Drinker's Chasers - The Mandalorian Is Dead

The ratings have been plummeting week on week, but this was it. The moment when Lizzo and Jack Black showed up on the Mandalorian is the moment this show finally died.

[@narm_greyrunner]

Bart: This was the worst episode of The Mandalorian. Homer: The worst episode of The Mandalorian so far.

[@lorenzdecena]

Comic book Guy: Worst Season ever.

[@johnsinglet575]

Underrated comment lol

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

Common sense guy: Star Wars is dead.

[@RogueFox2185]

Having Lizzo in Star Wars has the same energy as Stacey Abrams being in Star Trek.

[@caleb88k]

Holy shit yessss!!

[@rbu2136]

Who delivered their lines better? Better than Jabba?

[@nealmccann4282]

Or like Ed Sheeran in GoT🙄

[@whenpigsfly8178]

"You've gotta do better Governor"!

[@coffeebux]

Lizzo- while an amazing performer and very talented - for her venue of entertainment. it feels like she was just placed into StarWars.

[@danielclark-hughes692]

For me, Mandolorian ended with Grogu being safely delivered to Luke Skywalker.

[@TheAcad3mic]

And it's an alternate universe where Luke stayed the legendary hero that he is and the sequel trilogy never happened.

[@monkeytime9851]

I didn't realize they did anything after. There were more seasons? Guess I'm lucky I didn't know.

[@jasonkiefer1894]

@@TheAcad3mic I won/read most of the Legends. Sure there were some issues, similar to issues the Prequels raised. Lucas/Lucasfilm kept some involvement so you can see the guidance. And they had a couple of people working on continuity issues. So they at least felt in universe, even if there were mistakes. Disney does everything wrong and then screws up even more. All these famous cameos are cringe stunts, fanboy self inserts the completely take me out of the story. (which is easy because there is no story there) My head canon stays with Lucasfilm to the day George sold the franchise.

[@dragomight8851]

@@jasonkiefer1894 I'm blindly trekking through legends and, as fucking weird as it can be, it feels like Star Wars. Right now, I'm playing through the Dark Forces series and it's amazing. Great gameplay, solid stories (I wouldn't say they're groundbreaking), and really immerses you into the Star Wars galaxy even if it was made in a time before the prequel movies or later lore (Jedi Knight 2 was made two years before Episode 1, so it's very vague about the Jedi order before Ep 4).

[@Heathy87]

as far as i'm concerned star wars peaked in Kotor 1 & 2 and it hasn't managed to reach that same level since. those two games have a better story than all of the movies combined.

[@thedroneflyingviking1284]

Having Lizzo in Star Wars is like Ed Sheeran in Game of Thrones it shows you the show runners would rather be popular than produce a decent quality show

[@anotherhappylanding4746]

Exactly this

[@Steven-sd2zi]

This was worse and both took me out of the show

[@spacewalker806]

don't insult ed sheeran by comparing him to this hippo.

[@buckjones4901]

popular with who? majority of people are not woke idiots.

[@jeebtheweeb]

​@@Steven-sd2zi Jack Black is just as bad for me dude. It just feels wrong

[@vjbd2757]

George Lucas built and expanded the Star Wars franchise in 30 years. Disney tore it down in less than a decade.

[@yung_wise5861]

Stan Lee: “first time?”

[@jellybryce7742]

they do it to western countries too.

[@chileanyways196]

The funny thing is this episode seemed exactly like something George would do

[@dr.juerdotitsgo5119]

For me the most astonishing thing about Star Wars is how the hell an IP that was already crumbling down since 1983(!) has spurred sooooo much garbage for 40 years and counting. I can understand Star Strek, which produced TOS, TOS movies, TNG, DS9, in a span of 30+ years, but Star Wars? Shieeeet

[@logandarklighter]

This is 100% Kathleen Kennedy’s doing.

[@isakaldazwulfazizsunus7564]

Here's the thing. Jack Black has a very established humour brand attached to his face. When I saw his face in one excerpt from the series, I automatically assumed it came from a spoof, like something straight out of a late-night show taking the piss out of Star Wars. It's completely off brand for Star Wars to use a face like Jack Black for this. Hell Samuel Jackson has a big personality and even he took it down almost to the point of being boring just to fit Lucas' vision. And you know what? You don't see Samuel Jackson in Star Wars, you see Mace Windu. You can't do that with someone like Jack Black or Lizzo, especially when they look exactly like they do in other appearances.

[@sk8legendz]

dude soon as I saaw Jack Black I laughed..dude looked like a goofy civil war general.

[@kaijusoshingeki7214]

Absolutely correct.

[@coffeebux]

@@sk8legendz thats the look!

[@Flistatec]

I'm fortunate enough to not even know who Lizzo is, but I sure as hell recognize Jack Black and you are right about his brand. I honestly love the guy to death, but he has no place in Star Wars unless underneath heavy alien make-up and doing an excellent job as a VA.

[@lordgrave57]

I see what you are saying. But Jim Carey in 23 and Robin Williams as a killer worked just fine even off brand.

[@_Fryce_]

The funny part is Bill Burr did fantastic on his cameo in the show. He is always a good addition to tv shows when they give him a chance

[@william4996]

He really convinced me he was a solid actor when I saw him in Breaking Bad.

[@richardrichard688]

Burr was great, especially for someone who dislikes Star Wars so much.

[@buddyfett1341]

F is for Family is what sold me. Frank Murphy 4 Life. I'll put you through the fucking wall.

[@M0rdFustang]

I was about to comment this. I didn't see any cracks in his acting despite not even being an actor. He did great

[@brandonsamano7428]

He was ridiculously good

[@milton7763]

Props to Lizzo: she just single-handedly saved Jar Jar Binks from being the most hated character in the Star Wars franchise

[@Bopperann]

She's competing with Rey.

[@yodathehutt1557]

You're right! She's worst than jar jar. Holy shit

[@PauIieWalnuts]

I didn't mind Jar Jar.

[@patrickk6331]

You mean JarJar the Sith Lord ?

[@theunknowncommenter725]

​@@patrickk6331 no, Jar Jar Binks, the naive and easily fooled politician who handed the entire galaxy over to the Senate.

[@OctoStar20]

The fact that there is a LIVING MYTHOSAUR under Mandalore and we are out here having a tea party with Jack Black is ridiculous.

[@Nio744]

He's about to go to mandalore and become the dragon warrior again 😂

[@mallios13]

Good, they should leave the Mythosaur alone. Because at this point, we know Bo is either going to kill it or tame it for her own ego.

[@CornyBum]

@@mallios13 Considering how lame the argument was that got her the Darksaber again, I'm hoping that the Mandalorian mercenaries are actually not all on board with her as their leader, but she (or someone else) ends up taming the Mythosaur to actually take the throne legitimately.

[@Сайтамен]

What is so special about this dinosaur? Boba Fett was riding it like horse...

[@greeneye5977]

Yeah, I have no interest in seeing another giant monster basically because a tame horse. They should be for killing and destruction, not video game mounts.

[@bbaker4117]

The cameo from Lizzo and Jack Black had real Star Wars Holiday Special vibes to it

[@ktoth29]

Don’t give Disney any ideas

[@moresnacksplease526]

They should have had Lizzo sing a duet with Bea Arthur.

[@kaasmeester5903]

Exactly what it reminded me of. But cringy comic relief aside, so far almost all of Season 3 feels off. The main story arc is interesting enough but does not get enough attention, and the subplots kind of feel like shitty side quests in a 90s RPG. With about the same quality of writing.

[@fixer1140]

The Holiday Special now feels like a Kubrick masterpiece, doesn't?

[@marychocolatefairy]

Yes, I hadn't seen the episode yet when I saw that clip being shared and I thought at first it was a lame spoof attempt, lol. Then I literally did a double take when I saw Bo Katan in the background.

