Drinker's Chasers - Kraven Kills Madame Web 2

[@nadilenebudski]

Madame Web killed Madame Web 2.

[@dannypalin9583]

Harder than the P on the Pepsi sign.

[@kri249]

Bet she didn't see that coming.

[@rossleader2055]

You mean I won’t get to see Sydney Sweeney in a skintight spider suit?

[@alida4790]

@@rossleader2055 me is sad

[@Timbuktu407]

Amen! My thoughts exactly! 😂

[@tlk4554]

“And nothing of value was lost.”

[@chasehedges6775]

Indeed.

[@rh31n]

Like nothing of value was gained from this video.

[@krissteel4074]

They did manage to make 10's of millions of dollars disappear, that's a good trick!

[@woodwyrm]

Sydney Sweeney though.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@woodwyrm I hear she’s really attractive.

[@mroctober3657]

When Kraven opened with the voiceover "My mother was in Africa with my dad when she was researching lions right before she died.” I knew we were in for a treat.

[@dearthditch]

“My father was pregnant with me and dying when the lion people saved me” 😅

[@Mereologist]

My favourite part was when he shouted, "ITS KRAVIN' TIME!", and then gave the entire audience cravings. Truly a moment of all time.

[@anthonyml7]

I feel like now a days it be more like "My mother was busy putting on a live cam show on onlyfans while mailing her used underwear to subscribers." 🤣

[@mroctober3657]

@@dearthditch That's the movie I wanna see. What could've been.

[@Lampoluke]

​@@dearthditch kraven the omegaverse furry. The movie ends with spiderman yiffing him nonconsensually because furry writers are wrong in the head

[@sparerib5494]

The problem with Madame Web is its about a superhero with no powers, other than seeing the future. They should have made the movie about Sydney Sweeney's character. So, she starts the movie as this nerdy schoolgirl with glasses. But, then she gets spider powers and turns into Sexy Sydney in a really tight catsuit, doing spider stuff and keeping the fan service high and the male-bashing low.

[@ericaugust1501]

haha. good call.

[@MrJevman]

Yes! I’d watch that.

[@criticalcommenter]

Sounds terrible. A film purely appealing to perverts and incels

[@keithkannenberg7414]

Spider-Sydney would make a lot of money. And think of the porn parodies!

[@Mereologist]

Sadly, modern writers other than obsessing about averting the male gaze seem to have no idea that being a GIRLBOSS can also mean staying at home and directing others well and to their benefit. We could easily have had both a clever leader juggling possible futures and a spider-girl in a tight suit getting in fights.

[@TheWarmachine375]

There's no point of Spider-Man spinoffs if there's no Spider-Man in it at all.

[@nationalsocialism3504]

Bullshit point from a idiots perspective... Marvel made the MCU out of B tier & C tier characters, since Marvel sold off all their A tier characters trying to avoid bankruptcy

[@NickferZev]

@@nationalsocialism3504B and C tier characters???? That’s absolutely not true, at least when it comes to the main Avengers. I can agree with u regarding stuff like Guardians of the Galaxy and such

[@nationalsocialism3504]

@NickferZev your ignorance is shining through... Ironman was a B tier character that movie studios weren't interested in purchasing, i mean even the Hulk got sold off to Universal (hence why Hulk only appears in other people movies not his own)

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

And yet the Penguin and Joker worked with no Batman… it can easily be done if the movies were good. I think a green goblin and venom movie could’ve been great with both movies introducing the rest of the Sinister 6, building up to Sinister 6 vs Spider-Man.

[@nationalsocialism3504]

@Lawrence_Talbot exactly... it's a moronic premise that excuses the absolute incompetence of those involved like they were destined to fail. Ironman was a literal nobody and Marvel didn't even have anyone in the top 3 known characters all being behind the DC trinity... then those characters who were known like Spider-Man & X-Men, they had all already been sold off. Ironman & Captain America coming out wasn't in any way an exciting prospect back then... and I was talking about it in the sweatiest of nerd cirles playing 3.5ed D&D and 40k. Motherfuckers who are such nerds that they paint plastic toys to play a tabletop game with a tape measure were vaguely familiar at best

[@mroctober3657]

Coming soon to Nickelodeon: That's So Kraven.

