Drinker's Chasers - Willow Is Really Bad

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

The reason the original Willow was so great is clearly because the original was created by Jennifer Lawrence.

[@stxrobstar]

LOL

[@scottcantdance804]

She was the first woman to ever write a fantasy novel.

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

@@scottcantdance804 She wrote AND starred in The Hunger Games.

[@starwarsroo2448]

She conceived the first dwarf

[@Khazandar]

@@starwarsroo2448 Wait, I thought that was Sophia Nomvete :O

[@apex403]

I watched the movie Willow with my 5 y/o daughter today, she LOVED it Then she saw the poster of it on Disney+ later this evening and asked if that is part 2 (I explained its a show instead of a movie) - she asked to watch it... i groaned but still played it for her, and after 20 minutes she said "This isn't very good... can we watch something else" FIVE and she couldn't stand it lol. There's nothing fantastical about it.

[@fuzzyfennec7493]

This is the best proof of how crap these new subverted shows are. 5 year olds don't like it! Just like with the new Star Wars, kids are turned off by it and the toys don't sell

[@louisbrown4620]

The new Marvel too. They can tell the difference between the older Iron Man stuff and the new woke garbage.

[@vermis8344]

That child is being brought up right.

[@jasemac5391]

Lol that’s Gold 👍🏻🇦🇺

[@heath622]

Don't believe you

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

Rings of Power: "One show to CRINGE them all!!!" Willow (2022) "Hold my lesbian wand..."

[@starwarsroo2448]

Forget all you woke, or think you're woke

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

@@starwarsroo2448 🤔🤔🤨🤨🤨?????

[@Rina_Marina_30]

I screamed for like 5 min straight 🤣

[@glennross85]

Watching the lesbian princess seethe over Alora being the chosen one is one of the best parts of the show 👍

[@hannah1948]

I know!! I was so sad to see that they made willow a Woke production. I hade hope for it.

[@X525Crossfire]

What's really baffling is Disney did the "rescue the high profile prisoner" better 20 years ago in Pirates of the Caribbean. When Elizabeth was taken by the crew of the Black Pearl, Governor Swann didn't plan to send Will, a blacksmith's apprentice, and Jack Sparrow - he planned to send the Royal f***ing Navy on a warship with a lot of f***ing cannons. It's okay to have the main characters as an intrepid party of adventurers trying to rescue the prince, but DON'T make them *the* plan to save him. It's not like this is a hard concept to grasp - when trying to rescue one VIP, don't send another (or two or three) VIP(s) into the proverbial lion's den to do it.

[@CleverGirlAAH]

Excellent comparison. The problem is-- you're thinking. lol You are not the modern audience these publishers are looking for anymore.

[@frocat5163]

It's like we're dealing with writers who have some friends who play tabletop RPGs and have decided that hearing second-hand retellings of a D&D adventure played 10 years ago is enough to qualify them to write a fantasy series...

[@lincolnduke]

I don't know why but I thought of the Guardians of the Galaxy. There's the scene where the entire planet's navy tries to stop the bad guy landing on the planet, so 500 fighter ships show up and get completely destroyed before the hero's show up and save the day. This is like the Navy instead just choosing to not do anything because, well, the protagonists are coming in their one ship...

[@faustomadebr]

Funny you mention this, because I watched Pirates last night. Also, for Willow, he was not even respected by his village. His journey was not to save the baby, but to deliver her to the first man he met. The warriors just went because the village leader asked them, after he was pushed by the village mage... So, Willow was nothing, but grew as a hero. The journey the woke people ignore is exactly what makes our heroes real, inspiring and remembered.

[@BlackhaloZ]

@@frocat5163 I'm pretty sure that a group of D&D players collaboratively acting out and telling an adventure is far better than what I've seen in Willow so far.

[@AS-fu1kd]

Imagine if actors were chosen for depth of performance. Imagine if writers were chosen based on skill.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Exemplary writing and genuine performances are things of the past. Narcissism, money, power, and social influence have long overshadowed both for decades. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨

[@mat2000100]

@@Novastar.SaberCombat It's not about the money, its about sending THE MESSAGE

[@trevorthornley8835]

@@Novastar.SaberCombat I just watched a couple of Darth maul and ahsoka scenes and I read that in Darth maul's voice.

[@nearlyrighteouslad3213]

That's racist

[@jtamezf]

Equity hiring across the board…..so brave!

[@Notsram77]

I grew up with the Film, and every day I pray that Disney forgets about my favorite properties.

[@Parasiteve]

oh good im not the only one who does this lol. im praying the ewok adventure movie from like, 84 doesn't get remade, it was my fav as a kid i watched it sooo much and im just like "please dont remake it"

[@reubensandwich9249]

I know man. Now matter how much I brace myself for Amazon's Bladerunner reboot, it'll never be enough.

[@asgardiangod23]

This is me constantly with Conan the Barbarian lol

[@youtubeshadowbannedmylasta2629]

they are working on a fallout, so that really sucks. member hearing about this kinda stuff and feeling something other than complete dread? because I do.

[@AbuHajarAlBugatti]

@@reubensandwich9249 it will only finish when anything reminding of the white race, christianity, tradtionalism and libertarianism will be gone. Maybe Psychologically prepare for that now. All you know will be gone inna decade. Just look at all the movies, shows, Advertisements and excess of interracial Porn(of whose ALL directors are jewish) brainwashing this Generation. They want white people gone. And why always a white woman? Because a white woman doesent give the Y chromosomes to the children, making white people go extinct X chromosomes make up 900 genes Y chromosome another 50 extra genes

[@drkavnger99]

Willow was a guilty nostalgic pleasure. Absolutely didn't need to be continued.

[@z2ei]

I felt that way about the sequel novels, too. Not that they were bad, just weird.

[@jtb6737]

They did make a sequel book, kill everyone in the previous movie accept Willow and Alaura, but she has no memory of who she is or supposed to become.

[@zalamael]

The fact that Willow is so popular, is the REASON it has been continued. Just another Commie attempt to destroy art. They can't erase the original from existence, so instead they 'burn it' by shitting all over it. These continuations are intentionally bad, it is not just a case of bad writing by woke amateurs, it is VERY deliberate. Billion dollar companies don't hire incompetent amateurs who lose them money, they hire professionals. This cannot be anything other than intentional.

[@Oklawolf]

I didn't like the sequel novels at all. Too much of a tonal shift from the movie, I found.

[@baahcusegamer4530]

I am glad someone liked the original. I was never a fan.

[@mikehall7189]

Their old protector, who said he was like a father to the kids, takes an arrow in the chest and they don’t even give a shit! 30 seconds later they are laughing and joking and don’t even mention the poor old guy. Wonderful writing.

[@HerculesBallsInc]

And even that - he takes an arrow in the middle of a vast plain with nobody around for miles and miles. And they all turn and suddenly there's a dozen people on horses and nobody ever saw at all. It's ridiculous.

[@AS-fu1kd]

Was he a man? The death really doesn't matter then

[@GaudiaCertaminisGaming]

@@HerculesBallsInc Perhaps they saw them, then sort of forgot about them GoT style.

[@sergiocesarbribiesca4132]

Am I the only one who thinks some of the criticisms being thrown at willow apply for house of the dragon? Young Rhaenyra is constantly complaining about having to marry someone, having children, the circumstances of her being named heir. Its really tiresome and feels a bit like the drinker said, it's the writers and directors opinions about the role of women in medieval times and not necessarily how a person from those times would think or act.

[@Lord_necromancer]

Well yeah, their father figure was a man and therefore a problem and his death is a good thing.