[@ZebraActual]

Not knowing who Lizzo is proves the truth of the saying, "Ignorance is Bliss"

[@kahlilgibran563]

Chew that steak and enjoy the harp music. 😁

[@sectphiro607]

​@@VaderPopsVicodin10 LMAO 🤣

[@B-26354]

​@@kahlilgibran563 Great reference. 😂

[@woodside4life]

*Blizzo”

[@zedddddful]

I had no idea who she was just thought she was a bad actress it seemed like she was reading the lines from a teleprompter.

[@sarkastodon30]

Having singers and non-actors as cameos is the modern day "jumped the shark"

[@Reynolds69er]

I hope you’re not implying Jack Black is a ‘non-actor’

[@jerk1921]

Honestly though, Jack started as an actor, that what he is. He was a 'comedy actor, but an actor.

[@matthewcrawford4216]

Yeah this is definitely the jump the shark moment.

[@liamphibia]

But look how they massacred our man Christopher Lloyd into this!😟

[@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881]

Guess it's a holiday special throwback decision

[@rexlumontad5644]

That awkward moment when Din Djarin became a sidekick character of his own show:

[@firstlast9846]

I miss when he was a gritty, violent bounty hunter who nearly died against a space rhino if it wasn’t for Grogu.. that was the peak of their relationship - cos I actually felt a sense of peril.. then he got that beskar suit - and I’m suddenly supposed to worry? It’s like John Wick with his bulletproof suit.

[@FTChomp9980]

The first 2 Seasons literally focused on Din now Season 3 is like a Reboot but this time taking pages out of Book of Boba Fett getting sidelined.

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

its about bo katann now. idk who is writing this show but they try so hard to make bo katann the main protagonist

[@zom8680]

People who watched Boba Fett : first time?

[@bubbachomp4674]

@@firstlast9846 It would’ve been cool to see him get that beskar armor right before he ascended the throne. Like Aragorn in his shiny armor when he finally accepts the crown. Imagine if each Mandalorian clan leader donated a little of their beskar to him as a sign of respect and the armorer melts it down to build him a suit of armor fit for the Mand’alor.

[@TheOriginalFishPond]

They're about to destroy Thrawn with Ahsoka. This is unforgivable.

[@Khazandar]

Yeah but all the Rebels fanboys are gonna defend that to the death. Mark my words.

[@FTChomp9980]

I just saw the trailer overall I would say this: CGI looks pretty! I doubt the story will be good since Dave Filoni is overrated.

[@georgemichael1842]

HE was so good in Rebels, and the Book of Zhan made him the true legacy as vilain, but they gonna ruin him. I might fear they gonna make him a second class, and someone else gonna be a vilain :(

[@kenabi]

the comments on the trailer are.. disheartening. none of them are willing to hold disney accountable for the bs.

[@bubbachomp4674]

Even if it ends up good, why should I cross my fingers and assume it’ll maintain its quality for future seasons? Why get invested in the story when I know the clowns in charge are unreliable at best?

[@garym6315]

How the hell did we go from Alec Guinness & Peter Cushing to Lizzo and Jack Black?

[@jonathanbaker4361]

D.I.S.N.E.Y.

[@Soundwave32791]

Money.

[@Ultizer]

and Christopher Lee. I feel like Jack Black cameo is too silly for Star Wars, Bill Burr was pushing it as well but it had that great cafeteria scene.

[@MrManfhis]

@@Ultizer I feel like Jack Black could work, the problem is that people only use him for that one wacky comedy relief character that he always does. Lizzo too, she could play a Hutt.

[@DemonicRemption]

@garym6315 I'm happy to see Jack Black was getting work, though I suspect him playing Bowser and the hype that generated is why he was hired to do a guest appearance.

[@Kardel_VA]

The Mandalorian was the flagship show that gave people hope for decent star wars content. And of course, Disney mucked it up.

[@robbhays8077]

Yeah. Season 2 finale was a high point and then they ruin everything with Book of Boba Fett and Season 3. Andor was good, though.

[@FreedomAndPeaceOnly]

In the words of the Joker *_" It is not about the money, it is about sending 'A MESSAGE'. "_*

[@grimoireweiss5203]

@@robbhays8077 Boba Fett was at least watchable. Naturally knowing how badass he was in lore and now seeing him often in a tank healing is absurd but at least it had a good idea. Once a mercenary is fed up and wants to be the boss himself but treat his subordinates with respect. It was something but now we get nothing.

[@cbalan777]

I just wonder when people are going to stop entirely? After Last Jedi I checked out. I'm not even interested in watching the OG trilogy again cause it is becoming an intentionally lessened part of a bigger narrative. Also it's frustrating to me as a struggling artist that I have to compete with the corpse of a franchise that people can't stop watching.

[@Captain_Insano_nomercy]

@@robbhays8077 just wait until the execs co-opt Andor too

[@floridadad2817]

What this show really needs is Jim Carrey as a goofy, manic Sith lord.

[@moresnacksplease526]

Vader Voice: So… Big Gulps, huh?

[@DreamStepper]

Well Jim Carrey can legitimately act if he really feels like it, so I wouldn't mind seeing him in Star Wars if given good material.

[@stephenwillis2751]

Count Olaf with a lightsaber

[@markwalch6065]

At this point Id say fuck it! May aswell.

[@floridadad2817]

@@DreamStepper Yeah I can see it now. Aaaaaaaaalllllhighgroundthen!

[@ToddHowardWithAGun]

I don't know what makes me more upset, the fact that Mando is dead or the fact that I am now aware of Lizzo and how she got famous.

[@turinturambar8622]

Lizzo 🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮 Also Todd, where's my canvas bag ?!

[@wally7361]

I get people might not take to her as a actress but she is a talented musician

[@turinturambar8622]

@@wally7361 No. She really isn't

[@wally7361]

@@turinturambar8622 music is Subjective. You don't have to be a fan but to say she isn't talented is false

[@turinturambar8622]

@@wally7361 music is subjective to a point

[@AirBendinCat]

I think it’s interesting to point out how Bill Burr and Gina Corano were actors who had stardom from other mediums (comedy and MMA) but they didn’t break immersion.

[@connorbingel7134]

They played larger roles though and had a point of being there. These episodes are to disjointed now. There’s not a whole lot of point to them

[@AirBendinCat]

@@connorbingel7134 I honestly think that’s why a lot of people disliked them. Star Wars has been home to comedy and levity before but I think it’s pretty clear that Mando fans want serious episodes that are plot driven.

[@AirBendinCat]

@@dilboo I think the danger of “pointless” comedy from a plot perspective is that if it doesn’t land, it just comes across as stupid and a waste of time

[@phantomsanic3604]

"To the empire…" is still one of my favorite scenes in Mando

[@mcp1981]

They’re less famous. Cast Jack Black as an alien in a suit or CGI not looking / acting like himself.

[@jameswyatt2620]

I like how Grogu was "Knighted" for helping a Hutt cheat at a silly game. Nice lesson for the kiddos.

[@CornyBum]

haha, what a lame society that shows it to be, and how lazy that it's just such a familiar-looking ritual for us

[@ΑναστάσιοςΠαπαζαχαρίου]

De-moralisation of society Also grogu was always a POS idk why people like it. Media said it was cute and the npcs made it gospel

[@ahwayzcool4630]

Lol

[@ant2011]

Lesson for the kiddos? Foh

[@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881]

"But it's Kawaiiiii"

[@xc43t]

4 seconds of Brad Pitt in DeadPool playing the invisible guy is how a cameo should be done.

[@slewone4905]

SO we should electrocute Lizzo and Jack black. Would watch that.

[@Tookieslam]

Daniel Craig as a Stormtrooper

[@ssk58607]

Matt Damon as Loki in thor ragnarok was hilarious too lol

[@Lorgeid]

Subverting expectations, Bo-Katan was The Mandalorian all along.