[@liamphibia]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Ladykyra101]

Clever. 🤣

[@WilliamTheMovieFan]

That comment wins the internet!

[@josephnjuguna1986]

😂

[@KaiHouston-m6j]

I was hoping WB!

[@Robwithakick]

"Hey, Kraven! You look a lot like that speedy guy who got killed in Avengers: Age of Ultron. You guys related?"

[@liamphibia]

I'm so done with this multiverse sh!t

[@Bhanz1]

Oh 😄

[@bollockjohnson6156]

Watched Kraven last night. The ending was perfect; he Kraved like no one ever Kraved before, but when he yelled "It's Kravening time" that sealed it for me.

[@AscendantStoic]

Peak cinema 😅

[@Shapershift]

It sure was a Kravened time!

[@sparerib5494]

So, you're Kravin' more Kraven?

[@Lost_Delos]

You're so funny and original. You should get an award for your creativity. I definitely haven't heard that dozens of times already.

[@Christopheromoan]

This is an unoriginal and played out joke.

[@chance_ondriezek99]

It takes a special kind of bad for a movie to perform worse than Madame Web 😂

[@chasehedges6775]

KRAVEN, Madame web and Morbius are definitely some of the films ever made LOL!

[@Petermawila]

Exactly my thought 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@lukesmith4698]

That drop off in money for the venom movies was probably caused by the genius writers of the sequels who made venom into a kid friendly overemotional and obnoxious child doing mcu humor. They refused to take their most popular character that isn’t Spider-Man seriously while taking their most irrelevant characters seriously.

[@Anthonycheesman2024]

If it had mcu humor it would have actually made money .

[@Prokaryon]

There’s a Harvard business school study from 25 years ago called the Sequel Project which shows the stats in the box office of sequels. Venom fits that model.

[@Xxgxxaxx]

I got Vietnam flashbacks to your profile picture,

[@shadf7902]

Bad writers, bad scripts, bad characters, sony never had a chance in hell with this nonsense honestly.

[@kieranelliott5607]

We're really having a great year for bombs with things like Madame Webb, Borderlands, and The Crow. Who knew there was room for another one.

[@mroctober3657]

Kraven is a Christmas miracle!

[@justinlast2lastharder749]

There's always more room in Hell.

[@anthonyml7]

I would argue we're ending the year strong with Nosferatu and A Complete Unknown, but who knows Hollywood has tripped and face planted right before the finish line before 🤷‍♂

[@TheWarmachine375]

Madame Web: "I'm the worst Sony superhero movie ever!" Kraven: "Hello there."

[@Peroy1]

It's not nearly as bad as "Madame Web"...

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

Nah Kraven is a way better than Madam web. Not a good movie, but no madam web levels of bad

[@pidopero8545]

Mademe Wenobi!

[@repsych]

Kraven: "Hold my bear trap."

[@mr.dystopian5554]

"What are you??" "We... are Kraven" IDK why that didn't win the movie an Oscar. That line was golden.