[@MrGeorgeFlorcus]

I liked the one scene where Princess ( can't be fucked with their names) shit-talked her husband-to-be, and her brother comes in later and is like, "Hey sister, don't worry, I smoothed things over with the prince, everything's okay now, he's actually a really nice guy if you just get to know him," To which the Princess responds by saying, "Why do you have to interfere in my life all the time?!?!" To which the brother responds, "Well, because you're my sister, and I love you, and even though you can be difficult at times, I'm genuinely just looking out for your best interests." And then Princess is like, "GAWWWD STOP BEING SUCH A MAN AND JUST GO AWAY ALREADY!!" And of course I was like, "Wait, a nice and likable character? AND it's a man? Something terrible is going to happen to him." And he gets kidnapped of course lol

[@ajsouza3720]

Well I'll give the show this, I've been the brother character irl so I really sympathized.

[@mrbisshie]

The lady is selfish, she can still have her GF as a lover and marry the guy. She was born into royalty, her marriage can be something that prevents war between two kingdoms, and saves tons of lives from war. Suck it up, marry the guy, and bang your lover on the side.

[@Forests0fFantasy]

When Willow rode into battle on Guy-ladriel's broad shoulders and shouted "You have to be better, Senator!" I was in tears

[@CognosSquare]

Take that Trump!

[@mattjindrak]

Haha this joke format is still funny!!!!

[@bl8388]

So true. But that ableist Wee man trying to tell the most powerful girl who can only magic a plant, and yeet through a force field, so far, how a woman should save the world . Scrote-privilege. 🤰Until he pushes out a baby with only a free lamaze video to help he needs to check his mole-people ego at the door.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

Fucking brilliant 😂

[@ArmyWolves]

😂😂😂😂

[@hashtagPoundsign]

The thing about the original Willow was that willow had no special powers and instead he had determination, and a magic trick that totally bombed the first time we see him try it on screen.

[@KasumiKenshirou]

And he uses that "disappearing pig trick" at the end of the movie to fool the evil queen into thinking he'd sent the baby to another dimension. Since it wasn't "real" magic, she didn't understand how he could do this. And he struggles with performing actual magic, making several attempts to restore Fin Raziel to her human form.

[@miriamweller812]

They are all important and none is the supe duper uber character who saves the day. The twist with Willow being succesful was, that it was so innocent and simple and absurd that someone would try this. That's the reason why it makes sense, that it worked in that moment and that moment was enough.

[@EpictheEpicest]

Exactly, he is a complete fuck-up. And so are all the heroes, Mad Mardigan is a fuck-up, Fin Raziel fails multiple occasions and the female warrior(can't remember name) fails to capture them the whole movie. Flawed characters who try to do good will always be more endearing than perfect, 2-dimensional diversity hires.

[@nathanthom8176]

He had power as limited as it was. He undid the spell/curse on Finn Raziel and although the power he used to do so was nearly all from the wand, a non-magical individual wouldn't have been able to do it at all.

[@alchemystudiosink1894]

@@KasumiKenshirou Its basically how most male protags have always been. They try, they fail, they try some more, they fail some more, but finally in the end they try one last time and succeed. Modern Audience female characters on the other hand just step into a room and the universe shifts for them so that they don't have to try. They just succeed. The smartest man in the room suddenly becomes a complete imbeicile, incapable of figuring out the simplest and easiest to resolve problems the moment the female protag enters the scene, as the writers can only barely figure out 2+2 let alone anything actually clever. Take Legally Blond for example. The Protag in that was an airhead, but she had a set of skills that were out of reach of the male protags. It was a clever way of making her the key to winning the case. Then we get She Hulk.

[@kkslider7567]

I watched it with my family because my dad is a big fan of the willow movie and when we watched it he looked so disappointed. I felt so bad knowing he grew up loving the first movie and seeing it just being butchered in two episodes. Just a shame.

[@Parasiteve]

F in the replies for your dads childhood.

[@ngkngk875]

It’s obvious looking at the state of the movie industry where it was headed.

[@Chris-ji4iu]

I actually made it through the first three episodes. I tried. Really. It is terrible.

[@jjm152]

I'm 47 and refuse to watch any remakes of anything that I enjoyed as a child. If I watch something with my kids, it's always the original and I flat out refuse to let them watch any "live action" remakes of any animated film. They might get annoyed at me now, but they'll thank me later when they're older.

[@ciscornBIG]

@@Parasiteve F

[@SwaggerLikeUz]

As a fan of the original Kathleen Kennedy needs to be fired! Willow was an 80's cult classic never meant to be brought back & literally sacrificed on the "Woke Hollyweird altar".

[@simonhadley8829]

She needs to be dragged into the public forum and lit on fire as a message to the world.

[@MichaelAS-el1xo]

You gotta use punctuation man.

[@hackbertgrutzkotz7653]

@@MichaelAS-el1xo "As a fan of the original Kathleen Kennedy..." i was like WTF!😂😂😂

[@liamphibia]

I want KK fired just as much as you do. There will come a time, so we'll be patient as we watch Lucasfilm projects burn.

[@paokalexthes]

I like how when disney produces good content Kennedy does not get credit (Andor for example) but when there is a miss she is the one that gets the blame lol

[@ShaneMakesMovies]

That point about modern language showing up in high fantasy settings bothers me to no end, so thanks for bringing it up. People don't seem to ever talk about. It happened a lot in the Star Wars sequel trilogy too and even a few characters in God of War: Ragnarok do it. It just pulls me out.

[@AS-fu1kd]

Immersion isn't allowed anymore. Movies and shows need to constantly remind you of the real world

[@ShaneMakesMovies]

@@AS-fu1kd such a sad thought. Fiction is meant to transport you AWAY from reality for a while.

[@CognosSquare]

Senator Palpatine: L.O.L. guys! Like F those Endor clowns.

[@TorinR90]

@@CognosSquare Hahaha "Oh fam, order 66 is so lit" "Fuck around and find out Anakin!"

[@trolleriffic]

@@AS-fu1kd It's also the result of writers who have very little education and grounding in literature. They simply don't have the vocabulary or understanding of the different ways you can write so all their output is essentially a transcript of the conversations they have with their friends and colleagues.

[@SimpleTricksNonsense]

Disney's Willow: An inner city High school production of a classic tale or fantasy where the Drama teacher tells the students they can "update" the source material.

[@CleverGirlAAH]

Revisionist History at its finest.

[@zombrero7870]

6:54 "This is the writer's mindset getting projected into a character that shouldn't have those attitudes." Every show is She-Hulk now

[@dairoleon2682]

You mean Captain Marvel?

[@praetoriandorn3154]

The gimmick of totally uncreative narcissists; make every character an even more extreme version of themselves.

[@RanMouri82]

Every show's lead is a Mary Sue.

[@alanredversangel]

I was entertained by She Hulk, Willow is something else. Everything they do and say in it is wrong.

[@chasehedges6775]

Poor Warwick Davis. He deserves better and he’s an amazing actor.

[@M0butu]

He did it for the dough, nothing else. Not much glory in it but relatable.

[@apesheet_crzy1430]

hahhahahah dude wtf...

[@chasehedges6775]

@@M0butu Guess I can’t blame him.

[@RambleOn07]

I'd honestly rather watch it if Warwick Davis was the only member of the main cast.

[@lotsofspots]

He's definitely not bothering with acting in most of the series so far.