[@packedphatrat]

Maybe the real mandalorian is the enemies we made on the way

[@Cyrus_II]

It’s the old trick. male hero sacrifice himself or steps away to make way for female hero

[@crazyrabbits]

@@Cyrus_II - The irony is that I thought she was going to get the Darksaber all along. I just thought it was going to happen at the end of a season-long arc where her philosophy and Din's eventually gets to a point where they're diametrically opposed to each other, and they have some kind of duel where she legitimately wins and earns the title of ruler. She doesn't get it randomly handed to her at the end of a filler episode with stunt casting.

[@scatterthewinds3126]

@@crazyrabbits thats what everyone thought this show was heading...

[@cockles007]

The zoom on Starbuck was one of the saddest things ever. Sadly Pedro is probably in full support of being a cuck.

[@D71219ONE]

I’m actually proud of Star Wars going back to practical effects by having an actress play Jabba.

[@shineyrow9001]

Cruel.... but humorous.

[@AnubisOda]

Lizzo the Hutt

[@JoshBenore]

I haven't heard a well timed Jabba fat joke for 30 years. For a second there I thought I punched through my lightbright into another dimension again.

[@tfjohnson55]

😂😂😂😂

[@Сайтамен]

By the way, in Clone Wars there was Momma the Hutt. She looks like her.

[@caps_lock_]

I really feel for the real SW Fandom, having to watch something that has brought so many people joy for so long be destroyed right before your eyes sucks!

[@bassguitarislife3419]

We don’t watch it.

[@MMattikkie]

The star wars "fandom" belongs to the normies now...

[@ChiefManny1]

I watched the 1st Star Wars movie in theaters. I collected marvel comics from the 70s. Disney destroyed my childhood enthusiasm within a decade. I'm done with both.

[@Viothon]

@@ChiefManny1 What happened was that before 2016, entertainment had only pockets of Democrat activists in its messaging, after Trump I think many CEO's clearly pushed the panic button. I think KK took her friend Hillary Clinton's loss very seriously and retooled the Last Jedi for this. What happens when you start to hire yes people and activists is that they don't question the message at all at they are all on the same political page. No one at Disney right now is saying maybe this is not right or maybe we should rethink this, they are all in the same fart bubble and what everyone should get ready for, and this will be yet again really bad for the workers is Disney to Enron itself and in the wake of that take most of the movie industry with it.

[@nhagan001]

@@Viothon Think you should change your last name to Schizophrenia.

[@HighDiver5555]

Lizzo the Hutt absolutely killed me 🤣😂

[@davidwilliam9681]

We went from Princess Leia in the bikini to Lizzo, and they say that's an improvement...

[@jonwwillis]

How many girls are going to cosplay Lizzo versus metal bikini Leia at comic con?

[@reprogrammingmind]

@@jonwwillis those are girls?

[@jonwwillis]

@@reprogrammingmind women cosplayers do go to comic cons. Have you never been to one?

[@Сайтамен]

Who says that?

[@oldgoat142]

Dammit, another treasured visual of Princess Leia ruined!

[@Hollyclown]

You know a show is dead when the Main Protagonist starts taking a back seat in his own show.

[@FIDreams]

That's been happening ever since Loki. Why's this new.

[@kingofthebritons1887]

Like in the first series of the punisher? Glad I've got Garth Ennis comics

[@chastinreppert7685]

Just like Luke & Boba Fett. 😡I HATE Disney.

[@erniechang2915]

The Jack Black & Lizzo duo is exactly like the Dwarf & wife couple in Rings Of Power. It's like they saw the flop that is Rings Of Power and thought "how can we replicate that?"

[@rennmaxbeta]

No, the couple in Rings of Power was actually good.

[@erniechang2915]

@@rennmaxbeta Ya might be right. My opinion might be inaccurate as I snoozed through both shows.

[@bananajones4121]

TBF Jack Black seems like he might actually fit....as a comedic character (a pirate maybe?) or a one-off voiceover

[@matthew7491]

The difference is that the couple in ROP the actress who plays the dwarf is an actress. Not a singer pretending to be an actress. The dwarf plot in ROP was actually okay. One of the only decent parts of the show.

[@SuperEagle112]

When she tried to get at Chris Hemsworth she became to the first person in history to punch both above and below her weight.

[@JoeBauers8]

Oh snap! A fat joke. 🤙🏾

[@patrickbatman141]

Chris Hemsworths model wife definitely felt intimidated by the fact Big Momma from Big Mommas house was trying to seduce her husband.

[@ThelcarusWing]

The best cameo I can think of in recent memory was having Brad Pitt as Vanisher in Deadpool 2. There is just something that is so funny about getting a very attractive absolute mega star to play a character who doesn't speak and is completely invisible except for half a second when you see him die.

[@RJALEXANDER777]

That was a good joke, got to give it to them there.

[@TheGrimmCommoner]

Matt Damon in Interstellar was another surprising casting.

[@El_Descarriado]

George Clooney playing Cartman's cat energy.

[@user-go1sl6rd7u]

@@TheGrimmCommoner Matt Damon was in Deadpool 2 as well lmao

[@Dousch]

Movie wasn't good (hey guys let's get the most annoying kid in the world a lead role), but that part was.

[@Davitron_87]

It’s hilarious to think at one point people were touting Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni as the saviours of Star Wars.

[@scruffy74]

I think they are experiencing increased external interference now (Kathleen Kennedy et al)

[@rudolfsteyr5228]

Yeah they are more like Dave and David from game of thrones

[@Simon-xc5oy]

Yes. I wonder what is really going on. Are Jon and Dave the real deal, and have they just been crippled this season with studio KK interference? If they are as good as people used to think, then what went wrong on the Fett and Kenobi shows? KK yet again? If the pair of them were allowed to run Star Wars and KK was out along with her crew of idiots would they do better....I am no longer so sure.

[@Phil-ih2nf]

The problem is that SO MUCH rides on who's directing the episode. Some directors want to make a mature, story-driven, well paced episode, while others want to show us a 35 min goofy side quest

[@Captain_Insano_nomercy]

To be fair, without the empire looking over their shoulders they would be able to at least crank out competent content

[@dirtynatedeezy]

At first I didn't recognize lizzo when I did I almost cried because I knew the mandalorian was truly dead.

[@datboiashy2957]

I think the only reason why Bill Burr worked well in s1-2 is because they actually gave him a mini character arch with an actual character development. Although be it short, he was an interesting cast calling and seemed to genuinely envelope the role

[@bliczb8772]

I wouldn't even argue he had a great arc (on account of him blowing up the facility full of soldiers he felt moderately sorry for, excluding his former commander). But I would argue that reason why Bill Burr worked was that... It wasn't Bill Burr. He actually acted the character he was given. But with Jack Black and Lizzo? They're there, just as Jack Black and Lizzo.

[@intotheaether9022]

Mandalorian had potential, I truly believe that. However, it died for me when they brought back grogu during Boba Fett and didn't let Mando actually have his own show. It's the Grogu show featuring Mando and now it seems there's yet ANOTHER character taking the spotlight from him in what is supposed to be his own show on

[@jpibmg]

This. Feels like we’re headed towards Bo Katan season 1 rather than mando season 4

[@aronbond]

correct spot-on

[@Cunnysmythe]

This, it was Grogu coming back in another show that did it for me, as if the investment in the plot was just a waste of time

[@00spinz35]

if you had any bit of foresight youd know that it was never just gonna be about Din

[@EntrEsprit]

it peaked with season 2, they made all the character cameos, Boba Fett, Luke, Ahsoka, and the finale of S2 felt like it could've been the end of the show, so my interest in upcoming seasons died there, died even more when i heard about Grogu return. And this is not even the last season, are you kidding me, this show has no subtance and characters to hold up to 4+ seasons, this is a joke

[@haymanstudios5124]

This was their big "save the franchise" episode with all the "Star power". Jack Black, Lizzo, and Christopher Lloyd. The writers were high on themselves for coming up with this glorious idea and patted each other on the back and danced in their denial. It's really sad to see Star Wars fall to such a low. This is what happens when finance is the primary goal.

