hot commodity ), after having been alliance in Vanilla, and me and my gf at the time decided we needed a change after all that drama on a pvp server. So we jumped ship at TBC release and went to the new AUS servers ( since we were both night owls and this fit around my work schedule ). Anyway, disposition aside... I was basically the best healer in the guild, and only 1 of 2 paladins in the guild ( both healers, since at the time it was a joke that paladins did dps or tanked ). So for a long time, as we're doing great in Kara but struggling to do Gruul / Mag / SSC / TK, I'm healing and we're trying to figure out what the problem is in the guild ( we had terrible healers, and people could just NOT listen to simple instructions like "CC your designated target, and NOBODY ATTACK IT". /sigh Anyway, things are just grueling along ( puns ), and I'm just racking up DKP because I have all my gear from going to every raid there is, to make sure people are geared up, because we have a severe lack of healing in the guild. People are starting to complain, seeing that I have all this DKP saved up and I'm not spending it ( duh! ) ...and they're getting whispering in each other's ears about how I might "ninja" a really BiS item when it finally drops because I have the most DKP. Clearly, nobody is thinking about all the gear they are getting every raid ...and they're just entirely focused on who's at the top. So it finally comes to a head one raid, and there's a stop, where people just have to let it out asking what is the deal with me not spending my DKP. And I make clear and logical answer "Because I have nothing to spend it on, and I go on every single raid, unlike half the guild." That's not a good enough answer, they want me to spend the points on stuff that's not even an upgrade, just so I'm spending points. Not going to happen, I say, unless you're going to start letting me spend it on DPS gear that drops that isn't critical to someone. There's confusion, a lot of it, some laughs, and the Warrior officer not having any of that. So that gets benched for the night, but this doesn't go away. So between that night and the next one, there's a real bug up peoples asses about me, but at least some of the officers / GM are curious about why I would want dps gear to begin with. This is where, for those that remember, people didn't realize how useful ret paladins were in raids for mana sustain. I had to go over the math with the higher ups in the guild about it, that even if someone did half the damage of another dps in the raid, the combined buffs / etc. would have made up for it and then some. They didn't believe me, so I offered to show them in our next Gruul raid. With some hesitation, they agreed to trial run it. Come raid night, there was a lot of confusion ( and subsequently that night, a lot of shit healing ). I entered the raid with a myriad of purple and blue gear, basically some T4 pieces, Gorehowl, a couple heroic dungeon pieces, and whatever reputation gear I could fill in the rest of the slots. I definitely wouldn't look like I was anything but a joke, or a fresh 70 that had done 1 kara run and got thrown a bunch of excess gear. Regardless, that was part of the deal. So Counsel goes swimmingly bad, as usual, and I notice I'm not getting healed at all ( not surprising, since I've always had to heal myself in our raids ), but it feels a bit more intentional ..which leads to a lot of the first attempts where I'm just dead 20 seconds into the fight. It's worth remembering that as a horde ret paladin, our damage seal was very different than the alliance one. Alliance had a stacking dot they could apply, while horde had a large percentage damage increase but took damage when they hit something. Those unaware will wonder why the hell the paladin is chunking itself during a run. This gets used as validity in the build being aweful, and ret still being a joke, as dps meters get shown after every wipe this night. Definitely some spiteful people are annoyed with my presence there. Once I finally get that drama pointed out, and how there's no way for me to dps when I'm being thrown under the bus, people start acting like it's a real guild run again. I'm still not doing great on the meters, I believe I was about 8th on the charts for that fight. Still not the worst, by far, and I've had to spot heal the entire time ( which was ridiculous ). Regardless, there's going to be words said, and I ignore them as we still have Gruul coming up. I kill it. Gruul is probably the best opportunity for me to shine in this trial run ...because you can almost "solo it" if you know how to avoid 95% of the damage. And at the end of that fight ( our very first kill ) I basically did just that. Our dps were just as terrible as our heals, and Gruul made that abundantly clear; we relied too much on healers to make up for bad decisions, and as a 25 man we only ever won fights that didn't have a time limit. Regardless of that, we got our first Gruul kill, and I was #1 on the meters...by a metric fuckton. Now, I'm totally reasonable, and attribute a lot of that to the guild just being dogshit at this point, but it was absolutely glorious to throw those meters up myself as soon as the boss died, showing that a ret paladin had stomped all the other dps. It was petty, but it felt like righteous indignation. I had passed the trial, and was actually allowed to raid full time as dps and spend my hard earned DKP. And that lasted till the next raid night when we went into SSC, the guild got nowhere after the fishing boss, I got gear over the warrior officer, and there was a whole lot of angry pressure to make me go back to healing "because we really need you to do the best job you can for the guild". That guild imploded almost the next day, and it didn't help that I had flat out refused to go back to healing after all the shit I had to deal with and go through, when I hadn't even started the drama in the first place. I was happy to have blissfully / ignorantly helped out and healed the guild before, but they opened that box themselves and now they wanted to put me back in it because it was obviously uncomfortable for a large group of the raid. That coincided with me taking a break from WoW. But I'll always enjoy the fact I was 1 of only 2 raiding ret paladins on the server ( the other one being on the alliance, and having gone all the way up through sunwell as dps ), even if my time in the limelight was practically nonexistent, and surrounded with toxicity. I could have elaborated a lot more about things, like what part my gf played in it all, the other officers the turmoil of failed mag runs, kara raid 1 being seen as a clique as kara raid 2 disolves, etc. , but that's the gist of it.