[@Future_Imperfect]

"She has a ginger afro. I don't know what she did to offend the Gods to end up like that but it must have been pretty bad." Pretty damn funny

[@Devilsblood]

@@iamtherealrauschguy I'll be frank: she's not attractive, her acting is meh and even as unusual as she looks, she still is bland as hell. It's like driving a van in Nascar.

[@vincentbeton]

@@iamtherealrauschguy To be fair, that is mightily convenient to check as many boxes as economically as possible. She's like a Captain Planet, without needing to hire the diverse Teenagers on the side

[@AnoNymous-gn6tl]

@@vincentbeton You said it perfectly. It's a shame that good storytelling in (most) modern movies has taken a backseat for the sake of tribalism agenda.

[@joriankell1983]

Race mixing is cruelty to children

[@chrisadams8182]

@@iamtherealrauschguy You’re right. The obsession started with Solo and will never end!

[@sporkenste1n236]

I was ten when the movie came out, and I was hooked on it immediately mostly because I thought General Kael looked so badass (I still want a movie accurate replica of that helmet). Years ago I bought it on DVD and watched it again for the first time in a long time, and I came to appreciate Warwick Davis and Val Kilmer's performances. I still love the movie, and was somewhat excited for the new series until I realized the movie works best as a one off. It didn't need a follow up, and given Disney's track record with the IPs they've acquired, I knew better than to think it would be much different from anything else they've vomited out in recent years.

[@sarahbreisch4750]

I always liked Eric. "Sit in your coffin and rot."

[@rkwatchauralnautsjediparty7303]

The tv spots that featured Kael _really_ sparked the imagination. I was also 10 and thought that was his actual skull until I saw the movie.

[@rubix4195]

Val Kilmer and Joanne Whalley had chemistry on the film too.

[@ChainedFei]

Regarding the language issue, it is called "Genre Language Affectation". Genre's are supposed to sound like their Genre.... but Disney apparently sticks common earth language into all of its properties. It was the most jarring thing in Star Wars: The Force Awakens. When you lack a Genre Language Affectation (Which is a component of any story), you create a script that is incongruous with the genre it is supposed to portray. It's a portion of setting and world building that is necessary in cinema.

[@richardhockey8442]

writers who don't know anything about the setting because they don't read (any) books, and/or just can't be bothered

[@CleverGirlAAH]

@@richardhockey8442 "Malodorous" "What does that mean?" "Stinky" "Why don't you just say stinky then?? What's the point, like-- ?"

[@adelucas4824]

Star Trek did the same. Suddenly everyones dropping F bombs for no reason

[@bujharvard9313]

@@adelucas4824 It's really bad in modern Trek. As if a Starfleet admiral would be dropping F bombs in a formal setting.

[@chatteyj]

Its called shit writing isn't it?

[@RealSoLucien]

Willow was the best D&D movie ever, they get the band together and march off to face evil gaining strength along the way. I know that wasn't the intention but I was super into D&D at the time and it spoke to me.

[@c0m4g1bb]

no one cares nerd

[@erroneous6947]

One of the many good movies to play while you play D&D.

[@Lord_Numpty]

I beg your pardon? While it may have been an enjoyable movie (honestly don't remember, only watched it in middle school), The Gamers 2; Dorkness Rising is the best D&D movie.

[@Robin-lg6mz]

@@Lord_Numptydorkness is a classic

[@anthonyhiggins9799]

Time Bandits is another good one. Very D&D styled.

[@gregviews]

Another thing about falcon and the winter soldier Is how tf a bunch of teens and untrained terrorists could fight fully trained heroes? The falcon could've beaten the main villain in the 1st episode if it was written well.

[@chasehedges6775]

Bucky would have DEMOLISHED them! He’s THE WINTER SOLDIER, for Pete’s sake!

[@gregviews]

Chase Hedges67 like bro wtf 🤣 even the US agent could've folded them especially after he took the serum bro was a US special force agent for crying out loud 🤣

[@pedrokantor3997]

Oh yes the show that killed my interest for the MCU. How Captain Falcon left a gunshot-wounded Carter behind to do a dumb political speech was unforgivable. Steve would never do that.

[@CMCAdvanced]

Because Falcon is unbelievable as Captain America

[@zacharyrollick6169]

@@pedrokantor3997 Hey, don't you insult Captain Falcon by associating him with the MCU.

[@MaxskiSynths]

Everything feels like a parody of itself now.

[@AS-fu1kd]

The whole damn world feels like a parody of itself

[@juicybiscuit527]

Right? Lebron is such a pansy ace flop fish.

[@memoryhero]

This should be the title of almost every "culture war" video for the last decade.

[@Soundwave32791]

So in other words, everything nowadays is suffering from Family Guy and Simpsons syndrome.

[@notsure4648]

Surely you can't be serious.

[@MykeruMedia]

Willow is one of my favorite films. Not only is it charming, but my Aunt worked on it (sculpting in styro for the Troll Castle). It's sad it fell into the woke reboot/remake wood chipper.

[@chatteyj]

Cool I'd love to know more about it, its conception where it was filmed etc.

[@asarishepard8171]

Your aunt worked on it? Cool!

[@MykeruMedia]

@@asarishepard8171 yeah I never really peered into the credits that far, but she would be credited as Laura MacKenzie or under whatever company that she and her common law husband Eddie formed. I know she also worked on 12 Monkeys. There's a scene in a department store where you briefly glimpse this large Statue of an Angel. Eddie sculpted that and cast it in resin. My parents house has a resin cast of the head of the statue as well as this eagle and American flag that Eddie made also casti in resin

[@MykeruMedia]

@@chatteyj I'm not sure. But it was certainly filmed in studio such as pinewood or shepparton studios.

[@asarishepard8171]

@@MykeruMedia dude thats amazing :)

[@billbadson7598]

Willow is the most cherished movie of my childhood. After hearing this, I'll never watch this. I can't do that to myself.

[@brennefleisch]

The trailer scenes with Warwick Davis casting magic get me excited, then I remember it's a modern Disney production and those feelings sink away. Going to rewatch the movie with my boys this week instead.

[@captaindropkik]

When Magogg mentioned that Kit realises she isn't that good because everyone's been taking it easy on her, my head genuinely tilted a little bit as I thought "huh that actually sounds interesting though" but obviously they won't show her failing

[@chasehedges6775]

Would have liked more of that.

[@marychocolatefairy]

I saw the clip of when she realized that, and it wasn't that interesting, lol. It was just her girlfriend that the realization was about; she found out her girlfriend, a knight or something, had been letting her win their sparring contests.

[@mrillis9259]

So she has life set on easy. Interesting.

[@AS-fu1kd]

Rich and well written characters are NOT okay

[@jared6200]

She does end up on her ass in every fight she's in, and all the fights so far have been exactly the same. She tries to fight, falls on her ass, and someone has to save her. First by her girfriend, and then by Willow using magic.

[@bast8081]

Disney spent billions to buy Lucas film, which had a huge built-in fan base. To see how they mishandled the IPs and mishandled these beloved franchises is so bewildering.

[@bkatbamna]

It isn't bewildering at all: the idiots that they hired to oversee them care more about brainwashing people than making money for the people they work for.

[@TheGahta]

Yeah prior to the sequels i was hopeful, i thought "yeah of they slashed the EU so they can grab the best ideas and print money hands over fist" Boi was i wrong, ep7 rolls around and ten minutes in i understood this

[@garrettviewegh677]

For me, what’s most insulting, is that Kathleen Kennedy once said: “there’s no stories to base more films off of” regarding the sequels. Yet, they took the well-crafted stories of the EU, and threw them away, ignoring them.