[@sphelps31]

Christopher Lloyd probably just needs to show up to keep his SAG benefits.

[@Solitas777]

I thought it was great. They touched on droids and their lives, separatism, post imperial area, and mandalorian factionalism. It's great.

[@johneyton5452]

@@Solitas777 no sale.

[@darrionsjoquist9475]

@@johneyton5452 virgin alert, you sound like prequel haters, come up with an original opinion maybe? instead of D-riding haters.

[@infidelheretic923]

If that was their goal it failed miserably. It appears to check enough diversity boxes.

[@0bzen22]

Lizzo and Jack Black are literally crushing everything. They have the combine gravity pull of two Death Star. When they get in range of each other, it sets off the LIGO detector. The mythical collision of two black holes. We need more Yo Momma jokes... These two whales should be perfect.

The Mandalorian is going to be Loki/Hawkeye 2.0, where the titular character is a support character in his own show. Also, for everyone that thought that Dave Filoni or Jon Favreau were going to "save the franchise" I think it's pretty telling that is not going to happen. Dave Filoni especially is just a Joss Whedon 2.0.

[@attiepollard7847]

Loki sucked but nothing was wrong with Hawkeye Christmas mini series

[@FTChomp9980]

Firefly is good! It's better then what Modern Star Wars is producing.

[@attiepollard7847]

@@FTChomp9980 dude Firefly is long gone get over it

[@FTChomp9980]

@Attie Pollard All I said was it's a good show I know it's long gone but your taking my comment out of context all I said was this Space Opera is better then what Disney is pumping out with Star Wars.

[@attiepollard7847]

@@FTChomp9980 unfortunately no matter how bad Star wars people are still going to look at it. The fanbase can cry and cry all they want it still going to be here on unfortunately

[@Kernwadi]

"People call me racist... I can't even drive." -Bilbo Baggins

[@Flinch9000]

This got me for no reason.

[@dontshootmex5588]

Nice one lol

[@rickswordfire4774]

Underrated comment

[@Kernwadi]

@@Flinch9000 My pleasure.

[@Kernwadi]

@@dontshootmex5588 Dankeschön.

[@joust182]

Just when you thought this show couldn't get worse.

[@danielclark-hughes692]

@@Peak_Aussieman 😂

[@glennpearson3056]

If there is anything I've learned over the last few years, is to NEVER think a Disney/Star Wars product couldn't get worse.

[@woodwyrm]

it can always get worse

[@Darkwintre]

Shhh!🤫 They're definitely trying!🤗

[@coryv5679]

I think it actually is getting better. It's finally about the Mandalorians. People seem to not know what the hell they want.

[@saraloking5993]

For the first two seasons I was blown away by how great the series was. It felt like 'movie quality' to me. Now every episode varies from good to okay. There were some great scenes, some enjoyable characters, and occasional hints of good things to come, but then the characters' difficulties are wrapped up too easily and neatly with a bow. And the overall story of Din and Grogu seems to have lost its momentum because of too many subplots that turn out to be dead ends. I keep hoping that the Mandalorian will get back on track. Otherwise, there was never a reason why Grogu can use the force, and happens to be the same species as Yoda, beyond tapping fan emotions.

[@nopenahman7380]

Brutal honesty: You have bad taste. Star Wars is a dead franchise running purely on nostalgia and rampant consumerism - you are literally the cause of the continual beating of the dead horse. Please stop. Protip: Instead of sitting there braindead watching another trashy installment in a franchise that's the equivalent of a dead horse thats been beaten into dust, go read a book written before 1965. I suggest the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius or Vom Krieg (On War).

[@yodathehutt1557]

100% you expressed my feelings to a tee. Seriously spot on

[@AncestorEmpire1]

Star Wars died when Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy fire a space laser on the expanded universe. The last Jedi was just a mercy killing

[@gbalfour9618]

I’d argue not when they fired it but when they had the intent to fire it. Bc Bob knew when George signed those papers everything going to be thrown out

[@isaachenrique10]

“Talk about punching above your weight, I don’t mean that literally” lmao I am dying

[@michaelstein7510]

There aren’t too many women who would outweigh Chris Hemsworth, but Lizzo is definitely one.😂

[@glados4765]

Lizzo cosplaying as the planet coruscant is hilarious.

[@Burn_Disney_Burn]

Lmao

[@KingSquirtle999]

Bruh 😂

[@EnsignRedshirtRicky]

Just a moon, not a whole planet... yet.

[@tommyzDad]

@@EnsignRedshirtRicky _That's no moon!_

[@lunaboy1977]

Shame she wasn’t cosplaying Alderaan

[@CurCam713]

Putting Lizzo (and Jack Black) into Star Wars (Mandalorian) is like putting Stacey Abrams into Star Trek (Discovery) or Megan Three Stallion into Marvel (She Hulk). In an earlier time, cameos featured a very good, skilled actor who added extra spice to the show or movie. Now it's more like a wink, wink insider joke from Hollywood against fans who take the IP seriously.

[@AdhamOhm]

"fans who take the IP seriously" Bruh they're literally movies and TV shows made to sell toys. Nobody in their right mind should take them more seriously than that.

[@theunknowncommenter725]

​@@AdhamOhm We do because we care about these stories, these characters, and this universe. Besides, the argument that it's made to sell toys is weak because the merchandise is crap and not selling.

[@palerider955]

Don't you mean "The Bo show"?

[@Kuricapitalist]

Remember when she was the villain?

[@ChunChin-em4wo]

This episode was a breaking point for a lot of Star Wars fans including myself.

[@josephbrown9685]

You mean you all still had hope before this episode?

[@Jza-GZa40k]

@@josephbrown9685 Exactly it’s been dead for years

[@libertas5005]

I hope you're happy with the fact you kept funding this shit by being subscribed to disney+. Enjoy what you've helped build.

[@drlca6601]

@@josephbrown9685 I had hope... I mean I skipped the new movies, but Mando was good, so I had hope for Star Wars TV, that is, but after one episode Boba Fett show I saw the writing on the wall for the last hold out of Star Wars quality. The Alamo has fallen, boys.

[@nhagan001]

​@@drlca6601 Oh you sweet summer child... Mando was the reason ALL OF THIS WENT TO SHIT. You allowed an invincible, monotone protagonist to dictate the future of Star Wars. Tatooine went from a backwater planet to THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE FOR MULTIPLE CHARACTERS.

[@Sonny_AA]

This was the episode that finally convinced me that everyone involved has lost their way. Grogu is an accessory. His fate doesn't matter anymore. The bond between Din and Grogu doesn't matter anymore. Worse still they've made the entire retaking of Mandalore story boring. The joke used to be that Din's back must be sore for carrying the entire Star Wars universe on it. Well I guess they finally broke it. Character arcs be damned so sure, lets take our noble lead and show how violently unhinged he is towards droids. Did we not spend a few episodes where he was stubbornly refusing to give up on resurrecting a droid he respected? All of this done in service of building up Bo Katan to be the more rationale partner? This is some grade A MCU level screwing over the lead to prop up the female character.

[@MarvinHartmann452]

Filloni did this with Ashoka. There's no reasons to believe he wouldn't do it with the mandalorian and Bo Katan. He's a one trick pony. And Favreau admitted that he didn't have a plan for the mandalorian. So you have it.