[@thewinner4me816]

​@@ToadstedCroaks2 years ago now I know, but you ought to submit this if you haven't already, very funny read

[@xersys2556]

Bro I've been an MM hunter since TBC. I just love aimed shot. It feels really good to use.

[@Nobleshield]

ironically for classic there was that "spelladin" meme where you used a 1h weapon + seal of righteousness

[@Arkantos117]

I always dreamed of being above someone on the meters with that build.

[@lukasgaming82]

Oh fuck my life, literally spat my coffee and don't remember the last time I laughed as much as during this story :D

[@drunkenprayer8390]

I feel attacked. Played since launch and my main still only has 70k

[@busshock]

I mean, Survival is a meme, but as a wise man once said, don't let your memes be dreams!

[@uniqueone2731]

Love the channel brother.

[@Mozokuni]

I needed this.

[@fluffehjuju]

Can't wait for the day Finn ends up writing in with his druids horror stories

[@feron450]

That happened to our guild twice two long time members got shadowmourne both left.

[@rayvg7709]

When Finn his careless spending is justified, it'll be Finndication.

[@KisameOwnsYouAll]

Back in TBC I liked being a resto druid for normals so I decided to do a heroic! Surely it wasn't that difficult! First real pull and my heals were doing nothing... We barely survived and I felt so ashamed and scared that I left and never healed anything higher than a vanilla dungeon ever again.

[@Dragito5555555555555]

As a classic hunter who tried melee weaving, being told you’re a meme is a huge feelsbad

[@SunniestAutumn]

as a (former) classic boomkin i was told i was a meme... until it was time for the dog in bwl and he gets nature vulnerability three times in a row.

[@kallmannkallmann]

@@SunniestAutumn that situation is kinda a meme tho

[@truefalcon6884]

@@SunniestAutumn the bigger meme is if shadow vulnerability comes up and a warlock crits. Had a situation where every warlock ended up with higher threat theat than the tank, so he killed every warlock in turn then went back to the tank.

[@Aegishand]

I've got a hair at the front now hold on... lol

[@Gamerszo]

At vanilla I was a turd who wanted to explore kalimdor as a lvl 20 ish, did that mostly and then found out that there was another continent.

[@melissarecord7102]

My major gold came from garrison missions in Cata so even though I am a Wrath baby I still have plenty of gold even after buying the Brutasaur mount.

[@TaiyelKynoska]

It took enhance a few expansions to recover, just hang in there survival, they'll remember you exist eventually

[@kallmannkallmann]

I hope they revamp it. Making it melee killed it

[@cas6382]

I wouldn't get too excited Blizzard will screw with enhancement in a patch or two like they always do :(

[@TaiyelKynoska]

It's a shame because some of the mechanical design they made for melee survival is really enjoyable. I definitely think if they (hopefully) revert it back to ranged they keep wildfire bomb/make infusion gameplay baseline. Maybe bake in Mongoose Bite with a Kill Command style spender (or make KC do that and give em a new generator). Idk, I just feel there is a lot of wasted design potential wrapped up in a spec redesign no one really wanted.