[@jhonviel7381]

if your an american, just look how our government handles our taxes, and how dictators and banks handle most of the wealth of humanity and squander it. honestly it just says a lot about our society

[@flacjacket]

It's not bewildering at all. We don't have capitalism we have managerialism. The idea of capitalism is that the capitalist (owners of the means of production) have the power of control over how those means are exercised. Very early on in the capitalist revolution the capitalist class ceded this control over to a managerial class who executed the day to day business while the capitalists took the profits and fucked off into their personal lives. Over time the ownership became entirely divorced from the directive control, particularly in the case of publicly traded corporation where the ownership became incredibly diffuse, spread across thousands or millions of investors rendering management effectively all but unaccountable. This managerial class came to view the institutions which they manage as existing to serve them rather than the other way around. Thus in a demotistic society they become powerful vehicles by which the managerial classes personal politics can be advanced with little regard to profitability, up until the point that the hemeroghing becomes terminal as the capital of the institution is exhausted.

[@SuperDoggy99]

3:38 The late Ursula K. LeGuin wrote a fantastic essay on the "language of fantasy" called From Elfland to Poughkeepsie, in which she explains why so many works of fantasy utterly fail because the writer uses language that is far too modern. The main insight is that, if you can transplant the conversation into a modern novel or television show--if the dialogue sounds like two characters discussing a court case, in an episode of Law and Order--then it's probably not fit for fantasy. These days, almost ALL "fantasy" that is written by young people--or callow writers in general--sounds like this; they have no "feel" for language and no understanding of why Tolkien, LeGuin, Norton, Moorcock, etc. endure to this day. I can excuse the modern vernacular--and over use of idiomatic english--in cartoons (like the Dragon Prince) or comedies (like the Legend of Vox Machina)--but in multi-million dollar productions, and the endless parade of boring stories that are passed off today as SF/F, it's just lazy and inexcusable. You can tell these "writers" are barely literate, don't know anything about their chosen genre, and are willfully flouting the idea that writers from previous generations were better. More than anything, they're just ignorant and untalented, and it shows. This is why they often fall back on "activism" to make up for their lack of anything artistic and/or original to impart. The archetypes of heroic fiction, character, etc., and the requisite language needed to give them life, are completely lost on these people.

[@zappodude7591]

It's how I felt reading Mistborn. Brandon isn't as bad as you describe here (a lot of his fans are worse) but you can tell he's writing from a very different perspective which lacks the gravity of Tolkein. Plus he just doesn't construct sentences very well.

[@SuperDoggy99]

I haven't read anything by Brandon Sanderson, but I have watched a few of his interviews and listened to his young fans "gush" about what can only be described as stock, or "standard fare", ideas/stories. He seems to have a good grasp of narrative structure and what makes for a good story. Oddly enough, I have been reading the Wheel of Time series for the first time in decades. I put that one down, years and years ago, because I couldn't stand Jordan's writing. I've since learned to find the "charm" in his self-taught style and turn of phrase. The first book is really badly done, but the series gets a lot better as Jordan finds his footing. It'll be interesting to see how Sanderson handles the final books in the series.

[@wilder11]

Calling Legend of Vox Machina a comedy is tantamount to heresy.

[@louisbrown4620]

I’d throw Raymond Feist in there too.

[@mohamedbelkacem9889]

@@wilder11 legend of vox machina is based on an actual campaign, I expect that by default makes the story more rigid.

[@atomicviking2497]

"It's like you pick up a load of 20-year-olds in Southern California and dump them into a fantasy world and say 'have at it.'" --Modern-day writers' room

[@MrMikellsof88]

There's one message they accidentally pushed as well. When the princess lashed out at her brother, one of the things she made clear was the reason she's the way she is is because their father "ran away". So the message that scene sends is that kids do require a strong male role model in their life. But moments before that, they just established the whole "women rule and men are toxic arseholes" message.

[@PhilosophicallyAmerican]

She needed her papa.

[@fairwarning007]

The best thing about the original Willow IMO is Val Kilmer as Madmartigan. At least with him not being able to be in this rendition, they can’t ruin his character (supposedly). Seriously, I can just imagine them portraying him as the “toxic male”, giving him the Han Solo treatment in having him abandon his own son and “going back to the only thing I was ever good at” bs. Smh.

[@iandevine3063]

I mean han solo is kind of suppose to be a toxic a$$ at the start of episode 4, I think they ruined him in having him be such a good guy when that character growth doesn't come until episode 4.

[@tbone2646]

@@iandevine3063 he was introduced as a shady dude from a shady bar - it should have been left at that, sometimes it's better to leave a little bit to the imagination

[@gothamgoon4237]

They already have. They made Madmartigan a dead beat dad.

[@fairwarning007]

@Diomedes seriously??? Shit, I haven’t watched the show yet and am definitely not going to now. Screw that bs.

[@miriamweller812]

Since he is meaningful in turning the daughter of the evil queen to good, he would likely become a woman for that and won't be goofy anymoure just cocky and super competent.

[@thepsychicspoon5984]

Oh, thank goodness. I felt like the only person in the world who felt this way about Willow.

[@scottcantdance804]

Nah, check out the RT audience reviews. I knew it would be hot garbage right when I saw the disparity between the critic and audience score.

[@RambleOn07]

@@scottcantdance804 I saw the casting and costume choices then decided to skip it.

[@youtubeshadowbannedmylasta2629]

wait till you see what they will do to fallout. its gonna suck big sweaty balls.

[@waynehewett4017]

Willows just another victim that Disney sucks dry then throws away the corpse then on to the next one Abit like a bloody vampire

[@sgt.thundercok4704]

Yes, for a second there, you were 'Neo' in your mind oh special one.

[@MrmorpheuZ]

Things are bad when a dwarf with an acorn is considered to be the better plot of the 2 iterations

[@starwarsroo2448]

Does peck point his acorn at anyone

[@Bobby.2000]

Ohhh, help help, somebody help, there's a little peck pointing an acorn at me

[@zappodude7591]

And the acorn wasn't even useful.

[@BluntmanEXE]

I actually got that reference. God, I feel old.

[@multitimmytiger2]

I just picked up a pine cone. Look at me! I'm the greatest wizard ever!

[@PhilosophicallyAmerican]

On the subject of royal marriages: Remember the "Three Musketeers" movie from about 20 years ago? The queen (who was drop-dead gorgeous, by the way) is upset with the arranged marriage at first, but by the end they were head-over-heels for each other. It was cute.

[@deganhardt77]

Ginger space jesus is the golden goose for Disney. She checks like 4 modern audience boxes simultaneously in one casting.

[@MikeTXBC]

As annoying as the characters are that she's played, at least none of them have been quite as bad as Michael Burnham from Discovery. That said... when the best you can say is "she's played better characters than Michael Burnham," you know you're scraping the bottom of the barrel.

[@infinitestare]

it's because technically she's black ginger which is kind of unique. Ethnicity-wise. She's of Jamaican-Irish descent I just googled her

[@madebymonkeys5641]

I love that bit in Hamlet, when he said, "alas, poor yorik, I knew when messed with the wrong homei he was gunna get smashed... heroshio"... pure poetry.

[@daveeyes]

Word!

[@jeremiahhendra2401]

"did you just flip me off?" "I did flip the bird now, but not at you" Pure perfection.

[@RanMouri82]

Great, now I'm imagining all of Shakespeare as spoken word. 😅

[@TheDrizzle404]

You joke, but there was already a shit remake like that with Leonardo DiCaprio in it.

[@jaxkommish]

"Into the valley of death rode the 600; it was totally rad man! They went full metal jacket, and I can't even!"