[@Msh42069]

So I don’t expect every episode to be gold, but I agree with you to an extent. I stubbornly hope the show has something that will capture the nostalgia or some old Star Wars magic…but yea this last one and the whole season was just isn’t entertainment. I just don’t get why people that supposedly are huge Star Wars fanboys (mainly thinking about Filoni, Favreau) somehow are ok with putting this little level of caring(couldn’t think of a better way to put it?) into something they claim matters to them. I just can’t wrap my brain around that part unless it’s pure PR that they grew up fans

[@TexanIndependence]

@@Msh42069 People need to PUNISH Disney. I cancelled Disney Plus last year when they said they plan to jam LGBT into EVERY children's cartoon they make, but if I still had it, I'd cancel again for what they are doing to Star Wars. They do NOT CARE about Star Wars, it's just a tool to jam diversity and lectures down people's throats. When I saw the pictures of Lizzo, Jack Black, and Tim Meadows in it, I thought "Do they even THINK they are making a Star Wars anymore? Or do they openly know they are making something else and slapping the Star Wars label on it?"

[@js-cm9si]

Honestly, I think they just stopped trying due to either lack of ideas or just creative burnout. Either that, or they intentionally wanted bo Katan to be treated the same way as ahsoka.

[@Sonny_AA]

@@js-cm9si my irresponsible speculation is that they were interfered with/overridden on wrapping up Mando/Grogu's arc in the middle of Boba Fett and said "F#$# it" and delivered season 3 half baked.

[@jackthestrangler2375]

I love how the titular character was just like a background guy through the whole episode and also most of this season. You see a quarter of him in almost all shots, and mostly he just does nothing or barely contribute to the plot.

[@lobalee1873]

The problem with the Mandolorian is that it was a cool concept, but didn't actually have a story to tell, and it shows. After the initial happy surprise of a cool looking dude with a cute sidekick, it became clear that they didn't actually know where they wanted to go with the story. They did side quest after side quest with very little overarching story so besides the pretty facade, there's nothing to latch onto.

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

Please. The entire concept of the Mandalorian is not new at all. It was ripped off the 60s Japanese series called Lone wolf and cub in which a descraced Samurai had to protect a 5 year old kid in a pram. Disney just ripped it off.

[@kevgamble]

Agreed. This is the entirety of Disney Star Wars - everything is just a setup, with nothing thought through or planned after the initial setup. Mandalorian had a good setup and a nice sense of something bigger waiting around the corner. But just as with every other Disney product, there was nothing else coming. Just making it up as they go along, poorly.

[@mourningcrows]

Who’s gonna tell DCmastermind First about The Hidden Fortress?

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Concepts are common. Legitimately breathtaking storytelling is NOT. For anyone seeking exemplary storytelling, I suggest you look into "Diamond Dragons". It's LEAGUES better than all the Hollywon't trash. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨

[@rexlumontad5644]

I'm convinced that all of the Nite Owls went on Vacation Day but they forgot to tell Bo-Katan about it, leaving her sulking alone in her castle until Din Djarin and Grogu came along.

[@Kdeem.224]

jeezus how many comments are you gonna leave lol

[@yamiookami]

Lizzo is also known for disrespectfully twerking while playing James Madison's glass flute

[@tomcoop9750]

And she rapped about cutting off a man’s… yeah… smh

[@imnohbody]

The sad thing is that later she played it, dressed more like a normal person attending a fancy DC event, and was pretty good (being a trained flutist and all). But all anyone saw was the waving it around and twerking in that almost non-outfit like it were part of a regular concert of hers, playing all of like 2-3 notes. It didn't help that it was used as an excuse to scream "RAAAAAAYCISSS!", leftists claiming that people were criticizing her not because she was being disrespectful with a national treasure but because she's black.

[@TheAurgelmir]

I think part of the issue for the Mandalorian was that they gave Dave Filoni too much writing power, and he just wanted to throw in all his animation series characters. That said Season 2 of The Mandalorian was at least "Cammeo of the Week" and then a full meet up towards the finale. They were mostly single episode story arcs, now they seem like they are mainstay's. Which is ironic, since what made the Mandalorian so great was how it was derivative of Star Wars, without actually using a whole lot of established characters.

[@edwardp7725]

I think the key takeaway here is immersion. These shows just do not immerse you or take you away from the real world anymore. I cant get lost in the Star Wars universe anymore

[@slewone4905]

They bring the crap we are running away from, and shoving it in our face.

[@wongscp1701]

Exactly! When you have "star power" cameos, it just explodes you out of the immersion.

[@buckjones4901]

Agree!

[@wakeupuk3860]

A very good point !!

[@witchplease9695]

“I can’t get lost in Star Wars because Black people exist in it” Sounds like a you problem.

[@iamthem.a.n.middleagednerd1053]

Lizzo and Thor actually have a lot in common. For example, they both have a daily caloric intake of 6,000-8,000. The only teensy weensy little difference is Thor spends about 5 hours a day in the gym while Lizzo tests the durability of furniture made from English Oak.

[@thatHARVguy]

*English Oak sweats*

[@vinnyganzano1930]

​@@thatHARVguy And still barely survives that fat ass.

[@sectphiro607]

Lol

[@bazmilo-furball1]

5 hours a day at a dinner table 👍😆😊

[@velenvskaelhas]

You’re a middle aged man calling people fat on a video about Star Wars? What went wrong for you lol

[@rexlumontad5644]

Lizzo should have been casted as one of the Hutts and a female Hutt at that.

[@cecilwindbush6047]

Damn it😅😅😅😂😂😅

[@TJBucketman]

That’s what I was thinking

[@rbu2136]

One of the 8 breasted chubbo dancers. That way there wouldn’t have been any talking.

[@aronbond]

hahahah fucking brilliant!

[@joeyservo]

Slobba the Hutt. Oowee wanna wanga mozzarella stickee

[@MrWorf35]

What they did to Christopher Lloyd in this episode is inexcusable!

[@saraloking5993]

Yeah, what a lame and illogical villain. Surely, there is some better way they could have used him.

[@MrWorf35]

@@saraloking5993 Indeed!

[@rmc_esau]

The look on Bo Katan's face as lizzo was "acting" was peak "oh sweetie..." 😂

[@lindasmith320]

She doesn’t have any other expression mind you

[@brokenfingers9607]

Star Wars: From Sir Alec Guinness to Lizzo.

[@patrickbatman141]

He's rolling in his grave at what is happening without a doubt.

[@Sergeant_Camacho]

And from Peter Cushing, Cristopher Lee...

[@nicholascowling7052]

Have to say, Bill Burr was great in the second season. Hate to admit it, but I loved his character and wanted to see more of him in the future after that. Yes, he was still Bill Burr, but I think he played the character well enough that I could watch it without being pulled out of it.

[@kevinoneil5120]

Dude that one scene in the cafeteria, Burr showed he has serious acting chops for the right scene.

[@zeebooboo9663]

Let's not forget he was a character in Breaking Bad. He's a good actor actually

[@imarxb]

It's when the show peaked!

[@Alakazzam09]

Bill Burr is Bill Burr in every universe at every time.

[@Flistatec]

Bill Burr does not inject HIMSELF (heavily) into a movie, that's the thing. He knows it's his job to act serious when the script or overall tone demands it. Jack Black is a comedy guy 99% of the time. Not only on stage (like Burr) but in movies. You can't unsee Jack Black. I can unsee Bill Burr if he wants me to unsee him.

[@evildoughboy7773]

I still don't understand how a corporation obsessed with making money would spend that much to acquire a definitive golden goose franchise, only to hand it over to incompetence who have no direction in mind and apparently wanted to kill it out of spite. I think only Star Trek has received a comparative level of cultural assassination.

[@nathank2289]

Dr who and Terminator

[@lostalone9320]

Dr Who has, at times, made money but that was never really the point since it is publicly funded. You're spot on with Terminator though. Imagine seeing T2 (which resolves the time travel nonsense and saves humanity with Arnie's big sacrifice) and asking for pitches for the next sequel and the best offer you get is "More time travel, erase Arnie's sacrifice, and humanity can't be saved no matter what".

[@michaelashby9654]

Why assume they are obsessed with money? Power is ultimately all that matters, more then money.