[@JaxonG-zg7xm]

It’s ironic how as Hollywood’s quality goes down the gutter, justifiably cynical channels such as drinker rise in popularity. It’s almost as if his commentary about the pathetic state of Hollywood somewhat replaces Hollywood movies as entertainment inadvertently lol

[@dansjansons]

Weirdly enough...reading your comment at the begining I thought what on Earth are you on about... by the end of the comment (5 sec later) I was like... damn, you are so spot on with this! When i started to follow The Drinker years ago, it was because my view and interests at the cinema art was very similiar to his and it was all interest of actual criticism, be it negative or positive but actual criticism with added value nevertheless. And also because his negatives and positives almost all matched for any movie or show. And I am not even remotely close to anything Scotish!!! :D For the last couple of years though.. right, I actually do not watch most of that H-wood garbage but instead listen to these guys having a blast disecting every " heavy scent flavoured piece of art" spat out of Turdwood. Which ironically indeed, provides much more intelectual entertainmnet, the disection part that is. And some rare episodes that would recommend something worth my time to be spent on cinema... I am the generation (X is it...?) that grew up with 80ies action movies, StarWars, T1,2, original Indiana Jones etc etc... And I was hyper excited when H-wood brought the comics and scifi back onto big silver screen in 2000s with suchgravitas! As a 30+yo back then I peed hot when Avengers saga came around with first Iron Man and Cap! The first one to get in the seats! And renewal of Star Wars even got me fired up...before I watched it! Yeah. No. I'll wait now. Or go back to books.

[@KyLewin]

I have spent way more time watching Drinker, MauLer, Despero, and others like them than I’ve spent watching Hollywood’s crap the last five or so years. Less aggravating and it saves a lot of money! lol

[@gugy68]

To be fair any channel criticizing the status quo and the way our society is declining is full of cynicism and is raising in popularity. Most people just are tired of the bs times we live in.

[@anthonyml7]

We want to be entertained, someone should tell Hollywood that

[@nuclearmedicineman6270]

Come on Sony, just sink 300 million into a Paste-Pot Pete movie already, you know you want to. I dare you to do it.

[@burmecian123]

Bring back The Wall 🧱

[@itop7976]

And I thought I was the only people who remembered Paste Pot Pete. Marvelous!

[@typhonviserys8288]

Exec #1: "That can't be his real name." Exec #2: "It's not. It's what Spidey calls him to get under his skin. His real villain name is The Trapster." Exec #1: ::Pictures the femboy casting choices and shudders:: "Paste Pot Pete it is."

[@ScrambledAndBenedict]

I'm holding out for Mister Banjo myself. I think there's a lot of potential to bring him into the greater shared universe.

[@halinar1]

Bwa ha ha

[@szeltovivarsydroxan9944]

WB making dozens of Batman TV shows without Batman Sony with Spider-Man: "Write that down, write that down!"

[@TheWarmachine375]

Kraven got himself bitten by a lion and gained powers? Sounds awfully like Spider-Man.

[@breach005]

No he was in the Amazon with his mom when she was researching lions right before she died

[@Muxxyy]

​@breach005 there are no lions in Amazon...

[@Theendman42]

@@MuxxyyNor are there water buffalo in Russia, but we got what we got.

[@problematicspaghettios]

​@Muxxyy Then explain why they're called "the king of the jungle" then HHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMM checkmate pessimist!!!

[@Сайтамен]

Lion Man

[@maxjones9112]

I’ll never understand why Sony thinks we want movies about Spider-Man’s most least interesting side characters. Like we were supposed to get a movie about el muerto, a character that was in 2 Spider-Man issues 20 years ago and a rumored aunt may spy movie. We could be getting projects like a Spider-Man 2099 film, superior Spider-Man film, scarlet spider film, Silk film, a film about one of the spider women, iron patriot film, a showdown between Otto Octavius and Norman Osborn, ends of earth Spider-Man film, a black cat and vulture heist film, a May Parker film, a carnage film, an agent venom film, a film about a serious Venom instead of that obnoxious dipshit in the last 2 venom movies, a Kraven or Morlun film hunting down spider people, and a sinister six film with the most popular Spider-Man villains instead of morbius, but nope, we apparently need solo films about madame web, that blind old woman that never fights in the comics and is just a guide, el muerto, a background wrestler that hasn’t made an appearance since 2005, and morbius, that c list vampire that ppl only know of because of Spider-Man and Blade.