[@dlxmarks]

This bit in the first episode that had me swear off the entire series: The older knight Jorgen Kase, who has presumably served the royal family for years and said that he considers Airk as a son, is shot by an arrow and tumbles off his horse. The others just ride off without a backward glance although Kit makes time to sneer at Dove. They don't even mention his death later. I guess Kasdan thought since the audience just met him and doesn't care about him then the other characters didn't need to either. The character writing on this show is just awful.

[@tkps]

These people write the words 'X served the RF for years.....' but are so self absorbed they don't get what that means so what else would they have the actors do but behave how they personally would? I don't know why they keep employing people who can't write. They can't empathise & don't personally have the life experience to call on. The problem now is the whole place is full of sycophants and no bugger has the balls to tell the truth anymore. I bet plenty know what's wrong but until they speak up, Hollywood won't change.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Disney, "Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."

[@ggt47]

I think his line before his death was in poor taste.

[@BillyBob-wq9fl]

Its always about the youth and how they dont really need help from older people because they are just so hip and cool and smart and capable. At least thats the message that hollywood producer types want to convey. These hollywood producer types cannot be identified by heritage or you will be labeled antisemitic.

[@erinlikesacornishpasty4703]

I noticed how awful this was as well. And how much in contrast it is to other beloved fantasy stories that feature children and teens questing, namely Narnia and Harry Potter. In Narnia, the first characters Lucy and the other children meet are older and either take care of them or tempt them (in the case of Edmond). The first wizarding character Harry Potter meets is Hagrid, who is a consistent care taker character and beloved throughout the story. The way Willow treated the protector character, as though he was an irritating old babysitter the kids were glad to be rid of, was downright juvenile. And it betrays that they KNOW the audience isn't the original one that enjoyed the movie Willow, but rather some Gen Z kids who've been stuck inside and not allowed to actually see kids thier own age, so they're stuck living vicariously through Disney+ 😖. Poor kids. Too bad they don't get to go out an actually quest for anything resembling a life 🤷‍♀️.

[@Draconisrex1]

Willow was a nice movie. It wasn't 'The Godfather' or 'Citizen Kane,' but it was nice. I'm so sad that Disney is strip mining Willow along with the rest of the various IPs I've been in love with. I'm just waiting for Gilligan's Island to get the Disney treatment...

[@justinlast2lastharder749]

It already got the "Survivor Reality Show" treatment...though The Real Gilligan's Island was actually pretty good for a reality show.

[@Warhammered]

Oh, this one is easy: Gilligan and the Skipper are lovers. Ginger and Mary-Ann are lovers. Ginger and Mary-Ann berate the Professor the Millionaires, constantly. They also have to guide Gilligan and the Skipper because they aren't good enough, without the two lesbians to 'empower' them. Sorry Hollywoke, you owe me a few million for this idea. Quit writing it down. :P

[@CMCAdvanced]

Ugh, Mary Ann is going to be an ugly feminist and Ginger is going to anything but

[@rufusmcgee4383]

Strip mining is an apt description.

[@perry92964]

@@Warhammered the professor would be trans

[@JackAcid]

My dad was an extra in the first movie, during the parts that were filmed in a slate quarry (Llanberis) near my house. Fast forward almost forty years later and I work in this show, which, again,was filmed largely in Wales (no longer; it's back to London for series two). There was a lot of money in this, and some pretty impressive sets, but everything you've mentioned here is spot on. I had a strange feeling it wasn't quite..."right" as we went. Warwick is nice but I wonder if he's playing a parody of himself, like he did in Life's too Short. Let's see how this plays out.

[@incurabletrickster1191]

I loved Willow when I was a kid. Seeing Hollyweird massacre it is heartbreaking.

[@reddragon4482]

They come for everything like Unicron and just devour everything lol

[@DEVILTAZ35]

I always got it mixed up with caravan of courage as a youngster lol

[@Perroden]

I call it p3d0wood

[@bl8388]

My favorite part was when willow trained a Jedi by riding on his back. No-wait, wrong movie. My favorite part was when Willow said," Whatchu talkin' 'bout Willis?"

[@thewittywhygaming6487]

The writers wanted the kingdoms, magic and dynasties, but didn't want to stick to how this world would actually work.

[@CognosSquare]

"Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin good forces have invented or made" -Tolkien

[@AsparagusVideo]

Once they explained how Elora was hidden away and now she’s a clueless character that has no idea who she is or what she was destined for - I checked out.

[@AS-fu1kd]

The proper story cannot be told with Disney. Always has to be skewed in some really dumb and needless way

[@KasumiKenshirou]

The Shadow War novels, George Lucas & Chris Claremont's continuation of Willow from the 90s, also had Elora become a spoiled brat, but it was portrayed as a bad thing. (These novels weren't great either, but they were regular bad rather than modern, woke bad.) Most of the characters were killed of in the first few pages except for Willow and his village, Elora Danon, and the Brownies (those annoying little guys). With her own kingdom destroyed, she's raised by another king who's extremely overprotective, which explains how she turned out so badly. I'm recalling this from memory, so I hope I'm remembering accurately. And the novels were written in such a way that it was hard to follow, so I remember the beginning much better than later parts and the ending.

[@FumblsTheSniper]

It makes no sense. Easily could have done an opposite, where evil returns and makes everyone forget her. She then needs to start from nothing and source out the people she knows will be helpful. Obviously, she would start with Willow who is just a farmer and is her most continuous and ultimate source of help. Paralleling the original while giving us a powerful female lead. And let’s be honest, that latter thing is just a necessity if you want to go anything produced nowadays.

[@jackiechan7909]

@@FumblsTheSniper al crap, she could have been raised as madmardigans and sorshas adopted child. At some point she discovered the magic enter willow and of they go on their own journey. Guess normal family live is way to radical in Hollywood these days.

[@FumblsTheSniper]

@@jackiechan7909 yeah that’s more or less what I meant, with everyone’s memories wiped she has to gather them together to defeat evil. One thing I also really liked about the original was that Willow didn’t have a love story. He had his happy ending and the story was kind of just in his way to getting back to being happy. It would be refreshing to have a female lead that doesn’t need to get layed in order to make a story relevant.

[@williamharris7577]

The Norsemen has more historically accurate dialogue than most new movie/shows. It's also a comedy, very funny show too.

[@terryhaircastle5702]

Loved Norsemen!

[@michaeljohnson8837]

Hahahaha so true !!!

[@Rickenbekker]

Truly a great show, I pray for more Norsemen and no RoP

[@MrMacavity]

I only remember Willow for one line. "Out of the way peck!"

[@Locke19901]

I STILL say this.

[@Bloodynine606]

Peck peck peck peck

[@andywarda1481]

That's a great one. My favorite one and the one that stayed with me is " Her name is not Sticks! She's Alora Dannen, the future empress of Tir Asleen and the last thing she's gonna want is a hairy chest!"

[@rkwatchauralnautsjediparty7303]

Oh, and the noble, glory-seeking tone of the actor. That line and delivery are absolutely brilliant.

[@danielrobertson2154]

that and "You've done the right thing!" i still use it a lot lol

[@fiachoconnor]

Yet again, I'm so grateful you the drinker and you guys take the hit so i don't have to. I was very excited to see Willow because I loved it as a kid. You've saved me some hours and some frustration. Legends

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

Let's be frank; the people who are writing, directing, acting, and producing most current entertainment are inferior to those who came before them. I chalk it up to lack of real adversity and life experience.