[@milesmclaughlin]

I don't think incompetence is the full answer. I think if you look at Disney's leadership using each of these franchises to produce content to create dissension and division in the public and not profit, you will have to come to the conclusion that they have been entirely successful.

[@DoozFam]

because they are willing to lose money in order to advance the agenda…All for The Cause.

[@dondavenport7077]

Anyone else notice that Lizzo's 'necklace' makes it look like her head is the middle of a Sarlac Pit? Like anything she eats slowly digests over a thousand years?

[@VacuumTube88]

I can't belive that Jon Favreau did not receive any pressure from the company, to "adjust" the mandalorian to the message, his early works on the starwars franchise were good, his later work is flipped completely to straight nonsense. There is such a big gap in the type of work he made that no one can fake such competence in the beginnings and then being so incompetent now.

[@michaeljameskeating1348]

I'll be generous and think that Jon had so much studio interference from KK that he's at the point where he no longer gives a fuck.

[@andrewphillips8341]

Favreau isn't the savior of Star Wars that people think. He is just another hack who is more interested in his own ego.

[@Cyberguy64]

@@andrewphillips8341 Looking at what he did to the Live Action Lion King, it's clear he's not the visionary people think he is.

[@nighthowell]

The Mandalorian was always mid at its best if we're being honest.

[@T1tusCr0w]

@@michaeljameskeating1348 legit this.. I think he has checked out and now he just smiles and nods. Realising that getting any serious work or world building done now is like rolling a dice.

[@SourRobo8364]

It's officially the Womandalorian.

[@jonwwillis]

Yeah, interesting how they made Jack Black Lizzo's little bitch.

[@SquidGunman]

Absolutely! People don’t tune in to watch a beta male.

[@mjjohansson1702]

I've been calling it the ma'amdalorian from the start

[@Boxinaboxwithinanotherbox]

Worst part of this episode is there could have been an interesting arc for that society. Christopher's motivation was because society relied on robots too much hence the sabotage. Instead of taking that into account they exile him and return to a society dependent on machines.

[@RobinDale50]

@Orion This idea came through so strongly in this episode, I thought it had to be intentional. But I bet they thought they were making some kind of "stunning and brave" anti-message with this episode. These people are so completely captured by their ideology their "message" ends up coming out the opposite of their intentions

[@rexlumontad5644]

Nite Owls when Bo-Katan receive Darksaber from Din Djarin without fighting him: "Ah, shit! Here we go again!"

[@jmuench420]

It'd be completely out of character for Din to have fought for the Dark Saber, he nor his sect have shown any interest in it at all. If they're going to unite Madalorians and retake Mandalore then Din, an outsider extremist, would not be the guy for the job.

[@Radius284]

I think the Lizzo/Black cameo could have worked if they were both Hutts holding court and eating space frogs out of a tank filled with amniotic-like fluid. That would have been TV gold.

[@mosesdouglas4325]

Best comment online today!

[@thejagman22]

Body-positive Hutts.

[@sterlingarcher74]

The whole episode didn’t feel like Star Wars- I just kept thinking back on the trailer for season one showing Stormtroopers heads on pikes and a grizzled, gnarly underworld of Star Wars. This episode reminded me of Canto Bite.

[@InfernosReaper]

It'd be interesting see Hutts who actually spoke Galactic Basic or whatever that setting's "Common" is called

[@moonknight4053]

Jack black is a legend, but from what I’ve heard he fucked up in this role

[@robbhays8077]

My theory: Cara Dune was supposed to be more integral to the S3 story. So when Gina Carano got canned for absolutely nothing, they had to hastily rewrite not only S3 but also Book of Boba Fett and the only thing they could think to do was bring back Grogu.

[@lukew6725]

Nah, they want Grogu because they know that cute baby is the only thing people care about in this show!

[@kaasmeester5903]

@@iamtherealrauschguy The main story arc of S3 has plenty of opportunities for some great Star Wars. The problem isn't that it got stretched too thin, the problem is that their writers are shit. Grogu got pushed back in but he's less than filler at this point. They could actually do what they did with Rogue One and Andor except in reverse order: have the series establish the main characters and the story line, and instead of a lackluster S4, have a movie where they lead up to retaking Mandalor.

[@TheyWantMeGone69]

Also the episode with the Doctor looked like it was supposed to from Rangers of the New Republic which was going to be Gina Carano's spin off show. Cancelled.

[@marychocolatefairy]

I always assumed that Carano's firing delayed Mando s3 and led to part of s3 being put in Boba Fett. And yeah it's possible she was also going to be in Boba and they had to find something else to replace her last minute. That'd help explain why the Boba series was such a mess.

[@speedfreakspeedshop9935]

@@kaasmeester5903 this is a highly under appreciated take lol. The bones are there, the writers/showrunners just suck lol

[@frenchyroastify]

The opening with the Calimari and Juliet was a complete WTF moment. The soundtrack of the show is the tie fighter sound of it losing altitude and crashing in a ravine.

[@connorbingel7134]

That was nasty. Like I don’t understand why that scene was there

[@spacecowboy1438]

Calimario and Squidiet

[@doopdoopdopdop7424]

Filoni is the stereotype of a fan inserting their OCs the minute they get any power over a franchise.

[@firstlast9846]

Tbf Star Wars needs more original characters.. instead of spinning off old characters and ruining them.. but these type of original characters are trash ngl.

[@doopdoopdopdop7424]

Bo Katan and Ahsoka were interesting in Clone Wars but Ahsoka I feel didn’t have anything to do do post clone wars and should’ve kicked it off screen or maybe been a new teacher at Luke’s *after* the war. As for Bo Katan this series fails to acknowledge her part in the rise of Death Watch and her attempt to usurp the thrown of her sister, as well as that ridiculous helmet rule. If Pre Viszla could freely remove his helm I see no reason why his followers made up this rule about being seen helmet-less.

[@jkleylein]

I thought Filoni was better than this, but apparently he just wants to wallow in the Hollywood quagmire with all the rest of the swamp monsters.

[@ArwensHubby]

Is it Filoni's Fault or pressure from above?

[@evedael]

@@doopdoopdopdop7424 Disney shot themselves in the foot with the sequel trilogy, They want their representation and strong female characters but don't put in the work. Ashoka was an actual character that was properly developed during the clone wars but the big problem is All roads lead down one path. Luke dying and the Jedi order being destroyed and mary sue ray being one of the last jedi in the galaxy and the new grand master of the order. Any character that is related to Lukes Jedi order has to die and Disney can't afford to kill them off as Grogu is the only thing thats actually profitable from star wars. As for Bo Katan, anyone who watches The clone wars will instantly dislike her for her part in the death of Satine and her indirect assistance in helping Palpatine. During the last 3 seasons, She has made no effort to change or redeem herself nor as the show shown anything either. In fact its done the opposite, she gets everything handed to her with no real struggle or effort put in, meanwhile Grogu who should have been training with luke is back and mando is getting dumber and feels less skilled with each epsode. Outside of the clone wars, the old republic and some of the games, i have absolutely no interest in star wars and i don't really care if the franchise dies but man it has to be embarrassing for disney when star wars, the greatest franchise in "nerd culture" has been relegated to a tv show on a streaming service.

[@AustinKloud]

I’m happy for Jabba’s daughter -brave and strong.

[@Nihtgenge]

My first reaction when hearing about this rubbish was literally “… well, does she play a Hutt? Lizzo the Hutt?”

[@jessejames8900]

Lizzo the hutt.

[@TheLoos3Goos33]

With every new piece of Star Wars, I get more amazed that Andor was actually good.

[@markroberts928]

Right? I have thought the exact thing. I debated streaming it and finally bit the bullet...and it was good. How can that happen while everything else turns to shite with the tragic kingdom? It was like that one moment of clarity for a dementia patient who then reverts to hallucinations and jibbering ten seconds later.

