Aeroplane Heaven - P-51D Mustang - First Impressions Review - Microsoft Flight Simulator - Duxford

[@martinpengelly9155]

Another superb and frank video. I've been lucky enough to have had a couple of P-51 flights and must say that the sound is rather lacking in this rendition. It was loud, very loud, and even with a headset on, just bearable. To think that those young lads went all the way to Berlin and back with just a cloth headset on!

[@Dreamsofwings]

Yes the sound at the moment is a huge let down. Part of the thrill of warbirds is that raw power that you can feel (in the real thing or if you have a buttkicker I suppose) but also the sound that helps create that experience for us simmers. Must have been fantastic going up in one Martin. What an experience! It is certainly incredible to think how much time those young pilots spent in these kind of environments.

[@pbast1967]

great 1st flight. I just got this plane and my first take off was quite squirrely!! lol Thanks for the video!

[@Dreamsofwings]

Hey many thanks Paul 👍🏻🍻

[@bpk-dz5qc]

Great review! I made switch to X-plane about a year ago and unfortunately there are no A2A warbirds on the platform. A2A has set such a high standard of realism that its hard to fly other warbird's that aren't A2A. I do still really enjoy your content as always.

[@Dreamsofwings]

Many thanks!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Great review! Subbed

[@Dreamsofwings]

Hey thanks very much and likewise 🍻

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@Dreamsofwings :)

[@PeterMatthess]

At 15:03 you can see the effect of the blurred prop spin not matching up with the actual arc of the propellar

[@Dreamsofwings]

Yes very true

[@Sir_vAce]

great review as usual!

[@Dreamsofwings]

Thanks so much! 🍻

[@MajorFlawes]

Nice review 👍 It's a shame they haven't added the gun port whistling when pulling tight turns. Keep up the good work 🙂

[@Dreamsofwings]

Many thanks! Good point on the gun port whistle. AH are very good at updating so who knows, we might see it in the future maybe.

[@MajorFlawes]

@@Dreamsofwings fingers crossed. At least it's another tooled up flier for dodgy geezer to fly :-)

[@Dreamsofwings]

@@MajorFlawes 🤣🤣 oh blimey, that’s just going to be a whole world of trouble!

[@SearchBucket2]

@@Dreamsofwings There will surely be a sound pack. It's a swings and roundabouts thing though. I purchased a sound pack for the exquisite Skuncraft's P51D for X-Plane and while some sounds are better others are worse! I did so simply because it was there and promised "Merlin heaven". There are gun port whistles in both sound packs but the original fly-by sounds are unbeatable.

[@Peter-55]

Thanks, great review!

[@Dreamsofwings]

Thanks very much 🍻

[@Peter-55]

@@Dreamsofwings I have their Spitfire Mk1A which is good, but I am really looking forward to the Lanc when it arrives 😎

[@Dreamsofwings]

@@Peter-55 yes I was very interested to see that. I am sure I will end up getting in but I think I’ll probably see it more from the outside doing formation group flights in the Spit. Will be nice to see it in this sim with the quality visuals. I have never had one in a sim before so interested to see how it flies etc. 👍🏻

[@Peter-55]

@@Dreamsofwings I have it in P3D, and it is good.

[@Dreamsofwings]

@@Peter-55 ah good to know 👍🏻

[@tb100]

Seems like Aeroplane Heaven spends 66% of time on modelling and textures, 33% on flight model and then 1% of time adding sound as an irrlevant afterthought.

[@johngleason6472]

Agree 100%. Why not intro the aircraft with the proper soundset on the most iconic fighter aircraft of WWII? One grows weary of paying to be a beta tester then having to wait and see if an update comes. Money grab?

[@Putti509]

yes the sound on this plane is horrible! It's a shame really cause the models is really good but the sound is just as important! Just with their spitfire MK1A, at idle and low rpm it sounds great but as soon as u get some speed you can hear that it's a sound clip that is just set to repeat

[@Frederic_Lord]

Looks great in VR too. The engine sounds a bit weird indeed. Seems to be AH weakness with other products as well. Might needs a bit of tweaking here and there, but overall I think it is a fantastic add-on. No doubt AH will update it over time. Nice to have a good P-51D in MSFS.