[@kallmannkallmann]

@@TaiyelKynoska woud be cool with a build that is both melee and ranged but encounter wise (raid) it woud not work :(

[@brettbear5228]

i can’t stop thinking about the IRL Blacksmithing

[@cas6382]

As someone who played the heck out of Legion and by the end was running Antorus at least like 3+ times a week the guy who got the legendary Argus trinket got me pretty triggered ngl since out of all my runs I only had one friend get it lol

[@Bledarag]

That last guy sounds so depressed...

[@Perid0tStar]

I almost wanna ask about his trip to the store xD

[@williamprior7831]

There is actually a player triggered hard mode in naxxrammas on grobbulus. Simply have a shaman place down cleansing totem the whole time

[@RoboBongoCuckooCop]

38:17 - genuinely, I think I might've been in LFR with that guy as a tank. I distinctly remember kicking a tank from LFR Archimonde because he had a trinket from mythic siege of Orgrimmar - it was Rook's Unlucky Talisman I think. there was absolutely no freaking way that he had levelled to 100 and increased his ilvl enough to queue for LFR without having gotten a better tanking trinket than that one. it would've been 566ilvl, heroic WoD dungeons gave you 630ilvl gear. there was absolutely no way he couldn't have gotten an upgrade

[@mrborgeusborg1541]

During antorus I joined my first mythic guild but this comment is about my heroic guild. We got 2 antorus trinkets to drop in the guild. The first drop for a mage. He had read he could only use 2 legendaries and he should use a ring and shoulder(I don't 100% remember what leggos he was using). So he placed the antorus trinket in the bank. The other droped for a fury warrior. He is/was famous for rerolling alot and 2 weeks after getting antorus trinket he wanted to reroll to monk. He didn't see a single issue wanting to come and raid with our mains with his 820 ilvl no leggo monk. In antorus. That droped 945 on heroic. 1 week later he took a long break to wait for bfa. Sounds good, right?

[@thefinalskarm1754]

That bastard with the fucking argus legendary.

[@RetroGenetic]

Oh boy SlashCry of Kazzak, Memento Mori and Shadowmourne...

[@Aegishand]

And Hey Panda land was slept on.

[@ckhayne2]

One cool thing Blizzard did; So I got SM in my guild and I gave away all the special items, a few years later Blizzard retro-activated the mount and toy to everyone who got SM.

[@marclarsen8030]

This is not the Shadowlands experience I had envisioned.

[@thepainsight]

Honestly I don't see what's wrong with the first story, if he completed Shadowmourne before the other guy could even get the option to get shards then nobody loses out? I mean it's really his own fault for not having the materials ready to do the quest faster? Also obviously he would have bailed after getting shadowmourne/box, why would you share that stuff when you put in most of the work to get it in the first place? It's certainly a dick move if the guild provided the primordial saronite but they didn't in that case and there were guilds who were selling the heroic parts of the quest chain / you can pug the whole gathering shards part.

[@killsomethin]

36:40 I have this urge to smack a noob .

[@Zutraxi]

Looking for a guild. It has to be stable. But what if you want to create a new guild. That is unstable af xd

[@huzzabuzatrolol]

19:10 STOP CALLING ME OUT LIKE THIS PREACH

[@yanomamo89]

19:50 This comparison of the Wrath-babies vs the Older Players is starting to sound like a Millennial vs Boomer argument.

[@Swordart2022]

As meele main I love surv spec, I play Retri as main

[@ticien1]

Man this guy definitely had the last laugh in the final patch of shadowlands hahahaha

[@tnaxpw]

I never saw trinket from argus, and I did like 50 runs total in Legion and 50 after that across all my chars, pepegas getting it instead.

[@billymays9296]

Pretty sure it stopped dropping after pre-patch anyway

[@sephirothx1984]

When on spotify?? :)

[@fancysun7836]

Id just like to say...when i played wow i pvp'd so really all gold was to me was transmog tokens. id just clear all the old raids i could..it was like a pay check every week for transmog:D

[@ZeroToWealthRedistribution]

This was great lol

[@SirRagnark]

I play survival in shadowlands! We are here.

[@lanehunter7532]

Membership to the SHAA is only 10k!

[@jaklawrence4301]

I joined my friend's guild and it died 3 weeks into shadowlands, already on my second guild of the xpac doesn't bode well :L

[@ScorpionP2C]

Much like a bad relationship its best if it ends early. Good luck and wishes in the new guild!