[@TheGamefreak612]

@@markroberts928 its because the writer was not a super fan of Star Wars and came at the show with actually solid writing that one, didn't treat their audience like they were five and had to distract them with a shiny laser sword every five secs. And 2, kept easter eggs to a minimum and when they were there didn't hold on it like "See Star Wars reference". The current issue with Star Wars is they won't allow the galaxy to actually feel like a galaxy. It feels like a gated community where everyone knows everyone.

[@winstonsmith8482]

it wasn't.

[@markroberts928]

@@TheGamefreak612 Exactly. Its a status hire or an ideologue who gets these gigs most of the time these days, and thats a tragedy with the wealth of void space on these characters' backstory. So much can be done and done well without CONSTANTLY beating the clearly deceased Star Wars horse.

[@Aikurisu]

If anything, Andor only made everything else look WORSE. Granted it's the first and perhaps last time we actually get something that wasn't created by brainlets.

[@humdinger5701]

I feared for Grogu the entire episode. I was sure Lizzo was just trying to fatten him up so she could eat him.

[@dilboo]

When are we going to talk about how horrible of a father Din is lmao. Taking him on dogfights, leaving him with literally anybody who asks. Moments like that pull me out sometimes lol.

[@Soundwave32791]

Shhhhhhh, don't give Deviantart any ideas.

[@KuldesacMedia]

Let’s hope they don’t corrupt Andor S2. That show really captured the right level if grit, intrigue, and inspiring heroism that made Star Wars memorable to begin with.

[@TheOtherKine]

I couldn't get past the first 10 minutes, I don't know how you watch the whole season LOL it still shows up on my Disney+ thing on the "continue watching" list stuck at the first 10 minutes ROFL

[@harrambou9468]

@@TheOtherKine I recommend you give it more time. It is QUITE SLOW at first, but it’s not actually a bad story.

[@shadow_realm47]

@@TheOtherKine don't listen to him he wants you to be miserable with him since he wasted his time 👀 he wants all of us to waste our time.

[@TheOtherKine]

@@shadow_realm47 That's what I thought lol

[@flyingrancidm00nfish7]

I remember seeing Attack of the Clones for the first time, I know it has bad moments but when we saw Jango in his armour with the iconic T helmet we immediately thought this guy is dangerous, and the few times we saw him he was trouble and meant business. Jango was a good character albeit killed off too early in my opinion. Mando in season 1 had a similar intimidating presence but now Mandaloriens just don't feel intimidating anymore.

[@irena4545]

Not to mention that they feel terribly incompetent. How many times do you have to be attacked by a flying monster to figure out that you need a watch to keep an eye out for it? How many times do you need to be pinned down by fire from an elevated position to figure out that you can use those bloody jetpacks to have cover from the roofs?

[@sivad1025]

Are we forgetting that they all got killed off by incompetent Stormtroopers in S1E3?

[@flyingrancidm00nfish7]

@@irena4545 Agreed, Jango was cunning, gritty and ruthless, the mandalorians now seem aloof, clumsy and almost childish now

[@ankou949]

​@@irena4545 they are as useless as stormtroopers at this point

[@seanburke997]

@@irena4545 I really dislike it when writers decide "our characters need to be really stupid and incompetent so we can move this plot point forward". It's lazy AF and destroys any suspension of disbelief.

[@Pepespizzeria1]

Getting a singer into a movie is like getting an electrician in to fix the plumbing, just two completely different trades

[@Ted_Sheckler]

Analogies are not your strong suit.

[@Pepespizzeria1]

@@Ted_Sheckler at least i don't condone cuties like you do

[@incipidsigninsetup]

Some people have the talent to do two things. Lizzo is a bad actress, and the show didn't seem to care because they called her for the role.

[@Ted_Sheckler]

@@Pepespizzeria1 witty replies are also not your strong suit

[@Pepespizzeria1]

@@Ted_Sheckler not trying to be witty, I just saw your video on cuties, I just don't know how you could say how great it was, bit weird, did you not think it was a bit exploitative?

[@HENRYGCOLLINS]

I have two young sons who really like Mando. But they've been unsure about this season. Also showed them the new Star Wars trailer and they asked why it's just women? They also have zero interest in Rey's new films. The eldest said what's the point as no one can beat Rey, she has all the top powers which is silly because Luke should be the most powerful. Disney is also going to lose a young audience. It's such a shame.

[@Desolaytore]

Cant believe they got Lizzo... of all people to be a guest on the show.

[@wishuponamonkeyspaw2458]

I know, right? It took some real harpoons to pull it off.

[@jeromeisaacs4428]

Marvel get Megan thee Stallion at least She is attractive Star Wars get Lizzo the half Tonne woman wtf

[@breakupgoogle]

I feel like that was a csuite exec made a promise to someone

[@bujharvard9313]

Oh it could be so, SO much worse.

[@silversobe]

Shows where their head is at... Up their own ass!

[@ethanpoints8735]

Disney is like the ex that keeps trying to give you gifts, but they can't understand that you have changed and the gifts are all things that they thought you liked but really you were just satiating them because they were so high maintenance and controlling and never really found out what you really wanted during the entire relationship. Thus the breakup. you still listen for a bit because you are a nice person, but you take the gifts and don't like or use them, then you take them and throw them in the trash and focus on what you like, lastly you just ghost and ignore them all together because they will never get the hint.

[@MollyHJohns]

Except that you're the one paying for all those gifts from the start

[@wanabisufi8843]

The story should have made the reunion of Grogu and Mando much more difficult, and the issue with the Dark Saber should not have been so easily resolved.

[@sphelps31]

Bringing Grogu back was kind of terrible I think, so far this season he's been handed around like a joint. He should have stayed with Luke and pondered his future for longer than an episode. Plus to waste that reunion on Book of Boring Fett instead of the main show with Mando. They could have made an entire episode of him leaving like Luke did in ESB because his friends were in trouble. Like Poetry, it rhymes.

[@hsrgrl270]

oh yes the dark saber, "super easy, barely an inconvenience" haha

[@mau4604]

The dark saber conflict already got resolved? Damn, what else is there to look forward to at this point? I was gonna resub to D+ purely for this season but I think I’ll just read comments and save some money.

[@wanabisufi8843]

@@mau4604 yeah, instead of using it to examine mandalorian culture and increase the conflict, they hand waived it away. Same with Grogu reuniting with Mando, it was way too easy, way to quick. It's like these writers are allergic to tension.

[@trueromani7262]

Tbh why is grogu even back? Just move on from there and go exploring. How is that the biggest selling point of the show?mando was still torching people while holding grogu.

[@Durzo1259]

My main gripe with The Mandalorian season 3 is that they've turned it into a kid's show. I'm still somewhat enjoying it just enough to keep watching, but what a quality plummet from seasons 1 & 2.

[@markv1274]

Your comment is quite peculiar. The whole 'Star Wars' universe *started* as a children's show. That's why George Lucas took a pay cut in exchange for money from merchandising, merchandise that was made *for children!* Lucas knew exactly what type of movies he was making. Now because the kids have grown up, but haven't *grown out* of the 'Star Wars' saga, and are griping about a supposedly "childish" show, says it all. It's a serious detachment from reality. If you still like watching 'Star Wars' stuff, fine, but don't expect anything other than a children's story.

[@Durzo1259]

​@@markv1274 The Mandalorian might be based somewhat on a kids show (kids but also all ages), but the Mandalorian itself was more mature and that's why we loved it. I don't see why anything SW has to be a kid's show just because the original source material was more kid orientated. SW had a wonderful blend of kid-friendly and also adult entertainment so future projects could choose which elements to focus on more.

[@Alondro77]

The female Jabba the Hut cameo was stunning and brave.