[@Dreamsofwings]

Yes looking forward to trying it in VR. I agree, the sound is pretty unimpressive in this initial release but AH have shown they are very quick to update so will be interesting to see how that develops! She certainly looks beautiful.

[@DLCTVBM]

Hello, Thanks for the video, that's a very good first impressions review! Do you have the mustang that come with the Reno air race in MSFS? If you do, could you tell me how this one compare to it in term of flight model?

[@Dreamsofwings]

Many thanks! I do but I only flew it once, I just got the basic pack. From hazy recollection I was say this one is possibly better in terms of flight model but I need to do a proper side by side at some point.

[@DLCTVBM]

@@Dreamsofwings Thanks, I was fairly disappointed by the one from Reno pack, being spoiled by the A2A in P3D...For now, even with the FlyingIron Spitfire, I do not find the fun I have with the A2A warbirds in MSFS...Will you make a more in depth review of this P51D in the future?

[@Dreamsofwings]

@@DLCTVBM yes having flown A2A it’s hard to detach from that and this sim seems to have it’s limitations. Will be interesting to see how A2A have overcome them. I’m sure I will do another video with this P-51. Not sure if it will be of the review format but will probably be a longer flight and go into more depth with the systems eg high alt, GPS etc.

[@DLCTVBM]

@@Dreamsofwings I find myself seeking for news about MSFS release on the A2A forum pretty often...I think, the military P-51, the Bonanza and the Cherokee are the planes I flew the most from A2A, I'll be more than curious to see them fly in MSFS! Thanks again for your answers, I'll watch the next video with P51D...

[@urgentsiesta7606]

If they fix the sound and address the slow speed handling, I'll buy it. The 3D modeling work is great, and dynamics for MSFS are good (and it has a GPS!). Take off handling was decent and AH have clearly done some work there. Slow speed handling in the stall and in the pattern needs work. OTOH, if we keep in mind that both A2A Sims and DCS Mustang are $50 ea, this addon @ US$36 is clearly a good value. Many thanks for your videos - always a pleasure!

[@Dreamsofwings]

Yes you make a good point about the value and many thanks!

[@mkivhvd2478]

Thanks for reviewing this airplane! I thought about buying it, but the A2A Civilian Mustang is my go-to and I just can't... This did make me go fire up P3D for a Mustang flight though...... ;)

[@Dreamsofwings]

Yes once you have flown the A2A Mustang there is no substitute Rob! It had a similar effect on me. I live in hope that A2A bring a P-51 to MSFS

[@Wizzler2112]

Warm up right after start should be no more than 1200 RPM until you get oil temp

[@pedroandrade4203]

After experiencing any A2A simulations aircraft (wich is somewhat old technology) one gets rather spoiled with the amount of detail they provide. Can´t wait to see what they bring to the table with this new sim, and hopefully they set the standard really high

[@Dreamsofwings]

If they can bring a P-51D to MSFS then that will be a great day! This sim is crying out for some of that A2A goodness!

[@electromov84]

wooow pretty airplane 😍

[@wanderer5200]

Engine does sound a bit quiet, but the airflow noise does seem very real.

[@Dreamsofwings]

Yes that’s very true. At times it’s like being in a glider lol.

[@jameskirklandfrew9278]

I purchased this as soon as I so it. Its fantastic apart from the Merlin sound. I'm sure AH will fix it. I note that AH have a Lancaster in development and surely they'll get that amazing 4 x Merlin sound right. Fingers crossed !

[@Dreamsofwings]

Hey let’s hope so. Would be great to gave a good Lanc in the sim 💪🏻

[@viper_maddog3922]

Have they updated the sound or anything at all from thr aircraft?

[@Dreamsofwings]

Not sure but it’s still not great though many seem to be replacing the sounds.

[@goalski134]

it’s a real shame that this is the best representation of a p51 available for msfs. i hope we might see the a2a version in the sim one day

[@Dreamsofwings]

ah, now an A2A P-51 would be heaven! My fingers are permanently crossed (which sometimes makes eating difficult).