[@M0butu]

No, they WANT it to be like that. Those people would have never gotten a chance in the business 15 years ago.

[@billybatts8283]

They're mostly the children of the ones who were funding those who vase before them.

[@Canthatcrazy]

Spot on. The best actors and screen writers all came from post WW2 babies, who grew up with poor, traumatised parents and lives very hard or simple lives. This generation have ZERO life experience. All they have is Hollywood and Twitter

[@mojebi3804]

"Adversity" is not something to strive or wish for, just saying. You're not wrong about the first bit though.

[@FreakyFriday4Phaggs]

@@mojebi3804 there is can't be progress without Struggles. Strife and Growth are like "YinYang" twins.

[@BadStreet-p1r]

The entire first episode was les bian Tumblr fan fiction set in a fantasy magical setting. They knew that wouldn't attract 12 viewers standing on its own. The first horrific 20 to 30 minutes was exposition telling us how great the princess with no action in sight. So they just trotted out the name 'Willow' and slapped it on it. He didn't really even appear until the second episode and by then I didn't give a flying frog. I heard that young men in droves are skipping college in favor of a trade school's. So who do you think are left filling these college educated writer's rooms nowadays? With no one there to say no or at least reign in these "writers" putting what they think is great on the screen. Without any talent or respect for what came before.

[@daveeyes]

I deeply wish the writers to be awash in massive college debt and have to live in L.A.

[@hathorliderc]

I had a bad feeling even before this show came out.

[@thefuriousmackerel7672]

I almost cried when I saw what they did to one of my favorite all time movies. It was one of those movies that I could watch over and over and still can. I couldnt even make it through episode two without feeling physically ill. WHY would they do this???

[@cubencis]

Biggest break in fantasy since Starbucks showed up in Westeros

[@michaelriddick7116]

Sorsha (Joanne Whalley) is why I've always had a thing for red heads growing up .... .... that they did this to a beloved film from my childhood is just utterly depressing :(

[@IIISWILIII]

She was spectacular, yes?! 😍

[@beefsuprem0241]

Oh yes, she was fire😉

[@Geordie1892]

Funnily enough I've always had a thing for red headed girls and I remember Sorsha being one of my very early crushes back when I was in primary school so that must be where it began for me too. I wonder how many more of us experienced the Sorsha effect? I recently watched the Willow movie again and Joanne Whalley really was gorgeous so the little versions of us had excellent taste.

[@LeaderDesslok]

Princess to her brother: You're just like dad, as soon as things get tough you'll run away! Seconds later: Princess runs away because life was getting tough

[@EvilDoresh]

She runs away _bravely_

[@wavion2]

@@EvilDoresh 🎵When duty reared its ugly head, She bravely turned her tail and fled. Yes, brave Princess Kit turned about And gallantly she chickened out. Swiftly taking to her feet, She beat a very brave retreat. Bravest of the brave, Princess Kit!🎵

[@EvilDoresh]

@@wavion2 That's enough music for now

[@dreioo8759]

Magog was fantastic! Thank you for pointing him out to us, you absolutely inebriated, inspiring emperor of pure drink.

[@thenextsixminutes1252]

Magog is good people.

[@FlamingoSandwich]

I think Erin Kellyman (diverse femail knight/ love interest for Kit) was put in this excactly because she was ginger as a double bluff because Elora Danan was ginger as a baby and they specifically had a bit in epp 2 explaining her mum was bleaching her hair because they wanted Ellie Bamber blond (when she is ussualy ginger in most parts) so we might think Erin Kellyman was Elora Danan despite the fact her skin tone didn't match at all to the baby in the movie which they showed a clip of.

[@Lelldorin84]

No, that's too smart. It's because she is mixed race and has red hair, that's the only reason she keeps getting hired. Gotta show whitey that other "races" have red hair too!

[@MikeTXBC]

Even if you wanted to send a group of teenagers, why would you send your only remaining heir? That by itself is insane.

[@om3g4z3r0]

"We put gay in it so you have to like it now." - Disney

[@AlphaCitizen]

Sounds like a Dungeon Master from my local game store could've written a tighter, more fitting script Also, I want to tell Willow to aim his wand at the writers of this, so I can say "Willllllow, use the wand on that troll!"

[@Edino_Chattino]

My thoughts exactly. A mental exercise I always think of is, if I were to give this material to four somewhat experienced DMs, would they make a better job? The answer most of the time is yes.

[@miriamweller812]

As PnP game master you have to be pretty good at story writing (if you don't just follow premade campaigns). Afterall: you have to createa a story on the fly while none of the protagonists will do anything you want.

[@AlphaCitizen]

@@miriamweller812 how do you handle min-maxed players? Perfect! Sounds like you can manage these off-brand Hollywood divas then! - Interviewing a DM for the director job

[@ajsouza3720]

We frequently tell our DM to get into writing. He has such an insane talent for worldbuilding we actually read his lore documents.

[@Weaseldog2001]

I tried to watch it with my wife. She announced she was going to bed (to sleep), halfway through the first episode. I moved on to rewatching Farscape.

[@mikehimes7944]

Why did you even even waste the microts?

[@scottgaylon1196]

After all these years, Farscape is still rewatchable. The best sci-fi series ever made, IMO.

[@prismaticbeetle3194]

A wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better choice

[@jolothebarbarian4666]

Farscape is awesome

[@nathantudor5763]

Now I too am going to rewatch Farscape! Maybe some SG1 as well?

[@jamesms4]

Modern Language in Fantasy might work in the Vox Machina Critical Role Animated Show. That is how they introduce the world. It has comedic elements, and it is charming for that setting. It doesn't work everywhere.

[@cdragen]

I knew better than to get my hopes up, I'm not surprised by this at all, and yet somehow my child heart is still broken by the fact that they've once again exhumed something that I loved and desecrated it beyond recognition. I wanted it to be good, I wanted Warwick to triumphantly return as an older, more capable version of his character confidently tackling a new challenge and raising up the next generation, but for some reason perpetuating anything good is anathema to these absolute clowns. Good news is the original can't be erased, and is still awesome.

[@fantasticmrmonk]

“Exhumed” is a good word for it. Really hammers in the disrespect and desecration.

[@psychomoth06]

The “everyone gets a trophy” generation has grown up and brought their entitled world view to their characters, which is basically “I’m perfect, I don’t need to earn anything, and I’ll shout down any criticism because anyone who thinks otherwise is just oppressing me.”

[@conservativecatholic9030]

Which generation gave everyone a trophy? We never asked for our parents to do that. Don’t get me wrong, I have issues with my Millennial generation. It always seemed like the participation trophy’s criticism is misdirected and should be pointed at Boomers. (A generation who is clearly leaving America in worse condition than they found it)

[@CleverGirlAAH]

And to extend the point now: "Where's my trophy for giving out trophies?" i.e. "Look at how diverse my show. It's the FIRST *insert identitarian contrivance here* in a Disney film!"

[@psychomoth06]

@@conservativecatholic9030 I don’t exactly disagree. The blame goes both ways.

[@conservativecatholic9030]

@@psychomoth06 how exactly does the blame go both ways for something that happened to us as a child? How exactly did our generation have any agency to refuse? What exactly did millennials do that calls for any blame regarding these trophies? It seems to me that the trophies were hippie ideas influencing how they parented.

[@AbsentMinded619]

The problem was that the parents basically checked out. The participation trophies are a symptom of absent or farmed-out child-raising. No such thing bad student, only bad teacher. (But the students grow up to be bad teachers too.)

[@joshh.2541]

I made it through approximately 25 minutes of this show, and I only hung around that long because of how much laughs I was getting out of it.