[@mikaelafox6106]

I was so excited when Grogu went away with Luke. I loved the first episode when we got to see Din doing the bounty hunter thing on his own, and I wanted to see more of that. I feel like I’m one of the few people that doesn’t like Grogu. For me, I think he’s one of the most annoying characters I’ve seen since Jar Jar. I laughed when he jumped from Din to Lizzo. Every time Grogu “jumps” he looks like what he probably is - a prop puppet being tossed around on set. Anyway, I was hoping to see less Grogu, more bounty hunting. Then again, I would’ve loved to have seen the resurrection of Din’s Razor Crest. I miss that ship. 😭 It deserved better.

[@sarkastodon30]

So agree. The bounty hunting, Quille, Cara Dune badass villain Moff Gideon and the razor crest. That's what made it. Bo Katan is not a Cara Dune replacement, at least she was humble. The Naboo fighter is not the Razor Crest. It was a practical but powerful ship.

[@Simon-xc5oy]

I cant stand the little green git either. I was never that keen on him from the off. But three seasons later he is just getting to Jar Jar level. There is no character development for him. He needs to learn to speak. All he does in every episode is look cute. Or gurgle. Or get in trouble and need rescuing. Or do a cute baby thing like stealing a shiny control knob to keep. Or lastly pull off some force trick or stunt to save himself or someone else. And that is all he does. That is what you get every episode, nothing changes.

[@baddadjokes9330]

Grogu was good for what he was originally intended. But the merchants at Disney got in the way and tried for a cash grab.

[@christianellegaard7120]

No, you are definitely not the only one. Baby Yoda was a good MacGuffin for the start of the show. But, after he had served his purpose, he should have stayed with Luke.

[@michaeljdauben]

I always got the impression that Disney was caught by surprise at the huge reaction to "baby Yoda" in the TV series did not originally plan for him to become a permanent part of the cast. I'll admit I liked the character when he was introduced in S1, but for me, he's outlasted his welcome. At this point, though, disney has firmly cemented him as the co-star of the series and I'm not sure how they could get rid of him now. 😕

[@ninjapirate47]

Brad Pitt's cameo on deadpool 2 is how it should be done.

[@Enigma75614]

I love that cameo. 😂

[@barbarastaton6158]

The fact that disney still hasn't come up with a more mature response to criticism than insult and lies,as well as the garbage they continue to release,I don't see how anything has actually improved .

[@Arcjaw]

I love watching the franchise I obsessed over as a kid go up in flames. Great job Kathleen 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@packedphatrat]

It wasnt just kathleen

[@eyespy3001]

Well, take that as the lesson that it is- don’t obsess over things. They’re just _things._ Obsession implies wanting to own something that you know you can never truly own, so just let it go.

[@Arcjaw]

@@eyespy3001 Ok maybe "obsessed" was an exaggeration. Granted I haven't had an interest is anything new from Star Wars since 2019

[@thedarknate08]

Unfortunately Nothing last forever!

[@Arcjaw]

@@thedarknate08 Ain't that the depressing truth

[@OHJLM]

Checked out of this whole big D debacle back in 2017 the night I was sitting in the theater behind a young family. 'That Scene' when Lea brings herself back into the ship because surprise, she knows the force. The daughter, maybe eight or nine, whispered to her dad, 'That's not Star Wars.' - This was the moment I accepted the franchise had been lost.

[@alexfriedman918]

Next time he is in his spaceship, Pedro should let go of the controls, look into the camera, and sternly say “Don’t forget whose show this is!”

[@lostalone9320]

Let Jesus take the wheel.

[@CornyBum]

Then he should pull his pants down in hyperspace and start furiously masturbating while yelling at us, *"WHO DA MANDO?! **_I'M_** DA MANDO!"*

[@napoearth]

Pedro is on the side of this nonsense.

[@MumboJumboZXC]

Not his because he’s leaving

[@alexfriedman918]

@@napoearth I know - I severely dislike him, and I actually like the actress who plays Bo-Katan quite a bit (from BSG). It’s just that the pattern of sidelining titular male characters in favor of their supposedly superior female counterparts has gotten very very old!

[@williamj.dovejr.8613]

Nothing will top Luke's appearance...

[@jasonthemagnificent2.0]

The Mandalorian saved Star Wars they said...

[@joeylummox7330]

It had potential to. That is, until they ruined everything.

[@whenpigsfly8178]

He was the Chosen One! Lol..

[@jonwwillis]

And then the Mandalorian jumped the shark.

[@redbird1928]

The true killer of any show is indifference.

[@zetastreaker47]

“Lizzo punching above her weight.” I didn’t know there was something heavier than her.

[@kalui96]

I'm not entirely sure if she is capable of throwing a good punch upwards

[@StanHowse]

"I think the food is what blew her up." 🤣🤣 Underrated comment.

[@knaudi86]

I've loved Mando but this episode was crushing to watch as deep down I knew I watching the death of the series play out in front of me.

[@Parasmunt]

You should be used to it by now. It is actually the norm and has been for a number of years.

[@juicewilliss]

​@@Parasmunt facts

[@timwideman8824]

When I heard Lizzo was going to be in that, I supposed Jabba the Hut would be getting an origin story.

[@CornyBum]

Wow, they missed the opportunity to retcon Jabba as a trans, could've been stunning and brave, I would've spun my Baby Yoda blanket overhead and yelled, "YAAAASS KIIIING!"

[@gmansgnarlyscienceshow2820]

Love seeing Tyrone as part of the group!

[@darrylmars]

Either a writer or a producer said " Let's do what She Hulk did." Disney is the kiss of death

[@justinellison1215]

Star Wars is dead…There once was a young boy whose father took him to see Revenge of the Sith in theaters cementing his love for Star Wars. There was a time where this young man would have epic lightsaber duels with the homeschool kids he grew up with down the street in a little town in Texas. This young boy is now a young man who has a daughter of his own. Sadly this young man has watched his beloved franchise be destroyed by identity politics and the dreaded SJWs. He will show his daughter (the good) Star Wars one day and hope she likes it or at least humors him. If she decides to watch the bad Star Wars content so be it, but if she likes it and more importantly says it’s good…then he will have to strike her down…

[@zeebooboo9663]

Strike her down? Tf

[@LimitedCheetah]

In 15-20 years there will be people saying 'I remember seeing the rise of skywalker, that's the good star wars'.

[@DeltaVTX]

@@zeebooboo9663 yes. If she declares an affinity for the wrong media, she will be cut asunder by a retro future knight with a laser sword. Literal murder.

[@varsityreviews707]

@@LimitedCheetah People have been saying that about the prequels, still have no idea why.

[@michealrosen]

Star wars was dying by then once episode one was released, that was the downfall of Star wars, it's been slowly dying since then.

[@ascended1924]

How tf is Disney not able to make one good thing?

[@charlesjmouse]

Not enough monkeys.

[@ZenShroud1]

Andor was about it for them, I think. Unless you think Ahsoka will be good.

[@mrman3099]

The episode with Lizzo and Jack Black felt like a marvel movie with the way all the scenes were like it was insanely bizarre (on top of the mid tier acting from the cameos part)

[@dilboo]

Mid tier? Very generous I'm pretty sure Lizzo was reading from cue cards, or for some reason the director kept having her look at the same exact spot just above the camera in every shot. And, ofc, Jack Black is a fuckin cartoon character. All around very stupid cameos.

[@notanactualuser]

The scene with Stephen Hawking in TNG was great, because a) he loved the show b) the scene fit into the episode without issue c) there was no wink wink mentality to it. If I showed my gf that episode I don't know if she'd even realise right away that it was actually him, I don't think I did the first time seeing it as a boy and then realised later on.

[@eyespy3001]

That and there wasn’t an entire cottage industry of grifter nerds around yet to tell you that it was bad.

[@bluemutt9964]

@@eyespy3001 Star Trek nerds are, being completely honest, more mature than Star Wars nerds. That scene would be just as fine today as it was 30 years ago. Even then Star Trek had singers in it, except they were random aliens in the background or actual character and not meet and greet NPCs