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Nice review. In cruise it sounded like there was more wind noise than engine noise. Did you experience that or is it the bad audio on my device?

[@Dreamsofwings]

Many thanks! No I experienced that too. At times it was almost like being in a glider with very loud wind noise and little audio feedback from the engine. Hoping that they will fix that.

[@eziomarcori4158]

Nice video, unfortunately I never succed to take off. It seems she cannot pick up enough speed and, if I manage somehow to be airborn, immediately the left wing goes down and the plane overturn and crash. I followed your procedure and reccomendation and I realize is not like take off with C172 , but I manage to fly the spitfire which is not easy either to take off. I reinstalled the plane, just in case it was bugged, but still no success. If I want to fly a Mustang I have to use the very poor realistic Reno racer.

[@Dreamsofwings]

@@eziomarcori4158 Many thanks, I must confess I’ve not flown it in a long time but I think latest version is meant to be more realistic. The torque means you have to be gentle with throttle on take off but the A2A P-51D simulates that behaviour very well in FSX/P3D. I hope one day either A2A of FlyingIron will produce a good P-51D.

[@eziomarcori4158]

@@Dreamsofwings Thanks, I will give another try.

[@alogie]

Is that a VC-10 in the background?

[@Dreamsofwings]

Certainly is. I’m not much into airliners but the VC-10 is a beauty.

[@mitch_the_-itch]

Did they ever fix that terrible sound? I was going to buy it until I heard it, lol. Has it ever went on sale?

[@ceegnz]

Lovely review, the second one I've found and you both mentioned the sounds ... I'm slowly reinstalling all my old lovelies in shiny new P3D5 and rediscovering the joys of accurate flight and ground models, real weather, properly study level warbirds and tubeliners, your Spitfire Academy series, fsuipc, and OMG the fps I get running P3D on a pc that was built to be good at MSFS ....... I don't think I'll be grabbing this one until the sound is upgraded but I will certainly move the A2A P51 up my install list :) If the plane is so cold and dark that the flaps and gear doors droop should you be able to change the prop pitch ? And how do you get on with stopping it, I thought you needed hefty back stick to safely brake a taildragger but that locks the tailwheel ?

[@Dreamsofwings]

Many thanks! Yes had backstick pressure on for part of the landing but although limited control it felt ok

[@jameskirklandfrew9278]

Hello folks, I'm sure that locking the tailwheel stops it from castoring and links it with the rudder meaning rudder input will help steer the act during take off and landing. Is this correct ?

[@Dreamsofwings]

No in this msfs version locking the tailwheel stops you steering with it, ie stuck central. In the A2A p3d version, which is realistic, locking it allows 6 degrees of steering either side.

[@ceegnz]

First, the rudder always steers the plane. If you don't have air moving across the tail from speed / the propeller it won't actually do anything, but it will be trying. Unlocking the tailwheel means you can also turn the plane with the tailwheel, locking it means you can only steer with the rudder. The faster you're going the more 'entertaining' steering with the tailwheel will be. I only bought this a couple of minutes ago so can't comment specifically on this plane yet but I will say that the Milviz Corsair, which is well modelled, is almost uncontrollable during the takeoff or landing rolls with the tailwheel on the ground and unlocked. To get up with any chance of success you need to line up, lock the tailwheel, then get the tail up as fast as possible, and to land them you must land with the tailwheel locked then unlock it once the tailwheel is down and the plane has slowed down a lot. Otherwise you'll be taking off on a 45 degree angle to the runway :) and groundlooping every landing. I'll also say locking and unlocking the wheel with the stick is great, it's not possible to do it in the vc with a mouse because you have to choose between looking at the knob / looking where you're going.

[@Dreamsofwings]

Exactly! Locking definitely helps

[@NightmarishAngel413]

Mine has no textures. What do I do about that?

[@Dreamsofwings]

Not come across that. I would try a fresh download and install of the aircraft and failing that check out AH support.

[@zneham]

I wonder if A2A will come to MSFS....

[@Dreamsofwings]

It’s on the way, first aircraft is the Piper Comanche……there is also the Aerostar that is work in progress. No news on warbirds but I have faith in them!!