[@DJWHITE_]

Fun Fact: Jennifer Lawrence wrote, directed and produced Willow.

[@kj3n569]

Jennifer Lawrence IS Willow.

[@WesternOutpostDonVonFilms]

Thank you guys. I have saved so much precious time by listening to your reviews and avoiding all these crappy shows.

[@inblackestnight9256]

That redheaded woman was also the leader of a Rebel team on Solo. Understandable how that was forgotten, like the rest of the movie, but she was just as much a plank of wood there as well.

[@johnnyquest1370]

I recently watched the original willow recently and I like it even more as an adult.

[@RambleOn07]

It's a legitimate classic, that really didn't need a continuation.

[@meathooks79]

Always been a fan since it came out and never cared for a sequel since the baby fulfilled her destiny of being the undoing of Bavmorda. At first the show piqued my interest until I found out what the plot was. Makes me glad I haven't bothered

[@VerilyViscous]

It's a great 80's fantasy movie. Not perfect, but has that undeniable charm.

[@mikekooz475]

Was that recently? Sorry, your comment made me laugh.....recently ;)

[@johnnyquest1370]

@@mikekooz475 lmao I didn't catch that!

[@Gunleaver]

Regarding the actress from Falcon & Winter Soldier, don't forget that she was also in Solo, and the moment where she takes off her mask is played as a dramatic reveal, that answers all the questions, basically they're like "Ta da! It's HER!" And her character is supposed to be this idealistic rebel who inspires Han to be less selfish and not just operate for his own profit. Anyone remember his ARC from the original movies? Turns out it was all because the Ginger Savior already set him on that road.

[@cuccooverlord9812]

That ginger is a sign that whatever she touches, she destroys it.

[@AS-fu1kd]

She's so confidently bad at acting

[@AoRArchAngel]

Willow is what pushed me into the fantasy genre, and its heartbreaking to hear this. I knew the moment I saw the trailer on Doomsday+ it was gonna be horrible :/

[@daveeyes]

Doomsday+, LOL!!!

[@easterthefoolish]

Did anyone else just get the urge to watch the original Willow movie after this video? I did. I haven't even thought of Willow for forever. I had no idea there was even a show until a week ago. I don't care about the show, but now I want to refresh my memory of the original.

[@andywarda1481]

I actually went and rewatched the movie after Doomcock did his rant a few days ago.

[@farkmuckerzerg634]

I loved the movie growing up, it was cheesy but still good and one of my favorite fantasy movies of all time. I was excited for a split second when I saw the trailer, but then I remembered the perilous times we live in.

[@sigmacademy]

15:34. It would be nice if the Squire sees that the princess has talent and the confidence, but lacks the fighting skills to stand up against a real threat, so he volunteers to train her further, with the understanding he WON'T take it easy on her in the training, essentially being the only one that truly pushes her to reach her full potential. He would essentially be a mentor to someone just like his Knight was to him. You could even tie it into her love interest, because we know her love interest also wants to be a Knight, and both of them strive to be great swordswomen. We also know that he's the pragmatist in the group, who sees things as they truly are (and just hides truths in humor). It would give the princess and the other members of the group something useful to do other than just sitting around a campfire, since we know that they are heading towards something pretty dangerous.

[@HitchensRAZ0R]

@17:29 in the film "Troy" when a Trojan prince took the Spartan King's wife away, the King contacted his brother and they gathered the largest Greek army and sailed that army straight to Troy to fight a war. In GoT when the Targaryen prince took his girl, Robert Baratheon summoned an army to overthrow the Targaryen Dynasty. But hey, who needs an army when you can send a few teenagers, right?

[@nerdifymusic7322]

LoL, the infamous line "there is a tempest in her" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ZainNL]

A lot of good points made! Though the one about the Captain being told that he's too important.. Looking back Sorsha might have wanted him + the army there to protect Elora. Willow talked about this years before and she blew him off, now shit is going down, so what are her options? Send army? Elora is vulnerable. Send the princess? Well shit.. In a way I think it would have been interesting if a (large) group of soldiers had gone with the party, only to be massively slaughtered, showing the princess what battle is really like and how hopelessly outmatched she is (like Willow felt in the original movie). But eh..

[@DustinBarlow8P]

This showed how hard Val Kilmer carried the first movie. Honestly if I was the writer, I would have the Prince, hated and attacked constantly, so he sneaks out to find his father (Mad Mardigan). You then find the Queen possessed by the sorcery of the Grandmother, while the Princess willingly becomes the Grandmothers apprentice, cause she wants to watch the world burn.

[@mikewilliamson5093]

The writers are really writing about themselves

[@MajorSmurf]

Ya know the sad reality is that generic fantasy isn't that hard to come up. It is super hard to create a story that is both creative and semi original in the fantasy genre. I think most of us fantasy lovers aren't wanting something super creative but a story with super solid ground work. Give us a basic magic system that can gets more sophisticated as we learn more. Give us an interesting story and decent world building and most of us would be happy. Most fantasy nowadays do require solid well thought characters to get people through the story and well none of Willows character are interesting and after 2+ hours of content I still know nothing about them. Sadly the TV series Willow fails at pretty much every hurdle for a fantasy. Like the worldbuilding is so sloppily put together that you can tell that the building blocks just aren't there to fall back on. It's one of those stories where not enough care was put it into it. Like random modern lumberjacks in denim living out in a wood in a world full of monsters and magic just isn't likely is it? You can feel that the story is just a string of events put together by a writer rather than feeling like the events happen due to in universe decisions that a character would make.

[@DeadPixel1105]

Very similar to fans of retro FPS games like Doom and Quake. We often complain when a deep, complex story and characters are introduced into the lore of a game series. Most retro FPS games have a very basic and derivative story (for example, "Doom", "Quake", "Half-Life" and so many others games have basically the same exact storyline - science experiments go wrong, opening a portal/wormhole to another dimension, monsters pour through, and now it's up to this silent protagonist to save the day single-handedly). And truth be told: this simple, basic storyline is what we prefer in FPS games. We're not there to be told a deep story. We here to run from room to room balls-to-the-wall, mindlessly blasting demons and aliens. Pardon the rambling. I assume this is how you fantasy fans feel about fantasy stories. "Stop shaking things up needlessly and just give us what has already been proven to work!"

[@zappodude7591]

@@DeadPixel1105 I wouldn't say that a shooter can't have a good story without being a super-triple-AAA cinematic 5 hours of cutscenes 4K experience where the main character slides through a thin gap in the wall. Half-Life is _the_ example for a reason, and isn't really comparable to Quake where what minimal story there is can only be gleaned from the manual.

[@jamesleon4883]

Fantasy has been pretty dead for a long time. Only lord of the rings and song of ice and fire have really stood out in the genre for a long time. Most fantasy stories are bland and formulaic unfortunately.

[@RylanStorm]

In addition like to the modern language like one of the things that I like really hate is that Disney will happily take the greatest love stories of your childhood like and destroy that. In 1983, you absolutely knew Han Solo and Princess Leia lived happily ever after. In 1988 you knew that Sorsha and Madmartigan adopted Elora and raised her as a princess. Now Disney write both as deadbeat dads who immediately left their partners to look after their kids.

[@ChristianF15cher]

Don’t forget the old adage “When you try to be liked by everyone, you end up being liked by no one.”

[@dronesclubhighjinks]

I honestly don't know how you guys manage to watch this show, even though you want to cover it for your channels. I've been watching reviews and just the dialogue and its delivery is awful enough let alone the rest of the problems. And I haven't even seen the original movie. Disparu's reviews are absolutely hilarious! Thank you for the video!