[@ryuranzou]

Survival is a meme, but I respect those that meme.

[@MorionAikanaro]

I was on illidan-us in the guild war ensemble for all of 3 hydross pulls.The guild leader's name was troxxed and he was known for raging on people. even had a sound board on a web page. He made a warrior tank shit his pants during illidan (kid was 14). He told him if he goes afk he would kick him from the guild. Anyway, me and my buddy joined the guild because they were 2nd on the server at the time right behind Blood legion. Troxxed told my RL BF that he was supposed to heal the nature tank and troxxed was the frost tank. troxxed died in about 3 seconds then started screaming at him cuz he didnt heal him. i came to his defense and yelled at troxxed and promptly got me and my 2 buddies gkicked. lol.

[@helvete983]

Ah the ring of rotting sinew.. good times.

[@tomlivesey1868]

I am looking for his video were he constantly says "WERE TORGHAST DOW" at one part xD, random but can anyone help haha.

[@Mikenotkip]

16 years and I have like 25k gold on my main and like 3k on each of my alts

[@Mackanw]

Stop playing the victim card if you’re not satisfied about it

[@Mikenotkip]

@@Mackanw Lol what? Serious question: How did you read that and come out with someone trying to play a vicitm? Can you read? Edit: Spelling

[@corpsestarch8869]

I was in the same boat till 2x4 bastion boe farm.

[@ColCoal]

I will argue that the Occulus was the hardest heroic dungeon of all time. It is impossible to fill a group that will do it, as they just leave. It was impossible at current content to solo it, therefore it was impossible, thus the hardest.

[@billymays9296]

Occulus is, and has always been, a complete joke. Literally 5 words written in chat were enough to never fail that free dungeon

[@westakahashi5487]

It wasn't hard.

[@GekoHayate]

@@westakahashi5487 For some people it was like 8th dimensional underwater rocket surgery. I hated getting it in the dungeon finder because waiting to get a full group that will stay to replace the idiots who immediately drop out took longer than the actual dungeon.

[@saltywings41]

This dude is going to play MM and be like holy shit this slaps and I never have to move out of bullshit mechanics and suddenly he will see the light.

[@niaauer1835]

image being benched in normal

[@dacoolist]

Bigup Drama Time

[@triggered9325]

Im still Sadge to this day that i didnt get that fucking trinket. Argus haunts me dangling it over my head at night.

[@rogerstruble5146]

hey preach how do i send a story

[@shizo66]

to the guy in chat oh no retail players know auto attack theres like 5 classes that thats their strongest ability

[@PwnyDwn]

So.. I gotta be that guy... I finally gave survival a try after that drama... and ya know.. It's fun. it's actually fun. I'm now a survival hunter. I shall Embrace the meme. It's a good time. That said I've been a warrior main for 15 years and will just stick to leaving the hunter as a leather farmer lol...oh... and btw also i play single minded fury ;.;

[@TobiasKremer]

@Preach Do not put shade on vanila paladins. I will let you know that we are the most hard core enlighten souls out there. We played a class that was shit, just because we wanted to keep the dream alive for all of you.

[@roguehavikk]

We have 7 warlocks >< im one of them

[@ozcarp92]

LET'S GOOOOO

[@lukeluckynblue1873]

Dude said 6-8 hours :D man im playin this game like 16-20 hours a day

[@juliannorton100]

Yea, but its better to play with people you like playing with, and struggle with them (and perhaps carry them, even) then it is trying to be the absolute best, and only be friends with only other people that are good. If your first running raids with people that are good at the game and secondly with people that you maybe like, then you're kind of an edge lord. The rest of us just play the game with people we like, and we carry the rest as we can.

[@Catjamfan]

What if neither applies? Hard to find a guild with either good players or nice/fun ones to hang with. Standards are different, those with low standards are the easiest to please and thus happy more often. Calling people "edge lords" for wanting something you are not after is just narrowminded. You do you, they do what they do, I do neither cause my standards and expectations are way too high for online games nowadays.

[@centretotheleft]

I play a mm hunter but identify as a survival hunter....

[@Void1243]

i still hate pandas tough

[@ZeroiusProduction]

If the Survival Hunter sees this, i gotta tell ya bud, you're a damn meme, but that's okay. People will remember that story you told and think "huh, that survival hunter is kind of a meme" you just got free advertisement in peoples head and a free apartment for the small rent space PepeLaugh

[@grahamham]

Preach I’m sorry to say. But bring the player, not the spec. Survival is competitive enough to be played. Your approach to saying play MM because it does more dps is only half the story. Because knowing how to maximize your class is a huge part of raiding. Plenty of good players out there who won’t cater to the meta.