[@dannypalin9583]

John Mulaney has wanted to do a spinoff movie about Spider-Ham for ages and has even written his own pitch. I genuinely want to see this, and Sony could have used it to compete with Zootopia and The Secret Life of Pets. Can you imagine an animated superhero movie with anthropomorphic animals? And it's essentially a Looney Tunes movie? I'd have Spider-Ham over trying to give every Spider-Man villain their own movie.

[@anthonyml7]

I feel the same with DC and Batman. A Batman Beyond movie (trilogy possibly) is doable and could be a total home run. But I feel the talent isn't there at the moment

[@Kingdom007Hearts]

Saw Kraven the hunter last night. It was fine Lot of action and blood More than Venom did It’s not worst than Madame Webb

[@chasehedges6775]

Maybe so but that’s not saying much, really.

[@rogerborg]

Thanks, your writing style Tells me all I need to know About who this film is for

[@IronHayden]

So good lol

[@SpruceMoose-iv8un]

Kraven was full of anti male masculine messaging, father is a toxic masculine male trying to raise his sons to be men, the mother is the feminine women who was wronged by the toxic masculine men. The diverse girl boss saves Kravens life and becomes a strong independent women who is a lawyer, who again saves his life again. Sigh.... nearly walked out of the movie a few times but i had nothing else better to do that day.

[@tc98826]

@@rogerborg I dont know what you mean the guy is a poet who speaks in haikus The real issue is He would spend money To see this inevitable pile of crap

[@TJCID22]

"Kraven is a big deal for comic book fans" SINCE WHEN?!

[@thestoicsoliloquies4041]

Kraven had some great comic stories, especially Kraven's Last Hunt.

[@endoftheworldgaming7547]

"Kraven's Last Hunt" was hands down one of the best Spiderman storylines from late 80's early 90's Spiderman. But it 100% is a character that modern Hollywood could not write and make seem reasonable, sympathetic, or threatening.

[@dannypalin9583]

Venom will still be around. Part of him got left behind in the MCU at the end of No Way Home. They're going to do the Black Suit Arc in either Spider-Man 4 or Secret Wars. Probably the latter, because Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield are absolutely coming back for that movie.

[@bad-people6510]

Kraven the Hunter is a Spider-Man villain whose most interesting story was the one where they killed him off because they didn't have anything else to do with him.

[@dadocta5168]

Perfect timing! I was just about to do the dishes :)

[@joemerkel9699]

"Kraven is a big deal for comic book fans". That, and people who watched the 1990s Spiderman Cartoon. But, you are also correct. He's kind of obscure to General Audiance.

[@Robwithakick]

The trailer for KtH almost, almost makes it look decent. The magic deception of trailers, right?

[@chasehedges6775]

Same with the Dr Strange Multiverse Of Madness trailers. They’re amazing.

[@Сайтамен]

When a man comes around...

[@JR-hr3qc]

I enjoyed Kraven. So the people I saw it with. Got what I expected out of it.

[@Garviel-Loken]

To be fair to Kraven, I think Madame Web had more than a hand in killing the sequel.

[@therealocgamer9701]

Just remembering when Roger Ebert used to dunk on films using box office stats and Rotten Tomatoes scores-oh wait….

[@thechickenman3457]

What do you mean Morbius wasn't a success, Morbius made a Morbillion dollars and got a 344% on rotten tomatoes. it was so successful it was rereleased in theaters to Morb all over us again. It was truly Morbin' Time.

[@Makowh]

The SONY cinematic universe is really just a bunch of high-budget fanfictions

[@fabiodelpiero3722]

My fave part was when the protagonist shouted "IT'S KRAVEN TIME!" and my entire packed cinema stood up and applauded.

[@toybugcarl]

Joker (the first one) was the only comic book film to be truly successful about a villain with no association to its protagonist hero. Figured they’d learn their lesson the first time Cat woman attempted it but they just keep trying. The only reason Venom did as well as it did was due to its familiarity and of course the tease of it including Spider-Man at some point.