[@Lionstar16]

Critical Drinker has Jack Daniels to help him watch the rubbish

[@jamietuggnut3312]

Today's modern writers all want to "She-Hulk" their characters by self-inserting what they'd do or what they want in a situation and not what the character should do to make a story more interesting....Basically, the "hero's journey" has been replaced with the "writers journey."

[@aham2903]

Warwick has had a long, rich career. It honestly comes off like he's phoning it in for the paycheck with this one. Maybe he's just tired in general or realized the gigs weren't coming in as much as they used to and he has bills to pay.

[@Lionstar16]

I'll be kind and say he took the role because he has bills to pay (as they say in show business, if you're not working you're not earning)

[@travisrolison9646]

He’s got bills to pay and mouths to feed ain’t nothing in this world is free. Basically phoning it it for a bunch of money.

[@rubbishopinions6468]

He doesn't want to end up in China's Dwarf Village with Karl Pilkington in the audience.

[@Jabber-ig3iw]

Long rich career? A couple of Star Wars films, willow, unfunny crap with gervais, a short lived game show and a few personal appearances on panel shows is not a long rich career, hence why he is doing the Willow show, everyone has to work.

[@eurocrusader1724]

When i was a child i loved the original... Why do they need to destroy our childhood memories?!?

[@9148H2]

We are in a dark age of creativity. Like in the music industry, there are a lot of artistic creative people out there who are not getting anywhere in life, and there are people with very little or no talent at all who have their names and faces plastered everywhere. People with actual talent and integrity are pushed out, resign, or ignored by the media companies. Because corporations do not want a story to teach people to think. They just want you to consume.

[@eurodoc6343]

Just once, I would like to see a movie or TV show that addresses the historical realty that princesses existed to make sure the realm had a legitimate and healthy heir, since this was vital to preventing warfare when the reigning monarch died. This is the reason they enjoyed a life of comfort and leisure so far above what anyone else could have hoped for at the time.

[@sugarnads]

Thaaaaats the queens job. The princess is there to be married off to the crown prince of the realm bordering yours ensuring a secure border in that direction.

[@HerculesBallsInc]

Almost completely absent is something CGP Grey covers excellently in his 'death and dynasties' video. In short, NO king is in charge because he personally has such vast power that no one dare oppose him. He is in power because he is supported by powerful people - the military, the clergy, tradespeople, or whatever. In many kingdoms, the king is nothing but a puppet for these people. The entire reason royal heirs are a thing at all is because all those power players like the idea of a kind of continuity in rule instead of fighting about it every generation. This is why no king can just wander around and do anything he likes, or have 'revolutions' to completely change change society. Eventually the REAL power players will be like, "Um...no. We're going to support your second cousin and you'll be beheaded. Bye!"

[@ajsouza3720]

@@HerculesBallsIncI wish more people understood this. Feudalism was all about the relationship between lord and liege. Very *VERY* few kings have had great personal power. Basil II is one of the few I can think of and he was able to do that by basically making the army loyal to him by living like a soldier with them.

[@SunsetStarship]

"A face like a slapped ass." ...🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣

[@chasehedges6775]

😂

[@BillPeschel]

It's as if the writer had no idea how royal dynasties have to operate in order to retain and expand their power. A princess who resists a royal marriage (and bearing children to maintain the bloodline) and openly snogs her female lover would have lasted about ten minutes in "Game of Thrones" before getting *one* warning before something horrible happens to her.

[@sigmacademy]

Apparently the brother had that covered. It's implied that he's something of a womanizer (because of course he is). If they had made the princess the one that gets to "follow her heart" that would work because apart from being of the royal family she isn't expected to do anything than allow the kingdom to combine with another kingdom for increased security (that's the show's framing, by the way), but you have to imagine the bind they find themselves in - they can't make the brother look good, and they can't make the sister look bad, and by trying to fit into that criteria, they make the brother look good by accident, and the sister bad unintentionally. :/

[@EliMacalikova]

My heart nearly sunk, i had no idea that they made new one, and was really confused that you would dare to talk shit about Willow (original one :D) because it was actually really good. Oh boy, sometimes im so happy to not consume movie news, this is one of those things that i didnt really needed to know. :(

[@rator1st]

They could have easily rectified the sending a weirdly small group by showing another scene where the queen, captain of the royal knights, and tactician talking about sending a portion of their army as a diversion while the princess enlists the help of willow. Now they would have told her the plan, but considering how pig headed and irritable she is, they thought it best to leave her out of the loop in case she tries to turn on them as her actions at the party will cause them to believe. Even then this is still a stupid plan.

[@neonhuntersynth]

Ginger with an afro: "They called me a ninger"

[@M0butu]

Stupid me thinking you'd write "gigger".

[@neonhuntersynth]

@@M0butu You need to have the reference first.

[@ZeTurbocool]

Could not finish the first episode, you’re a strong man.

[@chasehedges6775]

Won’t be watching it

[@andrewfernie3528]

Nice to see Magog on as well. Great to see him. 👍

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

If you are a monarch wanting to clean house, it is a perfect decision. "Your Highness, the entire rescue party was captured and excuted." "Oh. What a tragedy! Have they sent the Prince's head yet?"

[@francois9018]

Me and buddy just watched willow, the movie yesterday. He'd never seen it and it had been a while for me ngl. We both had fun, he was just amazed and had loved the entire 2h of the movie. Then we decided to watch the first episode of the show. We didn't even last 16 minutes and we just stopped.

[@macarahneil2154]

The casting process for woke Disney films: are you lesbicans(Az's words)? The two main female characters: yes, I can play lesbicans. Disney: You're hired! Or... Disney: Are you down to burning the patriarchy, hate the male gaze, and do you have the emotional weight of a plank of wood? Check, check, you're in! Don't worry about not being able to act. We don't care about that thing here. Audience:🤬

[@richardhockey8442]

casting question: how do your acting chops compare against Ben Kingsley's 'performance' in Bloodrayne? better (Nicholas Cage mania) or worse (upstaged by the scenery)

[@shemyaza8934]

I haven't even given this show a chance for obvious reasons despite my love for the original Willow. Sorsha is still one of my favorite characters of all time, which is surprising because Jennifer Lawrence wouldn't invent her until 20 years later.

[@richardhockey8442]

Joanne Whalley in Edge of Darkness with Bob Peck disagrees (with the Jlaw 'interference')

[@jtb6737]

Instead of dancing in front of everyone, they could have been in a pantry making out, and the king walks in. The king goes totally okay if this happens here, not out there.

[@RanMouri82]

Or to be more realistic for a setting where they cannot afford to risk the engagement getting called off, the king would stress that this cannot happen ever again.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

The King would just toss one out a high window. Problem solved. Problem staying solved.

[@jtb6737]

@@Kyle-sr6jm If they were Longshanks

[@Malryth]

Love this video at the beginning!!! When I saw that "George Lucas" film as a child...I thought to myself "the bad guy looks like Darth Vader in Plate Mail"...the end. Played AD&D in High School and always had a Love for that genre... I haven't seen or bought Willow on DVD yet so that might say something... In the Wild West era of the 80's...I'm looking forward to the rest of this video! Your Scottish accent rules all videos...

[@ronlittlejohn8046]

She literally played the same part in Solo, Falcon and Winter Soldier and Willow. She’s got a niche. Granted, it’s a shit niche, but a niche all the same

[@beefsuprem0241]

Like the Drinker said, she must be some execs or VIPs kid