[@DS-bj9br]

Where can you purchase this airplane heaven P51?

[@Dreamsofwings]

It’s on their own website or you can purchase on Orbx Central or Simmarket

[@michaeloliver7545]

@@Dreamsofwings Or Just Flight.

[@drmckee]

Being able to remove the cowling to see engine and gun loads is ok, but it seems a little time could have been spent by the developers on modeling the engine systems so it is not so much an arcade plane. I know the younger crowd likes to just jump in and fly. But as for immersion during flight, having to closely monitor the T's and P's of the engine is, by far, much more immersive than removable panels while one is on the ground. I am hesitant to purchase this at this time. I enjoy simulating flight. The Flying Iron Spitfire is top on my list as far as War Birds go. If I do end up purchasing this P-51, I will certainly alias the sounds of the Merlin engine in the Spitfire over to this P-51. A good video.

[@Dreamsofwings]

Many thanks! Having flown the A2A P-51 where you have to take good care of your aeroplane I too miss that level of immersion in this one. Maybe with future updates we might see more. Personally I am hoping A2A will launch their’s in this sim.

[@draggerlane04090]

I just bought this yesterday and I flew it today. I can't take off in it. I get about 100 feet and it wants to juke to the left every single time. I must of tried 20+ times to take off. I can't get it to do it. And I have A2A P51 I have no problems with that one. I don't know what is wrong with it. I know it isn't me I think something is wrong. also I finally got it to take off in a field while flying the flaps came down on there own. and of course like you said the sound is crap. I prefer A2A version over this.

[@Dreamsofwings]

Oh it has some strange handling for sure. The A2A P-51 really has set a high benchmark. I really do hope we see it in this sim soon.

[@vaudevillian7]

I hope A2A move over to MSFS (and also make a Sea Fury)

[@Dreamsofwings]

Couldn’t agree more!…..and an A2A Sea Fury would be something very special! 👍🏻

[@vaudevillian7]

@@Dreamsofwings it feels like it would fit their stuff, a warbird that’s now heavily used in civilian air racing. Great review of the AH P-51 too, might consider getting it

[@oalithgow]

No functioning guns?

[@Dreamsofwings]

No

[@coxy5850]

Packard Bell...?! I know...lip slip!

[@Dreamsofwings]

Lol didn’t even realise I had said it!

[@SearchBucket2]

On the subject of the P51D check out this utterly awesome video .... kzbin.info/www/bejne/npvWo6SDmpV1adU .... a must for all warbird fans despite a few small mistakes.

[@chuckenomics]

Checklists are just too much of a pain in the ass I guess..

[@philipfoster7269]

Nice to see the Poles recognised? What? For a change? If I was just getting into aviation and I didn't know better I'd think that nearly all aircrews in the RAF during WW2 came from everywhere but the UK. All I see is Free Polish representation or free Belgian, or free French or Canadian or Dutch or almost anything but representation of pilots from the UK.

[@Dreamsofwings]

Must admit I don’t get that impression from what I see/read. I see more a recognition of the nations that came together, including the UK crews. What I was referring to on this case was the squadron was represented in a repaint here rather than a ‘for a change’ type statement.

[@MegaPeedee]

That sound system AH uses is crap. Why they insist on using it bewilders me. I will not buy AH products until they get something better.

[@payt01]

It loks fine, but sounds awful. I'm afraid this will be a pass for me, as sound is such an important part of the experience, especially in warbirds. Thanks for the review though!

[@Dreamsofwings]

Sounds are incredibly important, I agree. Hopefully this is something that AH will address.

[@scottwalker8949]

Sorry but A2A is the gold standard

[@Dreamsofwings]

Absolutely

[@scottwalker8949]

I have been flying fs, since 1987 I have taken a break since 2017 so much has changed, Do you see A2A getting in on msfs 2020 ?

[@Dreamsofwings]

@@scottwalker8949 yes they have announced that an updated Comanche will be coming to MSFS first but no set timeline. I personally have my fingers crossed for the warbirds coming in as soon as possible.