[@Rogue-a-Pogue]

The thing the Joker and the Penguin series had in common was that they weren't villains who relied on superpowers and thus a ton of special effects in order to get audiences interested. They had down to earth stakes and the emphasis was on their characterisation and why they became the people they did. A 'spiderverse' Kingpin movie might have actually had the chance to work well if well written, but he's more commonly associated with Daredevil than Spider-man now. This is why I'm curious about the new 'Clayface' project DC has greenlit. Still a great character but considering he'll require a lot of CG in order to bring to life and unless it's handled well an audience jaded with so much special effect laden superheroes may not take it seriously.

[@kerravon4159]

They were _actually_ thinking of making Madame Web 2? Seriously? Wow...

[@Dtjgfft]

I couldn’t stop cracking up watching the new rhino in leaked clips. The cgi looks so weird, especially his face. It’s like a rock with these fake ass eyes from Blade 3 and a nose. Spoilers for the 3 people that care about this movie but I started dying when rhino was somehow launched in the air by a buffalo and then got ran over by a bunch of buffalos.

[@saeeeeed]

Hey Drinker I'd say Kraven is worth the watch. Just the fact that there's no sassy characters or forced quips makes it one of the better comic books-based movies in the last five years (yes, expectations are kinda low now). Russell Crowe's acting is great as a ruthless father, and other relationships between characters that I don't want to spoil here. The only downside to it is that people's marksmanship is really bad in this movie, but that's a running joke with Stormtroopers which doesn't bring the quality of Star Wars movies down. I would like to hear your opinion on Kraven, Drinker. If ever you give the movie a watch either at the movies now, or months later on a streaming service, share your thoughts!

[@robotdude2206]

Yeah, Kraven had a lot of plot armor when getting shot at in open fields. But I agree, the movie was fairly entertaining with some genuinely compelling character dynamics. It could have been better, but it also could have been much worse.

[@gordoncutter9241]

Solid take. You hit upon all the points. Only thing I'd add is that some of the CG is wonky, and you never really get a clear sense of Kraven's powers - especially their limits. But otherwise the movie was very solid. I especially agree: what really made it was the intrafamily dynamics between the father and two sons. I knew that there was a reason that Russell Crowe did this movie - apart from the paycheck, obviously.

[@barbarianlibertarian9200]

I’m surprised Tom Hardy agreed to comeback for Venom after the first movie. Dude, has been in some of the best movies and tv made in the last 15-20 years. He picks great characters and nails them. Venom was cartoonish it was so bad.

[@andrewzach1921]

Can you pick a movie he was the main actor in that has made money in the last ten years

[@zfesilva4605]

Kraven: "My mother was bitten by a spider in the jungle."

[@redmuskratt]

I know negative youtube videos get more eyes, but in the heart of trying to fix things.... If they adapted Kraven's Last Hunt into a movie, I bet you dollars to donuts it would be fantastic. As long as I'm fixing stuff, a Rogue solo movie would be amazing. Her backstory is tragic and the way her powers work would be easy to grab at heartstrings.

[@eliotduke1753]

Kravens last hunt would've been cool.

[@lewieanderson6579]

Kraven "this movie is gonna flop!" Captain African-American: Brave New World "hold my beer"

[@devanman7920]

Can't believe we're not getting Madame Web 2. World's not fair at times.

[@yelsahblah3270]

Say what you want about Morbius but I managed to watch it from start to finish and felt mildly entertained, unlike Aquaman which I legitimately just got up midway through and started washing dishes. I didn't even care, I still have no idea how it ended and have no desire to learn.

[@JohnB-nk8ze]

Pretty sure it ended with Amber Heard taking a dump in the ocean, then blaming the sea-triarchy.