[@Ztormrageheero]

To inFINNity. And beyond

[@ScorpionP2C]

I dont normally watch these (drama and the voyeristic appeal never really applied to me) but this one was so hilarious from start to finish I watched the whole thing!

[@austinmoon2626]

lol a bit late but i got argus lego first try both characters (that i play)

[@gozewstuffnthings5837]

Played since vannila, had to buy a wow token. F

[@buddybarlow9604]

Oh stop if somehow BM was pulling ahead of MM by a few DPS preach would 1000% be playing BM...because he in fact plays FOTM

[@damonrojas83]

The amount of visible triggering on this show... hahaha

[@azrael4885]

Correction frostmourning .....

[@skerdoo523]

#WeSurvive

[@403gtfo]

39:30 you mad bro?

[@shizunne]

There is no such thing as meme specs in retail WoW. There are only wannabe tryhards who think a difference of 1000-2000k DPS between the best and worst spec sims matters for progression.

[@anoncyclist2131]

i dont think its too OTT to go at ppl who tried to take away wow from someone, which is like a massive part of players lives. the fact the tits take him playing surv shows they think it is

[@nogardgaming7447]

i stand with him in the fact that you shouldn't be shoehorned into playing what you don't want to play just because it is bis. But you are a meme bro sorry.

[@andrei-de4qh]

MM definitely is fotm. A huge amount of people rolled hunters specifically to play mm this tier.

[@ScorpionP2C]

Yeah I have been playing a hunter for a long time now but was forced from BM to MM because of how imbalanced the two are, I can only pity SV mains tho.

[@lanehunter7532]

@@ScorpionP2C dont pity us, we are not memes

[@itslikemagic123]

Dwarfs can’t be paladins tho

[@stevekarvo6299]

My shortest raiding carrier is nathria cause of how boring the rewards are... or lack of rewards.

[@ladamere]

is a meme

[@jenat82]

Honestly, I'm allergic to the cast time of aimed shot. lol it feels so bad! lol "let me hard cast this pyro" bad. My hunter isn't for raiding so for practical reasons is BM. Double gatherer. But I've enjoyed survival too. I just hate MM. It feels bad. BM feels good the freedom at ranged. Like how havoc feels good. We all got tired of it in BfA bit just yesterday I started levelling mine (already maxed leatherworking, i need 60 to craft the damn lego whites). It's a shame it's dog shit for raiding really. Cos it feels nice.

[@over6686]

Love how preach complained about a Vault and got weapon week 1 in the same time

[@sergezede]

This makes no sense.

[@plummet3860]

@@sergezede Whats hard to understand? he complained about the vault and then he got a weapon from it on his first week...

[@sergezede]

@@plummet3860 does it negate his complaints because he got a weapon? I might be reading it wrong.

[@cas6382]

Yeah how dare he complain since he got one piece of good loot weeks ago! What has this world come to!?

[@JBrandonMercer123]

If the author of the first story reads this, understand that survival is a meme because WoW doesn't need ANOTHER melee class. In a raid environment, it's usually better to play ranged if you can because there are only so many melee spots to fill. As an example of what I mean, think about bosses that have stack and spread mechanics. Stacking is fine, but when you have to quickly spread out, there's only so much room in which the melee can spread while still doing damage. It's a lot easier to spread out as ranged b/c you have the whole room a lot of times and you don't have to be on the boss to do damage. I know this is basic, but he obviously doesn't understand why ranged is preferred over melee. Also, in Vanilla and a little beyond there were a lot of idiots that tried to play hunters as melee and they were laughed at for being noobs. They honestly just didn't know any better. So, then Blizzard went and made a melee spec for hunters to legitimize these idiots despite the fact that every spec added to the game has been melee except for Mistweavers.

[@EndOfExistence1337]

Mistweaver is a melee healer spec so... it's kinda melee too.

[@thatman5484]

Survival is beating BM and both warrior specs. Whomst the meme now

[@chrisrace744]

This used to be good content now its just rambling nonsense.

[@curiousabout1]

omg fu for that obnoxious screaming intro.