[@cubancarp3019]

There are reports that Sony will still continue the universe. If that’s true, it confirms that they’re just money laundering. These movies are trash but I’ll give Sony this, at least it’s entertaining watching them fail and they don’t lash out at fans and instead blame actors. The actors also seem chill and will join fans and mock their movies. They don’t act like their movie was made by Jesus or something. It’s refreshing after dealing with ppl like Bob Iger, mark ruffulo, Kathleen Kennedy, Rian Johnson, Tatiana Maslany, Nia DeCosta, that woman from the acolyte who’s name I can’t be bothered to remember, and the wonderful Rachel zegler.

[@ralphengland8559]

I can't lie... I thoroughly enjoyed Kraven. It was terrible, but it was kinda charming... not despite it's bad-ness, but maybe because of? I would watch it again (same as I would Venom 1), and would like a sequel. Kraven 2 please.

[@done9137]

No. Stop it. That's why we have sucky movies in the first place because executives know ppl like you will give them money for shit flicks.😂😂

[@gordoncutter9241]

Curious: what do you think is terrible about it? I saw it yesterday and the only thing I'd point out is some of the CG. But the plot and overall tone was solid.

[@mroctober3657]

If anything killed Madame Webb 2, it was Madame Webb 1.

[@indiajohnson]

Reads the title of this video: They were actually planning a sequel!?

[@elcambiollego]

Madame Web commited spidercide even though she saw it coming.

[@JustMe-om2dk]

Still better than recent MCU efforts

[@gordoncutter9241]

Best Marvel thing since Daredevil Season 3, in my opinion. And if we're talking films: Best since Punisher War Zone.

[@doberski6855]

🤔If my choice is between watching 'The Crow', or 'Kraven' at my local cinema. I think I would walk by the theater on my way to the library to get a book to read.

[@LastSunrise1981]

Whoa, whoa. Which "The Crow" are we talking about here?

[@doberski6855]

@@LastSunrise1981 The remake from 2024. The original is still one of my favourite movies and never needed a remake!

[@LastSunrise1981]

@@doberski6855 I agree 100% with you. Wanted to make sure we were on the same thought process.

[@thehouseofoverthinking]

I can't decide who will be mourned for the most: Brian Thompson or the Sony Spiderman Universe

[@Grubnar]

Wait, what? He is not dead, is he?

[@redheads604]

sony has no quality control. This is how we got the gem that is Concord.

[@JOEYgrim]

…got an advert for Venom 3 while watching this

[@13ShelbyGuy]

Kraven did a back flip, karate chop and the bad guy was out

[@squintinmusic1533]

I saw kraven this weekend no one else was in the theatre. It was actually enjoyable but with a niche character and no trust from the audience no one will give it a chance

[@HSB819]

So because of this, we're not getting a madam web sequel, damn it, just damn it, that movie made madamillion dollars

[@Tim_the_Enchanter]

No Madame Web sequel? Well ... that's very disappointing.

[@chasehedges6775]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@rogerhalt3991]

Movies way before Morbius should have been a marker of reference 😂

[@zekromfan1]

I honestly wouldn’t mind a smaller spin off series, maybe a show but probably not a movie. Centered around Oscorp and it’s rise to prominence alongside Norman’s slow decent into madness as he becomes the Green Goblin. Spider-Man would only ever be a looming presence, he wouldn’t appear except maybe as a cameo in the final episode, and the series would be more of a character piece rather than an action series. Show us the man behind the monster, in a similar way that Joker did. But unlike Joker, there wouldn’t be a bigger message to take from it. It isn’t trying to say anything about society, rather show us how even someone as put together and capable as Norman was, can become something so dramatically different than who he really is. In the end maybe the Green Goblin was just his imagination acting up and all the terror he inflicts is just his dark desires coming out. Or it’s all real and despite needing help, nobody is either willing, capable, or knows that it’s needed. Maybe those at the top are letting this happen for money or power. Whatever the reason the audience would be capable of seeing why he might be willing to become the way he is, but that while sympathetic he isn’t some sort of martyr. He doesn’t stand for anything, there is no grander purpose to his actions. He acts without restraint, like the Hulk if he lacked a conscience. A monster unleashed with only fragments of the man he once was remaining. It could be really compelling, too bad nobody in Hollywood is capable of writing a story like that.

[@darthrubik8384]

Wasn't even aware it was out till now

[@zaleost]

Honestly if Sony really was hell bent on making Spider-Man films not using the traditional Spider-Man they would have had far better luck just using some of the alternative versions (especially as the Spiderverse films have put a lot more of them in the spotlight), rather than taking the villains that they think they can spin in to anti-heroes.

[@nasarys3085]

Yes ! I want Ben Reilly, and maybe Jessica Drew even if she's not really linked to Peter Parker

[@MsFated]

We all know there was never going to be a Madame Web 2 😂😂

[@woodwyrm]

We all know what we miss with not getting a Madame Web 2; Sydney Sweeney and her Sweeneys lmao

[@gordoncutter9241]

Guys, if you're even remotely curious about going to see this film, I'll just say this as someone who avoids everything and anything cinematic Marvel since Punisher War Zone: This film should be approached as a 90's style throwback R rated high concept action film. It's like if Edgar Rice Burrough's Tarzan was in David Morrell's First Blood (the character started off as a Tarzan knock-off and there are even homages to the Stallone film in this one). It's got more in common with something like Commando than any other recent MCU film. So if you go in expecting a fantastical, violent, one man army type action film, I don't think you'll be disappointed. This movie is not made for Marvel or Spider Man fans, even though it does pay respect to the character as written by Jim DeMatteis in Kraven's Last Hunt. But none the less, if you're a Marvel fanboy, I would recommend staying away. The main drawbacks, for me, were the wonky CG in those scenes where the film felt obligated to deliver on the superhero spectacle (it's the same trap all of these films fall into), and also the movie didn't do a good job in clearly laying out the full extent of Kraven's powers - and, more important, his limitations. But overall the movie does more right than it does wrong. What put it over the top for me were there surprisingly gory and creative action scenes - specifically those where it's just Kraven mowing down the human adversaries; and - arguably more important - the intrafamily dynamics between the father and two sons. Those scenes especially have real dramatic heft and I'm not going to lie: I felt them. I give me the movie, as it is and for what it is, a solid 7/10. I didn't regret laying down the cinema bucks. If this review resonates with you go and see it - give it a chance and make up your own mind.

[@breach005]

Im plugged into all the channels like Drinker, movie news, etc, and still had NO IDEA this piece of hot dog shite even came out lol.

[@BHank762]

@7:06 The exit

[@HowToChangeName]

Refund and terminate friendship with whoever give a ticket

[@Sirfinchyyy]

I only know of Craven because he appeared as a throw-away character in a Spider Man cartoon that aired over 5 yrs ago. Never payed him a 2nd thought.

[@scotsmanic7783]

"Rotten tomadoes." "It's doing bedder." I like how CD is sounding more and more American. Risible.

[@TheFriarduc]

Heroes are characters that you can imagine yourself in the role. None of the modern “heroes” are seen as emulate-able.

[@georgemeyers7172]

I liked the Venom Movies, kinda a shame that we won't get anymore of that. . .

[@davidpa9266]

How dare you insult Canon Films. They made some of the most entertaining schlock ever put to film.

[@americanhero1234]

Craven is a "D" list Spidey villain!!!

[@alexey635able]

Didn’t know there was supposed to be madam web 2.

[@ccptube3468]

All films Hollywood make has been trash for many years now.

[@benjaminmccoy6828]

They should’ve had Venom as a stand-in for Spider-Man. A Venom-verse where he fights alongside Morbius and is hunted by Kraven and the Sinister Six.

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

Sony’s Spiderverse died when you realized that Spider-Man himself wasn’t never going to show up.

[@bghoody5665]

Maybe Sony was introducing all these Spiderman villains so they could eventually have a movie where they all team up against Spiderman. That could be neat.

[@jonesjack6088]

And there was much rejoicing.

[@goofinshmertz5390]

So Kraven isn't going to make a Kravillion dollars? HERESY

[@Subninja2012]

Thank you Kraven.

[@Slyarno2795]

Well the sony spider-man spin off universe is done.

[@chasehedges6775]

Gone, reduced to atoms.

[@Red-zh7vq]

Who would’ve thought a Spider-Man movie with no Spider-Man in it would fail so bad? 🤔

[@YouMissedBro]

Ive been Kraven a good movie for 4 years now. Still waiting for anything that isnt a John Wick or Deadpool sequel

[@AdrianEN]

4:40 note to self

[@pheonixblue01]

I heard Kraven and kept thinking of Vandal Savage for some reason. They keep forgetting that the only really interesting characters in the Spider Man comics were Spider Man and his very close friends/enemies. No one else had any real development and their powers were either ridiculously powerful or lame.

[@Mangolorian-je3eo]

Welp, at least now I know what Echo Chamberlain looks like.

[@michaelcarbone6101]

Thanks

[@GearWukong]

Funny how madam webb didn’t see this coming…which canonically is pretty on brand for all versions of her.

[@AscendantStoic]

"It's Kravening time" 😅

[@nimdro]

The notion Spider-Man movies without Spider-Man could work is utter madness. They deserve to loose all the money sunken into this

[@rogerborg]

I'm treating myself to a double-feature this weekend: I'm pairing a non-watch of Kraven with a back-to-back avoidance of War of the Roherrim.

[@mercaius]

As a Spider-Man TV fan, I could have been willing to watch a movie about Morbius or Kraven -- if we didn't live in the 2020s and the contemporary media industry.

[@kevinjones6020]

I don't agree with the sentiment. Venom movies were fine. I really enjoyed Morbius and have seen it a few times. Went to see Kraven later night and loved the stunts and action. Aaron and Russell were really good. I think the editing of Kraven could have improved the pace a little maybe.

[@gordoncutter9241]

I can't go there with you on any of the Venom films but Morbius was alright, at best. Kraven is heads and shoulders above both though. Not a flawless film by any stretch, but solid. There's a pile on happening for this film. People just want to shit on it.

[@BenDavies1977]

I'm not sure if you're forgetting that the film companies, or distributor, generally only get 50% of the worldwide box office back. The films you've mentioned must have made big losses when you add on at least $100m for marketing 😮

[@grayavatar9766]

Is Russell Crowe playing Zeus again?

[@ScottEgan69]

Ugh. THAT was peak low. It was like Russell Crowe was doing an SNL skit. Thor Love & Thunder needs to be memory holed for that. In Kraven, Crowe plays Kraven's evil daddy-o. It's a role I don't think he took too seriously. His performance, for me, was just him getting a paycheck. (I love a lot of Russell Crowe films.)

[@MIGHTYBOOSCH198]

Kraven is a great Spiderman villain... trouble is you need spiderman in that equation

[@dragunov815]

Quality control is essential.

[@Brolygarcia92]

Also the Venom movies had people in seats because they always had the promised to put Spider-Man in them, wich the never fully delivered.

[@julianlord5366]

I actually like the in-your-face craptasticness of the Kraven trailers, because sometimes sheer awfulness is hugely entertaining. And BTW the original 1960s and early 1970s Spider-Man comics with Kraven the Hunter were all grotesquely awful. I can remember reading them as a child and thinking -- what is this grotesque and nonsensical character ? I actually think that Kraven being bitten by a radioactive lion is the single most fun thing they've ever done with him.

[@roflo2296]

Everyone is so disappointed that the Sony-verse is over. What will we do now